Rotrex Supercharged Civic Rips!!! Over 400hp stock engine!
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- čas přidán 1. 10. 2019
- Harley cruises by with his rotrex powered civic Si and decides to switch to e85. This k20z now features some over drive pulleys. Join us now as we test his experiment and see how much power we can make and test the durability of his worm clamps that hold his couplers together.
We are so grateful you guys join us. Let’s goo.
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I don't think Brent has met a rev limiter that he didn't like...👍
Personally (wish PFI were closer) would want my tuner banging the limiter while dialing everything in, don't know if there's some knock issue up there till ya play around with it. I know I'm 2 years late but very much relevant to me now, K24 just finished blueprinting at the machine shop, thinking ahead
Some of your cropping made it hard to see what you were doing but you could tell the overall recording quality was better. Loving the effort Brent. You're the friggin man. Learning so much from you and staying entertained at the same time. You talking about how you visualize the fuel and air mixing on their way in is the sort of "thinking out loud" that is worth its weight in gold.
Man everytime I watch a dyno video I get pumped, straight pumped. Even more so when I see these cars hit the track. You're bringing the energy to the track that enthusiasts need to have to build their cars. Do it right. Make em great. Stoke man, I'm purely stoked when I see what yall accomplish with these builders.
I like seeing repeat customers. Especially with different builds or coming back to refresh the tune. Quality content
You guys have the best coolest attitude for cars guys i ever been around or watched regardless of any situation great people to watch and learn from thanks!
I have my kraftwerks kit sitting in my room right now I cant wait to put it on!!!!! I been waiting for ever to see 8th gen stuff on the channel!! I know there was one b4
Awesome finally get to see my build on here wish I lived close to u Brent about to drive out from new york
The T bolt clamps are great.
Off topic, but we do electric motor controls here in South Africa.
One year in winter I was a railway yard during a spell following snow and they were complaining that the loco shunting wagon was giving hassles.
We found the wires around the power dump resistor tube had snapped on one spot due to the frost.
I got them to bring me a clamp as I know they have as rail cars have vacuum lines and steam lines which use clamps.
Bridged out the break on the tube with a clamp and we were running again.
That loco shunter is still running like that.
Yea, just a bit of trivia to share on clamps.
That Honda had a super linear power curve, he builds it right!
Thanks for sharing B, we love you folks!
been watching for years and still finding gems I haven't seen yet. best channel on CZcams
When I see a PFI vid notification can't help but smile. Good job as always.
Favorite part of my day is when I get to watch a PFI video! Keep on killing it guys! And as always see you tomorrow!
Thanks for all the videos pfi!!
That civic rips.....that was awesome. Thanks for the new vid, I am always looking forward to the next one!! Have a SicSix6 kind of day.
I love seeing Brent tune! Thanks for the insight and please keep these videos coming 🙌
My god I love a supercharged K series ...the linear power delivery is bananas !!
Love that i can see the changes made.
I like when he said "that sucker was moving" yet its strapped in one spot 😂😂😂😂😭😭
Dude Brent and the PFI team are some kick ass dudes!
Wow I never had faith in a supercharger setup with a 4 cylinder cause it takes power to make power but brent proves me wrong again. Great bolt on setup right thurr son! Another happy pfi customer!
I am less than 2 minutes in and I must say , Brent looks really well rested. , I may comment more later.
Ive been wanting a supercharged video forever from you guy's and finally got it. Super chargers may rob power to spin em up but the torqe and power right now is worth it and they sound great as well. Thanks for another great video.
That's why turbos are as good as they are these days. The technology has advanced greatly and are able to get more power out of smaller turbos now because their efficiency is so much better than it was in previous years
Yeah ever since the Garrett GT series was introduced there is not much reason to run a supercharged setup unless you REALLY have a soft spot for transient response.
With the boost curve of a centrifugal supercharger I don't know about having torque right now. But a positive displacement supercharger sure will give you that.
James Smith tong isn’t running a CT though he’s running a bigger, better, more expensive TVS now. The centrifugal chargers like these rotrex are far easier to install as well.
Larry Lampshade Garrett GT’s suck compared to the new Borgwarner EFR series, the EFR’s response is much better (best in class by far), and they spool a lot quicker due to newer technology and lighter more durable materials used. The EFR of a slightly smaller size spooled up 1200 rpm sooner then a Garrett GTX3076R and made 50 more whp at peak then the Garrett could on a FD RX7, again, it was SMALLER then the Garrett, made more power and torque... it also beat the Precision by 900 rpm and made higher peak numbers...
That thing would be a blast! Power curve looks so usable. Sounds great and love how hard it bangs rev limiter too haha _POP POP POP_
As always keep up the amazing work all of my PFI friends.
the new set up is rooooling fooks
Brent is out there touching rev limiters like a Televangelist healing people...lol
Praise k-sus!
Touching rev limiter like Joe Biden touches little kids :D
Brent you are all up in the comments of the new 1320 FWD video....the people are chanting your name for The Bully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh it’s time !
Awesome little tune vid. Lov watch ya work your magic Brent... PFiSpeed/BoostedBoiz Rcks! 🤜🤛😎🔰🔰🔰💪
I'd like to see a video that goes or continues from the time he backed it out , to the that 1st left or right on to payment and that 1st pull, a outside view and His inside expression.
That's when you know if it's way better, that 1st Grin !! I like the fact you all have a good time even when the Car's are messing with You.
Vern M they did that in previous videos. Idk why they stopped
@@Frangulate I missed that one , just seems as a whole they don't do that or I'm missing the owners Video of the 1st drive, Brent and Crew do a Great Job!
I remember watching kraftwerks promo video and seeing OG dr. charles on it. Thats when I knew that supercharger was built right. Anything dr. charles touches is platinum.
Those rotrex cars sound so damn good
I have a 2010 Civic Si. Have been waiting for you to tune one of these kits!! Now I want one real bad!!!!
Same here! 2011 dyno blue FA5. I want one bad now
@@all2envyms3 still got ur fa5?
Great job guys wish I lived closer so I could have you guys tune my cobalt
Right on time for my lunch break.
thats a badass lil setup, definitely a sleeper
killer pull at the end!
Awesome, I've always wondered about supercharged Honda's. Looking forward to this...
Loved the new Dyno set-up video yesterday btw Brent, must be nice to see the effort you spent cutting out all that concrete pay off.
See alot of these in the UK especially on the fn2 and ep3 civic must cheaper than a turbo set up here.
@@beany1987 That explains a lot, I'm from the UK too. I think here it's about the ease of fitment, less welding therefore easier to do on the driveway. Ha, we have smaller houses and less space here. Plus some stricter laws and high insurance costs.
@@thisismossop yes things are alot more expensive here like the welding, dyno price range is £120 hour or $150 dollars that without a diagnostics fee is anything is wrong with your car.
@@beany1987 I bought a handheld scanner when I had my BMW, it wasn't cheap for a BMW specific one, but it saved me £450 the first time. Labour rates here might be higher too. Our cheapest high street garages are around $100 an hour.
That day was such a blast! Thanks guys!!
Is this your vehicle?
Daniel Harrell I wish!! I was just the tow pig that brought it down to Colorado and spent the day.
@@Yoman1562 that is still cool tho I would love to hang out there be a fly on the wall
That’s exactly what I was. Lol. It was so cool to see them work their magic in person.
@@Yoman1562 what would you say stood out the most that we don't see on the videos? Is it always positive attitudes and smiles or is there somethings we don't see?
i find supercharged 4 cyl fascinating, ive own an evo with 400hp but this is way cool, and that graph id dope! awsome vid
owned* ....... derp
Every day is great day when PFI Speed posts a video! Thanks Brent and crew for the "boost" in my day...
See what I did there?
Eye see 😉
Just felt VTEC kick in with that ♥️ and comment
That limiter hit is violent
p.s i love when you guys sneak in pull clips at the end! its like the icing on the cake
831vtc t2 I couldn’t of said it better
MEE TOO BROTHER
Can’t wait to bring my 06 SI turbo to you guys.
Awesome video boss. 450hp and instant torque, just yummy. 🤘♥️ We all need some of that goodness. 😎👍
As for me, another day of research and weighing up those options while taking off 30yrs of rust on what's left of the suspension here. Circumstances here are forcing my hand to go a certain direction with Crustida as a combination of ignorant suppliers locally (asked a shop about their 1J intake manifold and no response 😡) and limited choices are putting me into a corner...I'm running out of options here guys and I'm getting frustrated because of it. Things don't look good for old Maf this week...😐
MafiaboysWorld Maf that’s no good mate !!! Yeah I will look for a 1j intake manifold as I found some recently while looking for one for the starlet 😜👍🇦🇺
@@gemini3558 Nah, don't worry bro. There's another one that's almost same price but that's not my main problem. It's the transmission control limiting my ECU choice and everything else along the path and blowing the budget straight out the window. The advantage the boys have by having the Haltech 2500 is killing me right now and I'm not willing to spend $5K+ for an equal solution.
as usual it is great to see another PFI Speed video. Love that last clip of the two cars. Everyone forgets that Mexico is so green during the rain season. Keep up the great work Brent!
Saucery is the trusted way to superpowers!
This is a certified sleeper 👌
Nice, I wonder if there’s enough room in the engine compartment for a twin charger system
Nice to see some more 8th gens on the channel!
Supercharger has been growing onto me!!
Cant wait to see the first vid with the new dyno software
Working on it now
freaking killing it man
Just started the video but I'm hype! I've been trying to get a Rotrex setup built for 5 years now, looking forward to seeing how this goes. Gonna be good with Brent tunin'!
Edit: awesome numbers for a stock block. Would have liked to have seen some discussion of the supercharger, that's a very unique system.
I have my kraftwerks kit sitting in my room waiting to get put on. I cant frickin wait till I put it on!!
@@fg2_sc718 update on the supercharger? (:
Siiick. Sounds mean. That little shot at the end, hahaha.
@PFI Speed
Dyno sauce = 3M Spray Adhesive?
That civic rips Bro
I know it's not always possible, but I love seeing the end result runs! #doapull
Ya gotta love the multiple different uses for the "Good Ole PFI Dyno Sauce" Lol. I bet it would work really well to make the rubber/coupler stick/hold a lil better. I would think. Don't you think my PFI friends?
I'm hoping with the new dyno upgrade, we can finally see both TQ and HP graphs per pull. It will be interesting to see how the TQ curve of a blower differs from that of a turbo at the same peak HP.
@Sergio Aguirre I know that....I was to see it during the videos.
Pretty sweet ride
So Brent, you didn't push the timing maps with the conversion of E85?? thanks, great vid!
Dude. Sho nuff is so close. Please make the push to make the last T n T of the season!
ive never been one to think of Honda's as a good "standard" engine, here I am with Brent proving me wrong HAHA, I was waiting for a BANG 460hp is in my opinion huge for a stock civic ^^
@Sergio Aguirre indeed, but I didn't think the stock internals would handle such high HP, I would of thought 400hp would be the top end before catastrophic destruction begins. Like my M5 can safely go to 550-575hp but after 600hp I need to line the cylinder heads or BANG! and my M5 E39 is 550hp atm ;)
Nice that’s looking sick man he’ll yea
Love the sleeper look of that car but the blow off gives it away.
Hope you guys are all doing good, glad you guys are climbing in followers. Love it. Cheers Guys.
Man what timing. I was just looking at Rotrex to supercharge my lifted wagon. I need that down low grunt for hill climbs, they look like a pretty wicked kit!
@Sergio Aguirre ah! Thanks for the info. I'm researching a bit for the winter tear down.
@Sergio Aguirre yup that's what I'm reading. My wagon is running a DOHC ZC, it actually isn't too bad but I'm ready to bump it up. I'm on large tires as well.
@Sergio Aguirre I have a very odd... Build 😄go watch find of my wagon videos of you get a chance. I can fab up a manifold adapter. I know the ZC head is a weird one. Thanks again for the info. This is exactly the questions I had.
@Sergio Aguirre Exactly. I do a lot of hill climbs will my civic. I need an instant torque under the curve to get those big wheels spinning. They're a 30" mud tire 😄
@Sergio Aguirre Depending on what route I go, depends on if I'll build the motor. I just realistically need 50-100 ft lbs of torque more. Nothing crazy for what I'm doing.
I had a rotrex. Lasted about 3 weeks before the turbine shaft sheared off. Common fault on hondas apparently the rotrex doesn’t like banging off the limiter.
an04ker exactly correct. Has to have a soft limiter.
What should i set mine to then?
Amazing machine ....!
Very cool ride
I love you guys!!
good stuff man.. makin me wanna turbo my stock k24 LOL
What clutch you guys recommend that wont hurt the thrust bearing on the engine but still puts the power down?
Hell ya brother. Da Ba Da Ba Daaa Basssss. Da Bassss.... lol reminds me of those old school awesome Bass Cd's they uses to make/sell lol. I use to bump them shits way back in the old days a lot of people might not remember way back then in the 1900's lol. I had a bad ass MTX bass Cd in like 1998-1999. The making of the Cd was made after the old times of the cassette tape lol. Some of yas might not have ever had a cd player in there car or even bought a cd from some classic spots like Tower Records or maby Strawberry's lol.
that little super charger is dope, they should offer an upgraded cog belt pulley to eliminate the belt slip.
they do but for the s2000
PiterStreak I bet pfi and the boosted bois can modify it to work for their application
That's alot of power for that feather weight civic
Nice to see a change from all the turbo' engines ;-)
Was this with the dyno' upgrade?
Not yet . This was just before
@@PFIBrent I noticed that, but who cares... Now we see why it was imperative to upgrade! Looking forward to the new content! : )
Wow on stock?!! So just a changed pulley??!! What size pulley and belt did that guy use?
Brother I appreciate you showing your expertise. Was wondering if you can show a k20 turbo hondata tune basics please?! Maybe you have some vids already, not sure I just joined your channel. God bless you brother thanks.
Mnnnnn supercharged 4 cyls. So good.
I like you commentary..."next one" haha..master tuner mentality..
not often you can see a procharged civic 🤘
Been wanting Brent to tune a k series kraftwerks rotrex supercharger
Grip-tek for those pulleys would help out a bunch on these!
When men stand around with their arms crossed talking about the car they just build. BELIEVE them fellas are proud of that car!
You guys could make your own "Dyno Sauce" and like a branded product. It would be epic
Zrclle any idea what it consists of?
@@larrylampshade1734 Dried up coke and super glue
@@overclockeverything2310 Diet Coke works better cause it uses sweet and low as a substitute for sugar which breaks down to natural 🍯 honey, Then you add 4-5 drops of Goo Gone™ (The real stuff and not the stuff those Alaskan Eskimos use...No disrespect to igloos) bring that mixture to a boil over medium high heat until it bubbles and you feel like your floating!!! At this point you are almost there and are high for free (BONUS). Let this concoction cool down to room temp for as long as it takes at which point you just go grab some hair spray or 3m spray adhesive and spray the tire for (Dyno Sauce)... I'm not sure what all that other stuff I was writing before is gonna do. I'm out.
Bleach
@@smooth_ops2942 🤣🤣🤣
Good stuffs y'all
Gotta love those rotrex! Bolting on their biggest on my V6 soon. Stock, 235whp..with the rotrex C38R-112, 700+whp 💪
So did it ever get on there?.... cause your stock number is more.the crank numbers and youre being very optimistic w 700 lol
@@amordeweso no the built motor took a crap as it was my first time building a motor myself. Currently making 460whp on 8 psi on a stock motor. That supercharger is more than capable of 700whp. And my stock 235whp was bolt ons with a tune. More than capable on a 3.5l v6
@@PiterStreak lol "stock" was with bolt ons bruhhh 💀💀☠💀
@@amordeweso the j series stock can make 235whp or more depending on which j series and drivetrain. Hell I never specified which V6. A Nissan vq, same story. Idk what you're getting at
@@PiterStreak what I'm getting at.....is it don't matter which engine you're talking about......STOCK doesn't mean bolt ons lmfaooo.....STOCK means stock nothing touched 💀💀💀💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡🤡
Damn, the boost comes on quick with this supercharger, sweet numbers
That is kind of the point of a supercharger. Instant boost.
@@Mr15hz And simplicity/bolt on. from my limited experience Superchargers are real nice, elegant reliable power, but Turbo's seem to be good for 200 more hp a lot of times.
@@marshalcraft Not true. They did a head to head competition between supercharger and turbo down at Summernats in January. They both produced just shy of 3000hp @ the hubs!! 😈🤘
@@MafiaboysWorld well from theoretical point of view they aren't the same, a supercharger robs horsepower to compress air, while a turbo uses wasted energy to do it, so plane and simple a Turbo in theory is completely more efficient then a super charger. But seems turbos' are very touchy and what not while super charger is geared and has to work. So maybe in practice they end up being the same but, the fact is the turbo uses energy from the hot exhaust that is otherwise thrown away. The Supercharger takes rotational energy from the crank shaft and pistons, which otherwise goes out to the wheels. So like I said that is theory, and in practice that might mean nothing or even supercharger is better. They always use suerpchargers in drag racing so, there has to be some benefits to them maybe that I am unaware of, or it could be they are just simpler and they use that.
@@marshalcraft Thankyou for engineering 101, was not needed as I'm not 12. 🤦 The point being made was that at a similar boost level, they produce the same overall horsepower numbers taking into effect the parasitic loss that the massive 14/71 blower causes. 👍 I'll get the video. 😎
finally more videos
Max i seen in my area was a rsx s 521whp
He was beating 700hp corvettes and gtrs!!
Beast!
Gotta love DOHC Honda's my K24a2 swapped FG2 puts down with V8's 😂
@@dangusprime got a fg2 as well 9200 redline allmotor z3 im right there too haha!removed 400pds changes everything!last week took a full bolt on brand new sti let him launch ahead came back half a car ahead of him.
Im back into bikes less money for the thrill 🤪
@@upnorthviking823 nice man!! The Z3 is still a great engine, I had one for the first couple of years! I think I would go supercharge in the K20z3 and Turbo for K24a2, but I'm a BoostedBoi.
I just figured out my small top end misfire issue last night and Wow this car throws you back when you put your foot down, and it's not even boosted yet 😂
@@dangusprime the wife dont like it now does not want the kids in it lmao!!!i bought 2 bikes for the price of a turbokit.a 2007ninja 636 and a 250r to keep costs down.plates here are 1500$/yr for 600cc+.
Thinking of swapping the complete bike onto the 250r loll like i used to do w cars 😂if i did an odyssey into a fit think ill manage hahaha
So was that a C30-94 or C38-92 Rotrex? Very nice.. I have one on my Saturn SKY and love it to death.
Is there an upgraded version of the Rotrex head for 06 si that doesn’t break down as easy as the original?
That power curve is almost a straight line. You don't see that everyday.
If anyone notices the Dyno graph. Wow...that is nice linear power.
TTS PERFORMANCE in the UK been rotrex supercharging for over 10 years doing Honda and other things even bikes..
JAM-SPORT do all the ford stuff..
Seen the old Honda type r easy make over 450 on stock engine with rotrex chargers..
You guys should get some old fire hose to put over your tie down straps to protect them.
Last part of the video, blue civic says... seeeeeee yeahhhhhhh
You could draw that powercurve with a ruler. Never seen one so linear.
What year is that civic I know some came with k20a2 and k24 motors,my 2002 honda integra k20a made 245 just tuned basically no turbo
Hell Yeah guys!!!