Africans Are SICK And TIRED Of The BLACK TAX| Ep. 83
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- Welcome to our podcast where we delve into the concept of Black Tax. Black Tax is a term used to describe the financial burden placed on black people in order to support their families and communities. This burden can take many forms, from paying for extended family's education to providing financial assistance to siblings and parents. Let us know what you think in the comment section.
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All black folks are tired of this.
Can't help anyone until you help yourself. And yes you can say No to "family."
I can sum it up by saying, there is a difference between “helping” and being used. Once someone or something has become a burden to you, that no longer is helping. Also, if who you’re helping is not doing anything else to better themselves, that is not helping. That is them living off of you. Unfortunately, I have to sing this song too often with my UG spouse and family. Being “helped” does not continue forever. Period!!! ✊🏾😔 When the music stops, the party is over!
@unclsurg98 I love your narrative ☝🏿
Facts 💯
This is such a great topic. So many young African professionals are drowning in debt due to black tax. Some earn good salaries but because they have to take care of an entire village. They have nothing to show for it.
I think they can tell the village to get a job.
My issue is why isn’t the Black Tax abolished because this is a financial cancer that is holding African countries back from reaching prosperity.
@@njonjokibera9587 it's hard to get a job in most African countries. So, if one person in a family is lucky enough to get a job. They are expected to take care of their unemployed relatives.
@@knowz2367 That is sad. Yet you don’t take your anger out on the government because it’s the government’s responsibility to protect and provide jobs to its people especially the youth.
@@njonjokibera9587 African governments are nothing like the ones in the west. They don't care about their people. African politicians only enrich themselves.
The black tax is a huge barrier to building intergenerational health. It’s a recipe for a vicious cycle of fiscal struggles in African communities globally. Phrankleen on his channel from the UK talks about it all the time as it hinders the fiscal progress of the Continental African diaspora.
It is usually accompanied by emotional black mails. This is one of the leading cause of traumas, corruption and mental breakdown in African societies. There's no way an African politician banking rolling a typical large African family will fail to indulge in practices like corruption and embezzlement. This is a deep and big topic that am sure a few people outside African societies can ever understand
You are right. We are blackmailed to the point that it becomes emotionally draining.
That's why I don't tell my extended family and my own father, who never took care of me growing up, that I work. They will always think that I am in school. Sorry, not sorry. I will only take care of my mother and blood sister.
I just had this conversation with my husband, who is African and I’m African American. I will help my family that is trying to help themselves. Just because I’m making it does not give you the right the assume I’m taking care of you , you, and you. If you are trying, working towards your goals, going to school, etc.. I’m in your corner. I’m holding you down. But, if you are just expecting me to give you a lavish life without putting in effort, it’s a no go. And my husband feels obligated and will go into debt trying to help his family and village.
Happens in America as well. At 16 I got a full time job and had to help my mom with rent, give my younger sister lunch money, and give my older sister money
One of the realist conversation I’ve watched on the internet for a while… I’ve spoken about this before too. But I loved the way Rachel broke it down. Shout out to Oshey for giving the Western version of black Tax. Loved Jointa and Brian’s points too. Black Tax mannn I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one thinking about this. One of the best convos so far in 2023. Financial literacy is the way forward 🌍
🇯🇲🇰🇪🇺🇬🇿🇼🇬🇭🇲🇼The black tax is common for Africans around the world. We Jamaicans also do it..🇲🇼🇬🇭🇿🇼🇺🇬🇰🇪🇯🇲
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In Jamaica it’s called the Pum Pum pension
This is a sad conversation. Truly a western perspective. O'Shay you are familiar with Dr Clark saying we come from a civilization with no word for jail or old folks home because no one had ever thrown grand ma away. We are our Ancestors and elders. We must keep that intact. Now, I'm not saying take care of the entire family or frivolous spending, but the elders must be cared for. Asé
Exactly.
Not once did anyone say throw away elderly people. I think you missed the entire podcast about lack of responsibility and accountability by people brainwashed by backwardness to think that children are cash producing crops that they don't have to water or care for. If you fail to socially evolve because of dogged stubbornness and faithfulness to outdated, backward practices that are dragging your society into hopeless poverty, then you can expect no sympathy.
Elders must be cared for, yes, but it'd make sense if the elders impacted the lives of the people who they receive the care from. I'm trying to leave something for my child, in addition to coughing his school fees. That way, I am making the conditions for him easier such that, when he grows up, he will have a foundation to build upon. And when I've become elderly, It won't be a burden to him taking care me. I believe a parent should have financial obligations to his offsprings and not otherwise unless under some special circumstances.
Heard about this. In America? We could never 🙅🏽♂️
You have to get to give. You can’t help nobody if you’re broke. Help yourself then others!
Most people in the black communities don't talk about this,so needed was talking with my co-workers were talking about this tonight.
😊if your family helped you get to where you are now ,help should be given back ! 😁 but there is only so much you can do . Understand the balance .
Were they doing their duty or helping?
@@kaykay5605 When we choose to have children we owe them the best life we can give them. In return they owe their children the same . Whole families sacrifice a lot to help children succeed so giving back should be expected without abusing it !
We need to take that term: BLACK TAX and create a bank which all black people and whoever else wants to contribute will give the lowest currency denominator in their nation of abode to the development of Black Africa trade, manufacturing, and other. An institution which has members whom are all the contributors, therefore transparency becomes easier. Every penny should be spent on whatever endevours we are investing in each month and evidence of how much was spent on each thing should be presented. NOW WE DO IT !!!!
Excellent
Once a man twice a child the nursing home doesn't have the room nor the hands to care for these single people. I'm gullah we care for our elders. We can't pay taxes to pay for these non breeders in old age. You expect other people's children to foot the bill for a life u chose.
It’s called being used
Most Africans own personal /Ancestral Land to engage into farming which is a big business. Some younger generation despises farming , if they can take it up, they would all be rich to take care of themselves plus extended families without any issues instead of wasting time and money in the cities. Bill Gates owns a majority of Land in North America which is all geared for farming. The most Valuable asset on earth is Land. I know many who are doing the right thing in Africa and you will never hear them complain about a thing. Another note to Africns please dont sell or divide the Ancestral land , engage into mixed farming and split the proceeds with in family members that way the wealth is circulated within for generations to come now you have solved the generational curse of poverty. Always remember to lease external land not sell it.
Damn the look on Joanita's face when O'Shay said, "let's say if I got married to you." She looked like a Me Too victim.
lMAO
Since many of these poor-planning, less than industrious, leeching relatives claim to believe in and adhere to the principles espoused in the Holy Bible, the Apostle Paul stated in 2 Thessalonians 3:10, that if an able bodied person doesn't work, they shouldn't eat.
Practice what you preach and change your mindsets.
Haaa! Don't leave out Proverbs 13:22....what a good man does for his children. They go to so much church in Africa, and I don't think there's ever any mention of guilt tripping your children into taking care of their siblings that YOU produced, nor running debt trap hustles on your daughters by traditionally selling them to men, all while indoctrinating and brainwashing younger generations into this poverty worshipping insanity practice.
In my family, it was the third born (my sister) who sacrificed the most, the first and second born nothing was ever expected from them
Thank you for the diversity of topics! May your podcast continue to grow. I have my opinions and I appreciate a place to express it. That’s how we grow. God bless.
We need to make more awareness about this.
Parents should know there’s a reason why most of us have delayed to have kids so they have to stop giving birth to many kids thinking we will take care of them.
If l was ready to pay school fees and all ,l would have had kids myself already.
Love from Haiti 🇭🇹
If have money we looking brother and sister grandparents!! Tudiza abazade bafe tulyoke tufune omukisa,.naye mulimu abantu ababibebatono.oba ofumbidwa omusajja nga ayina sente muwayo obuntu obutono,nga sukali omunyo.nga ogwo. Mubuganda tetutunulira mubuko,.
You all made excellent points today - ALL of you.
Thank you for broaching this universal topic.
Africa is not my problem. And I have no children 😊
What was the point of commenting then? You wouldn't go on a Chinese page and say "Asia is not my problem", now would you?
Church collect black tax as well
Solid discussion....balance and boundaries
Black tax is the result of poor organization and management.
Osagyefo had this under control. IF the other politicians who took over had organised and managed the Ghana economy like Osagyefo did Ghana would have been one of the progressive communities in Africa.
such a fantastic episode. Look after yourself.
Great show as always guys🙏🏾
Totally agree, I mean it’s a never ending cycle in the motherland!
Great topic ❤
The parental tithe, wow
Great convo. Much needed. I encourage all to TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF FIRST . This idea of black tax is ridiculous. The idea of the lottery child in Africa is normal, it is the girls that are being pimped by the parents mostly. Also the more education you have the less children you will produce, smart ppl make good decisions for long term. Say NO to BLK TAX......especially family.
we have to promote marriage and children - because best believe the other races are quietly having 5+ children
So?
What Khuhani said about the "one chance" thing, I believe she got it from Mark Cuban from Shark Tank, and I absolutely agree.
Slappin' Podcast!! Honest, Relevant, Important! Kenganda to the world!! IF they are so sick and tired of Black Tax, why do they participate and support Brideprice🤔. IJS if a "tradition" is no longer relevant and has actually become a burdensome liability to a healthy society and economy, it is kind of backward to continue practicing. I don't even exchange phone numbers with people in Uganda anymore, young or old. It ALWAYS results in phone call a few weeks later, when I don't even remember who this person is, and them asking/begging for money. It will always amaze and bewilder me how PARENTAL Responsibility becomes less of a responsibility as the number of children increases? .... backwardness is the only word my limited vocabulary can apply to the social condition. I can TOTALLY relate to ODJ about the empathy and pain you feel seeing the young talented brilliant Ugandans that need so much PARENTING. As much as you want to help them, you can't reverse "tradition" especially when it's supported by the people it does the damage to.
🎯 bomb-ass comment
L take
Brideprice is only paid once. Just like white men buy engagement rings for their fiancees. Black tax is different because you are expected to give your parents financial support every month until both your parents die. I know some people who take care of grandparents, uncles, aunts, and cousins. Imagine that. You are working for your extended family your whole life. You can never build wealth in that way.
@@knowz2367 If you think that you will only pay brideprice and her family never ask you for anything again then you are truly naive. Buying your fiancee a ring is money that goes directly to HER, she is in your household and if worse comes to worse she could liquidate the ring to feed the kids. There is no justification for the selling of daughters, no matter how you try to turn that backwardness.
Bride price is an important part of marriage ceremony in Africa and wasn’t meant to make the couple poor but bring the two families together. It’s a small token of appreciation for the brides family.
The country has resources that is being constantly ciphoned off that could improve the outcomes of young population...it is all by design that job opportunities are scarce, that the brain drain is ongoing, and that corruption is rampant...
Earn. Invest. Invest. Invest. Then you can pay black tax.
Unca OSHAy out here doing the real in Kenya and uganda❤❤❤❤
Perhaps their parents are repeating what they grew up with. Either way helping your parents is one thing but having to help everyone else is another. However I do know some Nigerians, Cameroons and Kenyans who consider the man with the highest income in the west to be the head of the family. He is called a King and the whole family has to consult with him regarding their school, career, etc. If he feels it's a good direction for them he then helps them to reach their goal. He's basically like father to everyone. Sometimes he's not the oldest child either. He a say about everyone marries. I actually know one who's brother's wife passed and he sent his brother, the "King" a bill for over $30,000. The King wasn't happy but he said he had to send it because that's what is expected of him. Even though he thought the brother went overboard with the funeral. So it can get burdensome.
His wife would've been buried in the backyard.
D that’s everywhere in Africa
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You dont know how accurate you are..i see it in my own backyard
Wow, sounds complicated. Good conversation though.
Oh, so this tax is what is causing all the problems in some areas of the country?
Oshay , I know you were kidding but you should marry Joanita . Everything you say about her character and the trust you have in her says wife and she’s beautiful. ❤
She is beautiful…growing on me each video
A minister in Ugandan was convincted of theft. But his tribe defended him because he was giving kickbacks and paying black tax to them.
These longer form discussions are much better, get a little deeper.
I think he likes the story time music. 😂😂😂
This is not unique to Africa or Black people. It goes on in EVERY developing country around the world. White Eastern Europeans feel it. South Americans feel it. Asians feel it. Middle Easterners feel it.
If we are vying for black unity let’s stop associating things with a negative connotation with black like black tax. This phenomenon is seen across all economically challenged communities like Mexican, Indian, Chinese etc. instead calling this black tax it be more accurate to say the Come Up Tax since economically poor communities are expect to see some sort of fruit from their labor and sacrifice to help their children step above their current wealth level.
Kenganda nation🙌🏾🇯🇲
Please get some elderly (50+ years old) men and women for this topic. This can help bring the understanding between the young old and diaspora Africans. Get some history professors from the university if you can. This discussion was important but was not deep enough. There is history of African "economic system." E.g. land was not for sale...people shared things.
Well good bye house. The dad took the reverse mortgage to keep himself afloat (didn't ask for nothing). Now either save the house or let it go. Plus commercials are pushing reverse mortgages in ads as a way to get people to get money from reverse mortgages. That's the breaks.
It sounds as though there's a vast need for teaching life skills to the young people.
That's a business opportunity - one which the government (the Ugandan government in this instance) should be more than willing to subsidize.
Brother they have NGOs and things doing this all over Africa. Life skills training doesn't change a CULTURE that practices and embraces financial backwardness. They can learn how to balance books and cook meals all day long. When it comes to social and fiscal responsibility they will default to TRADITION and pridefully defend that backwardness even while living in the poverty that it produces. The best you can do is find forward thinking logical young people like Oshay had done and work with them.
@@Silverbackugx Damn.
At this rate, it will be another 500 years before the continent, as a whole, sees daylight.
It is difficult to comprehend how this mindset could have existed BEFORE the arrival of the European Mzungus.
@@littleredhenaquaponicsfarm1613 You're right but its very easy to see how the European is able to exploit and benefit from the selfish, entitled, backward characteristics of the older people.
@@Silverbackugx Very true, what you said. Black Amarica in general isn't much better though. You may not have the beideprice like we do (which I'm not defending) but you have your backwardness and illiteracies. If you read the comments section, looks some things discussed on here are happening even in black America. Looks like it's a curse on the whole black race!
When you have land and utilize it accordingly regardless of how many families one has , best believe it, you'll never lack in anything. Land will outdo any modern investment bar none. Because that's what our Ancient Ancestors survived upon in Kemet for thousands of years and what built their civilizations. Thats how they managed Spirituality , poverty etc. .From their records, farming is the only way to achieve success to come close to the gods as far as the black community is concerned. The black woman and man will never succeed untl they own land. Our belongings
Land is one thing, it's only dirt and will respond to however you treat it. When you have a culture where men look for wives to plow the fields and plant the crops while they get drunk and chase other women producing babies uncontrollably. Your land has less and less value when you've created a cycle of poverty where survival causes your children to leave your land.
I NEVER KNEW IT WAS CALLED BLACK TAX..BLACK TAX PERVERTED IS PERVERSION BUT IF BLACK TAX IS THA POT THAT ALL SHARE, THAT'S DIVINE BEAUTY. IF EVERYBODY SHOW THEIR LOVE SHOW THEIR WORTH SHOW THEIR INTENT SHOW THEIR PARTICIPATION OR WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE
Black Tax does not mean this in the African American community. The Black Tax in America means that we have to pay higher prices and go through extra hurdles to get certain deals that everyone else gets “just because.” It is known as attempt to cause Black Americans to receive less than everyone else! We see what you are talking about in today’s discussion is known as a type financial abuse of family members or family culture. You may end up being used by family members who have never done much for you but they expect you to automatically enrich them. Real financial wealth is supposed to come from wise responsible elders who took care of business before you. This gets passed “down” in financially healthy families not “up.” You may help your elderly if you are younger and they are older but they should be passing wealth on to the younger generations, not the other way around!
I really appreciate your well conceived and concisely crafted statement, because everything that you have stated is true.
However, there are also many of us here, in America, who have leeching relatives who harbor a sense of entitlement and who treat their children and more affluent relatives as though they're walking ATMs and who use shaming and pity ploys to extract money from those children and relatives.
It took me decades to conclude that the grifting would never end, unless I put my foot down and interrupted the cycle of abuse.
When you say black folks have to pay higher prices, are you referring to credit and interest rates?
@@shellsopinion5837 I cannot speak for the other brother.
However, from my personal experience, I believe that he means we are paying an inordinate amount in comparison to our Anglo counterparts.
@@shellsopinion5837 He who makes the gold, makes AND benefits most from those rules.
Others (Mzungus) make the rules/laws and economic policies and rates of exchange, which enable them to remain in control of our economies and throughout the world. 🌍
Lots of horrific stories regarding this topic on internet. Look after your self first.
The opposite of the Black Tax is American style Selfish Individualism. Me,me,me,me fu!* Everyone else, I need my LV, Proda, and other material things.
And whats wrong with individualism if it works for you
@kenganda Oshay & Joanita, please check your business email. I just emailed you guys. I’m coming to Uganda. With love from Los Angeles
this is oshay I don't check the business email but our staff will respond in kind.
125 watching get the likes up dam it
If you are a grow up man and people impose there bs on you there is no remorse for u if u accept there bs.. What ever a mature man a accept to adopt on is nobody's business😂😂😂me am not going to do that
One of south African president has 35 children. Yep! All south Africans pay higher Texas. At this poin international antties are runing SA. 10:03
Stop lying.
what are you calling middle class? $ 400,000.00 is middle class. Who is !
Black american men do have a black tax... Its call child support, and it can start as young as 15 years old..LOL🤣🤣🤣
And dont get behide on it or it can take you 50 years or more to be done with it.
The Ugandan man in the middle is too quiet. I prefer your other hosts. Where is the British Caribbean guy? Or the Ugandan American man. This guy seems as if he is struggling to add anything to the conversation.
Stop complaining and embrace your culture. I am well educated and happy to help my immediate family and that is the nuclear family. Brothers and sisters and parents deserve help once a while not a monthly stipend. If a brother or sister wants to start a business and you can help then you should.
Other cultures like Latinos, Indians do it everyday. And they are still successful. Now when it gets to extended family like cousins etc that’s up to individual choice and how deep your pockets are.
Culture my foot. Just coz everyone is jumping off a cliff doesnt mean you should. The only animal i know that does that is a SHEEP
@@kaykay5605 Have you lost your marbles. Plenty of people around the world help their families. Damn, in some countries if you marry a woman you are obligated to help her family. The world does not have to live by the selfish , me me me, Western standards. If you dont like it dont do it, let the Africans , Indians, Filipinos, Mexicans and a whole lot of others who enjoy supporting their families and relatives do it. Its not coming out of your pocket, so none of your business, move on. And if you dont like just dont marry anyone from that culture.
I'm sorry but other races don't have such a level of entitlement to other people's money.
Also if this is how we choose to live then accept poverty as people. Communism has never generated wealth
Jonnita I understand what ur saying my only issue is why are y'all calling this a "Black Tax"??? This is an African Tax forced upon ur own African Ppl by African Ppl!! Black Folks don't do this in US..This is an African Issue..and it's highly misleading to claim it's Black ANYTHING??? I don't care how much y'all now claiming Blackness..fact is Africans aren't Black Ppl..That's Y'all BS..Not Black Folks..🤔
Black Americans definitely do this. So many stories of people having to look after the household because they were the first to leave the hood. It does happen there too.
@@Tripleexel No it does not.. Now I can't speak for what goes on in Negroid Immigrant households here in America but in BA households the rule is/was when you turn 18yr either u must be holding down a 9-5 or going to college to remain in ur parents home. So why are u spreading this Lie???
@@ericboswell8863Gabrielle Union even spoke about this for example. Can't argue with you on facts ignoring how many blacks take govt assistance
@@Tripleexel Yet Not a BLACK TAX?? African Children shamed into leaving thier countries and guilted into sending loot back home to support African Families..BAs don't engage in this behavior..🤬🤣🖕