The One Cartridge I'd Choose Every Time - Season 2: Episode 36
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- Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! In this episode, I answer your questions about my favorite, all-around shooting cartridge and more!
00:00 Intro
00:52 Hammer bullets for a 280 Remmington and a 280 AI?
08:00 7mm Rem Mag vs 300 Win Mag? I mean, 300win mag has more options for heavier bullets, right?
12:18 What is the best pistol caliber carbine for close-range, deer hunting?
15:52 .270 WSM vs 6.5 PRC? What are the Pros and Cons of each?
20:38 45-70 Rifle featured in the "World's Deadliest Deer Rifle" video?
24:17 Maximum point-blank range, or MPBR, in more detail?
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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Before I watch this vid, I'll say if confined/limited to 1 cartridge, it would be .30-06
1) I'm a Fudd
2) under 100yds, flat shooting enough to be a reliable "brush gun"
3) right bullet loading it works on all game in U.S.
My opinion, anyway
Andy, you're selling the 30-06 short with #2. The 30-06 is flat shooting enough to be a deadly "brush" cartridge to 300 yards. The brush might be too thick to allow this, but the cartridge/bullet can sure handle it.
I don't even know how many guns I have. It's a toss of a coin for me between 30-06 and 6.5x55. I've never had a use for a magnum even though I have a bunch of them 😆.
@@georgemcarthur488 that 6.5×55 is a good round. For decades the Swedes and others used it for everything they hunted in northern Europe including moose.
It isn't exactly left in the dust by the glorious 6.5 Creedmoor which was the unnecessary answer to its ballistic twin, the 260 Remington. (My opinion of course.)
@@slomo1562 it's a beautiful round. I have several '96's. My first hunting rifle was and old sporterized carbine with a hundred year old shot out barrel but still pretty good and shot through any deer at any angle and the tree behind it 😆 with a 156 grain bullet only doing about 2300fps. I put one together on a '98 action with a 25" barrel a few years ago. Velocity wise it spanks the creedmoor and ties the 6.5x284.
30.06
35 Whelen for all the hunting I do . Even in the mountains . 225 grain accubond performs amazing
I’ve hunted all my life in Maryland and love the 270wsm feel I know a good bit about rifles and rounds but I’m always learning something from this guy. Love the channel
12 ga, 22lr, 308, 270 and 30-06 are hard to beat. If you have one of them you can generally find ammo. If you shoot it well even better. I don't get caught up in marketing crwp.
well said mate here in new zealand 303s did the job for years and those calibers you mentioned are or were mainstays aswell, i have a mate with a number 4 actioned 303 with a rare new barrel plastic stock and an old burris on it and it shoots brilliant
12ga 22LR and .308 in one gun cabinet would represent a very universal hunting collection. These three cartridges off the self ammo comes in a great number of options. I have to say I love my 12 gauges and the diversity that the loads gives its users.
Same here have 1 or 2 of all of those including 22mag n 3030 n 20gauge
Savage 220 20ga is better
6.5 PRC beats out 95% of those rifles
300wsm will beat the other 5%
And I did it with 3 guns
Team 7mm rem mag 👍👍
I'm too poor for that ammo. I'll have to get by with my 30-06.
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7mm rem mag👍💪👍
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@@sylviajones3355 the 06 is also great
Ron, it was great to hear you on Joseph Von Benedikt’s podcast. Thank you to both of you for all the work you both have done over the years.
My go-to everyday, all-round cartridge is 30-06 150 grain!👍
Why 150 grain and not 180?
@@cody5631 I could also go with a 180 grain round, depending on the day.
150 grain: 2,910 ft per sec; 2,820 ft lbs
180 grain: 2,750 ft per sec; 3,022 ft lbs
30-06 168-180 grains under 400 yards why do you need anything else if you aren't hunting brown or polar bears?
@@vincew4765 For me, 30-06 must be at least 2,750 ft per sec or more. So the heaviest I'll use is 180 grain rounds, nothing heavier!
I used to be a 150 or 180 grain fan depending on the game but I switched to 178 gr. Hornady ELD-X for all my hunting, and as long as they make those I’ll never switch. They’re as close to the perfect .30-06 cartridge you can get. FYI the recoil is significantly less than Hornady SST 165gr. Or 150gr. SST.
I haven’t found the perfect caliber yet. 3 fun safes full, and I’m still looking!!!😆
Challenging business, isn't it? Keep on trying!
Know the feeling just bought my 3rd safe lol
Try a 30-06 it has worked for me
I'm on the same boat. I have more guns than I care to admit, but ultimately that 30.06 can't be beat. (Love my 204, my 243, 270 WSM love love love that one, 26 Nosler is FAST! and my 375 rum. But, the GOAT M1 gerand!) Is arguably best.
Thank you for your post Ron. Glad you mentioned MPBR. It is without a doubt the most trouble free practice to follow for successful shooting to 300 yards. I have made a habit of setting my impact point at 3" above center with my sporting rifles.
Man! Talk about useful information - this was a very informative podcast! Thank you! I always enjoy your videos!
I have loaded the Barns x triple shock in 270 Rem and the 280 Rem and was very satisfied. The 270 is an absolute tack driver at 200yrds. Harvested a Mule deer at 411 yards.
My favorite round was the .243. I had Winchester Model 70s in .223, .243, and .300WM. They all had the same trajectory. The .330WM beat the heck out of my shoulder, until I had a 24 hole screw on muzzle brake made for it. That was to be my Elk rifle. The .243 was great for anything from varmints to deer.
absolutamente sin entrar en quilombo 223 practica combina con cualquier 243 or 270
Thanks for a great video Ron. I love the MPBR method of shooting.
I have my 338 Win Mag striking 5cm high (2 Inches) at 100 meteres and it will strike 14 cm (about 5.5 inches low at 300metres.
I just point and shoot at anything out to 300 and no need to think about holdover. I still have to think about wind to some degree, but with a 200grn Hornady SST bullet whizzing along at pretty much 3000 fps not so much
Another Great Video with allot of great information!! I'm a 7MM Rem Mag fan and will never change. If it's not broke, don't fix it.
Appreciate your science based explanations and breadth of knowledge. Thanks mucho!
Thanks for the sharing Ron enjoyed it,I like all guns but I shoot the 308 for here in Tennessee that's the do all for me.i put a copper tipped 125 at 2950 it ain't happy day for the critter.
I love my 7 rem mag. I am not afraid to air one out with it
A friend of mine runs a moose/ brown bear/grizz operation out of Alaska. Same as me, and between he and our buddies I will say if a guy who did ANY amount of traveling and could only have one caliber he would most likely want a 7mm just like you said. Or a 300 win mag. Now I’m regards to not noticing animals falling or dying faster with a 7mm or 300wm. That I can add to as can they. The 300’Winchester Mag puts browns and moose down much faster and with fewer shots 70 percent of the time! 7mm has a better ballistic coefficient but 300 win mag wins as an all around rifle. Remember you can shoot anything from 130 grain bullets for stupid fast mule deer and antelope up to 220 grain moose thumpers. Lastly If your a reloader this is where both these calibers shine!!!!!!! Thanks for listening
12:20 - The best Pistol Calibre Carbine (PCC) for close range deer hunting has to be the 10mm. Hi-Point, Extar, P2A Patriot, Grand Power Stribog. You have choices. Hi-Point is the most affordable at about $430 US. The Stribog is maybe $1,500 US. 10mm is good to say, 150 yards, probably even 200 yards and it can take game way bigger than whitetails too...
I hunt everything with an Ithaca 12g upland gun. It shoots foster slugs very accurately at 25-50y. #6 Pheasant loads for turkeys and pheasants and #7.5 game loads for everything else. And it only weights 6lbs. The area I hunt I can’t take a shot past 50y so that gun works best for me. So versatile for my hunting conditions.
Hey! We will not have any of this out of the box thinking here.
Thanks Ron for another great video. 🌿
My dad had the 284 win and I didn't realize it but now looking back what a great caliber
Yep, and if they would’ve put a faster twist barrel, and not pushed it in their lever guns, they’re probably wouldn’t have been all these new fat, fast twist 7’s and 6.5’s.
Ron - could listen to you all day long. Thanks for your content.
Thank you.
Handgun hunters don’t forget about the tried and true Thompson Center Contender or the Remington XP100. Many calibers to choose from that can greatly increase your range! And once again talk about the 280 AI makes me happy Ron. My only regret is that I didn’t give it a look years ago. Great video and keep up the great work. You have opened the eyes of this veteran outdoorsman and forced me to take off my blinders. Thanks!!!!!!
8:04 7mmRM v 300WinMag. I agree with opting for the 7RM as the preferred option, but it would also be a close choice with 30-06 180gr, especially if you dont need the extra down range capability of the 7RM. The 30-06 will be cheaper and more readily available even today.
Watched a video a couple months ago about shooting 30-06 at a mile. It's perfectly capable of 1000 yard plus shots, and unlike the 6.5s actually has enough energy to kill something at that range.
They aren’t in the same category.
Look at winchester accubond lr ammo compare 30-06 to 7mm rem mag 30-06 has more energy out to 300 before the 7mm rem mag slowly catches up. The 30-06 is capable of over 3200 ft lbs of muzzle energy and drop is within 5% of 7mm rem mag out to 400 yards. For the wanna be modern snipers there are much better choices than either of these for extreme long range. For hunters who can manage to get within 400 yards they both will kill anything on this continent.
Great calibers ALL 3! You are 100% spot on. They are all 3 wonderful cartridges w/their own little quirks but I’ve gotta agree w/you on long range with the 7mm! One heck of a round, & it’s downrange ballistics are still fascinating & hard to duplicate even in this modern age. With the ol’ .30-06’, that is most likely it’s greatest attribute, available ammo. Keep shooting & straight my friend!
@@rockie307 No arguments from me my friend! I was raised on the ‘06, raised my 3 sons on it & gonna start my 5-yr los grandson, when the time comes. I’ve got loading data for bullets at 90-grains up to 220-grains. Even if someone didn’t like the old 30-06’, they can’t deny it’s the most versatile caliber we have here in North America. I’ve got a Rem 700ADL, an A3-03 w/Peterson slot, my oldest son got my wife’s late fathers 61’ Rem 742 Woodsmaster, my Dad has a WW II “Smith-Corona”, ‘06, but he’s gotten older & hunting is too much for him now. You are right about those Winchester loads, amazing performance! For it to be so old it’s so much more capable than many of these “here today, gone tomorrow”, cartridges that flood the market every year or 2. At least you & I know what is the best to shoot! 😆
Fantastic explanations. Thank you!! 😺
What I've learned over the course of 50 years of hunting, is that a hunter should always hunt with what they're MOST CONFIDENT with. As for me, I'd pick the 30-06 using a 165 or 168 grain bullet most every time. Of course that .270 WSM launching a 140 grain Accubond is hard to beat.
Loving my winchester model 70 in 270 wsm oh yeah
Most ballistics arguments are mostly ego. So I agree, go with your confidence. All the rest is masturbation.
I gave my 30-06 to my youngest brother. The 270 will carry a decent projectile.
The model 70 is a right purdy tool. Getting a browning this year. Hah, made in the same plant in Japan.
Thanks for answering my question.
Ron, you are so spot on with Maximum Point Blank Range. I got it out of O'Conner's book too and it has served me well over the years. It takes the guess work out and no ranging and dialing of the scope. Sighted a .308 and also a .260 in like that and took deer at 300 yards and then some. Thanks for sharing. Stay well and God Bless.
You are the kind of person with a gun in the forest everyone is terrified of!
I would bet on it that you have made sound shots during hunting seasons and when you by accident stuck the gun barrel in the mud you put your lips on a loaded gun barrel to bow the dirt out.
I have guided many people like you on my hunts in Alaska and seen idiots look at the end of a gun barrel with the gun loaded and take a stick to poke out the mud after a fall.
Thank you from Canada
Very informative, thank you.
I used to tune in my 3030 for 200yds, So it would be good from 50yds up to about 225yds. Shot a lot of deer with that Marlin. Hey Ron, fairly new to your channel, Love it keep it up !
30-30 has taken more game in America than any other
As a solution for handgun with good bullet BC and Sectional Density, I went with the 30 grendal and 300 whisper, in a AR platform pistol, 10.5” barrel, 5 round mag, can be carried locked and loaded in a vehicle and SxS, topped with a pistol scope makes a great combination for Deer or Elk at short ranges, out to 75 - 100 yds
My 270 Winchester has a Nikon scope with caps on it. Not quickly adjustable so I set it up for mpbr. About 2.75" high at 200yds. My 6.5 CM has a scope with exposed turrets, easily and quickly adjustable, and I have a dope chart taped to the butt stock. But I could easily dial that in for a 300 yd shot and just leave it there and be fine. Whatever works for the individual. Thanks for the great video ron.
Finally agreed on the last thing you talked about. Had a Remington 700-30/06. Loaded 165gr. Nosler BT to 2800' per second. A shot group you couldn't put a dime between 3 shot groups at 100yd. Always sighted the gun at 3" high at 100yd. Couldn't miss out 300yd holding dead on. Also you need to explain the old duplex cross hairs with thinner middle hairs & their purpose for range finding.
Plus, copper holds its weight. I shoot 80gr Barnes Vor TX in .243 and have had it punch clean through every deer I have shot with it. That bullet crushes deer, and it is only 80 grains.
I am certainly a fan of the 280 and 280ai
Same. I have several of both.
@@ricktaylor3748 I also have a 284 Winchester which I really like. All great cartridges
@@Canadianhunter I own a Winchester mod 100 automatic in .284, it shoots 1 inch groups. I gave $250.oo for it years ago. I also have a mod. 88 in .284. I know I've killed 68 deer with that rifle.
I can go on all day, I own 73 high powered rifles. Mostly Remington and per 64 Wincheste's. I have several Cooper, one 208 AI and one in 6-5 x .284. I ordered a Cooper mod 52 in .300 Win mag. It takes over a year to get a Cooper.
All mine shoot ½ or less groups.
IMR 4831 is the best powder for the .280 AI. WMR1 is another good powder for tha .280 AI. It was discontinued in 2002.
Luckily, I stock up before it was gone.
BTW will check Borden out for sure, thanks for the tip!!
This guy knows his stuff!
I have a .270 1989 Remington model 700. it's free floated and green Ryonite synthetic. I love it and it's an extremely nice rifle,but almost too extreme . I really like the .243 also but I've never had a 3030 and after getting into black powder I'm somehow intrigued by the cartridge. I've heard so many stories about it and many positive things. Black powder you have to get close to you game and it's a very traditional way of hunting. Same to me with the 3030. Maybe I have to get one sometime. If I can hit with my 54 it shouldn't be an issue with the 3030. I'd just like it in a bolt . It probably won't rip through,but with the bullet weight it has to have a pretty good punch and not damage a lot of meat . 😎
🤔 Yes, I will guess 7mm Remington Magnum! I am glad that you found something that you like! 👍
.308 Win in 165 grain Accubond. Will kill ANYTHING in NA and is good for any plains game in Africa.
Also 150gr superformance sst.
Also easier to find in most countries due to the 7.62 x 51 NATO. Probably the most popular cartridge in North America & Europe.
Agreed
Very well done, thanks for all you do sir. Stay safe and God bless
Thank you Zeke.
I have had big powerful rifles up to 7mm rem mag and I loved them all but my favorite is Marlin 30-30. It is my number 1 go to for any big game animal.
I absolutely love my 7mm Rem Mag - I feel like it is the absolute perfect cartridge for a "do it all" rifle
I grew up with family using 7 mm Rem mags in the Pacific NW and it is a bare minimum for Rosevelt Elk .
I have 26 years of guiding Moose & Coastal Brown bear hunts in Alaska and I did try my 7 mm Rem mag for Yukon Moose with very bad results so even I like the 7 mm Rem mag I have to say it's not a do all cartridge .
@@Lure-Benson Agreed.
For me being a resident of Missouri the 7mm is a bit too much for an “All-Around”, cartridge. While we are seeing massive increases in Feral Hogs, moderate Black Bears & Mountain Lion #’s, they are still rare. MO., Dept., of Conservation have a Elk herd that they are managing currently & just have begun to sell a very limited # of tags, so it’ll be sometime before it’s commonplace to hunt Elk in MO. For me? Taking hogs, black bears & big kitty’s into the mix I still feel that my ole’ .30-06’ will do everything I need & even my .260 Rem w/it’s great penetration would stop most things here. I keep referencing “here”, as I’ve diagnosed w/a degenerative disease of the spine & recently suffered a heart attack so my “Big”, hunting trips are unfortunately going to be a thing of the past. I however still am able to deer hunt & do some predator hunting all locally. All that said, the 7mm Mag., is a great cartridge & can’t really say anything negative about it.
@@scottsozmtns7534 Good hunting mate - and shoot straight!! 👍
@@scottsozmtns7534 I find it a bit funny that you say the 7mm is too much for the game you hunt, but then state that the 06 is what you use. With 168gr bullets , the nosler #8 manual has the 06 at 3002 fps with 63gr of RL22, and the 7mm at 3047 with 73gr of retumbo. There's not too much difference there, so why say the 7mm rem mag is too much, while then shooting an 06?
Hey Mr. Spomer! I just found this channel! I’ve been subscribed to your other channel. Those Barnes Bullets are a blender until they stop.
I worked up a load with hammer bullets for a 358 ST Alaskan . It shoots around 1 inch at 200 yards.
Ron you are a world of knowledge and they are only a handful of people with your knowledge. I hunted the first 20 years with the 30/06 and never thought of another caliber until I was on a hunt with three friends and two of them were shouldering 270 Winchester. We had a great four day whitetail hunt in which we all took game but on that hunt I was convinced that the 270 would take game effectively all the way up to elk. With less recoil so the last 20 years I have carried 270. But I know that they are many better caliber’s but as you say it’s a matter of what and how far your shooting. Thank you for your content and knowledge.
mi like es porque entiende que el 270 es un calibre igual de bueno
esta en todas partes
llevo 30 años sin pagar un laton
I started with MPBR when I was introduced to big game hunting and have always used it, but didn't know it had a name till I started watching your channel LOL.
I use the Hammer projectiles in the 280 AI when I handload for taking elk. They have been more reliable at quickly taking down big game than anything else I have tried.
I had a 7mm Remington years ago and loved it. My problems with is it eats barrels like crazy and it's not enough difference between it and the .270/.30/06 class of cartridges.
With ammo being such a critical deciding factor, the 30-06 would probably win. I was ina big sporting goods store yesterday and they had 4 boxes of rifle ammo. 2-3006, 180, 2-300 win. 180’s. Lots of 223.
Thanks buddy
I already did. 30-06. As Jack O'Connor said, it's the round agaiinst which all other cartridges are judged.
270WSM 👍
Ron Spomer indoors.....
Magnum to me means nothing to me until you get to 308 Norma or 338 win mag.
7mm rem mag was my thought when i read your title! great all around cartridge!
1,000s of Scandawegian hunters are bent double with laughter. Once properly sighted-in, most rifles are more accurate at game distances than their owners. For those who don't have the opportunity to hunt two hundred days a year, flinching is the greatest enemy. The Scandi armies chose 6.5x55 because it doesn't really 'kick' at all - it pushes slowly. Soldiers who were therefore not afeared of the kick shot more accurately. This round will cleanly kill anything you point it at. If you don't think so now, just try it. Beg, borrow or steal a rifle and get it to the range, and thereafter into the field. You will never look back. I've shot a great many other calibres (at the range) and shot a .308 in the field for decades. My change to the 6.5x55 was the best shooting decision I've ever made. For clarity, I seldom shoot beyond (genuine) 200 yards. Most people think 200 yards is 300 yards. I met a guy at the range who called me a sissy for shooting a girls' calibre. He'd brought some damned noisy fire stick, and mega-flinched way through two boxes of whatever it was he was shooting. He left early, and I didn't bother to comment. I've never shot a 6.5CM but I guess my comments would hold good for that round, too.
I’ve never really warmed up to the 7mm Rem Mag. All things beignets equal, (barrel lengths, max powder charges) the 270 can shoot bullets of the same BC and SD at the same velocities as the 7mm with less recoil.
I wouldn’t take anything with a 7mm RM that I wouldn’t with a 270. When I need more than a 270 I step up to a 300 Win Mag launching 200 gr bullets at 2900 fps. That 200 gr 300 WM load inspires confidence.
Beignets. Yummmmm!
strat1080 ---> The problem with your statement is: they cannot be "equal", for a very simple reason. The 270 Win. uses a .277 caliber bullet. The other one uses a .284 caliber bullet. A .284 is bigger than a .277 (at least it was when I was in school back when 😉.) It will not have the same BC & SD.
If you have some extra spending money, you might want to invest in a cartridge information book, such as "Cartridges of the World" by Frank Barnes, or a Lee or Lyman Reloading manual.
The idea by hammer bullets you are describing is old and come originaly from southafrica. Later a guy named Lutz Möller from Germany, who sadly passed away two years ago, pefectioned this idea with his KJG and later with his MJG bullets (Messing Jagd Geschoss). This are leadfree CNC turned driveband bullets. For me the best hunting bullets on earth. By the way i use KJG and MJG bullets for 15 years. Hunted everything from roedeer to eland with it.
Guys get so caught up hitting a target at 300 yards that they miss the deer at 25 yards!
Ron Spomer Insights 😉👍
Ron, the "bigger gun" is for those imperfect opportunities, late in the season... those animals 'been shot at', will flee immediately most times upon contact.
Hey, I think ai understand MPBR now! Thanks!
The 8mm Mauser (8x57) is a great all round cartridge. For lighter game the 30-30 Winchester, for big, dangerous, heavy game then the 45-70 govt is the round.
I'm definitely a 7x57 mm fan but if I need anything bigger I'll take my .280 Rem or 30.06 spr.
To the handgun guy, it all depends on your abilities, your recoil tolerance, your intended game, your expected ranges, etc.
I have to be able to consistently hit an aluminum pie pan in the flat, the center area. When I can't, no matter the distance, I've exceeded my limit and will back up to the point where I can hit it. If that is 20 yards, then that's my limit. If it's 120 yards, that is my limit.
A 40 S&w is my absolute baseline for small deer and hogs while the 10mm is better and a 357 Sig is a decent choice. To me these are capable out to distances beyond my abilities so 40-50 yards is my limit.
Moving to wheel guns the 357 Magnum is my baseline here with 45 LC and 44 mag prefered to it. If you can find one, a 41 magnum is a great option! The 41 will take anything in North America but it's light for big bears in my mind but so are the 44 magnum and 45 LC (others have done it but...). Because the sight radius is longer and I'm more comfortable with the revolver I'll go to maybe 100 or so yards with these.
If you can handle more recoil there are some nice big bore options. Of course there is the 500 S&W and the 480 Ruger. The 475 Linebaugh is a beast! On the lighter side of big you have the 454 Casull which can spit out 45 LC just fine. So you can step down in cartridge and recoil for smaller game. If you step up to the 460 S&W you can run 45 LC and 454 Casull. So elk, moose and big bears beware.
In these big bores what you have are "handguns" that are heavier than a scoped rifle with cartridges which produce more recoil and less energy than suitable rifle calibres but hey! You got it with a handgun.
Another option is the venerable TC which you can scope (you can scope the wheel guns mentioned here too) and use rifle calibres. You can run stuff like a 7-30 Waters, a 44 Rem mag, a 22 hornet, the options are nearly endless.
So... What will it be?
.300 Weatherby
Great thoughts by viewers & Ron. "BEE" Give 44 magnum a serious look in a good lever gun. We have harvested dozens of deer out to 120 yards for a couple decades. 7mm Rem Mag has been my choice for big gun for years. But have only used it on deer 1 time because our deer are so close in woods.
Good stuff
7mm Rem in my Ruger M77 has never let me down...
Me too…. Love it, topped with a Leupold
Well I know he won’t choose 308.
Spoiler
I might, pick it just because of the array of ammo on the shelf.And I don't even own one.
Nothing wrong with that. I've hunted with the fast and furious calibers, but it comes with a price and accesive meat damage. You really don't need velocity more than 2700ft/s - just a good bullet put on the right spot, a sharp knife, good company and the enjoyment of the hunt. Have fun.
(308) Over 100 whitetails DOA
@@tomfouche6995 Tom, that is the perfect response. CZcams only lets me give you 1 thumbs up but I would have given you more if they would let me
I didn’t see videos from ya in a few months. Then I looked and I guess CZcams “unsubscribed “ your channel. Bummer glad to get back on the subscription list 👍
The only long gun cartridges I use are..
22LR CCI 36G CPHP Mini Mag..
6mm ARC 90g CX , 100g Partition , 103g ELDX..
308 Win 165g Partition &175g TLR Edge..
300 WSM 180g Partition & 200g TLR EDGE..
I freaking love my Marlin 1894 Dark Series 357 Mag..
7 rem mag is one of the only magnums I've reloaded for (also 338 win mag) that will give fantastic results with reduced loads.
270 Win
To the guy asking about hammer bullets the cutting edge are also a great option they function like the hammers but load like a lead do to their seal tight band design I’ve taken more than a half dozen bucks since I was forced to use them and they preform great from close range to longe range.
Absolutely. California forced my hand…but I absolutely love how they hit like a bolt of lightning. I got tired of having to take a follow up shot with Barnes.
I like the 35 Whelen !!!
The 7 mm. Remington Magnum firing the 160 gr. Winchester combined technologies silvertip boat tails work well for deer and elk. But for a do it all rifle it's the 338 win mag cause you can eat right up to the bullet holes, and I ain't kidding either. It looks like a punch just went clean thru em using the 200 gr. Hot Core bullets from Speer.
Pistol caliber carbine I’ve only ever heard of referring to a semi automatic firearm. And therefore usually one in self defense calibers
Lots of great successful hunting calipers out there. It is something to note they are all measured against the 30.06.
Totally man!”
The all around cartridge was invented by 1891 in the 6.5×55 Swede that does it all for bigger medium + smaller game or predators from 90gr to 170gr pill with the top SD & BC at 2,700-3,400fps tho 120-140gr is the sweet spot...!
Idea being WHY have more then one main centerfire to try to choose "which one to use" = just one of your various carefully hand loaded bullet's N weights to select for the given task...!
I like your reasoning.
The .270 Winchester 130 grain penny for penny beats anything . 😎
Yes sir, agreed
And the arithmetic on the diameter works out to 7.01mm.
Thus the legendary 7-ought-one was born, almost 100 years ago.
tiene toda la razon, hay rifle en un pais tan bananero como el mio y nunca pague un laton
I've shot almost everything 7mm 270 06 everything but 25 06 and 338 I've killed game with them all my favorite is the 300 weatherby magnum with200 grain nosler partition
Hell yea I love my 7wsm
I have a 7mm-08 for “modern rifle”, for “primitive”, I had MGM make me a 16” 357 Maximum barrel for Thompson G2. And for rare occasions I use a 300 Win Mag.
300 wsm is my go to at the moment. It's a lite gun but doesn't kick to bad.
A 175 grain A Frame at 3050 should adequate for anything in NA. Maybe not as a stopper, but definitely enough killing ability.
You must be a fan NPR radio show Car Talk as you mentioned 'Stump the Chump' that is pretty cool
Good point about the weight retention . I often see guys arguing about how their eldx or Berger in the 6.5 to 7mm having all this sectional density . That vanishes as those types of bullets blow to pieces on game . Then they argue energy transfer …don’t get me started on that topic 🤦♂️
Hey Ron, I've gained a wealth of firearms knowledge from you and I greatly appreciate it. My grandfather passed recently and left me a remington Mohawk 600 in .243. I know plenty (thanks to you) about the caliber but would love more info on the rifle itself (Mohawk 600) as it's been difficult to locate. Thanks, Matt
Matt, the 600 Mohawk is the 700 action in a different disguise. Same basic action and trigger. I think they were trying to capture attention/buyers with a distinctive looking carbine, and it certainly is. The standard M600 carbine had a ventilated rib, 18.5" barrel, bent "dog-leg" bolt handle to place the bolt knob just forward of the trigger, supposedly for faster recycling and/or to make clearance for the shooter's grip hand. Plastic trigger guard and magazine baseplate, internal metal magazine box, beech wood stock. Made from about 1972-79. An earlier version , the Model 600, had the plastic ventilated rib and "shark't tooth" front sight blade. The Mohawk did not. About 5.5 pounds. Short, quick, handy. Sort of the bolt-action answer to the lever-action 30-30s. Fun little carbines eventually replaced by the Model Seven. Enjoy.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast thanks so much Ron. I thought the action looked/felt familiar even if the dog leg bolt was throwing me off a bit. It's got an early 80s Redfield variable optic on some weaver see thru rings. I really like it for rough terrain. Short, light, quick n handy as you stated
They are horrible, you should send it to me immediately for proper disposal!!!! 😆
I believe they made that model in a Magnum model also and pretty sure only two calibres, 6.5 Remington Magnum and .350Remington Magnum. There 18 and 1/2 inch ribbed barrel looked really cool but limited performance of both rounds and neither got picked up in the 700.
7 PRC is my new fave.
New to your in-person stuff, nowhere near new to your writing. That's because I'm nowhere near to new myself! Anyways, I was thinking about Elmer Keith when you were discussing a preference for the .280 Ackley Improved. Elmer wouldn't be happy with you, Ron, but I am! Thanks for fun and interesting videos. Just like your writing!
Ruger 44 mag deerfield is my buddies go to gun very impressed over the years
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Would be the 7x57 for me
the SD of the hammer bullets is another PLUS VS lead of the same weight you may have forgot to mention .
Maximum point blank range, my ballistic calculator on my iPhone figures this out for me. I can set the target area, I use 5 inches, I set my zero and when I calculate my trajectory it tells me yardage at which the trajectory drops out of that 5 inch circle for both short of my zero and beyond my zero.
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