Leaving Mormonism for Christianity | Guest: Lynn Wilder | Ep 725
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- Today we’re joined by Lynn Wilder, author of Unveiling Grace: The Story of How We Found Our Way out of the Mormon Church and host of the “Unveiling Grace” podcast, who is sharing her story of finding Christ and leaving the Mormon church. We discuss her introductions to the Mormon church and what led her to not just join, but become deeply involved in Mormon community. We look at some general Mormon doctrine, such as what Mormons believe about the Bible and God’s unchanging nature. Lynn shares the instances that led to the breaking down of her Mormon faith, from teaching at BYU to hearing her son’s salvation story. We discuss Mormon influence over Christian homeschool curricula and media and some questions we should ask about this. Then, Lynn shares the gospel that changed her life.
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(00:00) Intro
(01:05) Interview with Lynn begins
(02:30) Upbringing and joining the LDS church
(12:45) Mormon doctrine / theology
(23:17) Reasons for leaving
(33:07) Lynn's son is saved
(40:57) John 1
(50:00) Mormons in culture
(01:00:34) Deflection / "milk before meat"
(01:05:58) The gospel
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Leaving Mormonism for Christianity | Guest: Lynn Wilder | Ep 725
I'm a Mormon watching this and I am so confused and struggling so much. I just want the truth. I desperately do not want God to say "depart from me, I know you not." That's my motivation on my faith journey. Please pray for me. I need God and Christ. I need to know the truth. My salvation depends on it.
I pray that you find the truth! The truth of the infinite, almighty God, the first and last. Don’t lean on your feelings, lean on the word. Like mentioned in the interview, begin with reading the New Testament all the way through without putting LDS goggles on before you do. May the Lord bless you on this journey ❤️
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Truth is a Person Kenzie....not a doctrine.
@@angelikastefoglo2478 why do Protestants always seem to ignore the Old Testament?
Glad to talk anytime. Ask Him to show you Truth (Jesus called himself Truth). He alone is the answer and you learn about him through the Bible. It will open your eyes and bring you to new life. Be hopeful.
I left Mormonism last year. I’ve lived in Utah most of my life. The last 10 years I was miserable, lonely, anxious and was suicidal. July 2023, I dropped to my knees and asked God to help me… that was the day I was finally going to take my life. BUT GOD. Now I’m living in the South, God moved my family away. Im born again. All the glory be to Him that saves. Thank you Jesus.
🎉❤
Awesome 🤩
The Lord is going to use you and your testimony in mighty ways you can't even imagine. Be ready for His power and love to continue to work through you. Praise Him.
Be well and be at peace
Halleluiah. Praise God.
praise God
Please have Lynn Wilder back on your podcast! ❤️ I'm an ex-mormon who grew up in the church and found Christianity at 20. My entire family is Mormon and her story is very inspirational.
Please don't go to the Wilders. They are incredibly biased, throw in half truths and sometimes outright lies, and could very likely diminish your light, The very light you need to find what is best for YOU personally.
Former Mormon here. Thanks Lynn and Allie! I left ‘the church’ 40 years ago. Didn’t like it anymore even though it was my family’s religion from the beginning. I wanted to know the Bible and for years kept getting this prompting to learn the Bible. 20 years ago I started attending a Bible Study at a local Christian church and have been changed, made new, reborn, since then. I pray for the Mormon people every day of my new birth in Christ Jesus. God is good. His will be done.
I had some doubts about my faith in Mormonism growing up. The things we did and going to the temple to do baptisms for the dead. I personally always felt unworthy and could never please God. Also asked to do things I didn’t want to do. I relied only on my feelings about the Book of Mormon. Of course I felt good about it. But there was always a void. I stopped going to church for a while and at age 35 I was trying to go back to the ward in my area. I wanted God but God had other plans. I started to hear the word of God and started reading the Bible. I decide not to pursue going back to the Mormon church and focus on my relationship with God in my home. God met me not in a church but at home. I started encountering him daily. He started transforming me. I knew I was saved by his grace and that Jesus fulfilled everything for me. What a relief!!!
Corrupt church leader's and councils manipulate your families through brainwashing tactics. The Patriarch is the rightful preacher and your church is at home ❤ ALL CHURCHES ARE WRONG ALLIE ❤
This is the absolute opposite of what God wants us to experience. We should never feel like we have to always please Him or He will hate us. The Wilders definitely share this message and it's false. I'm LDS and feel such light and peace in my life when I steer clear of messages that are meant to create doubt and cast aspersions. The most important thing that we can do is to pursue things that will help us to uphold good values, build our inner light and build our inner happiness.
@@rugby4lifenone615 I’m a born again Christian and baptized by the Holy Spirit. I thank Jesus Christ the one true living God for dying on the cross for my sins. I’m covered by his blood. I’m saved by faith not by works that the Bible says is filthy rags. I have freedom in Christ Jesus and I’m lead by his spirit. I’m living in the will of God which lets him work through me.
@@C-BOYZ So happy for you and this is excellent. Faith in Jesus Christ does save us no doubt. Works do not save anyone most definitely. But works do make this world a better place (something God wants so very much) and works do bind us to Jesus Christ. Words alone don't have the power to build commitment to Jesus Christ.
I was raised mormon. I remember the pressure of performance as a young child. My mother was raised as an evangelical Christian whose parents moved to Utah and she then met my Dad who is many generations mormon and he converted her to the LDS church. She even works at BYU now. I see the terrible pressure she is in to promote herself. My grandparents watched her turn from her Christian faith and mourned the loss of their daughter. I was about 18 when I left mormonism to follow a life of drugs, alcohol, and even went down the homosexual/new age rabbit hole. I got pregnant with my then boyfriend (now husband) when Jehovah's Witnesses knocked on my door. Their message felt so familiar to me but in an even more powerful way. I thought it must be the truth because this religion teaches world wide unity and rejects worldliness and anything that is "pagan". I was a zealous Jehovah Witness for 8 years. It wasn't until I started listening to CZcams influencers like Allie and Mike Winger and Aplogia Studios when I heard the voice of Jesus tell me "I AM" (which just blew open the Trinity to me). I surrendered in that moment and just wept on my knees. The pressure and anxiety of performance was over. Jesus said "It is finished" and meant it!! I was baptized this last summer and am teaching my wonderful children about the beautiful grace filled gospel and the true God of the Bible. Pray for my family because they are all still suffering in mormonism or new age beliefs. 🙏
Thank you for your testimony. What a journey you’ve gone through. Jesus never left his hand on you. To me, it just make so much sense that a perfect god would not count our salvation based on our performance but rather reward us appropriately for our performances. Because nothing we do will match his standard. We can’t unconditionally bare the burden of other’s sin and struggle like Christ.
Our stories are so similar! Mike Winger and Apologia were huge influences in helping my husband and I get out as well. I pray God blesses their ministries because they are reaching so many hurting Mormon hearts.
To survive both LDS and Jehova’s witness is no small accomplishment. Glad you returned to Christianity like your grandparents
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Your testimony brought me chills. God is so good, and I thank you for reminding me of the sweetness of His saving grace. I've been greatly blessed by those CZcamsrs as well, and I just have to recommend Melissa Dougherty to you because she was also in the new age before being confronted with JWs who inspired her to look into what Christianity really is about. She has a wonderful online ministry now and I feel like her channel will be a blessing to you!
What a powerful testimony. My childhood best friend was a Mormon. She was like my sister, they are very good people. It bothered me even as we were children to think about the things that they hold to be true and the injustice. And was that she was not given the truth. I tried to share with her.
Judge not lest ye be judged. There is no place in the Bible that explicitly says Mormons are not Christian and they are going to hell without needing extrapolation, inference, interpretation or opinion. That said, the most important thing in this life is that we build good relationships, pursue a path that will help us to uphold good values, build our inner light and to build our inner happiness. If those things are met, whatever path we choose the Lord will take care of us.
This will be long, but I want to share it. I was born into the Mormon Church. Served a mission, got married in the temple, my husband blessed our kids into it. Starting in 2019 at the age of 29, I had a series of strange dreams with meanings that didn't seem obvious to me. They included seeing church buildings on fire and trying to escape with my kids, swimming in water with sharks at a church event, but seeing a cross in the distance and being told to run to it. And other strange things. I felt like God was trying to tell me something, but I couldn't understand it because I loved the church and truly believed in it. I believed it was a good thing for myself and my family. Fast forward to about a year ago, and I was serving as a primary president in my ward when I watched this video. It was triggering. Many of your videos were triggering. They made me uncomfortable. Steve Deace's videos affected me the same way at the same time. But as I watched and listened, those dreams began to be illuminated to my mind. I started to understand what I was being warned of in them. I cried to God, telling Him that this was a confusing and hard thing for me and I wanted to know what to do. That night, I had another dream. I was a mormon missionary swimming through a high flood with my companion when I was suddenly bit by something I couldn't see in the water. My companion told me it was one of the invisible sharks, and it had taken a chunk out of my arm. I showed the mission president, other missionaries, and none of them seemed concerned. I was in so much pain and wanted help. No one would help me. The mission president's wife said "You were bit by necromancy. That will never stop hurting you." I cried out "My right arm offends me! I have to cut it off!" Then I woke up. I instantly remembered the dream about swimming with sharks at church and realized what it meant. I understood that all the work I did in the temple, all the mormon doctrine I believed, was rooted in this belief in necromancy. I had been attempting to engage in this relationship with dead people in order to save them, and that was not only offensive to God, but harmful to myself! My eyes have been opened to all of the other offensive and harmful doctrine of the LDS church, and I have left for Christianity. So all of this long post to say.. thank you! You and Steve Deace were instruments in God's call to get me out of this false and dangerous belief system. I can't thank you enough. Praise God!
Did your husband and children also leave the church or are they yet to come out of it? What an amazing testimony! God often speaks through dreams this way!
@@HansenMoments My children attend with me each week, and they love it. They are both still little. We're really learning together. My husband has stopped attending the Mormon Church. He was never very invested in Mormonism to begin with. Now he attends with me at our local evangelical church most of the time. He says he believes that Jesus is God, and he asks questions sometimes. But he's not quite at the point of giving Himself to Jesus yet. I'm hopeful that God will continue to work on his heart, and am trying my best to put my faith in God for that. I'm very blessed that at the very least, my husband is supportive and happy for me.
Praise God that He is always there for us when we call to Him! I pray that the Word of God is a lamp to your feet and a light to your path as you walk hand in hand with Jesus. He created you in your mothers womb and knows your heart. ❤
Praise God he saved us both out of mormonism! I have told so many people that I was zealously engaged in necromancy but a lot of people don't believe me, even other ex mormons. I think they don't want to realize how bad it is. Thank you for speaking truth and sharing your experience!
Praise God 🙌
A personal relationship with the God of the Bible thru Jesus is the most liberating, freeing life walk, bringing peace and joy to my life that is incredible. Thank you for telling this personal story for others to learn from. 🙏
I am Lds and we do an rigorous study of the Bible. We are encouraged to study it and not only that, but to know the history behind all of it's writings. We are theists. Meaning, we read all of the words of the Bible and search for that truth. We don't cherry pick verses. We don't sit and listen to a pastor talk each Sunday. (Our church is volunteer based religion) We learn for ourselves. We make connections. Take this verse for instance.
"Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?"
1 Corinthians 15:29 NKJV
The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints answers this question and many others.
@ctcsadboc22 Not cherry-picking verses? I am glad you picked this 1 Corinthians 15 verse because it's good for deeper context, to quote the two verses above it:
For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.” (Of course, when it says “all things are under his authority,” that does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.)
Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God’s authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere.
1 Corinthians 15:27-28 NLT
God's authority, who gave His son Jesus Christ authority over all things everywhere.
So in other words, Joseph Smith doesn't have authority, the book of Mormon doesn't have authority, people over your wards don't have authority and neither do those men who claim to be prophets (that are false).
Anyone who claims to have the will of God in their lives will not have teachings and doctrines that go against the God in Jesus Christ's authority.
Be well and be at peace.
The Mormon "bible" is not the same as the KJV Holy Bible. Joseph Smith "cherry-picked" and changed, twisted/deleted/added... MANY words and verses in prophecy and scripture! If you were to get a REAL Bible and compare it to your Mormon "bible," you would see that Joseph Smith plagiarized the REAL Bible(and some literary works) when putting together the Book of Mormon, the Mormon "bible," AND The Pearl of Great Price, AND the Doctrines and Covenants. It's all FICTION made up by Joseph Smith. I encourage you to go watch a YT video at Expedition Bible and watch a Christian and devout Mormon comparing/debating the ACTUAL ancient Holy Scriptures using Joseph Smith's "bible," ancient manuscripts and the Dead Sea Scrolls. It proves that Joseph Smith was a false prophet. Many of his prophecies NEVER came true(which defines a FALSE PROPHET). Hopefully, you will SEE...hopefully, God will open your eyes to the truth. Mormonism is just NOT TRUE. Jesus is NOT the brother of Lucifer/Satan. God was NOT "just a man," there is NO BAPTISM for the dead, there are no secret names, underwear, rituals, etc., etc. in TRUE Christian faith and salvation by faith in Christ ALONE.@@ctcsadboc22
Amen to this. I also wrote a Christian/Biblical response to this person. @@dz7a756
Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever. Very encouraging and comforting!
Corrupt church leader's and councils manipulate your families through brainwashing tactics. The Patriarch is the rightful preacher and your church is at home ❤ ALL CHURCHES ARE WRONG ALLIE ❤
Ex Mormon of three years, never looked back!! Thank you for telling the truth, so many people need to hear this.
Praise God! I'm going on 2 years of leaving a Mormonism
@@laracroftismyhomegirl Are you going to call Lynn out for Lying in this video? Would Jesus Christ do that?
@@clearstonewindowsWould Jesus Christ charge people 10% of their income, require a worthiness interview, and sit at the temple doors checking for valid temple recommends?
@@Elizabeth-rk3do Happy to answer when you respond to my question about Lynn lying.
Since you've posted on a few of my comments maybe we should do a zoom so you can get your point across more clearly, or have your premisses challenged.
Corrupt church leader's and councils manipulate your families through brainwashing tactics. The Patriarch is the rightful preacher and your church is at home ❤ ALL CHURCHES ARE WRONG ALLIE ❤
I’ve been following Mrs. Wilder and Micah for years!!! They are incredible and I’m so grateful for all the good they have done for the Lord!!! Loved this!! Bless you both!! ❤️🙌💐
Coming unto Christ takes work, faith, Hope, and the love of the Savior! Mormon is a nickname for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! Leaving the covenants there are no promises and protection! Returning to the Covenant path ensures the Blessing and protection of the Covenants! Seek to know for yourself the covenant path! learn of the blessing of the covenants!
Corrupt church leader's and councils manipulate your families through brainwashing tactics. The Patriarch is the rightful preacher and your church is at home ❤ ALL CHURCHES ARE WRONG ALLIE ❤
I am a Christian, part an Orthodox Presbyterian Church, grew up Baptist, and always struggle with performance based works- that I am only pleasing to God if I am doing “right” and “good” things- I find this conversation very helpful to me and encouraging to embrace Christ’s completed work on my behalf.
Unfortunately, the LDS church's belief on works is poorly represented in this video. The LDS church doesn't believe any amount of works will save anyone. I just want to be really clear about that. The LDS church doesn't believe you can simply bypass the Messiah and ignore His sacrifice by doing good things. He is the only way to salvation and is the gate through which we enter. To put this in context, the reason this error about LDS belief is so pervasive is other Christian churches had a big problem back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's because the LDS membership was known as being strange but extremely devout. As in, the LDS were literally known for trying really hard to be Christian. To counter that belief, Evangelical's in particular came up with this idea that the LDS religion worships another Jesus and doesn't believe he is necessary for salvation. After more than 50 years of preaching that to their congregations there are a disappointing number of Christians who believe it because they trust their pastors. So much so that a growing number of Christians are actually scared to even associate with LDS members. Anyway, don't take the information in this video too seriously. Hopefully, it's well-intentioned but you'd be better off going to the LDS website if you want to know what they teach.
From the LDS website, "Mormons believe that all men and women ever to be born, including Jesus Christ, lived with God as His spirit children before this life. God wanted each of us to come to earth to gain experience, learn, and grow to become more like Him. But God also knew that His children would all sin, die, and fall short of His glory. We would need a Savior to overcome our sins and imperfections and reconcile us with God. Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was chosen to be this Savior long ago during our premortal life with God." This, along with so many other Mormon beliefs, clearly demonstrates that Mormons worship a different Jesus than the Jesus of Christianity.
@@WinningThisOne2 Nephi 25:23 says otherwise, and many Mormons believe this to be true.
God used Andrew Farley to really help me see the gospel more clearly when I was knee deep in my performance based works
@@WinningThisOne Answer this. Do you believe God and Jesus are one? No. Thats the # 1 problem. Gods word says God and Jesus are 2 in 1. You cant reach God without going thru Jesus 1st. He is the way, truth and life.
I’m an LDS youth, I came back to the church and I’m currently my young Women’s president, I feel like I am in a huge season of growth, lately I have really been struggling, I was driving one day and it just hit me like a bus to turn on a song a Christian song I haven’t listened to in a really long time and something I feel like changed to me and now I’m back on this journey of figuring out what to believe it’s so confusing and stressful especially considering my past and I just want to know the full truth and have my questions answered. I love this video! It wasn’t hateful, it wasn’t trashing the church and it wasn’t meant to Fear- Bate like a LOT of videos do. I love this and thank you guys for it.
I would recommend just start to read the new testament and see who Jesus really is and what he's done for us ❤
I’ve been in your position several times, I get the struggle! It’s no fun. :(. What I will say, is that every single time I was in that doubtful, confused place (which I know Satan was trying to keep me there), God ALWAYS brought about a “divine intervention” (where I knew it was HIM, not a coincidence) to remind me that He had seen me struggling with doubt and questions; those personal experiences are what truly solidified my faith. ❤. Pray that God will reveal Himself to you, it may not happen immediately, but He WILL. He longs to bring us back to where we need to be. ❤. I am finally on firm ground, and whenever my faith starts wavering, I remember those specific personal spiritual experiences with God. Just take all your doubts, questions, and confusion to Him. He understands that we have human minds, and that Satan stops at nothing to confuse us! God WILL bring clarity. And also, of course reading the Bible….and, one of my all time favorite (famous) pastors are Charles Stanley, and David Jeremiah. Their messages are so easy to understand, because they speak it like it is….and straight from the word of God. Also, find out what your local Christian radio stations are….there are lots of amazing pastors speaking throughout the day (great music as well). Praying you get the clarity you are seeking. 🙏💛
Great advice, Brandi
The Bible says that it’s not by works, but it’s by faith that we are saved. Also, Jesus said that there are no husbands or wives in Heaven. There is only one heaven (one new earth), it’s called the New Jerusalem and Jesus will be the light to that earth, where all those that believe and confess with their mouths will be in. There no other heavens. The uttermost important commandment is to love God, but if you don’t know who God really is, idk how you will accomplish this commandment. How can you have faith if you don’t know the true Jesus? Thus, pick up a Bible and read it with fresh eyes. Men will not become gods of their own earth, there will be no husband or wives in heaven, there will be no sex in Heaven.
Corrupt church leader's and councils manipulate your families through brainwashing tactics. The Patriarch is the rightful preacher and your church is at home ❤ ALL CHURCHES ARE WRONG ALLIE ❤
Wow. This message had the power and presence of the Holy Spirit all over it. I wept as she proclaimed the Good News of Jesus-it just never gets old! I’ve been a Christian a long time and I never tire of hearing God’s Truth and His beautiful ways! I love being reminded of why I chose to follow Jesus. We follow THE wonderful God who we can trust ❤ Once you encounter Him, you never want to go back to anything else.
czcams.com/video/NvMk-TGmqnI/video.html Yes we are Christians! it does matter that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is called by his name!
That was the devil 😈
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Corrupt church leader's and councils manipulate your families through brainwashing tactics. The Patriarch is the rightful preacher and your church is at home ❤ ALL CHURCHES ARE WRONG ALLIE ❤
I was raised JW. I've been out since I was 15 and got out just before I was baptized. I'm now born again. My Dad is still an elder, all I can do is pray.
Here are some sculptures that may help.
(Matt. 24:14) We are in the year 2023 and the gospel still hasn't been preach in all the world. So no to the year 1914.
(John 1:9) Charles Russell prophesied that Jesus would come in 1914, did not happen so he changed his prophesy to just his presence, but Jesus's presence never left.
(Jude 1:14) ( 1 Thes. 3:13) Jesus when comes in won't be alone but will be with his Saints.
JW and mormons are not the same nor even similar
Im also an ex-Jehovah’s Witness. I was baptized and a pioneer. All of my family who were in the Jehovah’s Witnesses, including myself, are all born-again Christians now. I know it can be so so tough while in the waiting, but God can do the impossible! Keep praying ❤
Praying with you ❤
@@brianprince1649
Russell didn’t “prophesy” 1914. It was strived through Bible chronology. Many many Christian’s did this through the Ages. Luther did it and yet no one says anything.
Oh my goodness! When she told the story about her son Micah, I knew exactly who is because I saw his testimony on tik tok! Wow! How beautiful. Full circle!
So happy you find the grace of salvation through Jesus Christ! Still many out there are blinded by false teachings. Praying that God will open their eyes and hearts to find the true Gospel of Jesus Christ ❤️ God bless you
I’ve been working with a super kind Mormon lady and I want to be able to talk to her and I sent this video to her. I’ve not heard back yet and it’s been a few hours. Right this minute I started watching a younger man maybe mid 30s talking about his experience leaving Mormonism. Coincidentally it is Lynn’s son Micah. He’s very well spoken and able to explain things in a whole different way and thought process than his mom. So great so see the joy in this man’s heart. I pray my friend watches this and knows people are praying for her eyes to be opened.
Judge not lest ye be judged. There is no place in the Bible that explicitly says Mormons are not Christian and they are going to hell without needing extrapolation, inference, interpretation or opinion. That said, the most important thing in this life is that we build good relationships, pursue a path that will help us to uphold good values, build our inner light and to build our inner happiness. If those things are met, whatever path we choose the Lord will take care of us.
I always love seeing Lynn Wilder interview. I was raised Mormon and God opened up my eyes in 2020 and allowed my proverbial boat to rock. I am now, praise God, out of the boat and built on the rock of Jesus!
Oh Amen!
As a member of the LDS faith, I am blown away at the idea that our faith and testimony would be built on anything else other than our Savior.
K8Jones: Joseph Smith. That is who it is built in and his teachings have changed since. That is a prob lem.
@Mk Tay BUT ITS NOT! AT ALL. Yes we believe Joseph Smith RESTORED Christ's church, but the cornerstone of our Religion IS Jesus Christ.
This is what I am talking about! Allie! Get an actual MEMBER OF THE CHURCH TO SPEAK WITH YOU ON YOUR PODCAST INSTEAD OF SMEARING THE CHURCH BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT IT!
Would you recommend sharing this with a Morman family? Would they unfriendly me or just not watch. I lived in Utah for 3.5 years and am still friends with some people I met there. This family didn't try to convert me so we got along but I worry for their eternity.
Such a wonderful episode. I am an ex Mormon that turned to witchcraft. But God still chose me and I’m getting baptized this Easter. 🕊️🙏🏼🥹❤️🔥✝️ praise be to God. He still lives.
Happy to hear you are changing your life toward Christ. But I have to add that Lynn Wilder is spreading misinformation.
Corrupt church leader's and councils manipulate your families through brainwashing tactics. The Patriarch is the rightful preacher and your church is at home ❤ ALL CHURCHES ARE WRONG ALLIE ❤
Praise God!
@@chewy910 Yes. The Wilders are spreading misinformation. I spoke to Matt Wilder personally and he said some things that were out right false and I told him. I'd be weary listening to the Wilders.
Your guest son Micah has his beautiful testimony on CZcams.
Such a blessing to hear his mother giving her testimony after listening several times Micah’s video several years ago.
I got several Mormon friends and after hearing her and son’s testimony I got and read her book. I’m
Watching videos on evangelizing to my Mormon friends and local missionaries we know.
Please be weary of the Wilders. They engage in half truths and sometimes outright lies. Their entire message is meant to remove personal responsibility in truly developing a relationship with Jesus Christ. I will not put my trust in the Wilders.
Judge not lest ye be judged. There is no place in the Bible that explicitly says Mormons are not Christian and they are going to hell without needing extrapolation, inference, interpretation or opinion. That said, the most important thing in this life is that we build good relationships, pursue a path that will help us to uphold good values, build our inner light and to build our inner happiness. If those things are met, whatever path we choose the Lord will take care of us.
Loved the interview, so powerful! I agree from my own personal experience only true Christianity, the grace gospel and what Jesus did for us is a way for our salvation. I had a near death experience and God talked through me, told me to read the Bible. God is so great 🤍
I could not possibly be more excited for this episode! I was born and raised LDS and I was absolutely DEVOUT. In June of 2021, Lynn's son, Micah, was the spark that started a wildfire of study and prayer in my home, all directed at finding the truth of Jesus' biblical gospel. I left the Mormon church and my husband followed a year later. We PRAISE GOD that He brought us out while our children are still small so that we can raise them up in the way they should go.
If anyone's willing, we would joyously welcome prayers for our family who haven't yet accepted the biblical gospel of salvation by grace alone through faith alone. ❤️
(Side note, be sure you read both Unveiling Grace AND Passport to Heaven! They enrich each other beautifully.)
EDIT: I reached Lynn's testimony at the end and it made me feel like grinning and crying and punching the air and shouting "YES! HE IS SO GOOD!!!" all at the same time. What a beautiful gospel. His love wrecks me over and over and over again.
Love this. God bless you and your family! Praying for you 🙏🏻
How did you know Lynn’s son Micah?
@@cappylover192I don't know him personally. I was watching a video by a Mormon apologist and stumbled upon a video of Micah talking about his new book on Melissa Dougherty's channel. (Well, not "stumbled upon," it was definitely providence.) I did meet him once at an Adam's Road performance and felt incredibly blessed to be able to thank the guy that God used as a catalyst to change absolutely everything.
My family and I will be praying for your family tonight. And for so many others who have been deceived and are following false teachers. As a Christian our hearts should break for these people, and my prayers are often that God would change my heart to see others how He sees them so that I can love them better.
Thanks be to God ❤
This episode is very educational and important! Thank you to Lynn for sharing her story and knowledge!
Definitely not educational - I would recommend looking elsewhere for information on “Mormons” - as a Mormon I listened to this and was blown away by the amount of misinformation and false claims. Do what you want though and best of luck.
This was an incredible episode. I learned so much, and felt compelled to share the Gospel of Jesus even more.
I was so excited when I saw Lynn was on this episode! Thank you!!! My husband was saved out of mormonism and I was saved out of false conversion in hyper charismatic churches. Lynn's ministry and her son Micah's ministry continue to be a huge blessing!
what a treasure this lady is, God use her to win many, I pray for Glen Beck, not sure what he believes, I think he’s still part of the mormon church, I think from some of his interviews he is open, he needs to talk to this lady
You’re right. She truly is a treasure
I was raised Catholic then at the age of 6, my parents converted toJehovah's Witnesses. I left when I was 22 (was disfellowshipped) then returned at 24, left 6 months later (ended up disfellowshipped again- I really didn't know any other way to get out than make a mistake), completely confused and my spirit was telling me this wasn't the truth. Happy to say 11 years later, Jesus (God) lead me back to him. I was saved on 10/31/22 along with my husband. It's so incredible that I was never taught to believe that we are saved by grace, it was all by works... even then "probably you might get saved", it was never enough... it was very hard to walk away and lose everyone I ever knew but, it was the right thing looking back. I hope anyone reading this that is in a religious group teaching doctrines that are contrary to the gospel to please pray for the truth to come into your heart. I pray for those that are still in there that are good hearted people... they are very mislead.
Wonderful testimony, thank you!
Awesome! Praise God!!
Wow, what an amazing testimony! Surely God will use you to help open the eyes of those who are blinded by these false religions. I can tell you have a heart for them, and you have an amazing perspective that not many people have.
We're created in God image (elohim) elite of him.. Every day is a blessing because we were salvaged into synthetic existence. They now train and program people using system of God to bring us from dark wilderness into the light of civilization tower. This is mankind to (Hue) human kind artificial creation butterfly effect. Sound Echo and light reflection.
Although we now live in civilization tower, many still exist in the cryptic dark basement hoping to one day be touch by the light of God on the top floor.
Welcome back ☺️
How does this play out at the Blaze? I am curious about Glen Beck's reaction to this episode and if Allie has had any conversations about faith with him.....
Glenn needs to have a talk with Allie. This is bullshit.
Seriously, quite bizarre.
She thinks her mythology is better than any other 😤
@@Gary-fq8cx because it is better and it is true. 😅
Great interview with dear Lynn Wilder!
Leaving Joseph Smith’s teachings behind to come into a personal relationship with the biblical Jesus Christ was not an easy process, but He has completely transformed me and made me alive in Him!
Amen. God bless you and keep you.
@@WCove99 Thank you, and you also!❤️✝️
@@FromJosephtoJesus You're welcome and thanks.
@@WCove99 If you are interested, I have a YT channel where I compare Mormonism and Biblical Christianity.
@@FromJosephtoJesus Yes. Is it under the same name?
I would appreciate a similar video discussing Jehovah’s Witnesses. I grew up in that church and my parents still belong to it, but I left when I was about 25 years old.
Melissa Dougherty might have some good videos you’d enjoy. She was JW for a bit.
That would be so interesting! Seconding the nomination of Melissa Dougherty, she is such a light in the area of counter cult ministry.
@@ebullock1000 I don’t think she ever joined… her story is talking to JW made her realize she didn’t have authentic Christianity herself, but new age practices.
me too please!!! I have a friend who is a Jehovah's witness and I would love to know more about this religion so I can chat with her about this.
I had a boss that went from Mormonism to Scientology.
I live in Utah, but I'm not Mormon. My son has Mormon grandparents, and I never grew up knowing God, so I wanted my son to. He used to go to church all the time, but as he got older, the church just didn't feel right to him, and I let him stop going. I've always thought the church has had weird quirks to it and never believed it to be the true church. Hearing what she said today made me so thankful my son listened to his gut. Even though I didn't grow up to be religious. Since I've followed you (for about a year) you have made me want to know Jesus... I'm still working on becoming stronger in my faith but you make me want to know Jesus and spread the gospel! Thank you so much for all you do! This episode gave me chills and made me cry. 💖
This is amazing! I’m so happy for you! You are being led where the Lord wants you to be! Jesus already knows you, keep letting him reveal himself to you! Prayers to you
This was a great interview! I love the Wilder family and their testimonies. Every time I watch Micah Wilder, it brings tears to my eyes. God bless this channel and these families!
Coming unto Christ takes work, faith, Hope, and the love of the Savior! Mormon is a nickname for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! Leaving the covenants there are no promises and protection! Returning to the Covenant path ensures the Blessing and protection of the Covenants!
"Central to everything we believe and teach is our faith that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God." Hugh B. Brown
Yes, but what do you mean by Son of God? Can you define that please?
@@APeacefulPursuit 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
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35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
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6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds
109:46: In Mormonism, I was constantly trying to do works to please him. Now the Holy Spirit lives in me, and He brings the works.
Lynn, you have me shouting "AMEN, AMEN, AMEN" in my house (Baptist background 😄). Praise God for using you as a vessel to show He knows through our Savior Jesus Christ how to seek and save those that are lost. Praise God that He drew you into His truth in many ways, including through your son. Thank you for sharing your powerful testimony.
May God continue to bless you and keep you and make his face shine on you and continue to be gracious to you.
From the Holy Bible:
The Lord bless you, and keep you; The Lord make His face shine on you, And be gracious to you; The Lord lift up His countenance on you, And give you peace.’
Numbers 6:24-26 NASB1995
Be well and be at peace.
Coming unto Christ takes work, faith, Hope, and the love of the Savior! Mormon is a nickname for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! Leaving the covenants there are no promises and protection! Returning to the Covenant path ensures the Blessing and protection of the Covenants! Seek to know for yourself about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Sanits!
Hey Allie, you should also have a believing member of the Church come on your show too.
Um... Yes
That would be fair. Please have an informed, active member of the church on. This is completely off.
Having both perspectives would be helpful. Possibly debate format that would allow both beliefs to share and let viewers decide.
Yeah like maybe her boss, Glenn Beck. I cannot imagine working for somebody who gives you the platform to make money and a living, and then disparaging their religion. I would never do that to anyone whether it was a Christian, Muslim, Jew or Mormon. It's gross. I love how of course the majority of comments just assume everything in this interview is the absolute truth and are sharing it and "convicted" to "save" their Mormon friends and "had no idea" about this and are so grateful Allie and this person have enlightened them. Of all the religions out there I think Mormonism already gets the most hate and derision even from those whom they hoped would be allies. It's not like they need MORE people "enlightened" against them. As Mormons we're used to it but it doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt. I've gotten to the point where I never engage with people about the tenets of my faith. It's not worth it. The vast majority of people have already been indoctrinated and equipped by the Internet or their own pastors to vehemently insist we're wrong and not Christian and a cult and know what we believe and where we're going better than we do. It's pointless. I think the best think to do in regards to Allie for Mormons is to just unfollow. She's always been anti Mormon like most Christians I've encountered in my life. Why not use the new conservative line, "stop giving your money/business to people who hate you."
@@brettlee6325 Typically we do not debate. We teach truth then let the Holy Spirit do the rest
I'm a proud member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and a proud Christian believer who loves the Savior, the Bible, and the Book of Mormon. Love everything about it. Much love. Merry Christmas!
Christmas is pagan! Not Biblical. Go back to the Word.
I think this lady said you can't be both - you can't be LDS and a bible believing Christian at the same time - they are two different gospels.
@@jimrollick8157 I guess this lady doesn't know everything then.
@@jimrollick8157 I’m a member of the LDS Church. In high school we studied the new testament one year and old testament another year before school every day… so tell me what you think we believe :)
@@sammieherman8909 This woman, a former LDS, stated clearly Mormonism believes every man can become a God. She said Jesus was once a man and became a God. Therefore, as she said, their are countless "Gods" in LDS theology and each one creates its own universe and copulates with heavenly wives to create "spirit children" so as to ultimately populate that "earth" (or whatever the planet would be called) which that God would create. Thus LDS has millions of Gods. Was she correct? Do you find that in the OT or NT?
God is Soooo good. All glory and honor and praise goes to Him for eternity!
Allie, thank you for honesty even when it is hated and unpopular. You are a lovely example of a Christian. You ladies may upset many, but someone out there will hear the true gospel and be changed.
Bashing Mormonism when you're primary audiance are a bunch of evangelicals is far from unpopular. In fact, it's more than likely going to make her even more popular. As an openly practicing Mormon whose lived most of my life in the American south I am very aware of that fact.
@@danielstark8356 You kind of disproved your point, because here you are in Allie's replies. : )
@@pennyelrich5231 How do a few Mormons in the comments disprove that most of the audience are evangelicals?
@@pennyelrich5231 and (if you look at the entire comment section for thid video) you'll find that for every reply like mine there are at least 10 praising her for having such an amazing interview that 'discredits' the 'false gospel' of Mormonism
I'm the exception in her audience, not the rule. Most people who follow her will love what is said in this video
@@danielstark8356 it's even worse than that, cuz your comment wasn't hateful, which was the original claim. I've seen 0 hate from members in this comment section.
I listened to this out of curiosity as a member of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints, knowing that there would be things I wouldn't agree with. I also figured I could absolutely benefit and learn from this woman's perspective and experience. I have enjoyed listening to your podcast for a couple of years now. I have loved supporting a Christian woman who shares so many of my views. That being said, I found it shocking that you would put this interview out there. I am all for hearing about other people's experiences and I wanted to hear what this woman has to say/believes. I have known many people who have left the LDS church for various reasons. It's interesting to hear their stories as well as the many stories of people who join our church. I was mostly just taken back at the way you carried the interview knowing that many of your listeners could be LDS. We absolutely believe in Jesus Christ as our savior and redeemer. To say we don't is hurtful. I don't feel like this was a fair depiction of what we believe in its entirety. I honestly can't understand how you could throw so much negative energy into this interview considering what is happening in the world. We are good people who follow Jesus Christ and are trying our best to serve and love those around us. I have NEVER commented on a public forum of any kind until today. This stirred so many feelings in me that I had to comment. Just a little side note: next year, our church curriculum will be dedicated to the study of the new testament again (just finished a year of the old testament) I am excited to read, study, and discuss it as a disciple of Jesus Christ. Learning of Him is how we become more like Him. That's the ultimate goal. We should be encouraging each other.
Good news! All my LDS friends are Christians! People would be better served if they talk about what they DO believe instead of what they think other religions believe.
Thank you for putting into words my exact thoughts/feelings
Good! My hope and prayer is that you will focus on John 1, which excludes the possibility of a pre mortal life and of Jesus being a son of God and brother of Satan and that you will come to the knowledge that Jesus IS God and always has been. ❤
@@AllieBethStuckey that Jesus is God and that Jesus created the world we most certainly agree. I also think we likely agree on more than not. Thank you for the good you do on your channel ❤️
@@leilettesartoga7276 Satan is Lucifer, an angel fallen from heaven because of his pride, taking other angels with him . Angels are not God . nor are they the souls of people. Jesus is the son of God and not an angel. Jesus is one ,with God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, If you don't believe that, you are not a Christian
I have always had a heart for Mormons to know God’s truth! I pray those who watch would take a bold step of faith to trust in the one true God who loves them immensely.
Judge not lest ye be judged. There is no place in the Bible that explicitly says Mormons are not Christian and they are going to hell without needing extrapolation, inference, interpretation or opinion. That said, the most important thing in this life is that we build good relationships, pursue a path that will help us to uphold good values, build our inner light and to build our inner happiness. If those things are met, whatever path we choose the Lord will take care of us.
My husband is an ex Mormon by marriage. He taught in the Mormon church was sealed in the Temple. He was told specifically that he cannot trust the Holy Bible and was discouraged to teach out of it. He started to question these things and started to get called into the Bishops office and he started to push back against in search of truth and was getting shunned. He ended up finding the true gospel and found freedom in Christ. He can now say that He knows without a shadow of a doubt where he will be for all eternity not because of the rules he followed, but because of his faith in what Jesus did for him. He now has that Blessed Assurance. He knew as a Mormon he couldn’t have. He would always have fear or wonder where he stood with his own righteousness which as the Bible says is like filthy rags. When we believe upon Jesus and what He did by shedding His blood for the washing away of our sins, we can have assurance of our Salvation because of His righteousness and His obedience to the Father, not our own to be saved. He doesn’t want a legal relationship (the spinning on the hamster wheel never knowing if we are ever going to be ‘good enough’), He wants our heart. A real active loving relationship with Him by the power of the Holy Spirit. ♥️
And I, personally, was in a performance based church community at the time a friend gave me her book Unveiling Grace and I was literally afraid to read it thinking it would try to ‘draw me from the truth’
The enemy is so deceptive. BUT GOD!❤
Enduring is part of The Gospel of Jesus Christ. keeping the oaths and covenants is part of Salvation. Breaking covenants and oaths is a choice! having a relationship with God is worth it! There are thousands of religions in the world and some say you are saved by Grace alone without works or authority! it is a choice whether or not to live the gospel of Jesus Christ or not! those who do not keep the covenants and oaths receive not the blessings! Come unto Christ! Return and receive all the Blessings of Salvation!
@@user-ii8sr1yx7p I am sorry, But I absolutely 100% disagree with you on this. I truly hope you do find the truth. Jesus. He is the only way and the truth that sets you FREE❤. Jesus came to set the captives free.
If you are LDS & wore out and feeling like you will never be good enough & questioning your faith, you are in a great place. You won’t be good enough, ever. None of us are. The Chasm is too wide. It’s the very reason the Father had to send His Son to die and take our punishment on our behalf by shedding His blood at the cross. There is POWER in the blood! There is power in the name of Jesus. Get alone and ask Jesus to reveal Himself to you. The Bible says that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. In the meantime, look up Andrew Farley.
You are in a great place because it is at the end of ourselves that we can see why Jesus had to die for us.
The Bible says,
Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
That is the Father speaking about His Son Jesus. Believe and be saved! ❤
Lynn is such a lovely lady. I was so happy to meet her shortly after my Faith transition from Mormonism to Christianity.
I think what’s important to understand about the different faiths believing in Jesus is that no one disputes Jesus lived and walked the earth.
The problem is really WHO we believe Jesus is.
Mormons believe he is our brother, created by the Father.
Jews believe he was a good man but not their messiah
Muslims believe him to just be a prophet.
But Christians believe Him when he says in John, “I and the Father are one!” Jesus is God! Emanuel, God with us! The last high priest and propitiation for our sins.
It matters which Jesus you follow theologically. Read the book of John.
Amen!! Let first, PRAISE the Lord for bringing you into His marvelous light❤️ and second, you’re absolutely correct. Anyone can claim to believe in Jesus, but a false Jesus cannot save a single soul. The Lord even said “unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins” (John 8:24). It is of utmost importance to get who Jesus is correct, and unfortunately, Mormons do not😣 I have the biggest heart for the LDS, and I truly pray for their salvation
Many Jews are coming to faith in Yeshua as their Messiah, Halleluia ‼️😀🙏🏻✡️🌟
Many cults - JWs muslims, etc try to say that the book of John is not a real book, that it was added on later by the Catholic Church.
If you ever hear this then you need to read Isaiah and Zacharia which back up the book of John.
@dessamae143 -- so well said!! Praise God you found the Truth!!
Right? Take a look at 3 Nephi 11:14. It's so obvious, by their own book of scripture what Mormons believe about Jesus. Just quote that scripture to them any time they try to tell you you worship the same Jesus.
We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
So great an interview!!
Enlightening!!!
I continue to go back to the scripture, and He said, "When I return, will I find faith on the earth?"
Homeschool curriculum for years have been Christan writers, authors. But not any more.
Deception is growing.
I left Mormonism after serving as a bishop. When I was a Mormon bishop I read the Bible and was converted to true Christianity. Preaching the true Christian gospel was not popular among the leaders though the congregation loved it. Mormons in my area don’t talk to me anymore. They are too afraid to hear the truth.
I don't believe you.
Converted meaning what exactly?
The Lord is with you my friend!! That is a very difficult thing to do. Praying for you!
@@justinberg4172 Fred was my bishop in South Texas. He went off the deep end and the congregation who "loved" his preaching (that's Fred's delusional and self-aggrandizing retcon) watched it happen before our eyes. Things were very uncomfortable on the rare Sundays when he would teach Sunday School. It was very sad to witness. Fred believed that the church went astray after Joseph Smith died, but that Jesus himself appeared to Fred and ordained him with the true priesthood. He also believes he met Satan once. He took a handful of saints with him when he left, which is the saddest part. The saints aren't afraid to hear the truth; Fred doesn't have any truth to impart.
The Comment from Robyn is typical from the Mormons that I knew. First it’s amazing the stories and untrue things they claimed and still believe about me. Second, it is likely true what she said about being uncomfortable. A few people, especially leaders were uncomfortable to hear the word of god from the Bible. It made them uncomfortable because it challenged many of their beliefs. This is direct proof that Mormonism is not Christian. I was never ordained by Christ. I was saved by Christ. In the same way anyone who goes to Christ is saved. I am episcopal now, baptized and confirmed. I hear the word most Sundays preached as it should be. Waking up to Mormonism was a process. It involved reading the scriptures. I learned that Joe Smith, a sociopath and megalomaniac, copied much of the Book of Mormon from the Bible. Sadly, many Mormons cannot see the deception. It hurts them. It makes them fee uncomfortable. And to deal with it they slander and libel anyone who they see as departing their path. This is common cult behavior. Mormonism is a cult. It was founded by a sociopath snd it is not Christian. Thank the Lord I was saved and born again.
I really like in studio guests. It feels more like a conversation and the volume for both the host and guest are the same.
I think that if you want to get to the bottom of what any religion truly teaches, it’s best to discuss it with someone who is a current deep believer and has the education and experience to speak to what it truly is. It would be like the difference between discussing Judaism with a disgruntled ex or non-practicing Jew, or having a long discussion with Ben Shapiro or Dennis Prager.
Seriously. Amen. Going to a source known to be against something for your sole information is irresponsible.
She is Lyn was in a very high position and lived the Mormon life sent her 3 sons as missionaries. They put her in such high position cause she was a high credit to them. God did His thing and showed her the truth. Every word she says is credible
Did Lynn say anything about the LDS religion that was not true?
@@radarvan yep she did. Many times. Like saying Jesus was just a man. Or that we believe in a changing God. Or that we are racists. Just to name a few.
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She admitted that she didn't read the scriptures before she was a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or as an "active" member, she admitted that she didn't read the New Testament until her son convinced her to quit what she never learned.
Doesn't matter what position she held in the local ward which is not that high in the church.
She is so interesting & joyful in her faith. Also...very clear & knowledgeable & well informed. THANK YOU. Very inspirational.😊 Love the scripture teaching.❤
Thank you for drawing the brief parallel of Mormonism and Islam. Same devil, same trick, different culture. Learning more about Islam after leaving the Mormon church was such an eye opener to that reality.
Praise God❤
I come from a Catholic background. Catholicism sounds similar to Mormonism. Confession, Purgatory, Priests, Pope, nuns, works, worshipping idols, etc. It was until I was 25 that I found the true Gospel
I left the lds church this year. For all of the lds people saying that the info here isn’t true- I beg you to read your own church’s website and historical records. There is so much doctrine that is not taught st the pulpit or in classes, but it is there if you look for it. When I learned things that made me mad or uncomfortable, I fact checked it through church resources and 9/10 it was true. I know so much more about the church now than I ever did as an active member. Don’t be afraid to actually look up what they are saying instead of just getting offended.
She admitted that she didn't read the scriptures before she was a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, she didn't read the New Testament until she wanted a way out.
She makes no claims from the scriptural records.
@@davidwatts1791 I recommend reading her book, Unveiling Grace. She goes into better detail of her story. She only had such little time in this interview to really share her experience. It’s a very wonderful reading, even if you disagree. ❤
The more I study, the more convinced I am...which comes by way of applied study and prayer, with the Holy Spirit as my guide. We learn line upon line. If the foundation isn't there, the building up of faith is going to crumble as you go deeper into the weightier matters. It's like trying to feed a baby steak - they can't and won't digest it. The problem I have with this interview is it's (obviously) presented from her own perspective, and not an accurate portrayal of all member's experiences, AND it's the WAY she is delivering this information....half-truths, using words like "strange" and giving the whole thing a specific "flavor" which would turn anyone off. I'm a member of the Church and the whole interview is cringey and inaccurate...and delivered in an obviously biased manner. I would have way more respect for Allie if she had an LDS scholar or devout member of the Church on her show instead (someone who isn't promoting their book and podcast, making money off their status as an "Exmo" - which many do). I'm an LDS apologist - I know the doctrine VERY well. I don't shy away from any of it. The issue is, the dishonest delivery....one-sided, missing context and explanation.
@@LatterDaisySaint well one of the reasons I left the church is the blatant dishonesty since the beginning that still happens even in things as small as general conference talks so…. I don’t know if you can get mad just from a dishonest point of view.
Also, I think you are all missing the point. She didn’t have her on her just to talk about the lds religion. She is talking about her experience. I don’t think Ally is trying to learn or teach about the religion. They are trying to help others in the way they believe- that the lds church is a counterfeit of Christianity. I used to be an apologist for it too. I was very faithful and it was through hours of study every day and reading all church sources that line upon line I found out that it is not true. You wouldn’t host a show to tell he Scientology is the true religion and should be accepted by all lds people as being exactly the same- why would she do it with the lds religion.
@@VWCheryl A person is not automatically an expert simply because they leave a religion. Imagine having an athiest who left Christianity come on a show to tell everyone what Christianity "is really like." Would that athiest really be a good source of information, to learn about Christianity? Just sayin.
A very interesting video. As an active and happy member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints l was struck by a few thoughts. First, why is there such a angry effort to exclude us as non-Christen? Even if we was fervently believe in Christ and recognize that we are saved by grace? Do you think you belong to an exclusive club that only those who say a phrase you approve of can join? Also, l was surprised to hear so many inaccuracies from a woman who was a member for years, she even misquoted the temple phrase. I wish God’s blessings on all his children, and my 2 Ph.D’s have only helped me appreciate God’s desire to bless His children, thus the restored Church of Jesus Christ.
No one is born a child of God. The Bible tells us that everyone is born spiritually dead in their sins?and children of wrath and disobedience. Ephesians 2
Our sins separate us from an infinitely holy and righteous God. Isaiah 59:2
The LDS church makes fun of God the Father and says that he is only an exalted man from another planet, that had to work his way to godhood, lives near a star named Kolob, is out sleeping with other women one of whom happens to be your mother in the preexistence, even had sex with his own spirit daughter Mary to conceive 'Christ,' damns people who deny the eternal principle of polygamy (D&C 132), threatened to destroy Emma if she didn't abide by her husband's adultery (D&C 132:54, 64), is going to have women sharing their husbands with other women for all eternity and the 'other women' will serve as sex objects for LDS men who happen to get to the top level of heaven.
Only an evil Heavenly Father would say and do those things. Heaven is not a house of horrors. God loves everyone including women! ❤️
Only those who receive Christ become children of God. John 1:12
Latter-day Saints reject Jesus Christ and say that he is a created being the brother of Satan, so they are not children of God.
I think you should stop claiming to know what the LDS Church believes about God.
@@glados-smith It's painful to listen to isn't it?
What on earth are you talking about? @@estherlewis7458
So then what do you believe? Is Jesus God or not? Are you waiting for a Mormon president in order for Jesus to save us politically? No one in these comments has said so.
Fantastic interview! Loved her book -
Thank you for doing this. Mormonism is not Christianity. So many are stuck in that cult because they know it's wrong but they don't want to lose their family, friends, everything. You have to be willing to give up everything to follow Jesus. He is the only way.
One of the many reasons why I am a Latter Day Saint is because the church teaches us not to attack other religions under the premise of “preaching the gospel” and “saving souls”. I don’t understand why people find joy in tearing other people’s faith. And it is not true that a member needs to have a calling to receive a temple recommend.
Why not learning about “Mormonism” from a faithful member, such as Glenn Beck or Jacob Hansen, instead of giving priority to an “anti-Mormon”?
Would you tell a Muslim that their faith is not true if you had the opportunity? If you had a platform that thousands of Muslims happened to watch? It’s not about tearing down, it’s about the truth. Loving someone IS telling them the truth and hoping they find it.
@@angelikastefoglo2478 no, I would never do that. I would use any opportunity to teach what I believe is true without attacking their beliefs. You do not convert people by attacking their religion but by showing them what your religion has to offer that others don’t. And of course, with your love and example.
Are you familiar with what Joseph Smith taught about historical Christianity? It is still recorded in one of the LDS books of scripture in Pearl of Great Price (History of Joseph Smith 1:7-20)
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)÷and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: "they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof."
To be fair, hopefully you realize that in comparison, these ladies are being very gentle in their approach.
Truth being objective, discussions about the essential differences in teachings between the Bible and Joseph Smith’s should not be immediately perceived as a personal attack.
Because a faithful LDS member denies any contradictions and advises you to "pray about it." There are answers and with God we do not need more faith than the abundance of evidence there actually is. As an Ex-Member myself, there is no need to "bash" one another, but rather love one another in the truth.
The amount of information Lynn and Allie get wrong is surprising. Especially for Lynn’s experience within the Mormon church.
The information changes all the time unfortunately.
The later teachings of Joseph Smith contradicted the Book of Mormon.
'Blacks' could not have the priesthood. After a lot of protests in Salt Lake City, it was changed.
D&C 101 condemning polygamy was removed. D&C 132 where people who deny the 'eternal principle of polygamy' will be condemned replaced it.
Children of gay couples could not be baptized. Now they can.
Even the name of the church has changed.
You're absolutely right; this is just a poorly done hit piece. How many times has Allie criticized MSNBC/CNN for weak softball questions and bias interviews? Allie you are just as bad as any of them and should be ashamed of your performance here. Do better.
@@jlewis8145 If that's true, how come they didn't remove the scripture in the Book of Mormon that says you should only have one wife?
@@halodisciple8459 There are a lot of inconsistencies in the Mormonism.
The Book of Mormon teaches that there is one, eternal God- three persons.
2 Nephi 31:21 “….And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.”
Alma 11:44 and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.
D&C 20:28 Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.
Mormon 7:7 And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end.
Later on, Joseph Smith said the Book of Mormon was wrong. God is not eternal. There is not one God, but actually three God's.
"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods,"
(Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).
“We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. These are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are simple. It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did, and I will show it from the Bible”
(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp.345-346.
@@halodisciple8459 I have no idea why they didn't remove the scripture in the Book of Mormon that says you should only have one wife.
They did remove D&C 101 which condemns polygamy and replaced it with D&C 132, which states that I will be damned if I deny the 'eternal principle of polygamy.'
Scary, eh?
Sounds like Orson Pratt is now apostate. He said that if you reject the principle of polygamy, you reject your salvation.
The Lord has said, that those who reject this principle reject their salvation, they shall be damned, saith the Lord; those to whom I reveal this law and they do not receive it, shall be damned. [p.224]
Orson Pratt - Mormon apostle
Journal of Discourses 17:224-225
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The same goes for Brigham Young and Joseph Fielding Smith. They are now apostate.
The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy.
Brigham Young - Mormon prophet
Journal of Discourses 11:269
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Joseph F. Smith
Some people have supposed that the doctrine of plural marriage was a sort of superfluity, or nonessential to the salvation or exaltation of mankind. In other words, some of the Saints have said, and believe, that a man with one wife, sealed to him by the authority of the Priesthood for time and eternity, will receive an exaltation as great and glorious, if he is faithful, as he possibly could with more than one. I want here to enter my solemn protest against this idea, for I know it is false ... [p.28]
... it is useless to tell me that there is no blessing attached to obedience to the law, or that a man with only one wife can obtain as great a reward, glory or kingdom as he can with more than one, being equally faithful.[p.29-30]
Joseph F. Smith - Mormon prophet
Journal of Discourses 20:28-30
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I'm going to end up in hell for denying the principle of polygamy. Scary, eh?
I want to prophesy that all men and women who oppose the revelation which God has given in relation to polygamy will find themselves in darkness; the Spirit of God will withdraw from them from the very moment of their opposition to that principle, until they will finally go down to hell and be damned, if they do not repent. [p.225]
Orson Pratt - Mormon apostle
Journal of Discourses 17:224-225
Maybe you should suggest the change. They did remove some parts that were racist and parts that did not follow the story line.
For example,
. . . “In Mosiah 21:28 the name of the king has been changed from Benjamin to Mosiah. In the 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon we read as follows:
"... king Benjamin had a gift from God, whereby he could interpret such engravings ..." (Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, page 200)
Unfortunately the author forgot that king Benjamin was already dead. In modern editions of the Book of Mormon this verse has been changed to read:
"... king Mosiah had a gift from God, whereby he could interpret such engravings ..." (Book of Mormon, 1964 edition, Mosiah 21:28)
According to chronology found in the Book of Mormon, king Benjamin was dead at this time; therefore, the Mormon Church leaders evidently felt that it was best to change the king's name to Mosiah.
What a testimony! One we can follow, Seeking God and finding the Truth of His Word for ourselves in order to have that personal relationship with Jesus. Yes, we need to hear the preacher and others who are speaking God's Truth, but they can't accept Jesus as the Saviour for us, we have to do that for ourselves.
"Today and forevermore God’s grace is available to all whose hearts are broken and whose spirits are contrite." Dieter F. Uchtdorf
Love that man so much!❤️
When I left the Mormon church after 14 years, I felt the weight of performance duties lifted from my shoulders. I felt free! I could no longer uphold the beliefs that were taught and accept the history. I began my genuine Christian faith practice the following Sunday. Never looked back. I did hear Lynn and her son share on CZcams years ago after I left. They are doing such good work. Thank you Allie for bringing Lynn Wilder to your audience. I enjoy your content immensely.
Same thing with Islam. It’s sad that it is that way but it has to be to follow Jesus.
I still struggle. It was very ingrained in me. I was Mormon from birth until I was 20. I am SUCH a people pleaser, and so worried about what people think of me. I’m still trying to find my own identity.
Yay! No more responsibilities!
At age 55 I left the Episcopal church to become LDS. I could go on and on about the Episcopal church but I choose to focus on the joy of my new life in Christ rather than bashing the Episcopal church. What purpose does this interview serve? Does it make you feel holier than thou? Will we hear from former Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, etc? Most churches are not Christ-centered but LDS is. Attend a Sunday worship service and you’ll get it.
Do you know for sure, if you were to die today, that you have forgiveness of sins and eternal life?
@@estherlewis7458 No one knows for sure. We are all at the mercy of God’s grace. I feel closer to Jesus than ever before in my life. What a comfort that is for me. I always say to people that wherever you find Jesus is where you need to be. He is the way to eternal salvation. I would never bad talk any denomination. People are experiencing Christ in all of them. For those still seeking, another denomination may bring them closer to Him. I see no need to demean and judge any form of Christ-based worship.
Thank you for this video! Very interesting. I was the FCA president in high school and we had a Mormon want to be a leader and it was very difficult but we (the teacher leader and I) had to define Christianity and basically say if you believe anything more or less, you can not be a leader. It was a pivotal moment in my faith! Appreciate your insight.
Allie you are awesome. Thank you for your boldness.
Allie, I am so thankful that you are a willing vessel used by God for His glory. God bless
all Mormons (including Glenn Beck) NEED to watch this.. AMEN!
Praise the Lord!!! Thank you for sharing.
Praise the Lord for condemning an entire people to Hell! We know the mind of God so well, right? We are the chosen ones. Repent! Christ is coming soon. This is NOT Godly.
Such a great episode!! I’ve heard Her son Micah’s testimony before. So thankful they found the one true God. Praying this pricks the hearts of others.
I really enjoyed this episode! Thank you for having her on and I look forward to a future continuation of this conversation.
I would have red flags on any religious group who glorifies a "man" as the founder of a church. Jesus Christ is The True Body Of Christ, He is the Way, the Truth, the Life, The Door and by no other name can we be saved but by the name of Jesus Christ. He never sinned. Put your faith in Jesus, the Son of the living God.
Grateful to call you both sisters in Christ. This was a blessing to hear.
Wow what a testimony! I can hear how grateful Lynn was as she talks about finding Christ. Thanks God we are saved by Grace
It's unfortunate she is so dishonest in it.
I grew up Mormon. I stopped attending when I was 18. I attend a nondenominational Christian church now after taking many years away from church in general because of the pressures I felt growing up in the Mormon church. I just wanted to live my life. However, these types of conversations have never sat well with me. Mormons believe in Christ. He is their Savior. I mean… the full name of the church is centered around ‘Christ’. The actual Bible is still very much alive and breathing in most mormon households. Now, are there Mormons who have taken ‘their truth’ too far? Of course. It is why so many children in the mormon church suffer from depression and suicide rates are higher than normal society. Are there Mormons who push and shove their beliefs onto others? Making the church look like it is some exclusive club that only a select few are welcome to? Yes, of course. But every religion has people who act in these ways. ‘Religion’ as we know it will and can never be perfect… because humans run religion. And human will never be perfect. There has been and will always be only one perfect person to ever walk the face of the earth… and that is where my faith now lies. My journey has led me back to that reality, and Christ is the center of my ‘religion’. But every church, every sect of Christianity, every ‘religion’… will be flawed, and of course they will all have people who don’t portray or live in a way that Christ truly would have acted. Find me a perfect church, and I’ll show you a church lacking humility. Christ alone is who I pursue. The church I attend is simply the place I feel most connected to him and enjoy worshipping. I was careful about which church I chose, but my faith is built every other day of the week, not just Sunday. Be kind to one another, Merry Christmas to all.
I recommend the Unveiling Mormonism podcast if you think Mormons and Christians follow the same Jesus
Some New Agers will say they follow Jesus too. But I hear they believe in a Jesus who is accepting of anything and just wants you to be happy. So we need to ask, who is Jesus? What authority of truth will a person stand on? This is why I believe the Bible must be the truth I stand on.
Mormons believe Christ is just one God out many that's not Christian that's something very different.
Wow, really good episode. So informative, uplifting and moving. Her testimony refreshed my faith and brought me to tears.
Some of what Lynn "informed" us of is not true. I'm not sure how she could have not been taught when she was a member (I am) of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that we need the Savior. And we do read the New Testament!
@@amandadangerfieldpiano
Everything said by Lynn today is factual.
Stop lying Amanda.
I read Lynn's fabulous book about seven years ago, so imagine my surprise and glee to see that she was today's guest! Yes, please have her back again!
I Would Appreciate it Deeply if Anyone could pray for Me I'm Very Sick Suffering Please Pray for me praying for everyone everyday God bless you All
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The Lord is with you, trust in Jesus !!
We are praying for you. God will turn your trials into gold. Psalm 34:19
This was so good! Jesus is Enough!
This was amazing! Thank you Allie!
So amazing that she and you can condem an entire group of people to hell? You know God's mind so well? Repent!
I’m praying God uses this conversation to open eyes, change hearts, and draw people to Him and the true, redemptive gospel. Thank you for this important conversation!
I too pray that people's eyes are opened to the distortions in Lynn's words and that they are drawn to the true, redemptive gospel, which is found in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. :-)
@@imawordgirl I’m sorry her words anger you, but I pray that anger spurs curiosity for you. Please read the New Testament in its entirety. Start with the gospel of John. Salvation is by grace alone through faith in Christ alone. He’s God incarnate, not a created being, and not the brother of Satan. Have a merry Christmas!
@@_lacyn_ I've read the New Testament. I hope you too can overcome your rage. Cheers! :-)
@@imawordgirl no rage here, and I’m sorry if that doesn’t come across through written word. Have a nice weekend! :)
@@_lacyn_ The New Testament frequently refers to the grace of God and to salvation by grace (e.g., John 1:17; Acts 15:11; Eph. 2:8). But it also has many specific commandments on personal behavior, and many references to the importance of works (e.g., Matt. 5:16; Eph. 2:10; James 2:14-17). In addition, the Savior taught that we must endure to the end in order to be saved (see Matt. 10:22; Mark 13:13).
Thank you as always for what you do and thank you Lynn!
This was one of the best interviews ever! Praise God that He called Lynn from darkness to light, from the dominion of Satan to God (Ac. 26:18). Thankful for God's mercy for making her alive in Christ. Only by grace alone, in Christ alone and by faith alone. To Him be the glory!
I was baptized Mormon and always questioned stuff hated the temple. They didn't like me questioning. I left shortly after and never went back only good thing happened is I read the Bible and believe everything in the Bible.
There's always people who steal God's Word but add unto it and subtract from it ... They will all kneel before Jesus Christ and proclaim He IS Lord of lords and King of kings ... A big price to pay for anyone misleading people from God !!! God Bless this woman for speaking up !!!
The Bible is a collection of 66 books, from 40 different authors. It was literally being added to constantly. The books were written over 1500 years!
Did you know the very scripture you are referencing was written waaaaaaay before the books were ever compiled into one handy book? The records in The Book of Mormon were also being collected during the exact same time. Just on a different land. "Other sheep i have, which are not of this fold". It's all the same gospel. Nothing we teach counters the Bible. Although it may counter "traditional Christianity's traditions.
John 10:16 “ And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. ”
@@mschenandlerbong8539 The Mormon gospel is NOT the Christian gospel. Period.
@@mschenandlerbong8539 Wrong !!!
@@mschenandlerbong8539 God inspired His Word to be written ... Those who had big ideas after that are full of themselves !!! Sheep of other folds are people of the world He created !!! Not people adding to His Word . He gave His Word thru a period of time perfect for you to believe or NOT !!!
@@peaceful525 You can use caps, and yell "period" all you want but you've made no argument at all.
What impressed me most was Lynn's steadfast, no-compromise testimony. There is no doubt what she believes and her courage is encouraging.
I admire her faith in our Savior! Some of what she said (about the church I joined in 1989 at age 8 and had also attended before that; now I'm in my 40s) seems to be very misunderstood. Love to you and to both of these good women.
i love this Podcast...thankyou Sister Allie😇
I am a faithful member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. For many years we had accepted the label of "Mormon" as a way to turn what was meant as a derogatory term into something that would be seen as positive through our relationship with God and with our brothers and sisters. Now we have shifted back to correcting the misnomer that we are "Mormons" because it does not accurately represent where our faith lies and Who is in the center of our worship.
With all respect, Lynn inaccurately portrayed beliefs we hold. One big one is the claim that we never called ourselves Christian until recently. In truth, everything in this Church is and always has been centered around Jesus Christ. The Book of Mormon is another testament of Him (it adds its witness to the Old and New Testament). I know this is true because I've read it and applied the principles therein to my life, and everytime I have done so with a sincere desire to do better, God has changed me. I know that what the Book of Mormon teaches is true because of how it's led me to the healing power of my Savior, just as the Bible has. I am a Christian, and I love my Redeemer.
I did not complete this video. It was upsetting that our beliefs were being portrayed with falsehood. Please, if it's possible to do without it becoming combative, have an active member of the Church come on and state his or her beliefs. We want everyone to know that we believe in Jesus Christ. He is our God. We love Him.
If anyone has questions about our beliefs, please visit the Church's official website at churchofJesusChrist.org. A good place to start would be www.churchofjesuschrist.org/comeuntochrist/about-us.
The Book of Mormon is also available to view at www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm?lang=eng. The invitation is open to all to read it and discover for yourself whether it is the word of God.
Thank you to all who read this comment and consider these words in a kind manner ❤️
❤❤❤ I am a faithful member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well. It was very disappointing to hear such WILDLY inaccurate and at times- completely false- claims that this lady presented as our beliefs. Sad that a lot of people are being misled by the false info in this video. 😢 I will be leaving a comment on the main thread as well. ❤
thank you for respectfully speaking out- our voices deserve to be heard, too
I have read from a few of different generations of ex-Mormons/LDS testimonies, and it seems that over the years various things have changed or been dropped so that it can be hard for those who have left to resonate with those who are still current with the culture. I'm only part way through the video myself, so I can't yet speak to what she discussed, but I think you may find Micah Wilder's book to be a helpful perspective since he was born into the faith and obviously had a very different perspective than his mom. Even if you still disagree with his choice, I found it more relatable to what I know of the Mormon experience.
@@christiana_mandalynn what were some of the false things you heard? Genuinely curious to be able to learn more about the differences between Lynn's experience and yours.
I agree totally with this entry. Some of the things Lynn gets wrong relate to the LDS feelings on the Bible. There were errors made in the transcriptions of the Bible. Thing about how difficult it would have been to correctly copy the words on parchment or other type paper by hand. The Bible was not written when a printing press was available. Our am offended by having our church called a performance religion. We serve as we are able. We are 😊free to choose. That is one of the greatest gifts from Heavenly Father. Regarding tithing: After everything God gives to us, can’t we express our appreciation to Him. I could keep going, but I will just conclude by saying that The Church of Jesus Christ is the only true church on the earth. I do know many good people who have not yet found it.
Been a member of the LDS church for 20 years and have never ever been told that God “might” save me. I have always been taught and told that I am a beautiful daughter of God and that He loves me and that His son Jesus Christ died for me and everyone else on this earth and through His blood I AM saved!!!
Also, we do read the Bible. We’ve focused on the Old Testament throughout this whole year and we’re studying the New Testament all of 2023.
It makes me so sad that in a time like this that churches are trying to discredit other religions. This is a time when we need to come together in likeness and fight the evils of the world. That’s the real enemy here, Satan and what he’s doing to this world.
We all believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost. We all believe in being good to our fellow man, loving our neighbor. We need to come together.
I have never had a closer relationship with my savior, and had a full understanding of the atonement, then I do now as a member of the LDS church. Who are you to tell me I’m wrong in MY faith. I know that one day I will be with my Father in Heaven. If that give me and so many others comfort then what is it to you?
I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I am a Christian. And you telling me I’m not does nothing to my faith or my salvation.
And BTW: anyone on here that says that all the “Mormons” are getting upset in their comments, is wrong about that. I can guarantee, just as I am writing this now, that every LDS member who has commented is doing it with a very calm spirit. No anger or hate. Just defending what we believe to be right FOR US.
Agreed. A little heart-sad at Allie Beth's choice of material here, but no anger or hate. Thank you for sharing truth here Mamasheim.
Thank you for your comment! I agree completely. I love Jesus with all my heart ❤
Do you believe that Jesus is God and always has been God, like what she was reading in John 1? *sincere question*
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
It’s just hard to tell, when you say you believe in Jesus, I just don’t know what you mean exactly, or what you believe about Him. When Jesus interacted with demons, they knew him, believed he is who he says he is, and proclaimed it - so they believed but in a different way, and of course there was no salvation in it for them.
Do you trust that the atoning work of Jesus at the cross is required and sufficient for salvation?
Praise God for this message ❤
Jesus + nothing = everything. I was raised Mormon and married in “The Temple”. By the Grace of God He pulled me out (think a toy claw machine) and after some time away, He opened my eyes to the truth. I once was lost, but now I’m found. Once was blind but now I see. That song was truly inspired- it’s exactly how I feel. My entire family are strong, true believing Mormons, including my amazing husband (I pray for him every day). I can totally relate to Lynn with God opening my eyes to all of my sins. I always thought I was SUCH A GOOD PERSON. I did NOT fear God, I did NOT understand his HOLINESS, or goodness or righteousness. Boy have my eyes been opened! I have a strong righteous fear of the Lord now, and not a day goes by that I don’t offer a heartfelt prayer of gratitude for what he’s done for a sinful wretch like me. God is so good! He is the same yesterday today and tomorrow and His sacrifice for us is eternal!
Wow amazing testimony! I can only imagine your heart for your husband to come to the Lord as well now that you have experienced it. I can imagine that this puts some tension in your marriage. Praying that he comes to faith in Christ.
Keep on praying and honoring God and He will speak to those who will listen! I do highly recommend Lynn's and Micah's books. Hearing their stories and realizations bright me greater perspective on how each person's realization and journey is different. I have also heard that "Introducing Christianity to Mormons" by Eric Johnson is supposed to be good.
May the Lord bring you strength and peace as you continue to witness to your loved ones ❤️🙏🏻
I thank God again and again for my parents. Parents with a biblical world view living their faith out and teaching me and my siblings to read our bible and to ask hard questions. God has used them so mightily. God is so good. He's been good to me.
Interesting to see all the accusations of religion bashing. I see this as a loving , grace filled conversation. It is not unkind to warn someone that they are on the path to destruction by believing a false gospel . Thankful for the courage these two ladies have to tell the truth. Instead of being defensive take some time to hear the challenges and go back and study and also read the new testament. May there be many people coming to faith in the Jesus of the Bible from this podcast
Well it definitely feels like religion bashing from members who actually know what we believe and she has said things that are untrue about our religion.
@@Ily779I can understand how you are feeling because I too was in your position.
I would encourage you to read the New Testament sincerely and ask God to show you His truth. If you can pray and ask about the Book of Mormon….do the same about the good news of the New Testament. Without the voices of religion, people, the internet, etc.
@@Ily779 if this is the case, explain what was misrepresented? Everything I’ve been told about Mormonism from Mormons was this. (The ones that will actually talk about it without being secretive)
I read the New Testament every 13 weeks (4 times a year) for more than a decade.
I read the Old Testament every 26 weeks (twice a year) for more than a decade.
I read the Parasha (weekly Torah portion) the five books of Moses and the Haftarah (weekly portion of the prophets) annually for the fourth year.
I read the Book of Mormon every 13 weeks (4 times a year) for more than a decade.
I read the D&C and PGP every 13 weeks (4 times a year) for more than a decade.
All these scriptures teach about the same Eternal Father; and His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ; and the Holy Spirit.
The bigger problem is the number of one verse Christians.
Read the entire scriptures thoroughly, without trying to fit the Word of God into your own belief system. About the third time through you will start to cast off the teachings that are not written in the scriptures.
Contention about the Gospel of Jesus Christ only comes from the adversary of all righteousness.
Everything that brings you closer to Jesus Christ is beneficial for your eternal life.
Bickering about accepting the same box that someone else put God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit in doesn't seem very Christian.
@@davidwatts1791 When you say contention about the gospel only comes from Satan, and you say you read the Bible through over and over (I do believe you do read it) how can you say all contending about the gospel is evil ? We see no shortage of contention by the prophets and by the apostles as well as by the Lord Jesus Himself. This may be an example of your Church teaching contrary to God's word.
I am a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ. I LOVE the scriptures and Jesus is my personal Savior and the ONLY way to God. This woman does not represent nor speak for all members. Her experiences are her own personal ones.
Infighting among Christians is exactly what Christ warned about.
Where did Christ require a 'worthiness interview,' 10% of your income and a masonic Endowment Ceremony?
@@estherlewis7458 Tithing and the law of sacrifice has been since the beginning. The anchoent prophet Melchizedec would be a great place for you to begin research on temples
@@estherlewis7458 As for the Endowment. Read your scriptures. They predate anything masonic. Leviticus 8 is a good place to start
@@suominainen707 Leviticus talks about Aaron and his sons being consecrated for the priesthood. Only those from the tribe of Levi had any right to the Aaronic priesthood.
There are no Gentiles there. There are no women there. There is no one from any of the eleven other tribes. There are no blood oaths. No one would ever, ever put on Lucifer's power and priesthoods. That's unthinkable. No grips, tokens, signs, handshakes and passwords.
@@suominainen707 Where did Christ require a 'worthiness interview,' a temple recommend and 10% of your income?
Performance based faith yes I understand…I was raised Jehovah’s Witness, I’m so glad I’ve found the truth and Jesus’ found ME. I
What is the purpose of life to those that are Calvinists? What is the why?
@@clearstonewindows The purpose of your existence is to know God and enjoy him forever.
@@Elizabeth-rk3do Why is the Earth required for me to know God and enjoy him. Why would God create something out of nothing to enjoy him?
@@clearstonewindows God's creation shows us what God is like.
His attributes and characteristics.
@@Elizabeth-rk3do I'm not sure my question was clear why are we here? If the purpose is to know ans enjoy God, why are we not just with God?
Thank you for sharing your testimony 🙌🏼 God is good and faithful and it was powerful!
I will start by saying the most of my childhood was in a place of darkness. My parents were members of the church so we did have the Book of Mormon is our house but I was never taught anything about the gospel when I was growing up. When I finally decided to pray to God for the first time I felt His love so strongly, I will never forget it. During this prayer, the Holy Spirit prompted me to go and open the Book of Mormon. I felt his truth and love coming the scriptures as I read. I will never forget it. I will always testify of the truth of the Book of Mormon it IS a testament of Jesus Christ. I understand you don’t believe that and that’s fine as we are all on our spiritual journey. But you are asking what your guest specifically said that isn’t accurate according to what we believe. I cannot address everything she said in a youtube comment but I will share a couple of things. Again, as others have said, if you truly do want to understand our doctrine better please ask someone who is an active member. Why not have Glenn Beck on your show?
Your guest says over and over that this is a religion of works and only our works get us into heaven. SO NOT TRUE. We do believe in BOTH works and grace as it says in James 2:20- But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead. In the Book ofMormon it says in Moroni 10:32- Yea, come unto Christ and be perfected in him and deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might , mind, and strength, then is his GRACE sufficient for you that by his GRACE that ye may be perfect in Christ and if by the GRACE of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God. There are so many more scriptures about grace but I’ll leave it at that. Of course our works matter, what we choose to do in this life matters. If we have faith we will ACT on it. Your guest even said if we have faith, then we will repent. Repentance is an act. Why would there be a final judgement if what we did on this earth doesn’t matter? But we are a fallen and imperfect people and we need the grace of Christ to be forgiven of our sins. As for the cultural side of things. Yes, we tend to serve a lot! But we do not believe there is an act of service tracker in heaven keeping track of all our acts to make sure we get into heaven.
We do not believe that God changes. In the Book of Mormon- 1 Nephi 10:18 For he is the same yesterday, today and forever. But we do believe God can change what he commands us to do. For example why do Christians not practice animal sacrifice anymore, why is it okay to eat pork now, why do we not practice the law of circumcision? All of these things were once practiced in the Bible.
And I’m sorry I had to laugh out loud when your guest was talking about our church infiltrating homeschool curricula. Our church does NOT advocate homeschooling in any way. Though I think they should. But the truth is, is that you are weird your family decides to homeschool. It’s definitely against the culture.
Unfortunately, there is division within our church on the belief of polygamy being practiced in the past. Again, I couldn't even begin to discuss in a youtube comment. But there are definitely two sides to this. Same with blacks and the priesthood.
It seems that your guest has trouble reading scripture. She seems unfamiliar with what our scriptures actually say. It is her fault for never reading the bible and for not teaching her teaching her children to read the bible. In our home it is read everyday. I feel bad for her son who went to serve a mission so unprepared.
There is definitely a cultural battle happenining within our church. The ideas of liberalism have taken the hearts of many. But then, that’s why many of us conservative members come to your show to listen. Allie, I have LOVED your show. I have been a listener for the past four years. And no, I never expected you to understand the doctrine of my church. I agree with others that this has been hurtful because I know you would never do this to the Catholic faith nor the Jewish faith. Even though I know you do not agree with their theology.
Also this is not the church of Mormon. It is the church of Jesus Christ. The definition of a Christian is one who follows Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Yes, I am a Christian because I gave my heart and life to follow Jesus Christ.
Thank you for your words.
I'm so deeply put off by the fact that Allie would pick Lynn Wilder, of ALL people to have a discussion about Mormonism with. Lynn didn't say one thing that was even remotely true, and her perspective is completely jaded.
It seems like Allie already had her mind set on Mormonism, and then invited someone who would confirm what she wants to believe.
It would be like deciding that eating meat is bad, and then inviting a PETA activist on, so you can both talk about how people who eat meat are bad.
So incredibly disheartening.
If it’s not a works-based religion, then why does the third LDS article of faith explicitly state that all mankind may be saved by *obedience to the gospel laws and ordinances*
What purpose does the temple serve? Don’t you have to keep the Word of wisdom, serve your callings, tithe 10%, etc to even have access to the temple to do even more of saving ordinances necessary for eternal life?
I really don’t mean to sound sassy or rude-I just don’t understand how Mormons can say they believe in grace while also clinging to the works they must do to enter into the celestial kingdom and hopefully attain exaltation.
Interviewing someone that left the church won’t be as accurate and truthful than asking somebody that’s still in church. You don’t know nothing about us Mormons/LDS and you shouldn’t try to steer people to the wrong direction.
Mormons believe God is the God of this planet correct? Not the creator of all existence? Because their belief in the exaltation through all these different means leads to you basically becoming a god one day. That being said, you believe that is what happened to this planet. Who you reference as “heavenly father” is really just someone else who’s made it to exaltation, and now you’re waiting for your turn? Am I wrong about this. Explain. Because if God is the creator of all things in the Old Testament, how do you think you become exalted to a “god” of your own planet. Your god is not the God we believe in. We believe in Him as the creator, as we have been told in the Old Testament.
Many keep mentioning Glenn Beck but he is openly going to Christian churches on Sunday….doesn’t that mean he is inactive as a Mormon?
Traditionally the Christian Jesus is different from the LDS Jesus…who do you say Jesus is?
The OT law and sacrifices were only temporary and the animal sacrifices had to be repeated to continue to take away sins. Now, Jesus came and fulfilled the law. He was the ultimate sacrifice for all sin . He died for our sins - upon the cross said “it is finished.” The law was there to show us our sin, now it is written upon the hearts of believers through the Holy Spirit. Hebrews is a good book to help understand this.
I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
@24:38 her comment really hits me as wild. I’m a 2nd generation member (aka I was born into it & my parents are converts) & that is one of the biggest things I’m taught is that I can have a personal relationship with God & He knows me by name.
I have no problem with people who choose to leave the Church; it’s their life. when she says “she didn’t know God could interact with you” that is just quite unbelievable. That’s one of the most foundational things we believe. Her credibility, in my mind, being able to talk accurately about our church really goes out the window.
All of our beliefs build off of our belief that We believe that Joseph Smith had a personal revelation with God & Jesus Christ where they appeared to him….that’s God & Jesus Christ interacting with him.
Edit: it leaves me questioning her being able to the best resource to knowing about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
38:55 “she didn’t know the Holy Spirit could enter you”…man she really didn’t pay attention at church at all.
44:20 again, I don’t think this woman is an expert on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints & our beliefs so she is very misguided in that we think she is going to the same place as Satan & his minions. Outer darkness is for people who knew God & Jesus Christ perfectly & his Gospel & denounce God. That’s not what she is doing. I mean i could write a very lengthy book if I commented on every single thing she misrepresents, but I’ll leave it at these 3 things.
Yep. This woman has credibility issues as well as people in the comments claiming they are former Mormons who were “baptized when (they) were 5” and when people called them out on it, they claimed everyone involved in the baptism “must have broken the rules”
@@Sam-hv9yy BYU thought she was credible enough to be a professor.
@@texnewmexneen That's the least clever response I've ever heard. If a Baptist were to teach at a Christian university, and then years later de-converted and started bashing Christianity using lies, would he be credible just because he was hired at by the Christian university at one point? Your argument is dumb and lazy.
@@Sam-hv9yy Just pointing out fact.
@@texnewmexneen Honestly, that doesn't say much. Plenty of BYU professors are not exactly exemplary members of the church. Not to mention, just because she taught at a religious institution, doesn't mean she actually taught religion. She could have taught English, STEM, psychology, etc.
I’m so grateful for free agency. I thank Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ for restoring Christ’s Church and the Keys of the Priesthood.
In the New Testament, all believers, men, women, children, and even black people have been priests now for 2,000 years. It is not a position in a church. It is who we are in Christ.
I Peter 2:5, 9
Revelation 1:6; 5;10
The true and living God is not racist. God never banned black people from the priesthood until 1978.
Praise God for your message!
And THANK YOU, Ali for sharing your testimony regarding grace as the gift Christ has given us and good works flowing out of that love and mercy! You bore the exact testimony every active, believing member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believes! We are not a performance based church. We are a church compelled to do good works because GOD LOVED US FIRST!! Amen sister!
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! Are they leaving because they are not willing to live up to the standards and live the Gospel of Jesus Christ or they just don't know what they are leaving? Who is living the Gospel of Jesus Christ and who is not? it is a Choice to follow Jesus Christ or not! Come Unto Christ!