Battery Powered Tattooing | What System To Buy
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If you are considering making the move to wireless tattooing, this episode is for you. Today, Jake (@pluguglyart) compares tattoo machine batteries from opposite ends of the spectrum. Although he completely botched the price comparison, (the cost of the Critical System is $500, not $600) we think this episode will provide all the info you need to make the best decision for your tattooing. Enjoy!
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Critical Batteries at Kingpin Tattoo Supply (link Below)
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Illusionist Batteries at Amazon
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Thank you for your Informative, Modest but professional Channel! Someday you gonna be one of the most best and popular tattoo channels
always love the content bro ! keep it up!
Thanks a lot!
Thanks, I'll use your links if I do indeed decide to get a couple of these.
Hello, I seen your other vid about continuous output amps. Do u know what’s the output amp for these critical connects? Thanks man I really enjoy your vids.
First, thank you for this breakdown! One question.. Do you know if the Critcal battery stops charging once it's done charging? If they're constantly on the charging dock, would it drain the battery usage? Sorry that's 2 questions 😅.
Does anyone know where to buy those illusionist batteries, or can recommend a different brand that is available?
Is there a problem running the cheaper batteries in a bishop wand packer? I've read it could mess up the coreless motor but I can't find anything solid that it would damage it. What does the critical batteries have in them that the cheap ones don't?
Great content, thank you
Hey Brother, thanks for the Information about the choices of battery power supply for our Machines.. I have been using the same Battery Power supplies as you. And I do love them. I am looking at getting the one's you're talking about. Yes, there's a price diffeenace, but yet still good quality. I love the RCA Jack verses the 3.5MM Wireless Jack. But I aswell gave up clip cords years ago & I've been Tattooing since 1995. But Hells Yeah man. Awesome quality Battery Power supply, and way better than cord. I clipped the cord years ago. Hopefully I can network with other Professional Tattoo Artists. I can't get past working with anyone who didn't go through an Apprenticeship. When someone comes up to me-asks questions about the industry and how much it's changed, the words I hear are,
((((( "OH HELL YEA MAN I have a "GUN" I been playing around with it and Tattooing people who just want Tattoo's, So this is my way of learning how to use my "GUN", I'm not paying for an Apprenticeship and the way I will be spoken too, degrading me and shit- no I will learn on my own because If You can do it, I can do it too"!)))))
Lets just say I can't...I JUST CAN'T talk to any-one people. who believes they're going to learn what "Tattoo 101" is all about. I'm sure anyone reading this hopefully has been through an apprenticeship and earned their right to Tattoo knows what I'm talking about. If you earned your right to Tattoo & how you learned was through an Apprenticeship, then the same feelings are mutual knowing that there has to be one way to be in this industry. And anyone trying to reinvent the wheel of NOT going through an appreticeship should not be buying any Tattoo Machines-Equipment, or using these Tools-which Tattooing is sacred to me and to be apart of because I learned how to tattoo from my 3 Year Apprenticeship.
Anyway.
I apppreciate the video, helped me out knowing a little more on these Powersupply Batteries I'm using for my Rotary Machines. I started using the ROCKET ROTARY MACHINE, WHICH IN MY OPINION IS TRULY A POWERFUL MACHINE. GREAT PERFORMANCE AND AMAZINGLY QUICK WHEN I'M TATTOOING.I use My Bishop Rotary Machines.- The,
"BISHOP WAND LINER"-
BISHOP WAND PACKER-
BISHOP FANTOM ROTARY MACHINE-
BISHOP MICROANGELO ROTARY MACHINE- MACHINES
And all are wireless, except for my Bishop "FANTOM" "MICROANGELO", BISHOP V6 ROTARY MACHINE. Can be set up for wireless, but besides that, I'm good. oF COURSE BEING AN OLD SCHOOL CAT I USE MY MICKY SHARPZ COIL MACHINES STILL BECAUSE THRY'RE SET CORRECT FOR INDIVIDUAL USE, LINING & SHADING. OF COURSE THIS IS A WHOLE OTHER TOPIC!
I appreciate your info again Thaks so much. Be safe. \m/
Why is the start up function important ? How does it help
Thanks for the review I hope you can do a six months later video on these critical batteries
Good idea. I'll do that!
I got a 2400 mah battery from solong tattoo i believe but ive tattooed for like 5 to 6 hours and it only goes down one bar ..it was 50 or 60 bucks
The Critical battery runs my Immortal Innovations Killer Bee without hesitation. None of the other packs I tried did that. I have 4 of the Hard Life Nucleus batteries as well. I like both, but the fact Critical let me do a RCA and a 3.5mm is what won me over. I can use my Sol Nova wireless now alongside my Xion or Inkjecta Nano.
$400 is a good Ink set and cartridges and more. I have two of the Dragon Hawk batteries that came with the Mast Pro Pen, both I chose to try a pen and wireless option. I have to say I love it. At a fraction of the price of high-end pens like the Xion and the Mast, set outlasts me on any full day of work. Also, I can buy any 4 of them at the price of the expensive alternatives. Thanks for an honest review.
Thanks for the tip!
I haven’t used one of these before but definitely want to check it out. Can you somehow use a foot pedal with it or does it just run continuously?
continuously
Amazon doesn't sell the Illusionist batteries anymore, but they have some counterfeit replacements that are reviewed much lower. I'm struggling finding a battery that I know will 100% compatible with my Dragonhawk Atom, since it seems like their RCA ports are very specific or something(?)
Truetube sells them officially now
I got one cheap tattoo battery for sale, exactly same as on video. U.K.. can put it on eBay. Bought 3 spare ones and I don’t need that many
Worked 2 full days with my crit bat pack and i ran it till it died, had over 10hrs running time and just beeped then stopped, no power loss or slowing down and easy to wrap inside a clip cord cover.
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback. That's super helpfule
I find machines that take a 18500 ion battery last double the time they are like 10$ I did 3 day 6 hr sessions on one charge. I think these battery packs are a money grab imo they don't last as long and when they die you have serious down time sending it in to the manufacturer . But you can get a good supply of 18500s and never have downtime. So I don't know. I think it's something to consider when venturing into the wireless world
@@chrisrobins2705 what machines
Can I ask what machine and what voltage? I used it on a FK Iron Xion at 8.4 and beeped on me after 5 hrs... defect? It was the first time using it so maybe the battery needs to drain all the way and then fully charge? Sorry for all the questions!
Bishop wand packer and axys valhalla. I have one battery that's a beast and the other dies after an hr. This is been after using for 2 yrs
I just bought a Critical shorty from Eternal Ink and this damn battery spins like the cheap amazon battery does!!! Does anyone else have this issue? I’m pissed because they don’t accept returns but this size is really nice
I have multiple rotary machine with clipcord connection, not rca. Do you thinks it would work connecting these battery with an RCA adapter? I wanna test it out but dont wanna to invest too much if its not gonna work.
Well, considering that the adapter is loose even with cable, I think that with the weight of the battery it will move a lot and kinda mess up with your tattooing
Couple of things left out, which is surprising as this should have been a more in depth review especially for a free product they got. 1. The weight for the Amazon battery is 2.4oz and the critical is 2 oz, I know they mentioned it but didn’t give specific numbers. 2. The critical battery is centered rca connection, so you don’t have the weight hanging behind you like a coil machine (personal preference of course. 3. The critical battery is a OLED display and shows remaining battery power and also beeps when you have a few minutes left to tattoo so you don’t just get a sudden cut out mid tattoo. 4. The dock isn’t required and you can just get one battery for $249.99 and the critical also has a 1 year warranty on it from a company that actually understands tattooing 4. The instant pause/resume feature on the critical is super cool especially if you’re someone like me who sets your machine down time to time, or likes the option to pause your machine when you dip in ink to avoid the dreaded bottom or side of ink cap splatter especially if you’re rocking a long stroke.Those are just a few things I thought as I watched this, yes it’s $249.99, but in my opinion you get what you pay for this time around. Love you fireside guys though! No hate! 👍🏻
Thanks for all that info!!!! You looking for a job? Seriously, I tend to overlook tons of valuable information. I really appreciate the input.
Try the Dragon Hawk Battery weight is 56g or 1.9 oz, Much cheaper too. Mine has lasted for almost a year and I just ordered 2 more. About $40 each and no base and you can run it plugged in with a USB cord.
These are things i was thinking as well, was also thinking it wouldve been a good idea to get a volt reader, to gauge how close each battery pack is to the number being displayed. That way you have a better understanding on which one is correctly working
The Amazon ones have the rca connection offset, so surely that will change the weight distribution slightly? Or is it pretty much unnoticeable?
It isn't very noticeable in regards to weight, but it does mess with me when the battery is pointing in a strange direction from the needle tip. (this happens until the RCA gets loose enough to spin like in the video.)
Yeah. I agree with Michael. It isn't really noticeable.
i bought an Illusionist battery from amazon 2 years ago. definite power lag compared to a "traditional" power supply, wont hold a charge, and dies really really fast. it was probably faulty but you get what you pay for.
U never said anything about the amp on both Machines
Hi, I have a bishop wand packer and want to try a Mars tattoo battery that uses 1800maH but im afraid it will ruin the motor. Here in peru its hard to have critical or bishop wireless. So any suggestions?
The battery says it has a chip to control short circuits or overcharge, so I don´t know. I just dont wanna fuck up my wand
@@highmonkeyy hey did you end up finding or using a cheap battery for your wand packer? I'm having the same problem- i have an illusionist, a bronc assassin & even a more expensive AVA W5 battery, but I'm nervous they will mess up the brushless motor in the packer. I have used it with the AVA battery for a couple hours with no problem though.
@@graffics7665 hi! I bought the AVA battery and worked fine, but was affraid it could burn the motor because wasn't sure about the electricity flux, so ended up buying the critical battery, trusting its reliability. More expensive but better quality
@@highmonkeyy Nice! Thanks for the quick response! I've been back & forth on what to get.. I hate to spend so much on a battery when I already have 5 of them that work great on all my other machines. I was leaning towards the bishop V2 battery for $200 but they just went out of stock- i was also looking at the Peak batteries but they seem like the same quality as AVA. I'll just stick with the cord with my packer for now until I get a premium battery.
Better safe than sorry!
Thanks for the great video's. Do you know if there are problems with kickstarting cartridges on Low Voltages (when stippling). I use the Bishop Wand Liner and Packer. The Shader doesn't seem to have this problem.
My Illusionist battery packs (both button versions) can't fire up my bishop wand liner. I found a couple of "budget" alternatives that work great though!
thank you
Thanks for watching!
I don't think I'm sold on this. At 500$ for a thing that is unavoidably disposable. "Lithium-ion batteries are, in essence, continuously degrading from the moment they are first used. This is as a result of the fundamental chemistry of the battery, which gives rise to unavoidable chemical reactions which take place inside the battery during runtime." Heat speeds that process up. Maybe if they will for a small fee replace the 18500 battery (most likely, just a guess) for a small fee(would have to be small). Then I might consider it. Actually it should just be a battery compartment that I can change out the batteries inside. At any rate $500 is too steep for a disposable product. For you, free is a great price.
I sat my 2 critical batteries w the docking station for about 6 months while using a new machine and when i went back to the Critical Dock and tried to use they were malfunctioning. Currently only one battery works. Seems like a waste for the price.
Thanks for sharing that. It’s Val important that tattooers, distributors and manufacturers hear this. My critical batteries are still working fine but I use them daily. Maybe that’s the difference.
Does your critical battery fit loose on your Neuma and occasionally cut out?
No. Mine fits super tight on the Neuma. Are you having issues with it?
it has happened to me. I just bought another battery and tossed the one that cut out.
Check out the altered ego battery pack on true tubes’ website or on the altered ego website. Top shelf battery on par with critical at only $100 per battery. I think they’re basically the same as the new Bishop batteries and wouldn’t be surprised if Bishop just bought these and rebranded them.
my fear of the amazon ones was that it might could damage to my machine ( xion) but it might just be in my head since u said u have been using them for years, defn want to try wireless but like u said the critical is quite steep price to try it out. thanks for the video, greetings from The Netherlands
The amazon batteries work fine in the xion.
Check out true tubes website or altered ego. They have a battery out that’s better than the illusionist and on par with the critical batteries for around $100 per battery. They fit easily In a standard clip cord sleeve ( unlike the illusionist) and still has the full voltage range. Best bargain in the current battery market IMO
@@studio42tattoos thanks i will defn check it out and see if i can get it here ( europe)
Any idea on how they work with Cheyenne hawk pen? Or if it’s safe to use
What swing arm/medical tray is that?
InkArm. It is essentially a retrofitted wall-mount computer monitor arm
@@MillionPM sweet thank you so much,also 1 critical battery pack on a Bishop Wand running 6.5-7.5 volts I get 10-12 session off a charge
Love the magic Amazon battery. 0-12 Volta lasts for at least 6 hours. Downside doesn’t show remaining power. Way better than paying a ridiculous 600 for batteries
You pay for what you get.i bet you tattooing people with ink and cartridges from amazon fucking scratcher
@Fitzroy Distant yea but he hever said amazon crap way better than criticals
@@vadims331 lmao. I have machines from mike pike, Adam ciferri, Aaron Cain. I also have an axys Valhalla and a neuma4. Inks I use are eternal and world famous. I use Cheyenne and dynasty cartridges. I apprenticed for 3 years. But yeah just assume I’m a scratcher who buys inks and machines from Amazon. Idiot
What is the voltage adjustment on those Amazon packs? It seems like all the cheapo battery packs only let you adjust by .5v or something weird. I like that the Critical can be adjusted by .1v.
Also don’t those critical packs pair with a wireless foot switch?
This particular Amazon battery is the only one I’ve seen that will let you adjust the voltage by .1 (that I’ve seen)!
I bought the cheaper ones from aliexpress for 45$ for 2, they work great!
Do you have a link you can post?
How long did you have them and work for you before they got messed up?
Good thing,I personally would have chosen,wireless battery of Stigma-pilot,by.
Haven't tried that one. I'll look into it. Thanks
They aren't available in the US yet, waiting for them to drop here.
Your cheap battery just squash the RCA connection slightly and it will tighten up.
No, it is so brittle that they actually snap.
@@MillionPM I did it with mine and it tightened it right up, just be gentle.
The magic from Amazon is the best I’ve used. Tight fit runs for at least 6 hours on up to 7.5 volts.
Yeah. I'm constantly squeezing the rca connection on those. It works for a little while but they are loose again after a couple of hours. It doesn't bother me that much. Just slightly annoying. Thanks!
@@FiresideTattooNetwork I just put a tiny dot of solder inside the edge of the rca outer ring. Tightens up perfectly and lasts.
How anyone still tattoos with a cord anymore is beyond me. After almost 20 years, im so fucking stoked to have been able to cut the cord. The cheep battery power works totally fine. There are way better packs than those illusionest ones for the same price.
I agree. Which do you prefer over the Illusonists?
I'm now just using the FLUX. But the batteries I used on my Xion don't even have a name. They're like $40Cdn on Amazon. They had clearer LEDS that even told you how much battery was left down to the percentage. And how long your session was. I miss that actually.
Link dont go to illusionist
there are no words to describe how much shit I get when I see and hear you
Critical, Bishop and Fk irons battery packs are ridiculously priced. Yea yea quality is pricey but put this into perspective.
A vaping mod device has build in batteries and a chipset to control voltage and Watts, these cost upto £60/70. So to price a battery pack thats the same price as a machine or even a mobile phone that has more tech involved is fkn ludicrous. £200 to £400 for a lithium battery and voltage chipset is FKN CRAZY. seriously!
my girfriend has a magnetic bottom too!!