why doesn't Sony just move to make a smartphone with Sailfish OS officially. Sony is very underrated with Android, it can be said that it is not successful with Android. In my opinion, it is better for Sony to collaborate with Jolla to make a Sailfish smartphone officially. I am sure it can compete with Android and iOS. In my opinion, sailfish OS is better than Android and iOS. Come on Sony and Jolla, make a breakthrough. Sony is a big company and Jolla has a very sophisticated OS. If they join officially, they can definitely produce a smartphone that is more sophisticated than the current smartphone
@@joppyccom I agree with you, it would be great, but we are not living in a perfect world unfortunately. Even though Sony smartphones sales are small, they for sure could offer dual boot for android + Sailfish OS, BUT “big guys” from Google would come and intimidate Sony ("no Google Play from us" or "pay more now for our services per device"). This is how it works, it reminds me of BeOS and Hitachi Flora Prius computers story, when Microsoft came and threatened Hitachi. Sony may be afraid of such scenarios
I think it's also about risks. Android however already have big part of pie of market and most people, if you look around, use phones on Android and iOS. Also Sony price policy is not so attractive for users.And company actually many time has say that phone production will be curtailed in future (That's why Sony leave such big market as Brasil and some countries of South East Asia some time ago). But,yeah, third competitor always would be great.
@@alexgut1everything It's even worse, Sony left US market recently (not completely, but new flagships are not available in the USA anymore). Their price policy can't be different either, since they sell few phones and their expenses are high. So I don't propose to make Sailfish OS only phones, nobody will buy that of course (unless you have advertising budgets bigger than Microsoft's). But, dual boot can be a solution, customers will not miss android, while they also receive more 'features' from Sony smartphone. But again, Google will not allow that. Sony is not in the position to risk at all
Sony is for niche market and availability. They only sell to select Asian Market and EU. Their phone are terrific, ip 68 with 3.5mm capable of 24bit/192hz. It's a flagship phone but their budget phone is not good. I can get Samsung S23 for additional 60 bucks (comparing to Sony 10 VI)
Not so easy to come up with a start up OS. Microsoft can tell you how that went ( windows phone os ) . Unless you have a lot of money to pay the developers to make the apps for your OS. And if Microsoft which basically have a huge budget could not make windows phone os survive...
As much as I would also like to see that, Sailfish has been in the works for quite a few years at this point, so if they were to become a real alternative to Android & iOS, they would've already succeeded at that at least 5 years ago
Great review! I am not sure if one can recommend this phone as a device immune to government surveillance software like Pegasus, though. The software like this use security vulnerabilities in Android and iOS, and the only reason why SailfishOS feels more secure is the lack of proper security audit - so few breaches and CVEs are widely known to be specific to Sailfish OS, not just Linux in general. When Sailfish gets more popular, a situation may happen that it is even easier to crack automatically than a recent Android or iOS version.
I agree with you, but for now: 1. The more you have control the better 2. Security through obscurity😄 In a sense that what is not targeted is probably safer (and I doubt Sailfish OS will be targeted in the nearest future)
@TempCrap-nn4cm Not electron but react-native, it will still be native at the end. reason why is because i've already built apps for both iOS and Android, i really don't want to manage 2 separate apps that do the same thing.
Thank you very much for the nice video. :) One thing I'd like to add: Actually I would say the statement about the camera at 10 III isn't fully right. You can have all cameras working, only not at the same time. There is a pretty nice fix (a script or a button in the action menu) you can get from different places. The problem is, that if you activate the 3 rear cameras the front one will no longer work. Switching back with the script / action menu button will however give you the front camera and one read camera. As far as I know it is due to the Blobs provided by Sony. I am pretty sure a 120 Hz display wouldnt really benefit you much... do not know what your obsession with that is... 90 Hz is fine, 60 Hz is okay for most especially if you are not that much into gaming. ;)
You're right, the patch is called "X10III Triple Camera Toggle" on Chum (I found it after I made a video). It works, which is.. nice to have, I guess? Speaking of 120 Hz, it impacts UI smoothness a lot. I can't imagine working on macOS without 120 Hz now (never thought before buying new MacBook Pro this would happen). On other systems it makes a difference too: on iOS, android, heck, even on ChromeOS - saw it on Acer 516 GE recently. The more the better, it seems. Maybe it is not noticeable when you mainly use 60 Hz devices, but after I tried a 120 Hz screen, I don't want to look back
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH If the Sony Xperia 10 III is that "stuttery" for you in comparision to the old one, 120 Hz does not help anything, because than it will not give 120 fps anyway. (or anything higher) For 120 Hz to work nicely, you need 120 fps or at least much more than 60 fps to have any kind of difference. You may get 90 fps out of it (there is a nice option to see the fps on the phone for anywhere if you go to Developer Options and than "FPS framecounter display" - I am paraphrasing since I have another language on my phone) but since the display is 60 fps you will not see higher framerates anyway in this case... Anway: 120 FPS on a computer (with a 27" or something like that) and a mouse or games is a big difference to a small screen device if you ask me... but hey, if you really think it is very important for you, that's fine. I just think it is much less important on a smartphone than big screens.
@@ContinuumGaming Sure thing, software support is needed. However, I can clearly see difference between my iPhone 11 and my boss' iPhone with ProMotion - even though it's a smartphone display
Are normal Linux applications commonly usable on Sailfish? Sailfish seems to use normal Linux stuff like Wayland, RPM, systemd, etc, so it should be possible to package libraries like GTK+. Apparently someone got havoc running on an older version, with some difficulties because of older Wayland versions, so I was wondering if something like that would come up during normal use? Especially if you want to avoid Android ports where Linux versions exist.
I just got my Xperia 1ii installed community version and migrated aliendalvik on the firmware, I do believe this is one of the most impressive mobile system I've used, probably can support me the next 3-4 years😂
As an author of microtube, you get +1 point for showing microtube and -3 points for not showing picoplayer during video playback, showing fernschreiber instead of my yottagram (yeah we got beef lmao), and not using nanofiles for file browsing
@@the_mister_magister Hi, I tried Pico Player before shooting the video, but it didn’t open the movie that I showed here, so I just moved on. For file management I prefer File Browser, but your app is great too, as well as Yottagram. This is just another proof of great community apps choice, that Sailfish OS is all about, so all of them are hard to put in one single video 🙂 Thank you for your apps and being part of the community! 👍🏻 By the way, in Microtube, do you plan to add video quality settings in the future? Or does it constrained by the Sailfish OS / CZcams limitations?
@@the_mister_magister In settings there’s only “maximum resolution”, I meant resolution per video. For me it is always shown in 640x360 (maybe that’s because Xperia 10 III only supports AVC1)
@@nobodynever7884 That’s because it’s “European OS”😁 You can still, however, buy an old Sony phone on eBay, or you can try to order Jolla community phone now (and then find a buyer to get it shipped to you)
Great news indeed, they even removed VK (russian social network) from the list of accounts in Settings. Other than that Sailfish OS never had russian services or code, so I glad they got rid of russian money
@@devhamid Xiaomi phones don’t share Jolla ideas about privacy, and Xiaomi doesn’t have “Open Devices” AOSP program like Sony. There’s no “better hardware” either, these phones are just subsidized by CPC, making prices below the cost.
@@devhamid Sailfish OS was ported to Xiaomi Mi Note 10 already: forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-16th-december-ports/9653 This page gives an idea which ports are possible: wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris Also, Jolla has documentation for those who want to port Sailfish OS: docs.sailfishos.org/Develop/HADK/
If I didn't get into Ubuntu Touch, I would probably used SailfishOS instead. I've always envied the smoothness of Sailfish UI. It was on par with Android when I tried it on Nexus 5 many years ago. UT has improved a lot since then though, Sailfish is probably still smoother though haven't tried it in a long time and in modern devices. It's kinda sad the UI part isn't open source. Which Qt version are they using now anyway? They were stuck with Qt 5.6 for a long time, right? Which makes the smoothness more impressive. Also, what web engine do they use in their browser? UT has a major problem with this because QtWebEngine is always outdated and it's not easy to upgrade to Qt6.
@@AninoNiKugi Sailfish OS currently uses Qt version 5.6, although there are hopes that Jolla will not have legal obstacles with this anymore after the restructuring. Speaking of web engine, I mentioned in video that it’s based on Mozilla ESR 78. Old, but still works ok. Update is needed though, like I said in video
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH Oh yeah you mentioned that but I was a bit confused and wasn't sure if that's the native browser or Firefox itself or Android app. Interesting, so they were able to create a Qt app with Firefox web engine? 🤔
Sony has Sony Open Devices program, which means that they provide Android Open Source Project (AOSP) device configurations on GitHub. It also includes many other things, such as: - the easiest possible way to unlock bootloader online (on this website developer.sony.com/open-source/aosp-on-xperia-open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader) - a freely distributed flash tool ("Emma", developer.sony.com/open-source/aosp-on-xperia-open-devices/get-started/flash-tool/download-the-flash-tool) - direct cooperation with Jolla etc. No other (big enough) vendor - including Google - provide all of this
Or, you can preorder a Jolla phone 2 (as long as it is still available): shop.jolla.com/details/91eb91d3-c3de-41d0-b3c0-7075a339112d/ I already did, so surely less than 1000 left 😊
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH Thanks. I been looking for something like this for a long time so I will likely still try. I would easily lose $500 to even take a SHOT at getting Sailfish OS on a premium phone.
@@intalek305 Well, Jolla phone 2 with its €300 price tag is an easy choice, although its specs are not premium to say the least (chinese SoC, 1600x720 screen). For premium I would certainly go with Sony Xperia 10 V
I agree, max brightness of Jolla phone is good enough indoors only. But we are talking about 2013 middle range smartphone, I'm sure with Jolla phone 2024 it will be different
@@smart_bar Jolla C is 8 years old 🤷🏻♂️ On my Xperia 10 III terminal works normally… But I have no complaints about Terminal on original Jolla phone (with SFOS 2.2) either
I don't know about Xperia 10 III, but I successfully installed Sailfish OS on Japanese variant of Xperia 10 II: forum.sailfishos.org/t/does-sailfish-x-compatible-with-sony-xperia-10-ii-so-41a-model/11077/10
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH True, but Chinese people always try to use alternative OS's, many of their PCs already use Linux including Government one, I think out of all the linux OS available for smartphones, this is the most usable one, Which People can genuinely consider, Not only china but all XDA developers will help to port this to other famous smartphones unofficially
@@KHe3CaspianXI Well, only international versions are officially supported by Jolla, but in the past I actually installed Sailfish OS on my Japanese variant of Xperia 10 II: forum.sailfishos.org/t/does-sailfish-x-compatible-with-sony-xperia-10-ii-so-41a-model/11077 However, you will need unlocked bootloader to do this
@@LelouchLamperouge235 Good point, showed Adguard DNS only as an example (it’s integrated in my ASUS router, so it was the quickest way to setup). Not using it normally
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH Nope! a project to port Sailfish to Keypad phones was on cards and a Prototype device (Nokia 3310 look alike) was displayed in one summit too. Even Saifish OS website included some details then but nowhere to be seen now. You can search for Sailfish OS on Nokia 3310 in youtube, you'll get a demonstration video.
@@mpk927 Lie. The most vivid community I've seen for such a project. Hundreds of native apps, games, and patches. 2 community app stores. Don't forget also Android apps support. The majority of apps work as expected (with microG installed)
This looks like another pine64 mess tbh Pinephone is probably the worst device you could own nowadays, besides a literal brick, and even then the brick would be of use.
@@uytin99 Interestingly, Sailfish OS (and Jolla phone) was originally created for a mainstream user, so it is fundamentally different from “Linux smartphones” or “privacy phones” we see today. In 2013 it was believed that there’s a place for alternative mobile OS in the future, and Jolla actually thought they could get a 10% share, for example. This is why I think the original team that created the OS (and there were 200-300 people back then, not 20) focused on a user centric and intuitive system. It is only afterwards that Sailfish OS became a niche product for enthusiastic developers
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH Oh nice to know! Sailfish and Meego, which are both developed by the same team, is so beautiful. Sadly they come out too late and are underfunded to take on Google and Apple, when they had established a strong foothold in the OS market.
I've been following jolla for a while and now decided to get the c2 community edition, Android keeps becoming a resource eating monster whilst iOS user interface in my opinion has always been awful. I'm hoping sailfish OS becomes at least usable and offer a realistic alternative.
Gua harap SONY segera merubah OSnya menjadi LINUX ... karena android 11/12/13/14/15 Beta terdapat lebih banyak batasan yang di terapkan untuk pengguna. Lagipula ANDROID sendiri dari Linux yg di modif menjadi lebih jelex.. OS LINUX seperti Backtrack terdahulu .. berjalan dengan baik di ram 500mb dan ternyata masih bisa di gunakan untuk HACK WIFI di tahun 2024 dan masih bisa INJECT OPERATOR untuk isi pulsa gratis.
Aurora OS is an independent fork the Finns sold to russians. It is not connected to Sailfish OS, fortunately. I remember Jolla said that OMP (russians) hasn't made a lot of commits to code when they were partners. So russians were more focused on corporate/government apps and integrating FSB certificates to the browser. Oh, and they also changed system icons 🤣
Russians just simply renamed OS and...did nothing, nothing at all to optimise and make OS and devices on it more attractive. Still they sell Aurora OS phones and tablets mostly to gov. sector and some affiliated companies, and for simple users there is only two models of phone,which started selling in the very end of 2023.And results sells are poor (less than 5000 units).The other hilarious thing is that Android emulator for Aurora OS is paid, prices on devices are Inadequate and phones and tablets in it's own... ...are made in China😂, not in Ruzzia. But ruzzians still veeery proud of "their" OS and manufacturers 🤣🤧🤦🏼♂️
Russians just simply renamed OS and...did nothing, nothing at all to optimise and make OS and devices on it more attractive. Still they sell Aurora OS phones and tablets mostly to gov. sector and some affiliated companies, and for simple users there is only two models of phone,which started selling in the very end of 2023.And results sells are poor (less than 5000 units).The other hilarious thing is that Android emulator for Aurora OS is paid, prices on devices are Inadequate and phones and tablets in it's own... ...are made in China😂, not in Ruzzia. But ruzzians still veeery proud of "their" OS and manufacturers 🤣🤧🤦🏼♂️
I'm subscribing under 1 condition, if you were to make more videos about Jolla and SailfishOS 🤣
I already ordered Jolla phone 2, so new videos are sure to be! 😄
@@Bohdan_HI-TECHi’m interested too
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH do you mean Jolla C ? 😋
@@smart_bar I mean Jolla community phone (2024)
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH yessssssssssssssss, can’t wait…
why doesn't Sony just move to make a smartphone with Sailfish OS officially. Sony is very underrated with Android, it can be said that it is not successful with Android. In my opinion, it is better for Sony to collaborate with Jolla to make a Sailfish smartphone officially. I am sure it can compete with Android and iOS. In my opinion, sailfish OS is better than Android and iOS. Come on Sony and Jolla, make a breakthrough. Sony is a big company and Jolla has a very sophisticated OS. If they join officially, they can definitely produce a smartphone that is more sophisticated than the current smartphone
@@joppyccom I agree with you, it would be great, but we are not living in a perfect world unfortunately. Even though Sony smartphones sales are small, they for sure could offer dual boot for android + Sailfish OS,
BUT
“big guys” from Google would come and intimidate Sony ("no Google Play from us" or "pay more now for our services per device"). This is how it works, it reminds me of BeOS and Hitachi Flora Prius computers story, when Microsoft came and threatened Hitachi. Sony may be afraid of such scenarios
I think it's also about risks. Android however already have big part of pie of market and most people, if you look around, use phones on Android and iOS. Also Sony price policy is not so attractive for users.And company actually many time has say that phone production will be curtailed in future (That's why Sony leave such big market as Brasil and some countries of South East Asia some time ago).
But,yeah, third competitor always would be great.
@@alexgut1everything It's even worse, Sony left US market recently (not completely, but new flagships are not available in the USA anymore). Their price policy can't be different either, since they sell few phones and their expenses are high.
So I don't propose to make Sailfish OS only phones, nobody will buy that of course (unless you have advertising budgets bigger than Microsoft's). But, dual boot can be a solution, customers will not miss android, while they also receive more 'features' from Sony smartphone. But again, Google will not allow that. Sony is not in the position to risk at all
Sony is for niche market and availability. They only sell to select Asian Market and EU. Their phone are terrific, ip 68 with 3.5mm capable of 24bit/192hz. It's a flagship phone but their budget phone is not good. I can get Samsung S23 for additional 60 bucks (comparing to Sony 10 VI)
Not so easy to come up with a start up OS. Microsoft can tell you how that went ( windows phone os ) . Unless you have a lot of money to pay the developers to make the apps for your OS. And if Microsoft which basically have a huge budget could not make windows phone os survive...
Good to know Jolla is still alive. Keep going.
Really hope sailfis os takes off. We really need an alternative to iOS and Android
As much as I would also like to see that, Sailfish has been in the works for quite a few years at this point, so if they were to become a real alternative to Android & iOS, they would've already succeeded at that at least 5 years ago
Sailfish OS should collaborate with BlackBerry, thus creating a new world in the BlackBerry smartphone market share.
@@loyaltiads 🤣 BlackBerry is not making smartphones anymore
bb with this secure os would be nice
Great review!
I am not sure if one can recommend this phone as a device immune to government surveillance software like Pegasus, though. The software like this use security vulnerabilities in Android and iOS, and the only reason why SailfishOS feels more secure is the lack of proper security audit - so few breaches and CVEs are widely known to be specific to Sailfish OS, not just Linux in general. When Sailfish gets more popular, a situation may happen that it is even easier to crack automatically than a recent Android or iOS version.
I agree with you, but for now:
1. The more you have control the better
2. Security through obscurity😄 In a sense that what is not targeted is probably safer (and I doubt Sailfish OS will be targeted in the nearest future)
@@Bohdan_HI-TECHEver heard of five eyes
The Finnish accent gets me every
time. Lived in Helsinki for sometime.
He is Ukranian..
@@SectorfiveYTbut he showed some clips from the presentation held by Jolla and you immediately know that the person speaking is Finnish.
@@Steinegal Bohdan is Ukrainian name and his apps were in Ukrainian. So I assume he speaks Finnish as well.
@@eruno_ I don't speak Finnish, at least not yet 🙃
Would be great if one day it rises up to compete against the mainstream alternatives
I wish i will have the time to write a react native wrapper for it, but i don't think i will get a lot of support
@TempCrap-nn4cm Not electron but react-native, it will still be native at the end. reason why is because i've already built apps for both iOS and Android, i really don't want to manage 2 separate apps that do the same thing.
@@io_incnot really native. it's more like electron disguised as a native app
Please don't ever ruin the system with react.
Earned a new subscriber, keep it going ✔️
Thank you very much for the nice video. :)
One thing I'd like to add: Actually I would say the statement about the camera at 10 III isn't fully right. You can have all cameras working, only not at the same time.
There is a pretty nice fix (a script or a button in the action menu) you can get from different places. The problem is, that if you activate the 3 rear cameras the front one will no longer work.
Switching back with the script / action menu button will however give you the front camera and one read camera.
As far as I know it is due to the Blobs provided by Sony.
I am pretty sure a 120 Hz display wouldnt really benefit you much... do not know what your obsession with that is... 90 Hz is fine, 60 Hz is okay for most especially if you are not that much into gaming. ;)
You're right, the patch is called "X10III Triple Camera Toggle" on Chum (I found it after I made a video). It works, which is.. nice to have, I guess?
Speaking of 120 Hz, it impacts UI smoothness a lot. I can't imagine working on macOS without 120 Hz now (never thought before buying new MacBook Pro this would happen). On other systems it makes a difference too: on iOS, android, heck, even on ChromeOS - saw it on Acer 516 GE recently. The more the better, it seems. Maybe it is not noticeable when you mainly use 60 Hz devices, but after I tried a 120 Hz screen, I don't want to look back
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH If the Sony Xperia 10 III is that "stuttery" for you in comparision to the old one, 120 Hz does not help anything, because than it will not give 120 fps anyway. (or anything higher)
For 120 Hz to work nicely, you need 120 fps or at least much more than 60 fps to have any kind of difference. You may get 90 fps out of it (there is a nice option to see the fps on the phone for anywhere if you go to Developer Options and than "FPS framecounter display" - I am paraphrasing since I have another language on my phone) but since the display is 60 fps you will not see higher framerates anyway in this case...
Anway: 120 FPS on a computer (with a 27" or something like that) and a mouse or games is a big difference to a small screen device if you ask me... but hey, if you really think it is very important for you, that's fine. I just think it is much less important on a smartphone than big screens.
@@ContinuumGaming Sure thing, software support is needed. However, I can clearly see difference between my iPhone 11 and my boss' iPhone with ProMotion - even though it's a smartphone display
Are normal Linux applications commonly usable on Sailfish? Sailfish seems to use normal Linux stuff like Wayland, RPM, systemd, etc, so it should be possible to package libraries like GTK+. Apparently someone got havoc running on an older version, with some difficulties because of older Wayland versions, so I was wondering if something like that would come up during normal use? Especially if you want to avoid Android ports where Linux versions exist.
I personally did not try that, but I'm sure folks on forum.sailfishos.org can confirm that installing 'normal' Linux applications is for sure possible
I just got my Xperia 1ii installed community version and migrated aliendalvik on the firmware, I do believe this is one of the most impressive mobile system I've used, probably can support me the next 3-4 years😂
Дякую) Coincidentally I’ve bought 10-3 for my mother, it seems that she will live with Sailfish OS from now on😅
It looks really nice but....idk. I think I would still want to try it, and see how well it works on a daily basis. Great review though.
Thanks! The good news is it's free to try (and Sailfish OS 5 will also be free, it's just android support that is paid)
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH I'll definitely have to look into that. Appreciate it.
As an author of microtube, you get +1 point for showing microtube and -3 points for not showing picoplayer during video playback, showing fernschreiber instead of my yottagram (yeah we got beef lmao), and not using nanofiles for file browsing
@@the_mister_magister Hi, I tried Pico Player before shooting the video, but it didn’t open the movie that I showed here, so I just moved on. For file management I prefer File Browser, but your app is great too, as well as Yottagram. This is just another proof of great community apps choice, that Sailfish OS is all about, so all of them are hard to put in one single video 🙂 Thank you for your apps and being part of the community! 👍🏻
By the way, in Microtube, do you plan to add video quality settings in the future? Or does it constrained by the Sailfish OS / CZcams limitations?
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH they're already there, just look into settings
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH It's in the settings
@@the_mister_magister In settings there’s only “maximum resolution”, I meant resolution per video. For me it is always shown in 640x360 (maybe that’s because Xperia 10 III only supports AVC1)
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH avc1 is limited to either 360 or 720p yeah and that's youtube's limitation
For the battery, how many hours does it last for average use?
Depends on how many android apps are used. For me it lasts all day, but I heard Sailfish OS had much better battery life with Sony XA2
We should bring back windows phone
Надо, чтобы на HMD копии N9 запустили, тогда вообще олдскулы всем сведет
Ive looked into sailfish OS in the past but the list of compatible phones is always phones i can't buy in USA. Very confusing.
@@nobodynever7884 That’s because it’s “European OS”😁
You can still, however, buy an old Sony phone on eBay, or you can try to order Jolla community phone now (and then find a buyer to get it shipped to you)
Oh didn't hear they got rid of russian trail, some good news this morning.
Great news indeed, they even removed VK (russian social network) from the list of accounts in Settings. Other than that Sailfish OS never had russian services or code, so I glad they got rid of russian money
I wish they support Xiaomi phones, since they have active community and better hardware.
@@devhamid Xiaomi phones don’t share Jolla ideas about privacy, and Xiaomi doesn’t have “Open Devices” AOSP program like Sony. There’s no “better hardware” either, these phones are just subsidized by CPC, making prices below the cost.
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH yeah but the community is so large anyway. Yeah still hope community build will be exist someday.
@@devhamid Sailfish OS was ported to Xiaomi Mi Note 10 already:
forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-16th-december-ports/9653
This page gives an idea which ports are possible:
wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris
Also, Jolla has documentation for those who want to port Sailfish OS:
docs.sailfishos.org/Develop/HADK/
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH thanks you, will try to read documentation
If I didn't get into Ubuntu Touch, I would probably used SailfishOS instead. I've always envied the smoothness of Sailfish UI. It was on par with Android when I tried it on Nexus 5 many years ago. UT has improved a lot since then though, Sailfish is probably still smoother though haven't tried it in a long time and in modern devices. It's kinda sad the UI part isn't open source.
Which Qt version are they using now anyway? They were stuck with Qt 5.6 for a long time, right? Which makes the smoothness more impressive. Also, what web engine do they use in their browser? UT has a major problem with this because QtWebEngine is always outdated and it's not easy to upgrade to Qt6.
@@AninoNiKugi Sailfish OS currently uses Qt version 5.6, although there are hopes that Jolla will not have legal obstacles with this anymore after the restructuring.
Speaking of web engine, I mentioned in video that it’s based on Mozilla ESR 78. Old, but still works ok. Update is needed though, like I said in video
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH Oh yeah you mentioned that but I was a bit confused and wasn't sure if that's the native browser or Firefox itself or Android app. Interesting, so they were able to create a Qt app with Firefox web engine? 🤔
Is it tied to Sony? Why not release for new Pixels? More mind/market share == more funds?
Sony has Sony Open Devices program, which means that they provide Android Open Source Project (AOSP) device configurations on GitHub.
It also includes many other things, such as:
- the easiest possible way to unlock bootloader online (on this website developer.sony.com/open-source/aosp-on-xperia-open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader)
- a freely distributed flash tool ("Emma", developer.sony.com/open-source/aosp-on-xperia-open-devices/get-started/flash-tool/download-the-flash-tool)
- direct cooperation with Jolla
etc.
No other (big enough) vendor - including Google - provide all of this
Been waiting years to get this on my Xperia hopefully now is the time.
Or, you can preorder a Jolla phone 2 (as long as it is still available):
shop.jolla.com/details/91eb91d3-c3de-41d0-b3c0-7075a339112d/
I already did, so surely less than 1000 left 😊
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH Oh that's new? Interesting....can I get it in the US?
@@intalek305 No, unfortunately, only in EU/Norway/Switzerland (currently). Although I’m in Ukraine and I just order it through a middleman
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH Thanks. I been looking for something like this for a long time so I will likely still try. I would easily lose $500 to even take a SHOT at getting Sailfish OS on a premium phone.
@@intalek305 Well, Jolla phone 2 with its €300 price tag is an easy choice, although its specs are not premium to say the least (chinese SoC, 1600x720 screen). For premium I would certainly go with Sony Xperia 10 V
I wonder if revanced would compile on it
This would be an awesome alternative to android and iphone.
Iirc sailfish is more like desktop Linux than android?
@@replikvltyoutube3727 Sailfish OS does not look like desktop, it is pretty similar to other mobile platforms (although UI design is different)
The original Jollaphone was/is unusable outdoors.
I agree, max brightness of Jolla phone is good enough indoors only. But we are talking about 2013 middle range smartphone, I'm sure with Jolla phone 2024 it will be different
Ok, 2024 getting interesting
Чудовий огляд, дякую!
Does it have access to terminal emulator, and sudo?
@@replikvltyoutube3727 Yes 🙂
yeah but built-in terminal on my Jolla C with SFOS 3 has sooo horrible UI responsiveness
@@smart_bar Jolla C is 8 years old 🤷🏻♂️
On my Xperia 10 III terminal works normally… But I have no complaints about Terminal on original Jolla phone (with SFOS 2.2) either
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH well if original Jolla Phone runs better both Android apps and even TERMINAL it becomes interesting)
Can it be installed on Japanese version?
I don't know about Xperia 10 III, but I successfully installed Sailfish OS on Japanese variant of Xperia 10 II: forum.sailfishos.org/t/does-sailfish-x-compatible-with-sony-xperia-10-ii-so-41a-model/11077/10
What programming language do they use to develop Sailfish?
its linux, so a bunch of. mostly c++ with qt i suppose
I think they should open source it, many Chinese manufacturers will use ti
@@pulkitsharma6313 I doubt that it could happen, android is much easier to put trackers and ads in it
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH True, but Chinese people always try to use alternative OS's, many of their PCs already use Linux including Government one,
I think out of all the linux OS available for smartphones, this is the most usable one, Which People can genuinely consider,
Not only china but all XDA developers will help to port this to other famous smartphones unofficially
@@pulkitsharma6313 I agree, among all the Linux options it’s the sole thing I can use as my daily driver
pretty sure it is open source
I have sony 10 mark 3 but can't unlock it, my model is japanese. what to do ?
@@KHe3CaspianXI Well, only international versions are officially supported by Jolla, but in the past I actually installed Sailfish OS on my Japanese variant of Xperia 10 II: forum.sailfishos.org/t/does-sailfish-x-compatible-with-sony-xperia-10-ii-so-41a-model/11077
However, you will need unlocked bootloader to do this
Lg v60 sir?
Im not one to argue politics often .. but are you fine with using adguard dns on your router when its a russian company and you seem to be ukrainian ?
@@LelouchLamperouge235 Good point, showed Adguard DNS only as an example (it’s integrated in my ASUS router, so it was the quickest way to setup). Not using it normally
Hey, can you install HedgeCam 2 on this? Does it work?
@@deathdoor I read that HedgeCam 2 is based on Open Camera, which I installed already. Works great
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH I recommend you switch to HC2, the interface is better, is more refined.
Sadly not many phone supported
Decent support is always hard to implement.. At least we will have Jolla phone 2 soon
What happened to Sailfish OS on keypad mobiles?
It was never available on feature phones. Or do you mean Gemini PDA?
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH Nope! a project to port Sailfish to Keypad phones was on cards and a Prototype device (Nokia 3310 look alike) was displayed in one summit too. Even Saifish OS website included some details then but nowhere to be seen now. You can search for Sailfish OS on Nokia 3310 in youtube, you'll get a demonstration video.
А застосунок Резерв+ працює?
Резерв не пробував, але Дія працює (з магазину Huawei, там тоді не потрібні сервіси Google Play)
ЗАЧЕКАЙ ХВИЛИНКУ! ЩО? Я НАВІТЬ НЕ ПОБАЧИВ, ЩО ТИ БОГДАН ::/
Я ЗЛЯКАВСЯ УКРАЇНСЬКОЇ НА ЕКРАНАХ, БО АКЦЕНТ БІЛЬШЕ НА ФІЛІПІНИ СХОЖ 😭
@@fiachr Акцент вже такий як є 🤷🏻♂️
How is the app support?
Doesn’t exist
@@mpk927 Lie. The most vivid community I've seen for such a project.
Hundreds of native apps, games, and patches. 2 community app stores.
Don't forget also Android apps support. The majority of apps work as expected (with microG installed)
I don't care about sailfish, I'll get a normal Linux phone
Good luck with that 🤣
This looks like another pine64 mess tbh
Pinephone is probably the worst device you could own nowadays, besides a literal brick, and even then the brick would be of use.
It is a niche product, so it wouldn't supposed for mainstream use. Worst for most people but good for a minority.
@@WildWildWeasel Can’t be compared with Pinephone/pine64 at all, Jolla and Sailfish OS is on a whole other level
@@uytin99 Interestingly, Sailfish OS (and Jolla phone) was originally created for a mainstream user, so it is fundamentally different from “Linux smartphones” or “privacy phones” we see today. In 2013 it was believed that there’s a place for alternative mobile OS in the future, and Jolla actually thought they could get a 10% share, for example.
This is why I think the original team that created the OS (and there were 200-300 people back then, not 20) focused on a user centric and intuitive system. It is only afterwards that Sailfish OS became a niche product for enthusiastic developers
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH Oh nice to know! Sailfish and Meego, which are both developed by the same team, is so beautiful. Sadly they come out too late and are underfunded to take on Google and Apple, when they had established a strong foothold in the OS market.
I've been following jolla for a while and now decided to get the c2 community edition, Android keeps becoming a resource eating monster whilst iOS user interface in my opinion has always been awful. I'm hoping sailfish OS becomes at least usable and offer a realistic alternative.
Port it to HMD Skyline> N9
Прикольно але не дуже юзабельно
@@AntiBillOS Що саме не юзабельно? Це з досвіду саме користування Sailfish OS?
Gua harap SONY segera merubah OSnya menjadi LINUX ...
karena android 11/12/13/14/15 Beta terdapat lebih banyak batasan yang di terapkan untuk pengguna.
Lagipula ANDROID sendiri dari Linux yg di modif menjadi lebih jelex..
OS LINUX seperti Backtrack terdahulu ..
berjalan dengan baik di ram 500mb dan ternyata masih bisa di gunakan untuk HACK WIFI di tahun 2024 dan masih bisa INJECT OPERATOR untuk isi pulsa gratis.
Aurora OS by russians :)
Aurora OS is an independent fork the Finns sold to russians. It is not connected to Sailfish OS, fortunately. I remember Jolla said that OMP (russians) hasn't made a lot of commits to code when they were partners. So russians were more focused on corporate/government apps and integrating FSB certificates to the browser. Oh, and they also changed system icons 🤣
Russians just simply renamed OS and...did nothing, nothing at all to optimise and make OS and devices on it more attractive.
Still they sell Aurora OS phones and tablets mostly to gov. sector and some affiliated companies, and for simple users there is only two models of phone,which started selling in the very end of 2023.And results sells are poor (less than 5000 units).The other hilarious thing is that Android emulator for Aurora OS is paid, prices on devices are Inadequate and phones and tablets in it's own... ...are made in China😂, not in Ruzzia.
But ruzzians still veeery proud of "their" OS and manufacturers 🤣🤧🤦🏼♂️
Russians just simply renamed OS and...did nothing, nothing at all to optimise and make OS and devices on it more attractive.
Still they sell Aurora OS phones and tablets mostly to gov. sector and some affiliated companies, and for simple users there is only two models of phone,which started selling in the very end of 2023.And results sells are poor (less than 5000 units).The other hilarious thing is that Android emulator for Aurora OS is paid, prices on devices are Inadequate and phones and tablets in it's own... ...are made in China😂, not in Ruzzia.
But ruzzians still veeery proud of "their" OS and manufacturers 🤣🤧🤦🏼♂️
@@alexgut1everything As far as I know, ruzzian Aurora OS does not have android app support at all
@@Bohdan_HI-TECH you can run, but after reboot.