What is Article 16 Authorisation & How Does It Compare To The A2CofC in the UK
Vložit
- čas přidán 5. 02. 2021
- #Article16 #FlyingClub #A2CofC #Good2Go #DroneRulesUK
Start: 00:00 Main Differences: 1:50 Large drones: 7:00 Mid-sized Drones: 8:28 Small drones 11:05 Get Help with Good2Go: 12:50
If you belong to a flying club, you can make use of a whole different set of rules to fly, and some of the rules are surprisingly flexible. So if you're trying to work out which set of rules is the best, between standard UK Drone rules versus the A2 CofC versus the Article 16 Authorisation, then have a watch and see the mists clear.... It's not a competition though; different rules have different pros and cons.
** ** 5% off for UAVHub combined A2CofC + Drone Masterclass bundle: www.uavhub.com/products/onlin...
All Courses: courses.uavhub.com/?ref=f8148c
(use code IANINLONDON for any course)
Alternative Training: I can also recommend UAV8 Ltd, based in the Southeast, who I used for my PfCO. One of the keenest priced training companies in the UK who still conduct training with online tutors via Zoom, with 1-1 tutoring available too for A2CofC & GVCs: www.uav8.co/
I disable mid-roll adverts on my videos to make things nicer to watch.
For anyone that wants to buy me a beer, my paypal is:
www.paypal.me/Ianinlondon1
**Thinking of getting the DJI Mini 2, the Mavic Air 2, the Mini or any
other DJI drone or gimbal? Help me & my channel by clicking through
to DJI or Amazon to look at their offers.
Main DJI store:
DJI: click.dji.com/AJxEzbzp1zm9owY...
DJI Mini 2: UK: amzn.to/2WrneCP USA: amzn.to/3raZW2n
DJI Mavic Mini 1: UK: amzn.to/3r9zOVC USA:
amzn.to/3oYzuqw
Sandisk 64Gb Ultra high speed write / read Micro SD:
amzn.to/2QRsxdg
Useful stuff on my website: www.ianinlondon.com
All my gear: www.ianinlondon.com/gear
And for USA viewers: www.amazon.com/shop/ianinlondon
Affiliate links don't cost you any more but do give my channel a small
commission which helps me buy more stuff to test and review for you.
** The excellent Drone Scene app: dronescene.co.uk/
This is run by the friendliest UK-based drone forum:
greyarro.ws/
NATS drone-assist app by air-traffic control:
dronesafe.uk/safety-apps/
12 Months 3rd party liability insurance for £19:
www.fpvuk.org/membership-bene...
Music in today's video:
A Story Unfolds - Francis Wells - Epidemic Sound - Use the link for a
free trial: www.epidemicsound.com/referra...
Happy flying everyone.... Ian - Věda a technologie
Jump points in video notes and details of the new Good2Go website from Dronescene! Cheers everyone. Ian
That's good health.... Bloody auto correct
@@hardyflight If Ian hasn't responded already, I may be able to help, but your link is a private link, and therefore won't play for us.
Thanks, for the past few days I have been reading different websites but here's explained all in one
Ian you are to be highly commended As a long term member of the BMFA all these new rules had been very daunting and confusing This is your best video yet and I thank you for that
Very concise and well delivered I think the police should use this video for any training they give
The reason for the advantages BMFA members have is our excellent safety record over more than 100 years
Jesus you have a great delivery. Super clear. Just watched another guy try to explain this, came away with a headache. Headaches gone now
Used your discount code...did my A2 CofC with UAVhub and got a 100% pass, thanks for all your information really helped a newbie like me.
Great going 😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice one brother 🙏
Cheers Ian, i learn something new every time i watch one of your videos. :)
Yet another super video Ian, top drawer presentation.
Another brilliant vid Ian. Making perfect sense of the muddle that is the current flying rules. 👍
Out of all the drone channels there are on youtube I find yours the best, most informative and easy to follow. Thanks Ian
Cheers Paul 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Ian, always on the ball :) as an owner of a Mavic mini I'm chuffed to bits, all good news for me :) superb video as always.
Thanks Ian as a newbie I found this really useful. Now a subscriber.
Thankyou Ian for the video and information about the different categories and rules. Yo7 explained it so well. The jump points are handy too for the different drone models. Cheers
Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Found you after a shout out by Sean (Geeksvana)! Glad I did... subscribed.
Excellent video, clear, concise and to the point. Thanks Ian.....
Getting clearer
Thanks Ian
Excellent work Ian. There's a lot of info in that video. Will take a look at the grey arrows app as this seem to be the way to iron out any confusion between the different weights, permissions etc. Good job. And as you say "roll on warmer weather" im getting bored of cold fingers 🤣
Many thanks for the video, I'm with FPV for article 16 and studying for the A2CofC just to add to the knowledge. Nothing wrong with learning. :-)
Such a helpful and well researched video brilliant job
Thanks Ian for another helpful video. I'm so glad I stayed with the Mavic Mini although I don't have to I am doing the A2 C of C and have to say I am learning a lot, I think it's definitely worth doing what ever size drone you have.
It's an excellent course 👍🏻. Glad you're enjoying it. Cheers, Ian
Awsome thanks for this simple easy to understand explanation I know understand when an what rules to follow for all my fpv quads and my mavic2pro dude ur a legend thank you
Thank you Ian, as always a very informative video of information, very helpful. Being a Mavic 2 Pro owner I am taking the additional training, A2 c of c , however just purchased a mini 2...so hopefully i too will be able to fly through all the loops and be legal.
Thanks again for another very helpful vid!
Thanks Ian. A really helpful guide.
Thank you for this information Ian.
Another great informative video. I have watched all of your videos on the new rules and used your recommendation of UAVHUB and completed my A2 CofC. This and the Article 16 put together gives me plenty of opportunities to fly my Mavic 2 zoom.
Yep; having both gives you the most options... 👍🏻👍🏻
Having both is your best bet 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Good info. Thanks for sharing.
Top video.. thanks Ian.. dogs dinner is a great association lol.. I think I am just about getting it all now..
Wish I had watched this before I took my A2 C of C course, recently, with UAVHUB , but to be fair the information was first class and at a price of £79 was well worth the money! However, last year I went to a grey arrows meeting and had to have the FPV UK insurance which cost £20, so I guess I am now covered in most angles to fly my mavic 2 pro. ! Happy flying.......
Dronesky, I've checked out your channel! You should turn on comments as people "like me" will enjoy your footage and the info you provide. It's nice to be able to ask questions.
Thanks Ian. Really appreciate the time you must spend trawling through all the legislation to make it simpler for us all. Well done!
Thank you for series of very helpful videos explaining the confusing rules. Any chance you would make a video about European rules, in countries like France, Germany and especially Austria. Many thanks
Thanks, very helpful.
Thanks for this.
As a hobbyist I fly my Mini 2 for the under 250g and Article 16 for my heavier drones and Helicopters, member of the BMFA and passed the Registration Competency Certificate. Also to add the relegation rules do not apply for after 2023.
Good point 👍🏻👍🏻
so helpful!
Very clear & informative summary! One thing that a lot of sub-250 folks seem to miss is that they need to register for a CAA operator ID and display this on the drone, assuming it has a camera. It's only ones sold as 'toys' and those with no camera that are exempt from this.
Good point. My last few videos on the rules did make this clear..👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
HI Ian another very informed Video from you, thank you regards T J K UK
Thanks Thomas 👍🏻👍🏻
Outstanding
Hi Ian, another excellent and informative video 👍.Couple of quick questions? In order to take advantage of article 16 permissions did you have to be a member of the BMFA before the new regulations came in on 31st December or if you join BMFA today do u still get the article 16 permissions?
Thanks
Regards
Adam
Join FPV and fly under rule 16 also membership comes with 5 million liability ins cover.
FPVUK have produced a very good info-graphic, and worth noting that this isn't restricted to the area around a model aircraft flying club either, but "to any suitable location".
We've effectively not only got our 'bubbles' back but our bubbles got smaller too.
Also I've read that the expiry date for legacy drones does not apply in the A2 category either! Great work CAA!
If you haven't joined a model aircraft association (FPVUK or BFMA for example) do so now!
Hi Ian, could you please cover authorisation zones that pop up on the DJI fly app? Asking for authorization to fly and phone number request? Thanks mate.
It would be nice if you would consider and add a link with the standard Risk Assessments only for a drone flying in a city park, beach or national park.
Another great video Ian...... By the way when we fly in any location as I can click to ignore on DJI.... who will monitor or try fine me?
No one monitors you. :)
Thanks for that buddy 👍👍👍
Fabulous video Ian, thanks for doing that. Something that isn't clear to me after watching your video is whether you can 'pick & mix' rules - if I join a flying club, I can fly under article 16 rules, but can I also fly under easa rules if I want to use my automatic routines? I understand that the distances would revert to easa minimum distances. Could you confirm that please? Thanks again. 😊
I forgot to mention that you can choose which rules are going to govern your flight each time. Which sounds crazy but that's how the rules work.
Great video Ian, I take it being a member of FPVUK means we can use article 16 rules ?
You have to check the tick box to confirm you've read the rules.....
Another useful video Ian, thanks.
I’ve not got much experience in flying drones (started when the mini came out and now also have the mini 2) but I joined FPVUK mainly for the public liability insurance. The new CAA rules currently suit the drones I have but it’s good to know there’s flexibility if I do get something bigger.
I spotted the Good2Go site over on Grey Arrows and I have to agree, it’s such a useful tool, as is dronescene (and the whole Grey Arrows forum really).
It’s nice to see a CZcams drone channel mentioning the GADC, I think more people ought to know about it, especially some of the new fliers posting videos on CZcams without knowing a jot about the drone code.
I get disappointed when I see reckless idiots getting hundreds of views on clickbait videos which reinforce the negative public perception. Most of us just want to get nice videos/photos without bothering anyone in the process.
Sorry, that turned into a rant. Keep up the great work. :)
Always good to get it off your chest 😀👍🏻.
Thanks for the videos Ian. I’ve been trying to work something out for a few days now and even when getting in touch with the CAA I am none the wiser. When you talk about the small drones in this video, you say that commercial work can be done with the mini which is what I have. Do I have to be part of a flying club for that to apply to me or is the fact that I’ve got a flyer ID and an operator ID enough to be able to use by drone for work?
If you have a Mini, then simply fly under standard rules; no membership of a flying club needed.... Standard EASA rules let you fly in towns and right over people with the Mini
@@IaninLondon thank you so much. That’s what I was taking from the website but it’s so ambiguous it’s like it was written by the same team of people who wrote the first lockdown “rules” 🤣🤣
I wonder if you have all three ie Article 16, A2CofC and standard if you can pic and chose which is best in certain circumstances. I am thinking Mini under general needs no risk assessment in any areas but it would under article 16
I forgot to make that clear. The craziness of all this is that you choose the set of rules when you take off and that's it. (Quite how anyone will know which one you chose I don't know but fundamentally when yoo fly a Mini, choose standard; when you fly an Inspire, choose Art 16)
That sounds good to me I am now pleased I have my MA2 and am a BMFA member
Hi there Ian, I was just wondering if these drone rules stack. For example if you are part of a flying club and you have taken the a2 CofC, does that mean you have a 30m bubble of separation and use autonomous flying modes, fly in congested areas etc. Thanks.
No, if you're in a club and want to make use of Article 16, the rules state you have to decide in advance whether you will be flying under Art 16 OR standard rules. You can't combine the best bits from each.
Hi Ian, I dont understand that as soon as you look into these "alternatives" theres this which seems to rule drones out ?
Didn't follow your sentnce. What is ruling drones out?
@@IaninLondon sorry, I pasted some wording that hasn’t appeared but basically it says no multi rotors ?
@@The_Breeze1 That's just for the 'higher than 400 ft' exemption. 👍🏻👍🏻
Passed my a2 cofc y/day 97% same as you Ian thanks for the discount, certainly worth doing and very straightforward setup from UAV... my next question is what computer or laptop do you use for editing your footage ? I’m really not sure what’s best to go for ?
Hey congrats Jono... Good going. Any gaming laptop should be good; you need a bit more RAM and a dedicated graphics card to handle 4k video. Cheers, Ian
@@IaninLondon thanks Ian will hopefully get one soon 👍🏻
Very informative video Ian, I thank you. I already hold Article 16 and I've just completed the A2CofC course, about to book the exam (UAVHUB, thanks for the code Ian). You learn considerably more, in depth, width and your responsibilities, during the A2CofC than the Article 16 training. Article 16 flying depends on the operator/flyers understanding and responsibility to carry out a formal risk assessment when flying over uninvolved people. Holding both qualifications allows you a little additional freedom.
Yep, you get the best of both worlds 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks again Ian ...you mention being a member of a flying club but I assume that being an individual member of the BMFA is essentially the same? I took out BMFA just for insurance really and assumed I also got A16 as well (already have A2CofC ) ... I also thought A16 (from t’internet reading) someone mentioned was only applicable to aircraft without camera’s as well or have I just made that up? I will send you a beer!
You need to confirm you've understood the article 16 permissions 👍🏻👍🏻
What if I have both A2 CofC and being member of flight club ?
Soo all the regulation will all the get combined and I get more freedom ?
this video is nearly understandable nearly on the sub 250 g drone commercial issue
I'm curious about the national Park rules. your text stated for take offs. Here in the states people say that if you stand outside the national park and take off you can fly over it and then you can come back and land as long as you stay outside for take off and landing. Is that how it works in the UK also?
Exactly. You can take off on adjacent land and fly over it...
Hi Ian, thankyou so much for this its a minefield understanding both types of rules. my question is can you combine rules becase im already a BMFA member so if i undertake my A2 c of c does this mean my seperation is now down from 50m to 30m from uninvolved people in residental and rec areas hope you can help , liked and subbed
No, the rules state you choose one set of rules for a flight, or the other.....
So is it possible to join the BMFA and just adopt article 16 for any flight you fancy within those rules or would it only apply for club meetings or organised flights within BMFA clubs ..??
First statement correct; you join, then choose for each flight...
Hi Ian,
Another super informative video, greatly appreciated. One question, and please excuse me if it appears somewhat of a dumb question. I, like you have passed my A2 CofC certification with UAVHUB. Which, gives me a wider scope with my >250 to 2kg drone. Can I assume therefore, that by joining a club like BMFA, or others, that I will be able to pick which rules I need to given the circumstances that I’m in.
Exactly. Sorry I didn't make that clear in the video... You choose 👍🏻
@@IaninLondon many thanks
Thanks Ian excellent video. I have two drones a mini 2 and a Mavic 2 zoom. Can I fly the mini 2 as it is, and then fly the Mavic 2 zoom under article 16? I am a member of FPVUK, or do I have to fly both drones under article 16? I got the mini 2 to fly more local.
You choose the rules each time, so yes 👍🏻
@@IaninLondon Thanks for your help
Hi Ian. Another well put together video. As ever a question! Does the Article 16 apply to you or the drone? Cos if it applies to you, does that mean it gives you greater freedom for you Mavic Pro. But because you have it, you are the more restricted when you fly your Mavic Mini? Obviously in reality, you would just say are following EATA rules if flying Mini. I have to say to, it's just too complicated and a recipe for confusion all round even for law abiding flyers
Sorry I didn't make it clear, you choose which rules you want to fly under when you take off... Yes, that's really the case....
Good afternoon Ian i have my A2cofc just say if i had the Article 16 as well where would i stand then with the like of Yuneec h at 1.9 KG as this my most used Drone .
That's in the sub 2Kg section of the video 👍🏻👍🏻.
Unfortunately even with A2C of C you are still really limited, even with the 50m vs 150m. Even with the 50m it’s often difficult to find a residential or commercial industrial area that is big enough to maintain even a reduced 50m separation. A further problem is that currently the A2 only allows legacy drones up to 2kg since they are not classed as C1and in 18 months (31 Dec 2022) will be back out in the cold with regard to 150m being the limit again. Until the mid sized drones have the C classifications they are not worth buying in my opinion, since CAA will not retrospectively award the C1 classification to a legacy drone.
Thanks for that, I was wondering what happens when the transition period ends on the 31-12-2022 for drones that are over 250 g but under 2 kg even with the A2C of C they will be limited to A3 only if I have read it correctly.
On the Point of Risk assessments I wonder if it is mandatory to write these down or if you just have to do them. Would be nice if there was a simple app that you could use that would record your assesment
The Good2Go app does that to some extent, so I'll be looking into that more. It seems to be written in PHP, so I wonder if the CAA will publish one eventually - they have access to web programming skills, but maybe not the budget.
If Good2Go doesn't fit the bill, as a hobbyist, all I need to do is read a check list. I keep that on in the Notes app on my phone.
If I was doing professional work, the A2 C of C course that I did with UAVHub includes use of the RA interactive spreadsheet from their Resources Library, but that is copyright, so I can't share it. One more reason to upskill by doing the course, but you could put a table in a word doc with two columns: Hazard, and pre-written Actions on/Mitigation, and maybe have a column for a tick-box.to show that you have noted the hazard.
So your table might look like:
HAZARD EXTANT MITIGATION
O/head wires ☑ Spotter
HT o/head ☑ Fly 30m away
Strangers X No fly overhead
Cliff ☑ Check wind + alt
Pre-tick the boxes, then delete the ticks if the hazards are not present and save it for the flight.
If you are good with spreadsheets you could use colour changes in boxes etc... Wow! Yet another lock-down hobby!
hi Ian.. so do you have to be member of the BMFA to use Article 16 to fly sub 250g drone at those distances?
Article 16 is actually worse for sub 250gms; if you're in the BMFA or FPVUK and you confirm the understanding of Art 16, you get to choose for each flight whether it's under Art 16 or under standard rules
@@IaninLondon Thanks 👍 oh by the way Ian I passed the A2 COFC Saturday 100% :)
Hi Ian.
I have the A2cofc and fly the Mavic air 2. I’ve just joined the FPV-UK flyers club. I saw the 30 metres but couldn’t see the 30 bubble (over people) in their info brochure.
Does article 16 apply to all flyers clubs?
Only 4: BMFA, FPVUK, Large Modellers Association and Scottish Modellers Assn, Cheers.
Hi Ian, I agree with Skyfilmer. Could you explain more regarding the 30m bubble. Do we not apply the 1:1 rule? I am about to sit my A2 cofc but also interested in the Article 16 as it would allow more freedom to fly my Mavic 2 Pro. Many Thanks, great videos 👍🏼
Is there an A'Level course on this?.....might as well be!
Niceeeeee
Again.... great video. Very informative.
I'm thinking this wint be the last video you do on the rules as I reckon it's just a matter of time until changes are made to it to simplify it even more as were no longer part of EU.
I can but hope....😉
@@IaninLondon just browsing the good to go link.... I think with the increasing number of drone apps ect that they too can become too many to become to complicated...
@@gmivisualsjason3729 This one is very simple tho and TBH once you've worked out you're usual permissions, you'd just use the main Dronescene site.. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@IaninLondon agreed. :-)
Don't hold your breath...
Hi can I have article 16 and a2 cofc running together although just have mini 2 I will get bigger looking to join british drone flyers and noticed to join you have to tick article16 am I bound to that if I do , I know don't need this just now but confused
Yes as a person, but no as a flight. Apparently toy choose one set of rules or the other for any given flight...
Is it 30 meter bubble or horizontal separation distance under article16? either way these permissions seem to beat the A2 n old PFCO hands down in most situations,
Buble
Article 16 permission seems to beat everything even the old PFCO use to be a 50meter buble didn't it?
Hi Ian. Thank you for this series of very informative programmes. One question I have probably needs a crystal ball, but you may have a take or opinion. I have A16 and will have A2CoC very shortly, I hope. A16 is only valid until the end of 2021 but I have heard elsewhere it may be extended or renewed. Question is, what is the 'word on the street' about A16 from 2023 and onwards?
A16 needs to be renewed each year by the flying clubs and the CAA. It's expected to be renewed but isn't guaranteed.
@@IaninLondon Not like death and taxes then. Thanks for the reply; it's just that I might go on and do GVC rather than buy a new drone.
@@johnowen1831 Just be aware the GVC doesn't actually give you any extra rights; it's simply a prerequisite for you to apply for an actual permission.... The A2CofC does give you huge additional rights.....
Ian I've been using my mavic air 2 with a Samsung a51 android phone. In the last week when I'm flying and I press record and the app on my phone crashes, Lucy I can restart the app and regain control of my drone. I've reset my phone and reinstall the app yet it still happens. This has never happened till the last week. Any import you can give would be helpful. Many thank Alan, and my drone is up to date.
I wonder if it's the low resolution streaming that's causing this? You can switch that off in the settings and you can also reduce the resolution to 720. Try that.....
Will Article 16 still be able to be used from January 2023 when the new classifications come in? If I buy an Air 2S now will I still be able to fly it?
Article 16 needs to be renewed by the CAA and flying clubs each year. It should happen but it's not guaranteed...
As a professional you need a mavic pro 2 for those open areas and mavic mini 2 when you have to in built up areas. Probably best of both worlds and only way to get more out of the regs
Spot on..... :)
Does article 16 not only apply on the flying clubs field? Thanks
No, you can take those permissions elsewhere as long as you follow their rules....
Thank you for that. Just a small question about land owner rules - does it still apply if you hand launch and recover?
Yes, you're standing on their land......
@@IaninLondon I guess that makes perfect sense thanks
Strange question.
@@alannorthdevonuk763 You'd be amazed how often that question is asked though! :)
Is the info on this video upto date as of 08 Oct 2022 Cheers. New to drone operation and working out how all the rules work!!!!
Yes, article 16 is renewed each year and is still in force. Main EASA based rules still in place too. Only change is the transition period has been extended indefinitely at the moment..... 👍🏻
Hi I have a mini 2 do I need any further registration for flying in Tenerife
Andy any info would be appreciated
Excellent video - finally all understood - as a long term BMFA member I’ll probably stick with Article 16!!
You've got it for a year...... :)
Hi I’m a little unclear on that - what happens to club flyers after that? Or is it just a grace period to get A2CofC??
Can you clarify when using Article 16 as a benefit of being a registered member of a model flying club and flying on their field. Is my Article 16 benefit still valid if I go off and fly be it perfectly legally somewhere other than the club flying field?
Yes, but you technically have to choose to fly under Article 16 rules or the normal rules before the flight. (ie to the risk assessment etc)
@@IaninLondon Thanks for your answer. I would always be mindful of where I fly. It would always be out in the countryside. Assuming no other restrictions.
This is really putting me off flying with all these rules and regulations. I started this hobby because I liked the freedom of flying & photography in a very safe way but it now seem that all the fun is getting sucked out of this hobby. It seems to me that someone is making money out of this hobby and it not me it’s very sad 😔. PS I’ve got a Mavic air 2.
Hi Ian remember me lol made a mistake and want to come back (re subscribe) been watching and you are on the mark, very impressed. my mistake .... bad day shall we say.?
I do my best to answer most comments where u can. Glad.to have you back 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@IaninLondon glad to be back Ian sorry mate, great video you put out lost your drone lol. done the same myself, Mavic air 2 into the lake district. ho well lets start again haha. lesson we both learned
I ian a bit late on this
So i have a2 cof c and now joined fpv uk to hopefully use art 16
Not sure if a couple of things
risk assesments do you do one in your head weighing up pros and cons of flight in a built up area
Or is thete a form you must fill in cannot seem to get my head round it
2 got all the paper work on my phone so anything else on this matter thanks john
You'd have to check with the flying club, but I believe you'll need a copy, eithe paper or electronic, to show if asked. (Unsure who woudl ever ask you tho!)
@@IaninLondon thanks i think this area needs a video as you are top man for explanation
This is were i am on subject
I have flown model rc and drones for severa yrs so exoerience and flown paramotors for 10 yr not now tough
I worked as a dt technician in a secondary school and had to write risk assessments for every machine we used in the workshoos maybe 20 thats no problem
So wat i can see doing in article 16 with the fpv uk club i am with now and amavic 2 pro flyer is i decide to go out for a run in car wth my drone find a site someware never been before is check for nfz and motamas
Scan area look for risk
If its low risk fly if its high risk two nany people pylons tight area to kand some one strays up to you etc etc then dont fly as the risk would be not worth it
Surely you would not before a flight in a new place sit down and write a 15 min risk assesement out to show you have done this if pc plod comes
Fact joining a club and having experience passing a2c of c etc
should say you are a competent safe flyer
Sorry for it been long winded but i do think it needs addressing
All your stuff is great by the way and your flying are is fantastic streight on to feilds
Keep uo the good work
Thanks barnsley john
I know that most clubs have a template so you can save and part fill in advance, and only complete the elements for that day.... For me, I do risk assessments in my head but I don't fly under article 16 at all...👍🏻👍🏻
@@IaninLondon thanks ian
Sent fpv uk a message about this risk assesment and they sent me a form thats generic so all you do is fill details of you and your id number wat drone and leave off the park untill day you fly
Photo copy a few so then if you save them in a bag etc on the day of a flight you could just pencil in the date and park
If no issues then re use
So if plod were to come to you
you have a some paper work a bit like a driving licence lets be fair they would not no the rules in the first place and as always been taught be polite try and explain stuff to them and say please and thankyou and i am sure that would be ok thanks for your reply again ian and lets see sum more fpv with ya new drone
Out of interest. If I was asked to take a few wedding photos by the couple getting married and permission from the owners of the venue. (Venue out on its own in the countryside) Would I be legal to do so with say a dji air2s or only with the mini 2? Thanks Ian
Out in countryside you're fine with larger drones.
I am a member of FPVUK for Insurance etc... but I hope that means I don't have to fly under Article 16 rules only ? I only have a mini 2. 😕
You choose when you start a flight.... Stick to standard rules 👍🏻👍🏻
dose anyone have a standard risk assesment template for flights under article 16 ?
It would be nice if there was a little App you could use for this
Fun, ain't it? Great explanation.
I am now done wiht rules.......... 🤪🤪🤪
@@IaninLondon Well you can definitely be proud of this explanation, you must have spent hours and hours on it, and everyone will appreciate your hard work.
But the great thing is that the UK's CAA has come up with a set of rules for all occasions which - whilst admittedly complex - is better than that of any other country in the world as far as I hear tell.
Obviously die-hard libertarians will disagree, but the CAA has given us loadsa freedom and is knocking LA overreach on the head on our behalf. When did any other government agency ever do that?
@@lindsayheyes925 Very true! I think once the new models start being sold with the numeric classifications, it will be a huge change and we will really appreciate the new freedoms we get with these new rules... Cheers as ever for the good words! :)
Say if you are flying a Mini 3 at say 20 to 30 metres high in a large park and some one who (is on their phone) does not notice and walks across a little used path under it? You of course will be VLOS ing and do not notice them until you play back the card? The one or two people I have met, dog walkers (they turn up every where) in a little used wide boggy area seem curious not annoyed.
So, looking at Article 16 of the BMFA Point 6 - Where can I fly? A flying club site or "not a built-up area" or if you are inside a built-up area, the flying site has to be ONLY used for recreational purposes i.e. a playing field etc. I don't think the reduction to 30 metres from uninvolved people makes up for the fact that flying inside a built-up area still has restrictions as to where you can fly from. What if there is no site "that is only used for recreation purposes"?
I'm just outlining the rules so you can decide what's best for your situation..... 👍🏻👍🏻
@@IaninLondon Yeh I get that and I'm not criticising. Your vids are the best.
Does that mean i can take the air2s to norway and fly using article 16? Apparently FPVUK claim the insurance is valid there
You would need to check if Norway offer the same article 16 exemption, which I doubt, as it's a UK CAA agreement with UK clubs.
@@IaninLondon apparently easa are aware of article 16 but cant find anything concrete
فيديو رائع جميل جدا
شكرا لك
Ring ring ring ring alo is that the bmfa sign me with upmost haste my good man.....
Well done sir to my my knowledge your the only sage on CZcams that mentions fix wing. I shall open a bottle of spitfire and toast your food health
Brian
London
Thank you kind sir...... :)
It would have been helpful to compare with PfCO holders.
I originally thought about that but it got too complex, and fundamentally PfCO permissions remain in place for you but if you don't have one, you can't now choose to get one as PfCOs are no longer offered.
your video at 5.21 min you say sub 25kg drones with artical 16 can fly a bubble of 30m distance can fly over uninvolved people. But on the drone scene good to go website with the mavric 3 a 859g drone cannot be flown over people even if you hold an a2cofc or artical 16.
Yep. Without article 16 you cannot fly over uninvolved people at all, even with A2COFC. With article 16, you can fly over people, as long as it's recreational or open area only, and you're not closer than 30 metres (bubble) from anyone. It gives the right result for that scenario. 👍🏻
Yeah got it now. 👍
They never make it simple do they? I’m 25 going on 70, in the 1970s 80s 90s I used to fly fixed wing aircraft and was a member of SMAE, I used to build models for “Galaxy Models” here in Suffolk! We had a lovely flying site and after a short time we got kicked off the site by the local council as it was where they deposited the towns waste collections due flammable gases escaping from the dump! and we were then without a site! For me and some of my buddies was the end of our fun weekends meeting up and having a good time! Flying our models!
But now I’m flying drones and now this is becoming more difficult, I understand that there has to be rules etc,and safety is paramount!
At the moment I have a Mavic mini 1 and the mini 2, and that I can basically fly these two almost anywhere I wish.? I also have the Mavic Pro ( my first drone) that I can now fly out in the countryside away from anybody and dwellings? If I join SMAE would I be allowed to the same rules of the two minis? Just a thought Ian. I’ve paid my £9.00 to the CAA and passed the test, my drones are now marked with reg numbers etc! Keep up the good work Ian and looking forward to your next Video! Take care.
Just fly when no one's about 😉👍🏻
@@IaninLondon 👍❤️
Houston, requesting take off for a little spin around this building, over.
These rules are getting out of hand, we're not going to the moon people. This ain't Nasa, that's why I ditched all my big drones except for my new Mini 2 and an small Hawk Fpv.
Maybe I should buy an astronaut suit and stand in the middle of the city flying 😂
I thought Article 16 was the ability to fly a drone in Northern Ireland with Ursula von der Leyen’s permission 🤔🙄😊?
Yes,.............. Moving swiftly on! 🤣🤣
I'm going to avoid Bill Tupareaz,especially if he flies a drone near to property !
that drone scene app isn't great....pretty vague to say the least
If nothign else it overlays the Airspace restrictions in a simple easy to use format.....