2017 Toyota CHR Turbo vs Hybrid ROAD TEST

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  • Join us for the review of the ALL NEW 2017 Crossover from Toyota, the C-HR. In this episode we pitch the (av. 35mpg) Turbo against the (av.45+ mpg) Hybrid.
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Komentáře • 107

  • @robusttj
    @robusttj Před 6 lety +3

    Very informative and well articulated. One of the best reviews of CHR and others should learn from you to highlight the relevant points as in here 👍

  • @prashantgawade5331
    @prashantgawade5331 Před 7 lety +2

    I find your review a genuine and based on own experience of yours rather than mugging up the specification and reading it out to the viewers. you deserve a like and subscribe

  • @anthonykenny1120
    @anthonykenny1120 Před 4 lety

    brilliant review, just subbed, drove this hybrid model yesterday, I had the same issue as you highlighted regarding resting elbow and the other was the rear view mirror is over bulky which I thought blocked my front vision, other wise a super model. thanks for review

  • @Bondisaurus
    @Bondisaurus Před 7 lety

    I just subscribed because your review is worth listening to compared to others. Keep it up.

  • @terjesorheim
    @terjesorheim Před 7 lety +1

    Nice review. Good job telling me about the car :)

  • @leahms5180
    @leahms5180 Před 6 lety

    I love your style. The most interesting car review I have ever came across and it just helped me realise that I didn’t make a bad decision after all ... I owned a hybrid for 4years and I just purchased a chr auto, just to see and feel the difference!

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 6 lety

      Great! Glad we could help confirm your decision. Hope you continue to like the car. Did you go for the 1800 Hybrid or 1.2T?

  • @sunshowerpainting1
    @sunshowerpainting1 Před 7 lety +1

    My friend you were born to be "on stage". Thank you for a entertaining video...

  • @radical1nick
    @radical1nick Před 7 lety +15

    One of the best reviews I've ever seen, perfect balance. Told me everything I needed to know with a few giggles along the way. Great work 👍

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +1

      Thank you very much...plenty more to come.

    • @johnnyomahony5787
      @johnnyomahony5787 Před 7 lety

      Nick Dawkins is the one that has gone down with

    • @joegenova
      @joegenova Před 5 lety

      That maybe I missed something. Did he say what the miles per gallon were on the hybrid?

  • @charles6232
    @charles6232 Před 3 lety +2

    I’m in Australia and I have the 6-speed manual version, great fuel economy (best-5.6 liters per 100K). You get to change the gears when you want to, and in “sport mode”, the C-HR has a little more pep! Also, I find the blind spot monitoring and rear traffic alert systems are annoying, I have them turned off. Parking sensors okay though. But I love my C-HR!

  • @peterkang7198
    @peterkang7198 Před 7 lety +1

    I love your test drive review very much, unique insights and interesting as well! C-HR will not be on market until 2018 in China, I'm considering buying one hybrid . Thanks for the video!!

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +2

      Thank you for your comments. I lived in China for 5 years myself, 2010-2015. Hope you enjoy the car when you get it.

  • @colinmenzies7161
    @colinmenzies7161 Před 7 lety +4

    Good stuff - pick my 1.2 Turbo up in 2 weeks - can't wait 👍

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +1

      Congratulations! Hope you enjoy it....

    • @chitpaul
      @chitpaul Před 4 lety

      How have you found your car. Thinking of get a CHR hybrid after nearly 20 years of diesel.

  • @cyrokotours8118
    @cyrokotours8118 Před 7 lety +9

    Dream Car.....spaceship on land!!!!Amazing!

  • @PeteClarke59
    @PeteClarke59 Před 7 lety +4

    A sensible review for a change, most presenters read the marketing blurb and churn out the same old nonsense... and you can almost hear themselves thinking how clever they are educating the masses... congratulations on a thoughtful comparison. We're picking up the 1.8 hybrid in March it'll be ideal for punting around London and local roads... the Jag will do the motorway runs while the CH-R will do the donkeywork around town... if your thinking of getting the hybrid this year, make sure you buy it before the new car tax rules go live in April... it's Zero road tax to the 31st of March, if it's registered after that it'll be £100 for the first year rising to £140 thereafter.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +1

      That is great! Thank you for the compliment. We aim to do real reviews from a non-biased perspective and glad you found it worthy of your comment. It is very much appreciated, so thank you very much indeed. We hope you enjoy your car!!

  • @lalaisgongon
    @lalaisgongon Před 7 lety

    Hi there, hows the pick compared to the qashqai 1.2t cvt. i have that right now and it seems a little slower to pick up the pace

  • @itsJulianLam
    @itsJulianLam Před 7 lety +1

    Hi Mark, thanks for posting this review on the Toyota CHR !. This is one of the better reviews I've come across so far which demonstrates the performances of the two different engines. Here in Australia, the CHR will be released for sale sometime later this month (February), I really like the style, especially in the unique Radiant Green colour. I'm actually thinking of buying one !. We will only be getting the 1.2 litre turbo engine, and not the hybrid. I was really interested to see how the 1.2l turbo engine performs, as the CHR is not a light car for its class, weighing in around 1500 kilos (from what I've read), and an engine that only produces 85kw, its power to weight ratio does not appear to be very good compared to other SUV's in its class. I understand that in the UK and Europe, you get the CHR's that are manufactured in Turkey. Where as here in Australia we get the CHR's that are built in Japan. I really hope our CHR's include the high quality JBL sound system like you do in the UK. On another note when using the Park Assist, is it 100% guaranteed not to impact another vehicle nearby ?. If it does, I could imagine many owners would send Toyota the invoice for the repair costs involved. :-)

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +1

      Hi, glad you liked the review. I understand the Park Assist is excellent and although it is claimed to park in the space provided (which is the reason the car monitors the space it drives past first); I do wonder if the car was dirty if this would affect the park assist. Like a lot of things, they go through rigorous testing before considering including such a feature on a mainstream car, but I guess with all electrics, they can go wrong.....

  • @user-oj8ho9id5d
    @user-oj8ho9id5d Před 5 měsíci

    Hello there, I want to buy a second hand C-HR, is hybrid to go and what’s the difference between 2017, 2018, 2019❤❤

  • @mrkazishaon6124
    @mrkazishaon6124 Před 5 lety

    Nice video.
    What is real life MPG?

  • @wiggleme08
    @wiggleme08 Před 7 lety

    is the hybrid a plugin?

  • @mrpmj00
    @mrpmj00 Před 7 lety +1

    I test drove it and while its CVT was better than Nissan and Kia, CVT needs more frequent maintenance and is less reliable.
    I loved the C-HR design but it really needs more power. I heard that a manual transmission is offered outside of the US which would have encouraged me to consider it.
    Ideally, it needs the Camry's 2.5 litre engine and needs a manual transmission version and a sunroof, and Apple Carplay.

  • @harziar3248
    @harziar3248 Před rokem

    Which one is more economy?

  • @jamesowen4360
    @jamesowen4360 Před 5 lety

    Thats the cvt gearbox, im considering a hybrid version, love the looks drove one. The seats are great. So comfortable. Im just unsure if id get bored. Plus theres no Android or apple play. Im 31 like fun to drive cars. Is this car going to bore me??????

  • @MrLindsaydr
    @MrLindsaydr Před 6 lety +1

    MPG??

  • @whiterussianpanther6180

    Mpg?

  • @RichardHowesPhotography
    @RichardHowesPhotography Před 7 lety +5

    Buying the hybrid has nothing to do with saving the planet for the most. It's for saving money. I've had a 1.5dci Qashqai for the last 3 years which has been excellent, but after driving the Honda CRV and the Toyota C-HR Hybrid, it's the C-HR I've got on order now. The biggest attraction initially though is the Co2 emmissions for company car tax benefit. That is the market it is really aiming at as there are big monthly savings to be made there. As it turned out, it is actually no cheaper than the Qashqai to run over 3 years on my 22k contract because of the poor 10k service intervals as opposed to the Qashqai's 18k intervals, but the C-HR is the best car of the three to drive mainly due to one feature which you omitted, the adaptive cruise control. I use cruise all the time and that is such a great feature. Thanks for the review though.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +2

      Thank you for watching and commenting. It is very interesting to hear your view from the company car perspective. Yes, you are right, sadly the adaptive cruise control was lost in the edit as I did not have the opportunity to use it properly on that day. However, thank you for the input and the information. Much appreciated!

    • @julierussell4916
      @julierussell4916 Před 7 lety

      I am just looking at the 1.8 hybrid for my new company vehicle, I do do a lot of motorway driving and also a lot of urban, I really do like the greener aspect alongside the low Co2 for BIK, I'm not too worried about speed these days with all the new speed laws and fines, plus I spend half my time on the motorway stuck in traffic for various reasons anyway!! I am just concerned about the motorway mileage you realistically get as I don't want it costing me to go to work!! Can you give any insight, also do you carry much around with you in the boot for work? Just wondering how it fares with a bit of weight in the boot. Appreciate any feedback you can give. Thanks!

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety

      It's like anything, it depends on your driving style. Being stuck in traffic means you can pootle along on electric power, acceleration and deceleration charges the battery. These cars are well put together and I do not see you being disappointed with the mileage if you drive carefully. Of course the figures advertised are rubbish as they are in test (lab) conditions often just an engine running on a bench rather than actually in a car. The real mpg is around 10-15 less than the brochures so I would expect 60-65mpg for careful driving

    • @RichardHowesPhotography
      @RichardHowesPhotography Před 7 lety +2

      Hi Julie,
      When I had the 1.5dci Qashqai, I used to average 49mpg over everything. With the C-HR I am averaging 53mpg. What I have found is when I thrash the car, it sucks a lot more juice than Qashqai ever did, but when I drive like Miss Daisy, it gives me a far great mpg than the Qashqai ever did. My commute to work is 21 miles which is mostly A-roads and a about 5 miles through urban areas. The greatest MPG I have had over my commute is 65mpg in the last 2500 miles. It's nearly always only me in the car, but I do carry a fair bit in my boot as it's normally a third full as a minimum.
      I do also occasionally drive a 220 mile round trip on just the A1 and M62. I find at 70mph it's pretty good and you will get 52-55mpg no problem, but I normally sit with my cruise on at 80mph or 85mph depending on the time of day and that costs me 5 to 7 mpg.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +1

      Great response! It seems I was not far out. I haven't driven a CH-R over a longer distance so glad you could offer a realistic figure. Thank you!

  • @rookie145
    @rookie145 Před 4 lety

    good video

  • @EvendimataE
    @EvendimataE Před 7 lety

    i will buy a chr here in US if toyota can match or better the honda civic hatchback 1.5 turbo 174hp 31-40 mpg

  • @Dracsh
    @Dracsh Před 6 lety +2

    The hybrid version is cheaper in Singapore due to the subsidies given to greener car

  • @AutoStartTest
    @AutoStartTest Před 7 lety

    have a look on my full review C-HR

  • @richierich9761
    @richierich9761 Před 7 lety +13

    Perhaps an explanation of how a CVT works would have helped you understand it and we could have avoided the "goes to 5,500rpm" comments. A lot of these "where technology is heading" features have been around for a long time ie Park Assist was an option on Skoda's back in 2008 the all the other stuff is widely used and has been for a number of years, its hardly new, and the features unique to Toyota were largely ignored.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +4

      Yes, I do understand park assist has been around for very long time, featured on TopGear many years ago; but it has not been common place on cars in general until very recently. If the video was focused on technology it would become very boring very quickly. The point of "Where technology is heading" is to imply more common on a wider range of cars today, rather than a rare occurrence. I aim to make amusing, not-technology flooded video's...but I cannot please everyone of course. Thank you for the comment. Some are noted for future videos.

  • @dhanasiridesilva7518
    @dhanasiridesilva7518 Před 6 lety +1

    Can any one tell me Toyota CHR ,1200cc is full time 4WD or user can select when you need it . Thanks

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 6 lety

      You need to select which drive mode you want when you buy the car, either 2WD (front) or AWD, which is permanent.

  • @ssgeek4515
    @ssgeek4515 Před 5 lety

    I believe it has a constant variable transmission.If it does the only thing it's good for is...you can do the same top speed in reverse as forward. CVT gearbox is ancient Remember a DAF 66 car.As for the hybrids,infact all hybrids...they are excempt from MOT emission testing even with Co2 from the exhaust.Makes u think why have a hybrid.

  • @warbabe81
    @warbabe81 Před 4 měsíci

    Where on UK roads cab you do 100 miles an hour? You’re lucky if you get up to 30 miles an hour!

  • @mannicky4212
    @mannicky4212 Před 7 lety

    Is there any USB port in C-HR ?

  • @jdredbull283
    @jdredbull283 Před 7 lety +1

    for max fun factor watch this video with subtitles on

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety

      Haha, indeed...and I thought I spoke quite well....clearly not lol

  • @onura.5767
    @onura.5767 Před 7 lety +1

    15:44 Big steering mechanism?! You mean the 'BSM' which stands for Blind spot monitor

  • @markmd9
    @markmd9 Před 5 lety

    Observe with what speeds this car is overtaken :)

  • @lindachanmalcolm
    @lindachanmalcolm Před 7 lety +2

    Would u still be able to warm the car up on cold days without leaving the key in the car?

  • @MrDrifterNL
    @MrDrifterNL Před 7 lety +1

    Just went to the Toyota Canadian website and the 2018 model has the 2.0L engine. I wonder if the 2.0L will make it to Europe.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +1

      That will certainly make a difference!

    • @fundiver198
      @fundiver198 Před 7 lety +2

      No they offer different engines for different markets. US and Canada get the 2,0 NA engine, because fuel consumption is considered less important in those markets.

  • @BlackPawGaming
    @BlackPawGaming Před 7 lety +1

    this car looks freaking awesome.

  • @linglee4072
    @linglee4072 Před 7 lety +1

    turbo engine engines have a much greater oppertunities for the dealers to earn more money because it have more smaller and pressurize parts and components to replace or repair!!!

  • @mhmoochy
    @mhmoochy Před 3 lety

    It may sound like I love my planet which I do but I also love paying half price at gas station!

  • @stephenbailey7652
    @stephenbailey7652 Před 7 lety +1

    The Door Trim, that is mentioned, is NOT an issue. Just raise up the
    seat a little & I am More than pleased. My arm, is comfortable on
    the top.
    Any niggles, can be rectified, without hardly any effort. I went for the
    Excel. 1.2 Turbo. It has nice silver edges on dash board & pillars,
    NOT purple. The seats are half Cloth & Leather & very, very
    smart & very comfortable. Plus the wheels, on the Excel, are better,
    more spokes. The Roof is NOT black, I am so pleased. It actually costs
    about £995 less tan the Dynamic. Cost me £24,700 with add ons, like
    Front Silver Light surrounds = Chrome Pack. Side Chrome & Rear Boot
    finish. Just one niggle. Best not install the Chrome pack in winter, as
    parts of mine are coming unstuck, due to bad cold, wet weather, which
    has made some parts lift away. It can be remedied, carefully, with
    drying out & a Hair dryer. Great handling & I am still to find
    out about economy. If anyone is concerned about no CD player. I
    purchased one portable unit from Argos (Anti Shock) used a good cable,
    to plug in to AV socket. OK you will have to use 2 x AA Batteries, you
    will not be able to change the lists, music. But it hides safely away in
    the Glove Compartment, if you really want to use it, with the UP &
    DOWN Volume Controls, from the Dash Board Screen & the Steering
    Wheel. Super Dooper. £17.99 & 2.99 for wire. "Pleasantly Surprised
    & Very Happy" There is always another BETTER way to GO with
    TOYOTA. £20.04 Per Month Fully Comprehensive Insurance. That is great
    safe driving. Try: www.GoCompare.com

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety

      Great response from an owner! Thank you for your input. I understand your point about the seat but for me, that would make it too high for me. Glad you are enjoying the car, like I said I can perhaps see myself with one as a daily driver in the future and for me as a current Mustang and Mercedes E-class owner, I like power and handling, with comfort. That certainly has the comfort, although I would like to see a 2 litre turbo petrol option.

    • @darkside7382
      @darkside7382 Před 6 lety

      I've got the manual 2017 version, its actually amazing. But how do you raise the car seats?

  • @msanseverino78
    @msanseverino78 Před 6 lety

    Bro what the hell I looking in to this model over here in the states and it’s a new model for 2018 here but it’s striped down compared to your uk version . No leather seats no hybrid no turbo . Just a 2.0 144 hp. Wonder why Toyota doing this . I also love to know why no AWD as a option. Awd is very much need here in New England. Other thing no navigation and rear camera is displayed on the mirror not the screen on the us version. I wondering if there just testing the waters and will add more options for 2019

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 6 lety

      WOW! That is a poor...if I dare say 'range' Like you say perhaps they are testing the water although the hybrid seems popular in the US. However according to Car&driver, Toyota seems to think the demand for a hybrid is not in the US. Do they think everyone still wants big V8's there? blog.caranddriver.com/toyota-says-turbo-and-hybrid-c-hr-wont-come-to-u-s-admits-faster-version-is-possible/

  • @FoxMulder35
    @FoxMulder35 Před 7 lety +3

    and petrol consumption between the 2 ? saving the planet ok, but saving money also ;)

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +1

      Yes, you are right, the hybrid is better on mpg but with the extra weight it is not as great as you would expect.

  • @thomassrensen9423
    @thomassrensen9423 Před 7 lety

    The CO2 number on the car is not the complete picture. If you include the fabrication and degradation of the batteries the total CO2 on the Hybrid and electric cars is actually higher and more polluting than ordinary cars...

  • @deniapacalda7017
    @deniapacalda7017 Před 7 lety +3

    does always rain

  • @jakeflo4215
    @jakeflo4215 Před 6 lety

    Lane assistance is useless it will not assist you it will just give a a little movement on steering wheel and if you don't touch it or control it you will end up on the other lane, Toyota lane assistant is useless not like this guy is telling us.

  • @nicolaslocke1433
    @nicolaslocke1433 Před 7 lety +1

    I really want to see him review a Tesla. His mind would explode.

  • @sillymanami
    @sillymanami Před 7 lety

    Qu

  • @deadelvis68
    @deadelvis68 Před 7 lety +1

    Crappy continuously variable transmission (CVT).Had on my DAF in the 1970`s.
    Not merit to it whatsoever perhaps helps with mpg or is cheaper than conventional
    auto to make.I would not touch it with a bargepole.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety +1

      It is strange to get used to although I'm technology has moved on from the 70's variants...only time will tell I guess.

    • @timogronroos4642
      @timogronroos4642 Před 5 lety

      CVT as you describe, in the 1.2 Turbo Yes, but the hybrid No. Hybrid system is Continously Variable, but completely different, genius design. You just can't brake it.

  • @HVCPfilmproducties
    @HVCPfilmproducties Před 5 lety

    Cost of this car would be less if you British would decide to drive as wé do and have the steeringwheel etc. to the left! Hahaha

  • @annafeklistova5348
    @annafeklistova5348 Před 7 lety

    1.2 Turbo Faster? REALLY? That What we call FAKE NEWS these days. Go to www.toyota.co.uk locate 1.2 Turbo Automatic = 11.1 Seconds, 1.8 Hybrid = 11 seconds. In addition what toyota does not tell you is when there is a full battery performance is different: it can do it in 10 seconds.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety

      The manual is 0.2 seconds faster!...as are most (not all...like the Jaguar F-type) manuals.

  • @jroc01
    @jroc01 Před 7 lety +1

    "Dingles"

  • @Truth4Lyf
    @Truth4Lyf Před 6 lety

    Shit I bought the 2016 model of this car instead of the 2017 model. 2017 model has nicer headlights :(

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 6 lety

      Was it just the bulb surrounds that were different?

    • @Truth4Lyf
      @Truth4Lyf Před 6 lety +1

      I think so yh, ive got the manual transmission 1.2 litre turbo charged version. Thought it was 2017 model one till I saw these videos!

  • @scottsaunders3796
    @scottsaunders3796 Před 7 lety

    USA no turbo no hybrid and no all wheel drive

  • @mboiko
    @mboiko Před 7 lety +3

    I think I like the white roof better....
    www.carangospb.com/wp-content/uploads/Novo-Toyota-CH-R-%C3%A9-flagrado-na-Turquia-4.jpg

  • @Elaba_
    @Elaba_ Před 6 lety +1

    Prisoners would feel at home at the back seats of this car.

  • @Humppa800
    @Humppa800 Před 7 lety

    1.2t cvt not change any gears.... it is just computer trick.

    • @laterz76
      @laterz76 Před 5 lety

      Matti Leinonen learn to drive a CVT properly!

  • @bobrobertson9547
    @bobrobertson9547 Před 7 lety

    Has this guy got Aspergers or something? Who is his audience? I find him very patronising.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety

      HAHA! Aspergers? You clearly do not know what that is! As a psychologist, I have quite a bit of experience of Mental health disorders, and it seems you struggle to understand what one is....and what a review with a touch of humour is. You ask who my audience is? Perhaps one of the 83,000 viewers can tell you.....Please explain how you think I am patronising. Oh well, can't please everyone, never mind...I look forward to your review.

    • @graeme6667
      @graeme6667 Před 7 lety +1

      He must be American; they don't understand good British and Australian humour, only the insipid nonsense that passes for humour there. I have a C-HR Koba AWD on order, but will be removing the 18-inch wheels and replacing with 17's. Low-profile tyres are stupid on the poor roads in Australia, but I need the LED headlights for our dark bush roads.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety

      HAHA! Indeed. Do you find AWD is essential there? Excuse my ignorance, is it due to the dusty roads? Hope you enjoy it!

    • @graeme6667
      @graeme6667 Před 7 lety +1

      Not essential for the majority (who, contrary to what Australians like to portray, actually live in the cities), but for me, living in the bush and travelling daily on gravel roads, it is a huge additional safety feature, particularly for my wife who doesn't enjoy driving. I've had my Prado (full-time 4WD, now with 363,000 km) for nineteen years and it has been brilliant. Even the sealed roads around here have poor surfaces with potholes, undulations, broken shoulders, subsidence, truck damage and so-on and I find AWD helps a great deal with stability. I'm keeping the Prado, but looking for something that uses less fuel and is cheaper to run as a daily driver. I would have preferred something with a bit more ground clearance than the C-HR, but I just like the Toyota so much better than the Vitara, CX3 etc. I considered a diesel Forester, but it's a bit larger than the purpose I need it for and servicing costs are too high.
      After reading a lot of reviews, I was concerned about the C-HR's perceived lack of power, but after test-driving one with three adults on-board, I find those reviews do not reflect real-world performance. Most vehicles driven on the road are never driven at anywhere near full power. I think a big part of why the C-HR's performance is, in my opinion, perfectly adequate is that maximum torque is available from 1500 RPM. I am an avid motorcyclist, so it's not like I don't understand what high power and light weight is like.
      By the way, I liked the presentation of your review. Being Australian and understanding British humour, I found it entertaining as well as informative.

    • @motorsforthemasses
      @motorsforthemasses  Před 7 lety

      Thank you for the compliment. The Forester is a good vehicle but definitely expensive to maintain. I look forward to hearing your experience when you own CH-R!

  • @Vass881234
    @Vass881234 Před 6 lety

    UK CO2 company Car Tax DOUBLES ! in 2 years for 86 CO2's BEWARE !!!!