@@clayjohnson5812 That cap why would the bulls trade a second best player for a rookie they just now getting his feet wet in a game after they just won a championship that would’ve been a stupid move by Jerry Krause if he would’ve made the trade it ain’t necessarily about taking somebody shine way is about keeping that team together so they can win a championship again T Mac can’t do half of what Scottie does on a defensive end
Shit is ridiculous. Most of the players that are still active should not have made that top 75 list yet. Respect to all of Dame and Davis but they should have been on that top 100 list. They left too many ppl off
You want a player that never made it out the first round once in his career (I don’t count when he signed with the Spurs at the end of the 2013 season and rode the bench during the playoffs) to make the 75 Greatest Players list? Your standards are in the mud
Tmac is a great player, but if I'm MJ and have to choose between trading my right hand man Scottie for a new dude Tmac.. come on, good choice MJ. 6 of 6 rings, facts!
Then think they get a young d rose thats like scottie and jordan all over again but more dynamic and athletic......prime drose and tmac on the same team eventually is crazy💪💯
@@PoeDaddyRay For sure. He needed another Superstar whether it be Scottie or Tracy McGrady. He chose Scottie. And he always spoke highly of Scottie in all of his interviews and speeches and says he couldn't have done it without him. He gave credit where credit was due. Scottie was just sour grapes because Michael got all the attention.
@@PoeDaddyRay Mike literally beat the Utah Jazz in game 6 in 98 without Scottie. The Bulls played that whole year without Scottie essentially and still won it all. So what are you talking about?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm from Chicago. Got lucky with Mj because they weren't guna take Mike until Bobby knight delt wit Mj after 84 Olympic. Krause ain't did crap since our gm the past 5 years held us down. #BIGFACTS
Just goes to show you Krause was planning to ruin that championship team all along, he got his wish the following year and they haven’t been back to the finals ever sense. lol
Huh? What I got from this was Krause was willing to get fresh new feet and ruin something that was PROVEN GREATNESS & the man that ran the show told him no sir you do that you’re doing it alone and that was that. Everyone knew Tmac was great?
Jerry Krause and Scottie Pippen had some MAJOR beef, thats why. MJ is the only reason shit never imploded between the two. TheYT channel Secret Base has a really good vid on the beef
Yeah I don't know about that MJ and T-mac would have made one hell of a tandom plus if he would have went to Chicago you never know he might've never got those knee injuries and his career would have lasted longer
Clueless take! MJ would have brought out greatness out of McGrady much sooner. Would have gotten him in the gym and likely led to less injuries for TMac.
@@hassan415 would have been crazy? What was the point of your comment then. If the man shut it down, why come back with that would have been crazy to learn from the goat if the goat didn’t want him there. Delete the comment.
I really believe once Jordan realized TMac potential that he might have stayed to win another championship. Scottie was becoming a problem complaining about his contract and sitting out to stick it to the Bulls.
So many sensitive fans MJ and Krause never got along for years Krause got all in his feelings and admit regret breaking up the dynasty after MJ retired
When you look at it.. you don't break up a team or try to fix it if it ain't broke.. you can add to it.. thats cool. Krause just made bad decisions in the Human resources department.. and treated them like numbers..
@@damonlaw8218A drafted team with a rebounding machine nobody in the league wanted to deal with. Phil had to convince Mike he would take care of Rodman
MJ made the right call! Scottie stayed more injury free in his career! If it was not for injuries Tmac would have been one of the all time greats! A injury free Tmac was a breast!
Bulls would probably had to give up Pippen in order for that to happen and they were in the middle of the 2nd tri-peat so it didn't make sense......Tracy had other opportunities later to be in a championship team and he didn't take them.
And if the Magic would of gave Tim Duncan that clause in his contract to allow his wife and fam to travel with him he def would of got a ring in Orlando
@@devincruz1128 bro I was a huge Phoenix Suns back then Robert Horry did a huge favor for the spurs hip checking Steve Nash lol for a while I hated the Spurs up till 2012
@@StoneColdGem I totally agree about 6th title but remember Scottie was complaining about money sitting out. I wonder with TMac, Rodman, Harper, Toni and rest of supporting cast how quickly it would need to rebuild to win another championship post Jordan/Pippen.
Naw I think TMac fans just romanticize about him because of this Talent. He never even got out the first round until he was a role player with the Spurs. So yea you kind of get slept on when most of your biggest accomplishments happened in the regular season and not the playoffs. Respectfully.
@@jaytravelz7487 dude that's such a tired ass argument ppl use about him. No he didn't your right. He also had to single handedly Carry a bunch of no name bums his entire stint in Orlando. Literally injuries are the only reason that he was slowed down by anyone. I mean at the end of the day, sure t-mac fans say these things... But you know who else celebrates his greatness and speaks as highly if not even more? Actual NBA basketball players! Kobe is on record saying he was the most difficult player he faced along with countless other legitimate talents that had an actual squad built around them. The only ppl that discredit his greatness are ppl like yourself that use the same reasoning every time "DuURrr T-MaC WaSnT ThAt GrEaT CuZ He DiDNt EvEn MaKe OuT ThE fIRsT RoUnD AnD CuZ He GoTs No RiNgS DuRr" lol honestly the most simple way of weeding out the ppl who's opinions hold the very least weight in discussions like this are the ones who have learned most everything they know by following the narrative of other ignorant cucks like yourself that have absolutely zero ability to comment or evaluate these types of things with any authenticity or originality. "Your" comment can be found verbatim many times over by countless other CZcams basketball analysts. You sir are a troll, And with all due respect... Go fuck yourself with a cactus. Good day to you
@@Wayvee. Saying a player had zero playoff success is not a “tired argument” it’s literally the reason he’s slept on! Greatness is not made in the regular season. Iverson literally became a legend because of 1 playoff run in 2001. But besides that why was TMac not an all time great defender like a Kobe? Did you know that he only averaged 17 pts Vs Kobe in his career? That’s because Kobe took matchups personally. Why didn’t he ever elevate his teams to be greater than the sum of their parts like Dirk did in 2011? He’s a legend because of that Run! And yes your right he got injured and that halted what could have been an even better career. But These are all legitimate reasons why he gets slept on. Which was your original statement. That’s all I’m saying Benny. No need to get in a hissy. It’s just basketball lol.
Lebron in the same situation: hey we can get a young star. Hell yeah! He’ll be great with me wade and bosh and ray Allen. MJ: bring him here and I’ll retire
LeBron playing against players inspired by Jordan, Kobe, t Mac etc. The level of talent is higher. Teams are better everywhere due to the growth of talent. Damn anyteam are contenders. Jordan was the MVP most seasons he played. Kobe was just as good as the other great players in the league with him. LeBron is the MVP most seasons in the midst of players that was influenced by him, Kobe, Jordan, Dr j, ai, Larry bird, curry etc. Stacked teams are the only teams in NBA history that created 3 plus ring dynasties. If it took stacked teams in Larry bird day to win multiple rings, then realistically with all the influence of previous players, in takes even greater teams to win 3 plus rings or a ring at all in today's league. None hoopers sleep on mchale, parish, worthy, Scott, Harper, Paxton, etc. Bashing and shaming world wide ranked all time greats benefits you none.
@@venusspacey9685 I’m going to disagree a little bit about contending teams. The league in the 80s and 90s had more contending teams. Especially the late 80s with the rise of the Bulls, Knicks, Jazz, blazers. The 90s was the most balanced era ever. The East and West was damn near even. Yes Chicago won 6 but look at those Knicks and pacers series the bulls barley made it out alive. Hell Utah choked against Chicago of anything. Today’s game has more talent from top to bottom. I would say this past season you didn’t really have superteams since the nets and lakers was a shit show. So i agree that this past post season a number of teams could’ve won the chip however depending on who gets KD that may change back to superteams galore. Which was the case from 2008-2019.
T-Mac is my favorite player of all time. I’ve learned of so many instances of how his greatness could’ve been utilized after he retired. It honestly sickens me.
I remember that free agency push back in 2000. We were so disappointed, Orlando got him and Grant hill. Never even tried with Duncan.😔 we ended up with Ron Mercer and Brent Barry.🤦🏾
@@9OrangeKush9 dude please don’t write when you do not know what you are talking about….trust me Jordan was not worried about that he was in his elite vest and no rookie would replace him… it was pippen they wanted to trade most likely
One thing I will say about Krause is he has one of the best eyes for talent. But he wanted so bad to prove that it's management that wins championship, he just went about it the wrong way.
Should be included in the top 75! Not the most accomplished, but he is iconic. When I was a kid in the Philippines, everyone knew Tmac! You can also say the same to VC!
Why would Mj want to get rid of Scottie his right hand man who he won 3 chips win. And then you say he’s stupid when they 3 peated after this like y’all just talk to talk
@@hesomelo5910mike never really cared about his team. He would have traded them. TMac was better than Pippen. If he would have been less injury prone, that would have been great. Mike was always ditching the team after he got what he wanted. He just knew T would have taken shine away from him. Scottie never really liked mike. You can tell by how he's about him.
@@AYSOne23 Besides scoring, what would McGrady offer that pippen couldn't? Based on your comment, I'm assuming you were there to know all of this. Is there any other stories you'd like to share? Also, after a 3peat, what sense does it make to trade a main component of your team? Pippen started talking shit once his book was ready to come out, trying to stir the pot.
I remember the draft that night and that was the news that came out “Jordan’s threatens bulls with retirement if Pippen was traded” but to find out near 30 years later it was for TMAC is crazy. 😮
I wonder though because Jordan might have gotten the best out of TMac mentally. Remember Scottie was the focal point with Jordan on the bench second team.
One of the worst mistakes he made and he was free agent he should have went to the bulls instead of the magic they had a better team maybe he would have won an MVP for the went with the bulls
@@jimmiebazz2586 And you didn't hear him say in 99 he was a free agent the draft was 97 mike was gone in 99 and he said 99-00 mike was gone and the bulls still had elton brand and some guys from the old 2nd 3pt days knowing Krause he would've built a team to compete now and for the future cause the bulls had some guys a young jamal Crawford LaMarcus Aldridge and Ron artest tyson chandler loul Deng kirk Heinrich Ben Gordon we just add another defensive guy in artest add in jamal Crawford and Ben Gordon to help with the scoring load off tmachave the twin towers in chandler and Aldridge with curry and pargo off the bench plus if we can drill get drove in a package deal for whoever had rode rights and we still keep Crawford Heinrich and ben plus we still get Noah or male a trade for either with our picks and or another guy from the squad and we still keep the main guys. We could very well have been at least dominating the east and beating the guys put west with that squad and some maturity we could've most definitely won 07 beat the lakers in 08 09 or 10 and the mavs in 11 12 13 we get rid of tmac chandler and Crawford and build around drose Aldridge and Noah ben Gordon is gone by now and we add in a Jimmy butler with a d.rose and Aldridge with luol Deng still have a rip Hamilton but Jerry Krause wouldve made it happen I'd tmac came it was very possible we have at least 9 rings maybe no 3pt but we most definitely wouldve had a ring in the 00s and one in the early 20teens thr mavs probably the thunder as well Miami wouldve gotten one in 2013 and the spurs get 1 in 2014 amd still competing butvits hypothetical and speculation but very realistic given the timeline we got and tmac telling the truth in 99 give tmac the keys then d.rose then it'll all be a smooth transition to compete again whi h guys like Goldens state is doing which is awesome cause realisticly that couldve been the bulls
Was almost on the Bulls with MJ. Was almost a Laker with Shaq and Kobe. Was almost joined on the joined Magic by Duncan. So many "almost" moments that likely would have made him a champion.
No he wasn’t … Bias was phenomenal but he wasn’t equal or better than MJ. It would have been nice to see those two battle for years. But honestly I don’t think that Bias would have had a long career, considering how he died..
@@kalltryone4823 Len didn’t have habits he tried drugs that first time and he died cause his body couldn’t handle it. He was a really good kid just around the wrong influence
@@t.bone26 so when I said habits I was just speaking on the drugs. But like he work effort. People he hung around. He literally needed out work Jordan. I didn't know that was his first time trying it tho.
MICHAEL JORDAN! Did not want T-Mac on the Team? Jerry Krause should have called MJ’s bluff, and made him retire, he would not have retired. MJ ain’t even in the GOAT debate anymore. MJ is a type of FRANKENSTEIN superstar, he was created by NIKE INC; NBA INC, and MULTI-MEDIA AD Agency’s of Madison Ave New York, and Hollywood California.
Jordan was in win mode, even though T Mac turned into a great player at the time he was just coming into the league, and I think that was in 1997. Jordan knew it would take a few years for T Mac to grow as a player, plus Jordan probably knew that he would only play a couple more years than hang it up.
Even Kobe respected him and said he’s the hardest guy he ever had to guard that should tell you something how are they going to leave Tmac out of the 75 smh they tripping
Tmac is my favourite player but I'm with MJ because He already knows how to play with Pippen and He already had the experience on the road to bigger competitions. The Bulls wouldve miss a puzzle if MJ didnt stop the trade.
That would have made my childhood but it was the best decision. TMAC is in my top 10 favorites. I'm still trying to figure out why I got made fun of for wearing his shoes and headbands he had while playing. I had all his gear. I loved his shoes with Adidas. Who the hell gets laughed at for wearing Tracy Mcgrady shoes.
Sorry but Scotty's versatility was unmatched. Bulls already had scoring. Their defensive toughness is what set them above. Ron Harpers defense puts Rodman made them defensive juggernaut.
Like I've always said, MJ was,and is a selfish hater. He's jealous of anyone who threatened his legacy. Guess what MJ? If not already there, LBJ is coming,and I mean fast.
@aaronstansberry So, after winning 5 championships, not wanting to trade the 2nd best player on the team for a guy coming straight out of high school makes one selfish? Regarding LBJ, he has too many blemishes on his legacy to ever to considered the GOAT IMO. He'll still be coming even after you die!!!
That would have been a HORRIBLE move for Chicago. TMac could barely win a playoff game and NEVER won a playoff series as a starter. NEVER! Scottie showed he could win many playoff series without Jordan.
Crazy that if they would have gotten tmac, and Jordan did retire, they would have still gotten rings and tmac would have overshadowed Jordan legacy and Jordan knows that
Do people in the comments not realize when T-Mac was drafted? It was the last year of the bulls dynasty . Had they gotten T-Mac they likely woulda had a better future
Seems like Jordan had Pippen’s back all along
Ayye! Don't say this in front of Pippen. He ain't believing that shit
Well Pippen should have got paid
@@user-gf9zu2ov9l He should’ve never signed that bullshit ass contract
Bullshit.Jordan didn't want nobody to take his shine.
@@clayjohnson5812 That cap why would the bulls trade a second best player for a rookie they just now getting his feet wet in a game after they just won a championship that would’ve been a stupid move by Jerry Krause if he would’ve made the trade it ain’t necessarily about taking somebody shine way is about keeping that team together so they can win a championship again T Mac can’t do half of what Scottie does on a defensive end
I still can’t believe they left TMaC out of the top 75. That shit ain’t right.
Shit is ridiculous. Most of the players that are still active should not have made that top 75 list yet. Respect to all of Dame and Davis but they should have been on that top 100 list. They left too many ppl off
Thank you. I commented the same on some other video. TMac was a beast
You want a player that never made it out the first round once in his career (I don’t count when he signed with the Spurs at the end of the 2013 season and rode the bench during the playoffs) to make the 75 Greatest Players list? Your standards are in the mud
And got James Harden in there!!! Straight joke
@@MS-ej8ye James harden is better than McGrady all time. He’s accomplished more
MJ wasn’t trying to fix something that wasn’t broken…
Exactly, mj was like we got this, i believe they could have 4 peated that last time
No. Jordan was about winning. We just win a ring and you want to tried a all nba player for a high schooler?
Agreed
Exactly
Was loyal to Pippin
Tmac is a great player, but if I'm MJ and have to choose between trading my right hand man Scottie for a new dude Tmac.. come on, good choice MJ.
6 of 6 rings, facts!
Couldve went 9 for 9 we 'll never know ^^
@@helpmehelpyou7184 stop it
TMac woulda helped MJ get more.
TMac wasn’t a two way player. And it was a couple years in before he became TMac. MJ made the right move
@@ranhill62 helped, you mean Carried. Rodman Carried Jordan, kukoc carried Jordan, Kerr carried Jordan.
TMac would’ve been the perfect understudy to take over the bulls after MJ and Scottie tho
Then think they get a young d rose thats like scottie and jordan all over again but more dynamic and athletic......prime drose and tmac on the same team eventually is crazy💪💯
Pippen wouldn't have been there. T-Mac would've replaced Pip via trade.
@@gregoryruffin5696 I know that but I'm saying d rose and Tracy would have been like Jordan and pip all over again literally 💯
Woulda been better then Shaq and kobe
Mike was looking out for Scottie.
Mike NEEDED Scottie .
@@PoeDaddyRay For sure. He needed another Superstar whether it be Scottie or Tracy McGrady. He chose Scottie. And he always spoke highly of Scottie in all of his interviews and speeches and says he couldn't have done it without him. He gave credit where credit was due. Scottie was just sour grapes because Michael got all the attention.
Looking out for himself......He established a comfort zone he wasn't ready to start over with a new guy, new attitudes.
@@yaohkhanandaout3292 good point.
@@PoeDaddyRay Mike literally beat the Utah Jazz in game 6 in 98 without Scottie. The Bulls played that whole year without Scottie essentially and still won it all. So what are you talking about?
That’s the best move MJ ever made as a manager
😂😂
I was the biggest tmac fan but hell naw tmac was never a team player it would have NEVER worked
Just goes to tell you that Krause is one of the best eyes for talent ever
No arguments there. Everything else… 😒
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm from Chicago. Got lucky with Mj because they weren't guna take Mike until Bobby knight delt wit Mj after 84 Olympic. Krause ain't did crap since our gm the past 5 years held us down. #BIGFACTS
Just goes to show you Krause was planning to ruin that championship team all along, he got his wish the following year and they haven’t been back to the finals ever sense. lol
Huh? What I got from this was Krause was willing to get fresh new feet and ruin something that was PROVEN GREATNESS & the man that ran the show told him no sir you do that you’re doing it alone and that was that. Everyone knew Tmac was great?
@@kevinburnss ok but you know tmac Is top 75 right?
Why would you tear apart a champion team. Repeating champions for a rookie, to basically try and start over? Makes zero sense.
I totally agree that would’ve been a dumb move by Jerry Krause
Jerry Krause and Scottie Pippen had some MAJOR beef, thats why. MJ is the only reason shit never imploded between the two. TheYT channel Secret Base has a really good vid on the beef
@@thomasingram8713 I’m definitely going to have to check that out.
That was a good business decision from MJ. Tmac is great but MJ needed to win right away with his age that.
No rookie should be placed anywhere near MJ. Best thing that ever happened to Tmac was not going to Chi.
Yeah I don't know about that MJ and T-mac would have made one hell of a tandom plus if he would have went to Chicago you never know he might've never got those knee injuries and his career would have lasted longer
Clown take , in 3 years how scottie pippen and Horace grant grew into deep playoff team with MJ
@@duddybuddy8553 at that point in MJs career he wouldnt have been a mentor to a rookie. He would have crushed the rookie. Win now at all cost.
Clueless take! MJ would have brought out greatness out of McGrady much sooner. Would have gotten him in the gym and likely led to less injuries for TMac.
Pippen Horace, BJ, Scott Williams and more were Rookies with Jordan and 3 or more time champs.
Mac playing with Jordan and learning from the goat would have been crazy.
He ain’t want him to learn from him tho!
@@dh22mr.heavyhanded15 we all just seen the video with him saying that. Didn’t need you to point that out 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@hassan415 would have been crazy? What was the point of your comment then. If the man shut it down, why come back with that would have been crazy to learn from the goat if the goat didn’t want him there. Delete the comment.
I really believe once Jordan realized TMac potential that he might have stayed to win another championship. Scottie was becoming a problem complaining about his contract and sitting out to stick it to the Bulls.
@@icouldntthinkofaname.1188 If Jordan okayed the trade people would be saying he is disloyal
Wow! The things we never know
So many sensitive fans MJ and Krause never got along for years Krause got all in his feelings and admit regret breaking up the dynasty after MJ retired
When you look at it.. you don't break up a team or try to fix it if it ain't broke.. you can add to it.. thats cool. Krause just made bad decisions in the Human resources department.. and treated them like numbers..
I see why the players wanted “control” but what’s happening now is nuts
If T Mac and Grant Hill did not get injured we would be talking about the four horsemen Michael Tracy Grant Kobe sorry LeBron
Dont forget about Brandon Roy and penny haerdaway. They're usually forgotten about due to their carrer imploding Injuries.
MJ never believed in building super teams. He wanted to beat all the great players,not team up with them
So what was Jordan scottie and Rodman
@damonlaw8218 is a guy with 7 ppg for his career. 😅. If lebrons teams weren't Superteams then MJ bulls definitely weren't 😅
@@damonlaw8218Rodman was nearly done
Stop the 🧢🧢🧢😂
@@damonlaw8218A drafted team with a rebounding machine nobody in the league wanted to deal with. Phil had to convince Mike he would take care of Rodman
“If y’all do that I’m retiring” Jordan be quick to retire 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bulls management: again Michael 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
MJ made the right call! Scottie stayed more injury free in his career! If it was not for injuries Tmac would have been one of the all time greats! A injury free Tmac was a breast!
Bulls would probably had to give up Pippen in order for that to happen and they were in the middle of the 2nd tri-peat so it didn't make sense......Tracy had other opportunities later to be in a championship team and he didn't take them.
And if the Magic would of gave Tim Duncan that clause in his contract to allow his wife and fam to travel with him he def would of got a ring in Orlando
They definitely was gonna have to give up scottie in order to bring in Tmac
@@veniljackson47 or when he was on our spurs 2013 squad and we came up short in the finals☠️☠️
@@devincruz1128 bro I was a huge Phoenix Suns back then Robert Horry did a huge favor for the spurs hip checking Steve Nash lol for a while I hated the Spurs up till 2012
@@devincruz1128 they should've let T Mac play in that serious.
T-Mac would have went through HELL playing alongside MJ in the late 1990s as a rookie
We could only imagine how much better T Mac would've been learning and being pushed by MJ. Crazy!!
people hate Jerry but he made some moves. I love Scottie but TMac would have continued winning after Jordan.
Imagine having T-Mac then Derrick Rose...think about it😬
@@piggy5677 Ben Gordon was before Derrick Rose
Jordan wasn’t having that lmao 🤣
It would've went down the drain without Pippen, MJ wouldn't won his 6th title
@@StoneColdGem I totally agree about 6th title but remember Scottie was complaining about money sitting out. I wonder with TMac, Rodman, Harper, Toni and rest of supporting cast how quickly it would need to rebuild to win another championship post Jordan/Pippen.
At the peak of his powers before injuries McGrady was simply AWESOME.
I keep telling y'all Mike was a hater 😒 SMH....
A hater? More like looking out for Pippen.
What is there to hate on?
Man stfu why would he want his best friend and best teammate gone for a rookie
Jordan fans don’t want no parts of that logic. 😭
@@wright7680 Logic is to break a team that's won 3 consecutive titles, apart.
T-Mac is sooooooo slept on🤦🏾♂️
Literally #1 most 💤😴 on imo bro
Naw I think TMac fans just romanticize about him because of this Talent. He never even got out the first round until he was a role player with the Spurs. So yea you kind of get slept on when most of your biggest accomplishments happened in the regular season and not the playoffs. Respectfully.
@@jaytravelz7487 dude that's such a tired ass argument ppl use about him. No he didn't your right. He also had to single handedly Carry a bunch of no name bums his entire stint in Orlando. Literally injuries are the only reason that he was slowed down by anyone. I mean at the end of the day, sure t-mac fans say these things... But you know who else celebrates his greatness and speaks as highly if not even more? Actual NBA basketball players! Kobe is on record saying he was the most difficult player he faced along with countless other legitimate talents that had an actual squad built around them. The only ppl that discredit his greatness are ppl like yourself that use the same reasoning every time "DuURrr T-MaC WaSnT ThAt GrEaT CuZ He DiDNt EvEn MaKe OuT ThE fIRsT RoUnD AnD CuZ He GoTs No RiNgS DuRr" lol honestly the most simple way of weeding out the ppl who's opinions hold the very least weight in discussions like this are the ones who have learned most everything they know by following the narrative of other ignorant cucks like yourself that have absolutely zero ability to comment or evaluate these types of things with any authenticity or originality. "Your" comment can be found verbatim many times over by countless other CZcams basketball analysts. You sir are a troll, And with all due respect... Go fuck yourself with a cactus. Good day to you
@@Wayvee. Saying a player had zero playoff success is not a “tired argument” it’s literally the reason he’s slept on! Greatness is not made in the regular season. Iverson literally became a legend because of 1 playoff run in 2001. But besides that why was TMac not an all time great defender like a Kobe? Did you know that he only averaged 17 pts Vs Kobe in his career? That’s because Kobe took matchups personally. Why didn’t he ever elevate his teams to be greater than the sum of their parts like Dirk did in 2011? He’s a legend because of that Run! And yes your right he got injured and that halted what could have been an even better career. But These are all legitimate reasons why he gets slept on. Which was your original statement. That’s all I’m saying Benny. No need to get in a hissy. It’s just basketball lol.
@@jaytravelz7487 False. He averaged a lot more than 17 against Kobe.
So Oprah has failed before SMH I thought that was a myth
When I was a kid he was one of my favs too.
Lebron in the same situation: hey we can get a young star. Hell yeah! He’ll be great with me wade and bosh and ray Allen.
MJ: bring him here and I’ll retire
LeBron playing against players inspired by Jordan, Kobe, t Mac etc. The level of talent is higher. Teams are better everywhere due to the growth of talent. Damn anyteam are contenders. Jordan was the MVP most seasons he played. Kobe was just as good as the other great players in the league with him. LeBron is the MVP most seasons in the midst of players that was influenced by him, Kobe, Jordan, Dr j, ai, Larry bird, curry etc. Stacked teams are the only teams in NBA history that created 3 plus ring dynasties. If it took stacked teams in Larry bird day to win multiple rings, then realistically with all the influence of previous players, in takes even greater teams to win 3 plus rings or a ring at all in today's league. None hoopers sleep on mchale, parish, worthy, Scott, Harper, Paxton, etc. Bashing and shaming world wide ranked all time greats benefits you none.
@@venusspacey9685 I’m going to disagree a little bit about contending teams. The league in the 80s and 90s had more contending teams. Especially the late 80s with the rise of the Bulls, Knicks, Jazz, blazers. The 90s was the most balanced era ever. The East and West was damn near even. Yes Chicago won 6 but look at those Knicks and pacers series the bulls barley made it out alive. Hell Utah choked against Chicago of anything.
Today’s game has more talent from top to bottom. I would say this past season you didn’t really have superteams since the nets and lakers was a shit show. So i agree that this past post season a number of teams could’ve won the chip however depending on who gets KD that may change back to superteams galore. Which was the case from 2008-2019.
At least he didn’t threat to retire. That means he was half way out form the beginning if he was always threatening to retire
T-Mac is my favorite player of all time.
I’ve learned of so many instances of how his greatness could’ve been utilized after he retired. It honestly sickens me.
Dude just scored that’s it
My guy T Mac my brother. Good dude . Nice to have met him and hung out
I remember that free agency push back in 2000. We were so disappointed, Orlando got him and Grant hill. Never even tried with Duncan.😔 we ended up with Ron Mercer and Brent Barry.🤦🏾
Mike knew pippen would commit to both ends of floor. He understood scoring is not enough to win chips
Most likely at that time he was trying not to get replaced
@@9OrangeKush9 dude please don’t write when you do not know what you are talking about….trust me Jordan was not worried about that he was in his elite vest and no rookie would replace him… it was pippen they wanted to trade most likely
@@9OrangeKush9 Imagine believing that
Jordan made the right call. T Mac didn’t play defense or even hustle on certain plays.
He was an offensive beast ..
@@katinawhitley9340 so was monta Ellis lol
One thing I will say about Krause is he has one of the best eyes for talent. But he wanted so bad to prove that it's management that wins championship, he just went about it the wrong way.
Should be included in the top 75! Not the most accomplished, but he is iconic. When I was a kid in the Philippines, everyone knew Tmac! You can also say the same to VC!
TMac was extremely skillful…MJ was wrong! If he wasn’t hurt, he would be one of top 5.
Facts
Top 5 is lofty and I love TMac. He definitely should be top 75 but was left off the list.
MJ was right, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
MJ and Krause relationship been fragile for years
Man. TMac and MJ would have been unstoppable. MJ stupid asf for this. He probably would have played longer. MJ has a ginormous ego.
And you have to beat the best to be the best. He didn't want to play with one of the best he wanted to beat them to hold that title of the best
@@GODEXAULTS no MJ just doesn't know talent, thats why the hornets suck
Why would Mj want to get rid of Scottie his right hand man who he won 3 chips win. And then you say he’s stupid when they 3 peated after this like y’all just talk to talk
@@hesomelo5910mike never really cared about his team. He would have traded them. TMac was better than Pippen. If he would have been less injury prone, that would have been great. Mike was always ditching the team after he got what he wanted. He just knew T would have taken shine away from him. Scottie never really liked mike. You can tell by how he's about him.
@@AYSOne23 Besides scoring, what would McGrady offer that pippen couldn't? Based on your comment, I'm assuming you were there to know all of this. Is there any other stories you'd like to share? Also, after a 3peat, what sense does it make to trade a main component of your team? Pippen started talking shit once his book was ready to come out, trying to stir the pot.
I remember the draft that night and that was the news that came out “Jordan’s threatens bulls with retirement if Pippen was traded” but to find out near 30 years later it was for TMAC is crazy. 😮
T-Mac would never be a good fit for the Bulls. Look in Houston..T-Mac didn’t do much..
I wonder though because Jordan might have gotten the best out of TMac mentally. Remember Scottie was the focal point with Jordan on the bench second team.
One of the worst mistakes he made and he was free agent he should have went to the bulls instead of the magic they had a better team maybe he would have won an MVP for the went with the bulls
Do you hear TMack say MJ put a stop to him coming like he did Isiah and the human highlight from the Dream team..
Bulls had the refectory chemistry without any additional superstars
@@jimmiebazz2586 And you didn't hear him say in 99 he was a free agent the draft was 97 mike was gone in 99 and he said 99-00 mike was gone and the bulls still had elton brand and some guys from the old 2nd 3pt days knowing Krause he would've built a team to compete now and for the future cause the bulls had some guys a young jamal Crawford LaMarcus Aldridge and Ron artest tyson chandler loul Deng kirk Heinrich Ben Gordon we just add another defensive guy in artest add in jamal Crawford and Ben Gordon to help with the scoring load off tmachave the twin towers in chandler and Aldridge with curry and pargo off the bench plus if we can drill get drove in a package deal for whoever had rode rights and we still keep Crawford Heinrich and ben plus we still get Noah or male a trade for either with our picks and or another guy from the squad and we still keep the main guys. We could very well have been at least dominating the east and beating the guys put west with that squad and some maturity we could've most definitely won 07 beat the lakers in 08 09 or 10 and the mavs in 11 12 13 we get rid of tmac chandler and Crawford and build around drose Aldridge and Noah ben Gordon is gone by now and we add in a Jimmy butler with a d.rose and Aldridge with luol Deng still have a rip Hamilton but Jerry Krause wouldve made it happen I'd tmac came it was very possible we have at least 9 rings maybe no 3pt but we most definitely wouldve had a ring in the 00s and one in the early 20teens thr mavs probably the thunder as well Miami wouldve gotten one in 2013 and the spurs get 1 in 2014 amd still competing butvits hypothetical and speculation but very realistic given the timeline we got and tmac telling the truth in 99 give tmac the keys then d.rose then it'll all be a smooth transition to compete again whi h guys like Goldens state is doing which is awesome cause realisticly that couldve been the bulls
tracy wouldn’t be tracy today if he went to the bulls, tracy is a superstar, if he had mj on his team, he wouldn’t be as good as he was
You don't know that for a fact. Jordan pushed Pippen to work hard, im sure it would have been the same for T-Mac.
Was almost on the Bulls with MJ.
Was almost a Laker with Shaq and Kobe.
Was almost joined on the joined Magic by Duncan.
So many "almost" moments that likely would have made him a champion.
Jerry had an eye for talent
Mj better be glad Len Bias didn't make it to the league,he was MJ's eaqual.
Even if Len made it an didnt change his habits. I think MJ would have still over shadow him.
Mike ain’t losing shit to some drug addict lmaooooo
No he wasn’t … Bias was phenomenal but he wasn’t equal or better than MJ. It would have been nice to see those two battle for years. But honestly I don’t think that Bias would have had a long career, considering how he died..
@@kalltryone4823 Len didn’t have habits he tried drugs that first time and he died cause his body couldn’t handle it. He was a really good kid just around the wrong influence
@@t.bone26 so when I said habits I was just speaking on the drugs. But like he work effort. People he hung around. He literally needed out work Jordan. I didn't know that was his first time trying it tho.
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And Scottie been hating on the man too. Threatened to retire
T Mac been holding on to alot of stories, he spilling beans now that he didn't make Top 75 All Time
Oh… Bruh I was wondering where all of these stories resonated.
@@therealtimellis7317 yea he don't care no more he telling everything while humble bragging too
Mike stay hating
He wanted the competition
Great insight. Who would of known?
And u went to Houston 😭
Orlando first then Houston
@@jsanders9975 didn’t he get traded to Orlando or he picked Orlando too?
I remember that too, back in 97’.
Mike was looking out for Mike, not Scottie, y'all 🤡🤡🤡
It's a big difference between Oprah speaking to you an Jordan wanting you on the team.
And after all that this nigga went to Orlando 🤦🏿♂️
And no r0ngs
You can’t say this squad wouldn’t have been crazy lit lmao
Mike ain't want nobody taking the shine off his bald ahh head. T Mac is my favorite player all time 💯💪🏾🔥
It sounded like they wanted Tmac sooooo bad bro. MJ and Scottie 6from6
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But when Lebron traded Wiggins as a rookie he was highly criticized
Scottie and Vince in Toronto, Jordan and Tmac with the Bulls. That would’ve been crazy.
What makes this story even more crazy is the fact that Jordan retired after the ‘97-‘98 season anyway.😮🤷🏾♂️
They still traded Scottie imagine Jordan retires anyway Bro 😎 and it’s Scottie & TMAC!!!!!! 😎
He was hurt MJ made that call. Look at his face with that chuckle 😆
Jerry was a all time great talent picker
I can’t believe Tmac played for Raptors alongside his cousin Vince Carter
MICHAEL JORDAN! Did not want T-Mac on the Team? Jerry Krause should have called MJ’s bluff, and made him retire, he would not have retired. MJ ain’t even in the GOAT debate anymore. MJ is a type of FRANKENSTEIN superstar, he was created by NIKE INC; NBA INC, and MULTI-MEDIA AD Agency’s of Madison Ave New York, and Hollywood California.
Jordan was in win mode, even though T Mac turned into a great player at the time he was just coming into the league, and I think that was in 1997. Jordan knew it would take a few years for T Mac to grow as a player, plus Jordan probably knew that he would only play a couple more years than hang it up.
Even Kobe respected him and said he’s the hardest guy he ever had to guard that should tell you something how are they going to leave Tmac out of the 75 smh they tripping
Chicago was trying to trade Jud Buechler for TMac.
MJ a real one for holding it down like that.
Tmac is my favourite player but I'm with MJ because He already knows how to play with Pippen and He already had the experience on the road to bigger competitions. The Bulls wouldve miss a puzzle if MJ didnt stop the trade.
NBA missed the new Chicago duo Kobe and Tmac
TMac really be feeling himself though!
And why wouldn't he be? T-mac was a rare talent.
@@Wayvee. ... who didn't accomplish shit.
Tracy and MJ whoa that would've been crazy
My favorite offensive player, no matter the absence of rings.
That would have made my childhood but it was the best decision. TMAC is in my top 10 favorites. I'm still trying to figure out why I got made fun of for wearing his shoes and headbands he had while playing. I had all his gear. I loved his shoes with Adidas. Who the hell gets laughed at for wearing Tracy Mcgrady shoes.
So basically Jerry Krause was MJ's Assistant General Manager. 😂
That sucked for the Bulls organization. That trade would’ve cemented the future. And they still probably would’ve won the Championship.
Yo jerry Krause was really making moves lol
He is talking about draft night, man the Bulls didn't think no T Mac was better than Scottie
Sorry but Scotty's versatility was unmatched. Bulls already had scoring. Their defensive toughness is what set them above. Ron Harpers defense puts Rodman made them defensive juggernaut.
Most underrated player of all time… T-Mac 🤞🏾💯💪🏾
Should have went to Chicago. Would have won more and been an even bigger star. He would dominate this league now.
TMac is my all time favorite and playing with MJ would have destroyed the league like the warriors have done.
Jordan knew he couldn’t win without Pippen I give credit to Jordan for keeping it real to himself. He’s never won shiii without Pippen smart man.
It would've been nice if they could've worked out a trade that allowed them to keep pippen and add tmac
This potentially could've meant more championships depending on who they draft at 6, since they were going to get tmac at 3.
Like I've always said, MJ was,and is a selfish hater. He's jealous of anyone who threatened his legacy. Guess what MJ? If not already there, LBJ is coming,and I mean fast.
Lmaooooooooooooooooo
Jordan was a prick but Lebron ain’t touching the man
Jordan is trembling as we speak.
@aaronstansberry So, after winning 5 championships, not wanting to trade the 2nd best player on the team for a guy coming straight out of high school makes one selfish? Regarding LBJ, he has too many blemishes on his legacy to ever to considered the GOAT IMO. He'll still be coming even after you die!!!
Man all these chumps coming out seem like they on board with the agenda to diminish Michael Jordan 🐐 image.
If I could pick a team he'd be my 3rd pick behind Jordan and Olajuwon. I could take those 3 and beat any 5
That would have been a HORRIBLE move for Chicago. TMac could barely win a playoff game and NEVER won a playoff series as a starter. NEVER! Scottie showed he could win many playoff series without Jordan.
The power of the “JUMPMAN”
Crazy that if they would have gotten tmac, and Jordan did retire, they would have still gotten rings and tmac would have overshadowed Jordan legacy and Jordan knows that
Jerry Krause as weird as he was had an incredible eye for talent
Him going to Orlando was a big mistake. I understand he wanted to be in his home town. But sometimes going back home isn’t the best decision
YO that would have been I'll if Tmac would have been a Chicago Bull. He's my 2nd favorite player of all time.
If Oprah had a personalized message for TMac, this is had to be too expensive just to not happen
Do people in the comments not realize when T-Mac was drafted? It was the last year of the bulls dynasty . Had they gotten T-Mac they likely woulda had a better future
And he in the hall of fame but y’all ain’t give my man the 75th
Damn!…
“He had Pippen’s back” MJ did not give AF about Scottie. He didn’t want to play second fiddle to Tmac…
How you know?
Literally what the Knicks are trying to do to Donovan Mitchell right now lol