How hard is it to back up a trailer?
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
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This week I thought I'd try my hand a farming. The most basic skill I needed to learn was how to back up and reverse a trailer. The aim was to learn to reverse a tractor and trailer full of wheat into Crawford's barn without destroying his farm.
Camera work and thumbnail: @Kim_Norrie - Zábava
The real fun starts when the trailers have two pivot points.
Fuck those trailers XD In ETS2 I can reverse a trailer fine. Double trailers in ATS? /fuck that/ lol
Extremely fun, like a comedy show
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That just looks insane to me, seeing truck drivers park at smallish farms is always insanely impressive to me, and they do it like its nothing.. those guys have some insane skill tbh
Exactly, even better when you have two trailers like that (i reversed it just some meters to shed, but it was challenging XD)
Petition to have Mike learn more jobs around the farm as a series!
This can be arranged 🤣
@@CrawfordsFarm1 this MUST be done!
Clarksons farm
@@CrawfordsFarm1 YES!
That would be dead
reversing with a trailer is one thing that takes some time to get down but once you do its like second nature, you always just know where the thing is gonna go
Came here to say this, it's like riding a bike. After some practice it just clicks
I used to do it all the time when I worked at a farm and it's exactly like you say, once you have it you can just do it. But then I had to do it again the other day after not doing it for about a decade and I was mortified that I just couldn't anymore. I'm stubborn so I spent a few minutes trying again and again until it finally clicked in my brain and I could suddenly do it easily.
The ones with the dolly is what I’ll never mess with. I’d consider learning how to back up a trailer. But an extra pivot point would be horrible.
@@13_cmi u need to be a skilled driver to reverse with a dolly it’s very hard
@@13_cmi yep, the second pivot is a tricky one. I work in an orchard, so the tractors/trailers are really small (max trailer load about 1,5 ton apples), but the small wheels of the trailer, tight corners, tree branches and apple pickers riding on side of it are quite a fun factor - but it has got advantages - when i get seriously jammed between trees/other obstacle, everybody gets on the ground, unhook the trailer and push :) a self-reversing trailer, who would have guessed
Made it look a doddle! Cheers for coming - Legend 🤛🏽🤛🏽
It still staggers me that someone let me do this as a summer job when I was 18. Like Mike, for me it was realising that it was about relative motion between the trailer and myself, and making adjustments to increase/decrease the angles rather than thinking much about what the steering/tractor is actually doing. At some point it just becomes about feel rather than performing a sequence.
It’s one of those things that, once you’ve got it down and take it for granted, you just don’t think about somebody struggling with for the first time. I can definitely see how someone would entrust a teen worker without fully thinking it through haha
I do that as summer job at 16 and kinda yea
A trick which I use is to hold your hand at the bottom of the steering wheel and then push your hand in the direction you want the trailer to go in. Want the trailer to go left, push your hand up to the left. The more to push up the sharper the trailer will turn. I've used this to do some very tight turns or into narrow gaps and it takes the guess work out of the equation.
This is the first comment I saw that mentioned this! This is the way I was taught as well, this is absolutely the easiest way, I learned how to back up a trailer in one day with this method. Only problem I had was backing up without a trailer🤣
This was great! PLEASE do a double pivot point trailer next! 😃
I'm going through the total agony of learning this right now. Nothing. Nothing of it is like reversing with a normal trailer!
I've only reversed a trailer with a dumper that pivots in the middle, so it has 2 point of articulation. I'm not sure if this is easier or harder as I picked it up pretty much straight away and didn't find it too hard.
As a farmer, it's great to see you making a video on the craft! Many people nowadays forget where the food they buy actually comes from.
Suomi!
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Right… because that was the point of the video. To showcase where food comes from. 🙄
@@davidjensen6742 Read again if you think that was my point.
@@AIIu_ Then why mention it? Completely of the subject, it’s a video about reversing a trailer. Just happens to be on a farm. Has nothing to do with where the food comes from as you so happily try to mention people seem to forget nowadays.
Backing up a trailer always made sense to me if you picture it like balancing a pole in the palm of your hand. You can move your hand making minor corrections to balance the pole or you can keep it in a controlled "fall" if you want it to move around like if you are walking forward. Like Mike, once that clicked, backing things up became easy. It's great to see people have that "aha" moment.
This is an excellent cue to use when teaching someone. It can also be really useful to actually do it with two long eye bolts or some other conglomeration of two long rigid objects with a pivot point. Have the trainee use the free end of one to push the other around, and it clicks pretty quickly.
I live on a farm, and I've been reversing trailers since I was like 14 lol (I'm 18 now). It definitely helped learning it before I got super used to driving. Nice video, and good job!
Woah, just like me, I also live on a farm, and I was 12 or 13 when my dad told me to back up the trailer. First attempt took like 50 tries to get it right, but once I did, backing up a trailer now seems intuitive. I’m 17 btw.
I learned on the quad bike when doing fencing, then moved to a tractor
@@jonathanangladadavis Nice!
@@Andyjones__ I'm not sure what I first learnt it on actually, it could have been a quad now that I think about it lol
I've always loved farming even as a toddler, and at nursery I would teach the other kids to revers trailers with the toys there. Now I work on a farm at 17 and get to do it for real!
I never grew it, I never sowed it, I never harvested it. But I reverersed it into the shed.😂😂😂
Well he did it in farm simulator.
The most insane thing I’ve ever reversed on a tractor was a hay wagon with a joint on the coupler. So it could move left and right where the coupler connected to the hitch AND where coupler connected to the rest of the hay wagon plus the front axel could turn on top of it all, then taking that and reversing it around a 90 degree turn into a barn. I definitely got some gray hair from that.
easiest hint I was given when learning to back up was having my hand at the bottom of the wheel instead of the top, and shifting wheel left or right from the bottom coincided with the direction of the trailer. then it clicked and i can chase a trailer around all day now
Blud got the battle bus in his thumbnail
It's almost like the entire tractor becomes the "front wheels" of the trailer.
I remember my first time backing a boat down a boat ramp into the ocean, the ramp had never seemed so narrow, but once you get it figured out it sticks with you for a long time.
I've definitely never tried anything that large, but learning to reverse with a trailer was one of those things I'm really glad I learnt when I was still really young, so now it's intuitive. My Dad had a ride-on lawn mower and a small trailer for it, I'd "help" him by driving it around and doing trips to and from the house with logs from trees he'd cut down, or I'd bring mulch or tools down the property for him. Best fun ever.
I learnt the exact same way, “helping” dad on a riding lawnmower when I was about 8. Now I’m able to back up everything up to car trailers no problem at 16.
I knew this was Crawfords kit when I saw the thumbnail! Didn’t expect this collab 😂
Mike, at this point I'm convinced I could watch you learn anything and I'd enjoy it! Hands down top 3 of my favourite youtube channels!
I'm impressed by how well you learned to trailer! When I was learning last summer, I also found that the "follow the angle" trick helped me a lot when I was learning. Most of the difficulty after that (and the art of it) was me understanding where I had to put the vehicle and the trailer to make sure that the whole assembly got where I wanted it. In my case it was going through a bunch of boat ramps, and they vary a LOT in terms of size and approach, so it was a really unique planning challenge every time. That said those who are better skilled at trailering would have no problem doing any of the ramps I had to handle it's just the learning curve in that situation was really intense.
I love the videos on real life skills that are extremely useful and also fun to learn. I remember my dad the year I turned 16 taking me into an empty parking lot and showing me the ropes and now it's second nature.
I learned reversing a trailer on Farming Sim too. There I discovered to focus on the angle and it has served me well!
Now I would love to see you try a nordic style of full truck trailer which has two pivot points. It changes reversing with them completely opposite compared to this type of trailer. Instead of left being right and right being left, it's left is left and right is right. It sounds easier when I put it this way but actually becomes harder than this type of trailer in this video. If you ever get a chance you should give it a go.
As a long follower of Crawford and experienced tractor driver on our farm in Cambridgeshire this video made me laugh for sure, especially when he says "I struggled to appreciate the tractor" and "where's the gear stick"
Found you through Crawfords video now hooked!
I really enjoyed this video! Thank you so much for making this gold tractor + trailer reversing content!!!
I started driving and reversing trailers on the farm when I was about 9 or 10 so this is great but tbf, he was a great teacher and kept things simple and you learned better than most people :) But you need to learn the difference between a hay bale and a silage bale lmao
Would love to see this turn into a series 😊
First rule I learned about driving trailers: the smaller they are, the harder it is to drive backwards. Smaller mainly meaning short wheelbase and a single axle.
Oh man! As soon as you said it’s about the angle, it made so much sense!
I've worked in landscaping for just over three years now. Prior to this job, I'd never driven a trailer before. Now, I drive trailers more often than not, and have taught other employees with no trailer experience how to back them up. Though I haven't played with anything nearly this big!
Anyways, what you said about maintaining the angle between truck and trailer doesn't really make sense to me, but I totally get it anyways. The guy who taught me how to back up a trailer tried to explain it a few different ways, and I just wasn't getting it. He kept making pretty much the same point with vastly different words, and eventually, he found the right description that just clicked for me. Same thing when I'm teaching this skill to others. It's funny how that works.
On another note, very well done, Mike! I've never been in quite this situation you demonstrated, but every day for a couple months each year, I back a trailer out of a barn around a corner rather than into it. But again, smaller vehicle, and a much larger corner. It definitely wouldn't come easily for me, doing what you just did.
Very informative!!! I wasn’t expecting that many interesting things about Baton Rouge
I learned how to work with trailers sense i have been a child, its fun to watch you go through the process. something you got wrong tho is backing up a heavier bigger trailer being harder. trust me the worst one you will ever have to back up is an empty lawn mower trailer!
You've managed one pivot Mike, now have a go at reversing a B-double (2 pivots) or a road train (3 pivots)
Try reverse a 623 scraper with a trailer behind. Pivots in the middle of the scraper, where the dolly attaches to the scraper, where the dolly attaches to the trailer. The trailer is invisible until you start to jacknife. I had to reverse 100m once probably took me like 3 hours.
@Asdfssdfghgdfy hardest thing I've had to back is our sowing rig. 40 foot machine with the air cart behind it, towed by an articulating tractor. (That part makes it a bit easier) so there's the tractors drawbar pin, a pin in the back of the rig and a dolly behind that.
@@davidbest7859 yeah they're a pain. I've only had to do it once for a little bit when I wasn't watching the fence
This was cool! It could be very fun to see you learn to stack bales with a tele handler, perhaps a certain size stack in a particular length of time? Lots of coordination required to do it quickly
Over from Crawfords channel.
Thats really impressive, especially learning driving on such big tractor and trailer. When i learnt it as a kid was on a small tractor and trailer.
The first time I had to back a trailer into a tight space between trees was during an Army National Guard summer training.
After seven tries, I gave up, parked the vehicle, disconnected the trailer (it was a short 14' covered equipment trailer), push the trailer into place manually, back the vehicle to the trailer, and re-hook the trailer.
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It took practice and time, but eventually I was able to even back a 24' trailer with a backhoe on it into a tight space for a job I had at the time.
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Now if I can beat down my fear of trying to parallel park...
Oh shit hes still going awesome i found him a couple years ago when he first started glad to see his channels still alive
This was great. So different than the usual video but so satisfying!
Simple trick is to put your hand on the bottom of the wheel (6 o'clock position) and look at the trailer if you want the trailer to go left turn the wheel left if you want it go right turn the wheel right & don't worry about anything else. Longer the trailer the less sensitive it will be. Give it a try next time, good luck & Thanks for the video
Amazing how a kick flip uploaded to reddit would lead you down this crazy path
Love reversing trailers in ETS2 in VR with a wheel, pedals, and shifter. I'm also gonna be training to get my HGV license soon xD
Edit: This video represents one of my fears. Once I actually get into something and try reversing all my knowledge will just go out the window. I hope not
Played ATS and manoeuvred trucks in real life, I can tell you that the skill is more or less transferable, it does give you good basics on how it works. So it will help you IRL.
The suspension on that cab is sweet. Super floaty.
Time for a front pivoting wagon now!
Backing a trailer is a very underrated skill that I think most people should learn. I love that Crawford stated it was a skill he took for granted.
For me it it clicked the most when I understood i needed to “drive” the trailer instead of “pushing” it.
Loving the new climbing content keep it up!
great job mike! yet another thing learned.
thanks for the amazing video as always!
As a farmer I find this great and hilarious! I know it's a skill that can be tough but I overlook because I have been doing it since a child. I wanna see you backup a couple of hayracks together! Nice job!
I’ve actually driven one of these before 😂😂
Your videos are class Mike. Under 3 hours, superb job 🎉
This beat is my recital.
This new Farming Simulator VR has amazing graphics 😍
Honestly, the best part of this video was the new channel it intruduced me to...
Now the question is: how long will it take to stop binging the CrawfordsFarm backlog?
A tip one of my friends gave me is imagine you're pushing the trailer by hand and have the tongue of the trailer in hand, and think about how you'd move it to get the trailer where you want it to go.
Turns out most people have no issues imagining that. Well, all you gotta do is do the same thing with your hitch.
Backing up a trailer definitely gets easier the more you do it. Great video!
It was so great to see this; so many people have no exposure to farming anymore.
It's kind of terrifying to think about now, but my brother and I started driving tractors when we were 5. My brother was backing up wagons with an additional pivot (imagine a large version of a kid's wagon with the steering handle hitched to the tractor) by ~8 or 9 and driving them on the road between farms by himself by 10 (I was driving the truck and milking cows). Everybody in the family now agrees on how crazy that was; it's unthinkable today.
"this is built for comfort, and its remarkably uncomfortable." so true
I already know how to do this, but when you mentioned the thing about maintaining the angle it clicked in my brain too. "Ahh, that's what I'm doing"
One of your best videos to date Mike
Congrats on 3 mil subs🎉🎉🎉 Well deserved in my opinion
Please do a video about learning how to throw trowing knifes, or learning how to do Buttlerfly Knife tricks! :D
For me, learning how to back up a trailer was one of those things that as soon as it clicked I couldn't understand why it took me so long to get it. And now that you know how, you can never unlearn - a situation comes up where you have to back up a trailer and it just happens.
My dad "taught" me by hooking up his truck and boat/trailer in his business's parking lot and telling me to figure out how to do reverse figure-eights around the light poles... talk about pressure lol
13 tonnes, and what do you get?
Another Mike Boyd vid that’s bars to forget. 🚜
Loved the music on this one 👍
17 minutes?? Yeah, we know how this is gonna go lol. Nice skill Mr. Boyd!
Truck drivers have always had my respect for their skill of backing up a trailer.
You're rockin the wellies, mate!
when i see a new video from you
I like, i comment
and then i watch it
Mike made a video where he tried to park a tractor for 17 minutes both informative and entertaining. Crazy.
As someone who takes the abilty to do this for granted, this was amazing!
We love you Mike!!!!
I had to learn how to drive a truck with a trailer in the military. We had to back up with the trailer and slalom around traffic cones as a challenge. Quite fun actually, once you get the hang of it.
loved to see you go from not knowing how to even manouvre a trailer to just reversing it into a shed 1st try, well done
Mike never disappoints❤❤
I learned to drive on a farm and at a sailing school - launching boats backwards. Reversing a trailer is as easy as going forward to me.... The combination of short tractor axle to hitch Vs long trailer hitch to axle makes this more challenging.
love these videos mike
3:05 is such a funny shot, you look really good in that farming suit Mike ;)
Cool stuff. Good skill to have
Petintion for mike to start the skills close to real life to motivate more people (things like trading, learning a new skill, coding, mechanic, engineer stuff like civil, mech)
I self taught driving a trailer. It took my brain a 30 minutes to process what was happening.
Basically it's driving backwards, but instead of the angle of your front wheels deciding the speed of turning, it's the angle of the car compared to the trailer. If you mentally focus on that it's really easy.
Ideally you drive with your mirrors, but looking backwards makes it a lot easier if you don't have time to learn
Now that you've got the hang of that, try it again with a b-double.
Hot tip: Practice with the toys first. Helps get your head around what needs to happen. Going from one pivot point to three is far from trivial.
I'm so excited for this vidio
The ol “Turn right to go left”. Shout out to Doc Hudson
Learned this when I was 10, on a farm tractor backing a trailer into a shed.
Now it's time to visit the Hoof GP to learn how trim cows hooves!
People make the mistake of holding the steering wheel normally I.e at the top, which means you have to turn the opposite way to the way you want the trailer to go. Top tip. Hold the steering wheel at the bottom (I use one hand) and then you turn the steering wheel the same way you want the trailer to go. Move left and the trailer goes left, move right and the trailer goes right. Works the same for caravans etc. Try it!
I was once asked to move a trailer out of a bay door with a forklift. The trailer was hooked to a ball on the end of one of the forks; with it being rear steering it was really tough. Thankfully I only hit a big rack and not the major pillar supporting the roof of the workshop.
I drive Tractor-trailers for a living at 23 and I was the same way as Mike. It took me a bit to get it down but once it clicks, it's so easy and Natural
I back a 16-foot trailer into an 8 foot wide driveway with a ditch on one side for my lawn care business. That's pretty hard, but I can't imagine doing this.
Doing this on vet placements on farms was so fun to learn, after 2 weeks somehow it was no easier
I like the pseudo Cantaloupe Island track in the middle of the episode...
This was an awesome video!
The new Holden t7 is such an awsome tractor
absolute fantastic video! I also always strugle with my little 600kg car trailer.
I refuse to believe this tractor has ever been this clean
I think that learning to fly both irl and in a flight sim would make a fantastic video
The reason why I love watching Mike's videos is, it really puts my own hubris in check lol, on part of my brain screams "oh that look's f***in easy", the other part is telling that part to piss off lol.