This Will Be The END OF DJI MINI 4 DRONES - TOUGH LAWS / DJI BEING BANNED ON WAY?
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Spot on
One thing I don't have yet (as a relatively new drone pilot) is a good piece of software for post-processing my videos and pictures - something that I could plug the Luts into, for example. Might you be able to suggest a few software products with robust features that'd be at that "highly enthusiastic noob" level? Thanks! ~Ray
Your spot on Darren, they make me sick the way they go on. Like a lad said before, the CAA should just put a blanket law on these auditors. There just out for an argument and for viewers to watch and like them. STOP THE AUDITORS NOT THE GOOD LADS who want a drone to take stunning pictures like yourself. I haven’t followed yourself to be stopped by these idiots. I watch to learn and bide by the laws. No drones should be aloud over prisons, airports, police stations, industrial working areas, and offices. You don’t need pictures of these places.
You are correct but also so wrong at the same time, your frustration needs to be elsewhere not on those exercising their rights and evidencing how quick people moan about everything.
As long as those individuals have a license, insurance and are not doing anything actually wrong then they are well within their rights to fly over a biscuit factory if that's what interests them or their audience.
The problem we have is we are living in a time where our freedom's are being taken away not by so called auditors but by the Karen's who don't care if you are well within your right to do something they don't like it so they will ruin it by demanding the law is even more stricter.
The solution is to increase fines for people that waste police time.
Make the law require you have a CAA pilots license to buy a drone and to fly the drone via software checks. It's not hard to API the drones controller with the CAA and validate the pilot before take off.
Also every flight is recorded and saved to cloud.
@@srjwari you have solutions, let’s get them into practice!!
I took my Mini 3 Pro out to Santorini last week, I didn't fly it once, too close to the airport, didn't want to upset people on the beach, too windy... too built up, didn't want to spoil the sunset for others, whatever, no regrets, sometimes, you just have to pour a beer and realise there are times when you need to chill.
Absolutely. Have a Spark and just upgraded to Mini3. 2023. Here in the US, drones are forbidden in National Parks, so I comply. I take pics for personal use and satisfaction. If there's people around i don't fly or I ask if it is ok with them. And I never fly directly over people.
Sometimes I just use my handheld cameras.
Same…
Spot on I've done exactly the same.@@darylsj3404
Its easier to buy a gun and LEGALLY use it the same day than it is to LEGALLY fly a drone the same day it’s purchased . How does that make any logical sense at all .
@@AL_my_PaL87guns are much more useful and necessary
Well said mate, I bought my drones because I'm disabled and was always at home. Now I go too places and film the things that I would never be able to see due to my spinal injury. It's even made my depression not seem as bad because it takes my mind off it for the time I'm out and also editing the footage.
I'm in the very same boat as you are my friend...😕
Definitely brother, I'm stuck to a dialysis machine 4 days out of the week ,Drones are outlet.
Spinal injury from 2011 here, and I am with you on that. Drones let me see the world I thought I never would
I became an Altruistic Kidney Donor in 2019 and its the greatest thing I've ever done.
Yo, play red dead 2 its amazing!
Sadly, the so-called public servants have completely forgotten that they are public servants and work for we the people.
..Blessings
Does that mean they should allow people to violate CAA rules?
Finally I see a person making a video that shows the issues with people using drones that it's not the drones that are the problem. Irresponsible use is the drone problem, people who enjoy flying and getting great footage shouldn't be looked down upon. I have a phantom 4 pro and a mavic mini and I've never got a complaint
Well said. No matter what hobby you have it’s always a few idiots who spoil it for everyone else.
exactly, notice these people never use Mavic's or Air's. The biggest advantages of the Mini drones will soon end
@@DMProductions I seriously hope they bring
@@HauntedXXXPancake no need for the license- many won't even comply. Just punish the offenders and spare the rest
A few??? much to manny noobs allround the world. (sadly)
That's some straight up CCP talk.@@HauntedXXXPancake
Well said. It’s a symptom of a much larger problem. That problem is a lack of respect for others and plain old common decency…
The problem is not a lack of respect as such. It is a desire to piss people off and get some thumbs up and thumbs down. Both are satisfying to those idiots.
Same thing happened in the early 80's when CB radio was legalised in the UK. The muppets with no respect, ruined CB radio in the UK.
@@George-nt8uw Lets just sum that all up with the general ignorance of the messes and intolerance of others rights while in public.. yet are filmed 20-30 times daily by others... photography is not a crime!
I agree. I carry a drone on motorcycle trips to get footage of remote areas and give a new perspective on the area.
But what I see near where I live are people taking drones to spy on pools, fly over boats, fly over people in public parks, all sorts of really bad behavior. And yes it will impact us all.
The few irresponsible people are ruining it for all who want to follow guidelines and usage rules.
I agree. I live in Wales, with the Brecon Beacons down the road. Flying over a factory or building never even crossed my mind.
Excellent video and I hope the day never comes when consumer drones are banned completely. Every point you made is 100% valid and thank you for highlighting these issues and actually doing something constructive by posting and sharing this video.
Can we all please stop using the Gatwick Airport thing as an example in our videos? There was never any drone at Gatwick. Some good people are currently working hard to get this information out in the public, but it would appear as though the authorities are making it hard to obtain the (what should be) publicly available records. It was discussed in depth on the Drone and Sundry channel recently.
Almost all of the stories of drones shutting airports down or causing some issue wasn't a consumer drone. The media knows they can get more attention with BS headlines about malicious activity with drones. Then you have governments looking for more power using the BS stories to push regulation. There are always going to be stupid people doing stupid things, doesn't mean the governments need to regulate more. Imagine if our PCs were regulated more because a couple bad seeds can do naughty things with them.
+1 perpetuates the myth that fuelled the press agenda to ban drones
this actually caused me to have to be diverted to paris and held for 8 hours with the rest of my flight. it was one of the most terrible experiences traveling, EVER 😂
@@FourSounds Not in any way doubting that you were diverted and that is truly irritating. However a quick google gives "No culprit or evidence of drones was found; some commentators have suggested there was no drone, and that the incident may have been caused by mass panic. Police maintain the incident was a malicious attack." and also "There are no known photographs or videos of the drone, and authorities have no official description of the drone" - so really I'd say it was debatable at least, certainly unproven.
@@drumid1881 all of the reported sightings were debunked as sightings of the police drone too
You can absolutely fly to the very edge of what the law allows, but they need to remember that laws can easily be changed. And those with power or money came more easily have laws changed when they are annoyed by something (even if it is legal)
It must be sweet to be able to change laws just because something annoys you, you want to tax people more, or to protect your own corrupt power base.
Why do we tolerate such organized crime?
Then........disregard the laws.
@@terryholmes8546then accept consequences
It won't be the complainers who push this over the edge. It's Amazon and those few companies who want commercial drone delivery who are pushing to ban DJI.
Yup. Its lobbyists that will ruin everything t
Why
@@IpresentClipsso THEY can fly their own drones without competition.
??what?
It's because the rulers see how they're being used in Ukraine
Great video Darren, people need to know how and why it's going wrong for safe and considerate flyers 👍
I can’t agree more what have you said. After being gifted with a mini 2 on Christmas of 21, I learned the laws when flying a quad under the recreational exemption. Took the TRUST test and never bothered people with the drone. It takes a couple of people to ruin for all of us.
Absolutely agree! I was watching a drone video this morning where a person was harassing a lady on the beach who truly did not want the intrusion. The person was flying the DJI Avata drone which is nimble and quick. The lady was throwing things at the drone trying to get it to leave her alone. I commented exactly what you were saying about the causes for stricter drone laws on the video. So sad. People can be so inconsiderate!
Laws already exist that make that type of activity illegal. Since the individual operating the drone clearly didn't care about laws, any new laws would have ZERO impact on stopping someone intent to abuse a drone illegally.
@@robainscough wasting your time trying to explain the obvious to numptys!
Seattle has banned the flying of drones within city limits unless you pay for a filming permit every single time you take off and land. It's unconstitutional and they can't do that. The F.A.A. needs to push back on municipalities who encroach on their jurisdiction!!! NOW!
They’re just embarrassed at what their city has become.
I fly legally in Seattle all the time for free.
how can they reinforce it?? If the FAA allows, it you go and have fun!
@@RedStyla unfortunately, fun means different things to different people.
Thats crazy!
It’s super frustrating that the actions of a few could ruin it for the rest of us. I try very hard to fly where no one even notices the drone and I follow FAA rules and am always on the lookout for helicopters because the last thing I want to do is create a problem.
Where do you draw the line between professional drone and toy. They can't ban kids playing with toys.
@@matlockmeat In reality, they already have. Even little kids that fly toy drones outside have to have a TRUST certificate in the US.
@@frankmoreau8847 that's pathetic.
I don't think it has anything to do with "the actions of a few" - it is a national security concern because they are a Chinese company operating things that can spy on people and places. I love DJI and their products but if you are an honest person you have to admit there is huge potential for these things to be misused by the Chinese government, who are not very trustworthy so when they say "oh we aren't using DJI's data for anything" it's kinda like, yeah sure. That is the issue. I wish this wasn't the case because I don't want to give up my drone and I love some of their other products too, but I don't know how to solve this problem.
@@matlockmeatThat’s easy. A kid playing with a drone doesn’t have any need for a 4k, fully gimballed camera mounted on a GPS guided, subject following, fully technology-based drone. That ain’t a kid’s drone. Don’t think that handing the controller to your kid and claiming that they were just playing, is going to be a valid defense.
Great idea! Takling about this kind of behaviour 🤙🏼. And you are absolutely right, there will be and has been, that small popularity of people who just need some “action” in their life. Making it difficult for the rest of us.
No doubt that more laws/restrictions will come. But the drone has also become to stay.
We even have drone racing leagues! And the RC world is expanding rapidly with it.
This needed to be said. Thank you!
Amazon wants consumer drones out of the air space which they consider to be there. And they want to make sure that consumers can’t compete with them for Drone delivery which would be very easy without banning consumer drones. It has nothing to do with safety, and like the FAA here in the US they are having people in the UK fill out forms not because they have any intention of changing their minds, but to get an idea of how many of you are out there. Once just as they did here in the US they know how many of you there are, and that the base is relatively small. They will go ahead with everything that they intend to do. this is where we were a year or two ago, thinking that we had made an impact when we didn’t even make a dent. Now remote ID in the US begins next month in September and it will be official.
Politicians need to be confronted about their partnership with companies like Amazon and Walmart and UPS and FedEx! It needs to be confronted and even if it is it may not do anything. But that is the reason these rules are coming up and he has to go is to have consumer drones removed from the airspace. In fact, DJI is now releasing their own delivery drones, and guess what they’re not allowed to be sold in the US! 🤔 Gee, I wonder why? Look for the same result to show itself in the UK. Again, it has absolutely nothing to do with safety or concerns of voyeurism! Amazon and Company’s like it which are part of a group called the commercial drone alliance they have the money to influence. Politicians knows exactly what’s going on over here in the US. In fact, a US drone company called Skydio reset Lee got out of the consumer drone business all together. Completely alienating everyone who bought their drones. Gee, I wonder why? Politicians or the government are using safety as an excuse to get DJI drones in eventually all drones used by consumers out of the air space that they want to use for themselves. Don’t fall for it!
I been flying drones since Phantom 1(yes I had the phantom one🥳) and the things you point out here is so on point. There are a few people who ruins for everyone, witch is very annoying! And sadly, it takes away the fun of using this amazing camera gear!
Good video
agree, how many fatal accidents do drones cause compare to car accidents, or gun use? why not band all cars? all guns, right? No, wrong reasons
Definitely had the phantom 1 also. Huge change from than to now for sure
@doobtom271 that's because we have idiots flying them over towns/city centers and highways.
Amen brother! Preach! I really enjoy your work!
You are absolutely right about the problems these 'audit warriors' could cause the drone community. They cover their faces because they don't have the balls to stand by their conviction. If their only interest in life is to get a rise from a bored security guard, they are very sad individuals. They are a scourge on our community and they should be exposed.
Should security even RISE to these individuals if they are carrying out a lawful activity in a public place? Surely they are employed to work on private land….and that’s where their jurisdiction ends.
I think it's about making money, if youtube stop montising this kind of behavior, they would stop. But they also highlight the illegal actions of SIA security breaking the law by not wearing their badges openily. One auditor found a illegal drug warehouse in essex, so they can do some good sometimes, but I know the exception doesn't't make the rule.
Because the system is out to get anyone showing real truth and a drone throws a wrench to hiding the evidence of whatever evil crimes they commit... you people are just lost thinking these rules are a good idea.
@@Garciaragethat is censorship.
You do it in one area you don’t like, it will eventually spread to the areas that you do like.
The thing is that flying RC models has post WWII been a significant component in the education of many future Pilots. The rise of hobbyist Drones , and a rich commercial drone industry, seems set to ensure that hobbyist drone flight will also be a component in the development of competence for that industry, and also for governmental and regulatory applications. The hobbyist path *must* be allowed to flourish as it is such an important substrate.
I agree but those operating drones must also respect the rights of others, hence the need for regulation.
@@barrylenihan8032 So I should say: "The responsible hobbyist path allowed to flourish ...." 🙂
@@barrylenihan8032 that is the classic _”security versus freedom”_ argument.
We should not get in the habit of being government stooges.
@@willia3r True, but unfortunately the few who do not respect the rights of others gives rise to the need for regulation. Also, irresponsible usage around airports needs to be stopped, and that requires regulations. That's the nature of the world we live in.
@@barrylenihan8032 If usage near airports is already prohibited, what additional rules are necessary? To me, it just seems like an excuse to enact more regulations.
I personally don't think they'll ban drones right out just add a license which anyone can get and then do a point system if u get x amount of points your band from flying especially if remote id comes out
Sadly more than just a license is needed. In most places you need to get a permit for a specific day/time weeks or months in advance. That permit usually requires including insurance coverage for minimum $1,000,000 on upwards. The restrictions (regardless of one's registration, license, and part 107) essentially make it cost prohibitive to operate a drone legally. That's how they are going to kill legitimate drone usage by making it cost the operator $$$. Ultimately all these restrictions will really do is kill off those of us that want to abide by the laws leaving those that don't care about laws to flourish and continue with the drone flight abuse. I have a Mini 4 Pro under 250g and it's potential to hurt anyone or any structure or vehicle is close to zero (collision sensors would prevent it).
A pal of mine , a professional photographer let me use his drone, a mavic 2. The ability to take stunning aerial footage blew me away and I purchased a mini 2 within 4 weeks. Despite the amount of rain we've had (usually on my days off) I've managed to take some awesome shots of beautiful scenery.... why would anybody want to take footage of a factory? It's beyond me!
Well said I couldn't agree more thanks for sharing.
Might be worth letting people know of the CAA consultation that closes 7/9/23…. Raises all sorts of concerns for hobbyists including I.D. And classification systems… good to hear your thoughts on this too Darren. Keep at it.
This Consultation is just a formality. They ARE working towards outright recreational BANS!
@@aloeisthestuff9622only if people bend over for Government Daddy.
The current Government is already hated by a lot of people.
I think if people keep piling on the rage and really go at their representatives, the government will relent.
Or collapse. Latter which is fine by me.
A corrupt government that doesn’t serve the people, is one that no longer deserves to exist.
Glad you brought up this topic. I've faced similar instances in photography where some idiots have tried doing fancy stuff at locations and thus resulting in a complete restriction for the rest of us. If only people would stop doing things for cheap publicity on social media, we can reap the benefits of technology.
May God give them some sense!
I don't know if it's for cheap publicity. most of these people its their jobs, I work in Forensic mental health and believe me that can be a very dangerous job but these nuisance CZcamsrs get paid a lot more than I do.
Maybe some of these rogue CZcamsrs are controlled to push the narrative, remember Gatwick
This is so apt, you just got a new subscriber sir!
Yes, I agree with you. Due to the mistake of a few idiots creating drone content that shouldn't have resulted in regulations being tightened. Thanks for this video. Greetings from Indonesia.
I don't understand the absence of sense in these people but I do understand their premise. In the big picture, the community has to shun this type of behavior and press the importance of restraint upon them..
I was going to buy my first drone. However having seen the recent questionnaire from the CAA, it seems clear to me that they will place severe restrictions on drones or ban consumer drones outright. I'm not going to spend my money on something I'm likely not going to be allowed to use (I'm sure if they ban them, the government won't be paying compensation either).
You just accept your fate? How sad.
The problem is corrupt government, it is the root of all our misery.
If you change your mind you can download my drone next year and print it in secret.
I bought my drone for aerial footage and landscape shots myself, and these new and upcoming restrictions now do also limit me, though I still enjoy having the option of getting shots not many would be able to.
Great information on why the laws are getting more crazy!!! I just got one for the great outdoors!
This is the best ever advice I ever heard - about playing copyrighted media in case you notice some characters annoy people for social media likes. Thank you!
Well said on all other topics and there will always be few bad apples that spoil the fun for the rest of us.
You do realise there is an ability to mute . . .
and provide an alternative sound track.
My DJI Mini3 Pro does video but there is no sound option when recording.
@@glengarant3067 Yeah because there isnt one for the camera drones like the Mini 3 Pro. DJI had it at one time on the DJI FPV and possibly some early Mavics with the addons but im not sure about that one. Why they dont have it is crazy to me.. I have an Avata and O3 Air unit FPV's and i would use the DJI Footage now if it had Audio to mix in with the music but they dropped the feature on the "newer" O3 air unit which really just has a better camera and a better processor chip with more features and could of definitely been made to even just record the Audio to the Air Unit/SD card itself. If they didn't want to transmit it wirelessly anymore to the Goggles to get Live Audio with headphones plugged into the goggles. The original DJI Air unit & DJI FPV can do it so its really just a shame..
drones don't record audio all you would hear is the motors/propellers
In Poland, drone laws are handle realy good. You need do get free lincense (compliting online test), then you have to use special app to get permission to fly it in diffeent zones (poland is splited with many difrent drone zones with different regulations). If you want to fly in more restricted zones (for example cities) you have to get more linceses (they cost around 100-150 usd so they are quite affordable). This system works amazing. If you breake any zone law you may get fined or even put into jail.
Nice! Poland stays ahead of the curve
It should be like this in the states
Great point.
Too many other comments on here seem to be begging for _”Government Daddy”_ to _”regulate”_ them more.
Borderline masochistic behavior, if you ask me…🤨
I thank you for making this awareness video to educate the educated idiots. You mentioned about laws getting stricter in some countries but here in Europe we adhere to EU rules to register our drones and we have map apps which alerts us about no flying zones which we must avoid. We don't have any issues flying drones anywhere if we are legally allowed to fly the drones and have the requirements of FOCA duly fulfilled. To fly drones in non EU countries I would need to get the required permissions before I can take my drone with me but then not all countries have the drone map apps available.
What is annoying is the amount of people driving around in a car with NO insurance and tax or MOT but the law is tougher on a drone's that has the weight of a cup holder . I have a licence for flying my drone and nothing will stop me ! be responsible when using a drone
Well 😂 I agree with what you say. I was flying yesterday and heard a group of people saying how annoying drones are whilst out walking. I found it quite amusing when I coughed, and she saw I had my mini 3 in my hand. They came over, and I explained that it wasn't the drones' fault, it didnt get their by itself but the inconsiderate pilot.
Had a nice chat and showed them my footage, and they left with a clearer understanding of the conduct of a responsible pilot.
In Japan it’s been strict from day one. The dji mini2 was about the only decent drone that didn’t need registration (it was under 200g with the Japanese market batteries-15 minute fly time🙄). But now all drones need registered. It’s fairly easy to register but a pain.
Dont register and fly in places without people !! Nobody ever gonna anoying you !!! If you register you can be traced and you lose privacy !!!
People are cowards and don't dare oppose daddy government. Sad but true.@@gvibes69
@@gvibes69you can be tracked without it. They have technology that already tracks drones. Unless you build it yourself it can be tracked without remote id
We've recently bought a mini drone. My background for many years has been flying R/C gliders/sailplanes. When drones started to be popular and occasionally there were stories of people abusing the then regulations many in the none drone community said that the few will spoil it for the many and the knock on effect would not just be drone flying. And so it has come to pass. The few have spoiled it for the many, the tragedy being many of those have found a new shiny thing so it no longer involves them, the rest of us though now carry the burden. 🙁
No laws have changed? Nothing wrong with using a drone within the law, which is what this guy is moaning about
I completely agree and I am okay with people racing the prices of drones and requiring licenses to filter out bad pilots. Although the permit process for most countries does need to be easier for people who do have licenses and are willing to go through the process.
You're completely right, mate. I hope more and more people from drone community will understand this.
I think it has more to do with DADDY government wanting money/control, while using the usual sales pitch of safety.
I think you need to work out your daddy issues in private.
I Agree 💯 Percent.! 🤔
Very well spoken! I couldn’t agree more. It’s such a shame when a few misbehave and ruin it for everyone else.
I don't think it matters, the regulation is going to come regrdless of the auditors - see my post above.
man you are so correct.....there are a ton of people who are making it tough for the rest of us. Yes they may be legal but they are trully opening the door for big brother to regulate even more. Great content and keep it coming!!!
Someone with a camera has terrified numpties for years, now you have a flying camera it is like their worst nightmare. Mentality has to change first.
I work in a real estate office in the USA. During a meeting last month, several other drone pilots were complaining about Remote I.D. whereas I am in full compliance. One of the pilots even bragged about exceeding altitude limits. I told them they needed to start obeying the law. They laughed.
They rightly complain about real id.
When it comes time for downsizing I wonder who will be let go first.
I’m seeing the same thing happening to the e-bike community too. Prices went down dramatically, huge increase in people buying e-bikes. People not following the laws and being idiots, running through stop lights and stop signs, driving on the road when you’re not supposed to or driving on the sidewalk when not supposed to (check local and state laws) it’s literally the drone situation all over again, a few bad apples ruining it for everyone else.
I haven't seen one e-bike rider conform with the law. No comparison to the drone community.
I have a drone and a e bike, both are being regulated either local ,state or federal regulations. I understand why just wish things were different .
Drunk man made a commotion on Main Street. We must ban alcohol!
You have fallen for the oldest excuse in the book.
The problem is the excessive laws, not the people enjoying their freedoms. If someone harms someone else then the law should get involved, up untill that point MYOFB
If someone does something illegal it should not matter what tool they used. And you can't stop crime by banning tools.@@bv6788
Idiocy ( is that a word?) is a worldwide problem ....good for you taking the time to address this issue on behalf of respectful hobby and commercial pilots everywhere. I'm, saddly, not sure if anything other than ignoring them can be done though. Sometimes stupidity seems to be more common than common sense and they seem to thrive even on negative attention. It doesn't help that there are so many other idiots who love to watch the drama they create.
The music counter-attack is actually brilliant.
I agree with you buddy is sad to see people fly irresponsibly and ruin it for the rest of us
Don’t the CAA make the rules? If you’re flying within the rules then there’s not much a pilot can do if someone else is going to get upset or think they own not only the land but even the airspace above.
Planes annoy me when they fly over my house, but I’m currently not woke enough to think it’s a problem I need to whinge about.
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@@Wayward2023 Here in Australia we had a "gun buyback" (confiscation) in 1996, I don't want to see a drone buyback in future.
I agree...mostly. You're talking about the extreme cases. It's the not so extreme cases that are what get many of us annoyed. It's crazy that I can't just freely get vacation videos or photos, in many of the most popular places, even if done safely.
Good job! That’s the way I started out. It takes a while to get to where you want to be. I never could play a guitar but I stuck to drones . Maybe us that have been in this awhile respect it more.
Spot on,we've been saying this for years.These so called drone auditors drive me crazy.There should be laws which can banned the individual and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy landscapes etc.
The regulatory bodies just need to enforce the laws that are already on the books and make it hurt. When you look at the fines levied on these individuals they aren’t even close to the max.
Darren, in the nicest way possible, I think you've misunderstood why these drone regulations are being tightened - The CAA are not tightening regulations due to misuse, this is all about money.
Take the Gatwick airport issue as an example which you did raise in your video. Lots of "sightings" but not one shred of evidence of an actual drone. The police went on a witch-hunt against two local drone enthusiasts and the media piled on, but in the end the police had to pay £200k in compensation to the couple because the case was built on nothing. So what really happened? In order to understand that you have to follow the money as always - Which leads right back to the company who then provided a load of useless anti-drone technology to various airports.
Time and time again there are reports of things which didn't happen, "sightings" and unconfirmed "near misses" - All to clear the airspace from our hobby or to line the pockets of some organisation. (These drone delivery companies who have a product which is unviable, but are really trying to position themselves to provide the next drone ATC system)
The people who abuse the airspace and get caught are just a happy accident to those trying to clear the airspace, they just help build up the media frenzy.
We're losing our hobby and there's not a single thing we can do about it thanks to corruption.
Alright thats all get a gun , oh the license is just to make money and not regulate or keep people responsible.
I bought the air 2s because we do a lot of travelling and with our daughter I thought it would be an amazing way to have videos of her growing up exploring amazing places, however I do feel like an annoyance when I get it out to capture some footage if there is people about.
Been flying drones for years and have always made sure I do it well away from it might annoy or upset people. Observe the rules and show consideration for others and you won't go wrong.
Going out on a limb here: people knock the auditor types flying over industrial sites, but a couple of them are producing massive local archive footage for the future that is going to be historical interest and a unique record of some areas and historians in the future.
I can think of two who also show great examples to the rest of us how to politely deal with misinformed Karens and even manage to swing situations into getting proper guided factory tours half the time which they film and even help promote he company, with viewers commenting on how great the company was, and well done to them for that. These are rare on youtube admittedly.
The majority of them are knobs though. But these are the only people this industrial archive footage is seemingly coming from right now. Ok so they need the revenue from clickbait confrontation, which is more the fault of social media itself. Just my 2 cents worth and only a humble personal opinion.
I got my own drone to archive the changing locality here, which is changing rapidly. Not to make cinemtic feature films of beauty spots where everyone else is videoing, although there is nothing wrong with that if that's what you want it for.
Personally my style is a quick in and out guerilla flyby before a karen from the national trust turns up or someone wants a punch up because of some law or "right" that exists soley within their head.
Also I'm 65 with terminal cancer and can't be bothered with all the confrontation. 😂
As you say mate... It's not WHAT they do... it's the way they go about it. It's totally confrontational and provocative. Looking for an argument and winding people up. As I said earlier... They're gonna meet someone along the way that'll remove and destroy all their evidence gathering gear and give em a real good kicking before too long. What goes round comes around I always believe!
@@tommystravels64 yes, very true for 9 out of 10 of them. I agree on that. I think half of these confrontation stunts are for clicks on social media.
@@tommystravels64 I've invited a few of them to come and talk to our security guys like I've seen them do.We use temps.Theyre not gonna eat shit worrying about their jobs.
Since auditors first emerged in the UK about 8 years ago, they've been spreading misinformation. After a few years they caught the drone bug, but continue to make up their own laws and rules. Not only is it their aggressive provocation that spoils it for the rest of us, but their BS is taken as fact by others.
Totally agree…. and stay strong regarding your health issues….
It’s the unfortunate part of society right now. Instead of holding the PEOPLE accountable and punishing the individuals, they instead blame the objects and choose to implement stricter rules that won’t change anything and only effects those of us who actually follow the rules. The exact same thing is happening in America with our second amendment rights.
Along with everything else. The masses are the problem.
True.
they can try to ban whatever they like. Drones can be built so they dont really have the authority they think they do.
@@terryholmes8546 That can be a broad statement.
@@terryholmes8546 til they try coming after that too. Its a race to the bottom. Literally.
Well said, there are several content makers that often get the police called, mainly because people don't know the law, but its pushing the limits and like you say, the CAA will end up moving the goal posts again. Both me and my son have drones that are now effected by the weight law and so are so restricted, they are hardly ever used now. Its sad really
I agree with you. One of the problems is the drone manufacturers and sellers themselves. If you look at the packaging (and usually the manuals too) there is nowhere that they tell the purchaser that there are some rules to follow allowing people to plead ignorance when they do something stupid.
Could not have put it better. Darren, great video. The minority are spoiling something we love to do. It's a real shame. Keep doing what you do. You are making a difference, and with videos like this, the message should be heard loud and clear.
I really hate what these so called "auditors" do, especially when the police get involved. Their inconsiderate and often foolish actions will spoil things for the rest of us serious hobbyist drone pilots.
The government will spoil things.
Your vote matters!
Auditors are not the problem its the government getting too much power and control and us plebs just letting them.
You hate people that legally fly?
No, I hate people who fly over factories and warehouses etc just because they can, they frequently do this with total disregard to the comfort and privacy of employees who re on private property. Just because it's legal doesn't make it ethical.@@justmatt7931
While i can't control what a Person do , i am always asking questions about the Person i am selling my Drone to cause i try not to let these things go into the wrong hands but i can only do so much and can only Hope !
Very well said...I hope more and more ppl see this video
Thank you for this video. You have hit the nail squarely on the head! As others have already said, it's the few who spoil it for the many. Apart from creating drone footage as a hobby, I am also a keen motorcyclist and it's the idiot riding along a busy street on the back wheel that adds to our 'bad press'. As with any pastime or hobby, the majority do respect others but the ones who don't, attract the unwanted attention. Sad.
Wow man you hit the nail on the head. It seems like they do all this stuff just to get views. People love controversy and they love to stir things up. I was going to say if we all stop watching that kind of content they’d stop making it, but you beat me to it. Lol. I hope people heed your advice, brother.
Thank you mate, it’s a video I never wanted to make really but think it needed to be said 🤜
Great video! I've seen a few idiots doing this and messing it up for the rest of us. Really pisses me off!
We can only hope that the CAA take a pragmatic approach to this problem and recognise that no matter what they do these people will continue to misuse and abuse the Drone tech. I encountered one lad out at a park several years back, talked about the rules of the day that we had to stick with. His response? "Rules are for breaking.". I never went to that site again.
Your absolutely correct the minority mindless idiots (auditors)will spoil it for the vast majority of responsible drone flyers.
I honestly believe the sub 250g drone rules will be tightened up and restricted the same as larger drones .
Hey Darren I live here in the US. There is a bill still in early stages but still a bill in progress to ban DJI. Also Remote ID goes into effect this September. I think I already told you on a different comment different video. Like you're saying now about the people that are not following the rules is just messing it up for everyone man.
They sure are, I know about the Bill, I really don't think it will happen, ( I hope not especially for you guys ) I can see maybe law enforcement not using DJI but I can't see a bill to ban it for the public happening based on the reasons they have given. I can see laws getting stricter tho if things don't change.. Small groups of people ruining it for everyone else
Nice idea Darren but I don't see how that would work. CZcams has an option in the Studio panel to strip out the copyrighted audio while leaving other sounds (speech, crowd noise etc) in place - it's very easy, just click on the option if you get a claim for copyright and it happens automatically. We use our drones for all sorts of things in our videos, for example flying at below head height to film street graffiti because we can get a smoother pans and zooms using the drone rather than using gimbals. especially when we are on rough ground, to filming local beach activities such as windsurfing. Do you feel we should or shouldn't be using drones for those sorts of purpose?
I can't speak for Darren but as long as you aren't putting anyone at risk then I don't see why you wouldn't use it that way.
Problem with these auditors is that they want to fly over factories and private land, just to prove the point that they can. If it was my work place or private area I would be asking them why they are filming, I would ask if they were scoping the area out to see if there was anything valuable and then casually mention that I should report it to the police as a precaution in case of any thefts in the near future.
If there was a theft from the grounds in the future then the police would be obliged to question them.
@@RichyNeal If you actually watched any "auditors" video you would understand why none of what you said would work.
@mapolinski I have and I've watched them buzzing factories behind secure gates that the public wouldn't have access to at ground level. Sure they have the right to fly over it but if they are paying close attention to private areas then it wouldn't be a stretch to assume they are scoping it out. There was no other valid reason for it other than to antagonise the security guard and "educate" them
@@RichyNeal im glad you agree that what you said about “what I would do is…” would not work and would not disuade them.
Excellent points made in this video. I must admit that I have been guilty of watching the "biscuit factory" videos and thought the operator was being clever, but on reflection he was/is guilty of causing a massive problem for us all. Doesn't matter what the law technically lets us do at the minute, such actions will cause further restrictions.
Use your drones wisely!
Doesn't matter what the law allows........really....?? It doesn't matter what you do in life someone who is not involved in the activity will always find something to complain about, its human nature. Unless you stand up for your rights under the law, you will lose them in short order.
Excellent video ! Spot on ! Things needs to change and these people need to stop ruining it for every decent flyer !
thank you!
Baahahahaha. Bro. You don't think they'd just say people are doing the wrong things and keep the legislations coming?
😅
Exact same reason they won't put limiters on cars but yet "speed kills, stop speeding"
Cdc told people to wear masks, they did.
Cdc told people its safe to remove masks... they still wear them TODAY. People listen when it's their agenda.
Last I heard, in the US, if you intend to make money off of your drone video, you are required to be licensed by the FAA. I ordered the books for a course I intended to take to get that license, and I was surprised of how in-depth they went...for flying a small drone 20 feed of the ground. My first thought was that gee, might as well get my full pilot's license. Given the rise of the new regulatory class in DC, I give it just a few years before you will need a full pilots license to fly a drone at all. As far as why, it really doesn't matter. See, it seems that drones can be programmed to have limits, such as altitude, speed, and whatnot. In other words, you should be able to make a consumer drone that is limited to the height of a ladder or say a two-story building. So, why wouldn't the FAA consider limits on capability for consumer grade drones versus other? Instead of saying that people need a license simply because they may sell the video taken from the drone is ludicrous. It is overreach. They could just as easily say that you need a license to fly a drone capable of flying above a specific altitude, for example, but it seems that they don't...or won't. (Am I right?) To me, this is almost the equivalent of the FAA telling someone they need a pilot's license for flying a kite simply because the person holding the string wants to take a picture of it for profit. Anyhow, the misuse of drones seems more of an excuse to push heavy, nonsensical regulations rather than a call to realistic actions that would more accurately access the risk and make sensible industry changes.
Yeah the government has been doing the same thing with gun regulation. The government rarely takes a sensible approach to any issue.
I love the suggestion of playing music! It might not get the video taken down but it will prevent it from being monetized, which is almost as effective.
I absolutely agree. Some people abuses the law too much and influences other to do the same - I hope Djaudits is watching this
You’re so right Darren. There’s some complete BALLBAG on TikTok as well posting videos of them flying drones RIGHT up to the faces of people in the public (like within one metre) and posting their reactions. Complete asshole behaviour and ultimately going to ruin things for all of us who actually like to capture beautiful footage within the law.
People hurt my head with their stupidity.
I have held off buying a Mavic 3 Pro or an Air 3 because of all this kickup. Personally, I think you are right Darren, these 'auditors' aren't really interested in anything other than the confrontation and the fact that people watch these videos is just another side of the poor effects of social media. So, hopefully we have all filled out the RFC that the CAA requested using Ian In Londons guidance and we can hope that those of us, not remotely interested in filming a biscuit factory in Leeds, won't get penalized too much.
Well said, not sure whether I should get one now
I agree 100%,i used to have a Phantom2, and the first Mavic Pro. Years past, life settled and I do have more time to enjoy photography and hiking. I am thinking to buy the Air3 for landscape videos I do not post any of my regular pictures on social media. I feel sad for every sensible people out there, whose life will be more restricted when it comes to fly a Dron, because of those idiots on social media.
Great video and timely content. As with anything, it only takes a few knuckleheads to spoil the fun. I see the 250 gram exception going away, requiring everyone to be licensed to fly. Maybe not a bad thing as it would separate those who are responsible from the rest.
I disagree.
That is a lazy _”appeal to authority”_ fallacy argument.
Let’s not get in the habit of being a government stooge.
Agree, these plonkers are going to ruin it for the rest of us that do things properly ! They really wind me up ! Great video
Exactly,just because there's no restrictions, doesn't mean you can fly just to piss people off,if I was doing these videos I'd approach the company and seek permission,that way we're both cool about it.i can fly a 249g in street,but I don't,no need to,even though I'm legal to do so
I like the advice about playing music when dealing with that type of person.
I agree 100% with your video. But the truth is nothing will change when you are dealing with the human race. We love to do whats wrong and expect a good result. Very unfortunate for people like us who love this great hobby.
Yeah, Humans suck (Not me though). 😄😉
This is depressing, why are there so many morons in the world. The music idea is a good one, hope it reaches the people it needs to and makes a difference. Love your videos btw, I've learned a lot from you.
@@ThinkingNow the idea is that the music will make the video in breach of copyright and it will be removed from social media, making it unusable.
@@ThinkingNow that's exactly how it works, if you put copyrighted music on a video it will get removed.
@@ThinkingNow That's how it should work. I can't say if you're right or not as I don't watch videos like that because I'm not a moron.
That thing about playing copyrighted music is brilliant. I never thought to do that but that’s absolutely a great idea.
Never really thought of it like that
Your right tho everyone seems to want it to kick off
I only fly mine local and wouldn’t want to get in an argument with anyone
The auditors are not my cup of tea but it's no big deal what they are doing. Just ignore and do not interact with them. The trouble is, there is always a Ken or Karen who wants to moan about nothing. A load of hot air. I shake my head. There are more important things to worry about in life.
You missed the point. The "auditors" are pushing to the boundaries of what is and is not technically legal and all that does is educate the government on how to write laws that will deal with those behaviors. You can ignore all you want, but if they keep doing it, laws will be written to address what these auditors say is legal. They are technically correct about where the laws are today, but laws are updated constantly to deal with misbehaving people. So by pushing the boundaries, they will force new laws to be written that constrict the ability to fly more and more.
1st world problems m8 , suicide drones being used you know where at this moment in time , and here they worry about a little drone over a biscuit factory . 🤣
@@uptowndisco2 Exactly. It puts it all into perspective.
@@ShaneInseine You said it yourself, the auditors know the law and generally keep to it. What is more concerning is little Johnny getting a drone for Christmas and just flying it how he wants, unaware there are laws.
I don't obeying any Laws ..... I'm Human
100% mate one life live it
Same thing happened with the Escooters over the last~10 years, idiots causing Singapore, one of the first countries to popularise them (multiple reasons, too many to go into here) to Clamp down hard on them and effectively ban them, which then cause a massive 2nd-hand market as an entire country sells-off it's e-scooters.
Same thing spread to other countries, idiots causing strict laws, hampering adoption of micro mobility that could benefit many.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !
The Audit channels are the worst. The best thing is don’t watch them and don’t give them a platform.
I disagree, If people feel like they're being "harassed" by a small drone flying overhead that's their own fault, pilots are not ruining the drone hobby, is the Karens and the tyrannic governments
Well explanation about some people are abusing this hobby and think that they're above the laws. That's how the drone's laws are become more and more strict to the point where it's no longer made sense to purchase one. Simply - we just can't and no longer fly anywhere anymore!
Love the bit about playing music 😂👍
Haha Love that play music idea !!!!! I'll remember that !! Great advice ! Really thinking out of the box :)