LSD Synthesis in 7 Steps (Educational) | Lysergic acid, organic chemistry, reaction mechanisms
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- This video does not explain or suggest how to make drugs, and is purely educational and theoretical. A team of chemists recently reported a synthesis of lysergic acid, the precursor of the psychoactive drug LSD, in only 6 laboratory steps. In this video, we will learn why LSD-like scaffolds are of interest to modern drug discovery and look into the chemistry of this short but sweet synthesis.
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Reference:
- Six-Step Synthesis of (±)-Lysergic Acid; doi.org/10.1021/acs.joc.2c02564
- Identification of Psychoplastogenic N,N-Dimethylaminoisotryptamine (isoDMT) Analogues through Structure-Activity Relationship Studies; doi.org/10.1021/acs.jmedchem....
00:00 Why science cares about LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide)
02:11 High-level retrosynthesis of lysergic acid
03:13 Forward synthesis of lysergic acid
06:14 Broader application to pharmaceutically relevant structures
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Some recommended books on organic synthesis:
- Clayden, Greeves, Warren; Organic Chemistry (basic organic chemistry knowledge)
- Wyatt, Warren; Organic Synthesis: The Disconnection Approach (excellent introduction to retrosynthesis)
- Kurti, Czako; Strategic Applications of Named Reactions in Organic Synthesis (extensive toolkit of functional group reactions and applications thereof with common conditions)
- Nicolaou et al; Classics in Total Synthesis 1-3 (the ultimate total synthesis trilogy)
- Nicolaou; Molecules That Changed the World (the world's most important molecules and their impact on everyday life)
- Carreira, Kvaerno; Classics in Stereoselective Synthesis (compilation of the groundbreaking methods of stereoselective synthesis and application to synthesis of stereochemically complex structures) - Věda a technologie
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I would have guessed the Adams scale, but I guess not. I do know after 3000 micrograms I did not shake my head violently but I did feel tiny micro seizures but they were of no consequence. Kn owing the hum,an saturation level is only 2000 micro grams, I had to try just once. It was very enlightening, and pretty visual too. About 300 feet after leaving the wooded area where I lived I was still using my hands to clear any branches, knowing full well they weren't actually still there but that other voice in our head made me just to be safe. Love that drug, ever since 1970. Now where i live I can carry it and not worry about getting arrested for it, same with cannabis, and I feel much better with those laws in place. Harm reduction first, everything else afterwards.
Oh, and educate yourself about drugs instead of "just say no" BS that has the opposite effect and know how they work if you are planning on using them, be smart and be prepared to make good decisions and then you can enjoy them too. Education is all we need...and some cash helps too.
@Drampa Dreg, where do you live that L, and cannabis is legal? Portugal? Thanks. Peace.
@@drampadreg1386 Am I reading this correctly?
As I understand it; the typical dose is 100
It always irritates the shit out of me when people who have never done psychedelics, call it "hallucinating". They aren't hallucinations... Especially DMT... You can make it (so can I) and I appreciate that. But the nerds who build the rocket, shouldn't presume to tell the astronaut what space is like from earth... I realize this is what you have been taught, but now you know better.
As a teen in the 70’s we were bombarded with the message that LSD would cause “flashbacks.” I took plenty of window pane and blotter as did all of my friends. Not one of us has ever gotten the promised 2 for 1 gift of a flashback. I for one feel cheated and lied to.
I'm on a permanent flashback, it iz what it iz
@@infinityiznow Lucky You! I’m afraid that I may need a refresher dose.
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We're now all on a list... The cool list 😎
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I’m an analytical chemist, and have nothing but admiration for organic chemistry like this. Pure art and science 👌🏻
Psilocybin saved my life. I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September. I have zero cravings.
This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment.
You have no idea how these chemistry videos boost my knowledge in chemistry which is essentials for my videos and my experiments in the lab. Thanks.
That's lovely to hear. Good luck :)
xd
Beautiful!
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@@totalsynthesis ayy there it is, H-milton in the house
The legend himself!
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I kind of get why they want to take away the hallucinations in a medical type setting but I find that it’s a part of why it works so well for me and my mental health. There’s something about being completely detached from reality that lets me further examine myself in ways my conscious mind can’t. Just doesn’t seem as beneficial
I am sorry that information is not of higher demand in this day and age. You deserve the proper reward and recognition for your hard work and it shows your virtue for knowledge, doing it regardless.
"Is it a good trip"
"Idk lemme see how hard my mouse shakes"
😂😂
Thanks for highlighting our lab's work!!
Oh dang! 👏 Hope the simplified overview here still did the great work some justice
@@totalsynthesis Certainly! In our opinion, the best approaches should not take much time to summarize. We are very excited about where this initial work is going to take us towards making translational inroads into novel psychedelic derivatives :)
Wow, a total synthesis of ergolines in seven steps?
Man, that's amazing - I remember when I was a kid (late 50s) total synthesis of lysergic acid was what, 25 steps?
As you pointed out, this will open up novel routes
to analogs, both 5-HT2a agonists and perhaps new psychoplastogens -
pretty cool!
Currently in orgo 2 planning to major in orgo eventually. But damn, to think of all these crazy reagents and knowing the mechanisms behind them is intimidating yet still interesting
What’s crazy is they teach these reactions pretty early in organic. Crazy to see every come together
Thought you were gonna tell us how to make acid, but I simply couldn't understand a single thing you explained.
Having indulged in copious amounts, one of the most intriging fetures of lsd was always i could have my inter monologue sound like any person ive ever heard before . I always thought this could be very helpful in therapy along with lsd ability remove egos
This is actually the research I'm performing now, the synthesis of cyclic thiol ring structured tryptamine derivatives for use in neurodegenerative disorders. The goal is to have the product have a very profound neuroprotective effect without activation of the hallucinogenic response. Facinating field.
Wow what a coincidence. Thats awesome
As both me and my wife suffer from trigeminal neuralgia I'm very interested in this. The non-psychedelic tryptamine derivatives we've tried seem to function well as preventatives but nothing stops an attack in it's tracks like a threshold dose of nn-DMT. It's had me wondering if a degree of psychedelic activity is actually required for tryptamines to work on current attacks.
@@eddieelizabethhitler3259 Neuralgia is a very difficult condition to treat, and can be viewed in a variety of ways. The most fearful of any diagnosis is the complete death of the neurons in the area (such as in burn cases), however mild to moderate can be treated/go into remission with some drugs and therapies. Psychedelics don't seem to influence peripheral neurons, but strongly promote neuroplasticity and neuroprotection in cortico-regions in the brain, primarily in the Prefrontal cortex. Hyricium (lionsmane) has been found to be a tremendously potent activator of Nerve Growth Factor, and I believe it has some of the greatest promise for peripheral neuropathy (when paired with another drug like gabapentin). Last but not least, alpha lipoic acid has been used to revert damage from diabetic neuropathy with great promise. Certainly best to look into all of these.
@@eddieelizabethhitler3259 I would also suggest looking into the work of Dr. Jason Wallach into NMDA antagonist derivatives and neurotrophic factors.
Everytime I've ever took acid it was a very positive experience that improved my mind but also warped it just as much. I can't say I would change anything. I'm better for having taken it
"Practical LSD manufacture" by Uncle Fester gives you a cool run down. Talks about the old skool methods
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0:37 This is what I wanted to know for a long time! Measuring how trippy a substance is. However, on the internet I never found anything related to this. People always talk about synthesis but never talk about how to find out about the mechanism of a drug's action.
Now you have read my comment I think you should make a whole video only on finding mechanism of action.
I laughed out loud IRL when he said they went by how much/hard mice shook their heads around. Lol. I can just imagine some mice going WHOA THE COLORS MAN. while their heads are waving around not able to focus on any one thing
The trip is the healing part
Its good to see a fellow swiss putting out high quality educational videos, keep up the great work!
I love that you upload more frequently! Keep up the good work.
Greetings from another chemist :)
Thanks for the investment in putting these videos together and maintaining the Chanel. This video was indeed very interesting and educational. Well keep up the good work 👍
Thanks man, means a lot!
👍you have a good night,
Now we're all on a watchlist
Your videos are truly one of the best kinds ❤ keep the good work 👍
Poor mice... lot of respect for Ann and Alexander Shulgin.
Thank you for keeping chemistry alive
Nice, didnt know there was such a short total synthesis of LSD starting from an indol derivative.
You did a great job presenting the acid's structure.
I remember looking up the method once. As chemistry goes LSD seems above intermediate level chemistry
Such an interesting video. I am planning on synthesizing this molecule in the future and have been doing some research. I didn't even know about 6-MeO-Dimethyltriptamine neither Bromocriptine. Thank you for making this video explaining the steps and providing useful information for the public. Big like!
Thanks! I don't suggest doing this yourself so would not ingest anything you've created in a lab and treated with chemicals
He may not suggest it, but I do. Ingest anything you think may give you superpowers.
@@inferno7181 lmaoo nice one
it's the 5-Methoxy analog that comes from the Toad, 4-hydroxy is the active metabolite from psychedelic mushrooms, and 4-MeOAc is the synthetically produced acetylated analog of the active 4-hydroxy compound that's a slow releasing DMT trip that lasts ca. 4-6hours.
Good luck. There’s maybe 8 active LSD clandestine chemists in the USA. But please keep me in mind if you can get the precursors and achieve needlepoint Swiss grade L. Please😂
I really want to go back and study organic chemistry. Videos like this really help my motivation.
Lol, wanna go dose up some mice to measure "trippyness"? 🤣
Beautiful and concise video! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! This is incredibly topical considering the current state of increased openness for real science and research into what some of these long demonized molecules may have to offer us. Subscribed
Always a pleasure to see you upload.
1:34 Not so obviously.
Forbidden PHD thesis right there.
I love watching the steps and having no idea why it forms in the way it does
Organic chemistry is the best. I love every aspect of it
Finally the internet will teach me something useful
That brought back nightmares of Organic Chem class. Classroom booring, lab was cool!
Looks like I found a new favorite channel. Thank you. I failed Chemistry however it fascinates me. Cheers.
@Bryson Martinez I have Paul's book. Don't get me started on fungus. Thx tho. preachin to the choir
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Holy shit if I can find a form of LSD with the hallucination removed or especially psilocybin, it could be so useful for my depression and life planning
I love how much your channel is growing. I wish you could make more basic orgo chemical videos that can explain some of this stuff to us noobs a little bit, like a terminology wrap up.
Or maybe I should just wait until next semester to take Orgo I then ill understand what youre talking about :D
Thanks man! Yea doing that would not be interesting to me, and all the basic stuff is out there on youtube etc. anyways so doesnt feel like value add
@@totalsynthesis Sounds good friend :) Your channel fills a niche for the more advanced ochem players. I think a great resource is Poor Man's Chemist, he has done a great job at making his basic o-chem learning playlist.
But please remember, don't forget that your channel's jewel is it's quality over quantity. I like your uploading more frequently but I hope it doesn't into something like That Chemist (no shade to him, but I think the chemical tier list genre has been milked quite a bit now by him. It is pretty useful in learning though).
I want someone to make a chemistry animated channel. Yea it’s a lot of work, but actually seeing bonds change and the mechanics of this in real time 3d models with explanations would be a game changer for those visual people who struggle with walls of text
@@michaelhicks8603 Yes for sure. I would so donate for sometihng like total synthesis' videos in an animated form
@@joaopedroportugal i think that goes beyond my animation skills haha, but good suggestion
Ohhh no, I've crossed eyed listening to this lecture
Great Video, as usual!
1:11 enjoy how such simple structural changes on a molecular level can have such a profound impact on the psychoactive effects of a drug.
Thank you , this is very easy and usefull...... when you have a hell load of different expensive chemicals!
Ive always been wanting to find a more streamlined process of lsd synthesis. I really hope that lsd exists in nature due to this. I really think it very easily could due to the diethyl on it not being something too overtly synthetic. With the existance of lsa and lsh it seems possible, alkaloid analysis on plants sadly isnt that common until enough people report effects. Same thing also leads me to beleive mdma could too, mda already exists and the end chain is also present in other natural alkaloid, hell. Even meth occurs in a few acacia species
I was with you all the way to "This video"
Very eductional. Thanks!
When I was a kid in the 70's acid was my favorite high. Hitchhiked from Maine to the haight in SF at 17 and wow that was fun. Its a different world now.
Nice piece ..power to you
Forget Lsd, its chemistry that blows my mind , humans are amazing
Wow something worth watching for once. This is the mad genius entertainment
I like these chemistry videos, very good explanation. Best regards. 😎👍
Thanks!
Olson's work is fascinating, truly envious of that group's talent
Good sense of humor
.... I still find the procedures tricky but I figure if that guy over there can do it I can too... Got to study
Bump. Good work dude. Bound to make some ripples.
Thank you for this...purely educational and theoretical video.
Total synthesis is interesting from academic perspective. In practice the starting point of partial synthesis are ergot alkaloids.
It’s crazy what a difference watching this video has after being forced to take OCHEM. Actually pretty interesting, great video!
Thanks!
The little notation of white dots marking important parts is super smart
I'm definitely on the list
I didnt understand like... any of that, but I am definitely interested!
Excellent education on chemistry to expand healthcare and chemistry knowledge
Thanks ill go and make my ACID now informative video
This seems really cool makes me want to study chemistry
I dont know anything about chemistry, but Im still watching lmao
Same, would love to see the actual process. Not that I could recreate it, just wanna watch it
Currently studying to be a chemical engineer. I may “use” this one day ;)
Gees. As someone who is still an amateur in Chemistry, this is quite overwhelming for the time being. Guess I better get a move on and figure out how all of these reactions work.
Gotta love the good ol' "drug a mouse a watch its head shake test" its very scientifical trust me
Thanks for "educating" me
Can you please do Ibogaine!
Also, ?can you explain the equipment and techniques
Thanks for the video. Maybe you can help answer a question I have. I've researched it and didn't come up with anything. I recently tested two different kinds of blotter with an Ehrlich reagent solution. One perforated and the other unperforated. The unperforated is quite a bit thicker. The perforated has a Felix print on it and the other is just white. They both tested positive but the blotter with the print has a fizz reaction. It looks like hydrogen peroxide on a wound. I was also advised to not store that particular blotter in aluminum foil due to the technique they used to apply the L to the blotter left the top side of the blotter with a crystalin sheen on it that could receive abrasive I guess on it a bit and chip away at the L and diminish the potency of the blotter a bit. The unperforated is stronger and I feel like it is definitely much better in quality. Any idea what is really going on? They originally came from different parts of the world as well not same source.
i truly wonder where one would find Lucy these days....
Psychedelics definitely has potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression , I would like to try them but it's hard to source them here
haha, totally living for ur commentary dude ^_^ subbd
Great stuff ! But how about a video on the synthesis of D.M.T. Purely for education of course ! !
😂
Gread video! I recently thought about the possibly easiest pathway to Lsd by using lysergic acid amide as a precursor. Just in theory, is it possible to convert Lsa into lysergic acid by acidic hydrolysis? And then add diethylamine by condensation-reaction to create the diethyl amide? Me and my friends discussed this but did not dare to ask our chemistry teacher.
If this were in fact possible, why are Lsa containing seeds not used for synthesis of pharmaceuticals?
Keep uploading, your videos are way more enterraining than Tiktok shit!
Absolutely, the "semi-synthetic" way is to use ergot alkaloids - hydrolysis indeed gives lysergic acid. Actually bromocryptine is made from en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergocryptine
It's definitely often faster and cheaper to use biologically derived molecules from fermentation or other processes where appropriate, but complete chemical synthesis gives more optionality during discovery itself.
Thanks!
I believe the hydrolysis is more efficient using KOH then neutralising with H2SO4 to give the sulphate salt.
Easiest would be to start with LSA then cleave with a KOH reflux, neutralize the KOH to form the free acid. Then react with excess acid to form the D isomer. Next use a peptide coupling reagent of your choice to attach the diethylamine. The rest is purification. The total synthesis route allows you to play with the chemistry to create novel analogs with interesting properties.
Interesting that I was trying to do this at the same time as you released this video...
To produce 100 doses of LSD, each with a potency of 250 micrograms (mcg), you will need a significant amount of morning glory seeds.
You would likely need several thousand seeds to produce enough lysergic acid for 100 doses of LSD.
There are other natural sources that contain more lysergic acid, such as the seeds of the Hawaiian baby woodrose (Argyreia nervosa) plant. These seeds contain higher concentrations of LSA than morning glory seeds.
Crush the seeds into a fine powder using a mortar and pestle or a coffee grinder.
Next, mix the seeds with water and add a few drops of hydrochloric acid. The acid will help break down the plant material and release the lysergic acid. Stir the mixture well and let it sit for several hours until the water has evaporated.
Once the water has evaporated, scrape the residue from the container and add more hydrochloric acid. Repeat this process several times until you have a purified form of lysergic acid.
Next, combine the purified lysergic acid with diethylamine and a solvent such as ether or benzene. Allow the mixture to react for several hours, stirring occasionally. After the reaction is complete, separate the layers by pouring the mixture into a separatory funnel and allowing the solvent and water layers to separate.
The top layer should contain the crude LSD. Filter the solution through a coffee filter or a piece of filter paper to remove any impurities, then evaporate the solvent to yield the crude LSD. The crude LSD can be further purified by recrystallization or other methods.
*The substances used in the process are highly flammable, dangerous and toxic!*
*Do not attempt to make LSD or use it in any way!!!!!!!!*
Here are the steps to store the final product:
Transfer the LSD solution into a clean, dry glass vial with an airtight cap.
Label the vial with the date of synthesis, purity level, and any other relevant information.
Store the vial in a cool, dark place, such as a refrigerator, to protect it from light, heat, and moisture.
Avoid exposing the vial to air and light as much as possible, as they can degrade the LSD.
If storing for long periods of time, consider adding a desiccant, such as silica gel, to the storage container to absorb any moisture that may seep in over time.
Check the vial periodically for any signs of contamination or degradation, such as changes in color or odor, and discard if any are present.
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@@user-ru7im4kz2g If you germinate the seeds first and remove the shells you can drastically reduce the level of unwanted constituents. Obviously this is very much easier with HBWR over MG.
Finally, a suitable synthesis for me
Throw in some geosmin as well for even more sensory overload
Where’s your Patreon link? I would sign up. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks man! www.patreon.com/totalsynthesis
For transparency, I have not set up a discord as shown in old overviews (in case you were interested in this particularly). But highly appreciate if you would like to support!!
I'm not super educated about chemistry, so it's surprising and fascinating to me that the plastogenic properties are preserved with certain isomers of e.g., DMT while removing hallucinogenic properties. However....I'm pretty "experienced" you could say, and I'm skeptical about the usefulness of these non-psychedelic drugs because, contrary to what the video suggests, you DO want to trip after taking the pill...that's what gives you the lesson which then guides the neuroplasticity in a productive and healing direction. It's what pulls up information out of your subconscious that needs to come out into the light. (To be clear, all of that is exactly why I believe psychedelics are powerful medicines and not party drugs.) I'd like to know if these non-psychedelic variants have actually been put to clinical use, and if so, as part of what type of process.
They are researching them for example for the treatment of cluster headaches and other conditions in which patients do not need the psychedelic experience (mentally speaking) but need some of the physiological effects. See e.g. clinical tests with 2-bromo-lsd in Switzerland
Hm yes, I will use this video's contents very educationally 👍👍👍😁😁😁
I'd love to be one of those mice that get DMT tested on them
How much education and specifically what classes would I need to take to understand everything being said in this video?
Completing a chemistry undergrad I guess
It'd be great if you could do one on ALD-52? aka Orange Sunshine
and maybe some 'analog' explanation, how it's still 'trippy' but not LSD
ALso for ideas maybe one on MDMA and other 'alphabet drugs' like 2CI 2CB etc.
Youre a legend
I've watched this like 4 times just to hear that line at 1:30 again. Fucking lmao. Love your videos seriously. Informative with a sense of humor =]
Hello Mr Total Synthesis first thing first I really appreciate your work for making content for the Future scientists or for another inspiring story for Breaking Bad 2 we don't know but next semester i have drag design if you can give us a website to rememorize organic chemistry.
Thanks! To be honest anything you can find via google is probably good! E.g. www.masterorganicchemistry.com/summary-sheets/ or other wiki stuff
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@@totalsynthesis where are you from
Oh remove the OH
with trimethylsiline , does that also turn carboxylic groups into aldehydes? Would triethyl orthosilicate work? Any other equivalent reagent or any other considerations?
I dont think it reacts much with acids/esters
@@totalsynthesis I hoped, but makes sense, resonance stabilizing in the acid, electron configuration of esters + steric effects.
Know if the triethyl orthosilicate useful for alcohols or only the trimethylsiline?
I happen to have some of the former, don't like making the latter, and don't want to break the seal unless I have enough to do with either to use it all at once due to how air sensitive they are.
Could you make a video about Ketamine? It’s very interesting to me and I’d love to Learn more about it and how it can effect your body and mind
I will put it on my list of topics - but also must not overdo the psychedelics or I might get flagged or something haha
This one time I took 15 blotter tabs at once.
The first time I ever used LSD I took a Ten strip.
The 1990's was trippy .
damn i think i will make my chemistry homework now
Thank you Mr. White!
Love watching theoretical videos such as these
nice video brah
Seems like the final product could use just another final recrystallization. And I wanted to note that late stage Pd cross coupling reactions in pharmaceuticals should be avoided when possible. Pd is quite toxic and all pharmaceuticals are subject to high level quality control and analysis of trace metals before distribution when Pd is around.
Yep, that's right! I briefly discuss this theme in another recent video on a deuterated pharmaceutical
This video is like a fly trap made by FBI
Anyways, love your channel
Can't wait for Hamilton to leave a friendly and encouraging comment on your channel and invite you to his discord
He's leaving comments already!
well great now im on some type of list
yeah the list of cool kids