He Failed Up Again
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- Roberto Martinez has a unique ability to be a manager nobody is every really happy with that continues to get jobs in the world of football that should be well beyond his reach. He is a manager with the rare ability to just act like he belongs at the top levels of the game while having done very little to earn his place there initially.
I didn’t know all of that when I started researching this video, but my goodness is Roberto Martinez a surprise as the new coach of Portugal considering his amount of experience and success compared to other managers around the world. There must have been more qualified applicants, but noone can match Roberto’s enthusiasm!
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It's like the people in the portuguese federation just like to see us, portuguese people, suffer. How we go from Fernando Santos to Fernandez Santos just blows my mind
I really don't get it, it's so dumb. We went from a manager that lost 1-0 to Morocco to a manager that lost 2-0 to Morocco 💀💀💀
If they wanted to go for an international manager, at least go for someone known for being good, so many available managers at the time. I can't really understand how people in the federation think
What you talking about atleast you don't have Southgate lol. We the English suffer the most.
@@mandyretter8964 True we got a euros with our former manager
@@migran6346 we get a spitting image reject lol
@Tomás Matos sven!
He is the Alvaro Morata of managers
At least Morata scores...
The Chupo Mouting of Managers
As a wigan fan I've often wondered what people see in him. He was flavour of the month in the early 2010s but was easily over taken quite quickly. People seemed happy to trade "better football" for Premier league stability but 10 years on I wonder if people would. That being said, my heart will always have a special place for him and I wouldn't trade winning the fa cup for anything
I would take back at swansea
He will always be one of our three amigos and the guy that led us to the FA Cup. Don't care what else he's done.
The only tournament RM had with Belgium that was in their ‘golden generation’ was 2018. They finished 3rd, going out to France. Since then the players have all dropped off and aged, poor defenders, hazard not what he was and Lukaku also hitting a stagnant stage. I don’t see where the failure is?
@@AdamC172 Well to be considered a good manager, you would expect him to mask those flaws a lot better. Besides, in 2021 Belgium was definitely considered a contender. He had De Buyne who was the best midfielder in the world, Lukaku who had just won the Serie A as Inter's best player, Mertens who was still in his prime, Witsel, Carrasco, Meunier, Tielemans and Thorgan Hazard who all played at the level just below the absolute top (clubs like Dortmund, Leicester, and Atleti), Courtois who was considered one if not the best goalkeeper in the world and Alderweireld and Vertonghen who were still good (especially Alderweireld). You can definitely blame him for that tournament. Even in Qatar, their quality on paper was definitely not worse than Morocco or Canada, yet they performed like that. In comparison, Japan has almost no big names and showed their quality in every match (except Costa Rica). Martínez has never overachieved in his managerial career and we generally do not hold any manager who cannot do that in high regard. So your point is invalid and I think you need to work on your knowledge.
he stablised all of these squads that had no cash, and then won an fa cup with a team that should have been relegated seasons ago, these stats don't tell the financial problems all these teams had
Agree with all of this. However it can't be understated how massive an achievement it is winning the FA Cup with Wigan and for that reason I think the Everton move at the time was warranted.
Yes, but winning a cup is not a proof of quality. Because, you could win because of an exceptionnal momentum of the team. (I'm French, I saw Nantes and Kombouare won the Cup the last year, and I still dont know how, because I know Nantes and Kombouare since years and I know that if they won it in FM I did just say "Well, not so realistic game..")
@@vincesalamander5980 Wigan got relegated days after the FA Cup win but I'm impressed how well he managed them in the Premier League.
not only that - thats how he became a 'tournament' coach - which is what everyone missess
@@vincesalamander5980 like this guy
As a miserable Swansea City fan… In the early 2000’s, Roberto Martinez brought exciting possession based football to the club - and arguably the first time that style of football was introduced to the English lower leagues (“Success” in lower league EFL back then was measured by how much you could kick the ****** out of your opponent)… so he was radical at the time, in a good way.
Dubbed “Swansealona” and “The Swansea Way” by fans - the philosophy has never really left the club. See Michael Laudrup’s managerial success when Swansea were in the prem - with Michu, Chico, Angel Rangel, Bony etc.
Unfortunately, nowadays “possession” football has been found out… So Swansea is a stagnant, Championship club - losing games constantly, but celebrating its 80% possession stats…
Me to bud me to
we aren't doing bad Russell Martins football would be similar if the club actually gave him some players to continue it
I still remember pundits gushing over Leon Britton's ball retention lmao
@@Ovcas It’s mediocre football, and Martin never learns from his mistakes. There’s no involvement by owners etc. that’s true… but the resources which are at the club are being mismanaged by Martin.
Also it seems local, football journalists and fans of the club are completely ignoring the fact that some pretty promising players at the club just aren’t happy - they refuse to play! Whittaker, Paterson and Obafemi aren’t playing. Whilst we can deffo blame the players, it points to a wider issue with Swansea too.
Tiki taka is dead. Only Pep knows how to implement it properly but even he can’t win the championship league. Spain were an absolute embarrassment at the World Cup so yeah your right, that whole style is no longer viable against top opposition that are well organised
I expected him to be the new Wales manager considering Page's inexperience and repeated poor tactical decisions and Martinez's links to Wales, but when I saw him land at Portugal I was baffled.
I can't blame Rob page he tried with a ageing wales team 1-1 against the USA 2 looses 2-0 Iran victory and 3-0 England win
Honestly Page has done alright, just wish he had more faith in attackers who aren't Gareth Bale. We lost the ability to frustrate better teams, which really came out at the World Cup, but we've qualified for 3 of the last 4 major tournaments, which is more than my entire childhood watching Robbie Earnshaw flounder any time a half-decent defender came near him.
Greatest of all time in job interviews
i'm an everton fan. he is absolutely horrific. We sacked him because defensively, he is an absolute joke. i have no idea to this day if he even does any defensive coaching. the straw that broke the camels back with us was being 3 nil up against bournemouth with 10 minutes left and losing 4-3.and to be given the Belgium job after that? I was stunned? We aren't world beaters, I freeely admit that, but to be given that job straight after? after how massively flawed he looked for us?!! just, what?
@@mattjames6349 yeah he sucks as a coach i dont get it, how does he do it man
Nah his agent must be the goat
@@GarkKahn we sacked him at Everton . How? Just how from there ?
@@mattjames6349 was three all draw that boyrnemouth game though yer right on him being against defending lol. also the teams fitness levels were terrible
A legend at Wigan for his player and managerial stint. We beat lots of the big teams and of course defied any odds and expectations to win the FA Cup. Our relegation was inevitable.
The Everton job was pretty much lined up for him having rejected Aston Villa amongst others while at Wigan. Lukaku was huge for him at Everton.
Watch him get the Barcelona job one day.
Fellow Belgian here. He did do wonders for the overall organisation of our national football, made it all very professional. Good person too, civil and polite, and he did achieve our best finish ever at the World Cup. However, his refusal to change tactics or experiment with lineups really cost us in the years that followed.
Didn't Belgium reach the semi final in 1986? So 2018 can't be your best finish ever.
Yep. His stubbornness was his worst trait in the Belgian national team. We have some decent talent that he just never fully utilized.
Fellow Belgian here. He should have been a spokesman. He's an incompetent clown as a manager.
this is the perfect example of stats can lie... he's a brilliant manager which is why he has been hired at portugal
With a better manager Belgium could've won atleast 1 world cup imagine if Belgium had a manager like scoloni
He was TD of the Belgian FA next to his job as head coach of the NT as well.
All other coaches in the Belgian youth NT and female NT are super enthousiastic about him. Apparently he was always open to advise them and help promote the "lesser known" national teams such as for example our womens team.
He was also known to attend even the smallest of events like opening new pitches in the sunday leagues etc in order to make football as popular as possible.
Next to that i also believe he started a project which made it possible for smaller amateur clubs without big budgets to have access to camera and video reviewing equipment in order to film and analyze their trainings, youth evolution etc.
I get where you're coming from. I'm Belgian. Euro 2020, the final four loss vs France after being 2-0 up at half time and especially this WC definitely hurt me bad and left a very sour taste in my mouth. But i'd like to believe he left our football in general in a way better state than we were before he came to Belgium. We're a small nation and we were lucky to have had a whole talented generation in stead of a few single spots with good players but the work he's done here gives hope for more in the future. Maybe we'll bounce back, maybe we won't but the foundation to do so has been laid. The rest is luck.
But all of that doesn't mean he was a good manager tho...Sure, he did alot for Belgian football, but so did other people. We have been working on our league, youth structure, facilities etc... Ever since the early 2000's, so it's not just because of Martinez.
As a coach, he was stubborn. Barely gave new/young players a real chance and he didn't change his tactics.
He was decent overall. Definitely not bad, but not great either. He did his job until 2019, after that, we should have appointed someone else. Now we need someone who wil focus on rebuilding and experimenting with new/young players.
I am Belgian and I think the Roberto Martinez hate is often (too) harsh. While it tends to annoy people, he brought a smaller footballing country to the 1st place in FIFA rankings and kept us there several years. Could’ve realistically won a world cup as the france game could’ve gone either way. Belgium played the best football of any other country in 2018 and he knew exactly what he was doing. Amazingly consistent in qualifying while developing our small generation and being a gentleman. Lowkey Euro 2021 we had the chance of doing something with tiny more luck against italy. Long story short he deserves credit and shouldn’t be remembered for the last 1-2 years were refusing to adapt led to this downfall.
@thecitizens4773 taken right from a Belgium fan.
True regarding the france game but at the same time his luck had already ran out after the brazil and Japan game. The win over Japan was legendary but let's be honest only because Martinez failed that game in the first half. In the second half he was lucky to be able to bring in Fellaini and use his height and power against the shorter Japanese players, which is basically a trademark Wilmots move who we all know is one of the worst belgian managers of all time.
There probably is something to him being great at interviews. I'm an Everton supporter and remember his stint with us well, and he always came off as a very likeable and sympathetic person in front of the cameras and when interacting with the local community. Sacking him was kinda like sacking a friend; you know it had to be done cause he didn't do his job well enough, but sucks it had to happen to such a nice person.
His first season being so good is often being attributed to him inheriting a solid defensive formation from Moyes and then adding some attacking flair to it, and the following regression from that original defense being phased out in favor of his own system. Came off as very inflexible. He always forced his particular system and never reacted or tried to change things in response to the opposition or the latest result.
As a Portuguese fan I was so disappointed with the federations choice. You said it best when you pointed out we are replacing a bland, boring and uninspiring coach with another. One of our biggest problems has been the feeling that we are throwing a golden generation away, and the next thing I know is we are getting an expert in throwing golden generations away.
Its a shame that Portugal has a treasure like Mou who can create a winning mentality but Portugal Football Federation isn't appointing him
Undoubtedly a successful manager in his early years. To continue to keep Wigan afloat who were by far the smallest fish in there at the time, and transform Swansea from league one to promotion contenders in the championship are great achievements.
You say that it's a great achievement to keep Wigan afloat in the Prem but as proved from this video, they were there for 4 seasons prior and actually finished 11th before he took over.
@@xretcyvbnimo So, they were punching well above the weight for many seasons, had key players that eventually left. Still an overachievement
@@xretcyvbnimo tell us you know nothing about Premier League football without telling us.
@@Franatomy Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. This did make me laugh. Thank you.
@@xretcyvbnimo laugher is a good coping mechanism! You're welcome!
Belgium at the WC was always the obvious "disappointment" to me. It's hard to say why, but it was basically a given to me Morocco would get an "upset" against them as counterintuitive as it sounds
I actually think Morocco generally faced some very fortunate opponents. Obviously they were good teams, but them and Portugal in particular had no game plan and no "bite", just some of the best players in the world and vibes, which is why a team as spirited and defensively cohesive tore them to shreds. France and Argentina, even the Netherlands, Brazil, Croatia and England would rinse them 8/10 times
20/20 Hindsight. Nobody gave Morocco a chance prior to facing any of these teams.
Croatia reached the semis winning 1 game out of 5 with 2 penalty shoot-outs, England beat nobody other than Iran and Senegal... but yes, they would "rinse" Morocco 😒
He's an icon for us at Swansea :D
That's why he got the managerial position at the Swans, and started our football philosophy , the thing that really changed us and help us get to the prem
It's easy to overlook the Swansea changes and positive things he has done. Must be well respected to be given roles he's been given.
As a portuguese and knowing Roberto Martinez's career I was stunned with his appointment. With so many great portuguese managers out there and Van Gaal saying he was keen to take the job (if I'm not mistaken I heard he lives in algarve) the choice made was really odd. Maybe we can win the euros again and then crash out of the world cup group stages
Wow didn't know Van Gaal was keen to take Portugal.
Choosing Martinez over Van Gaal is one of the worst decisions ever in human history.
Good to see an American with a Vitória de Guimarães shirt, I'm impressed that an American has such ball knowledge. Keep up the good work
It is impressive how he fails upwards 😂
He's falling off to the sky lol
The Ed Wood of football managers
Look i dont trust most people who are life coaches or motivational speakers but if Roberto Martinez wrote a book on how to succeed id but it in an instant. Man clearly knows interviews
If you only look back at his table positions, you can definitely come to this conclusion. But if you were a fan of PL at this time and watched a lot of clubs like Swansea and Wigan, you would understand his greatness. He was the first to establish Swansea as a very interesting possession team, he developed Leon Britton into a PL player (with the help of Rodgers, of course).
The fact that he managed to win the FA cup with Wigan is almost a greater achievement than when Leicester won the PL, check how Wigan was managed at this time, it wasn't like they where going around and buying established players around Europe that people had a good eye on, Wigan were really poor by PL standards, even for that time. His time at Everton was not a failure either.
He took over from Moyes who had run a somewhat primitive tactic (very successful) and then as at Swansea established a more playing football, certainly bigger wins did not happen but it was not a failure, at least not for the neutral spectator. His "failure" in Belgium is simply that expectations were set too high. Yes, a couple of really fine attacking players at a very high level, but it wasn't like Spain, England, Germany, Holland, Italy etc etc didn't have this too.
A bigger failure could instead be said that Erik Hamren did with the Swedish national team, he managed to miss far too many championships and he had Zlatan.
To say that he only fails upwards is very harsh. This man has worked his way up from Leauge One to get this chance, to think he doesn't know what he's doing shows more of the difference between coaching a football team in fm and coaching a team in real life.
With all that said...love you Zealand, you are the best! I just like mr martinez :)
It has parallels to a La Liga situation at Eibar with the end of Jose Mendilibar at Eibar after 6 years of low budget where Eibar went 18th (saved by Elche finance insolvency), 4 years of mid table under Mendilibar, then dead last.
Edit: As in if the roster's too old or plagued by injuries, the lack of budget sinks a Eibar or Wigan into relegation.
He's worked on ESPN's World Cup coverage and I was always really impressed with him. My guess is that he comes in and nails the interview because he's well spoken and charismatic
BROOOOOOOO I'm from Portugal and follow you a couple years already, and then I open a video and there u are with a shirt from my club (and hometown). U made my day! thanks man, keep the good work!
martinez' swansea side had a very recognizable style in england
it had an interesting reach of influence, we even saw some shades of it in brendan rodgers' early liverpool stint
i dont think national team management is as attractive as club management
The league one season we won the game because no one could take the ball off us 🥳🥳🥳🤣🤣
Anyone that can fail up has my respect. Thats a rare skill.
As a German, I can confirm that Japan is nearly unbeatable.
Diversity dosn't win after all
@@zapre2284 🙊
Zea, your reaction was exactly the same as the one from all Portuguese football fans.
I can sort of understand his career as a club manager. It's his career as a national team manager that puzzles me more, to this day I still wonder how he got the Belgium job, and what made the Belgium FA offer it to him in the first place.
I appreciate that you used a Portuguese team jersey. Nice 🤜🤛
As a Belgian, my sincerest condolonces.
My favourite part of this video was when Romelu Lukaku said "Its Lukakuing time!" And then Lukakued all over the place
I don’t think that’s necessarily correct coz international management is a bit of a sideshow compared to European club management. I do think it’s bizarre that Portugal hired him on his failures as Belgium manager, but national teams have a limited pool of managers to pick from coz most managers manage club teams. Either you have to get a young, up-and-coming manager or an older manager who wants an easier job before he retires. Martinez gets the international gigs coz he can’t land a job in the top leagues in Europe
Still, for an international manager we had better options! Heck, Van Gaal was practically begging for this job, and Gomes ignored him for this!!! WHY???
As a Belgian I was delighted finally seeing Martinez go, with plenty of Portuguese friends, I feel sorry for Portugal
Love the vitoria shirt!! Im a vitoria fan, means a lot! much love from Portugal
If I am not wrong, he was also considered for the Liverpool job at one point. But they got Brendan Rogers instead.
That's very true. I remember well everyone thinking his open free-flowing football would have been a better fit for Liverpool at that time than Rogers.
It's important to say that during his tenure at Wigan and Everton, he received barely any backing from the board and always had to work with very limited finances (and ideas, although Martinez coped with that at both clubs). Both teams would've gone backwards even with a different manager anyway.
His tactical ideas will suit the Portuguese players' abilities, and he is skilled enough to rebuild the relationship between the people and the national team.
The appointment, while not ideal, still makes a bit of sense.
How's no one talking about Zealand's shirt? Respect for owning and wearing a shirt from a barely known team from a small country
I think the organisation and stability he brought to the struggling teams he managed was what made other teams interested in him as a manager, and there are lot's of hidden factors behind all those statistics, these teams were all struggling financially
anyone that was following premier league at the time knew he was a quality manager
I think it’s down to the fact international management doesn’t have the same prestige as club football, like what country in the world has a world class manager who club teams want ? I think that’s why Martinez got the job because even though he’s not great he’s better than most international managers, you don’t see the likes of pep or Klopp or any top manager drop into international management until they’re close to retiring
Dude, we had Van Gaal practically begging for this and he was ignored by the portuguese federation. There were better choices, hence why this is even more baffling.
Still my point Van Gaal pretty shitty manager no top club would want him so it’s like 50/50 who to go with really
His time at Wigan was more returning to the mean, at worst, it wasn't like he shat the bed, and the FA cup win (against Man City, it should be noted) was astounding, so the move to Everton was 100% warranted, not a case of failing upwards.
Belgium did well & had a poor tournament
Replacing the manager that let you go as a player is such a power move, highlight of his career 😁
Uh?
I don't understand the whole point of criticizing him based off of the fact that an AGING SQUAD couldn't replicate the height of their golden generation. I hate the fact that us as football fans think a gaffer has a remote controller to control each move of players on the pitch when his job is to simply instruct tactics and set a game plan infused with motivation catered to the players to do well.
It's clear that he did a good job with Belgium with the exception of the 2022 World Cup.
Give the man a chance to actually prove himself, damn.
It's definitely that Wigan Athletic stigma that sticks out hence the constant underestimation.
Really ? You don't understand the criticism at all ?
How about giving new/young players a chance ? That way, we wouldn't have to use an aging squad at the WC...Or how about changing tactics/formations for once ? That way, we wouldn't have been predictable...
These are all things he had control over.
I can't blame him. He's managing with attribute masking.
Your video sums up Martinez very well. This man is very savvy answering questions and knows exactly what to say to impress, or the decision makers who are interviewing him have very poor judgement skills.
When he was at wigan, he played attractive, passing football with often championship standard team. Even using 3 at the back formations back when it wasn’t fashionable. I love him as a wigan fan but I will never understand how he managed to get himself the Belgium job lmao
“Oh New Zealand video!”
*watches a video of him absolutely going in on my new national team coach*
Every point is so spot on I HATED the signing when it was first unveiled
I think that his possesion style similar to the Spanish national team is the key to his success. Everyone in that era wants a manager who plays like barça or similar.
He was one of the favourites for the Liverpool job that ultimately went to Brendan Rodgers, at that time he was known for playing really exciting football
To be fair to his career in England/Wales he was a bit ahead of his time tactically over here. In a league that still focused on direct 4-4-2 he played back 3s/5s and possession football. He introduced the style to Swansea that eventually saw them get promoted under Brendan Rodgers, gain a ton of credit, stay in the PL for multiple seasons and even win a League Cup.
His international career movement has been completely bizarre though, I'll give you that. Must be a brilliant interviewee.
He's one of those 'philosophy' coaches who gets jobs based more on his style of football as opposed to the results he achieves.
As a Belgian, i can confirm Roberto Martinez is the reason Belgium's golden generation never reached greatness. He never uses young players and relies on favourites because of which he fails by playing bad players over and over again. He's the reason we didn't win a euros or world cup and he will never be forgiven here. I hope he doesn't last long for Portugal because they look like a good young squad.
The clip of Lukaku on the Everton bench reacting in disbelief to the news that his former manager was now his national boss is an all time classic
As an Everton fan his first season with us is the best football I have seen us play in my lifetime (I'm 29)
Also record points tally in the premier league, although not our record position
Watching Zealand videos is like having a nice hot chocolate with marshmallows. Always enjoyable.
I appreciate the real life videos relating to Soccer you make for us
You forgot my favorite moment: Belgium leading France 2-0 in the Nations League semifinal. At halftime the pundits on TV and even the official Belgian FA Twitter account were spamming how great they were and how they were gonna go all the way, only for the French to realize you just need to press their elderly defense and score 3 goals in the second half. 2-3. The team never recovered from that.
As an everton fan, I love martinez, got us playing the best football we ever have, but he overall just doesnt regard defence as important. He is also one of the nicest fellas I have ever seen, genuine shame he didnt do more with us, we have slumped ever since
also weird to hear one of my local clubs (chester city) get a mention, sadly that version of the club sent under, got resurrected as a pheonix club a few years later - dont think martinez is to blame for that though
Love your Vitória shirt!
In a few hours, i'm heading to the stadium to watch Vitoria vs FC Porto. Amazing to see your shirt today! :D
In that press conference, the Portuguese FA president also said, and I'm paraphrasing a bit that Martinez would be a good manager that would allow us to strengthen our ties with Spain, which, in turn, would put us in a much better position to be the 2030(?) World Cup hosts. Truly, the Robert California of football.
Please do more videos like this on real football, you did a great job.
Great Vitória shirt!
I'm swansea fan I love roberto martinez he was key player for us if wasn't him I most probably be was watching non league so I glad roberto joined the swans kept us up in the football league back in 2004 he was great manager for swansea I believe roberto is good manager 👍
The thing with the Wigan Premier League runs they were consistently last place with like 10games to go and would claw their way out with exceptional runs, the year the won the FA cup their league form didn't pick up
So much revisionism in this to suit your narrative... As Swansea manager he got them promoted with the highest ever points tally by a welsh club in the football league when they won the League 1 title, he then had 2 very good seasons in the championship and Martinez has always been rightfully credited for creating the platform at Swansea that eventually lead to Brendan Rodgers getting them promoted to the Premier League... At Wigan you can go back and see that the investment in that team got gradually less and less year upon year, the year they got relegated the 3 teams above them all spent approx. 3 x the amount they did. The spent a total of 10 million euros, that was peanuts even back then for the prem..... keeping that club up was about as good an achievement as anyone could hope for, let alone winning an FA Cup? Incredible achievement. The Everton spell ended badly despite a good start, but then find a manager that hasn't had a bad spell on their record? That in isolation doesn't merit the criticism alone, and seriously look at what Everton have done since he left, grand total of nothing.....
And the reaction to his spell at Belgium has been seriously over the top, getting to the semi finals and being beaten by the eventual winners France is perfectly acceptable, and the squad is aging so badly with very few youngsters coming through at the same level as the previous players nobody should have expected them to achieve anything...
Do I think he's the worlds greatest manager? not by a stretch but he's also not this joke figure that he's made out to be either...
Martinez you jack bastard! It's nice that he over saw the swans moving into the new stadium after playing in the team for final seasons at the Vetch
I really couldn't believe last Euros he started Thomas Vermaelen and Christian Benteke in the same game. I could not believe my eyes at that lineup...
I think there's a big underestimation of how good the football Wigan played under him was. They were perennially underfunded, but played some wonderful passing football for a team at the bottom end of the Prem when the bottom end of the Prem was Owen Coyle's Bolton and Mark Hughes' QPR, not exactly slick units. They had a habit of turning up and wrecking big teams (3-2 away at Arsenal, 1-0 against City in the cup final spring to mind), and pulled off a few great escapes. He made Jordi Gomez, Arouna Kone, James McArthur and Emerson Boyce into respectable Prem-level players. I don't think any team has given him as long a leash as Wigan did, which is why we got some beautiful madness for a few years.
His first managerial job at swansea isn't weird at all. Zidane got hired by RM, Pirlo by Juve, Lampard by Chelsea, Dalglish by Liverpool - all without prior experience. Players who have served the club for a long time always have an easier way into managing them later, always happens in football. Obv doesn't take away from the rest of the video but pretty ridiculous to argue that he didn't deserve that job
I’m literally from Chester and I had ZERO idea he ever played here…that’s how uninspiring this man is..he must be the greatest presentation artist at job interviews there’s ever been!
He's the perfect FM manager. Getting a high level job with no previous management experience.
So he left Swansea and set his options to Continental C?
Good lord, Z.
It's the second time I see you with a PT club shirt and you straight to the two clubs that I really, REALLY want to see as far away from me as possible. Back when I was a student in Coimbra and Académica was in the premier league, Guimarães fans would just throw firecrackers at passersby university students for fun. And, considering all the stories I've heard, I guess we were lucky it wasn't much worse.
Oh. And every single place I've visited in the north of Portugal was extremely friendly and helpful to me. Porto, Braga, Vila Real, Chaves, Viseu, you name it. Amazing people.
EXCEPT GUIMARÃES. The moment (many) Guimarães residents detect a southern Portuguese accent, you'll immediately be treated like scum.
can you do a video on what to do in your second summer in the job skyways kinda overwhelmed with contacts youth intakes how many from the intake to sign managing new budgets identifying positions needed etc
This man is the only one that achieved to make me shout at my TV I am happy he is gone from Belgium but the damage is done
Come on now. If he is the only one to make you shout at the tv then you don't watch tv much.
@@masaukochitsamba7808 no I don't watch other things than Champions League, europa league or international tournaments, but he undoubtly gave the worst tactical performance of the whole world cup and I have not seen that often such ugly and inefficient teams (except atletico madrid but what they did they used to do it good, now its a bit different), also in contrast with what you expect from a team like belgium
If he was called Robert Martin he'd be in the depths of non league
He did a good job at Swansea! Brendan Rodgers seemed to get all the credit for the work Bob Martin did before he got there.
Outrageous take. I really think he was great as Belgium coach.
That jersey looks awsome bro😮
As a Belgian I believe we would have won the wc in 2018 if we had a top tier manager
Great video but you missed one important point..in RM first few years as Belgium managed he has the former World class Shaun Maloney as his assistant manager. When he left it fell apart
He must have a terrific agent, nobody gets such jobs with a track record like the one he has. For Portugal to choose the one coach in the world worse than Santos is quite an indictment of the Portuguese FA too.
I love these times of videos
Wigan fan here, you've massively oversimplified how Wigan recruited on a shoestring budget and were relegated due to a team-wrecking amount of injuries (in the FA Cup final we were playing midfielders in both LB and RB)
Working the old Martinez charm which he enchanted Dave Whelan with.
when a team expects mid-table finish but you promise cl in interview.
the shirt from my city
Ur the best man
FA Cup win is a moment the streets will never forget. He was the King of The Great Escape while at Wigan.
Zealand, I can see where you're coming from. But you have to consider the state the Belgium national team was in before Martinez. His tactics were criticized a lot of the time, but he did help us reach a certain strong position in not only the FIFA rankings, but also a position in world football as a whole. Belgium as a footballing country, as well as its leagues are now looked more favourably upon by other footballing nations, and that wasn't very much the case before. Although we didn't win a trophy, he did take us to certain new heights. Especially for a country with like 11 million inhabitants. I'm not saying he's going to succeed at Portugal, necessarily, but I wouldn't deprive him of having any chance at all. To be fair.
Thank you!
As a BELGIAN....I dispite this guyfrom the buttom of my heart
He's just that good at playing Journeyman in FM.
He’s a good knockout tournament manager that’s why. Won FA cup with Wigan, 3rd place with Belgium at World Cup beating brazil on the way. Then players got old and not even pep would win with 2022 Belgium.
great video and perfect ending 😂
I actually think he could do well with us
He gets things going in a nice way, problem is never ends well but fingers crossed 🤞
as a belgian, roberto did decent first 3 years but after the euros where his tactic was outsmarted by the italians he never tried to change anything. where were dominated by ireland in a friendly (who also did a good pressing game against us) where outsmarted by a not so great netherlands. Where 2 times weak against wales and one time good and one time bad against poland.
Even before the wc, everywhere in belgium they were sure we wouldn't be good at the world cup because he kept using the same tactic and same players who weren't at the right form.
extra he thougt some players where so good that he called them up after only playing a few games (one player only after 8 games for anderlecht)
I'm sorry Z, Wigan was my first mega save on FM. And they gave me and my friends free tickets for going to the uni at Chester. I will accept no slander (outside of this last world cup). The power of my extremely subjective bias calls you wrong.
As a Belgian fan, 2018 was incredible and I doubt I will ever feel like that again (I was 2 only in 1986), but the game against France showed that he is missing that killer instinct to go for it and seize the day. I wanted Wilmots replaced and wanted Martinez to take over, he did a lot of good things off of the field that outsiders don't see.
Unfortunately in the last couple of years he also showed that he couldnt integrate younger players into the team, use subs effectively, change the system or deviate from the players he had used for the last 6 years (Januzaj did more in a Belgium shirt than Carassco/Thorgan), if Covid wouldnt have happened, he would have left for a club team after 2020 (as this is something he has really wanted to return to for a while now) and Belgium would (hopefully) have got the next manager right and use 2022 as a "free run" as the old guard and new generation combine and begin the rebirth.
His failings are very similar to England/Southgate, they have stumbled across a good base system, but cannot see when to adapt, when to make a substitution or when his "regulars" need to be rotated out.
Your last paragraph also sums up our last NT manager Fernando Santos...
Great shirt by the way.
Zealand using my clube kit, what a fucking legend