Why Victor Wembanyama Can’t Stand Chet Holmgren
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Chet Holmgren and Victor Wembanyama faced off yet again but this time the Spurs got the win. The deciding factor was Wemby in the fourth quarter and most people think he’s got the Rookie of the Year award won barring injury. But there’s another storyline behind this rivalry and it goes back to when the two phenoms were teenagers before the NBA. - Sport
We're gonna be telling our grandchildren that one of the Rookie of the Year race was against a French Goon Squad Member and tall-ass Abraham Lincoln.
This aint a race bruv
@@jamesedwards1284it basically is
There’s no race. Wemby is the clear uncontested winner.
@@Ayeee155 yeah but meanwhile that’s happening Chet’s gonna be playing in very important playoff games and having a shot at a title. Wemby has the better personal success but Chet right now seems to be on the way to better accolades and team success because if everyone stays in OKC they are definitely title contenders for years to come.
@@GroillaManplayoffs has no baring on the word. Instead only the regular 82 games season matters. This is fair when acknowledging context and choosing a winner based on stats,metrics, impact and eye test between 1-3 players who qualify as finalists.
Funny how media all of a sudden trying to make it seem like Wemby will leave the Spurs because they want him in their beloved big market teams. Wemby is not going anywhere, the Spurs know exactly what they are doing to build a dynasty with him.
The spur slander is only going to get more egregious as the thirst to aquire him grows. Fans don't even have faith in their organizations anymore. They rather root for super team shuffle scenarios with media in complicity. Because it generates buzz and billions for their beloved corporate masters.
He stays his cash is not heavily taxed like in other markets. Especially L.A. As a Spurs fan he's happy learning from the winningest coach in NBA history.
His legacy will be left solidified in San Antonio with countess rings and banners in the rafters.
#GoSpursGo
Yeah, I rolled my eyes slightly at the 'worry worry, Wemby wants out' take.
@MarquisVegan Amen! Thank you!
Wemby will never leave the Spurs to join a super team. He knows how it ruined ring chasers like Durant and floppyLebron
@@troyschnierer2940Yeah, he knows rings won from joining super teams damages your legacy
Personal beef. This is some 80s type rivalry. Gotta love it.
Celtics/Lakers and Celtics/Pistons in the 80s were 2 teams loaded with great players winning championships. Wemby is really good but the Spurs are trash. And the Thunder may be a good team this season but they haven't won anything yet. Spurs and Thunder haven't even played in each other in the playoffs. But hey this is today's NBA where players don't have to win or face each other for it to be a rivalry 🤦♂
@@roboninja3194 it's not about the teams it's about the players.
Hate isn’t the word more like rivals 🤷♂️
Clickbait title
You made him change the title
@HoopEnthusiasts Bro dropped a dime and a gem !! 💎💎
The NBA needs old school rivalries... I can see Wembanyama vs Holgrem save the NBA in the future!
@@AlexDiaz-rr4yzI thought it was just on court rivalry but if Chet really taunted Wembys family he had it coming. Family should be off limits. That’s why Chet always gets embarrassed when Wemby plays him.
Wemby is never leaving san antonio man gimme a break😂
He's a hater.. Like their American Media.
I know this dude trippn
If they don't build a winning team around him. Wemby don't wanna be stuck in medocirty.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 good thing they have 10 first rd draft picks to use or trade, oh and they currently have the 4th least expensive team salary in the NBA so they have a TON of cap space to fill out. Spurs are gonna get good pretty damn fast, mark my words
@@emilfrederiksen.1622If the Spurs found a way building a team around a very old Duncan and Manu and win a ring in 2014 destroying Lebron super team, they will find a way to find stars to play with the best rookie of all time
"He's like a 20 year old Kobe Bryant" is like the greatest compliment i've ever heard.
Yeah, that's some high praise
He's significantly better than Kobe was as a rookie. And despite being an inefficient shooter, he's as efficient as a rookie as Kobe's entire career average.
@@veganpotterthevegan True. Him and Lebron were both awesome rookies. Luka wasn't too shabby either
@@veganpotterthevegan I think he meant he has Kobe's more mature stage killer instinct at such a young age.
@@kyledabearsfan Seems to be true so far. Let's get him some backup
the real rookie prevails
It’s a shame how we’re in 2024 yet people still fail to know the definition of a rookie
None of then are rookies, Wemby was a pro.
@@OKC_THUNDER_NUMBER1 Dont worry chet will get roty next year
Jaime Jacquez Jr 😂
Nah
"The award has never been about wins and losses"
Tell that to Cade Cunningham.
yeah, the bust
Just have horrible team
@@genaldgalicia5834 "bust" haha
Cade Cunningham is not close to a bust @@genaldgalicia5834
Scootie Barnes was generally better than Cade in his rookie season so was Mobley.
wemby has said that hes ok with waiting. He trusts the franchise. If he does get traded, that wont be for another 4-6 years, but by then theyre gonna be crazy.
That's not final. Fans like you are sometimes oblivious. In the whole NBA's history, players whose height is above 7'3" don't have a long career because scientifically having longer limbs are fragile.
@@harveyscottz have you seen the falls this dude has taken so far? He has ankles made of steel
@@harveyscottzHe stays revitivly low to the ground tho but I still agree with you his height it'd be inevitable with injury . It doesn't make much sense to go after a Trae young tho. West is still too competitive and he's not giving you defense. I'd go after facilitators and defensive players cheaper like a Jrue Holiday "not cheap at this point"😅, Marcus Smart ect and some dogs coming off the bench in a Patrick Beverly. Spurs need these draft picks. This team should be built not as a duo but team. Just imagine a Jrue Holiday
@@harveyscottzusually but for some reason don’t see that happening with him
@@txbluj2846having bad falls isn’t a flex🤣
They add up, I like Wemby and hope he succeeds but saying he falls and doesn’t show it (at the time) is a bad argument
3:45 "Wemby's going to sit at home watching Chet play in the playoffs"...As if. He's going to start preparing for the Olympic Games, more likely.
Also he’s a rookie - it’s so rare for a lottery pick to get drafted into a good team, so you can’t assess them on overall team performance
He's gonna lose more games in the Olympics(relatively) than this season with the Spurs😅
@@veganpottertheveganyou don’t know shit about international basketball
@kareja316 nice guess potato. The French have a small number of good players which is why they just crack the top 10 for FIBA rankings.
@@veganpottertheveganIt's more so they came off a disappointing World Cup after 3 back to back medal finishes in international tournaments. They were ranked number 5 in the world prior to that. Talent wise, they are on par with most of the big boys in Europe on paper. It's just that basketball isn't played on paper
Wemby blocked all chances Chet had at ROTY
Literally
Chet never had a chance to win ROTY since day 1. NBA did and will continue to do everything to make Wembanyama its next 'big' thing.
@@oesp2370 While this is definitely true to an extent, it is extremely clear wemby is a far superior player to Chet, he deserves it anyways 100%
Thats cause Chet isnt it😂@@oesp2370
@oesp2370 whats wrong with that wemby is very good for his age
I think the gravity of what Wemby brings to a team will be a magnet for other stars that want the chance to have him as a teammate.
Wemby legit is the biggest prospect since lebron. Incredibly mature and resilient approach and mentality to the game. Chet is cool, but wemby got that Ant gene in him
This the most proper comment so far. Best truth too 👍🏽
Ant gene 😭 bro stop glazing the shit outta that man, you could have said kobe mj bird, but decided to say ant, a borderline top 15 player in the nba with no accomplishments in his bag
@@mrswaggypants14THANK YOU
@@mrswaggypants14 thank you bro 😭
I get it’s for the thumbnail, but hate is not in wembys mind lol
I usually agree with you. But you are so wrong saying he’s not going to want to stay in SA. He’s said it many times how much he loves the organization. Yes he hates to lose. But he’s not going anywhere.
He is a former SA journalist too probably still dislikes them
Yes to some extent. If SA do not make the appropriate moves a couple of years from now , he will leave. His fidelity is only matched by his willingness to win
@@flyinghigh410
That is pure speculation. I agree if the losing continues that he will be frustrated. But I don’t believe he will leave. He’s not that kind. I could be wrong. But so can you.
@@brentposs333 not only speculation. He left his club in Lyon where he was playing in 2021 (owned by Tony Parker, with whom he had good relationship) to go play with the Mets92 in 2022, to have more chance to win championship/increase drafting position etc . I'm not saying he will leave SA as soon as he has the opportunity. But if GM trying to f*** with him by not contributing with bringing in valuable players when time will come he will leave. It's obvious. He knows what he represents. he has huge ambitions.
@@flyinghigh410
I get all that. It’s still an opinion. I just disagree. That’s all. You are taking his past actions as a likely indication of future moves. I am taking what he says about “this is the perfect organization for me” and “I love SA” and “I love Pop” as something that might keep him here longer than it otherwise normally would be. I am fully aware of his leaving Tony’s team. I do not compare the two at all. There are guys that love to win that also stay loyal. I just hope we never have to find out who is right and who’s wrong on this matter.
There's plenty of moments showing that Wemby loves the Spurs, he's not leaving. Also, the Spurs are not going to undergo a "long rebuild". They have plenty of extra picks to get a guy like Trae Young, get another top pick this year like Cody Williams, and already have great young pieces Vassell and Sochan.
Don't forget Keldon and Tre Jones
I love the fact that they let Wemby play the whole 4th quarter and the Thunder let Chet to try to bring it on Wemby.
Congrats On 500k man!! Love the vids keep up the work🏆💯
Chet would never say that to Wemby’s family, he’s the most nonchalant laid back guy in the Thunder lmao
Stop this gossip bs on your vids…
Yeah, man. Chet saw Wemby’s family and Wemby introduced Chet to his mom. Chet just mentioned that the last time they were all in the same building was FIBA world cup. He didn’t say it in a taunting way like this guy would have you believe.
There’s an espn article on it written by Windhorst in case someone wants to verify. Which is something this channel certainly didn’t do.
Congrats on 500k 🎉
i was a spectator in that u-19 champ. damn thinking now , i saw some history in making!
He’s staying in SA lol it’s his first year let things fall into place
He hates the spurs even tho he used to work for them
sexual assault 😔
I don't think Wemby is worried about having a 3-4yr career😂
Agreed. Just what I said. Plus you ain't leaving POP and SA.
@@2Less0is0More2I think he is biased because the spurs passed on him as a journalist
That’s neither what he said, nor what he implied
@@ChidOki everything he implied with that comment was nonsense. The real issue here is how long Pop can coach
@@M0IVD0what do u mean
Literally the Wilt and Russell rivalry of this era.
The smile ont the Admiral face at the end of the game was priceless.
Wemby got that Mamba Mentality in him. ❤🎉
And that's going to be contagious.
You can tell.... Pop coached the hell out of that game. Wemby got so many touches. Touches he don't often get with his teammates and they just played their role.
Pop also let Wemby play almost the entire 4th quarter.
Stupid take. The Spurs shot 14% better from 3. That was it. And Vassell made some really lucky shots around the basket. If Pop is such a genius why did it take 50+ games to figure such a basic strategy?
And Chet is about playing within the team, not dominating the ball. These guys have totally different games and roles. Wemby already has one of the highest usage rates in the league. So that’s strike 2 for you. One more and you’re banned.
That's what happens when spurs wants to win. But this season isnt for win but for development and assets.
@@ErroneousMonk1 "if pop was such a genius" it's called tanking
Love the vids
I am glad I am witnessing these two!
I became an NBA fan in the late '80s and early '90s. You had the Jordan Rules, Knicks/Heat, Boston/LA, MJ/Zeke, Barkely v. the Civilized World (and 8 year old girls) and a host of personal beef and team rivalry. The NBA NEEDS this!
2:40 Memory lapse? France Men's National Basketball team won Silver at the Tokyo Olympics!! Also they made 3 finals at the European Championship betwenn 2011 and 2022 and WON in 2013!
Probably meant under 18
Wow, Trae throwing lobs to Wemby on the Spurs. 😂 Hawks fans are sicker than Trae post-surgery 😂. “Made it through 🤞🏽✨”
You gone be lookin stupid when it don’t happen
Locked for ROY after their match up ⬆️ if Spurs record was better he could have won DPOY as a rookie as well😮
Y'all making hype on wemby's 1st ever win to chet 😂after how many tries dating back to under 19 world cup😂
Wemby is Generational. Honestly we are witnessing the next great true big. He'll be on some Shaq and Wilt level of Dominance no doubt.
Always happy to see David Robinson!
The Chet/Wemby rivalry is one of the highlights of this season. Competition only pushes these players to compete even harder. Can't wait to see where this takes them.
Hope the rivalry will go on for sometime. The NBA will be enjoyable again
Victor got me back into basketball just sit back and enjoy while we can.
not everyone has that real competitive fire. its a natural superpower. cant teach it.
Yay! This makes me happy!
The Spurs have a culture you know
Great vid
He's a SPURS FOR LIFE BROTHER
I love hearing Trae talk about Wemby. There’s no subtlety lol. He just wants to play with him
so close to 500k man omg
He's always been on another level people could t see it, but he had all the skills from the Juno to be the best
It's amazing how most of these kids know each other and have competed against one another before they enter the league
FREAK NATURE 7'5, 8 wingspan point guard skills 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great analysis. You may be right. Do they have any assets to bring talent in now?
Haha. No. That’s the problem. They’re stuck with only being able to draft. They’ll be tanking for the next three years.
@@ErroneousMonk1 Incorrect. They have huge draft capital. They've got up to three first round picks this year (theirs, Toronto's - top 6 protected, and Charlotte's - top 14 protected) up to three next year (theirs, Atlanta's unprotected, and Charlotte's - top 10 protected if it doesn't convey) a pick swap with Atlanta in '26, two picks (theirs and Atlanta's - unprotected) in '27, and a boatload of 2nd round picks in the next five years. That's between six and eight first round picks over the next four drafts. Add to that some individual players who have value (Vassell, Sochan, and Johnson) and they absolutely have assets.
@@brushylake4606what is u cooking
Dis wemby and Chet matchups going be crazy
Early congrats on hitting half a mill btw
"Better stats in every category" then you see that Chet has better FG% and 3P%...
He had 23 points, 19 came from the first half, with just 12 FGA. I saw the full game and Chet dominated them, Wemby kept fumbling from pump fakes and their 1v1 against each other. The other guys from the Spurs stepped up and spaced the floor and that's when disaster hit for OKC and Chet. I get that Chet isn't their primary scorer but I think that if he were a bit selfish like SGA and JDub going for ISO plays, he would have higher stats but their team in OKC is solid and he doesn't have to play that way. Props to Spurs for winning the game and for Wemby for that impressive block. I just don't get why Chet isn't getting much credit for what he's doing. So sad to be an underdog
@@ajipanda001how is he the underdog when wemby dominates him every nba game they ever play and it’s still a “rivalry “ it’s the exact opposite
Wemby is on another level though. rookie of the year for sure
Love the thumbnail 😂
nice content
wemby aint leaving, playing for the spurs was his dream, he has said so many times
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Astounding to me that Victor goes on the mic and professes his love of San Antonio in a whirlwind of genuine emotion, and your take is that he is unhappy in San Antonio. Smooth brain.
my take is he's projecting how unhappy he was in San Antonio onto Wemby.
NBA is in good hands if these two end up making an epic rivalry.
Congrats on win 12!
This is just such a good journalism. The one we are not able to see anymore on the mainstream. Thanks a lot.
Never knew Chet said that shit. Not saying im mad at it bc i love competitiveness and shit talking but im gonna love this rivalry
Probably never said it, media lies a lot.
1:18 Wemby had “better stats in every category” as infographic shows Chet with higher FG% and 3 pt FG% 😂😂😂
Not trying to make an argument for Chet, just thought the mismatch was finny
wemby is so level headed and i am all here for it. the kid is cool asl
We got a generational rivalry
Long rebuild?
Spurs making playoffs next year, Bud. Look at the stats and the amount of progress the Spurs had this season; the majority of games were close to be won, players finally are showing comfortability with their roles, and all they’re missing is a top-notch PG.
Mark my words; GG everybody.
other than the PG and SF upgrades, really wish they'd add some depth to the bench this coming offseason too. Pretty much one of the things needed to be a solid playoff team
I don't want to point out the obvious, but it’s amazing that these two guys are going to be pushing each other for the next (hopefully) 15 years.
You remember that Olympic Commercial of the American vs China Basketball from kid to Olympic Gold
Something that I always like to share on content about the internet talking about Chet. In 2022, I went to the Portland location for the first round of the March madness tournament, I stayed at the same hotel as SMC and Gonzaga. Every player I saw in the hallway was really nice. Drew Timme was definitely the highlights. The only player who was being rude and disrespectful was Chet. He has an ego, and it’s not exclusive to his basketball career. The more I hear about players not getting along with him the less surprised I am he acts this way.
Y'all forgot Wemby played in the Euro pro league and Chet didn't play his first season in the league
This the type video we need. Not that 12 min drawn out shit
Victor, Chet and Lively, the center position is in great hands!!!
Number 1 Jersey. Says it all. One team. One love
What an interesting game yesterday
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Man, if trae could go to the spurs, wemby would be a mvp. They just need 3 good two way player.
Hahaha. Y’all are funny. All the Spurs need is one superstar point guard and three of the most coveted position players in the league and they’ll be contenders.
The Thunder are the 3rd youngest team in the league, right behind the Spurs and are contenders now.
Your baisicly saying if they had a good team they would be a good team
It’ll be kinda expected if they have a whole dedicated Beef History vid 😂
Honestly the Suprs front office isn’t going to rush bc they develop their talent and when the players are good enough then they might a trade or two that brings them to a contender or maybe just a deep run in the playoffs
Wemby is signing that max contract or maybe he might sign a Lebron type extension
Wemby should win both ROTY and the DPOY.
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If I were Spurs, I would still rely on draft picks and develop them. Tank another year to get a high pick like Cooper Flagg and go all in afterwards. Rushing things does not end well most of the time, look at Lebron's 1st Cavs tenure and Luka. They want to do SGA-OKC (J-Dub, Chet) or KD-OKC (Westbrook, Harden) route.
I love this rivalry. NBA hasn't seen any rivalry with actual vendetta for a while. The Lick-BeiJing era has been underwhelming with players just being best buddies.
The fact Chet is going toe to toe with Victor is awesome
Bro, Wemby aint going anywhere. He literally was a spurs fan since a kid. He staying
Please make a video about the whole Stephen a and pelicans situation
People who think he’s going to leave after one season is crazy lol
Nobody would love seeing Wemby and Trae together more than me 🤞
Hate?
Nah bro more like rivals
Hyperbole
I thought this video used to be called Why victor hates Chet
buddy will make the spurs accelerate really on the rebuild, he is nearly ready to support it...
Wemby hears the kill bill music when he see Chet haha
My dream would be to see Wemby in Indiana. Young, hungry, underrated players with buckets on buckets. Vic is the only missing piece.
Wemby got the mentality to be an all time great
1:15 Yeah I get he has like 2 more of every stat but like the efficiency tho
When Victor blocked Chet in the 4th and hit those threes I looked at my dad and said Victor won Rookie of the Year off that. I love Chet and the Thunder, wish they could have pulled another win against the Spurs.
2:41 France made it to two Olympic finals, in 1948 and 2000. What are you talking about?
Add Tokyo 2021 and make it three. I think he meant in south compétition but even there I'm pretty sure that France made quite a few trips to the last dance ( last year versus Sapin in U17 for exemple. Plus in the final Chet and Wemby did the fact that France played without a proper PG due to injury in the last 8 minutes and the game that Lofton played were more important in the final score than Wemby's being benched due to foul trouble.
Am I the only one who thinks Wemby is funny?? 😂 I’m a Warriors fan but I love the kid’s energy, what he puts out there. He has a lil trash talk in him and I’m all for it 🙌🏼
Based on Trae’s game and size, I see another Dame/Giannis situation. Trae is a defensive liability, long range and shot jacker. Only difference is he’s a better playmaker than Dame, but he’s more of a prima Donna.
If he goes to the Spurs and has a bumpy road like Dame in Milwaukee, I don’t think think Trae has the maturity and lack of ego, to handle it like Dame. Coach Pop isn’t going to tolerate his shenanigans. Nor can he get him fired.
trae and wemby in SA with pop would be a great base for a potential dynasty
Is Wemby gonna be a top 10 player in 5 years?👇
Next season.
easily without injuries
He’s arguably already a top 10/15 player so… Yes of course. The question is rather: Will he be a top 5 player next year. I believe he very well could
Most likely in 2-3 years if no injuries
@Peroriperora yup, definitely top 10 already. 95% of him being top 10 is due to his defense. He's maybe top 25 for offense due to his inefficiency.