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I love the analytical and clear eyed view you have on how debating and arguing should be. Everyone has an opinion, its how you present yourself during that argument that makes your point worth listening to.
Ill add i came back and gave you a like as well. This is what the world needs.
Actually, we shouldn’t speak to fascist and nazis like they’re decent people. Ben has inspired a few mass shooters. He talks about immigrants, Muslims, and people of color like they’re sub human. Just because he sounds educated, speaks fast, and seems well mannered, doesn’t mean he should be treated like he is a decent person.
Bernie saying everyone should have healthcare and a republican getting shot, is not the same as Ben saying gay people and trans people shouldn’t exist. Embarrassing
She was great. That is what a debate is. That is what conversation is supposed to be like. She listens insightfully to his opinions and answers. She diesnt just wait to talk. ....like so many. I may not agree with her but I agree with the way she handles herself. Very uplifting. Gives me hope
Your from California aren't you
@@nicholascasiano8479lol
There’s a reason why when most of us were growing up, we were told to generally avoid arguments about 2 things - politics and religion 😀. I feel like one of the biggest factors contributing to our current state of seemingly increasing division is the rise of 24/7/365 media where we’re constantly inundated with political and religious “propaganda”. I use that word because most people generally watch media that aligns with their worldview, which creates confirmation bias, which just makes us dig in even harder when it comes to debating “the issues”. Kudos to Ben and this young lady for showing us that we can disagree without resorting to ad hominems or childish outbursts.
I agree that generally arguments regarding religion and politics should be avoided where possible. Obviously if you’re out and about, working, shopping, etc., that’s definitely not the time or place for it. But I do feel discussions such as the one between this young lady and Ben are necessary. If you look throughout history, there has always been division, violence and bigotry in regards to politics and religion. I feel it’s sadly inevitable to have politics and religion without those things. It doesn’t make it justified or morally okay, but it’s just a sad reality. No matter the point in history or circumstances, there has always been people who let their emotions overwhelm their rational and logical thought process and take things to the extreme. But on the more positive side of things, look how far society has come and the many problems that have been solved over time. Sure nothing is perfect, and there are still lots of problems and challenges, but that’s why political discussions are needed, so we can find solutions to those problems.
She went into the discussion having done some background research (which it seems many don't) and seemed to be interested more in the answer than the fight.
Also, Alex talking about being called homophobic and giving a quick side-eye when he hears sirens on the background 😳😂😂😂
Happy new Year Alex
In my humble opinion the biggest problem today that covers a lot of what has been mentioned in this video is we live in a twitter / x / ticktock generation. What I mean by this is we are only allowed to give a short answer to a deep conversation and society will not let you give more than that and if we did try to type a long answer or record a long video people will clip it to bite size chunks and that could alter the entire answer to the social questions we are talking about. A few times before I’ve written a answer on places like facebook and CZcams and gone in great depth why I feel and I believe in my humble opinion this is the answer and I’ve even had people I agree with getting mad at me because they clipped my response and took that small part not the answer in it’s entirety. Until people listen they have no real grounds to give their opinion on that answer because the answer they give will be almost wholly made up of speculation and misinterpretation. We need society to get out of this lazy mind set and be ok with opening up and speaking what’s on their mind entirely and then being patient enough to wait and listen to the replies don’t ignore them don’t cut them off don’t drift off because chances are that person listened to you and that’s why they have a long answer so do them the same courtesy as they did for you and listen quietly so you can give a informed response. This young person and Ben did this very well there was a few points they spoke over each other but it was not beating the other person down verbally it was just the heat of the debate. 👍🏻
Don't be humble about this, cause you're 1000% right. On of Our real biggest issue is social media and the ridiculous influences it has over the younger generation. Idk how many times I've heard something along the lines of "oh, I saw it on Facebook from a family member so it must be true" and it couldn't be farther from the truth. No one cares about actual truth, they seem to only care about the "popular" truth.
@@jesseamadeus5351 yes totally agree. I hear it being said all the time as “my truth…” I never understood this because what they are saying in essence is “I have no evidence and no one will agree with me I have nothing to back me up but… because in my heart I feel it it’s got to be true…”.
I think that's very interesting, given that no one actually engages with the points of leftists, where leftists are constantly dissecting right wing arguments word for word.
@@radiofloyd2359 not sure if this is a reply to me or if you was trying to reply to the video?. But my personal experience and point of view on that is that more often than not the left is arguing with the center and calling it right because it’s doesn’t align with its point of view. Where as the right will often see the center and the left point of view and understand the difference. I’ve even seen extreme left people calling left leaning people extreme right because the opinions don’t align. That’s the biggest difference is that unless the left’s argument is matched by their friends they are automatically foes. So who do you talk to? To try and discuss things?.
@@fubarghost13akawoz44 Engaging with points doesn't mean categorizing them in the way you want them to.
It means carefully listening to and understanding the points, and where they come from.
The left does plenty of that, while the right, frankly, just attacks strawmen 90% of the time.
I really like how she is very calm, that's how a debate/dialog should be. I completely agree with you bro! When you noticed Ben is cutting her off and how respectful she was, that is a great observation.
It's nice when it's a calm tone and not shouting and/or overtly emotional
Why does Ben Shapiro only debate college students
Hey Alex I tried to look up your movie channel and I couldn't find it Could you possibly give me a link to it? Love your content by the way bro 😊
lol, you got me here! Came in with preconceived notions, came out respecting the crap out of your point of view and rational take. You sir, have my subscription and like!
I always had a problem with the words "homophobia" or "transphobia" because the Greek word "phobos" means "fear", and those words are not about fear, but rather prejudice and discrimination. That being said, I have way more issues with the prejudice and the discrimination in themselves than with the words used to describe it.
It’s used to weaponize the language to shut down opposing opinions.
I forgot hydrophobic materials were scared of water. My bad
@@TheRealVarzens We know that hydrophobic materials don't have any thoughts about the water. We who speak English knows that the same word can be used in different contexts.
Since we are talking about the human mind, we must use phobia as a thought. And I've never seen anyone react to a gay person like they would react to a spider.
Have you ever seen a person jump on a table and scream in horror when a gay person walks by?
@@CelticSpiritsCoven so you acknowledge that the suffix can have a different usage but you insist that it can only mean fear when talking about transphobia/homophobia?
Amazing
@@TheRealVarzens If we apply the term "phobia" to a person, then we are talking about instantly reacting in fear.
So have you seen someone jump on a table and scream when a gay person walked by like they would do if a rat ran across their foot?
I am a wrathful person, i dont think i could ever be in a public debate.
Alex I've been following you back when 400 thousand viewers took a while... love your input and following you... you're a rare individual who will openly listen to both points of view and your music reviews are always spot on
PLEASEEEE KEEP ON WITH THE LIVE STREAMS!!
Great video Alex. I love an intelligent respectful debate.
Thank you for not apologizing for your content! ❤
Yaay!! She did a much better job communicating her points than most of us.
So with one of the first points they discussed, in agreeing with Ben, I find that while people's words aren't inherently inciting hatred, the growing number of general people who are so unhinged as to take words and react in physically violent ways is incredibly alarming.
Yet, we gotta keep pushing for the truth and civility, no matter how tough it gets. Preserve the freshness, stop the decaying process of the world around us, and don't hide in the dark, but disturb it with light. Be salt and light. Much love to you Alex! God bless!
Love that you've made the decision to do this on your main channel.. These kind of discussions should be send out to the world.. People need to think about shit and not be closed minded and take a side.. Make your own opinion and debate with people who think otherwise.. That is what society and democracy is..
This isnt a discussion though. A real discussion on a topic would be two experts in the the field presenting two different points of view. Thats a discussion. This isnt a discussion, this is just this thing that Shapiro does to get clickbait youtube hits.
@@andrewvasquez7872Two people talking about a subject is a discussion. You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to make an opinion or to read a study. A child can do this. Also, this is a college, where discussion, debate, and discourse is its purpose. This is how you learn.
What a total and complete beautiful conversation debate between two different points of view both are great speakers and intelligence there is nothing wrong with having a different point of view
link to original vid?
"Phobia" literally means an irrational fear. That Google definition is BS.
Bro are you going to react to Kook-aid or not 😂💙
Good job Alex. I've only seen your music reaction videos. This was refreshing. Great episode! Great almost 3 way debate, if you get me. Cuddo's to ya. 👊
Love to see these educational debates with you Alex, never could have found this one without you! Keep it up!
❤it’s really nice you stop and look certain words up for people 😭
The problem with this example is that Ben is not trying to legislate against and remove the rights of people who are eating shellfish. Let' maybe not minimize by comparing someone's right to live and exist to a religion thinking shellfish is sinful!
did i just re-watched a repost??
Thanks for watching this and breaking it down.
Yo dude love your vids do you think you’ll ever check out more my chem romance because I think you’ve still not experienced in my opinion the two best ones like dead! And I don’t love you. My fave album is the black parade and I think they are all amazing anyway lots of love have a nice Christmas ❤
When do we get a reaction to the first Kingslayer live version featuring Babymetal?
A phobia is an irrational fear of something. The definition of “transphobia” is misleading.
Yep. Anti-trans or Anti-LGBTQ is more accurate.
Transist would be more fitting
Plenty of words have misleading definitions. Inflammable, infamous, awful, and terrific just to name a few.
A wise man once said fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. 😀
@@SOPARA862kThat wasn't a man, that was a Muppet. 😊
The Sabbath is from Friday night to Saturday night.
The Sabbath is from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.
I do also think Ben interrupts in these forums a bit more because the Q&A is only about an hour, so he tries to go a bit quicker than if it were in a less formal setting
No, he has the podium, he takes advantage of him. The strategy of these "debates" is to generate the aesthetics of discussion while ultimately just having a one-sided monologue.
@@radiofloyd2359you mean like all liberals do lol
@@LIBOFFENDER44 I don't know?
What I do know is that for all their flaws, liberals are at least harder to instantly refute.
Like seriously. Give me any mainstream conservative argument on gender and I can debunk it, generally even by assuming all the facts they claim are true are true.
Great points. I’d share this with family if there was less cussing. (Please don’t stop cussing) 😂
I wish all college kids could have this kind of pleasant, inquisitive discourse. I largely blame the faculty and parents, though, for the ones who are far more rude or ideological. This is why I always champion doing your own research. In the age of the internet, the answers are out there, you just gotta look for them objectively (ideally from opposing sources) to find the truth.
I would say is more the fact that when you are in a group where everyone thinks the same (be it left or right wingers) then anything that isn't aligned with those ideas can be perceived as an attack -since, in relative terms, is a deviation. We are humans and we tend to simplify reality in tribalistic clusters.
Conservatives want to brainwash college kids - especially Murdoch and racist Texans. I have seen their leaflets for decades, disguised as non-existent Republican groups. Nobody buys it - it wreaks of fake. I saw this during the 80s, and think these rich foreigners are Nazis.
@AlexHefner Whenever you get the time, could you make more reaction videos on TheKillers? Starsailor too great band. Loving the content, keep up the Great work! Starsailor - In The Crossfire or The Killers - Human Thanks!
I love that you are looking up words to know what they actually mean, words are important.
I just wish people would break down the word ( incel )
Maybe then they would realize its jibberish and doesnt actually mean anything.
One cannot be involutarily subject to anything of their OWN volition.
New architects man
That woman prepared for a debate and not a scream fest!
Alex, do you still live in Hawaii? I live in Oahu. You gotta do a fan meetup at some point man
Is it me or does he sound like Elmer Flud on fast forward
I’m gonna be honest I just simply don’t share those kinds of views personally, that being said I believe that everyone should be able to have the right to their beliefs and opinions, doesn’t mean I’ll share them myself personally.
Look I’ll say this in the most simplest way I humbly believe that we should live how we please. That’s all I’m gonna say
I've been waiting for Christmas all year long, you should check out rise of the guardians
Alex, i love you bruh......but those glasses make you look like a serial killer from the 1980s 😂
You need to watch his fights at Oxford Uni.
He cuts her off so much lol , this guys funny
You are amazing Alex you need to listen to just another star by bfmv
WHEN NEW VIDEO???
NEW BMTH SONG!!
To all those who are upset about the suffix -phobia.
Are hydrophobic materials scared of water?
Great you found ONE word that doesn't apply, and you plaster it all over the place.... There are people who are hydrophobic, and they do have an irrational fear of water. And there's a thousand words where "phobia" applied to people means "fear". kuddos to finding the one example that doesn't apply to people.
Hydrophobic - to repel water OR suffers from hydrophobia
Hydrophobia - irrational fear of water
At the end of the day, no one should care whether people have "phobia". If they are not causing physical harm, there is no need to worry. Worrying about "transphobia" is not only a waste of time but just as worthless as worrying about someone who has hydrophobia- a figment of imagination and no threat at all. No value. Thus, every should not care/pay mind to it.
@@tithannisk7470 I'm just pointing out the "how can I be transphobic/homophobic? I'm not scared of them" argument is just silly and an attempt to divert
And no, it's not just one word I found. It's just an example of how idiotic it is to equating phobia exclusively with fear. As another example: Are xenophobes scared of other races?
@@TheRealVarzens I have the same problem with the word xenophobic to describe a racist.
The fact of the matter is that phobia comes from "phobos" which means fear. Now I know languages evolve and definitions changes but using words like homophobic, xenophobic and the like gives an excuse for assholes to say "I'm not that, I don't fear them".
@@tithannisk7470Words are meant to communicate. If there's precedence for a suffix being used to express a given concept, it can be useful to have other words that express similar concepts have similar suffixes.
Sabbath is Saturday
She was very refreshing! People who communicate like this do way more good and progress for their points than the screamers who can't regulate their feelings properly.
If you want to see a really good debate, check out Dr. William Lane Craig vs Dr. Sean Carroll. Don't react to it (unless you want to), it's a long debate.
They changed the definition a phobia is an irrational fear of something
Or are they trying to shame by saying you have an irrational fear and that's a you problem. I guess that is what they are saying. It's stupid of you to have an irrational fesr.
Language in general is being diluted. I dont necessarily think it's changing the definition. People just aren't being taught to respect the sanctity of meaning, so the definition isn't being represented properly.
I do think a lot of that misrepresentation is deliberate, though... and being skewed to propagate harmful information. Or, like Saiman said, used to shame and gaslight people into accepting the harmful information more readily.
When I heard this young lady's definition of homophobic, I rolled my eyes. She conducted herself well, but I couldn't get past that explanation.
I love this. And this quote is perfect, "People are offended left and right." 8:00 I think you meant it in a different way, but it works with the literal left and right. Everyone is too emotional. You should watch the recent Destiny and Shapiro debate. It is a similarly genuine debate. All in good faith. This video shows the Ben Shapiro that I listened to during the Trump presidency. I disagreed with him on TONS of things, but he was not just being a loud-mouthed right wing hack. That changed when Biden got into office. But now I am seeing these "normal Ben" debates and I am so loving them. I hope he hears messages like this, because he is so much better for the world as a calm-thrower, instead of a bomb-thrower.
Well argued debate on both sides from a topic that is very emotive for most people including me.
People have forgotten how to disagree with other people who think and see things differently. These days it's a your with me or against and nothing in between. Sad people have forgotten a basic skill that helps us all get along.
Alex, I have been a subscriber since you reacted to Nightwish and disturbed, I recently discovered a new band and wanted to ask if you would consider doing a reaction to them. They are, “The Warning” a Mexican rock band formed in 2013 by the Villarreal Vélez sisters: Daniela, Paulina, and Alejandra. They are a great live band that has opened for Muse, Halestorm, Guns and Roses, and The Foo Fighters. Metallica invited them to cover Enter Sandman for their Blacklist album and made it the #1 song on the album. Any song from the Teatro Metropolitan CDMX 08/29/2022 concert would be a great start, I love Animosity and for an acoustic try Revenant. Thank you.
What happened to your Crowder gender video??
This is how MARC MARTEL would think it too....
@AlexHefner do check out Warmen - Hell On Four Wheels! They are ready to fill in the place which Alexi's Bodom left behind!
Is Alex done with this channel? I miss the random content 😂. Especially music reactions. I didn’t even know Falling in Reverse existed as a band. I also didn’t know that I liked that style of metal music mixed with rap so much.
All of these videos are very insightful as well! We as a society need to learn how to have these important discussions without getting triggered or offended. Such a big part of our downfall is our inability to discuss things that we disagree on.
13:02
They sirens were on point
For more of your music reaction videos can you perhaps take a gander a Crim???
LOL you have an actual fear “phobia” HAAAA
alex please listen to thornhill’s where we go when we die. i think your reaction would be amazing to see as the song is very moving
The problem today is there's no compromise. People need too realize that we say things we don't mean or maybe we do? But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
One thing that is true all over the globe.
We are ALL getting more Geopolitical, and Political. Is that good? Is that bad? Well, politics will decide. It is very interesting, and you should pay attention.
I wish more people could be civil and agree to disagree, if you think the sky is blue and someone else thinks it's green, what they think doesn't change the sky being blue for you, instead just try to appreciate that other people can see something differently, it's not hard to be respectful
I like Pie, and if you don't agree, you are Piephobic!
Ben has totally lost his mind since October 7. I watch a lot of the lawyers on CZcams and it really should be something taught to kids in school. Like assign a side of a topic and show them how they can have intelligent, respectful and honest discussions. I’ve really learned a lot from LawTube 😊. I’m newish to this channel because of the reactions to political commentary and a few of the music reactions. I love watching debates and trials. And police investigations. It’s my ASMR 😂
Very cool, i watch a lot of real lawyers on CZcams as well. Bruce rivers, Natalie lawyer chic, and Emily d baker are my favorites
But getting ready to look up lawtube
"Lost his mind" in what way?
@@Extra_050I'm guessing its because he is taking a side in a war that many people disagree with.
Why aren't you posting your reactions any more???? Do you not know there's new music out, waiting!
"I've never called for violence nor would i" LOL sure, Ben.
But anyway, yea, Im one of the ones that people would call progressive but not to the extend of "woke'. I'm a millennial. I feel like we made a path to all of these crazy inclusivity happen and then the next gen fucked it up with their childish anger. From both sides. So from what you, Alex, experienced about The New Mutant, Ive seen it too many times over the year. Being a mature person, i learned to know other people first before judging them. I know you're not transphobic/homophobic so when you say you just dont wanna see kids making out, I believe you. But alas, it seems like there are not a lot of mature people today and they really like to just jump to conclusion.
But then again, you do like to make sex jokes even to children characters lol so you can see how your defence is kind of weak on that subject lol another cool video to share, Alex. Thank you
This a very good take on the issue man.
He says that because he doesn’t want to get sued. But, yes, he does incite violence. Subtly, but he does.
Alex, you *NEED* to react to Darkness Settles In by Five Finger Death Punch, I swear it’s one of the best songs they’ve ever done
She tried jump in also. He may have also been trying to wrap it up because of a time limit.
As a fellow 808 resident- I would like to know if you have thought about signing up for the seminar on running for local positions and campaigning- I ask because I wish I didn’t have so much going on personally right now- because it has been a thought.
We have much aloha and respect here- we have always been a blue state- but I hear more and more students and parents talk about how they aren’t being represented anymore. That the family units - you know we are multicultural and multigenerational here- family and respect and learnings from elders aren’t happening- that many who have left Asia are scared about how the left is leaning- most of my personal community and work community is very center -live and let live-
I don’t think enough people on the island know where to start- we are the only state that doesn’t elect their school board and have no say in our kid’s education and as someone in the know- most 8th graders read and do math on average of 3/4/5 grade leveled -3/5 years below their grade level.
I think someone who is level headed and can see how both sides of a debate is behaving is important - and I think you should consider getting involved locally here -
beautiful mixed up plate lunch of cultures and traditions
We are slowly being pushed to be more like CA- we have lots of school programs that come from CA and DOE even has many come from CA to speak to educators- and that is scary to think in 5 years that the 808 could be a mini CA
Alex. We need reaction to DOWN & DIRTY - Move It and DOWN & DIRTY - I Will Never Lose My Way
KoRn has a jingle bells song 🤟🎄
Plz make your mum react to year zero by ghost! I know she is a Christian and my own christian mother found this song very interesting to say the least...
10:50 100% agree. You can share different views and still respect and be civil with one another. If it doesn't affect me on a personal level, why should I give a shit?
Not if those views lead to people suffering and dying
@@bjp4869 elaborate on that one for me. Which views, and which people?
@@northernrime there are studies that less accepting enviroments for trans people lead to far higher suicide rates. Hell, I've seen with my own eyes how miserable trans people can be if they don't get the medical and social support they need, compared to how happy they can be when they do.
You should react to Ray Comfort
When did you become a shill?
They always interrupt.
Oh do Ben Shapiro vs cosmic skeptic! It's a good watch👌🏽
We are all out here wondering if it is ok for us to like MARC MARTEL and his Bohemian RHAPSODY cover..we are in LIMBO until you react to it...we don't know! Eeeek.
I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND using Merriam-Webster when looking up definitions. When you just Google definitions you're more than likely going to get a biased definition. The definition you read for Transphobia wasn't an accurate definition. Here's is the correct definition...
trans·pho·bia ˌtran(t)s-ˈfō-bē-ə
ˌtranz-
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against transgender people
can you please listen to Children of Bodom Bodom Blue moon ( the second coming ) or waste of skin
Alex, can you check out a metal band Thornhill? You'll love it !!
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Yo guys i know this is not about this topic but i have an idea. I just watched couple of reactions for Hybrid Theory - The Linkin Park tribute band from Portugal. They are amazing tribute band. So my idea is to get Alex to react to some live videos from them and give his opinion on it since they are similar to the original band, and also i think they deserve to be more known to the public. I know some people are not liking this tribute band but for me they are something special since i know that Linkin Park may never perfrorm again as a band. So bombard Alex in dms or somewhere and also other reactors aswell since there are not so many reactors that have watched Hybrid Theory. Thank you.
Glad you reposted this on here. 😁
Ben loves Marc Martels version of Bohemian Rhapsody...you should check it out and see why...
Lex Fridman has agreed to moderate a conversation between Ben Shapiro and Destiny!!! I’m very excited about that!
Whenever i hire in a new agent in my office, there’s 3 rules i have. Do not steal anyone’s property, do not talk about religion, and do not talk about politics. No one in my office knows who I vote for or what is my party preference. Too much passion on both sides, which causes major problems.
Yet, here you are on CZcams comments? Why would anyone want to work for a person that seeks attention on youtube?
@@Onthebrink5 I wouldn't hire you, that's for sure. I have something that you don't. It's called moral standards.
@@jmvillegasjr59 Only a moron would want to work for someone that seeks attention from strangers on youtube. You possess no moral axioms. You are a hypocrite. Might even be a liar. People that seek attention on social media are often not very truthful.
Words like "homophobia" and "transphobia" are used intentionally to create a bias. It's all about capture of the language. So looking at a dictionary definition of words that explicitly exist to create an image in one political bend is not going to be helpful.
Do you have a suggestion for different words that mean "prejudice against non-straight people" and "prejudice against trans people"?
The biggest issue when it comes to topics and discussions such as these is that you have reasonable people that will talk as Ben does here and will even practice it truthfully in the real world but there are too many that don't. An example of this:
The idea that its against his religious beliefs for same sex couples to exist but in a free society they should be allowed to do so. In his ideal world, all churches would have the choice to marry them or not, so people would have to find a church that would. Fair enough, right? But that's how segregation happens, when there's zero oversight or power from a governing body that can influence everyone in every city/state. It would push people to congregate and gather up with every one of a similar prejudice and allow those people to do as the pleased without any limitations.
Now, the opposite is also true with governments having the ability to influence and regulate everything fully. Then all it takes is for a hype religious set of congressman and presidential candidates to get into office and suddenly we're losing Roe V Wade rights and other freedoms solely based on people's moral interpretations guided by hyper religious beliefs that should be separated from governing bodies, one of the key principles instituted by the founding fathers.
I can’t stand him!!
Alex, the characters you refer to in The New Mutants were in their early twenties The actresses were 23 and 25 at the time the movie was released. You stated you objected to the kiss scenes, because it makes you feel weird. Do you feel the same when it comes to young heterosexual kissing in movies? Is it their age or their sexuality? Be honest.
A suggest for you, bro: listen to Leprous (band)
Trigger me by reacting too some more Deftones. Rosemary!