REF stoppage in 11th min 15G Impact vs FCU
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2016
- Ref stops match early to speak with coaches regarding parent behavior. The FCU coach and the FCU parents were particularly chirpy during this match. FCUSA Impact parents were well behaved from my perspective. I don't think I heard Lower even once!
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The worst part of youth sports, the parents.
its why I quit coaching
100%
Absolutely, everywhere - and the vast majority don't even know/understand the Laws of the Game.
Well done ref. Take no shit!
That was a very easy way to include the coaches and that was there warning, Parents are the worst when it comes to yelling at kids and refs, anyone who doesnt like it can go get certified and start working games. You will have a whole new out look.
on [rare] occasion when a heckler persists, i do drop da 'u r free 2 take ref trg. anytime' line :-)
When the parents got pretty vocal on ragging me, used to give them a card for the Referee Trainer to join us. I don't think any of them ever went.
for damn sure they will change.
You are there to referee a soccer game. Be professional and do your job. If you get your feelings hurt that bad then take your fat ass somewhere else. He acted like he is god. Now coaches!! Who in the flying fuck do you think you are? Ref a game and that’s it.
@UCVB1IGJX3NM_yaMPBP6yb1w you can fuck right off with that bad take. It's a youth game. Shut your mouth and cheer your kid on. Based on the ref shortages nationwide my point is the correct one.
What I recommend for any soccer parent out there is to talk to their kids, 1 on 1, asking for an honest description of how they perceive the parents during a match. I went through this with my son and it was VERY humbling. If you think those kids even think one bit that your "cheering" is helpful in ANY regard you're far off. Most kids would actually prefer no parents at all or at least just as quiet spectators (think Tennis, when the quiet signal goes on). Most parents are totally projecting some kind of "this needs some football stadium atmosphere" bullshit into a kids game that couldn't be further from it.
Having reffed I can usually ignore the comments from players, coaches and parents but at the end of the day I’m a person and going through a verbal assault every game makes it hard to have fun doing what I enjoy. People forget referees have feelings too and are not perfect. No one comes into your job and rips into you whenever you do something they disagree with. Respect the refs, there’s a reason why more and more are quitting.
@Thack seriously! There are people at my job that can’t even use excel properly or write a coherent paragraph and that stuff is infinitely easier than reffing a fast paced game where so many things can be one way or the other. I stopped being a ref partly due to players/adults making it not fun, I would rather enjoy other things where I’m not called a garbage, no good, simpleton by some fat mom who hasn’t ran in decades. I had one parent approach me to insinuate because I was black I couldn’t understand the game and would favor minority players. And this was before the game even started! Not to mention I was 20 at the time and excited to ref games outside of college intramurals. Some of these people are seriously unhinged and of course if you talk back they’ll file a complaint to the league so you have to just take it.
I have both ref’d and coached and I hate when referees make it about themselves. So someone yells at you. Deal with it because this isn’t about you...it’s about those kids. Quit being a whiny baby and just deal with it.
@@joelgreen9807 same applies to those ppl yelling at refs right? tell them to stop being a whiny baby and deal with decisions that go against you.
Referees must ignore fans, if you get inpacted by the fans then you are not suited to be a ref - Referees must be able to get on with the game no matter what the fans say - i've been a ref since i was 15 in floorball not football tho, ive had anything from low league to the highest league in Denmark, and fans are not made to be nice and overall it makes the game a lot more fun when the fans are active and not just sat in silence - Ofcourse i have been called shit, blind, told to do this and that, been getting "advice" from heatet fans, but you and i knew this was and is a part of being a ref - I have only ever stopped one game because of a fan running on the pitch trying to hit my ref partner, never for some idiot yelling at me, that is absurd to do, why ruin the game for the players because of some dumb fan, grow a pair you softie. (Meant for BrooklynRex - I'm just 3 years late)
For the players and coaches tho; yellow and red is your friend, just use them - Maybe talk to the players, express you are not happy with the tone on the pitch and tell them to calm down the team if you don't communicate then you are the problem.
Yes it is hard to be a referee, i have had playoff finals (Floorball not football) - alot of tough decisions to make, game goes fast and you can expect the ref to not see everything, we are not robots - at the end of the day, im a person too but i dont take my job home and certenly do not feel offended after a games with yelling fans, i focus on what i know i did wrong and what i know i did right everthing else does not matter at all after the game, we make mistakes but being a good ref is owning your mistakes not getting mad at fans for disagreeing with your calls..
This works for me all the time;
I make a call > Fans acting up > Makes the player act up > Then i make it clear to the player what he did wrong > Then i go away(Very simple right? Don't even give them a chance to complain otherwise you are just looking for confrontation with players.)
Option 1 - Player follows to continue to act up = Yellow
Option 2 - Player continue to act up but stays or runs away = Just forget about him, he is mad at himself at the end of the day
Option 3 - You have done a good enough job to convince the player and fans that you know what you are doing, but i can tell you lack confidence so you probably seemed insecure and confused
@@joelgreen9807 lol or parents and coaches can stop acting like jackasses treating their kids games like its pro sports. It's about the kids right? No refs means no games for little Timmy. Parents need to stfu.
As a retired player I was a hot head a lot of the time but when my son played I told him you will not disrespect the refs argue or mouth off as bad calls happen all the time there human and we all make mistakes that being said I think today's refs put up with more than they should I'd never let my kid be a ref in today's soccer parents are just plain rude some coaches are as well but nowadays people care more about winning then treating the game with the respect it deserves
Thank you for your service.
There is a referee shortage across the Nation. Just saying....
Yes, because they don't want to deal with the parents.
I'd say we would be better off without the refs. Let the kids and coaches call it. Probably teach the kids more that way about sportsmanship.
@@yardsale781, so you’re one of those loud mouth buffoons 😂
Finally a ref with balls!
Most of these comments reflect the fact that they are missing the point of what's going on. The players listen to their parents comments during the match; the coaches are oftentimes way over on the other end of the field. The constant barrage of criticism from their parents, over the course of a match, riles up the players. The parents undermine the authority of the referee crew by saying things like "Call it both ways", "You're terrible, horrible", "Ref you don't know what you're doing", "Ref control the game!". The players will start acting on it if they hear it on going and unchecked. If the garbage from the parents is bad enough and comes often enough, the players will start fouling harder and harder. That is how games get "out of control". If the ref doesn't get the parents to keep quiet, kids end up getting hurt.
And before you start in on the referee keeping up with the U15s and U16s, the older refs are out there in the first place because the younger refs don't put up with the crap from the parents and quit; the older refs are all that's left. It's nothing for a 60+ year old ref to have to work 3 or 4 games on a Saturday or Sunday because of the shortage; if they don't work, your kids don't play. Full disclosure - I have played at every level of the game short of getting paid for it, and have been a USSF licensed Coach (since 2003) and Referee (since 1976).
Exactly. Often times, it isn't so much the flak coming from the coaches and parents, it's the fact that the players follow their lead, and the next thing you know the players are chirping endlessly, too.
And yes, you're exactly right on your other point as well. The reason you've got these older refs doing U15 and U16 games is because a lot of leagues often have very few younger refs because they got fed up with all the BS of deal with the Sideline Karens and Kens.
Frankly, I don't know why these leather-lunged idiots are carrying on like that. I doubt very much if there were any players headed for the National Team, or even a scholarship to a D-1 school. There were no budding young Alex Morgans out there on that field.
Robert, you nailed it. I don't think parents and some coaches understand how much damage they are doing to the sport (what ever it may be) and even their children.
In Europe it don't work like this.
The refs just go about their business whatever the fans are yelling.
You ignore them and you go on with the game.
Simple as that...
@@sachsgs2509 So, how many riots have happened over a soccer game in Europe? People killed? Etc.?
I was the AR on a tournament semi final for U12 Girls. The parents on the visiting team started up on the very first foul the second the Center blew the whistle. He stopped, walked over to the seats and told them to zip it or they leave. It was the first call of the game! The parents were acting like it was an entire afternoon of bad calls. Overreacting and ignorant parents are a scourge.
yes, those people are GARBAGE
This is the reason referees are in short supply i am behind the ref 100% i have removed lots of parents for doing the same
All these videos on CZcams, there has been a shortage of referees for the past 3-4 years. It’s no surprise, it does not look to slow down.
Yep, same here in the Netherlands.
Here in Ireland too, referees are getting attacked by spectators after games but the thing about that is that is its actually not in football but in our gaa games eg hurling and gaelic football which are supposed to be shining lights in irish sports but in actual fact they sometimes put sports here in Ireland to shame with how they act at gaa games and they call football aka soccer a thugs game and is really frowned upon here in Ireland, they should really have a look at their own sports and the fans of them before they go criticising football
@@popke62yep
I like that ref, it is very annoying as the player not even the ref, but when a parent is saying bad things about something it gets frustrating. Good for him
Good call, ref - except the guy he spoke to didn't exactly go out of his way to get the message across !
I thought the exact same thing. They probably couldn’t even hear what he said across the field
Good thing. He seems to be the only one caring about putting a good example for these children. Many parents should be a shamed of themselves nowadays for how they raise their children. What kind of morals they teach them.
The worst part is when parents have no clue how the rules of soccer go.
one of the reasons that we put the team and the parents together, with teams on opposite sides of the field. it's obvious who the culprits are and easy to chastise/warning and then ask to leave if warranted.
Love how confused they look, yet everywhere they gelanceerd they are being told that this is their responsibility....because it is
I was a ref...was. Stopped for this reason. The strange thing is children are ok with your calls.
Well done Ref. Never take crap.
And if this had been on a public pitch ?
It was a good call, ref noticed an issue and called it. Then when people argued he found a way to try resolve the issue
Respect to the ref.😊
I thought there were only douchenozzles in Little League seesm to be the same way in Scoccer.
I’ve been involved in football (oh for you guys “soccer”) for over 30 years as Administrator, player, coach & referee. Here in Australia we have rules for Home clubs that they must supply a “Ground Officials (or Marshall)” at all games. They are responsible for crowd control / safety. If a referee feels like themselves or any player or officials safety is at risk they can stop the game & call on the ground officials to deal with the parents or supporters who are causing trouble & can move them from the ground.
Not going to lie… I was watching expecting a shocking tackle that produced a force of 15G
Good coaches - don’t need to yell at the ref. Bad coaches try to mask their inadequacies by directing their poor team prep at the ref. Red coach - is an example of that.
People's comments on here are ridiculous. "Thick skin?" Since when is it ok to treat people like trash? USSF recruits referees at age 13. The things I've heard people say to 13, 14. 15 y/o refs are just nuts. Would you tolerate anyone talking to you like this outside a game? What about your kid? You "thick skin" types apparently lack the wherewithal to stand up for yourself. You are number 3 on the list of problems, right after (1) parents & (2) coaches.
Yo man, take it easy. Just grow some thicker skin
And nobody says a word about kids playing with glasses?
Insane!
"Way to go ref and call it both ways" both classic remarks made by sideline officials
this ref is spot on
Ima current referee and I am surprised as he yelled at coach in the beginning and talk the way he talked to both coaches
Absolutely.
You don't yell at coaches players parents.
You have a whistle and authority of the game.
You handle everything with composure good language and be calm to everything you say.
Yelling and saying to "shut up" it's not professional and it makes you look bad.
Having said that the parents are the worst enemy of their own kids in youth sports as i take it this is probably in USA.
Is this on school property or on a public pitch ?
This was on a private school field in southeastern Massachusetts that a local regional club was renting for its weekend home matches
@@dmb_13k Thank you :) always wondered how american soccer refs could card a spectator :) that doesnt happen in europe.
@@dmb_13k . thanks mike. i had to ask , as in europe , the vast majority of games are played on public pitches. any school games would be played within the school grounds, during school hours , and parents would not be there. possibly because they are not allowed ' in ' to the school grounds , but probably because the game would be played as a normal class, if that makes sense? after lunch , history, geography and football :) so parents wouldnt turn up until after the game is over. so to even see parents at a school game is a bit weird for me. if the game was played on a public pitch ( usually on a sunday morning ) the ref couldnt do anything if spectators were shouting , unless it was threats. thanks for replying though mike :)
Well done ref. 👍
My procedures: Ask, Tell, Dismiss. Or just dismiss. No need to get coaches involved. Just boot the parent(s). If they refuse to leave, stop the game. If they continue, they forfeit the game 3-0 to the opposing team. Done. Worst case, call 911 and have them trespassed. ZERO TOLERANCE.
Is this on school property or on a public pitch ?
in my asoc. the rule is coach needs 2 b informed of misbehavin spectators. coach is 2 pass along warnin that their team culd suffer consequences. if bad behavior persists, ref can then eject spectators. team can b sanctioned if spectators refuse 2 leave. i last ejected a spectator mebbe 9 yrs. ago. i do hav 2 giv warnings a few times each yr. [!]
@@richard6440 Public park, youth sports, booted a parent last night for yelling "bullshit" at a call. They have to leave the viewing area...i.e. if I can see them, they need to keep moving. Again, if it is tolerated, people will persist.
@@navkc135r Public park, youth sports, booted a parent last night for yelling "bullshit" at a call... public park in america? how can someone be booted from a ' public ' park ? its public. or am i missing something?
@@richard6440 You must be...because it is quite common. The fields are owned by the city and rented by the leagues. There is zero tolerance for this type of behavior and you can be trespassed if you don't obey the official.
Fair play ref
As a referee I never asked the coaches to deal with the parents. If the parents are a problem for the referee they're more than likely a problem for the coach as well. My method was to deal with them direct. The first time I asked them nicely to stop. The second time I warned them it wouldn't be tolerated. The third time they're gone. 99% of the time the warning works. Twelve minutes into the match is fairly early for the warning but I once told a coach fairly early in the game that I had already done 4 games that day so I was tired and lacking patience. It would be in his best interest to not be a problem for me today. It worked.
It depends on what your association rules are. Per LOTG, the referee has no direct control over spectators (parents). In Michigan, we are instructed as referees to go through the coaches and have them deal with their parents. If that does not resolve it, the coaches can be removed and/or the game called. This referee's approach is quite consistent with what would be instructed for Michigan referees.
I had a U9 girls match that was vigorously contested and well played by the participants. The parents were out of the control (must have been a full moon). Anyway, I had heard enough - blew my whistle with 'extra force', put my foot on the ball and yelled, "Parents, you can enjoy the game by cheering your team on. However, I will not condone bad behavior and poor sportsmanship directed at these young ladies on upon me. You have a choice, enjoy the game hear or all of you will be dismissed to the far parking lot until the game is concluded." You could have heard a pin drop. I heard one parent ask another, "Can he do that?" The response was, yes he can.
After the match several parents apologized for their behavior and all was well.
I worked in Missouri. We were taught that from the moment we arrived at the field to the moment we left, the center referee was in charge of every aspect of it. I once saw a referee at a high school game instruct the visiting coach to move the team bus away from the gate.
Ozark Ed I agree with I am
A college soccer coach I played soccer for 24 years n I was a reference for about 4 years
In the leage I ref’d (Maryland) you were instructed to NEVER confront a parent. You are supposed to go to the Coach of the team and have them settle the parents down. In my book the Ref did the right thing. All in all tho, parents really suck when it comes to their behavior at sporting events.
Call it both ways ten mins in give the guy time to make a call
It starts with the red Coach ragging on the ref. Probably reds parents yelling at ref too, that’s why he didn’t want to get up to approach ref or tell his teams parents to knock it off. Attitude reflects leadership coach.
Well you can tell the guy never played...
Watch a rugby union game, it's very polite
Pretty sure they were saying "come on Reds"! Simply referring to the team.
Maybe...
I would have done the same thing. These players are young girls. The last thing they need is to hear parents swearing & making derogatory remarks about the Ref or other players. Refs volunteer their time for very little $$$ or nothing at all so your children can play sports. They shouldn’t have to take verbal abuse & the coach should take complete responsibility for parents of players who’s parents need a lesson in sportsmanship & acceptable behavior not to mention appreciation for the people who work so your child can play a sport.
A diplomat he is not. A bit of savoir-faire may have been in order. We don't know how many games the ref had already doine that day and what the parents and spectators were saying. Still a bit more of a pleasant conversation enlisting the coaches assistance and cooperation may have been a better way to handle parent hostility....I dont want to 2nd guess this ref, since I wasn't there and do not know what was said by the spectators and parents to or about the referee, or how loud it was said.
The fact he said “we aren’t even ten minutes into the game.” Tells me the parents were way over the top.
Why do these crazy parents do this in soccer? You never hear it in baseball or softball.
Full disclosure: I was the guy taking this video. I think the answer to your question is that in baseball and softball there is very little and infrequent player-to-player contact, which is what riles the player parents. Also, in baseball and softball, most of the spectator player parents are either asleep or looking at their phones during play.
And people wonder why refs are giving up in large numbers. Some years ago, a player made a threat to cut my throat and then followed me home after the match. All because I sent him off after grabbing an opposition player around the neck and threatening to kill him. I had to keep driving for nearly an hour until he gave up. Not even the cops would help me. I still ref, but it's always in the back of my mind.
Cheering what they just did- that’s a parent
Telling them what to do- even dribble, pass,- that’s what coach does and makes you an ass
Its easy to criticize
how have americans got 3 officals in uniform for a girls children's game?
in the uk, you could be getting paid £100 a game and still have someones dad running the line.
Yes sir. Depending on the skill level and age of the player as well as stage of the game (tournament championship game or is it a youth rec game). And officials for U12 make $35 a game, U19 make $45-65.
And your officals aren't even drunk!
@@michaelt8682 Well.... I wouldn't go that far. :)
@@coach714 u mus b in a hi rent area. i do u9, u12, & u15 ... u12 & up usually a 2 person crew ... & our rate on a u15 is less than wot yer u12 folks get :-)
@@rvog6584 Yikes! You deserve better, especially with the dramatic parents on those sidelines. And we're in the south so not much high income area. Good luck out there!
No wonder there is a referee shortage in all youth sports, its not worth the risk and the abuse from the parents,
There are cases of parents actually physically assaulting refs.
I wouldn't be a ref in a youth league for any amount of money.
Cringe. I've reffed for over 10 years, never needed to do something like this. Best to just ignore. Being angry only amplifies it.
count yer blessins. as ive noted, i hav 2 giv warnin a few times each yr. as the match is bein significantly disrupted. havent had 2 actually eject in many yrs.
Referees and officials have too much authority and too little oversight. Let the coaches and kids call the games. Screw the ego driven refs.
I got the 500th like
Lol
ive never seen refs like US refs lol
Rabbit ears.
Ref needs to block them out 👍
That isn't enough. Because the players hearing the parents screaming such things will themselves get riled up, and then you have a big problem.
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This dude wouldn’t last a second in an English game shitttttt
Okay and
Games would be a lot better if the parents would just drop the kids off and then go home!
I've umpired baseball and refereed football games. I've made some bad calls and have had some parents and coaches vent their disagreements with me and I let it pass. if you're going to do this, paid or volunteer, you've got to have some thick skin.
There’s a difference between having a thick skin and taking shit none stop most often by ignorant parents.
The loudest and most vile parents tend to be the most ignorant parents. And saying the refs have to get thicker skin is a joke. There is an officiating shortage across the nation and world because of this crap. Official abuse is not okay and should not be normalized. Officials are literally being assaulted and murdered in the world.
What a sad sad ref. He seem to have a bit of the hitler complex about him
It's always a good sign when a ref who can't or won't run fast enough to stay anywhere near the action suddenly shows some speed when going to the coaches to complain about spectators.
And how many games do you estimate that referee had been a part of that day? How many games can you referee in a day? idk. maybe this is the only one, maybe this is the 5th
@@jljamison Does it matter why the ref can't or won't run to stay near the action? Nope. Regardless of reason, it's not good.
Red coach doesn't understand? Is he clueless? Never heard abusive parents before?
Someone needs their safe space.
if your a parent either shut the hell up or leave
Thank fuck the refs in England aren't scared to have their feeling hurt like this lot
Parents are the main reason there’s a shortage of referees, umpires, etc. I’ve done both baseball and soccer and have tossed parents from the field. You’re paid a nominal fee to do the job but it’s not nearly enough to have to deal with crap from parents who can’t just cheer for their child and their team. They cuss at you, call you names, degrade you and even say they’ll meet you in the parking lot after the game. Nothing you could pay me or give to me to be threatened with bodily harm. It’s a game. The parents are ruining it for their children. They need to take ownership of that fact. Until that happens the shortage will continue. 🤘
He wouldn't last 5 minutes in the UK
What a terrible insult to the UK
And I bet you have never even been a ref at a decent standard. The UK parents are worse than Americans for the abuse.
Power trip
How i said in others ways in Italy this is the normality and here there are no border no fences, what pretend the refree? that people , tifosi, supporter, funs, stay in silence ? This is not a tennis match! COME ON !!!!
The funny thing is...there's not a player on the field that's any good....They all stink at soccer.
Ref got a lil power complex
since when do the coaches have to control the parents, i want my money back.
"Laws of the Game", which are the "official" rules of soccer, do not give referees direct authority over spectators. So local league/tournament rules dictate what is appropriate. Often these local "rules of competition" will specifically give enforcement of spectators to the coaches; if coaches don't control their spectators, the coaches can be ejected and/or the game called.
jersey4life31 since ever
Coaches are responsible for their entire team that includes the parents if the referee has had enough of hearing complaints from parents they have every right to tell the coaches to go tell the parents to stop
Most youth sports have rules about behavior. They say coaches are responsible for their team and their teams parents. Most of the time the refs just eject the asshole parents and play continues in a much calmer environment. Other times the coaches are warned, as a way of keeping everyone in the game also as a way of penalizing the offending team by potentially ejected a coach as well as the parents.
Yeah - as a ref, I hate it. I don’t want to take away a bunch of playing time to get a coach to waddle across the field to tell his parents to shut up.
I did toss out two parents once. They were on the verge of getting into a fight, and I figured they might as well settle it in the parking lot. (AFAIK, they calmed down on their way out.)
jeez these match officials should stay out of Burger King and MacDonalds before the matches
American Refs are so sensitive try refereeing a game on a sunday in the UK. Parents are easy to ignore just smile and get on with the game.
How you supposed to respect a referee when he turns up looking like that. The state of him. How is he going to keep up with play
The ref is weak
Ref needs a little less pudding and whinging and more exercise
one wrong thing he did you don't say shut up you tell them to control their parents many ref associations would punish the ref for that
Agreed--that is the one correction I would make--"shut up" isn't necessary. But it's 10 minutes in and we're already hearing parents yelling "call it both ways" and jumping on the referee--I suspect he was a bit fed up. Doesn't excuse the "shut up", but I'll give him a break....
fernando gandarilla yeah I agree.
He should have said stfu
Seriously what is it with these refs? Grow some plums or go to a convent.
Tired of soccer Ref's being so thin skinned. "Sticks and Stones" ref.
Get a new ref he's a infant
As a referee, this was too funny. 10 min in? He’s already had enough? How bad is he? I’ve played semi pro, referred D-1 and above. This is America. We are a diverse society. Things that are acceptable/unacceptable vary worldwide. Me, I’m American. Born and raised. Is American soccer different? You better believe it. Magic spray is a hoax. Grow a pair and play the game. Grow a bigger pair and REF the game! Every time I try to retire from refereeing, they break glass and pull me back in.
Another thin skinned ref.
Horrible mechanics by the AR, first of all. WAY out of shape, didn't face the field, stepped onto the field while "jogging" down the line. Center Ref., lacked tack and lacked respect toward the coaches in dealing with "chirpy" disaggrements from the parents.
This is what’s happened to our America, people are so thin skinned that they can’t handle a little criticism. We’ve turned into a bunch of crybabies because of a few hurt feelings...
Soccer refs are the biggest wimps. I take more from parents at basketball and football games. Hell, they are fans. If you can't handle it, stay out of anything having to do with officiating.
Games are constantly going without referees, 70% of them quit in the first year. Nobody wants to do the job, so what's the answer idiot? Find magic referees from the magic referee tree, or require the parents and coaches to behave properly?
I am an official myself...you turd. An official has to have thick skin or you are in the wrong business. If they can't find soccer people that want to be soccer official...that's a different subject. Try going to any officials camp and come back and talk to me. You will find...you are the biggest idiot. You don't know crap. parents are always going to think their kid is great and you can't call worth a crap. They are parents that's what they do. You tune it out unless there is some profane language being used. So, magic or not. I could care less who calls a soccer game or any other game. As long it is called right...
You sound like you haven't finished growing up yet. Come back to me when you understand that however you view refereeing or the world in general, isn't correct. BTW 20 year official, goodluck with your career, certainly able to keep a level head.
Growing up. That's a laugh. I have been an official for over 20 years in multiple sports all the way up to college. Go to a camp and then talk. Until then, you have nothing to say because you have no earthly idea what you are talking about.
I don't know why you keep talking about "Camp". At my level we got to National Referee Clinics, not camps. We're not 8th graders.
That referee is the typical crap we get in Michigan. He is so out of shape and couldn’t keep up with the fast U 15 players. But he gets paid very well like $30 for the game. That’s more then teachers, police officers, firefighters, and UAW laborers receive. The referee is not needed. It’s all a power and money grab. Soccer is suppose to be fun let the coaches and parents be refs. They’d do just as well and save $100 a game.
rob petrick ok, then your game wouldn’t be seen as competitive and would rather be seen as equivalent to a u6 game
So you're telling me that your local U15 matches can get by using volunteer parents, who most likely have bias, instead of paying a third, neutral party to make sure lil Johnny or Suzie isn't injured cause the parent doesn't wanna call a foul on his/her son/daughter?
Yes Bobby and Michigan is seeing fewer & fewer officials. 1500 start & quit each year. Yet clubs keep recruiting players and adding teams. You SHOULD lace up your sneaks and get to work.
Change you profession soccer referee is not for you Sr.