My main problem with Black Panther 2

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  • čas přidán 14. 01. 2023
  • Obviously this movie had a lot more problems but this particular point pissed me off and I didn't felt nothing for the Queen's death because it felt stupid and silly. Wakanda is obviously more powerful than it was shown in this movie.
    I won't criticize this movie too much because my father liked it but I wanted emphasize this point in particular.
    #marvel #mcu #disney #shuri #tchalla #blackpanther #blackpanther2 #blackpantherwakandaforever #namor
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Komentáře • 64

  • @davidcatlett4052
    @davidcatlett4052 Před rokem +35

    Against other nations of the world yes.
    Against a guy with a near invincibility factor and wing tipped feet. No.
    Along with his own Vibranium equipped army and some other surprises he's probably keeping hidden from view.

    • @Dimmary
      @Dimmary  Před rokem +8

      The most powerful country in the world makes a shield that stops at water.

    • @Billybobjoe
      @Billybobjoe Před rokem +4

      Literally the blue fish people are a "other nation of the world"

    • @theflyguy2133
      @theflyguy2133 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Dimmary they where powerful because they had vibraniam and had no experience with another nation that is advanced as them also the shield had a limit about how far it goes down under water

  • @jay-2004
    @jay-2004 Před rokem +58

    I think it's because of many reasons:
    1. Namor and his people launched a surprise attack. You can't really blame them for that, now. Since surprise attacks can catch you off-guard. They were prepared for Thanos in Infinity War. But Namor's attack came rather quickly and unannounced.
    2. These guys are superhumans. The Wakandians may have fought off against aliens and have advanced technology, but Thanos' forces didn't have powers like regenerative abilities. Namor especially, as his powers and strength was overwhelming the Wakandian Army. Not to mention they have Vibranium, which makes them all the more dangerous.
    3. I may be wrong, but think it's also because of losing much of their force back during the Battle of Earth. Many warriors died that day, and I believe they were low on militia power then. Even now, I notice there weren't that many militia men in the Wakandian forces. So yeah, I don't think they had a lot of manpower to fight back.

    • @joshuajeremiah3859
      @joshuajeremiah3859 Před rokem +10

      Keen observations. Better than just dunking on the movie for the sake of it.

    • @theprotagonist1311
      @theprotagonist1311 Před rokem +4

      Well if you look back at IW when the shield is raised the ground units force themselves into the shield while damaging themselves then regenerate the damage they took.

    • @jay-2004
      @jay-2004 Před rokem +3

      @@theprotagonist1311 Ok, that part is true. But I feel like the Talocans' regeneration ability was a lot more faster than the Outsiders (Thanos' ground unit force).

    • @lightningpenguin8937
      @lightningpenguin8937 Před rokem +1

      ​@@jay-2004 They were aware of an incoming attack, and increased security.
      These people just has a better way of breaching Wakanda's defenses.

    • @theprotagonist1311
      @theprotagonist1311 Před rokem +2

      @Jayden 3927Fan probably not, I'd say more bad/convenient to the plot writing. I mean no offense but many of your points can be argued against. I'll give you this, you're putting more thought into this than the writers probably did

  • @Reverse_Goat
    @Reverse_Goat Před rokem +71

    I mean Namor does have powers and Wakanda doesnt 🗿. He had been mentioned to be so powerful that even wakanda was scared and also all wakanda has is advanced tech.

    • @danilorodriguesart6588
      @danilorodriguesart6588 Před rokem +17

      ... so advanced that m'baku tried to defeat NamoRRRR with a wood stick 🤦

    • @raindropsandroses18
      @raindropsandroses18 Před rokem +4

      @@danilorodriguesart6588 ikr namor didnt even flinch

    • @cringekiller348
      @cringekiller348 Před rokem +2

      @Danilo Rodrigues Art
      Wood as strong as vibranium.
      Yup
      Wood strong enough to hurt other Talokanils.
      Yup

    • @DarsiPadilla
      @DarsiPadilla Před 27 dny

      ​@@cringekiller348that's not Namor, only a bastardization that's meant to be superficially diverse.

  • @XYZdude00
    @XYZdude00 Před rokem +25

    The strangest part of the film for me the pg-13 spear fight on the ship, that represented the combined might of the two most powerful nations on the earth. Plus the nation that had THREE IRON MAN SUITS was losing

  • @chance1774
    @chance1774 Před rokem +3

    that’s unrealistic reasoning, they’re WATER people with super powers and tech vs. surprised regular people with tech. there’s more water than anything else on earth so what are they supposed to do when they inevitably fall into their enemy’s domain? all that training goes out of the window in water.

  • @spaceybunny00007
    @spaceybunny00007 Před rokem +1

    Another thing, how are a race of people who:
    1. Have never been at war or fought other civilisations before
    and
    2. Live their entire lives with the gravity and air pressure of the deep ocean
    Amazing fighters who can beat anything in combat on land and in water?

  • @chupppy2086
    @chupppy2086 Před rokem +6

    I do have to somewhat agree but also it was a surprise attack and not like infinity war where they were prepared and even then they were kinds even in numbers of the fight but I do agree that I expect a bit more of a fight but also Namor is like a fucking op snd I mean I don’t think they have tech that can shoot him while he’s fucking ghost writing the whip

  • @kingkongchief1177
    @kingkongchief1177 Před rokem +4

    Its hard to fight a country and Marvel character that rules it who can literally flood every land mass if he wanted to.

  • @weego2585
    @weego2585 Před rokem +3

    To be fair, Wakanda has never fought a nation that actually was a threat to them.

    • @conserztasfia0078
      @conserztasfia0078 Před rokem

      Infinity war?

    • @SheanWalsh46
      @SheanWalsh46 Před rokem

      ​@@conserztasfia0078 and they need Captain America, Winter Soldier, Bruce Banner, War Machine, Wanda and Vision to help them. So yeah, Wakanda technically never fought a nation that not only on par but superior to them.

    • @lightningpenguin8937
      @lightningpenguin8937 Před rokem

      ​@@SheanWalsh46 they also didn't win. Also, War machine doing as much as he did, probably means Wakanda needs to invest carpet bombing technology.
      Not that it would help in this case, but it would have been great against Thanos' army.

  • @twinodoom
    @twinodoom Před 6 měsíci

    The point was to demonstrate Namor as a legitimate threat. Before, the idea of being at war with him is pretty much laughed off by many of the Wakandan's. The attack on Wakanda was a show of force that made the stakes tangible. No one can laugh at the idea of the flying fishman invading after Namor proved that his threats weren't empty posturing. Now, war is an unavoidable reality that they have to confront.

  • @Azzy-04
    @Azzy-04 Před 9 měsíci

    It’s that there is no Chadwick.

  • @monsta6501
    @monsta6501 Před rokem +2

    Your main problem is your a dc fanboy making hate videos on MCU properties. Your upload history speaks for itself.

  • @juabenrodriguez9113
    @juabenrodriguez9113 Před rokem

    This is a pretty divisive film, but it's also the second least-hated film of Phase 4

    • @Dimmary
      @Dimmary  Před rokem

      I was expecting wakanda to sweep when I saw the amount of tech they have in the first movie and infinity war.

  • @Fuegopaintrain
    @Fuegopaintrain Před rokem +3

    Just saying the US would dunk on namor

    • @weego2585
      @weego2585 Před rokem +2

      Funny joke, the US couldn't even taken down the Taliban.

    • @Fuegopaintrain
      @Fuegopaintrain Před rokem

      @Weego if Namur invaded the US like he did wakanda he would be met with the firepower of the sun

    • @cringekiller348
      @cringekiller348 Před rokem

      USA would get clapped instead

    • @cringekiller348
      @cringekiller348 Před rokem

      @helmet boy
      Power of the sun?
      Where exactly.?
      You except that usa will nuke their own Cities?
      Besides Namor is much faster than the us army.
      Bog cities like new York and dc would have already been destroyed by the time usa army even reaches there

    • @Fuegopaintrain
      @Fuegopaintrain Před rokem

      @CRINGE KILLER you obviously don't know what you're talking about, Namur would lose the the US in the ocean thats how much we dominate

  • @yoshaosaxofonista
    @yoshaosaxofonista Před rokem +3

    Its because wasnt Namor. Was El Nino sin amor. 😆

  • @Spyder1
    @Spyder1 Před rokem +1

    It's really not that hard to get. Here, I'll simplify it. 4 words: Other nation more powerful.

  • @bob_1216
    @bob_1216 Před rokem

    Namor is as strong as the hulk, they don’t stand a chance against him

  • @Anthony-wf7qb
    @Anthony-wf7qb Před rokem

    Isn't

  • @TheRealW.S.Foster
    @TheRealW.S.Foster Před rokem +3

    Power-scaling aside, the only thing that still irks me the wrong way with both Black Panther films is the use of "colonizer" by the characters in the films. Like, that's pretty darn racist to call a White person (or rather, just Martin Freeman's character) a colonizer because then you're just straight up assuming that all White people descended from Europeans who colonized (and depending on the circumstance, rather brutally) North America and other parts of the world.
    Let me put it this way -- would a Black person in America take offense at being called a spear-chucker? Of course they freaking would, because it's racist as all Hell. Like, you're assuming they descended directly from Africa when in actuality, a lot of Black people in the US today aren't descendants of the slaves that were brought from Africa (numbers-wise, I think the percentage of slave-descended Blacks was well below 10%.)
    What makes it all the worse, especially in BP2, is that this word is used by someone who at first was a crucial character in the story of the first film, and is now the main character & hero of the second film. Also, and if we're really picking at straws, it comes off a low because Disney & Marvel Studios (or really, just Disney) claim to be on the side of tolerance (i.e. The Left) -- yet how can one be tolerant yet still be bigoted in such a way? Then again, that's the f-ing Left for you today.

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před rokem +8

    The fact that this movie used the death of Chad Boseman as marketing is extremely repulsive

    • @GermanShepherd2
      @GermanShepherd2 Před rokem +3

      Well people had to know somehow how they were going to write him off, didn't they?

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před rokem +3

      @@GermanShepherd2 Or they could simply Recast the character, like they're doing it with ross (& they did it in the movie with Shuri)

    • @BlueSkullX
      @BlueSkullX Před rokem +9

      @@ArcTrooperRod-269 So if they didn't recast the character then they're exploiting someone's death? That sounds like bs. Maybe that's your way of saying you didn't get what you wanted so you decided to make something ugly out of it.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před rokem +3

      @@BlueSkullX they only killed the character because the actor died, not because the story need it, & even worst, they kill him by the same desease that killed the actor & they make all the marketing around the "d34th" of T'challa

    • @BlueSkullX
      @BlueSkullX Před rokem +7

      @@ArcTrooperRod-269 First off, the movie never said what sickness he died from so that's a lie.
      Second, the marketing was the trailers showing that he died and wasn't there. What else did you expect the trailers to be if he's not in the movie? 🤷

  • @LaloSalamancaGaming69
    @LaloSalamancaGaming69 Před rokem +8

    For me the worst part is that namor acts as the victim because surface bad and then tries to slave wakandians by forcing them to fight with him 😂😂😂😂