Catholic vs. Protestant: Praying to Mary | Guest: Trent Horn | Ep 997
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- Today, we sit down with Trent Horn from Catholic Answers to discuss the House's recent bill aimed at preventing anti-Semitism and some of the biggest differences between Catholic and Protestant theology. Is it anti-Semitic to say that the Jews killed Jesus? Why do Catholics pray to Mary and the saints? Why don't Catholics believe in sola scriptura? And how do Catholics and Protestants differ in their beliefs about salvation?
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
01:03 Trent’s story
05:50 Catholicism & Protestantism differences
13:58 Anti-Semitism Awareness Act
31:44 Praying to Mary
56:35 Sola Scriptura and the Gospel
01:13:59 Salvation
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Allie, I'm grateful for you having these discussions. I was Anti-Catholic a year ago and thought you owned George Farmer. But that debate got me interested in researching Catholicism. Fast forward, and just 5 weeks ago I was confirmed Catholic at the Easter Vigil.
Why ? They proof text 16 18 to give themselves false authority and then invented leavened doctrines over time after Rome appropriated Christianity.
Glory to God! I am on a similar journey to the Church of our Eucharistic Lord
Trent seems to be following Farmers playbook in this discussion. He's chosen to pose questions and not quote bible verses to convince anyone. In hope the the questions lead to curiosity and the holy spirit taking over in conversion.
@@botanicamelancholia RCC re-sacrifices Christ every mass and in the end Jesus is still not enough because of the invented safety net of purgatory. Jesus sacrifice on the cross wasn't enough for RCC. God said do not drink physical blood, but they believe in the doctrine of transubstantiation that when you consume the bread and wine it LITTEARLY transmutates into blood and flesh. Then they all pray to Mary when Jesus told us WHO to pray to and its not his mom. They glorify her beyond what the Bible says and make graven images of her and invented entire doctrines around her......don't get fooled by their one true church narrative and proof texting matthew 16 18 to give themselves false authority.
@jsharp9735 You should read Ignatius, Justin Martyr and Iraneous. You'll find that the "invented doctrines" from when "Rome appropriated Christianity" are actually incredibly early and predate any consolidation of the scriptures.
Ignatius, for example, literally says:
*Especially [will I do this] if the Lord make known to me that ye come togetherman by man in common through grace, individually, in one faith, and in Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David according to the flesh, being both the Son of man and the Son of God, so that ye obey the bishop and the presbytery with an undivided mind, breaking one and the same bread, which is the medicine of immortality, and the antidote to prevent us from dying, but [which causes] that we should live for ever in Jesus Christ.*
Or
*It is becoming, therefore, that ye also should be obedient to your bishop, and contradict him in nothing; for it is a fearful thing to contradict any such person. For no one does [by such conduct] deceive him that is visible, but does [in reality] seek to mock Him that is invisible, who, however, cannot be mocked by any one.*
Seriously, Ignatius tells the Christians to be unified with and obedient to the Bishop over and over and over again. The authority of the episcopacy is indisputable in the early (and oppressed) church
Born as a Muslim, found Christ. Became Protestant Christian, till I noticed various disagreements within the Protestant Church. I knew something was wrong. But I knew one thing, that Christ must have left us a true Church, because the Bible often warns against false teachings. I just knew deep down that God will not leave us like lost sheep. After 2.5 years, I am convinced that the Catholic Church is the Church that Jesus left us. Last December I joined the Catholic Church and will remain in it until my last breath. Thank you God for everything.
Glad to know you have found Home! Praise be to God!
@@elle9082 ❤️
God bless you
Thank you for sharing brother. I really appreciate your testimony. It encouraged my heart. Keep the faith, grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I know Mother Mary and the Saints are praying for your edification, sanctification, and future glorification! Rejoice in our earthly and heavenly community.
@@DavidCraig-hd1rj thank you.. God bless you and your Family❤️✝️
I started seriously looking in to Catholicism a week ago.
This weekend I prayed through the full rosary, took about an hour and a half as I’m still memorizing it.
For the first time in my life I have felt a genuine burning for knowledge of the lord in the last few days. Looking forward to continuing this journey.
Amen!
Yay! Welcome to your journey!
I remember the first time I ever prayed the Rosary when I was 20 yrs old - I recall apologizing to God at the beginning hoping I wasn't offending Him by asking His Mom for prayers and I recall that the meditation on the Mysteries of the Rosary took me to a whole other level of understanding of the reality of the events recorded in the Bible. It was amazing!
Good! keep saying the rosary ! The rosary have no Salvation, it is religious spirits, when I experienced the holy spirit my eyes were open and I said, Lord all these years Mary! The rosary! why not you? Did I expect an answer? But I heard very clearly, he said , I see you practising patience and diligence, I burst out laughing , yes you are right lord! we are practicing patience , waiting patiently for answered that never came and diligently doing it over and over again. Memorising a rosary cannot get any one into heaven, it’s not to what you do it is what Jesus did on the cross, that is grace, Mary has no part in anyone’s Salvation, that is doctrine that comes from the teaching of the Catholic Church .
I come from A catholic background, I still attend mass ,at the Catholic Church, but I attend especially to ask others , they like if I pray for them, I find them always receptive In receiving prayers . I would say, if you kneel down, close your eyes and pray with all heart your mind your soul and your strength believing you receive it , God will answer your prayers. He doesn’t answer prayers that is of repetition , if you want to know how to pray, read the palms, David poured out his heart to the God of Israel , how he felt and what was going on in his life. God already know all, but he wants us to come to him.
I saw and I know the difference. I read the old Testament and I would spend hours in the morning talking to the Lord, what is the church teaching Lord ? what did the Catholic priest read to know you ? , I was angry! I knew about Jesus but I did not know him personally, I later realise he wants us to know him personally or I would end up in hell. He began to stir my heart and I did not know where I can go it worst yet who can I talk to , I did not know the Bible I did nkt know the Word of God , I thought maybe I should go to the Catholic Church and talk to some one , but I heard a very Stern voice , No Not There ! I thought? , so where then ? Foolishly I went all the way to the Vatican . Lots of people queueing … I realised no it’s not here. I stayed with a friend unknowingly she was Buddhist ! Goodness ! I returned to London not knowing where to go , later I realised we look for God In the garbage bins . Yoga, we join new age Buddhist. But none satisfy , only Jesus satisfy . Our longing.
The Holy Spirit led me to Holy Trinity Brompton in London, and on Pentecost Sunday2002 he catapult into heat seeking missile. That is over 20 years ago and he has held my gaze ,I don’t concentrate on any thing for long, but with the Holy Spirit 24/7 he is my thought Word and deed , and I encourage others, so please read the Bible. The rosary would lead you to hell read the Bible! The rosary is NOT biblical and see for yourself. GOD would not accept anyone or share his glory with anyone, ir any idol , if you call Mary his mother, the relationship between Mary and Jesus changed , it was not about Mary but we can learn from Mary her obedience is beyond . . Why Did Jesus say in LUKE , 11:27-28 true blessedness
27 As he was speaking, a woman in the crowd called out, “God bless your mother-the womb from which you came, and the breasts that nursed you!”
28 Jesus replied, “But even more blessed are all who hear the word of God and put it into practice.”
This is Salvation ! not the rosary. It is a religious spirit! when I was throwing my rosary away it tugged at my heartstring, I reached to pick it up and I heard leave it very stern ! Jesus said my sheep hear my voice and they listen . There is a battle for souls and Satan and his demons are going all out. The one true church are the believers in Christ, spiritual Israel , we are grafted in into the one Church. And it not religion but relationship. . The church is build by God’s own hand. When my faith is threaten , I know Jesus prays for me, just as he told Peter , Satan asked to sift you like sand but I have prayed for you. Can that which is small contain that which is Big ? God longs to give us his Holy Spirit to empower us, he knows without his Holy Spirit we are toast in Satan hands , he wants to be strong. Mary can’t give us the Holy Spirit , the Holy Spirit give us translation when we read the Bible then he gives us revelation then we got transformation. Into a new creation. In Christ call Born Again , he removes our sin as far as the east is from the west and remember them no more . This scripture cancels our purgatory , WARNING ! purgatory is adding to God’s Word that has serious consequences. The Catholic Church want to take away Eph , 2:8-9 for it by grace through faith we are saved, it is a gift from God , not works, ( indulgences ) not of our selves (we can’t earn salvation ) SO NO ONE CAN BOAST ! Written in stone !
1tim 2:5 for there is only ONE GOD and ONE MEDIATOR between God and mankind the Man Christ Jesus , who gave himself as a ransom for all .
And we don’t need a Pope , the priesthood was done away with when Jesus died on the cross , the Jewish priesthood came to an end AD70 when Jerusalem was destroyed . Jesus became our high priest . Hebrew 4:14:16
Jesus The Great High Priest!
14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven,[a] Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet he did not sin. #16 Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.#
We don’t need to ask the dead to pray for the living , God gave us his Holy Spirit never to be alone. . All who are joining the Catholic Church are looking for religion , I did not have to leave the catholic church but I have freedom in Christ to go to any church and listen to the word of God , I hardly attend the Catholic Church , because I now know Jesus personally, I have a personal relationship with my Heavenly Father through the Holy Spirit in Jesus name. I know it’s the believers in Christ who are the church not religion. That is his Church he is building a people of power a people who are called by his name … Christian. Not all Christians are Christians . I’m speaking of spiritual Christians. God is Spirit and he is looking for people who will worship him in spirit and in truth. Not through religion !
One question if the Catholic Church is the true church why was people stragjez and killed for teaching the Bible to children . Today Catholics still don’t read and study God’s Word believe snd obey , they listen to doctrine believe and live but it . That has no salvation ….that is scary! Salvation is real experience . Hell is real there is no turning back your name is written in the book of life there is One heaven and it our father who art I heaven not hail Mary. Mary in the Bible is not the. One the catholic church teaches . Don’t take my word for it . Read the BIBLE FROM Genesis to revelation .its the Holy Spirit who will translation,if Gods Word then he give you revelation and you believe, he transforms you, into a new creation in Christ , called Born Again, now you know truth , and the truth sets you free , the Holy Spirit brings freedom and relationship with God in the name of Jesus , this make Christianity different from religion. Only Hod gives the jolt spirit no priest can declare you are born again without the evidence of the manifestation of the Holy Spirit . Whew!
@@CatholicCarnivoreHousewife you all
Made the devil grin ! Sad you pray a rosary hie can you have a relationship with Jesus if you don’t know him personally ? Mary is not the way to the father .Only Jesus !
1tim 2:5
There is only one God and one mediator between God and mankind the Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all.
@@amoyjoyce1117 the Rosary is a deep meditation of the 4 Gospels centered in the Life & Actions of Jesus Christ using words which come directly from the Gospel.
No one can have a relationship with someone they don't know and it's impossible for someone praying the Rosary NOT to get to know Jesus on a much deeper level.
Reading the Gospels is one thing - like jet skiing on the Ocean & Mediating on the Gospels using the Rosary is quit another - like scuba diving in the Ocean. If someone wants to truly KNOW Jesus, they ought to do both daily!!!
I think Satan Loves it when he's succeeded in convincing people, like the way I was raised to believe, that the Rosary is evil.
I double dog dare you to pray the Rosary for a week.
Thank you, Allie. Because of you, more people are coming back to the Mother Catholic Church. I will pray for your conversion. God bless you sister.
I pray that you will only pray to God. Just because we "can" pray to Mary and the Saints does not mean we should. I get it, "Catholics claim they don't pray to Mary, but pray through Mary." However, no Catholic has been able to explain "Why not just pray to God?" Its a pretty simple, but a lot of Catholics are uncomfortable or even angry when I ask that. But seriously, "What is stopping a Catholic like yourself to just pray to God? He is all knowing, all present, and all hearing. The Saints and Mary don't have that power. I have yet to see a convincing argument regarding prayers to Mary and even if she is close to GOD, God is more than able. He's above Mary on multiple fronts.
@@pluto4847 I'll pray for you too my dear brother. See you in heaven 🙏
@@pluto4847cradle catholic here. We do pray directly to God. Know where in catholic doctrine does it prohibit it. It’s not necessary to ask for Mary’s intercession for our salvation . But if we can connection up there why not ?
@@victoriasoto7335 Is it your "Why not?" or God's "Why Not?" We tend to want to put God in our image, butt actually we are in His image. I admit I used to do that.
@@pluto4847 I never understand this line of thought from Protestants. So if what you said is the case, why not everyone just pray to God themselves directly? You see, I have never met a single Protestant who has never prayed for their family and friends or reject having family and friends pray for them. Well, maybe you are the one Protestant that is the exception?
I’m a Catholic revert. I turned my back on Catholicism years ago and went to a Pentecostal church for about 10 years. I eventually got tired of the rock concerts and pastors screaming into the microphone approach. I found that as I got older I needed a quieter more reverent way to worship and that’s what the Catholic Church offers, worship, adoration and reverence for Jesus. I believe God led me back to the one true Church. As I delved deeper into Catholicism, I discovered many misconceptions and my faith grew stronger. I’m proud to be a Catholic. Thank you Jesus. ✝️🙏🏻
Me too 😊
I'm a Catholic revert to. History (Apostolic Succession) brought me to the Catholic Church since she is the only Church that can be traced back to Jesus Christ.
Me too! 😊
So you believe that the pope is Christ onearth!
@@michellemailloux2483 that is a lie the word of God makes clear the sucsseion of Christ. Why are you lying
I am a former protestant pastor who is now converting to Catholicism. I reached a point in my studies where I could no longer deny that the Catholic Church is the church that Christ founded through Peter and has continued for 2000 years. The more church history you study, the more your eyes will be opened.
God bless you in your confirmation! Reminds me of Scott Hahn's point that lack of obedience began to feel like disobedience as he learned more and incorporated the Catholic traditions into his church
Which denomination were you?
Amen!! Happens over and over again! Seek and you shall find!
Isn't Jesus the Rock, and has always been the Rock?
@@Henrycostoyyes He is Jesus is the Rock, the Foundation of our faith He’s the High Priest the Head of the body not Peter.
@@Henrycostoy Yeh Jesus renamed Simon to be called Rock. So I guess what Jesus says goes, right?
I used to be an atheist, then moved to be a Protestant and finally came to become a Catholic. Reading and research brought me to the Catholic faith.
That and a worldly love of big churches and needing a group and praise from men?
Jesus told you to call no man upon this earth your father, for you have one father which is in heaven.
THey call the pope Kodesh Abba hahhaha
@@DavidJosephBothyou know Jesus spoke metaphorically right? Because Paul literally calls himself the spiritual father of the Corinthians
@@haronsmith8974 there is nothing metaphoric about it.
And you know that.
Paul is not telling them metaphorically he begat them in the gospel. He did.
He also said whether Paul or Appolos or Cephas etc... they are nothing, but Christ is everything. And he never told anyone to call him father.
We have ONE father. Stop trying to overturn the words of Christ. If you don't believe him you should find another religions. Catholics shouldn't try to warp other peoples religion, they should have fully invented their own.
@@DavidJosephBoth
1) Catholicism precedes every other Church.
2) The Church is the Body of Christ, each member is an individual Christ and part of him as well. The word Christian literally means little anointed one.
3) Yes Jesus was speaking metaphorically, he said call no man teacher, and I bet unless you’re a hypocrite that you call someone a teacher. I bet you’ve called your own father, father.
4) This would make Paul a false teacher when he refers himself as the spiritual father of the Corinthians.
You have bad theology and you shouldn’t be on the internet throwing stone when you live in a glass house.
@@haronsmith8974 1.) You had no Pope until 1050ad. You had no council of Nicea for centuries, you had no bible till trent which was many more centuries.
2.) The Church is the body of believer in Christ, while that's true you're not part of it. Christian doesn't mean "little anointed one" it means "followers of the anointed one! ;) it's a transliteration of the Hebrew "messianic".
3.) I call him dad. But it's hilarious how you Catholic heathens move heaven and earth to try and claim Jesus Christ's words are literal, or to be taken serious and you don't even blink.
4.) no it wouldn't make Paul a false teachers, he said "as a father i have begotten you in the gospel" which is the Gospel of Grace where you have "One Father" which is in heaven. Because you are supposed to be spiritually born according to PAUL. ;)
You don't have to cry, you can still worship Mary and call the Pope your "Kodesh Abba" at least for a while. Until you die, then it's up out of the grave and you can give this nonsense argument to Christ himself, when he condemns the hundreds of millions of you doing so
"when the son of man returns will he find faith on the earth?" - this wouldn't make sense if the catholic church of mary was actually believing the words of Jesus Christ... which they don't.
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this is the kind of conversations catholics and protestants need to have. full of charity and patience. All Glory to God!
Then Mary said: “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior!". Luke 1: 46-47
There is so much depth in those words!
What do these words mean?
... "for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name." Luke 1:48-49.
Mary's role is to always magnify God and from experience she does. The closer we are to the mother of God the closer we are to Jesus.
She needed a Saviour like all humans do.
After hearing this debate, I thank God I'm Catholic. Long Live Christ the King!
Why? Are you better than other christians? Do you accept all religions, like the pope and the catholic church does? The eucomenical movement.
Viva Cristo Rey 😊❤✝️
I think it is the talking point aimed to destract Protestants from their faith. It's almost always from comments from Catholics to boast about their Catholicism. This more like religious politics that has nothing to do with God.
Ask Jesus to reveal His truth and He will and it will be shown that no man-made doctrine or religion is of God and surely God will also reveal that there is nothing to thank Him for in regard to being catholic. This is not a judgement for we all fall short of the glory of God, simply stating ask God to reveal Himself and He will reveal to the heart for the heart to know He is Jesus The Christ whom is The Saviour and all else of mankind is man-made and the culprit is the devil for he is the king of lies and the lies of the devil have infiltrated all religions to some extent. Call upon Jesus for His truth and His truth shall be given and being for His glory and His righteousness shall be set on all whom believe Him for His truth.
@@John_Lete I guess you have to keep asking then. God will lead you to the source of all grace: the sacraments. Protestants have two, but you need Christ's one true Church for the other five.
This morning of Pentecost Sunday I give all praise to the Holy Spirit for Trent Horn. Thank you God for molding him and helping him speak the truth with patience and gentleness.
Just like I ask my husband to pray for me and God hears him, I ask Mother Mary to pray for all of us today. If God hears prayers of people on earth how would He not hear the prayers of those who have been perfected by His love and are now in heaven. Veni Sancte Spiritus!
Thank you for this interview. I was raised Catholic but I needed to figure things out on my own because I wondered if our faith was really the truth. Fast forward 5 years later I ended up back to the Catholic Church. I decided to go through RCIA to better understand my own faith and I fully confirmed to the Catholic Church in 2022. I thank God every single day for allowing me to find and understand the full truth. I am now a devout Catholic to God be all the glory 🙏🏼 I pray for all my brothers and sisters who are in limbo, those who are curious and wondering, and those who doubt and are skeptical. May God lead your path and may you find the full truth. God bless you all.
Awesome news! May God bless you too!
I was raised basically non-religious, then became an atheist just after high school, then anti-theist mid-way through university, then a skeptic near the end, then a theist by the time I left, then about 10 years after that (and a lot of asking questions and discerning), I was baptized and confirmed in to the Catholic Church in 2021.
18 years of being a Catholic. Baptized, received most of the sacraments. Went to Catholic schools . We rarely opened a Bible. I had no idea of scripture. Was always going to confession for fear the Priest wouldn't absolve my sins. Knew I was going to hell for committing mortal sins.Not going to Mass every Sunday. BORN AGAIN through the love of our lord Jesus Christ.
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???
Book, chapter and verse!!!!
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Where in the bible is said Mary can hear our prayers? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary went to/will go to heaven? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary is a mediator/imtercessor? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary remained a virgin? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary was sinless? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary is to be worshiped.prayed to? Book, chapter and verse
I KNOW absolutely NO Catholic will reply!!! If one does, every answer will be either out of context, or twisted scripture.
@@mitchellosmer1293 You are asking for book, chapter and verse as if we accept sola scriptura. We don't.
Tell me: Were in the bible is sola scriptura? Book, chapter and verse! It's not there, so why are you accepting it and expecting us to accept it?
I'm fairly certain that no matter what I quote from scripture, you won't accept it anyway. I originally wrote a long comment providing some of this, but then decided that it wouldn't matter to you anyway.
@@billyg898 quote--You are asking for book, chapter and verse as if we accept sola scriptura. We don't... unquote
I know!! NO catholic ever read a bible!! Not matter anyways!! What catholicx carew what it says anyways????
----quote---Tell me: Were in the bible is sola scriptura? Book, chapter and verse! It's not there, so why are you accepting it and expecting us to accept it?.. unquote
That comment PROVES your ignorance of scripture!!!!
The Commandments last forever
The works of His hands are verity and justice;
All His precepts are sure. They stand fast forever and ever,
And are done in truth and uprightness. Psalm 111:7-8 NKJV
>>>****Hebrews 4:12 Indeed, the word of God is living and effective, sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating even between soul and spirit, joints and marrow, and able to discern reflections and thoughts of the heart), or seen implicitly through its lens.
----Catholics say:. Indeed, the word of the Pope (priests) is living and effective.....
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*** Deuteronomy 17:14-20 states that we “shall not turn away from God’s Word, not to the right or the left”.
-------According to Catholics. They turn to whatever direction they can to satisfy their itching ears.
***Psalm 1:2 and Joshua 1:7-8 says that “the righteous person dwells on the Word of the Lord day and night”.
--- According to catholics. They DWELL on every word spoken by a mere man, the Pope (priests).
***Deuteronomy 8:3 states that “we do not live on bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God”.
According to Catholics.“we do not live on bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of the Pope (priests)”.
***Proverbs 30:5-6 states: 5 Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. 6 Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.
----According to Catholics. 5 Every word of the Pope proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. 6 Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a heritic.
-----I will ask you, which NO ONE has replied to: Who's other writings does GOD tell us to accept as the truth??? QUOTE FROM the BIBLE!!!!)
Remember these words from Jesus: John 14:6 NIV -
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Since HE IS THE TRUTH, then when a church preaches their version of the truth, who is the truth??? Jesus or the "Church"???
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Sola Scriptura, or “God’s Word alone,” maintains that the Bible is the highest source of authority in a Christian’s life, the final court of appeal (though not the only authority: the Bible itself mentions governmental and other authorities).
Sola fide, or “faith alone,” affirms that justification-being made right with God-comes only through faith in Jesus.
Sola gratia, or “grace alone,” says sinners are saved as an unearned gift of God’s grace, “not as a result of works, so that no one may boast” (Eph 2:8-9).
Sola Christo (“solus Christus”), or “Christ alone,” emphasizes the exclusivity of Jesus’ role in salvation: “No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).
And soli Deo gloria, or “to the glory of God alone,” says that the purpose of creation, salvation, and everything-including our goal as Christians-is the glory of God, “that God may be all in all” (1 Cor 15:28).
I can certainly understand why the roman Catholic does not agree with scripture . It would have to get rid of some , not all , some doctrines that are totally false.
Let me add this; let's say a man presents to you an old parchment dated at 30AD. On that parchment states Mary IS NOT the mother of Jesus. Accept as true? Why or why not???
Same parchment states Jesus is NOT the Messiah. You accept as true???? Why or why not?
Same parchmant says Jesus is NOT the son of God. You accept as truth??Why or why NOT???
My point' Just because it is written, DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!! What wil you use to prove those statements are false?? The word of men??? Why not the WORD of God???
>>>>--quote--I'm fairly certain that no matter what I quote from scripture, you won't accept it anyway. I originally wrote a long comment providing some of this, but then decided that it wouldn't matter to you anyway... unquote
Go ahead..I will likely rebutt everthing you say. Mostly will be worthless opinions with NO bible quotes.
Come on--DO IT!!!! Book, chapter and VERSES!!!
I went to a coffee shop yesterday and heard two men discussing this episode, so I had to come see! I am a new Catholic convert from Protestantism. I couldn't help but smile as I overheard them discussing this topic. They were impressed with Trent and had their perspective changed on Catholic teaching. Great job, Trent. You are a treasure to our community.
Trent didn’t really say a good biblical reason why pray through Mary 🤷♀️📿 am not sure if all Catholics are not listening right 😂
Yeah, I wish they had more time to go into the details of why Mary is venerated and why people ask her, and other saints, to pray for them. He did, however, go briefly into why it doesn't have to be in the Bible for it to be a licit practice. It does not contradict scripture and our view of Mary and her role comes from deductions from scripture. I would recommend reading Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary by Brant Pitre if you're interested in a super in depth study of why Catholics believe in asking Mary for prayers. Regardless of your view of Mary, it is an interesting book to show you the practice doesn't come out of thin air. I'd also recommend watching the videos on Trent's channel where he goes into it. 😊
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@@cindybeltran992 Yes, I wish that they had time to go into the details more. There are many reasons why Catholics venerate Mary. While it is true there is not an explicit command in the Bible to ask Mary (or any Saint, for that matter) to pray for us, there are ways that Catholics deduce the special role of Mary from scripture. Just as Trent briefly pointed out in this video, we are also not explicitly told we ought to pray to the Holy Spirit, but many Protestants and Catholics do (and rightly so because of deduction). The Catholic view of Mary is rooted in Sacred Tradition, Jewish views on the Queen Mother, and interpretation of different passages of scripture (usually you'll hear Catholics discuss John 2:1-11, John 19:25-27, and Revelation 12). As I stated above, these scriptures don't explicitly tell us to pray to Mary, but Catholics use them to deduce certain things about Mary & the Saints. I would encourage you to read Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary by Brant Pitre if you're interested in how the Church has historically viewed Mary and why. If you don't want to do that, Trent's channel is always helpful as is Joe Heschmeyer's (Shameless Popery). It did not come out of nowhere! Everything Catholics believe about Mary reveals something about Jesus and His divine nature. We don't venerate Mary because she's a deity or has any power of her own, but because of what she tells us about Christ, His holiness, His Majesty, and His love! It might also be helpful to know that there have been Catholics who were even excommunicated for taking their veneration of Mary too far (see Collyridianism)...so there is definitely a line for us Catholics. Mary is an infinitesimal creature when compared to the one Holy and Sovereign God of the Universe!
@@cindybeltran992 Catholics don't believe everything must be proved from the Bible.
---Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun.
---Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of you; in Sheol who will give you praise?
---Ecclesiastes 12:7 And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
---Psalm 146:4 When his breath departs, he returns to the earth; on that very day his plans perish.
---Ecclesiastes 9:6 Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun.
---Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”
----James 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.
---Job 14:10-12 But a man dies and is laid low; man breathes his last, and where is he? As waters fail from a lake and a river wastes away and dries up, so a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep.
--****John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.
---Hebrews 9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment. (Judgement on Judgement day)
---Acts 7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep (died).
---Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
-----Job 14:12 So a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep.
----Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
A Catholic from Pakistan. Thank you for having Trent on. Please have scot Hann on.
Being a Catholic in Pakistan is not easy. I send you a lot of warm greetings!
I include our Christian Pakistan brothers and sisters in my daily Rosary. May God protect you from persecution in your country.
Hang in there, brother, you people are the pinnacle of our Church. Thank you for holding on.
Yes! I could not stop thinking of Scott Hahn the entire debate! I also said this on Candace Owen’s CZcams video of Allie’s debate with George Farmer. Scott Hahn can explain with the Bible and historical context the origin of our belief in the intercession of Mary and the rest of the saints and many other doctrines.
Be strong friend, Lord is with you
I am a Catholic, reading these comments are so inspiring. I love all of you all that are starting to come back or truly find your faith. Praise God!
This was a well-done, respectful conversation. I converted from Southern Baptist to Catholicism 14 years ago. Over the past six months, I have really grown closer to Mary and look to her daily as a model and inspiration for being a good mother and disciple of Jesus. I love my spiritual mother!
Thats good and nice but what does mary do for you? For a model or example, certainly but can she recieve your prayers? Can she forgive your sins? Why would she be the broker of your prayers to jesus when you have the holy spirit already filling that position? Are you not putting humans above God?
She didnt experience resurrection, she didnt give birth to God or the Holy Spirit. She may be in heaven, maybe not in heaven, dont know, but i do know Jesus is at the right hand of God. You could just as well pray to your uncle who you think is in heaven. Pray to jesus, thats a certainty.
@@faytleingod9592 Mary is in heaven.
Keep your Catholic faith strong sister✝️🙏🏻
@josuesepulveda6850 She certainly is. So why pray to her? Can the souls in heaven hear our prayers? Does anyone in the bible pray to anyone apart from God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit?
➔ All the following Catholic things (and more) that Protestants attack as "evil" or "demonic" are HOLY THINGS IN THE BIBLE:
➔ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS,
➔ CARVED IMAGES IN THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD,
➔ HONOURING MARY,
➔ THE QUEENSHIP & ASSUMPTION OF MARY,
➔ MARY'S STATE OF PURITY
➔ AND BOWING AS A SIGN OF HONOUR AND RESPECT:
(All copied from the protestant version of the bible by Cynthia X)
➔ Including proof that saints are not dead, They are sharing in eternal life with Christ.
➔ Saints are biblical. The protestant "reformers" are not.
➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE ...INCLUDING BIBLICAL PROOF that SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD:
The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ...
➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS:
● REV 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb.
➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf:
● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has.
➨INTERCESSION of MARY:
● JOHN 2:1 At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party.
➨The KING Honours his mother's request:
● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.”
(Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests)
➨SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: AND THEIR INTERCESSION IS BIBLICAL: They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers)
● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise"
● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints.
● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord.
● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die.
● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died.
● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
(Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus)
● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God)
● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us,
● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transfiguration of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead.
● JUDE 1:14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints
➨HONOURING MARY AND MARIAN DOCTRINES IN THE IBLE:
● LUKE 1:24-48 All generations will call Mary blessed.
➨THE QUEENSHIP AND ASSUMPTION OF MARY IN THE BIBLE:
● REV 12:1 A great sign appeared in the heavens, a woman clothed with thge sun, themoon under her feet and on her head a CROWN (signifying a Queen) of 12 stars. REV 12 tells us the wiman who aooears in the heavens is the woman who gives birth to the male child who will rule the nations. (Mary)
➨ MARY'S STATE OF PURITY
● LUKE 1:24-48 The Angel Gabriel greeted Mary with: "Hail, full of grace (grace is the state of purity that God gives to human beings by which they are saved) the Lord is with thee"
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Sacred Images are Biblical & mocking & destroying them is a serious sin, an act of blasphemy:
➨ SACRED IMAGES IN THE BIBLE:
Sacred images are not idols and it is an act of blasphemy to attack them:
● EXODUS 25:18-22 God commands Moses to make STATUES of Angels.
● NUMBERS 21:8-9 God commands another image to be made, a serpent.
● EZEKIEL 41:18-25 KJV
➔ EZEKIEL's VISION OF THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD ADORNED WITH CARVED IMAGES: ...
18 And it was made with CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES, so that a palm tree was between a CHERUB and EVERY CHERUB HAD TWO FACES;
19 So that the FACE OF A MAN was toward the PALM TREE on the one side, and the FACE OF A LION toward the PALM TREE on the other side: it was made through all the house round about.
20 From the ground unto above the door were CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES made, and on the wall of the temple.
21 The posts of the temple were squared, and the face of the sanctuary; the appearance of the one as the appearance of the other.
22 The altar of wood was three cubits high, and the length thereof two cubits; and the corners thereof, and the length thereof, and the walls thereof, were of wood: and he said unto me, This is the table that is before the Lord.
23 And the temple and the sanctuary had two doors.
24 And the doors had two LEAVES apiece, two turning leaves; two leaves for the one door, and two leaves for the other door.
25 And there were made on them, on the doors of the temple, CHERUBIMS and PALM TREES, like as were made upon the walls; and there were thick planks upon the face of the porch without.
● 1 KINGS 6:23...
➔ Carved images of Cherubim (Angels) lions and other images in Solomion's temple:
23 For the inner sanctuary he made a pair of CHERUBIM (Angels) out of olive wood, each ten cubits high. 24 One wing of the first cherub was five cubits long, and the other wing five cubits-ten cubits from wing tip to wing tip. 25 The second cherub also measured ten cubits, for the two cherubim were identical in size and shape. 26 The height of each cherub was ten cubits. 27 He placed the cherubim inside the innermost room of the temple, with their wings spread out. The wing of one cherub touched one wall, while the wing of the other touched the other wall, and their wings touched each other in the middle of the room. 28 He overlaid the cherubim with gold.
29 On the walls all around the temple, in both the inner and outer rooms, he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers. 30 He also covered the floors of both the inner and outer rooms of the temple with gold.
➨ BOWING as a sign of honour / respect:
● JOSHUA 7:6: 6 Joshua & the elders of Israel tore their clothing and lay prostrate (face down on the ground) before the Ark of the Lord. (an OBJECT)
●1 KINGS 2:19 Solomon bows to his Mother. (a human being)
● JOSHUA 5:13-15
13 Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, “Are you for us or for our enemies?”
14 “Neither,” he replied, “but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.” Then Joshua fell FACE DOWN TO THE GROUND in reverence, and asked him, “What message does my Lord[a] have for his servant?”
15 The commander of the Lord’s army replied, “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so.
Wow! Seeing the majority of these comments are coming from Catholics (converts, reverts, cradle) has filled me with such hope! Beautiful. Always praying for the reunification of ALL Christians. Trent Horn is a gift for sure.
Amen!!
Amen! I was having the same experience. Whether these Protestants know it or not, they are creating a path to return home to Rome as the anti-Catholic rhetoric darkened is brought to light and shown to be true! Hallelujah!
I was thinking the same thing ❤
Blind leading the blind people really need to open their Bible 😂
Respectfully, there’s only one way to become a Christian. Roman Catholicism is not Christianity. It has a lot of similarities but it teaches another gospel.
As a former Roman Catholic, I’ve been watching carefully for some time now the mass conversion to Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholicism happening.
If Revelation 17 n 18 are what many believe it teaches, then everything happening with many converting to RC n EO is what we have been expecting to happen, but it’s not a good thing according to Rev 17 n 18.
As a Protestant, I will say that Catholics like Trent have really given me a better understanding of the faith & a respect that I did not have before. I grew up going to catholic school & have many catholic family members. However, what ends up happening at family events are those surface level debates that go no where instead of learning to understand & digging into church history. Appreciate it!
Continue on your journey. Trent and Catholic Answers are a great resource if you really want to know about the Church that Christ established. I also recommend Jimmy Akin and Tim Staples. They both are great teachers and converts to the Catholic Church.
@@lo5182How do you know? How did you come to that conclusion? Do you have evidence?
@@adrianobattaglia4060 The way people come to believe that the Catholic Church is the church that Christ founded is the same way that people come to believe in Christianity generally - meaning through many different paths. Some study for years and are convinced, some pray for an answer, some are convinced by the witness of others living out their faith, some go and sit before the Eucharist and experience the presence of God. In the end, it’s all God’s grace leading people, then they take the leap of faith and say yes to God.
@@joeterp5615 Because it is where Jesus said that he hand the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven to Peter the Apostle who died in Rome, as well as Apostle Paul. Its Matthew 16: 17
Knowing Church history is good and commendable but you can learn that from Protestants as well. Have you tried Truth Units channel of Gavin Ortlund?
I converted last year from methodism i studied calvinism for 10 years and ended up making me Catholic! My sins have all but vanished, amount of time in prayer has mulitplied, thirst for the word, etc! Thank you god for showing me the truth. All those years of protestant confusion are gone forever!
You should try Christianity at some point. lol
@DavidJosephBoth It's called catholicism, I know you probably never looked into it seriously. I was an anti catholic for a long time, the church I grew up in was traditional. These days the UMC is lost but in the 80s they actually cared about scripture. John Wesley created a method to reduce and eliminate sin from someone's life. It was known as the Wesley method. Methodist became a slur against his students that they proudly accepted.
That's not to say I didn't study other branches of protestantism. I studied Calvin's doctrines for 10 years, read luther, Spurgeon, rc sproul, cs Lewis and listened to podcasts from Doug Wilson, James white, Michael brown, John MacArthur, Francis Chan, and about a dozen lesser known pastors like John Samson. All that study and perspective and I still found myself confused about some passages. The best pastors couldn't explain it.... for instance, I've never heard a logical reason why calvinists believe the Jewish had no choice in choosing christ. He literally weeps because they would not choose him. Eventually I figured nobody really has it figured out and we should all just do our best with interpretation.
It's a crazy long story but I started investigating the catholic church to prove it wrong. Eventually I realized they were right and the true church. Honestly don't have a single Bible difficulty, all the doctrines are sound logic, all the traditions dig back into the first century.
You should at least look into what we belive. The chances are 100% that you have a misunderstanding about the church. If you didn't, you'd be catholic too.
@@timboslice980 My friend, there is nothing biblical about praying to Mary and other saints. Christians are called to pray to ONE God. We are not to call on the name of any other name other than Jesus. There is nothing biblical about going to a priest and confessing your sins and being "forgiven" and then giving penitence. There is one high priest, and that is Jesus, and He is the only one that can forgive sins. We have no need of an intercessor between the Father and us on earth any longer as we now have Jesus who goes directly to the Father. The amount of absolute idolatry worship in the catholic church is staggering. Have you ever seen the Vatican? Have you seen all the pagan imagery? Have you seen how the catholic church has taken pagan gods and littered the Vatican and their other "holy" churches with it's imagery? Have you seen the Pope's Audience hall that looks exactly like a snake and was built that way purposefully?
I'm well aware the disagreements within the Christian church. Calvinism is certainly not something that I agree with at all. Salvation was paid in blood FOR ALL. It is us who chooses to believe or not. We accept, or reject Christ and his free gift. Calvinism is absolutely wrong in every way.
@@EliVanFleet Check out the vatican snake hall debunked. People take pictures of it from a specific angle to make it look that way. Any other angle and the image disappears….. its a silly conspiracy theory.
Also check revelation 5:8 When he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell before the Lamb, each holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
How do the angels and saints get the prayers to offer to god here? Do we pray prayers only to god, he then takes the prayers and gives them to the angels and saints to offer back up to god? How absurd!? Sometimes i think you guys don’t look up what Catholics believe before you criticize us. It’s obvious you have a prejudice against catholics.
The thing is there are certain theological principles and full on passages in scripture that are NEVER the topic of sermons. I’ve never heard a pastor talk about Romans 2, they literally always start at 3 because no Protestants seem to realize theres a distinction between good works and works of the law. This causes a theological virus in your thinking that causes you to ignore so much scripture it’s alarming. You guys cant make sense of matthew 16, james 2, and revelation in its entirety. Vestments, incense, prayers to saints, the queen of heaven, not tolerating sinners in church, the Eucharist the whole book is so catholic that you guys just say “its a symbolic book”
Why is it of Protestants dont get it, they just assume its symbolic? Where is that hermeneutical rule?
@@EliVanFleet the Hail Mary prayer came from the Bible.
“To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.”
St Luke 1:27-28, 31 DRC
Allie, you did an amazing job defending our faith and having an honest and graceful conversation with Trent. Trent also did very well in being kind and respectful
Which faith would that be ? Protestants don't even agree amongst themselves !
Just how many denominations are there, again, in the Protestant world ? 20 000 ?
She put a b+ effort. She unfortunately was a little out of her depth w/Trent & unfortunately there wasn't enough time for him to unwind on Mariology. I think she should entertain having a guest like a Scott Hahn, a Tim Staples to dive into Mary because frankly, as Protestants, we really have Mary incorrect. Trent nailed it when he spoke of inscriptions and earliest findings describing the Theotokos & belief in her intercession.
@@anjpadilla003 Also let's talk about the practical effect on Protestant girls.
A Catholic girl growing up has a perfect *role-model* of *traditional* feminity.
So.. no blue hair, no tattooes, no man-bashing.
I live in a culturally-Catholic country, so a true patriarchy by definition not like in the US, and I am always AMAZED at the level of disrespect towards men you guys have. Shows like the View would never air primetime elsewhere.
Two decades after leaving behind my Jehovah's Witness upbringing and becoming agnostic, I became a Catholic this Easter Vigil. Every day I'm filled with gratitude to God for discovering a spiritual home rooted in tradition, history, and deep theological teachings. As a newcomer to Catholicism, I've come to realize that some of these teachings can be misunderstood, and I appreciate forums like Allie's channel where Christians engage in respectful and thought-provoking debates.
Trent's discussions have helped me grasp some of the finer points and nuances of my newfound faith. I like to say my RCIA class and fr. Mike Schmidt's Catechism in a year were instrumental in laying a solid foundation for my Catechization and I received much needed reinforcing of my understanding of Catholic doctrine through Trent's debates. I'm immensely grateful for the support and resources that have guided me on this journey.
May God continue to bless us all as we deepen our understanding and commitment to our faith and understanding of each other.
I also was a JW about 20 years ago. I went through a militant atheist period immediately after. I'm now a Catholic as of Easter 5 years ago. I couldn't imagine being anything else. My home and my family rests with God's church.
TO ALL NON-CATHOLICS: keep in mind Catholicism is not a Christian. Why? They teach a false gospel.
Catholic path to salvation: ccc 2068
Biblical gospel: Acts 16:30-33, Eph 2:8-9 and Eph 1:13.
Do not partner and be yoked with unbelievers. See them as Muslims or Mormons, etc. Love them with the true gospel and stand firm against the wiles of the devil. Her fruits are evil because she runs after a strange god.
Now to Mary:
Aside from worshipping the images of Mary, what other honors and attributes are heaped upon her by Catholics?
Mary was made as the mediatrix (Catechism on True Devotion to Mary, .17)
She was not tainted with sin (Glories and Virtues of Mary, p. 26)
Its faster and more effective to ask help in her name than in the name of Jesus (Ibid., p. 201)
God is subject to her (True devotions to Mary, p.9)
The confusing teachings of the Catholic Church regarding Mary are made more prominent in the following:
"Through her divine maternity, Mary in a certain way entered the divine family as a spouse who enters a royal home. With regard to the Father she became the first born daughter: I came out of the mouth of the Most High, the first-born before all creatures (Ecclus 24:5). With regard to the Son, she was a mother; with regard to the Holy Spirit, she was a bride." (Glories and Virtues of Mary, p. 43)
The Catholic beliefs quoted above state the confusing supposed relationship of Mary to the so-called Trinity. She is said to be the first born daughter of God the Father, the Mother of "God the Son" and the spouse of "God the Holy Spirit." But, does the Bible conform to these teachings?
Contradictions to biblical truth
The Holy Bible makes it certain that there is only one mediator between God and man. In 1 Timothy 2:5 this is written:
"For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." (New International Version)
Christ is the only One placed and purposed by God to be the Mediator between Him (God) and men. The Bible never teaches that Mary is the mediatrix.
It is not true that Mary was without sin because, according to the Bible, all men have sinned (Rom. 3:23) and the only One who did not commit sin is the Lord Jesus Christ (I Pt. 2:21-22)
The belief of the Catholic Church that it is much easier to ask anything in the name of Mary is unbiblical. In John 15:16, the Lord Jesus said to His apostles:
"...whatever you ask of the Father in My name, He may give you." (New King James Version)
Not in the name of Mary or anyone else can true Christians ask for anything from God but only in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
To teach that God is subject to Mary is blasphemous. The Scriptures teach that the Father is the One who is above all, not Mary:
"One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." (Eph. 4:6, Ibid.)
Likewise, the Catholic doctrine that Mary is allegedly the mother of God (whom Catholics believe to be Christ Himself) contradicts the truth written in Psalms 90:2 that God has no beginning, that He is neither man nor the son of man (Num. 23:19). The Bible does not call Mary the mother of God but was introduced as the mother of Jesus (Acts 1:14), the two (God and Christ) being different and distinct from each other.
Even the teaching that Mary is allegedly the daughter, mother and spouse of the three persons in the Trinity is unfounded and likewise a blasphemy against God. The true God does not consist of three persons. He is absolute in oneness and a spirit in nature (Is. 45:21; Jn. 4:24). He does not recognize any other god beside Himself (Is. 44:8; 45:21).
On the other hand, Mary praised the Lord. She also recognized that God is her Savior. She herself said that she is a servant of the Lord. (Lk 1:38). She likewise declared: ""My heart praises the Lord; my soul is glad because of God my Savior" (Lk. 1:38, Todays English Version).
Therefore, it is not proper to worship Mary. It is improper to pray to her and ask for ones needs. Worshipping her would be going against the teachings of the Holy Scriptures and is a downright rejection of the true God.
Welcome!
I thank God am a Protestant, he made no sense when it comes why they pray to Mary, when you can go directly to God: yes we ask a bother or sister to pray for us but we don’t think they are holy to even have statues of the people we asked them to pray for us or even repetitive rosary 📿 prayers. MAKES NO SENSE
Also it is stated in the Bible not to communicate with the dead, of course we don’t talk to death relatives READ BELOW
1 Chronicles 10:13-14 ESV / 176 helpful votes
So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the Lord in that he did not keep the command of the Lord, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. He did not seek guidance from the Lord. Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 ESV / 172 helpful votes
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.
I am pleased you have the peace of Jesus after long searching
After a lifetime in the Protestant Church, my husband and I converted to Catholicism in 2017. Even though I studied Bible in college (graduated from Biola University), I still had so many questions and thought Protestantism had so many "plot holes". I suffered from so much anxiety and very much struggled with mortal sin. After converting to Catholicism, I finally feel like Christianity makes sense and I am healed of a lot of what plagued me. Ad majorem dei gloriam. Thank you Jesus.
Christian--a FOLLOWERE of the TEACHINGS of Christ!!!
Compare what the Catholics teach with what Christ taught.
READ THE BIBLE!!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 yup, that’s what I did and found the truth in the Catholic Church
That's why I would love to be catholic so that can do as I please and then confess and be forgiven and start over and over.
@@littleway24601 Then answer these questions:
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say Mary will go/or is in heaven?
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say a mere man is head of His church?
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD says He changes to accomadate what man wants?
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say a Pope is head of His church?
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say Mary can hear our prayers?
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD says Mary is an intercessor/medaitor?
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD ssy mary can hear and reply to milions of prayers a day???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say to use/pray to beads???
etc, etc. YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!!!
Welcome home!
Trent Horn is a great apologist! Happy to be a Catholic! ❤
Great until Islam steps into the room.
Too bad Horn like all other Roman Catholics worships Mary!
@@jilesbo9175 The Roman Popery apologists twists words to claim they don't worship Mary, but when you ask lay, regular Catholics they will gladly say "Yes we worship and pray to Mary". The yeast of the apologists is sophistry, clever arguments and hypocrisy.
@@kenid4144 You're absolutely 💯% Correct.
quote----Trent Horn is a great apologist! Happy to be a Catholic!.. unquote
That is a worthless opinion!!!
Trent is one of the best at arguing against Sola Scriputura. Also, Trent's ecumenical debates are so full of grace and humility, and is a service to Catholics.
I’m a Catholic Convert from Church of Christ. I spent 29 years hating the Catholic Church, but people like Trent Horn really opened my eyes to the truth. I appreciate Allie’s willingness to have him on her show. These dialogues are important for the faith of all Christians.
What truth convinced you?
You we’re already from the truth.
I never had a problem with catholic intill lately learning more about scripture. Praying to other saints is insanely idol worship, it’s like praying and worshiping Angels. Which all the angels reject immediately accept the fallen. The removal of one of the ten commandments and splitting another commandment in two just so the Catholic Church be justified to keep praying to saints and Mary. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"
TO ALL NON-CATHOLICS: keep in mind Catholicism is not a Christian. Why? They teach a false gospel.
Catholic path to salvation: ccc 2068
Biblical gospel: Acts 16:30-33, Eph 2:8-9 and Eph 1:13.
Do not partner and be yoked with unbelievers. See them as Muslims or Mormons, etc. Love them with the true gospel and stand firm against the wiles of the devil. Her fruits are evil because she runs after a strange god.
Now to Mary:
Aside from worshipping the images of Mary, what other honors and attributes are heaped upon her by Catholics?
Mary was made as the mediatrix (Catechism on True Devotion to Mary, .17)
She was not tainted with sin (Glories and Virtues of Mary, p. 26)
Its faster and more effective to ask help in her name than in the name of Jesus (Ibid., p. 201)
God is subject to her (True devotions to Mary, p.9)
The confusing teachings of the Catholic Church regarding Mary are made more prominent in the following:
"Through her divine maternity, Mary in a certain way entered the divine family as a spouse who enters a royal home. With regard to the Father she became the first born daughter: I came out of the mouth of the Most High, the first-born before all creatures (Ecclus 24:5). With regard to the Son, she was a mother; with regard to the Holy Spirit, she was a bride." (Glories and Virtues of Mary, p. 43)
The Catholic beliefs quoted above state the confusing supposed relationship of Mary to the so-called Trinity. She is said to be the first born daughter of God the Father, the Mother of "God the Son" and the spouse of "God the Holy Spirit." But, does the Bible conform to these teachings?
Contradictions to biblical truth
The Holy Bible makes it certain that there is only one mediator between God and man. In 1 Timothy 2:5 this is written:
"For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." (New International Version)
Christ is the only One placed and purposed by God to be the Mediator between Him (God) and men. The Bible never teaches that Mary is the mediatrix.
It is not true that Mary was without sin because, according to the Bible, all men have sinned (Rom. 3:23) and the only One who did not commit sin is the Lord Jesus Christ (I Pt. 2:21-22)
The belief of the Catholic Church that it is much easier to ask anything in the name of Mary is unbiblical. In John 15:16, the Lord Jesus said to His apostles:
"...whatever you ask of the Father in My name, He may give you." (New King James Version)
Not in the name of Mary or anyone else can true Christians ask for anything from God but only in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
To teach that God is subject to Mary is blasphemous. The Scriptures teach that the Father is the One who is above all, not Mary:
"One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." (Eph. 4:6, Ibid.)
Likewise, the Catholic doctrine that Mary is allegedly the mother of God (whom Catholics believe to be Christ Himself) contradicts the truth written in Psalms 90:2 that God has no beginning, that He is neither man nor the son of man (Num. 23:19). The Bible does not call Mary the mother of God but was introduced as the mother of Jesus (Acts 1:14), the two (God and Christ) being different and distinct from each other.
Even the teaching that Mary is allegedly the daughter, mother and spouse of the three persons in the Trinity is unfounded and likewise a blasphemy against God. The true God does not consist of three persons. He is absolute in oneness and a spirit in nature (Is. 45:21; Jn. 4:24). He does not recognize any other god beside Himself (Is. 44:8; 45:21).
On the other hand, Mary praised the Lord. She also recognized that God is her Savior. She herself said that she is a servant of the Lord. (Lk 1:38). She likewise declared: ""My heart praises the Lord; my soul is glad because of God my Savior" (Lk. 1:38, Todays English Version).
Therefore, it is not proper to worship Mary. It is improper to pray to her and ask for ones needs. Worshipping her would be going against the teachings of the Holy Scriptures and is a downright rejection of the true God.
So you left Christ to become a Catholic? What cause you to change?
Great conversation. I'm a Former prot going through the RCIA to be confirmed in August. Trent Horn, Scott Hann and Keith Nester resources have helped me alot on my journey.
Welcome home!
Praise God!
then you should certainly read "Evangelical Answers" by Eric Svendsen !!! it destroys Scott Hahn's arguments quite easily. educate yourself dude
Welcome home!
Keith Nester is awesome.
Trent Horn asks questions and lets you think.
Thank you Trent, you helped love my my Catholic faith.
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???
Book, chapter and verse!!!!
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Where in the bible is said Mary can hear our prayers? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary went to/will go to heaven? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary is a mediator/imtercessor? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary remained a virgin? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary was sinless? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary is to be worshiped.prayed to? Book, chapter and verse
I KNOW absolutely NO Catholic will reply!!! If one does, every answer will be either out of context, or twisted scripture.
I have always been Protestant, but this conversation did help me understand more about Catholicism. Thank you for this conversation!
Why You Should Be Catholic 🤣🤣
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I'm catholic and i respect Allie for actually talking with an educated Catholic instead of just crushing a misrepresentation of Catholicism. Great talk between you guys
---Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun.
---Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of you; in Sheol who will give you praise?
---Ecclesiastes 12:7 And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
---Psalm 146:4 When his breath departs, he returns to the earth; on that very day his plans perish.
---Ecclesiastes 9:6 Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun.
---Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”
----James 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.
---Job 14:10-12 But a man dies and is laid low; man breathes his last, and where is he? As waters fail from a lake and a river wastes away and dries up, so a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep.
--****John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.
---Hebrews 9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment. (Judgement on Judgement day)
---Acts 7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep (died).
---Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
-----Job 14:12 So a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep.
----Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
@@Zoeread19 WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???
Catholics misrepresent their faith. It's clear that they treat Mary like a goddess but say that they dont.
Actually I think most people accurately understand Roman Catholicism and reject for what it is... Heresy. Roman Catholicism has a false gospel.
@@AllforOne_OneforAll1689 ok 🙄 what denomination are you? Catholics believe we are saved by a living relationship with Christ. Sounds real false....yeah ok
Catholic here, what a great conversation! Thank you for having Trent on and for entering into such respectful dialogue.
im sorry but he was not answering the Mary question.. Beating around the bush. I was hoping for an answer but not any catholic has a biblical answer.
@@Loved-ByGod Read the last verse of John. Everything is not in the Bible. That's why he left us the Church, founded by the apostles.
@@Americanheld
🧑⚖️ But all good works that make a person spiritually mature is in the Scriptures. Unfortunately, prayer to Mary and the use of rosary are not in the Scriptures.
@calebjushua9252 we are saved on grace 'alone' was made up by disobedient satanic conversationist Martin Luther. He hates St. James because of the works and trading of the church fathers.
@@Loved-ByGod A great book is Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary by Brant Pitre. That'll answers many if not all your questions as to how Catholics view Mary. God bless.
Allie was so nice and she conducted this conversation with Trent very well! Catholic here, but I believe we are united in Christ my Protestant brothers - much love to you all!
I'm a Protestant with Catholic friends. Thank you for this well mannered discussion towards understanding each other. You did such a good job of articulating Protestant views. I look forward to more!
*Baptist views. I'm not sure Lutherans would agree with some stuff she said.
It would be surprising if Ms. Stuckey posted more debates like those she conducted with Trent Horn and George Farmer. Too many viewers either outright converted to Catholicism or were put on the path of conversion…not the outcome she had intended.
I'm a young Catholic that transferred to a Catholic University for my junior year of college and I love my Catholic faith. Viva Christo Rey!
Which one? THE Catholic University 😅
@@VincentVu846 Haha no, Franciscan University of Steubenville. I'm a computer science major and they had a program.
@@tylerdean3489 Noice! Even better!
The Catholic Church uses pagan symbols. If you don’t believe me watch. ALL RELIGIONS COME FROM BABYLON. in the video you will see the actual pagan symbols the Catholic Church uses. I suggest you watch it and learn the truth and start believing the Bible.. why would anybody want to belong to Church or uses pagan symbols???
Viva cristo🫶🙏
Trent played a big role in converting me to Catholicism after being an evangelical Protestant for many years. I love the guy 😊
Every Christian should be “evangelical”
@@bradleykimmons you know what they mean bro
@@DanielWelsh-pr5xi no, not really. I think there’s a serious issue within the Catholic Church reaching out to unbelievers. And it’s not helped by Catholics constantly positioning themselves as “not” evangelical.
The RCC doctrine changes the gospel and that means it is not a saving gospel, it is a works gospel. I get this information I am sharing from Mike Gendron and his Proclaiming the Gospel ministry. Mike is an ex-roman catholic, as am I. God opened my eyes to the false teaching of the RCC.
There are many Scriptures in the Bible that state we are saved by God’s grace alone. Jesus is the ONLY way, not one of many multiple-choice ways that so many false religions teach. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.”
The numbers Mike put after what the RCC teaches is the paragraph number where it is found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church
The Bible teaches: Titus 3:5 “He saved us, not because of any righteous deeds we had done, but because of His mercy”
RCC doctrine teaches that “by His death and resurrection, Jesus Christ has ‘opened’ heaven to us” [1026]. Each person attains His own salvation by grace and good works [1477].
The Bible teaches: 1 Peter 1:18-19 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like sliver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, [19] but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
These words apply to the Lord Jesus Christ alone, not to Mary but
RCC doctrine teaches that Mary is the sinless co-redeemer, “Without a single sin to restrain her, she gave herself entirely to the person and work of her son; she did so in order to serve the mystery of redemption with Him…being obedient she became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race” [494]
The above doctrine of the RCC is blasphemy, it is the doctrine of demons. NOWHERE in Scripture does it say that any person except the Lord Jesus is sinless. Mary knew she was a sinner and in need of a Savior. Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said: “My soul exalts the Lord, [47] And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior!
The Bible teaches: Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified and Hebrews 7:27-28 who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.” Jesus said when He was hanging on the cross: John 19:28-30 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things had already been accomplished, to fulfill the Scripture, said, “I am thirsty.” [29] A jar full of sour wine was standing there; so they put a sponge full of the sour wine upon a branch of hyssop and brought it up to His mouth. [30] Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit.
RCC doctrine denies it is finished. Which means they are calling Jesus a liar when He Himself said IT IS FINISHED! RCC doctrine states” The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the eucharist are one single sacrifice..the same Christ who offered Himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and offered in a unbloody manner” [1397]. The sacrifice is “offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead” [1414].
The RCC is saying that Jesus is continually being sacrificed on the alter, that is why they have Him hanging on the cross. Jesus is not on the cross, He is seated at the right hand of the Father. RCC priests actually think they have the authority to call Almighty God from His throne in heaven to sacrifice Him on their ‘altar’ and they actually believe they are turning bread and wine into the actual body of Jesus Christ. And then the priest holds up this fake Jesus for the congregation to worship. BLASPHEMY! IDOLATRY! They are worshipping a false Jesus. Who would want mankind to worship a false Jesus and believe a false gospel? Satan of course.
Jesus did not die for dead people. After we die our eternity is sealed forever. If Jesus is not your Lord and Savior, your eternity will be in hell. We have nothing whatsoever to offer to God. We come to Him with a broken spirit. Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, You will not despise. We cannot do any works to earn our way to heaven. Jesus said, “Repent and believe the gospel.”
@@bradleykimmons It is not easy being Catholic. There are many teachings we must adhere to, which is explained in the Catechism. For an evangelical, literally all you need is Jesus.
Trent solidified my choice to remain catholic with his book “Why We are Catholic”
🙏Amen
As a lifelong Protestant now in my 20s, I started attending Catholic Mass and fell in love with it. I agree with their views on the real presence in the Eucharist and I want to be a part of it. My soul has felt Christ more than ever. However, my mind still has many unanswered questions, so I must start my journey and eventually attend RCIA (though not anytime soon, as I want to really understand it). I started reading Thomas Aquinas and Bishop Robert Barron. I also think I should start praying the Rosary. Any recommendations?
Before you are confirmed into the RCC, start reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church to make sure you agree with everything the church officially teaches. Focus on the dogmas, which are the required teachings. From my personal experience, the Marian dogmas are sometimes what keep Protestants from leaving for the RCC. Two of the dogmas in particular are problematic for Protestant: that Mary was sinless since conception and that she was assumed body and soul into heaven. These are non-negotiable beliefs for Roman Catholics.
I was a Catholic for 15 years . Urgent recommendation for you is… Please read Bible. Cover to cover, with lots of prayers. Many times if you can. Holy Spirit will guide you. God bless.
Listen to Father Chris Alar's Explaining the Faith series. You can watch it in YT. He is a Marian priest from the Shrine of Divine Mercy and he explains very well the basics of the Catholic faith.
Pray the Anima Christi every day. It's an ancient Catholic prayer
I personally prefer to pray it in Latin.
Soul of Christ, sanctify me.
Body of Christ, save me.
Blood of Christ, inebriate me.
Water from the side of Christ, wash me.
Passion of Christ, strengthen me.
O Good Jesus, hear me.
Within your wounds hide me.
Permit me not to be separated from you.
From the wicked foe, defend me.
At the hour of my death, call me
and bid me come to you
That with your saints I may praise you
For ever and ever. Amen.
@@eleanatopp1 Thank you for your guidance!
I was a homeless for several yrs.one day,I entered a Catholic Church.i prayed infront of statue of Mary ,crying and asking her intercession to help me find people ,who would lift me from life miseries.that prayer was granted by God,the next day.To make long story short,I now have a medical related degree and own several real estate properties. I always go back to that church to thank Jesus and His mother ,for blessings received!
Glory to the almighty God.
Why pray in front of a statute made with human hands? God is calling you unto Himself. Mary does not hear your prayers. There's one mediator, Jesus Christ.
But did you become spiritually rich by understanding the gospel of Jesus Christ?
@@9290SC You should consider praying to God about who and what He is.
@@9290SC The statue is just a visual, it does nothing. Where in the bible say Mary (and the communion of saints) don't hear our prayers. We are all apart of the body of Christ while living on earth or in heaven.
I’ve been a protestant since I was 23 years old when I first came to know Jesus and now I’m starting my inquiry in the fall towards the Catholic Church.
Praise God! I'll be praying for you
Good for you come home!
dont be deceived.
quote--- now I’m starting my inquiry in the fall towards the Catholic Church... unquote
WHY???? I suggest you compare the teachings of catholics to Christian!!!
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???
@@mitchellosmer1293 what in the Martin Luther is going on here. Which prot denom claims this man? Speak up
Catholic here. Thank you so much for the conversation. It was lovely to hear both sides.
When I hear “Jesus say Blessed are those who hear the word of God and obey” back to the people in speaking ab his mother Mary. I don’t take on either of the parties perspective. God is literally saying she is BLESSED. My mother listened to the word of god even in her scariest moment, and now I am here. Blessed are those who hear the word of god and obey. Obey as my holy mother did and you shall to be blessed. I believe he was lifting his mother up in recognition.
As a former protestant Catholic convert, may God bless you, Allie, and thank you for having Trent on. Thank you for fighting for Christ and keeping dialogue open but pushing back where your conscience leads you in accordance with your understanding of Scripture. May we be united as One in Christ through the bond of the Holy Spirit
As a protestant, and not anti-Catholic...I thoroughly appreciate how Catholics value Mary. She is valued as a godly example of a woman and a mother. That is a wonderful example of how we should value godly women and mothers in the church today. We all need more of that.
As a Protestant myself, I thoroughly appreciate how very reverent Catholics are and how they respect their church in traditions.
Thank you! The harder part, or most important part for us is to do as she says, pray , and pray the rosary for the conversion of sinners every day!
Pretty based of you
As a converted Catholic, one of the reasons I became Catholic was because they honored Mary like she was Jesus's mother. Even if she didn't answer prayers, she should be valued and respected so much.
@@Turnip1919 Satan and The Protestants dislike Mary.
A beautiful, civil, and respectful dialogue. Love to see it. I'm a Catholic revert.
Fresh Ex mormon here. Working on finding my place in Christianity thank you for this.
Trent Horn had a big impact on why I converted to Catholicism 🏄🏻♀️🏄🏻♀️
Surfing the Tiber 😎
Welcome HOME!!
@@GratiaPrima_ Why do soooo many catholics say, "welcome home", as you have? Is the catholic church/religion a "home"?
@@sammichaels3196
Because Protestantism broke away from the Catholic Church. Hence when a Protestant becomes Catholic, it is a return back to catholism.
The prodigal son returning home.
@sammichaels3196 Protestants were born out of Catholicism. So it is a big welcome home after you leave your parents. You can still be blessed and holy Christians even if you do not return to Catholic roots. I see Protestants as a different expression of the same faith in God to be honest.
same!
So much respect for Allie for even having this debate/discussion
Thank you, Allie. Because of your podcast, I've grown to love my Catholic faith more, have great respect and love for Mama Mary, especially to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. I vow to say my rosary everyday aside from my daily prayers fornthe rest of my life. I pray you'd also be enlightened by the Holy Spirit and God bless you always 🙏❤- Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
I'm a craddle Catholic. I married a jewish man who grew up orthodox. His grandparents on the mother side owned the Hotel Altman in New Jersey. It was a kosher hotel and restaurant. Going to Jewish school and Jewish camp every summer. That's the kind of enviroment he grew up. After 20 years of marriage my husband converted to Catholicism. Everybody at my parish wanted to know what I did! 😂
He prays the Rosary everyday. He has been a sponsor in RCIA since his conversion on 2012 . We are both in a marriage ministry. His closeness to God has grown so much since he became Catholic. He's more patient, understanding, charitable, merciful, etc. God is Great!!! ❤
Not Catholic but I really like Trent. He just seems like a really nice guy and I appreciate his willingness to have these conversations.
Not Catholic yet. Jesus, the New Adam, Mary the New Eve. Jesus, from the manna fulfilled as the bread of life, the stone tablets fulfilled in the Word made flesh, the rod of Aaron fulfilled as the True High Priest. The manna, the tablets, the rod contained inside the Ark, fulfilled in Mary the Ark of the New Covenant who carried God in her womb.
He’s great, help me understand a lot and his videos always have a message of kindness and truth and he’s very well spoken with clarity
TO ALL NON-CATHOLICS: keep in mind Catholicism is not a Christian. Why? They teach a false gospel.
Catholic path to salvation: ccc 2068
Biblical gospel: Acts 16:30-33, Eph 2:8-9 and Eph 1:13.
Do not partner and be yoked with unbelievers. See them as Muslims or Mormons, etc. Love them with the true gospel and stand firm against the wiles of the devil. Her fruits are evil because she runs after a strange god.
Now to Mary:
Aside from worshipping the images of Mary, what other honors and attributes are heaped upon her by Catholics?
Mary was made as the mediatrix (Catechism on True Devotion to Mary, .17)
She was not tainted with sin (Glories and Virtues of Mary, p. 26)
Its faster and more effective to ask help in her name than in the name of Jesus (Ibid., p. 201)
God is subject to her (True devotions to Mary, p.9)
The confusing teachings of the Catholic Church regarding Mary are made more prominent in the following:
"Through her divine maternity, Mary in a certain way entered the divine family as a spouse who enters a royal home. With regard to the Father she became the first born daughter: I came out of the mouth of the Most High, the first-born before all creatures (Ecclus 24:5). With regard to the Son, she was a mother; with regard to the Holy Spirit, she was a bride." (Glories and Virtues of Mary, p. 43)
The Catholic beliefs quoted above state the confusing supposed relationship of Mary to the so-called Trinity. She is said to be the first born daughter of God the Father, the Mother of "God the Son" and the spouse of "God the Holy Spirit." But, does the Bible conform to these teachings?
Contradictions to biblical truth
The Holy Bible makes it certain that there is only one mediator between God and man. In 1 Timothy 2:5 this is written:
"For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." (New International Version)
Christ is the only One placed and purposed by God to be the Mediator between Him (God) and men. The Bible never teaches that Mary is the mediatrix.
It is not true that Mary was without sin because, according to the Bible, all men have sinned (Rom. 3:23) and the only One who did not commit sin is the Lord Jesus Christ (I Pt. 2:21-22)
The belief of the Catholic Church that it is much easier to ask anything in the name of Mary is unbiblical. In John 15:16, the Lord Jesus said to His apostles:
"...whatever you ask of the Father in My name, He may give you." (New King James Version)
Not in the name of Mary or anyone else can true Christians ask for anything from God but only in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
To teach that God is subject to Mary is blasphemous. The Scriptures teach that the Father is the One who is above all, not Mary:
"One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." (Eph. 4:6, Ibid.)
Likewise, the Catholic doctrine that Mary is allegedly the mother of God (whom Catholics believe to be Christ Himself) contradicts the truth written in Psalms 90:2 that God has no beginning, that He is neither man nor the son of man (Num. 23:19). The Bible does not call Mary the mother of God but was introduced as the mother of Jesus (Acts 1:14), the two (God and Christ) being different and distinct from each other.
Even the teaching that Mary is allegedly the daughter, mother and spouse of the three persons in the Trinity is unfounded and likewise a blasphemy against God. The true God does not consist of three persons. He is absolute in oneness and a spirit in nature (Is. 45:21; Jn. 4:24). He does not recognize any other god beside Himself (Is. 44:8; 45:21).
On the other hand, Mary praised the Lord. She also recognized that God is her Savior. She herself said that she is a servant of the Lord. (Lk 1:38). She likewise declared: ""My heart praises the Lord; my soul is glad because of God my Savior" (Lk. 1:38, Todays English Version).
Therefore, it is not proper to worship Mary. It is improper to pray to her and ask for ones needs. Worshipping her would be going against the teachings of the Holy Scriptures and is a downright rejection of the true God.
Trent's motivation is to convert you. As well as all these fans who are convinced Rome is the only church.
Protestant naively believe Rome believes Protestant faith is real, but Rome believes they are the Only true church (and spend a lot on these Catholic Answers campaigns). As do Eastern Orthodox. And oriental orthodox.
Watch some Gavin Ortlund on Truth Unites.
@@revelation1215lol what? 😂
Thank you for the cordial conversation between you two. I was a Protestant for 18 years and then I converted to Catholicism two years ago once I learned the Bible had 73 books for over a millennium and a half before the 66 book bible was made only 500 years ago. Then I discovered the church fathers and learn that these men were taught by the apostles and when I read their stuff it was obvious these guys were Catholic in nature and after looking at the timeline of Church history and seeing that these church fathers with their Catholic sounding doctrines, carried and spread Christianity for over a millennium before the Reformation made me wonder, "maybe there's some truth to Catholicism because God seemed to be okay with them and they are basically the only Christian church around for all these centuries, so if God is okay with using them, maybe I should look more into it" and so I did and now i identify as Catholic and I see why Jesus established a leader of the church.
im sorry but he was not answering the Mary question.. Beating around the bush. I was hoping for an answer but not any catholic has a biblical answer.
@@Loved-ByGod He and many other have countless of debates and responses on videos regarding Mary. Praying to Mary is a layered theological doctrine because it talks about venerating Mary in a unique way because she's the mother of God, and because she's the queen so she does get a special grace for being the queen, another layer is the idea of prayer to Christians who are not alive on Earth, the next layer would be to explain what prayer actually is and isn't. There's a lot of barriers to explain before you can even get to why Catholics make a big deal about Mary. Feel free to check out other Catholic videos on CZcams that deal with that question specifically. He did answer it though. He said later on the conversation that the body of Christ is one shared with those on earth and with those in heaven so if we can communicate with those on earth we can also communicate with those in heaven because prayer just means asking. He was spending some time trying to understand the framework of our vocabulary because prayer means asking or intercession for Catholics. She thinks that dead Christians are dead and are not aware of anything in heaven (where is that in the Bible) but Catholics believe that Christians are alive with Jesus in heaven (to be away from this body is to be with the Lord) and are aware of what's going on (The angels rejoicing over someone repenting on earth is a sign of heaven being aware, we have a cloud of witnesses like in Hebrews mentions, He mentioned in the catacombs of the early church that they would ask Peter and Paul to pray for at that loved one even though Peter and Paul have been dead for a long time at that point). I encourage you to rewatch the video or look up other Catholic videos that deal specifically with that issue.
Moses went up to the mountain and it didn’t even go a week and they started to worship a cow. So the fact that the Apostles died and left disciples doesnt actually say much. Not to mention how John says he was banned from a church by a diciple. Furthermore Jesus Christ rebuked alot of chuches saying they had gone astray in Revelation. Besides how do we even know that the teachings left from the diciples of the apostles are even real? For scriptures we have many manuscripts but how reliable are these writings?
On the other hand when (in the old testament) all got corrupted and no one worshipped God or remembered how to worship God, meaning there was no tradition, King Josiah read the scriptures and it was an authority for Israel and God accepted it their repentance.
So.
Amen!
@@Loved-ByGoddoes the Bible say that you can’t talk to Mary? No, there you go, question answered.
What I always get from Protestants in debates is that instead of one pope, you yourself can be your own pope.
I so appreciate this discussion. Thank you Allie for asking great questions and thank you Trent for patiently and humbly explaining your perspective and knowledge of the Catholic faith.
I’m a former Baptist and now a Catholic. I appreciate the respectful dialogue without the fighting and arguing.
im sorry but he was not answering the Mary question.. Beating around the bush. I was hoping for an answer but not any catholic has a biblical answer.
@shannonvangerpen4129, what made you decide to switch from Baptist to Catholic?
@@Loved-ByGod What makes you not see Mary as being special. No other women on earth birthed in virginity nor birthed our own Saviour ... To be pure.... For God to enter as man... the vessel has to be pure its logical .... totaly logical. think about it.
@@Loved-ByGodwhat biblical evidence are you looking for specifically?
It cause its all catholic/ orthodox/anti protestant propaganda online
@Loved-ByGod
Catholic convert here! Best decision that I have ever made. Looking forward to listening.
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???
Book, chapter and verse!!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293: based on my life experience, cult members typically dwell on unrelated points when posting comments - usually associated with a theme.
With that said, judging from your obsession about a particular day of the week, my guess is you are from the cult known as “seventh day adventist”.
I’m curious if my perception is correct?
@@amark350 quote----With that said, judging from your obsession about a particular day of the week.... unquote
The Disciples Kept the Sabbath 85 Times in the book of Acts alone!!!
Jesus kept the Sabbath!!!
So we can see that the disciples attended a Sabbath service 85 times in the book of Acts alone. Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath” in this passage.
Apparently I am not the only one obsessied about a particular day of the week.
----By your comment--it is OBVIOUS you WILL NOT OBEY GOD!!! Nor Jesus!!!
Do you murder to??? Steal?? Commit adultery? If not,why not????
IT IS ONE Package contract you ageed to when you decided to be a "Christian"!!!!!!
If you refuse to keep the contract. you are NO different that the Isarelites at Mt Sanai, woshiping the calf!!!
quote----With that said, judging from your obsession about a particular day of the week, my guess is you are from the cult known as “seventh day adventist”... unquote
IT IS OBVIOUS you have NO IDEA of what a "cult" Is!!!
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noun
#1----a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
"the cult of St. Olaf"
#2----a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
"a network of Satan-worshiping cults"
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#3---a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
"a cult of personality surrounding the lead
Looks to me, EVERY religion/idealogy IN THE WORLD fits at least one definition!!!!
So, which ones fits the SDA????
SDA--#1------a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.-----Gof
SDA #2------a relatively small group (20 million) of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister
Who are you to judge me whether my religion is "strange or sinister"???
SDA #-----a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
Misplaced towards God/Jesus???????
as a very dedicated catholic i absolutely love videos like this because while i may not agree with protestant/non denom views i still appreciate hearing their beliefs
I love this conversation and how you’re both well spoken and articulate. You both love and seek Truth. I’m a Catholic now, but love my Protestant roots. Thank you for this!
I was so anti Catholic, anti Catholic books, until one day, I decided to read Catholic books from Catholic sources and found out that Protestants do not understand actually what Catholics really believe, nor do they know the entire biblical bases for their beliefs, they’re missing books, and then I learned these two words ‘Latria’ and ‘Dulia’, I mean, really learned them, then searched for Catholic answers about their biblical bases for these words, I studied why the 10 commandments of the Catholic was different and who changed it, and then I started googling, who started the first Baptist church, who started the first non denominational, who started the first Protestant church, first Anglican, and learned about king Henry the 8th (killing multiple wives, jailing the head priest of England for life) and about Martin Luther 95 thesis, etc…
There’s the Catholic explanation of scripture and of history,
There’s the Protestant explanation of scripture and of history,
There’s the secularist explanation of scripture(40k+ sects) and history… the one who gets the most hate by the entire world, the Catholics… I read about Masonic infiltration into all the world’s organizations, including the CC, and I read the CATECHISM, not to judge at this point, but to truly understand and a whole world opened up. I was so happy, as happy and joyful and filled with love as I did when I learned about JESUS and not just about an unknown, unnamed God I was talking to my entire life knowing one existed… I cried for accusing Catholics of idolatry, I cried so Many cast Mary aside, she prophesied she would be called blessed for all generations. I’m in catechism classes now. I will forever love Protestant enthusiasm and love for God, but now I’m learning the history of the martyrs, the continued unbroken line of Christian history, I’m learning what it meant to be Christian all these years.. who founded the Catholic Church? Not any man, but Jesus Christ. There will always be a battle between good and evil, and it takes place inside the church because the world is lost already. Please give it a chance, just study it, not from Protestant sources, from Catholic sources, understand it, completely, and then do your comparing, cannot understand catholicism by learning it second hand, that truth will always be hidden. Didn’t scripture say that the Saints would Rule with Christ? They’d judge the angels? Even the most outrageous things you’ve heard, let their official sources explain it. Learn about the Papal Bulls against joining freemasonry, the only religion that freemasonry wouldn’t allow join were Catholics forever until recently, if you don’t know about what they do at higher levels, behind closed doors, look up Albert Pike’s morals and dogma, and who they worship. Only the Catholic Church stood against it, and it against the Catholics. She is the mother church and I’m so blessed to be home. Please, Protestant, take the time to learn history, again, from another POV, read the church fathers’ writings.
Amen, welcome home 🙏🏽
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Amen, love your comment!!
Welcome Home
So beautifully said!! Thank you!
The thing is Jesus never wanted us to be separated. I can never understand Protestants that fully focus on Mary being such a figure in the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is so much more! I love being Catholic.
Why is Mary important?
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Because according to Catholicism not believing Mary was sinless or the ‘queen of heaven’ is a sin. We take issue with that
he dis say "if ye are not one ye are not mine" So what do you do with that?
We are Christocentric!❤
@@shawnboahene5231 Why is Mary important? I hope this helps you, it helped me
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I haven’t read all the comments. And I don’t even know if you’ll see this since it’s been a few weeks since this video posted. I’m also not so good at quoting scripture directly. But there are two verses/passages that stand out in my mind as to why we ask Mary for her intercession. At the wedding at Cana, Mary asks Jesus to give the family more wine as they had run out. Jesus tells her, “my time has not yet come.” But He listens to His mother anyway because she asked Him and turns water into wine. His first public miracle. The second verse/passage that I think of is when Jesus is hanging on the cross. Mary and the apostle John are at the foot of the cross, and Jesus says to them, “Woman behold your son, son behold your mother.” In this verse, as Christians, we know this is Jesus giving His mother to the rest of us to be our mother, as represented by John the beloved disciple. And so we can infer that in so asking Mary our spiritual mother to intercede for us, we can be comforted by the fact from scripture that Jesus listens to and obeys His mother’s requests. God made her without original sin. He made her different from the rest of us. She is held to a higher standard than the rest of His creatures because she was immaculately conceived, born without sin, lived without sin, died without sin.
Love to see a respectful and grace-filled dialogue between Catholics and Protestants! Thanks for hosting this 🥰
Becoming Catholic is the best decision I ever made. I have never found a Catholic teaching that didn’t make sense after researching it deeper. This is the True Church established by Jesus Christ. 🙏🏻❤️
I was once on the same stance as Allie on my faith, I was baptized Catholic but spent most of my life out of the Catholic Church, over the last 4 years I went back to the Catholic Church and received my adult confirmation, reading the Bible threw the eyes of the church fathers and tradition has really cemented me as a Catholic. Proverbs 3:5-6 lean not on your own understanding. And when you read the Bible Christ did not establish a book he established a CHURCH. One for all Christian’s to adhere too. Praying for all my Protestant brothers and sisters in Christ.
He established a church, but it wasn't the catholic church until the bishop of Rome decided he should be viewed as God on earth.
@@johnking5928 wrong and the pope is never viewed as God on earth.....yet another protestant lie.
Reading the Bible through the eyes of the church fathers and tradition really worries me 🙏
@@johnking5928 The pope has never said or taught that you are bearing false witness
God bless Trent Horn and his humility & holiness! Christ saves❤
Question: "Are Catholic beliefs and practices biblical?"
Answer: The issue concerning any church and its practices should be "Is this Biblical?" If a teaching is Biblical (taken in context), it should be embraced. If it is not, it should be rejected. God is more interested in whether a church is doing His will and obeying His Word than whether it can trace a line of succession back to Jesus' apostles. Jesus was very concerned about abandoning the Word of God to follow the traditions of men (Mark 7:7). Traditions are not inherently invalid-there are some good and valuable traditions. Again, the issue must be whether a doctrine, practice, or tradition is Biblical. How then does the Roman Catholic Church compare with the teachings of the Word of God?
Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).
Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.
Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians 3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).
Baptism: In the New Testament baptism is ALWAYS practiced AFTER saving faith in Christ. Baptism is not the means of salvation; it is faith in the Gospel that saves (1 Corinthians 1:14-18; Romans 10:13-17). The Roman Catholic Church teaches baptismal regeneration of infants, a practice never found in Scripture. The only possible hint of infant baptism in the Bible that the Roman Catholic Church can point to is that the whole household of the Philippian jailer was baptized in Acts 16:33. However, the context nowhere mentions infants. Acts 16:31 declares that salvation is by faith. Paul spoke to all of the household in verse 32, and the whole household believed (verse 34). This passage only supports the baptism of those who have already believed, not of infants.
Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).
Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the "lay people," whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).
Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.
Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).
Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.
Many other examples could be given. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: "What does Scripture say?" (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
@@FollowerOfTheLight2782 your questions and then self answers pre-supposes sola scriptura which simply isn't true and not even in the bible nor church history
As a lifelong Catholic, Mary has always been something I struggled with understanding. But hearing you ask such deep questions to Trent has made me realize the deep richness I had not considered with the way in which she hears prayers. So thank you for having this conversation and helping me consider another aspect of my faith ❤
Raised Catholic and then left to become Presbyterian and then realized something was missing.
I went back to the Catholic Church and fell in love with Jesus in the Eucharist. Nothing compares! Jesus words are true when He says, Unless you eat my flesh…you have no life in you!
I invite everyone to come to Jesus and experience His healing Love and peace in the Eucharist!❤
You have the advantage of seeing both sides of the fence clearly…. Glad you found your way back!
Bread isn't changing to Jesus's flesh and wine isn't changing to blood. Science can show us today that this isn't true. Just eat communion bread attach some isotopes ,swallow it with an endoscope. When it gets to the stomach, after some hours bring it back up and check if it's flesh or a different person's blood.
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???
Book, chapter and verse!!!!
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Where in the bible is said Mary can hear our prayers? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary went to/will go to heaven? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary is a mediator/imtercessor? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary remained a virgin? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary was sinless? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary is to be worshiped.prayed to? Book, chapter and verse
I KNOW absolutely NO Catholic will reply!!! If one does, every answer will be either out of context, or twisted scripture.
@@mitchellosmer1293 Where in the Bible does the Bible say that the Bible ALONE is your only Authority and everything has to be stated in the Bible in order to believe it?
Tradition really opens up the door for why we pray to Mary. The disconnect between Protestants and Catholics is Sola Scriptura. If you can ONLY focus on the Bible as your only source for Christian teachings then your limiting your understanding of Christianity.
Trent said: The Word of God is how we know that praying to Mary is beneficial. The Word of God is both Scripture and Oral Tradition which is BTW IN SCRIPTURE.
Paul says that much Christian teaching is to be found in the tradition which is handed down by word of mouth (2 Tim. 2:2). He instructs us to “stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thess. 2:15).
I always have to point out that there isn’t any scripture verses that says Bible ALONE is our only authority. Again, that’s the disconnect.
If you can show me the verse then I’ll gladly start answering all your questions.
“If one does it will either be out of context or twisted scripture”-You. This is not language of someone wanting to seek truth. You are asking these questions in the mindset of sola scriptura. First, you have to remove yourself out of this box to find the fullness of the faith. Be careful not to think in black and white (clearly In Bible/Not in Bible). The Bible was still being formulated throughout the first 300 years of the church, at the same time, the Church fathers and earliest Christians were establishing traditions and rituals. (Language Catholic Church uses): “Asking Mary for her intercession” was among these early traditions established as Trent said in the video. In the same way the Bible was put together so was the early Catholic Doctrine. Again, in the video, even though the lady put an ad right in between his best point, he says the earliest Christians were asking the apostles to pray for them and the earliest recorded prayer in history was asking the Theotokos “Mary” to pray for us. Many people hate what they think the Catholic Church is, but almost no one hates what’s the Catholic Church truly is.
I am Baptist and appreciate this conversation so much! I never want to frame other people’s beliefs in an unfair way. These conversations are very helpful in learning to talk to each other and ask good questions so we can understand one another’s beliefs.
Yes, continue to learn. May St Polycarp and St. Ignatius help you gain a greater understanding of the fullness of the truth.
Amen. Totally fine if someone wants to argue against Catholic teaching but most objectors to Catholicism are objecting to what their “tradition” has taught them about Catholicism rather than actual Catholic teaching.
Amen
Please watch and follow videos of Keith Nester, Scoth Hahn and Stever Ray videos. They were catholic converts. They were protestant pastors, and born to protestant familiy respectively. Please also follow The Journey Home program where most of their guest were protestant pastors that convert to catholicism.
Thank you Allie Beth for recording and posting this very interesting episode. It reflects very well on you to be prepared to enter a dialogue with someone with whom you will have disagreements in some areas anyway. This episode actually demonstrated how much common ground there is between Christians of all types. Well done.
I am gratified over the commonality Of belief between what an evangelical believes and what this Catholic believes. Also so much appreciate The fine interviewer! Very informative 😊
“Who am I , that the Mother of my Lord should come to me ???”
Beautiful!
"Then came to Him His mother and His brothers, and could not come at Him for the press. And it was told Him by certain which said, Your mother and Your brothers stand without, desiring to see You. And He answered and said to them, MY MOTHER AND MY BROTHER ARE THESE WHICH HEAR THE WORD OF AND, AND DO IT"
Luke 8, 19 - 21
[Luk 11:27 ESV] As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, "Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!"
[Luk 11:28 ESV] But he said, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!"
I’m a convert to Catholicism from Protestantism. The fullness, richness, and historical continuity of the Christian faith that Catholicism gives has me never returning to Protestantism.
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???
Just wondering if, as a protestant, you were born again? As a Catholic I didn't know and wasn't taught that I could be saved (by being born from above). For Catholics it's all about receiving their sacraments. That's what they focus on rather than putting trust in Jesus.
@@jeromepopiel388Wrong. You misrepresent Catholic theology as most Protestants do. The Bible doesn’t tell us what being born again is, and Protestants disagree on that as they all hold up the Bible and say that is their authority!!!??? So the Holy Spirit is leading them to conflicting truths???
Watch this video as he goes through scripture to see what born again means.
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@@jeromepopiel388 Maybe you had bad catechesis, but Catholicism teaches that you are born again at your baptism. Receiving that sacrament is being born again. And we put our trust in Jesus and in His sacraments that He instituted to spiritually renew and enliven us.
@@mitchellosmer1293 Jesus rose on the FIRST DAY. His followers gathered on the FIRST DAY for the breaking of the Bread (reference to the Holy Eucharist).
The Rosary is scripture as well. It is primarily a meditation on scripture, on specific mysteries in the life of Jesus Christ. In praying the Rosary, we ask Mary to pray for us to God, who is the true source of grace as we meditate on the life of Jesus Christ.
The Rosary is composed of
- the Our Father, which is the prayer that Jesus taught,
- the Hail Mary, which are the very words of God to Mary (Luke 1:28 and Luke 2 41-42),
- the Glory Be, which is a prayer of praise of the Holy Trinity
In praying the Rosary, we turn to Mary's intercession (she's in Heaven) and trust in the power of merits of the life, passion, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
My mother was brought up Lutheran --- my father was an Irish Catholic ---- i was born in India and my first language at one years old was Hindi --- second language Dutch in hospital in AMSTERDAM on our way home to England, with double L/R mastoidectomy that has left me with inability to hear consonants without lip-reading. COVID masks make my life difficult.
I love languages. The tower of Babel divided human beings, so we need a common language, particularly when English words keep changing their meaning.
As an army widow my mother, a keen but ignorant convert, brought up my sister during WW2 and my sister, 3 years older than I, brought me up. We had no father as he was a surgeon in the RAMC, but she took us to the Tridentine Latin Mass where we learned to pray. She did not teach us the rosary as she did not know it.
I married a soldier and travelled widely. The holy Mass was identical wherever i went ---- in the Borneo jungle, in Malaysia, in Zimbabwe when I stayed with sister, all over Europe, even in Benbecula on honeymoon.
Now i am 91 years old and bed-bound, i have the fifteen mysteries of the rosary, which keep me going in this crazy world --- had the last sacrament twice and holy communion only about once a month. I need my mother. MARY.
I'm grateful she was willing to have this debate with Trent so that we can see the truth of the Catholic church! Palestinian Catholic here.
Beautiful 🫶🫶🙏
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Our prayers are with you!!
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special???
WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???
Book, chapter and verse!!!!
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Where in the bible is said Mary can hear our prayers? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary went to/will go to heaven? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary is a mediator/imtercessor? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary remained a virgin? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary was sinless? Book, chapter and verse
Where in the bible is said Mary is to be worshiped.prayed to? Book, chapter and verse
I KNOW absolutely NO Catholic will reply!!! If one does, every answer will be either out of context, or twisted scripture.
Dear@@mitchellosmer1293, yes, we have all read the Bible. God named the seventh day to be a day of rest. He told us in the 10 Commandments to keep holy the Sabbath Day, and we are told how to do this under the Law of Moses.
But during the time of the Maccabees, the Greeks wiped out a village of observant Judeans on a Sabbath (1 Maccabees 2:25-38). So those who sat in the Seat of Moses, determined that Judeans could defend themselves if attacked on the Sabbath (1 Maccabees 2:39-41.) Jesus refers to this incident in Mark 3:4.
Jesus came to fulfill the law. Not just in a ritualistic way, under the Mosaic Law, but also in the Maccabeen sense of saving Life. And not just on one day a week, but on every day.
I am writing this response as a courtesy to you, to give you a fair chance at understanding how far your understanding of the Sabbath is from that which is taught in the Bible (since you do not have the the books of the Maccabees in your Bible, you would not know this history that everyone in Judea and Galilee knew at the time Jesus walked the earth.)
But I doubt that I will reply to anything you may say to me, since you have already proclaimed that you intend to read what I say in a twisted manner.
Trent Horn helped me come back to the Catholic Church 👍🙏🇻🇦✝️
you went back to paganism
That’s a false accusation that has been debunked for years now. But I’m open to a open dialogue and discussion if you’d like I used to be anti-Catholic too.. Virgin, most powerful pray for us ✝️🙏🇻🇦
What convinced you to return?
@@calebprenger3928that’s an idiotic statement. The CC converted pagans by the millions and created Western Civilization in the Christian context. Protestants weren’t even around
There is much all Christians owe to the CC. If the Church had fallen to the Muslims the faith would not be here. It was by Gods Grace that his Church survived.
For me it was Trent Horn, Scott Hahn, and Jimmy Akin! Love these Amazing Apologists, all converts to the faith from other denominations so their theology is very thorough, well rounded, and their evangelizing is very strong! They are great speakers and authors. I believe many of them cite The Early Church Fathers as a major reason they converted, as well as their complex questions only ever being answered through the traditions of the Catholic Church. For me it was also the Early Church Fathers, but also the deep reverence of Catholic Mass and The Real Presence in the Eucharist, which are not things you can find in other denominations.
Really admire Allie here for having Trent on for a respectful conversation. A really important point that she made was on making sure to describe other people's beliefs on terms they would actually use. Well done, all around!
I'm currently a Protestant in the Philippines, but when I started to watch Trent Horn's videos, that kinda flipped a switch inside me and unfolded a lot of Catholic truths that i was blinded all along as a Protestant. Kudos to trent! And Im planning to be baptized in the Catholic church next month. PRAY FOR ME!
I will remember you in my prayers..the door is wide open to welcome you home.❤
Thank you for this discussion! When I first became Catholic, I tried to be like Trent, but without the training or the gifts the Holy Spirit has gifted him. I just wanted every Christian to know the fulfillment of the Catholic faith. Thank you Lord for all Christians of good will, like Allie, and great apologists like Trent.
Cradle Catholic here who left the faith for many years, became Protestant, and eventually was led back to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church in 2020. My disgust and misunderstanding of Catholicism was largely fueled by influencers like Allie. My continual search for the objective truth and the grace of God to humble me allowed me to investigate both sides with genuine curiosity and an open mind. What I found is that if you go deep enough into history, you cannot continue being Protestant. Catholicism transformed my spiritual walk and relationship with Jesus in ways I cannot even begin to describe. If you know, you know. I pray for the deception to be lifted from all who are in opposition of Christ’s Church, and for their love of the Lord to override their misunderstanding.
Deep into history? Are you kidding me? The Catholic Church history is full of blood. Murdering Protestants for trying to print the Bible, killing those who preach against them ect. The Catholic Church did everything in their power (which was more than what kings had at times) to prevent the Bible from being accessible to all people. Only the smart higher knowledge church people should interpret scripture. Not those poor peasants who will just misunderstand it. Riiiiight.
Bless you
Allie is our sister in Christ
Praying for her conversion as well and God bless you
@@liraco_mx she’s following Christ not the Catholic false church. No need to pray for her.
Why is she not listening to what he is saying ? In a Catholic convert from being a Baptist. And I wish I had converted years ago. Being Catholic has opened up the universe of God to me ! ❤
im convinced theres this weird phenomena that happens to protestants, they can hear the best explanations to their questions but until they themselves question their own beliefs they will not be open to actually understanding those explanations presented. They are too stuck in their hardened beliefs to let it get through to them. if it doesn’t fit their own ideas they don’t accept it. every single convert that was once protestant began conversion after questioning everything they believe. if they don’t leave room for questioning they don’t learn anything.
I love when two Christians discuss issues with kindness and grace and intelligence.
I would love Allie to talk about communion, and the biblical defintion of worship. Christians have only started to beleive that communion is purely symbolic in the last 500 years. I think this is essential doctrine that needs to be spoken on.
Luther & Calvin believed in the Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. I think the change in theology was later for many as sects broke from sects protestants.
@@mark-be9mqthey believed in real presence but not transubstantiation
The 2nd century Christian Church father Tertullian wrote,
"Having taken the bread and given it to His disciples, Jesus made it His own body, by saying, 'This is My body,' that is, the symbol of My body. There could not have been a symbol, however, unless there was first a true body. An empty thing or phantom is incapable of a symbol." (Against Marcion, 4.40)
This is in the context of refuting the Docetic heresy of denying that Jesus had a physical body. But Tertullian clearly wrote that the bread is a symbol of His body. You may not agree, but this debunks the claim that the symbolic view of communion is some new Protestant idea
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Transubstantiation is just the technical explanation of real presence. It does not take Jesus out of the Eucharist which protestants today have done.
Where in scripture does it say communion is purely symbolic?
Trent has the funniest wife on the planet. She’s hilarious and adorable.
She really is hilarious. She is the exception that proves the rule.
She’s so funny! I stumbled on a live that Trent and his wife did with Matt and Cameron Fradd and Trent’s wife had me rolling laughing the whole time😂
And she is beautiful too
She seems so completely opposite to him! When I first saw a video of hers I was really surprised.
Laura is that you?
A very good way of bridging the gap amongst Christians. Good job Allie for orchestrating this. Thanks Trent for your calm demeanor and great insight. Lets continue to pray for Christian unity.
I am a convert to the Catholic Church from being previously a Pentecostal elder. I appreciate Trent very much. He is very intelligent and balanced. However, I wish he would appeal less to intellect and more to the whole person. I became Catholic mostly because of seeing how Jewish the Catholic Church is and that she indeed retained the teachings of the Apostels. Showing such examples is much more a appealing than trying to intellectualize the faith. Bring the jewels 💎 out of our apostolic Church. Paul said: „I did not come with eloquence or wisdom …“ (1 Cor 2,1) … help our Protestant friends to seek the perl in the ground and bring them home thus 😃🙏🥰
Thank you for having Trent on the show. I pray at the end for UNITY of all Christians
Unfortunately the RCC has a false gospel so there will never be unity as they are not christians.
Unity ONLY if it is Unity in the Truth. Any other unity is demonic.
It can if all seek truth. Trent didn't bring up a lot of misunderstandings, truths, and scripture I think because he didn't want to argue. You can see it in his face he was trying to get to the roots of her conviction. But it was more than one. It would take a much longer conversation.
God will answer that prayer 🙏🏻
There can be no true unity with Catholics as they have a false gospel.
Catholic here. Allie, I’ve been following you since I read your book “You are not enough and that’s ok.” I admire you having Trent and clarifying misconceptions about us. Thank you for being objective and a real seeker of truth.
Thanks for having on Trent Horn. He's awesome.
“Behold, here is your mother…”
I’m not Catholic but I see that Mary could be my intercessor. Jesus is the new Adam and Mary is the new Eve. Clearly that’s a Catholic teaching but it resonates with me.
You’re not Catholic? Surprised by that because your understanding is far beyond any Protestant that I know!
@@brianh2477 No, I'm not Catholic, but it makes sense to me. I feel like it's the truth and I embrace it, especially because it's not something I was taught and just accepted, but something I feel inherently.
@@ChristinaTodd1970 That’s wonderful and thanks be to God that He has given you that grace to understand. If you are already there mentally, then what is stopping you from becoming Catholic then?
I am a Protestant convert to Catholicism. In 4 years since my confirmation, my prayer life has drastically changed and the rosary has completely transformed my life. I used to be confused about Mary too but God will show you this mystery if you ask, seek and knock. ❤
Amazing!!! Welcome home ❤❤
@@elizabethj6534 jesus was born from a miracle, although mary birthed him, hes not the mother of jesus john 3;16
@@donhue4546 You just spoke heresy here by claiming that Jesus' natures are two separate parts. Mary is the mother of God because Jesus is fully God and fully human, not part God and part human. He cannot be one without the other, as in His divine nature cannot be separated from His human nature. Making claims that Mary is the mother of Jesus the human but not Jesus the Son of God is claiming that His natures are separate and leads into other heresies such as adoptionism, the heretical belief that Jesus was adopted as the Son of God at His Baptism rather than being God in human form from the moment of His 'conception'. Mary is the mother of God because Jesus is fully God and Mary gave birth to God's human life which cannot be separated from His divine nature. When we call Mary the 'Mother of God' we do not claim that she gave birth to the Trinitarian God, but that she gave birth to God who became flesh.
@@GamingxKnight listen dhimmi jesus was a human, hes the son of man on earth, go read the bible, your as dhim as a muslima
@@GamingxKnight show me the verse where jesus said mary was his mother???
I reverted back to the Catholic Church almost 20 years ago. After 10 years of doing the worldly thing, I had embraced Protestantism (didn’t understand why the Catholic Church was special-poorly catechized in the 80’s). Mary had become a hurdle due to all the anti-Marian beliefs I soaked up there and my own issues with female authority figures in my life. But our Lady of Fatima helped bring me back and, though it has taken patience, persistence and care on her part , I’ve consecrated my life and my children to Our Blessed Mother. My husband and I regularly pray the Rosary together, too. 🙏🏽
Дорогой брат. Мария была мне препятствием в католической церкви более 10 лет. Наконец, шаг за шагом, я обрела понимание, как она приближает нас к Сыну Иисусу, и теперь тоже глубоко молюсь Розарием ❤ и рада этому оружию, и сама зову Марию на помощь в следовании за Христом. Протестант из детства)
Catholic revert here, too. I have come to the conclusion that the "reforms" forced upon the Catholic faithful in the 1970s, all done "In the Spirit of Vatican II" (rather than actually being in accord with the written documents of Vatican II) was in fulfillment of Jesus Christ granting Satan 100 years to destroy the Catholic Church. Read about the auditory experience that Pope Leo XIII had.
@@RobertCairo yes, I’m familiar with it and with the St Michael prayer that he composed after this experience. I pray it after every mass (along with the other parishioners at my church). Some in the Church took advantage of Vatican II to usher in reforms that were detrimental, I agree. I grew up as all these reforms were being enacted, so I was very ignorant of my faith, since formation was not a priority in those years. Now I’m so grateful for the treasure I didn’t know I had.
@@svetlanay7124 Моя дочь, которая говорит по-русски, перевела мне это. Мария, помощь христиан, молитесь за нас 💙
@aliiebethstuckey, you did a great job of explaining your (and most protestant) concerns about Catholic doctrine, while still being respectful to what we believe.
I enjoy the conversation. Thank you Allie this and also Trent for this great talk and showing that Catholics and Protestants need to have more dialogues in order to become one. May God bless both of you
Trent horns book had me turn from an anti-Catholic to a devout Catholic that loves the church
Which of his books? He has written several
Catholic convert since this past Easter!!! God bless you all and thanks be to God!
Bless you
Welcome home! I hope your journey is as joyful as mine in the Holy Catholic Church. God bless you & your loved ones, and everyone on this channel.
May they all discover Catholic authority, history, the Church Fathers, and devotion to Jesus Our Lord and King, through His beloved, Blessed Mother Mary.
I thank God for my Catholic faith and pray that all who seek Christ come to the Catholic Church. I pray that a Protestant who wants to come to Catholicism doesn’t allow culture to hold them back from embracing the fullness of the Truth.
God bless Trent Horn!🇻🇦✝️
Allie I am a cradle Catholic. We Filipinos do not realize how blessed our country is. Many of us yes go to mass, receive communion, serve in church but sad many do not full understand and cherish our faith. I for one was born in 1960 (do not laugh) but only learned my faith and appreciated being Catholic in 1992, at the age of 31 when I got trained and served as a catechist, a Catholic teacher. I love Trent, Fr. Chris Alar, Jimmy Akin, Roy Schoeman, etc. I love EWTN. Godbless you and your family. Thanks for this
I'm not Catholic at all..... but..... some years ago I was in a secular choir rehearsal and we were singing a version of Ave Maria by the composer, Duruffle.... To my very great surprise I had this sudden and completely unexpected sense of something immensely feminine, humble, gentle, but also immensely powerful. I hesitate to say a "presence" but more an "awareness of an essence or quality" I began weeping and couldn't continue singing any more for a while. My occupation is a civic celebrant, conducting funerals for folk outside of any church affiliation. A few weeks after this surprise experience at the choir rehearsal, someone requested that I say a Hail Mary at a service, as the person had a Catholic background. I was hesitant, being a good baptist boy, but in the end went ahead with it. I was greatly surprised at how wonderful it felt to speak out those words even though I couldn't really understand why and it still felt a bit forbidden. Amazingly, just a few weeks later, somebody else asked me to do exactly the same thing, and so I obliged.... Fast forward a few years and I finally reached the end of the road with the baptist church, for a number of different reasons, even though they were a great bunch of people, and converted to Holy Orthodoxy, so - of course - I now have a completely different perception of and approach to the Mother of God, the Theotokos. I'll finish with the Orthodox version of the Hail Mary, a bit different to the Catholic one: "O Theotokos and Virgin, rejoice, O Mary, full of grace; the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the Fruit of thy womb; for thou hast borne the Saviour of our souls. I offer this all simply as a description of experiences that I have had that have changed my life, not as "proof" of anything at all.
The Ave Maria is a direct quote from the Gospel of Luke with a prayer of petition for sinners at the end.
Thank you for sharing. That was beautiful.
❤🎉beautiful testimony
@jfgskaintayo8167 just like when our lady of the pillar appears in Zaragoza when he needed her.
Wowwww why Eastern Cristian orthodox catholic and not a Eastern catholic Orthodox. Both practice catholicism, but one is schismatic and the other not.
Cradle Catholic here, utterly besotted with all the glorious comments here, people embracing & having a better understanding of the Catholic faith.
My two cents: if you were a nominal Christian & you found an interest in the Catholic church & became a better Christian...hallelujah! Buzzing for that.
If you were a nominal Catholic & later picked an interest in Protestanism & you a better Christian now...i am all for that as well. The aim is to be better Christians - that is how i see it.
Loved! The discuss
Love from Nigeria.
I admire this lady but I admired most Mother Mary as She is the special creation of the Father to let His Son, Jesus, became man to save us. Mary's role in our salvation is designed by God, but firstly, Mary responded it with great faith and obedience. Hence, Mary is our great model to follow God's will and plan for humankind. God, the Father, lifted Mary to a place above all even for angels. It is fitting therefore to ask the intercession of Mary.