FreeSync on Nvidia GPUs Tested, Does It Work Properly?
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FreeSync on Nvidia GPUs Tested, Does It Work Properly?
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Great breakdown and analysis Tim! Works as it should... we don't hear that enough now a days :)
except the fact that nvidia compatible freesync screens will probably go up in price now other than that it is a good thing they only did this too because intel said they would support freesync
@@jamesharnish650 True - and wouldn't G-Sync monitors possibly drop in price because folks are buying compatible freesync monitors instead? Perhaps the price will even out somewhere in the middle.
Do you think Nvidia had been force to except freesync because the monitor manufactures haven't been making money from G-sync and BFF?
Nice to see you here, man :)
And I totally agree with works as it should. -Crap- FreeSync = crappy sticker that guaranties exactly nothing. There is no minimum requirement, means even 59-60 range can be labled with CrapSync. The sad part is there are quite a few "narrow" range monitors out there.
I am "fortunate" to have one of the more expensive CrapSync monitors with the crap experience - Samsung CF971 (paid ~800 euro for it couple of years ago) and a GTX1070.
Guess what - everything works great until I try to enable CrapSync. The issues range from flickering to just a black screen depending on the app/game and the mode (full screen/windowed). The funny thing is that black screen (GPU and monitor cannot connect) occurs even when enabling the adaptivesync.
Bottom line, AS A CONSUMER, I'd be willing to pay a a bi more just to have the tech certified to provide desired experience.
That's your silly fault for buying Nvidia then... ;)
Good stuff! This development should save me a good amount of cash on my next monitor. :)
Just go amd
@@chriswright8074 how? If they are nvidia minus ten percent, then maybe.... Until then nvidia or nothing. BTW I hate them, too
@@chriswright8074 Well, with this development, there's actually one less reason for me to switch to AMD, now. That said...I'll still wait to see what Navi has to offer before upgrading my GPU.
Make sure it's got display port because they don't support HDMI and DVI is removed from the new RTX cards.
Navi is going to be significantly better price/performance, but probably not better raw performance. Should come right up to a 1080/RTX 2070 @@turbofanlover
Sweet content. Been waiting for this one for a few days now!
Best explanation of this new feature/update on CZcams imo. Thanks for getting right to the point and no BS. Subbed.
Cheers.
Damn this was a really well done video, pretty much explained everything I needed to know. Thanks!
couldnt watch the whole thing....does it work with any monitor and any nvidia gpu?
A monitor also automatically fails Nvidia's testing if FreeSync isn't enabled by default in the monitor's settings.
omair arif True, so that’s why so monitors failed the test lmao.
Noobish check this from 1:24 czcams.com/video/jqkIrhG0TcE/video.html
Heh, so that's how they got acceptance rates to be so low.
In my opinion Tim is wrong calling monitors with narrow adaptive sync fps range as "perfectly ok" (simply it doesn't adhere to G-Sync standards, and those with the sticker do, so you pay premium to have that covered... It's called capitalism), but on the other hand Nvidia's perquisite that the monitor should have adapt-sync enabled by default is the most stupid requirement i have ever heard. But if manufactures simply change that default option in the menu and then pay Nvidia for the sticker, then they will magically become G-Sync compatible. That is total BS indeed.
@@FactLOCO
The Freesync range is part of the spec and if a monitor operates within spec it is indeed running perfectly fine.
By mentioning the monitors freesync range and saying weather it will support lfc or not, he did all he had to do.
Awesome that you're doing this. I hope eventually we'll get a list of people that actually tested all of them.
I'm currently in the market for a new display (since my secondary broke down). But because I have no idea what would work or wouldn't work on my 1080, it's kinda messed up.
Since I'm not going to throw down €600+ for a new monitor with g-sync. (need minimal 31inch and 1440p res.)
"freesync just doesn't work" jensen huang
The irony is hilarious, isn't it? Freesync "just works" and RTX & DLSS needs a lot of back end programming to make it "just work..." somewhat.
Woop
@@uncleelias And your point is? You are comparing apples with oranges. If you want to compare freesync with something, it should be G-Sync not RTX or DLSS. And just to state the facts, g-sync is better. If you want to compare DLSS with something that should be MSAA, FXAA, SMAA, or TXAA. And guess what, those require "programming" too.
Uncle Elias How can you even compare those technologies in good faith 🤦♂️
it doesn't work on my LG 29UM68-P with a GTX 1070
Thanks!
Might pick up a free sync monitor since they aren't too expensive!
Send this to Jensen on twitter.
7 inches soft oh yea yea
@@kirxoff8440 spare me the memes kids. but there i changed it
@@RoyalJesusChrist You never asked for this.
Very informative as always. Thank you.
Great video! Exactly the breakdown that I was hoping to see.
Great analysis Tim. Do you expect Nvidia to stop producing g-sync monitors or at least lower the price premium? I still don't see how this benefited Nvidia in any way.
you are the only channel covering this for some reason, thank you
Great video! I’m currently using G sync with my GTX 1070 and my Asus Strix XG27VQ Freesync monitor, for the last two days every game has worked flawlessly using adaptive sync. I love it!
Great video! Thank you very much for the information. This is exactly what I was trying I figure, and you presented the information without any roundabout answers. Thank you!
nice video,
can you take a deeper dive into freesync 2 and adaptiv Nvidia sync input lag analisys, thanks great chanel
Of course it only work with Pascal or Turing since they are the only ones they sell. Lucky for the surplus of Pascal stock, otherwise I am sure they would advertise this as a Turing "feature".
Very informative video Tim. Thank you for your efforts
love the support you guys are getting on every vid
After seeing this, and after buying a Gsync monitor about 4 months ago... I have to say I actually feel like Gsync is a scam.
always was a scam since freesync did the same thing only Ngreedia chose not to enable it on their cards :(
I bought a G-sync monitor with the same specs as my "old" Freesync display one week before this announcement, the Nvidia panel with the same display/specs? $600... Freesync? $350..
@@lollotrollo3268 A scam? You obviously don't know that G-Sync is adaptive across the ENTIRE refresh rate spectrum (1-144hz+) while FreeSync is only partial (usually 48-144hz). You get what you pay for.
Don't... I'm actually about to attempt to return my freesync monitor, because of massive flickering both on AMD, and now on nVidia. At least if you buy a decent Gsync monitor, you don't have to worry it won't work.
@@neosabre False, the lowest I've seen a G-sync Panel go on it's advertised adaptive refreshrate is 30.
@UnderdesertCamelX - Then you didn't do your research or got unlucky, my "old" Freesync display which costs $350 was perfect without any issues what so ever, no flickering or anything.
G-sync panel with the SAME TN Panel?(The cheapest 1440p G-sync display I could get) was $600 and does have flickering below 60 hertz. 2 of these displays do the same thing, Predator XB271HU.
G-Sync has no guarantee despite Nvidia's claims, oh also the G-sync display had absolutely unacceptable colors on both displays which would have prompted me to make an RMA request except after changing multiple individual color brightness, contrast, and gamma for each Red, Green, and Blue channel to get rid of the total red wash (Black was RED, Grey was RED) it's disgusting but after all of the above values being adjusted individually it looks like my "old" display, the only 2 settings that are the same across all RGB channels is the gamma/brightness on the Red and Green Channel. - Literally everything else is different because like I said I had to manually edit ALL variables to get a decent image.
For those buying a monitor in 2021 and wonder if HDMI is supported by now:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10 series (Pascal) and higher GPUs supports VESA Adaptive-Sync variable refresh rate over the DisplayPort 1.2a standard.
NVIDA GeForce GTX 16 series/RTX 20 series (Turing) and higher will support variable refresh rate over HDMI on displays which support this feature over HDMI 2.1.
Really good video, thanks for this info! It is hugely helpful for me currently as I am looking for a new monitor!!!
Good point made through this video. A list of the monitors you tested in the description would have been nice though!
FREESYNC 💪
It just works (really)
Yeah cos amd cards are ace
@@soulsbourne Also the regular Gsync modules are kinda trash, especially on 4K monitors. They are limited to HDMI 1.4 (only 4K 30Hz over HDMI, consoles won't run at 4K) and aren't HDCP 2.2 compliant (no 4K Netflix). Those are pretty big negatives imo. Gsync Ultimate HDR is pretty good, they fix both of those things and add a bunch more, but the monitors are like $2000 and the Gsync modules run hot (requiring a fan in your monitor).
I was so surprised that I received a “gsync compatible monitor” message with my freesync monitor after updating my gtx 1080Ti drivers.
I am so glad I found your video. Your explanation has certainly helped me out. I am not that much into gaming, but at the same point I do care about what I'm looking at in the things I do.
I've been using the freesync over GSync (GTX 1060 6GB) with an AOC c24g1 at 144hz, capped the fps at 139, and switched on vsync, it really does look so much smoother and targets are easier to follow, but I have noticed that my eyes definitely strain more quickly, although there are no visible flickers or anything weird that I can notice, so other than the quicker eye strain it works like a bomb
Excellent presentation. You just saved me 350 dollars on a G-Sync monitor.
BudgetBassHead so do NVIDIA gpus work perfectly with free sync?
Yeah i have the same question cause im gonna buy one
Emilis Maliukevicius did you buy one? And if so how’s the experience? I have a 2070 super I wanna get the dell s2719dgf it isn’t listed as g sync compatible so that’s why I’m skeptical
@@tinocabral4201 I didint buy a monitor yet, but i am going to buy I searched ur monitor I think its a pretty good choise, yes the g-sync isin't mentioned but u can enable it cuz it has freesync, so you can go from freesync to gsync
@@tinocabral4201 If the monitor has freesync that means u can go gsync too the gsync thing is like a trick so people would buy the gsync monitors wich are overpriced af, there ar tutorials to enable gsync you can go search it up
In my screen XF270HU it works with a nvidia 1050 ti just fine. In the end it was just marketing from Nvidia to try and squeeze the customers even more with their expensive chip.
Weve been playing on $200 freesync monitors for years 😂
tell that to the countless people having blanking and pulsing issues with it enabled.
@@flandrble I am just sharing my experience with it. So far it's working fine for me. Maybe in the next drivers more problems will be solved.
@@flandrble well tell that to nvidia lol.
i have the xf270hua, so i expect its basically the same model as you, hopefully it will work for me.
but i don't need it much in exclusive fullscreen mode, i need it most for fullscreen windowed mode and window mode. 1080ti here.
Dude thank you. I was gonna get a gsync monitor but your one of just a few Videos showing how to use amd FreeSync with a geforce care. Saved me a lot of money bud!
Very useful video! Thanks!
My Nixeus EDG 27 works perfectly with G-Sync on my 1070 ti
Tried on my 4K benq monitor even with a 40-60 range looks awesome with my 1080ti
Edit I just realized he tested my monitor lol
*Jensen to fanbase:* it just works for real now
Thanks for the help. I had to dig into the menu on my monitor to toggle over to freesync mode. Have had my monitor for about a year and never noticed that menu. Didn't matter much until now I suppose since I couldn't use the freesync until now with my 1080. After doing that the setup g-sync tab appeared. Played 20 minutes or so of Dark Souls III and didn't notice any issues or the occasional stutter I usually get once and a while. Will need to play longer to test it more, but if it fixes that issue that would be really awesome.
thx for your work! learned stuff today ;D
So flickering and other issues were just lies. Great
Can confirm flickering on my monitor actually
Unfortunately my 240hz acer monitor randomly goes to a black screen and then comes back after a couple of seconds.
it depends on the monitor its differnet for every one so yea still figuring out which one works
Nope!!
I suggest you read forums on both Nvidia and AMD on certain monitors, its not made up. Just google freesync flickering and you'll find plenty of results.
I have had an AOC 1440p 165hz G-Sync monitor for about 8 months, and it has started blanking lately. Not sure what to do about it.
You can try AOC support, but speaking from experience, they're atrocious. As it's under 12 months, you should be covered by the guarantee from the website/shop you bought it from.
warranty d00h?
@@piers389 Microcenter only has like 30 day returns and I didn't pay $90 for an extended warranty.
@@BloodDjimon614 Consumer protection laws are bad in the US. I live in the UK.
@@BloodDjimon614 AOC should provide the warranty directly for at least 1 year. Contact AOC...
great tutorial,helped alot!
Loved the explanation ❤️
They only support 1/3 of adaptive sync because only display port is supported. DVI is removed from new cards and No HDMI support. Calculated move?
Of course it is. Think about the bfgd tv's coming out. No tv's have display port and many of the 2018 tv's perform on par with gaming monitors now. My samsung NU8000 65 inch does 1440p 120hz HDR with sub 10 MS of real world latency and 4k 60 hz hdr too! But It only has HDMI. And I got it for 1200 bucks, I can't believe they sell monitors for that price that are tiny with worse brightness, color, and blacks.
My Samsung 55"Q8FN does a bunch of resolutions including 1440 120 for and 4k 60fps when in game mode and free sync ultimate. Much much cheaper than the $5k U.S. for the one BFD monitor available in February. Unfortunately no display port or DVI. This really seems like a marketing thing really then caring about gamers and supporting PC gaming. I always try to give NVIDIA the benefit of the doubt though. They could support HDMI if enough noise was made possibly. Would open up a whole nother class of devices to being gsync certified.
I have a graphic card with display port and a monitor with dvi,hdmi and vga port , so will a display port to dvi port adapter work to get that g sync option in Nvidia control panel?
@@aspirants-wingstoyourdream8067 the two dp to HDMI adapters I tried the GPU still identified the connection as HDMI and the menu does not appear. If anyone knows of one that works and enables the menu please post.
@@integer0verload948 yes please , nothing is working (((
FREESYNC JUST WORKS!
Thanks Tim, great video.
I am pleased to say that it works flawlessly on the most popular Korean UW monitor Microbaord M340CLZ on GTX 1080Ti
Oh cool, was wondering about the refresh range of the AOC C27G1. Thanks for quite an informative video
My Acer XF270HUA works great with adaptive sync enabled and my GTX 1070 Ti
With overdrive enabled ?
exact same config, exact same result, nice monitors we own I must say.
@@steamstories1279 Yes on normal, but it can't be changed as long as adaptive sync is on.
Maybe it uses some kind of variable overdrive like gsync monitors do?!
Same here. Works perfectly fine.
Did you try it via HDMI?
I'm getting conflicting messages whether or not adaptive sync work with Maxwell, some say it works with beta drivers. Anyone with both an Adaptive sync / freesync monitor and a maxwell GPU, able to actually test and confirm/deny?
I wanna know that too. Planning on upgrading my monitor.
@@mateuscampello My exact standing too. And on of my mates'. Both have well overclocked, 2nd hand sourced 980ti's (well actually he has two in SLI). Neither of us have any closing-in need to upgrade our GPUs, performance wise vs the games we play or the ones on the horizon that look interesting to us. We're both looking to get newer, good value, budget friendly 144hz 1440p monitors, and the value bit is just not happening with (now hardware) G-sync models. I saw people on reddit 5-6 days ago, claim they were actually running it on maxwell cards with beta version of the drivers. I have no way of testing it myself, and never got any reply on reddit.
Adaptive Sync should work ONLY with Pascal GPUs (10xx line) and Turing 20xx line. Older GPUs arent supported by nvidia.
@@danielstormy3660 We know it _should_ only work on Pascal and Touring, per the announcement. That is no confirmation either way though, if it actually works or not. Including with the beta drivers that came out earlier.
@@pr0xZen he literally said it in the video. The
Thanks for this info!
thanks man for the great video and testing amzing to know all this...lets hope freesync 2 will be completly compatible hdr and freesync
Whilst the worst quality Freesync displays will have issues this is NOT an AMD issue this is a sh*t product issue with the brand that made the display.
However Nvidia as so so salty that G-Sync did not win the format war as they were hoping to take over the supply for all display processors when G-Sync was a must have feature and get a new revenue stream. REKT!
I agree to this. Ive had cheap freesync monitors & ive found the quality of freesync can vary wildly between manufacturers even in the same price range - this is clearly a sign that its a hardware issue & not software.
@@rawdez_ nowadays they all work fine, but this is because monitors in general have improved.
Back when high refresh rate gaming became a thing the monitors were very expensive & it was always a risk buying them coz u never knew what defects there would be with gaming monitors.
Now everybody makes a decent monitor
Even the $200 Sceptre 4K monitor is amazing picture quality for the money
Yes, Freesync (VESA Adaptive Sync) is an open standard. Pretty much any manufacture can implement it royalty free.... this also means there is no control over the product quality put out by manufacturers in their implementation... where as Gsync is a closed propriety format and engineering.... monitor manufactured can only put out products certified by nVidia and those companies need to buy and license from nVidia to implement it.
It's not reallt a problem CAUSED by freesync... it's a problem that exists simply because there are no stringent controls over manufactureres.
That being said this is a song that has been performed in computing history time and time again. While a closed form of licensed engineering allows for higher quality products.... the excessive cost broght about by licensing and stringent controls when it is forces to compete with an open standard causes the proprietary technology to die... and that is what is happening with Gsync now. The genie was let out of the bottle as soon as a competing open standard cam on the field... and nothing nVidia can do can put the genie back in that bottle. Gsync is effectively dead.
Same thing killed Betamax back in the day. JVC was much more open with the VHS format hence why it won. And again with DVD.
Some companies never learn I guess.
No chance im paying an additional $300 to get the same monitor with gsync. (Australia)
I can Confirm it works. I have an AOC G2460PF Freesync 144hz Monitor and a GTX 1070. But the Problem for me is, that my monitor has brightness flickering when Freesync was enabled, so i didnt use it when i had an RX 480. I hoped it would have only been the Card, but it turns out now i can enjoy the flickering even on my Nvidia GPU! YAY !
Is it overclocked to 144Hz?
No it is selled as 144hz and it runs at it out of the box.
Hmm... have you tried to RMA it? I have the same monitor and don't remember it exhibiting any flickering with freesync on (with the possible exception of GTA V from my recollection). I'm running on an R9 390X if that helps at all.
Thank you, but no i didnt. It only flickers in some games, and i tested freesync alot with gta 5 and other more demanding games. I personally dont see any difference with freesync on/off, but i really like the high refresh rate. So i just live with it 😀
Also i mostly play older competitive titles like csgo or starcraft 2, those run pretty much always at above 140 fps anyways in 1080p
your explanation of G-sync for maxwell cards was much appreciated, it explains why i dont get the toggle with my titan Xs
Thanks so much for this!
09:27 you dont see the Screen Tearing on the Philips??????????...... there is no-sync
Yea! I was wondering noone did mention it in the comments... o_O
Sucks for me. My tv supports 4k 60, 1080p at 120, 1440p at 120hz and has freesync, but only hdmi Samsung nu8000. Maybe vega 7 will be my only solution.
If you have not bought a monitor yet for your PC maybe you should think of getting one. I generally prefer TVs for large screen, overall immersion but low latency is also good in it's own way
@@AlecRozsa I have his TV, the real world latency is below the frametime of 120hz. Noone can tell a difference it is so fast. Many gaming monitors test much higher in real world latency than they advertise too. at 1440p it's 9ms and 1080p its 6ms on the NU8000.
I have the same screen and my god is it awesome. super bright, amazing color, no latency, and I can game at 40k 60hz or 1440p 120hz. Playing PC gaming with a wireless gaming KB and mouse in a recliner is awesome, I'll never go back to playing at a desk and dealing with the back and neck pain.
Navi in mid yead
same tv,fuck them.roll on to amd now after many years with nvidia cards
Excellent video tim, you seemed particularly in your element and clearly putting effort towards removing not only any bias but anything anyone could perceive such, and while it’s a little sad to me that’s necesary if it keeps people off your back i am all for it.
I do have a question though, what is the purpose/value proposition of a discord chatroom for Patreon supporters? I’m not a discord user so I don’t get the draw to begin with really, regardless of the content creator. I see discord as a business utility still I guess. :)
Thanks for the video.. I have an AOC Freesync Monitor and I enabled that settings since day one, and it worked fine. IMPORTANT: There’s an indicator you can enable in NVidia Control Panel to make sure it is working while gaming.
G-Sync is essentially dead since there is no VRR over HDMI, no TV Support, and high cost to implement.
How is G-Sync superior? Every independent articles I read, all said the same thing: "while g-sync and freesync differ in their implementation both achieve the same thing, with no noticeable difference"
AMD had been supporting VRR over hdmi for a while, if the monitor supports it. So... AMD FTW? Since they do it on both DP and HDMI. It's just limited to few monitors that had a-sync on both ports, currently
@Dex4Sure Nvidia is literally going to lose money on g-sync monitors. Most newer 4k hdr tvs like the samsungs have Freesync on them now, the new console gen are also going to support it since AMD is working closely with both microsoft and sony. Yes it will stay a nice thing for people with loads of money to spend on, but thats just not a good business model.
@@0xBULLgogi Nvidia has everything to gain by enabling vrr on their graphics cards, think about it. Now there's no reason to buy a Radeon card now if you want freesync. They'll probably sell less gsync monitors, but they'll sell more graphics cards. They didn't sell very many gsync monitors anyway.
@@vladdragos5881 The difference is that Freesync monitors have a higher minimum dynamic refresh rate than G-Sync. Usually 48, compared to 30. And Freesync tears below that minimum point, while G-Sync doesn't.
Thanks Tim, a great breakdown as usual.
I would only argue that it might actually be a bigger deal for AMD, since FreeSync support was an important selling point for their videocards.
GTX 1070 asus dual oc GPU with acer KG271c monitor- everything working fine using a display port till now.
Tested hitman 2, COD WWII, battlefield 5, farcry 5, Assassin's Creed - Odyssey, Need For Speed Payback.
I just need a PC restart to see the menu in nvidia control panel after enabling freesync on monitor.
Thanks for the detailed video.
Keep up the good work.
You guys are amazing! Releasing the video the very next day... keep up the amazing content!
Also, only Windows 10, no support for NVidia-Freesync VRR for other OSes, including earlier versions of Windows.
Also does not support HDMI and DVI is removed from new cards so they only support 1/3 of adaptive sync.
@@integer0verload948 Jen-Hsun Huang said "Freesync doesn't work". He needs to put money where his mouth is.
Other then this comment and then the nVidia reddit - this requirement I have not been able to find anywhere else including articles on how to enable it.
This is prob one of the most useful vids for us PC enthusiasts to learn from, in the past decade. Thank you for your work Tim.
Top stuff. You guys just keep killing it.
Happy to see a vid finally drop in the morning, instead of late evening. Mind it's a good idea anyway, since with the current extreme heatwave hitting the Australian east coast, the vid would probably melt as the day wore on. Hopefully everyone sees it before it turns into liquid pixels.
Thanks dad.
hes a good dad
Tim, did you consider that FreeSync monitors could get more expensive because Nvidia might charge a license fee for each sold FreeSync monitor which Nvidia approves? It wouldn't be the first time that Nvidia does a scam like this, they did so for SLI, they made every motherboard-company (ASUS, MSI, ASRock, Gigabyte, EVGA) pay a license fee for SLI per sold motherboard which the customer who bought the motherboard had to pay.
So it might be bad for AMD-customers that Nvidia now allows FreeSync to be used, depending on whether or not Nvidia charges for a license again.
We should also consider this: it might increase the marketschare for Nvidia even more and decrease the market share for AMD even more. This is problematic if we end up with only one company left which makes GPU's. We already pay the price for AMD not having the finances to compete, that is why Nvidia has a monopoly on the high end and that is why Nvidia charges so much for mid-tier cards like the RX 2060 - RX 2080.
In short, just calling it a win for gamers seems premature to me. Time will tell.
FreeSync is AMD's property and implementation of Adaptive Sync (A VESA Standard). They will not be able to charge a licensing fee for AMD's technology lmao
only manufactures who wants to put the gsync seal in their monitors... otherwise they can't charge anyone.
@@madr1x you missed the part were they are strait up calling it gsync compatible and completely glossing over the fact that its freesync running in the back. Not trying to be a ass either incase it sounded like it.
If they want the branding, but it's not required for it to work, whereas with sli it is
@@lashyndragon
That doesn't stop Nvidia for charging a fee for simply branding the FreeSync monitor as G-Sync Compatible!
Took a look at my monitors and it turned out that both of mine had freesync that I had totally forgotten about! Nice to have both of them up and running with G Sync :D
Just bought the Acer XG270H for this reason! Thanks for the video!
Does DP to HDMI adaptor work?
No because the Nvidia driver is reading the adaptive sync compatibility from the monitor itself it's also checking the destination port type. This is a limit of the nvidia driver which could change in the future.
No, don't work.
I skip this technology because my monitor have only HDMI/DVI/VGA.
I stay in normal V-sync capped 60/75fps.
No
@@FakeMichau
Yes without DP.
Not likely, but I don't have to tools to test it for certain, I do know that it works in a different way and it will probably not translate the signal correctly.
Jesus, you may be worried that you are losing business via not having the 2060 to test, but, you keep defiant and people keep watching your vids, 6 mins since post loads of views.
We aren't worried about losing views, we were more concerned about Nvidia attempting to manipulate media coverage. If they have axed us you can expect them to come for other technical outlets as well, maybe GN will be next...
I'm happy he commented on it. NVIDIA was very shady on such a point; probably because their has been more adaptive sync support, versus their proprietary, absurdly expensive g-sync implementation. Not surprised they tried to imply that you to only use G-Sync certified monitors that have adaptive sync support, and stooped so low in order to do it. Doesn't surprise me at all. They are no different than Intel in my eyes. Willing to do whatever it takes, no mater how shady, to earn money.
@@djAmored to be fair, that's really most businesses in the modern world. They are all shady in one fashion or another, and will do anything for the almighty cashola.
Didn't NVIDIA send a sample and it just hasn't arrive yet?
@@robertp457 something like that but keep in mind thats just what they're claiming happened. Awfully funny everyone got there's a week or two before yet these guys here ( H.U.) a whole week after the fact and haven't received there's yet. Somethings not right with this situation for sure. :( and these are the guys that do some of the most comprehensive gpu benchmarking in the game so you'd think nvidia would want to get them a sample but they sure taking there time about it
got to test freesync on my acer xf 270hua today. tried a normal driver install but that wrecked my system. other than crashing my system and boot looping until i safe mode ddu it works great now.
just enabled g-sync in nvidia settings and it worked right away.
overdrive is forced on to normal settings for me, and it actually worked pretty good, space engine with all those bright points do not like overdrive but with g-sync on my freesnyd display it works.
and it works on all 3 display modes, but i do get some delay and a brief black screen sometimes when monitor is switching between modes.
in overwatch the input lag is really reduced, better than non synced i normally runned. did not expect that.
EVGA 1070 with Viewsonic XG2401 working perfect. Cranked DSR to 4x and SMAA ingame. Ran rise of the tomb raider benchmark with highest settings to be quick and dirty about it. Even when I dipped down into the mid 30fps everything was smooth. Seems LFC is also working with this combo.
G-Sync: I am better but more expensive
Freesync:I am better but much cheaper
HDMI 2.1 VRR: Did someone forgot about me?
So it doesn't work with hdmi
Wire?
@@deepankar94 Nope doesn't work with HDMI. You need a display port
@@dude3278 crap i use a hdmi cable
@@deepankar94 I mean you can buy one on eBay for $7 if your monitor supports it.
I had one with my gpu, but i lost it. Now i have to order one for 16 bucks.
None of these support HDMI. I wish someone would bring this up. Those of us who do not have display port or DVI (the port NVIDIA removed from the new cards) get screwed. We can't even try adaptive sync. Contacted Nvidia because I own a Samsung 55Q8FN and they referred me to purchase a $5000 monitor that isn't even available until February. So they are only supporting 1/3 of adaptive sync. Please mention this in a video.
Integer0verload pretty much all monitors that have freesync should have a displayport
I guess you did not watch the video. he specifically said Nvidia does not support VRR over HDMI only Display Port.
I'm in the same boat. Also have a Q8FN. Guess I'll need to get a Radeon.
@@willem1442 Both LG and Samsung make freesync monitors with no displayport. Plus some TVs are starting to come with it but they don't have DP either.
I don't know about other TVs but if they all don't have any DP ports like yours, it's still an open market for AMD. People were saying that the real reason Nvidia start supporting adaptive sync was those TVs with Freesync. Guess that was wrong.
I have a Viotek GN32DB Freesync monitor and I have played a few games including BF V and can confirm it GSync working with my monitor with no tearing around the 80-120fps range, I haven't messed with it too much, but it is working.
I've got a free sync / gsync compatible monitor and everything works fine so far! Tested FIFA DX12 and PUBG which both showed flickering before
my asus mx34vq flickers and is unplayable, despite 40-100hz freesync range. Drivers aren't really ready. I'd have to test on amd, but i doubt it would not work.
I had to rma my mx34vq for flickering issue with Vega 56. The new one is certainly better but some flickering is noticeable in menu / static images. So it could be your monitor.
@@HoozahYK good to know. Thankfully i don't notice the need for freesync with my eyes.
I'm hearing nothing but issues with asus monitors, meanwhile acer monitors seem to be a safe bet. It isn't the driver's fault, it's the monitor.
I am using the same monitor but didn't notice any flickering with adaptive sync for the past 2 days. The adaptive sync range is 48-100 and LFC kicks in below 48 Hz normally.
@@gaspariszampelis9585 any specific setting on the monitor itself?
G-Sync "compatable" is far less strict in it's certification than AMD is with FreeSync. Also those "issues" that are described are the result of nVidia's poor optimized software for adaptive sync in general. I'm getting a bit sick of people holding up nVidia as being the best with everything, everywhere and hanging on their every word without looking further into things.
considering everything you've just said is factually wrong, i think you should rethink who you're sick about.
Niels Bekkers Nvidia only approves 12 so far. AMD doesn’t QC at all. Learn your facts and stop blindly fanboying
Excellent video! I agree it should work on most freesync monitors, and those it doesn't are probably just crappy from factory to start with.
Acer XFA240 worked great, driver installed and G-Sync enabled on reboot. Didn't have to do anything. Like others have said, the Nvidia validated panels enable Freesync by default and I didn't see an option to toggle this in the OSD. Not bad for $200
meanwhile i have rtx3060ti and freesync monitor that is not gsync compatible. and i have no problems and no tearing.
feels like all of this is just marketing gibberish
So, it's good to go? Because I am about to buy a FreeSync monitor for my RTX 3070
The vid is 4 years old nump lol!
YEAH Nvidia...FreeSync just works.
Gotta love the compression on the drum
Thanks for this great video, Tim!
I have a FreeSync 2 compatible Samsung C27HG70 that works flawlessly with my RTX 2080. Had to switch from FreeSync "Standard Engine" to "Ultimate Engine" as the standard would not work (as far as I know the difference is that "Ultimate" supports LFC".
The value of the monitor just doubled for me :D
Do you get any flickering on the new Modern Warfare?
RTX 2060 review 😭😭
Patience, my friend...patience. :)
@@turbofanlover 😭😭
Its a 1070 with ray traceing for 1070 money....you are welcome (dont buy it)
@@TheCooperman666 lol exactly
@@TheCooperman666 its a 1070 ti not 1070
Samsung C27F591 works. Stop feeding us B.S Jensen. we want to hear you say it... FreeSync---IT.....JUST.....WORKS rofl
Yep I've got the same monitor. It even works with Dynamic Super Resolution turned on. Shadow of the Tomb Raider has never looked more awesome. Only wish it supported freesync over HDMI so I could hook it up to my QLED TV.
Would be great to have a video with possible buys for monitors at 1440p and 144Hz.
Out of the 2 suggested in previous videos, Samsung and ?Pixio, only the former is sold in the UK and would be great to have alternatives.
You guys always go above and beyond, best tech channel for sure
no freesync over HDMI? lul
LORD OF FREEDOM Just use DP like a smart person.
@@GregoryCunningham new Samsung 120 hz 1440p tv only has HDMI...would love to replace my Vega 56
@@utoracat18 I'm sorry to hear you have a vega card. Hope Nvidia updates their drivers to suport freesync over hdmi.
@@josejuanandrade4439 haha don't be sorry it's not a bad card (strix 3 fan card so no heat problems id just like a 1080ti)
@@utoracat18 :D was just kidding. Btw, i have a strix card too, a 1080ti oc, and i'm rocking freesync right now on my LG ultrawide yay! ;D
Its not really a lie, freesync is open, so thats open to crappy monitors, which means freesync doesnt always work right. Thats the reality.
That's why you watch reviews before buying a monitor rather than paying extra for certification.
Anthony Rizzo Congrats, you’re the kind of person that deceptive marketing works on.
Nope i watch reviews, i just dont think they should be able to make crappy moniters the feature doesnt work on.
@@GregoryCunningham You're pretty much screwed anyways when not making these products yourself. These things are sold by companies which only goal is to make money.
So you either get screwed by potentially faulty adaptive-sync implementation (no matter reputation since certification is a lot more loose), being charged extra for certification (which makes it more likely you get a fully functional product) and be locked into buying a certain brand gpu, or you get no adaptive sync and run into tearing like there's no tomorrow.
You can't win without paying something or playing roulette and there's no way to dodge that bullet. Freesync 2 is probably a better product if it works but with the vast majority of monitors out there you may still end up with a bad one (even if reviews are good) and potentially (read; depending on where you live) get no support whatsoever (USA is notorious for shit like that).
@@markjacobs1086 exactly 0 quality control on manufacturers using freesync. Theres no problem with freesync itself but there may as well be, if theres just going to 100s of monitors stating freesync, yet it doesnt work.
Thanks for the tests. Looking forward to more tests from you and others on 1440p monitors in the future. Really hope they support adaptive sync over HDMI soon too.
Great info!!
what also has to be considered, is that there are Methods to up the qualitiy on freesync and thus the new G sync experience. The first is CRU, which allows you to Change the freesync operateing range. There are a few Monitors that somehow Show defects with the new Gsync but work better with a modified Range. F.e. the first AUO Panels with 1440p 144Hz IPS like the Asus PG 279Q. On factory Settings ist 35 - 90Hz and has various defects on the new G sync like flickering. But if you upp the range to 60 to 144 it works just fine. The 2. Option is even better, but you have to be lucky to find Drivers for it. There are custom Drivers out there, that Change your freesync range. Basicly does the same as CRU but is a bit les fiddly after you set it up. Just Google if there are custom Drivers for your monitor. Might work wonders
Thanks for saving me from buying a pretty HDMI cable with my new freesync monitor. I'll be buying a DP cable as you have pointed out--thanks!
Hey Tim my BenQ Zowie XL2730 also had gsync automatically enabled yesterday when I updated my drivers, even though it wasn't specifically listed of the 12 monitors. I'm sure there are others out there too
Thanks, I was hoping that you guys were going to do a proper video on this.
samsung c32hg70 32" 1440p/144hz monitor, card used is a 1080Ti
"G"-sync works flawlessly in the monitors refresh window (70-144hz)
some light flickering below it, but people mentioned this also
happens with AMD GPUs
Thatks for digging into details in your videos, like describing LFC behavior there
Hey Tim, great video as always !
Just tested it myself on my freesync 2 monitor. So if I got it right, it shouldn't work properly ? Even if I turn HDR off ?
I was abled to turn freesync 2 on, but didn't have the time to run some tests to see any difference, and I'm not sure I will able to see it anyway.
Thanks for the video and your great work once again !
I would really like to see if a freesync monitor or TV that only has HDMI would work on Nvidia graphics card through a DisplayPort adapter