SLAVERY From a Scottish Point of View... A Lesson From Scottish History
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- Slavery is often seen as a racial issue, but Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey takes you to Culross and the National Mining Museum in Newton Grange to tell the story of coal slavery in Scotland.
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Yes. I had read this one. Again, very thought provoking, thanks.
can you not do a video on the cochrane clan and their history?
So when you think of Jews you show a picture of Eastern European converts??? Interesting
LOL , delete simple questions - do you believe non-whites can be racist?Let's get to the truth
I love culross I’m fae Edinburgh Scotland
Absolutely brilliant should be compulsory viewing for the whole country “the colour of slavery isn’t black or white, the colour of slavery is green” can be applied to so many parts of our lives.
I agree. This video is amazing and should be shown in British classrooms.
And now Cities and States in America want to terminate workers for not submitting and still require them to come to work until they can find a replacement. Slave owners are now revealing themselfs.
cash rules everything around me! Aye slavery is not about skin colour its about money, we obviously dont learn from our history for if we did there wouldnt be 40 million slaves worldwide today.
It needs wider viewing than just one country
Did he say "green" or "greed"?
I understand greed, because why green? If it's green could someone help to drop the penny?
Throughout history, slavery has been practiced by virtually every race, nationality and religion. As you rightly point out, slavery has far less to do with racial enmity than with avarice.
Rich screw over working class people since the dawn of time
Racializing slavery prevents working class/low income from uniting against the wealthy
Its not a coincidence that occupy movement, push to raise minimum wage, and address income inequality was replaced by identity politics by the wealthy media supported by wealthy advertisers. Its wealthy dividing the lower classes yet seeming to care.
The only colors that matter in slavery and poverty are green and gold
Simply divide and conquer. Jim Crow happened to an extent because the ruling class saw social solidarity was growing between minorities and poor whites.
Yep, and many fail to realize it. In America, the most recent event of slavery involves blacks, and it stops at that. I know we are taught in school that Irish who came to America we're indentured servants, but is this true? Not really, indentured servants were an alternative version of slavery. They were overworked and mistreated, and owned to a certain degree, like African slaves
@@user-xd9yo3le7o , that's why racial categories were created in the first place. "The ruling class saw social solidarity was growing between minorities and poor whites."
In the US it was race based.
Wow, more people in Scotland and the wider world need to see this, I had no idea coal miners in Scotland had it that bad. This was never mentioned in school and I don't know anyone until now in Scotland who knows this. So fascinating.
There are so many groups of people all over the world all through history (and present day) who live(d) under similar conditions.
miners had it bad everywhere...still no one forced them into the mines
Thank you so much. My grandmother being born near Edinburgh and my grandfather in Alsace Germany....that made my father who is black descending from slaves/slave owners, made my life weird . Racism played a big and confusing part of my childhood. As an adult I have children with a man who is half Spanish and half native American . It's fun to watch racists today look at my oldest daughter who is blonde haired hazel eyes and pale skinned , and assume she must be white. Sure she is. But she is also Black and Native American. Ignorance is an affliction that can be treated. Do better people. We are all on the same boat. And if it sinks, would you care what color the person was that saved you from drowning?
Now a days they certainly wouldn’t care what color they who saved their life, but the way people are, they would accept you help without saying thank you and would proceed to throw the person who saved them off the boat.
So you made the perfect argument why a nation is stronger when the people are homogenous and connected....otherwise their women fuxk off with half Spainish-Americans instead of sticking with racial Scots and keeping Scotland alive.
Tell me when will you be happy? When every single British person had been killed off and replaced with Africans? Don't you see who is the racist here?
The Brythonic people have inhabited this Island for 4,000+ years, this whole race mixing crap came in around barely 50 years and you have the racial hatred to say we should roll over and die off.
@@sunayakong8537lol .... i did this accept me 🙃
Both sides of my Family and all their families mined coal in Scotland from the early 1800s until the 1980s. My father worked from 14 years of age in the Lanarkshire pits and decided joining the H.L.I was a better option 😳 The Death rates for miners was through the roof, many pit owners paid miners with vouchers that could only be spent in shops and pubs in the owned by the owner families. The lesson I learned was rich people enslave poor people in most cases regardless of colour or creed.
rich people? It was usually a class... you could still be rich, and not be accepted by the elite/aristocrats. It's still part of society today.
@@JosephGibson Much as that’s true, it isn’t really relevant!
I used to build boats for a living. About 25 years ago I built one for a lawyer who was also a coal mine owner in West Virginia. He owned the homes the miners lived in, the grocery store they shopped in, the gas station they filled their cars at. Basically, he owned the town and, some could argue, the people in it. They worked all week for him to get paid on Friday and then they gave it back to him on Saturday. He got a great kick out of telling me how it worked.
I've told this story before and sometimes someone would say they could just leave but - could they really? It's hard to get very far when you don't have a penny in your pocket. They certainly aren't slaves in the cotton plantation sense but they are definitely slaves to an economy that won't allow much in the way of upward mobility.
In the United States, those "vouchers" the coal miners got paid in were called "scrip" or "script", and yes, they could only be redeemed in stored owned by the coal mining company or mine owners. Thus the song lyrics, "I used to think my Daddy was a Black man, with scrip enough to buy the Company Store. But now he goes to town with empty pockets, and his skin is white as Alleghany snow."
@@rhino5100 It's also what Tennessee Ernie Ford is singing about when he says, "I owe my soul to the 'company store'.", in "16 Tons". My Grandfather worked for the lumber company and it was the same. They lived in a "mill house" and they got by with paying so little because they paid "credit" for you at the store. But that didn't do you a lick of good if you needed money for the doctor, or something you couldn't get from the company. And this was in the 1950s, so not ancient times like so many people think it was.
Great information. I just finished reading the book "White Cargo, The Forgotten History of Britain's White Slaves in America"
by Don Jordan and Michael Walsh. As an African American this book opened my eyes about a history that is not taught here. As we learned, the White people were indentured servants when in reality they were also enslaved. Glad I found you.
yep, humans alway been doing evil shit to weaker humans... just was easier to do it with africans because they had slaves ready to sell.. if they could buy slaves in london or parish right off the street they would have done it.. basic human evil
Rebecca.... you are absolutely right. I have learned so much more through working on our family tree than I ever did in History class. My ancestors immigrated here from the mid 1600's through early 1800's. (Mostly from Scotland and England) I know we descended from slave owners and indentured servants and possibly a slave or two. (My mom and aunt have a small percentage of African in their DNA.) I have come across so many stories that both made me proud and made me sad but the one that was a reality check was this one..... While researching an ancestor from VA in the 1600's, I ran across a quote from a letter stating how the white women in the colony love the black males private part. It was at that moment I realized that in the early years it wasn't about skin color but about status. Indentured servants and freed slaves would start families together and nobody cared. It was slowly, over time, that restrictions, rules and laws turned into the slavery we all think about today. In the early years slaves were allowed to work odd jobs for others to earn money and could use it to buy their freedom. At that point, the owner had to set them up with land and certain animals to help them get started as a free person. Many of these families were the mulattos who moved into Appalachia as laws began restricting the freed blacks rights.
I am Irish and my Irish ancestors where enslaved way before indentured servitude. Sadly that doesn't appear in our history.
@Gollum no Gollum by the British long after the Vikings. That doesn't appear in our history books because it doesn t suit the narritve.
scots were taken to dublin ,the hub of white slavery , whites were also taken to algeria iand other places much later in 1500s , i think its gone on since ancient sumerian times and all over
Best one yet. Loved the ratchet affect. My grandmother was “farmed-out” by her family and given to another family as a domestic servant. She wasn’t given any wages or education, just room and board for her labors. She ran away at 17 to Detroit to escape her servitude.
@DimFM
The real thief is the family/people who felt they could buy/sell/trade the time and labor of another human being and enforce that upon them. Not that you’re capable of thinking beyond “stealing bad” anyways.
@DimFM
You would’ve been the type of cheer on the runaway slave patrols because you didn’t see them as people, but as property that would be classified as “loss” or “theft” when they make a break for freedom.
@DimFM you dont owe a “employer” shit if you quit and leave. Calling that situation anything close to a employee quitting is being generous when in reality it’s slavery. You cant own another person so its not theft in any sense.
@DimFM You cant and we didnt*
They had imprisoned and kidnapped people and forced them to work in inhumane conditions. Thats not ownership. You cant *own* something with freewill. You can own a hammer because it wont hammer without YOU or SOMEONE using it. A human will do things regardless if anyone tells them to or not. You can assert control over them but they still have autonomy over themselves and no amount of chains can change that despite the cruelty inflicted in an effort to stop the autonomy. This isn’t modern morals, thats just facts.
You dont owe an “employer” for quitting your job and leaving.
Keep living in your fantasy world tho. Those days are bygone. you missed the chance to “annihilate” shit besides your own mentality. Should’ve, would’ve, could’ve.
@DimFM really quite now my dude
Telling history with a focus on the the Scots and how they were used during that era is interesting. Shows how deeply connected everyone really is too.
Indeed
Honestly I'd love to see this dude doing full length documentaries.
@netflix
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This
Stumbled on this channel by accident. This guy needs to be on TV. If content and teachers like this had been around when I was in school 30+ years ago I wouldn't have hated history as a subject.
I absolutely love how nuanced your content is. Nothing is ever presented as black and white. Which not only representative of how real life is, but also refreshing in this age of absolutes.
Your videos are simply superb, believe it or not Scots aren’t taught Scottish history, your videos have enlightened and inspired me. Truly a shame our history is forgotten.
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Slavery is green. Brilliant and educational. This stuff is what Kids should be learning at school.
Yeah, dismiss the role of racism because it makes people feel less uncomfortable
Umm it's far more complicated then that, in America it was much more than green
@@forwhy8723 Islam enslaved 18million africans, was that racism?
@@jesusjohnny8286 selective marketing
@@forwhy8723 I think his point is that racism is learned behavior. Learned behavior can be unlearned. But his greater point is that people will justify any evil they can if they profit from the oppression. Remove economic incentives for racism or any oppression is the best tool for defeating it.
But his overall point was greed is and was the true enemy.
Genuinely believe YOU and your content should be in our scottish schools. You have given me the best gift... knowledge
On another note, headphone warning at 10.03 😆👌
@DriftZ TwoSeven hmm so we shouldn't teach history? Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
Great idea
This should be a mandatory course in American high schools. There are so many Scottish and Irish descendants in the SE USA. Wonder why.
@@travelinghighlander3383 I think that was a sarcastic comment.
I’m not smart and I got a poor education but he’s talking about something I some how knew, humans were born enslaved everywhere from the beginning of our time. Thank you.
I remember as a kid my grandfather telling me about this but unfortunately he passed away before I could learn more about our Scottish family history. I'm definitely wanting to learn more
I think it was the comedian Steve Hughes that said the only difference between slavery then and now is that today we have to pay for our own food and accomodation 😂 “Giving them food and accomodation when we can just give them 8 cents an hour? Right folks, you’re free to go, we’ll see you tomorrow morning at 7am” 😂
Aye, there's a point
It's called, the modern slavery acy.
They ran the company stores here. So part of your pay was script you could only use for the over priced and shoddy goods the company store carried and you lived in company owned houses. That is what the song "16 ton" is all about. In Cape Breton you could choose to be a fisherman or a coal miner, either was a way to die young.
Americans still participate in slavery by outsourcing it. When we buy products from countries where slavery, slave wages and human rights violations exist, we are participants.
@@mrsmcdonald9363 And if not that it’s us as consumers. Nike and Coca-Cola are among the major companies and business groups lobbying Congress to weaken a bill that would ban imported goods made with forced labor in China. So when we buy Nike products or Coca Cola, are we all complicit in it to some degree instead of boycotting? However, then again not everyone knows this sort of information unless you look for it.
I never thought of slavery on a continuum. Absolutely brilliant.
In addition to visiting the Scottish Mining Museum (which I have), you can also visit the Museum of Scotland, in Edinburgh, and actually see one of the brass collers that were welded around the necks of miners, indentifying who really 'owned' them.
Well said 👏 Sir. This is true and honest history of slavery through out the world. Totally agree the "green" controls everything and the works of corrupt men and world's government's. Thank you for highlighting that slavery is not related to one's color of skin but by man's evil intentions.It is a sad part of history to all of mankind. The real truth of history being set free here.Again thank you Sir. ❤️ From 🇺🇸 Jessica
After researching my family history, I found that I have at least two centuries of Scottish mining ancestors mainly from the Bothwell / Bellshill area. Some time ago during my research I came across an article explaining the laws you mentioned and the families working in servitude. I remember my dad telling me the same story when I was a child but never really absorb the information until seeing your video. So I would like to say thank you for opening my eyes to the reality of the hard lives that they led.
You are 100% correct... slavery is certainly not black & white. It definitely is green.
I heard a great quote by an American founder, There are two forms of slavery: not paying someone forced to work and paying someone for not working. I’m obviously paraphrasing, but the whole topic is mind blowing!
As a white Scotsman I can't get over you not liking raspberries.
Great video yet again, desperately trying to get my kids into your channel. 👍
Aye, the white oppressor has been forcing raspberries on us for years
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I'm not sure if I should fight the urge to apologise or not...... sorry? Shit.. no I'm not... am I? I'm turning my phone off now.
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@@pablohumphs6060 - he's only half Scottish so we'll have to forgive him.
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I don't like raw raspberries, but raspberry pie is good 😋
Blimey. I put off watching this for a while, sat idly in my ‘watch later’ list, not so much because the content was going to be hard going (clearly it would be) as much as it being something we need to face head-on, but more needing and deserving my full attention and concentration. As with everything, supremely well handled, and thank you so much for putting this together. I had no idea how inhumane the mining industry had been with bonded servitude so this has been an education. It’s still so relevant today.
Super interesting!! My family has Scottish roots and my Grandpa was a West Virginia coal miner. He started when he was just a boy - having been born in 1896 and orphaned at 11 or 12. I always find anything surrounding this subject interesting, but this video was extremely informative!! One day I hope to visit Scotland!!
I hope you make it Patricia
Thd difference is how the 2 sets of people were treated when slavery actually ended. The stigma of once being a slave would not have applied to one group based on the colour of their skin. Discrimination against black people originates from their status as slaves.
Good video by the way.
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It actually originates from the status as Kings and Queens but that’s on the hush cuz we didn’t just rule Africa... who put the “Dub” in Dublin? 👋🏾
@M'Kayla Silva One could take the beginning of that history back to Esau & Jacob and up to 70ad. As for those who call themselves 'Jews' today, there is nothing in their bloodlines linking them to Judah, but does link them to Japheth. Any bigotry towards them is the consequence of having stolen the identity of a people who are not their own, as noted by the fact that they didn't take on the actual curses that befell the real people of the Book for whom slavery is a constant factor of their history as a form of punishment for their insistent betrayals against the Creator. I found it interesting when this commentator put forth the question of 'why' these two groups of people were so hated, but failed to follow through with the truth. The racial hatred is actually for ONE group not two. The one group who call themselves 'Jews' now is a facsimile and a failed attempt at identity theft. The other group who are the real bloodline, goes on to fulfill the status they fell to, forgetting over the generations their own identity as a people. The Book actually does speak of the entire account of ONE people... past, present, and future.
Great and important point!
@@freedomwarfighter .... You are accurate however there is more .... The If I told you the the Color of the Skin of the Original Hebrew changed as it spread the world would you believe me ?
The Anointing never changed tho ...
The DNA will tell you the Story there is Power in the Blood... Obviously the Ultimate Power is in His Blood shed the Lion of Judah ...
But yes Sis you are 100 % accurate ... And the People Who nowadays look like the Ancient Hebrew are being oppressed . Brown and Dark Brown .
God/Yah Bless Christ 💯
Extremely interesting video. According to the Domesday Book census, over 10% of the population of England and Wales at the time (around 1085-1086) were slaves, and I would not be surprised if this was true for Scotland as well.
Slavery in Scotland continued at least into the 12th century - they attacked England on numerous occasions and murdered, raped their way through the north of England and carried off people as slaves. I am not sure the English did the same at that time because the Normans head little interest in slavery for some reason. the Saxons used slaves.
The Scots came down taking slaves after the harrying of the north. They said every house in the lowlands has an English slave
Well. We are in 2021 and that figure has gone up to 99%
@@dnmurphy48 Norman culture was different to English culture for sure - so much so that they mocked and denigrated the English at every opportunity, until the separate Norman elite began seeing themselves as natives.
Relations between England and Scotland were often unusually good by European standards up until Edward I began to meddle. What sort of trajectory would they have taken if the Normans had failed in 1066?
It’s like asking how England and France would view each other if Edward III had not pressed his claim to the French Throne (Edward I had no legitimate cause in Scotland, but Edward III really did have one in France!)
I had my eyes opened to the plight of Scottish miners when I read Robert Chrichtons 1972 book " The Camerons" which was based on the lives of his coal mining grandfather. In it he mentioned that in the mines they came upon a skeleton with an iron collar around his neck. He was a criminal who was sentenced for life to work in the mines. Chilling. Thanks for bringing this chapter of humanity out into the open. ❤
First off, I must say, what an amazing channel you've created. Rich in detail and history. It's amazing to hear how intricate all of these alliances and treaties ended up in real people and ways of life dying. Sad for sure.
As a hoot, I bought 10 ft sq of land in Scotland for my woman and I last christmas. Just for fun but it made us a Lord & Lady. Probably something we would not want to be back in that time period for sure! Cheers for the great information.
Hello Bruce, from an ex-pat Scot living in Cape Town. They say Scotland's best export are her people. I found your channel a few months back and have loved watching your videos. You're some storyteller. I have a passion for history, and not just Scottish history, and how it molds and forms the relevance of today's world. I think if more youngsters were to watch your channel, they would appreciate a lot more about the world we live in. Time and change are constant and we must change with time. I look forward to more great stories of Scotland as told by you. Thanks.
Hahaha, I'm a Capetonian living in Crail. Weather swop? 😉
@@anthonybaiocchi3028 No thanks, I've been waiting all year for summer here. Hahaha! BTW: I love Crail, such a beautiful wee fishing village. We've lived in Hout Bay for the past 25 years.
@@tartan2307 do me a favour, next time you head down to Dunes for a meal - have a Windhoek Lager for me!
@@anthonybaiocchi3028 Absolutely will.
Expat? So an immigrant
As a former miner I found this particular video extremely fascinating and shared it with a former striking miners group I belong to.
Every video of yours that I click on to watch draws me in. They are well produced, edited, shot, and you Sir (Laird) have the soul of a poet.
We always hear things like “They were of their time” or that certain things were simply the way it was.
It is very soul warming to hear any account of people from the time of chattel slavery coming out against it without caveats. The moral question of something kind of vanishes over time because it is never the opponents of capital that get to create the history everyone learns. It gives history a very cold feeling unless you did further down. Thanks
Enlightening…couldn’t hold back tears when you spoke about the landmark judgment in Joseph’s court case…eternally grateful to people who fought against injustices and people in positions of authority who had the courage and humanity to deliver the right decisions …
The shifting lines, moving notches notion around freedom has an eerie ring of recurring relevance to it. Great video as always!
I love this brother's work.
Fantastically logical, well shot, nicely edited, excellently paced.
If there was an Oscar for CZcams videos I'd nominate you.
Sadly in these days it is a rare treat to come across a true historian. Thanks that really gave me a lot to think about. Keep em coming.
hmmm this is a very deep subject. however, I never knew that the coal mine owners had so much control over it's workers in Scotland. very informative. thank you, Bruce.
there were similar things going on in Europe too (especially what is now Russia). I'd learned about those, but not the Scots
My own Grandfather worked in a Lanarkshire coal mine, when aged only 12. His job was to kill the rats trying to steal the meagre food of the working miners. This was also in the 20th century.
@@mrsuperger5429 Hopefully he had some good little terriers to catch and kill the rats.
it's not a deep subject... you're just shallow
I really appreciate that you will talk about subjects that other people might be discouraged from talking about. And your videos are just generally entertaining and informative. Excellent work!
Aye, sometimes I pay the price in the comments section 😂
I consider this man my brother in the struggle for truth and equality for all men & women. #PowerToThePeople
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I loved this. Yep, "the color of slavery is green".
I born in '67 in Dundee and when I was a kid coal miners to me were incredibly hardworking, brave, tough men who had an almost mythical mystique about them and were definitely respected. Different times. Thanks as ever for the history lesson bud. All the best! 👍
When I visited Culross a few years ago I learned about the law that vagrants could be enslaved as coal miners in the 18th century. It was truly shocking to me and I realised then that slavery was not all about Africans and slave ships. I’m nearly 60! It’s about time History was taught properly in schools! Thank you for your great videos. I’m enjoying them so much. History is so fascinating when taught well. My ancestors escaped Aglab drudgery by moving into the steel cities where they worked as Miners etc. in the 19th Century and beyond. Our generation has so much to be grateful for and we need to fight to protect our freedoms such as they are.
Another great video, I’m truly fascinated by your lectures on Scottish history and how it bleeds into so many other aspects of life past & present, “the colour of slavery is green” says it all really. Best subscription I’ve done in ages.
Well done, very informative. I always heard people In the coal mine in Wales and Scotland were enslaved. But had never heard anyone give any specifics.
Brilliant peice ,I've been aware of the miners and salt pan workers for a long time ,I did my family history and found that my 7 times great grandparents were "coaliers" and owned by the coal mine , he was born in 1772 and died 55 years later ,how true ,the true colour of slavery is greed
History can inform us. Thanks for doing that, Bruce. The ratchet is a warning.
It sure is
Bruce this was so interesting, serendipity is a wonderful thing. Your channel was just what I needed and I didn't even know it . I'm really looking forward to watching your whole series. ❤️🤩
Found this channel a few short weeks ago and it's quickly became my favourite. Unbelievable videos sir, keep it up!
Welcome aboard!
As a proud wild raspberry, I just want to say I enjoy content.
Only thing worse than a tame raspberry...
He's right slavery was a business and still a business with the human trafficking.😡
The Prison Industrial Complex, in the US, is also Slavery. The US has more men in prison than any other country on earth. There should be no private, for profit prisons. There is also Slavery and starvation in North Korea as well. I absolutely agree with you about human trafficking being Slavery too.
This is my favorite channel. I have learned so much history here. Much more than I ever learned in school. Keep up your amazing work sir! I wish you, your family, friends and associates a very merry Christmas and a prosperous healthy new year as well!
Thanks. You're kind
Excellent tutorial on parts of unheard of Scottish history. Should be mandatory teaching in schools. Keep up the good work and possibly you will educate enough people to see the whole picture of Scotland’s chequered history.
Excellent! My Welsh ancestors were coal miners as well. Then migrated and worked in the coal mine of Pennsylvania. I do not know enough about my Scottish ancestors they but I know they were from Perthshire. This should be recommended viewing for all.
@@irenejohnston6802 I do indeed. I lived near Scranton, PA, and saw the coal tailings burning even blue at night. The smoke was everywhere. Fortunately, that is now gone, coal mines too.
The creeping laws eating away at freedom is ever present. Very timely and informative.
That very statement is relevant to current times is it not ? Stripping of rights at every turn , forcing a trial drug on people who don't want it and using extortion and fear tactics to coerce people to comply , yet not forcing the same on those in higher society....almost as if slavery never ended at all.......funny thing about rights , they can't be taken bc they are rights , only privileges can be taken or altered , rights can't be taken or altered , yet here we stand with our rights being altered and stripped day by day month by month year by year , the reigns getting tighter and tighter all the while the masses being convinced to go along with and even beg for more of it bc well it's for their safety don't ye know....I'll take me raspberries and freedom and bugger off into the wilderness , any souls foolish enough to follow after will be force fed raspberries and blackberries until they agree to leave me in peace and never return....evil wee bastard I know 😂
@@wickedone6476 I studied psychology along time ago. We were told that according to one well regarded researcher (Skinner maybe) the vast majority of human behaviour is the result of conditioning, rather than free will. In my ignorance I failed to see how correct he was. I have a greater appreciation of his insight, now. Having said that, I think the materialist ideology most of us are infected with is immune to any vaccine or other remedy coming from an external source, bur is able to be overcome through dedicated work to develop self-knowledge and true spiritual awareness.
@@findiwindles whilst I understand what you're saying I can't totally agree that it's all conditioning , were that to be the case everyone would have the same political views and be docile as a dove to everything the government said and did. Yet the fact remains many still aren't and cling to freedom because it's human nature to be free and live life according to what makes them happy , which I agree with so long as it doesn't involve taking rights from others or hurting others needlessly. Not everyone is "infected " with materialistic tendencies , some just want to live life in peace and not be buggered with by every traipsing Tom that feels like their way is better and the only way things can be done. Jobs bills and so forth only further prove slavery never ended at all . If a man could hunt and fish for food and live in the wilds not bothering a soul he would have attained freedom , but when you have no choice but to work your life away living by the standards of others and never get to just enjoy life and the fruits of your toils , well I would argue that is slavery . It's a system designed to keep you from ever being able to leave it . If I have to pay you for something I already own , it's not truly mine , if you can take it from me and punish me however you see fit , then I am infact your property and that is the same as a slave. If I can't have a drink or a smoke because someone else decides I shouldn't or I can't get a tattoo or piercing because someone else says I can't how am I free ? For my government to be able to control me to that extent , I would say that's more like being their property (slave) than a free man because it would appear they own my body at that point.
@@wickedone6476 My comments on youtube tend toward the long side because I'm increasingly more inclined to keep my opinions to myself unless I have something worthwhile to say. Typically, if its worth saying, it is generally better understood with some explanation and context to ensure the reader gains a fuller understanding of what you really mean. In this case, however, I think brevity serves perfectly well, when I say - I completely agree with you.
@@findiwindles Aye , I understand what you mean , which is why mine are so long winded . Also the reason why I rarely make comments , when I do I feel the necessity to fully explain for context purposes as well and many people don't care for reading long replies.
This is absolutely fascinating! Who knew! Thanks Bruce! 🙏🇮🇪🏴👌
Very welcome
Thank you Bruce. I’ve been putting off watching this video for fear that it would have been focused on the Triangular Trade. I should have appreciated your usual broadness of scope and watched sooner. Enlightening as always.
I never knew that Culross was pronounced “Kouros”. I used to be based in nearby Rosyth during my Navy days in the 80s.. I should have paid more attention to local history than living it up the the pubs and clubs of Dunfermline and Edinburgh, wearing my Kouros aftershave. Excellent channel. We were never taught this type of Scottish history at my school.
Anyone else get the feeling that the ratchet is slowly tightening around us now
there have been many over the years.....I wonder if that's how the "great civilizations" of the past fell...
Yes it is. World wide!
It's not so much a rachet tightening, people are aware of that happening, the sound is a giveaway. Think of it more as a frog being put into a pot of cold water & it is slowly being brought to the boil. We are all the frogs.
@@skasteve6528 sadly the ones who Are Aware are criticized as conspiracy theorists!
If the ratchet is tightening around you it is only because you are allowing it to.
Remember the battle cry "Freedom!"
I enjoyed simply listening to this. You should narrate audiobooks about history! 👏 👏 👏
You are amazing Bruce and I am a huge fan. Greetings from Stirling!
My god. There is so much in this episode to think through. I admit my mind is kind of blown by the information today. Brilliant, just brilliant. Thank you Bruce and crew.
Still loving the videos...👍🏻. And laughed out loud at your point about the colour of slavery being green, never a truer word spoken in modern terms. Keep the great videos coming Bruce, I'm using them now to educate my grand kids and myself...! wish my teacher's had been as personable as you at school, I may have learnt something back then.😆
Guid lad
Love you man and may God bless you.
The way of production for this video reminds me of how history shows used to be. Or documentary shows or a discover channel back in the day...only better. I don't know how to put it...but it's comforting. Subscribed!
Your videos are evolving and increasingly thought provoking. Poignant observations and making modern day comparisons really aids my understanding of the history and how we got to where we are today.
Thank you Bruce. Keep smiling 😃
Makes me realise how 'lacking' the history was that I was taught back in the 60's and early 70's........................ I wonder why! Enjoy
This is so sad!
A few years ago, I learned about my ancestor who was captured by the British, put on a slave ship for NJ. He ended up escaping. It opened my eyes to something I never knew existed. I know it's not the same situation as the miners in Scotland but TY for doing this and helping educate others on subjects like this.
Thank You Bruce. We all bleed red . Slavery alive and well in many parts of the world to this day 😢.
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My new favourite CZcams channel. Being Scottish (Paisley) with an interest in history this channel is essential viewing.
History that makes people uncomfortable is the most important type to learn in my opinion, it’s hard to know where you’re going if you don’t know where you’ve been, however uncomfortable the place
Welcome on board
A very thought provoking video again, Bruce. It was even more so as a native of Newtongrange (it's one word btw!) and that my ancestors were all miners in that area going back to the 17th Century. The remnants of slavery carried on to the early 20th century. A manager was in charge of the town - not just the employees but their houses, which were coal board owned, their families and children. It was not uncommon for the manager, while walking round the town,to say to a miner, 'Yer gairden's a mess. See me in my office tomorrow.' Or ,'I see yer bairn is about ready to leave the school. He'll be working doon the pit, I suppose.' If the miner protested and said his child was going to college, the response was akin to 'Do ye like living in this hoose, Mr {Surname}. A 19th century ancestor lost two children in three days due to scarlet fever and had to carry on working. The house my dad lived in before he died did not have running water until after the Second World War! Your video has given me a new respect for my ancestors which has come with greater understanding of their conditions. Once again, Bruce, top notch stuff.
PS Any Tunnocks Tea Cakes left?
I had a very good basic knowledge of slavery. I knew the story of slavery and it's financial rewards as well as the colourlessness. I knew of the slaves taken by every race on Earth as their conquered their neighbours and other nations, how Celts, Vikings and going back to Syrians, Greeks, Persians, Medo-Persians, Egyptians etc took slaves. It was a common practice that you would enslave your enemies people as bounty of raids. I knew also that many famous leaders had been slaves as was St. Patrick. I didn't know the history of Scottish miners as slaves, as many of my family had their origins in the pits of Scotland then Lancashire and Yorkshire - that was new, so many thanks for filling in that part of my education. I think a visit to the museum is on my list when back north of the boarder.
Your knowledge of the past, presentation of the facts, and insight for the future are a treasure for the listening ear.
The time and work you put into this video comes to tell a story as interesting as it is important. 👍
Thanks
Black guy here. Found out I'm 2% Scotish. I landed here. I'm 2 minutes in and I like it so far.
Yay
Slavery has existed for thousands of years across the globe. The Middle East was the most dominant market for slavery, with even white European slaves along with black Africans. You can even find parts of coastal Scotland men and mostly women being taken as slaves during raids by vikings.
Never heard anyone mention this period in the history of coal miners ever before. Thank you. Great video
This is just unspeakably excellent! The clarity, the calm presentation, the cogence...Wow. Thank you!
Thank you
Your way of speaking language inspires me and gives me goosepimples. My heritage is complicated. My mother was adopted by a Creek and Swedish couple. My grandmother's mother was Creek. She married a Scottish man, my great granpa on adopted Mom's side. She was the product of an "important" man and a trafficked young woman who was taken advantage if by this "important" group of landstealers. My mother married my father who is related closely to Robert E. Lee. I was raised by my Creek family in Florida. Thank you for this.
You’re a great storyteller. I like the fact that you acknowledge the differences in the type of slavery Black people were subjected to while talking about slavery in Scotland. Tbh, had no idea about coal mining related slavery. Learned something new from your video.
Superb and extremely interesting! I thought this might be about the Jacobites shipped to the West Indies but it was even more than that. Racism is only ignorance pure and simple.
The story of Scottish slaves would be interesting, as it's totally been ignored.
@@iancampbell6925 sadly it's largely unknown these days but I'm sure the big man will get around to it lol
@@vonsprague7913 @Vin Sprague...irony. This law was introduced by King James VI.
@@iancampbell6925 My Stewart and MacQueen ancestors were Jacobites brought to N. America in chains after being captured at the Battle of Preston. They were sold to a tobacco plantation in Maryland, where they stayed for the rest of their lives as slaves. Their children married and were able to leave. They had a son who served as a colonel in the Revolutionary War. I always wondered if there was resentment against the English passed down as there was in my family lines that experienced the Clearances.
Wow, you did a fantastic job on this. Thanks for pointing out that there were differences between what was happening there and in the Americas.
Love the subtle contemporary digs against the backdrop of some very interesting real history
Long may such content makers stay ‘free.’
As an older Scott I was surprised by this, why was I not taught this in school ? My memory of the coal miners is the same as yours, I knew many and we thought they were great men who did an amazing important job, and they were ! Just shows that no matter how old you become, you can learn something new every day, even about the place you are from.
Great video, should be compulsory viewing in every school, thank you for the gift of knowlege.
You are so spot on. I grew up in the US South, and never had a racist thought in my mind. I then spent 18 years in the US Army, spending time in the UK, then West Germany, South Korea, and various other locations globally. I never saw any of the indigenous peoples as that different from me, nor to did I see my peers in the Army any different from me ,in fact, I grew even more color blind, we all bleed red, and that is the tie that binds.
Watching this makes me realize I need to learn a lot more about my history, our history
Lots of history to learn. This, to me, opened up new thoughts, ideas and understanding. Thanks.
Brilliant presentation. It should be run on large domestic and international platforms. Coal mining on Vancouver Island has its own particular history. Fascinating to think about alternative sources of energy and the politics of same.
Absolutely astonishing. I'd no idea of the plight of coal workers. Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Read "The road to Wigan pier by George Orwell, if you want to read how it was for coal miners between the wars.
Oh , a breath of fresh air ,
Thank You
I truly have never heard anyone explain slavery quite so well as you did. You definitely got it right. I wish that you could have your own television series in North America. I know I would watch all the time.
As a Jewish person living in Israel, yes raspberries are kosher
I thought you lot loved sea-food,no?
@@Sandwich13455 I can't speak for all Jews. Orthodox Jews won't eat it,as it isn't kosher.
And those who don't keep (like me), I will assume some love it while others don't
@@Sandwich13455
Think shellfish and pork.
Same with Muslims.
No shade. To each their own.
@@abburobinson a few years back,there was a cringey pro Great Britain video on the telly saying fish n chips was brought to these shores by Jewish immigrants,fish n chips was "brought" to an island of all places,i just thought with having access to the Mediterranean, Israeli folk would have a lot of sea food in their diets,thanks for straightening this out for me.
@@owenmccord5078 well colour me suprised,this was a tiny Revelation to me,thanks!
That was fascinating and horrifying. Up the Unions!
In the end it wasn't the Unions that freed the coal workers, it was capitalism and the need for labourers to work the mines which they would only do if freed.
I read that too quickly and wondered what the hell onions were being used for.
@@bonce Pelting the Capitalist! 🧅🧅🧅
my union won't defend against vaccine mandates or mandatory testing as a condition of employment. they agree with the employer. so ya up the unions ass.
Your oppressor can be wearing a pin stripe suit. Your oppressor could also be wearing a duffle coat and mariners cap.
I just got back from a couple weeks in Scotland and have been greedily drinking up all the history & current events of the nation that I can. This was really fascinating, and a very interesting spin on a familiar topic to me, as an American.
You're such an inspiration, such a refreshing channel you've creates here, breaking the mold and inspiring genuine interest stepping beyond the tropes.
Subbed (twice!).
🤣Twice?
Thank you so much for highlighting this. My family the Prides now Prydes famously presented the coalowner at Prestongrange with a petition pleading not to be sent to another colliery. If there is any doubt of how they were treated, read William Pride’s evidence to the 1832 commission. Women were still working underground for the ‘king’ Dundas long after this date. Nice to see the mining museum. There have been several reunions of the Prydes from all over the world at the museum. Thanks again - love your stories.
I think whenever I mention this channel to people, this will be the video I send them to from now on, by far the best place to come for the lesser talked about parts of our history. Captivating stuff again, Bruce.
Just found this. Thank you for the education and nuance to examine the facts! It does not diminish the horror of slavery in the United States but explains how many people have suffered in many places. Thanks for the dose of humanity!
Aye, to be fair, it's not about the United States. It's Scotland History Tours
absolutely loved this. a great thought provoking piece of history. thank you
My first image was of the Dublin slave market followed by the Romans carrying of our tattoo blue painted warriors to fight and serve in Rome
And my son has the exact same ancestry as yourself and I tried to teach him from my own education in Liverpool in the 60s. We were taught
About the disgusting trade my city’s wealth came from and I have shown him the photographs of the chains stapled into the walls of the basements of the buildings all along the river front
As a photographer I have been in many of these caverns. Yes even that famous one.
We moved out of the bombed out city to a new house in a mining village just outside of Liverpool and the miners told of these tales as well
Maybe I am lucky that I had a dad who dragged me around any and all history and archaeology site and was taught to learn from history.
Keep up all the great work you are doing. Our youngest need to learn these things to not make the same mistakes in the future
The World is built on that. The UK now washes everyone's dirty money. Dubai is built on misery as well. I think in the UK we should teach these things and try and remove the worshipping of empire that still exists but keep it in context(there's a tendency to self loathe). Nowhere has a clean pair of hands as humans are flawed. Like Bruce says it's money(resource/power) driven and they'll use religion/race/class whenever appropriate to divide and get more. That mindset is what worries me most going forward as it's only more prevalent with each generation due to conditioning. Greed.
Africa is still being raped via tinpot dictators hiding there money in the UK's web of offshore havens. Ditto the Cartels. Private Business etc etc. The worlds corrupt and greedy but in the west we have full bellies and the mirage(although its creaking) of security. Maybe the next place won't be so soul destroying.
@Israel Hands Cromwell had the Gypsies and Roma transported to the Americas as slaves, maybe he is referring to that? If an African slave made it to England then they had gained their freedom, (edit) after the 1833 Slavery Abolition Act. Prior to that, it was up to the whim of a court and from 1727 after the Yorke-Talbot slavery opinion, slavery was considered lawful in Britain for around 40 years.
If it is still open, there has been an eye opening, moving and disturbing Slavery Exhibition in the old Maritime Museum in Liverpool.
Basically Glasgow, Liverpool and Bristol as well as other lesser ports on the West Coast all got rich on the same trade triangle.
@Israel Hands I agree the sighted rings were more than likely not used for slavery. However slaves were present in Liverpool in the 1700's and were sold at markets in Liverpool, though the numbers are low and most would be household slaves owned by people who purchased them overseas and brought them to Britain.
@Israel Hands During the 1700s there was estimated to be 10-15K people of African background in England at any one time. The Museum of Liverpool records an event where 11 slaves were sold in the Liverpool markets. 1729 Yorke-Talbot slavery opinion, effectively legalised slavery in England for around 40 years.
It's true that it wasn't an established trade, more ad-hoc, but there is plenty of evidence for enslaved people, being enslaved in England prior to 1833.
Thanks for another great story, Bruce. The Enlightenment lives on very well in the way you present history.
My Scottish ancestors The McGowan Family were traded as slaves, thats how they came to America. Thank you for the great information!