Patrick Mahomes & Chiefs defeat Justin Herbert's Chargers in OT - Skip & Shannon I NFL | UNDISPUTED
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- In an exciting finish last night, Patrick Mahomes rallied Kansas City in the fourth quarter and then threw the game-winning touchdown to Travis Kelce in overtime, outdueling Justin Herbert and leading the Chiefs to a 34-28 road victory over the LA Chargers. Mahomes finished with a season-high 410 passing yards as the Chiefs won their seventh straight game to move into the AFC's No. 1 seed. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe grade Mahomes' performance.
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Patrick Mahomes & Chiefs defeat Justin Herbert's Chargers in OT - Skip & Shannon I NFL | UNDISPUTED
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Comparing their performances to "ALL TIME GREATS"... These boys can sling it...
Rate tom brady like that then😂 but.... Youre a hypocrite
Skip: Not impressed by either Mahomes and Herbert, also Skip: Did you see Baker 1td 2ints I give him an A
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was about to comment something similar. If Baker had half the game Mahomes had, Skip would be twerking on the table.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 that’s 100% accurate. Imagine being a Baker Mayfield Stan.
@@StrikerEurekaPR twerking on the table 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Baker is baking up those turnovers! He makes sure they are nice and fresh, even puts a little apple filling inside to make sure the defense is satisfied!
Skip would’ve slammed his hand on the table and been yelling all show if TB12 had this same very game.
...and don't forget clutching his little papers and stacking them on the desk then lay them out and take his little pen and scribble TB12 forever.
Facts
Exactly this is why I hate skip , it makes this show almost unbearable to watch . I’m only here for unc.
True that
@@lifeisgood_bro exactly
Skip: I never FaceTime with any of the superstars.
Skip, that's because none of them like you.
The only superstar that matters. The GOAT 🐐 Tom Brady Does.
@@VtinkySagina Nope. Tom Brady, awhile back, basically said he respects Shannon’s opinion, because he played at the highest level, even if it’s not flattery. He didn’t mention anything about Skip. So he prefers Shannon’s commentary, over Skip’s fanboy reports.
Skip calling Shannon biased? Skip is biased by his hate of Mahomes.
IF MAHOMES PLAYED FOR DALLAS SKIP WOULD PRAISE HIM AS MUCH AS BRADY
As a Raiders Fan you have to give props to both QB the division is going to run through them 2 in years to come
@@My_Fair_Lady you just exposed yourself, kid.
@@My_Fair_Lady touche'
@@My_Fair_Lady You should add a T to your name.
If that was Tom Brady skip would give him an A++ especially because pat won in overtime.
@@j_k7769 I remember skip praising Brady in the 1st game of the season…brady had two picks but it didn’t matter cause he did the game winning drive. He won’t do the same for mahomes
@@oa8294 well if you look at those picks one was a tipped ball and the other was a hail Mary. Mahomes just made a bad throw and got it picked off. There's a difference
@@oa8294 Yea those ints in his 1st were literally not his fault lol
Skip is just a brady fanboy. But in all honesty are we surprised when brady comes back and wins? Its like in his blood. I think football fans are jist numb to brady at this point.
@@oa8294 it’s cause the picks were a Hail Mary at the end of a half and a ball off fournette hands on a screen… big difference then throwing right to a LB and fumbling
If Brady had the exact same performance Skip would be creaming himself.
Yeah we hear it every week lol
Lmfaooo 🤣🤣🤣
When will people wake up and realize skip is nothing more than a troll that talks out both sides of his neck
So when the Chiefs defender makes a great play to tip the ball up for an INT, it’s an unfortunate play for Herbert. But when the Chargers defender makes a great play to tip an INT to himself that’s a bad mistake by Mahomes.
That sums it up.
Literally was thinking the exact same thing
Skip can't stand Mahomes.
Was looking for a comment like this
Chiefs got lucky just like they did the majority of the games last year. They can easily be beaten. GO BUCS!!
It's crazy to have Broncos legend give love to a Chiefs TE!
Shannon just an all around great guy.
It’s crazy that you feel the need to comment 10+ times on every video
Shannon has his moments but he does keep it real most of the time. He called gronk the best of all time. That wouldnt be easy for most hall of famers to admit someone else is better.
Tony Gonzalez: where’s my credit Shay!!!!
He is a Hall of Fame Tight End !!A great tight end will always recognize another great tight end
Skip: The league has figured out Mahomes
Mahomes: Best record in the AFC
Oh, but remember, the illogical Mahomes haters think only reason Chiefs win is because of everyone else, along with other teams willfully giving them wins. I swear, if Mahomes win s12 straight superbowls, they would have reasons why it wasn't because of his contributions.
They figured him out, and then he did what great QBs do, adapt. That’s sign of a great QB
@@ckmoore101 Facts bro
Chiefs won’t get past Packers Or Bucs or Cards
@@VtinkySagina What do you mean, "get past"? There is no past that. It would be Superbowl.
I like how Patrick has been adjusting and taking what the defense has been giving him and working with it. The league has adjusted to him and he had his struggles early on but he's countered that by becoming a technician. That trio of Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce is new and improved. Huge, huge shout-out to Travis Kelce this game with 12 catches for 191 yards including those two long striders he ran!! That man ate up the Chargers D and snuck up on them when they least expected it. He's the MVP of this game without a doubt.
People were eating up his high (for him) turnover numbers not realizing this is gonna come back to bite us for the next 15 years
He had a terrible game until the last 3 drives… coincidentally the drives that Derwin James were out… Mahomes couldn’t do anything until our backups came in
Amen…and skip wants to talk YAC. Mahomes has been the least YAC QB for years and defenses figured it out.
Now that he’s learning to take the shallow plays and make defenses cover the entire field he will be far more lethal.
Just need him to not lock into reading coverages and dissecting defenses pre snap.
@@kpeezy776 Mahomes has historically been great in spurts of games. This had very little to do with Derwin James. In reality Chris Jones being out had a far bigger effect on this game than James ever did.
@@kpeezy776 The Chiefs had three key players on defense unable to play, didn’t hear any excuses. Excuses are for losers, loser.
Skip praises Tom Brady when he has come back wins and talks down on everybody else lol
Skip has his favorites too if you study
I mean skip is the most biased bobbling head on tv lol🤷🏽♂️
That wasn't really a comeback
Shannon gives Brady an F though lol if Brady had that type of game Mahomes had
This is what all Mahomes haters do
AFC West is gonna have Mahomes and Herbert battling for years to come. They are gonna be INSANE
Skip will never mention that Brady NEVER had a QB counterpart like Herbert during his tenure in the AFC East. All bum QBs. Brady relied on great defenses and clutch kickers in New England.
@@argentin3 The AFC North was garbage the whole time Brady was in New England. And nobody ever likes to discuss it.
@@nate8604 AFC East👍
@@lakeozarkrei3767 Thanks for the correction.
@@argentin3 Brady broke his own record of 8 straight 30 points games with the Pats by scoring 9 straight 30 point games with the Bucs. How is that all defense and kickers? Lol people love to try to discredit Brady any way they can. He has had some beast kickers to help him win but bottom line is he makes countless plays and clutch drives to get them into the position to win.
Skip dreamed up an entirely different game where the Chargers make every play and the Chiefs don't make any to throw shade at Mahomes.
@@henrysmart6854 Alright, but that doesn't apply here in a conversation about Mahomes and Herbert.
@@henrysmart6854 actually! Mahomes has had a better start to a career than Brady by a long shot.
@@nicholas104 preach
@@intergrityautomotive5444 shut up casual 🤣🤣 Tom had 3 rings by now already
@@paulmann5328 *Cheated
If that was Tom Brady skip won't hesitate to give him a A😂
A+
exactly
"Tom Brady gets an AArdvark, I don't care that's not a thing- that was, last night his performance rating, case-closed: The GOAT riding an AArdvark!"
"Skip, we're talking about Patrick and Justin."
And Shannon would give it a C if it was Brady lmfao so what’s your point?
@@tommymeehan2694 no he wouldn’t because when it comes to football he actually speaks it as it is
Shannon has been absolutely dominating skip with pure objectivity and bringing up previous takes by skip.
These both suck 🤦♂️ don’t act like Shannon is all that.
Yet Shannon still owes skip a million cases of dew from all the bets he lost. Lol. That's how you could tell when Skip isn't trolling, when there's dew on the table.
@@SuperSonic_868 yeah because he tells Shannon to be a man of his conviction and then asks for points!! Lil Weasel will stay winning bets like that
You comment so much 😂
Skip an entertainer shannon knows his football
Kelce went for 191. Shannon still holds the record for a tight End with 12 catches and 214 yards. Granted Kelce walked it off but it just let's you know how great Shannon was in an era where Tight Ends didn't catches a lot of balls regularly.
AFC West has arguably 4 of top 5 TEs of all time to come through it (Kelce, Sharpe, Gates, Gonzales). Think you gotta give Gronk the other spot.
Really? Why are there 3 TEs from the 90s on the list for most catches in a season for a TE. Shannon sharpe nowhere to be found on it.🤷♂️
A tight end from the 49ers tied it or beat it a couple years ago
@@stephoneyoungblood2059 Yea Kittle had like 210 in the first half and never saw the ball again
@@zachrobertson684 You can Throw WInslow in there too, he was a Chief killer back in the day...unfortunately :)
I've watched skip give Dak and Brady A's when they threw multiple picks.
Okay? And Shannon would’ve given Brady a C for the same performance he gave Mahomes an A for lol. Get real.
Chargers fan here hats off to the Chiefs hope we see yall in the playoffs
Chiefs fan here, it’s gonna be a fun few years with some intense games and I am here for it! Sure hope Parham is going to be ok and back soon :)
Skip has the nerve to call Shannon biased when Tom brady can throw 3 ints in a game and skip gives him a c youve got to be kidding me skip is the definition of biased
Mahomes needs a season like this to learn how to win games when the offense isn’t scoring 40 points a game.
And tbh that’s scary for tha league
What I've been thinking all season
He needed this because at the beginning of the season he was talking about going undefeated. His priorities were/are out of whack. I love Mahomes but he needed to be humbled. Winning the Super Bowl is the goal. That is why Tom is so great ..every year that is his goal. Mahomes was becoming like Floyd Mayweather. Worrying about keeping his pristine record intact(lots of yards, TDs, low turnovers) as if those things were the goal instead of winning. Those things help you obtain your goal but they are not the goal. I hope this makes him better in the long run.
You also got to admit he has really high expectations that he created upon himself
They’re the sleeper team right now for the super bowl in my eyes; this team is scary and knows how to win.
Damn Herbert and Mahomes matchup gonna be box office going forward. Both got cannons
Oh , WERE was Herbert"s cannon at LAST night ? FOR I didn't see it , BUT , ONLY on 1 play & vary late in the game ? No sacks , OL was blocking good enough for this KID ! In the BOX , under Swing Pass JOE's control OR as we Chargers fans have SEEN all year long for the most part , NOT being used much at all ! A cannon is ONLY good , when loaded up & fired ? Other then that , it's just a heavy paper weight !
my take is, by the end of their respective careers i believe herbert has the ability to be better than mahomes. they talk about records and qb stats a lot, and mahomes in his first 2 starting seasons was lighting up scoreboards and stat lines… but, look at herbert rn. he’s doing what mahomes did and then some. respect to both these guys.
Rookie head coach, if herbert had bill as a head coach he'll benefit way more
@@tayjackson6921 it will be unfair for bill to get that much talent on the chargers.
I think Burrow Mahomes matchup is gonna be better
C+ for a 410 yard, 3 TD performance? How many other quarterbacks have done that all season? If Skip is right then no quarterback has given an A performance during the entire 2021 season.
Every segment, Skip sees something he’s never seen anything quite like before
Old man just lies 😭
Skip be lying through his teeth when he says he keeps the show objective.
Ok and so does Shannon. If Brady had that same performance as Mahomes last night, Shannon gives it a C. Plain and simple. We all know that lol.
@@tommymeehan2694 At this point, one has to be delusional to detract from Shannon when his counterpart literally tells biased, half-truthed statements on the regular. KD says he doesn’t like him, and even Tom Brady basically said he appreciates Shannon’s opinions, even if they aren’t always flattery, compared to Skip’s constant alternative reality fanboyism.
@@nate8604 don’t waste your time man he’s in every comment going hard at Shannon😂
So, if a team goes for fourth down and consistently fails, doesn't that show the defence is good? Sure the play calling is suspect after two but credit the chiefs defence where credit is deserved.
In general, why don't all teams go for 2 point conversions instead of PATs? The Chargers left 9 points on the table. If media had it in for the coach it would have been pretty rough for that coach.
Facts
Showing that team doesn't want to win. I get the first one where it was just the start of the game, bit after second fails you go again and again? Yeah chargers gave the game away.
Skip gonna find a way to hate on mahomes
Rookie coach, 2nd year QB. Going for it on 4th down looked bad last night, but the Chargers are learning how to be successful on 4th down and that's going to make them much more effective in games to come.
Someone who understands 🙌🏽⚡️
Being a chargers / raiders/ broncos fan is like being a jet fan when Tom Brady was a Patriot 💀💀
As a Jets Fan I feel this statement 😂
Not really. The Chargers beat the Chiefs earlier this year and should have won yesterday as well.
@@Boltbacker83 but when the game is on the line , Patrick mahomes could not be stopped , and was CLUTCH, just like Tom brady
Just become a Mahomes fan. At least he's not a bell end like Brady.
He also doesn't cry about being an insurance salesman.
Mahomes has a few quirks that I guess you could hate if you become a complete hater. But overall, he's a joy to root for.
@@Njbear7453 good analysis 👍
Skip the 🤡:
“Mahomes throws a lazy pass that gets tipped at the line of scrimmage and is intercepted. Such a bad play that a great quarterback would never make.”
“Justin Herbert throws a pass that is tipped at the line of scrimmage, which happens sometimes, and is intercepted. Such an unfortunate play for Justin Herbert.”
Mahomes could throw for 5000 yards and 50 TDs in a single game, and skip would be like: "C+."
Since when does closing a game in that fashion get a C + , Mahomes hasnt lost anything, he still made an across the body throw with heavy pressure to get that 2 pt conversion, then takes off and gets a huge run.
Skips just a hater cause it's not TB or Dallas
Only gripe on the 2pt conversion is that he had two open pass options prior to him extending the play and getting it to the rb. Missed those throws and had to ad lib, but that ad lib was beautiful.
@@michaelkapelis287 he doesn’t believe in Mecole and I think he didn’t wanna throw a pick in the end zone to Kelce
Patrick blew three passes I counted. Chargers won this game if Cook catches the damn ball, end of story
@@tayjackson6921 if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas. Chiefs have several if only loses, just gotta learn to win.
Scary thing is, 400+ yards and 3 TDs is a C- performance for Mahomes. When he gets back into rhythm the league is ‘effed.
It's my turn! LeShannon Sharpe your guy Patrick Mahomes is nowhere near the GOAT Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr.!
Justin Herbert is an absolute animal. It's great to see him play so well. Especially when so many people said he was going to be a bust.
Except at the goal line
@@amc1140 2 dropped touchdowns and a fumble
@@tampakingdom9998 Herbert missed 2 touchdown throws
Nah the receivers dropped it
@@amc1140 mate receivers dropped em, they were all bullets
Defense for both teams was phenomenal. Sure there were some bad looks, but discrediting the QBs because the defense balled out doesn’t make any sense 🤷🏾♂️
Chargers defense was good until DJ went out and they got gasses
@@daeganpatterson9630 he had Kelce on lock 🔒
Mahomes could run into a burning orphanage, rescue 10 children, suffer third degree burns on his hands on his way to the stadium, then throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs and Skip would still give him C+ grade. I also like how he's grading him based upon his Superbowl MVP, yet every time he talks about that game Mahomes got lucky with a duck of a punt pass that Hill had to fair catch on the 3rd and 15 play. Finally, Herbert's tipped ball for an INT was unfortunate, but Mahomes' tipped ball for an INT was careless and lackadaisical, therefore, I give Skip a C- grade on his game assessment.
So when Mahomes is Methodical like Brady and takes what the defence gives him it’s meh for Skip. But when Brady does it “DID YOU SEE WHAT TOMAS EDWARD PATRICK BRADY JUNIOR DID?? DID YOU SEE THAT 6 YARD PASS HE MADE???” 🙃🙃🙃
It's funny when people were saying the Chiefs beating the Giants was like a high school team but when the Chargers beat them it was all of a sudden the greatest thing in the world.
I don't think anyone said that 😐
Literally no one said that. Only thing people said that was great was that touchdown pass Herbert threw right before halftime
@@maxmeza6 ok you're right. It was called it a bye week.
Skip Bayless failing to mention that Thomas Edward Patrick Brady leads the league in “YAC” the same thing he’s discrediting Mahomes for…
How much YAC was on that walk off TD perriman scored last week for Tampa btw, just asking?
Over 50 yards for Perriman
Kelce had 29 yards on his GW TD
Short passes are an extension of their running game. Same could be said for mahomes. Brady just throws more.
Patrick Mahomes is 1st in pass yards after catch per completion and Aaron Rodgers is 2nd. Brady is 8th, he has more total YAC than most because he has way more completions.
@@mani-xc9rs Brady also faces less cover 2 than Rodgers and mahomes. Mahomes has recently adjusted to throwing short because defenses wont give him the deep ball
Brady literally leads the league in YAC. Skip just has to never give Mahomes credit. It's part of the character he's playing. Skip loves QBR. Mahomes putting up a 74 QBR with an overtime walk off = "C+." Brady had a 75 QBR last week with an overtime walk off and skip literally called him the 8th wonder of the world....
This game was on the coach not taking the field goals. I could understand going for it once or twice. But 4 or 5 times is way too risky. You can see that the Chargers defense was actually stopping the Chiefs so it wasn't like they needed to score only TDs to keep up. They also weren't 4th and 1 or inches which would be more understandable. If they won no one would question it, but looking back it cost them the game.
I agree, though I do understand why in the moment you might believe the risk is worth it knowing KC is capable of doing what they did in the last minute of the game and OT.
Well one of the fourth down they scored a touchdowns the chargers coach does this often so I'm not going to blame him for it
Me Chargers . Me shoot self in foot 12 times , then try win game . Me too cool kick measly field goal. Me Chargers, Me shoot self in foot a few more times ...make sure hit foot . 👀⚡
@@hiitsme3039 well that's why they're 8-6 instead of 10-4 so.... it is kind of on him.
Absolutely. Just completely ridiculous how many easy points they left on the board. They deserved to lose for constantly going for it on 4th down. Idiots calling the plays. The Chargers earned this loss.
Wait but when Tom Brady comes back and wins Skip oozes praise for him man Skip is a tough listen
Well Shannon does the same thing for lebron so skip has to do it with Brady. These 2 are clowns when it comes to their favorite players lol. The most biased people on the planet towards their guys.
@@slimv3.162 interesting please elaborate more on how Shannon oozes praise on LeBron but isn't impressed with other stars when they do the same things that LeBron does
I bet the Chargers currently wish they had voted for the Chiefs overtime rule change proposal two years ago
Even with it helping the Chiefs last night, I still wish that rule would be changed. The game is tied, equal. So teams should have equal chance to score. Its bleeping simple, and logical, and fair. Eff the NFL. Maybe make overtime, be only 8 minutes total, but scoring does not end it early. Just who has most at end. THEN, it will be a tie if neither team scores.
@@ckmoore101 that sounds even dumber. overtime is fine as it is. teams have 60 minutes to prove they're the better team if they can't get it done in that amount of time they don't deserve to win
@@noneofya1631 So, you just made case for no overtime at all. You want it to be called a tie at end of regulation. Pretty sure you are only person on planet that wants that.
@@ckmoore101 Put em on the 35 and go for a TD. First to score wins, no Field Goals. Every time the ball changes possession back to the original team move the ball 10 yards closer.
@@ckmoore101 completely agree! having it end this way just feels "incomplete"!
Brady can struggle all game, drive down, his kicker kicks a FG and he done "GOATish things"
My guy Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr will both win the NFL League MVP and he will also raise his Lombardi Trophy in the 2022 NFL Super Bowl!!
True
Not this year skip lol
The fact the Chiefs beat the Chargers while missing 3 key defensive starters should scare the pants off everyone in the NFL. Skippy what you failed to realize is the Chiefs on a compressed field in the red zone was still awesome even with 2nd string starters... on the open field, they were not as effective. Not realizing the Chiefs D in the red zone was not the same as the Chiefs D on the open field caused the Chargers to make some grave errors going on 4th down in the red zone, which did hurt them. The Chiefs D in the red zone were very good last night considering 3 key defensive players including Jones were not playing. The Chiefs should scare everyone in the NFL right now. Everybody.
Arguably best players at 3 of the 4 levels of defense
Best corner, D lineman, and LB
Right. Chargers were missing their best tackle, their starting rb (a top 5 one) barley played because he was hurt. The best safety in the NFL missed most of the game (kelce had only one catch for 9 yards when James was on the field) and samuel is our best corner was out too…
You do realize we were missing some of our best players too right?🤣
@@Public_Department619 fr, nobody is scared of the chiefs. Im praying we play them in the playoffs
Brady has a game like this and closes in the 4th and OT "oh he is the GOAT" Mahomes does it. Skip says "he lost his confidence he was off" how do you lose confidence and drive 75 yards 2 times to tie and then win the game? If 400 yards 3 TDs a pick and an overtime win is losing confidence and "off" that just makes mahomes look even better. Herbert is a baller too! SKIUUUUUUP 🤦♂️
"Chargers lost this game more than Mahomes won it" umm skip, last i remember, with 2 and half minutes left Mahomes drove down the field and tied the game. Herbert with 1 and half minutes left, needing only a FG to win, choked. Mahomes then drove down the field again to win. That sounds like Mahomes and the chiefs winning that game 🤣
Wow someone else understands that
That certainly sounds like the game I watched. Herbert had a chance and didn't cash in. 90 seconds, two time outs and they still gave the ball back to the chiefs with like 20 seconds on the clock to try to get a field goal of their own. That didn't work but then they only needed 5 plays to go 75 yards to ice the game.
If Brady had been in the same position as Mahomes was skip would’ve given him an A+. Also how is it unfortunate for Herbert to throw that pick but when Mahomes has an even more crazy athletic INT and that’s lazy. He hates Mahomes so much it’s hilarious 😂😂
If I'm an opposing offensive player and the other team keeps going for it on 4th down, all that tells me is that team is scared of us.
Before luck retired I thought him and mahomes was gonna be the next great QB afc battle after Peyton vs Brady but that looks like it might be Mahomes vs Herbert
Joe burrow & Lamar too & Josh allen Tom really only had peyton to compete against for the best in the Afc
Skip, I give you an F for that take. That was the dumbest thing I ever heard. If Dak did that against a team like the chargers, you would give him an A+. SMH
If Chargers take the FG instead of going for it on 4th, Chiefs start with different field position. The score is different so the game state is too.
You can’t change one thing but assume everything else plays out exactly the same. If Mahomes doesn’t start in his own end zone twice maybe he throws a bomb to Tyreek instead of a checkdown for space.
The ‘if’ game works both ways.
absolutely. Great point.
Yeah because this year the big plays were on point right? Chargers just did everything possible to lose the game.
If it’s not Tom Brady, it seems like Skip doesn’t give any other QB credit. This is when I hate listening to Skip because he doesn’t always give credit where it is deserved.
7 Super Bowls and every record in the book. Everyone else is just everyone else I guess.
Chargers passed up like 5 field goals for no reason lol being ultra aggressive for no reason take you points and trust your defense
You have to be aggressive against KC. The problem was the defense not doubling Kelce.
@@brandoncooper1455 the problem was when James went down kelce went ham
@@brandoncooper1455 outside of the one before the half which was manageable the rest were unnecessary to me
@@djayfeel7135 especially that first drive. It reeked of desperation to try to score first TD. Just take the 3 and go down 7-3.
@Mister Bister partially true. But the chargers have been going for it all year on 4th down for no reason they been hyper aggressive all year. It could be 4th and 8 in the 1st quarter and they going for it against the browns or texans lol
I'm so happy for Shannon. I know how long Shannon has been a KC fan. I'm not a KC fan but I hope they win another SB for Shannon. Also let's not forget Shannon was trying to tell the world about Mahomes since he was at Texas Tech, and Shannon has been proven right so far.
Lol Shannon is bandwagon fan
He’s a fan of mahomes because he sees him as a threat to tom brady, the player he hates the most and won’t admit he’s the goat
Shannon is the one that said that he hated the fact that Kansas City took Patrick mahomes. It was a bad pick they shouldn't have drafted him. It wasn't until Mahomes started to ball out that he jumped on board.
I'm a diehard chief's since 1983.
A fan this the same guy who took the 49ers over the Chiefs in the SuperBowl… don’t ever call him a fan he’s like the rest of them and a bandwagon.. he was just hating on KC earlier this season .. get this BS out of here
If Tom Brady was in that game, Skip would be like:
"Omg Shannon, did you see that 4th quarter game tying drive by Brady with just 2 min on the clock, then scored a 2 pt conversion to take the game into overtime?
THEN on top that, after winning the coin toss, drives the field again back to back and scores the game winning TD to Travis Kelce!!!! Brady is AWESOMEEEEE!!!!
Yep he would’ve. And if Brady had that exact same game Mahomes had, Shannon would’ve gave Brady a C.
How about you acknowledge both guys are biased?
Skip also wishes Baker had half the talent Mahomes or Herbert has. Gutantee you he would have given Baker an A if he put up those kind of stats
Remember when everyone was saying what’s wrong with the Kansas City Chiefs. Well they can shut up now because they’re 10-4, and on to be minimum #3 in the playoffs. It’s the same when they said the Patriots aren’t going back to playoffs (before this year) because they finished 7-9.
10-7 would make them #3?
The chiefs should've lost this game. Chargers coach left so many points on the field by going for it on fourth down 5x lol. Bro just taking 1 field goal instead and it's game over. The coach should lose his job over this game. The chiefs had no reason whatsoever to win this game.
@@rondiggity1677 hahaha
Chiefs are not that good lol they would have been DESTROYED by the packers if Rodgers was playing lol AFC is trasssssh
@@juicyjayson The same Packers who could not beat a QB in his 40's in the NFC Championship game last season?
Not a fan of the Chiefs at all, but I gotta say Kelce was a beast in the 4th quarter. Dude is definitely the best TE in the league hands down.
Kelce can't do anything when Derwin James is playing. He had 1 catch for 14 yards on 22 plays versus Derwin.... Derwin exits game kelce has 177 yards and 2 tds on 30 plays. Kelce has consistently been stopped by Derwin James.
@@AscendAR that’s very true, Kelce is like a nail stuck in the wall, when DJ out there.
Not to mention he’s 1/19th the blocker Gronkowski is!!! That’s the problem today. Most forget TEs should have some MAN in then to be able to block ! Ppl base TE off stats only. Very misleading. Just WRs playing TE.
@@justingardner4658 I don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just saying Kelce seems like the heart of that explosive offense. Every time I see them play, he's always making critical 3rd down catches and seems much faster than he looks.
I agree he’s the key to the entire offense. Tampa showed you keep it two high and make them methodical. In that game plan Kelce has to be the guy to carve up that area of the field. He’s a great player but targets and blocking sometimes needs to come into play for TEs, that’s all I was saying.
Skip forgets the Chiefs came from behind in most games the last 2 seasons winning big in the second half. It's what they have been doing as a team since Mahomes took over at QB.
That part, I live in Kansas City and enjoyed the game
The one thing this game showed me is how great of a player Chris Jones really is because the chiefs D is so much better when he plays.
Yep
Yup, the defense sucked until the game where he was switched back to his proper position. Incredible player, deserves that bag he got.
I smell a rivalry between Herbert and Mahomes two great teams with two great quarterbacks battling back to back never knowing who is going to win I’m a chiefs fan and I was so broken when we lost to the chargers earlier this season and I saw we was playing them later this season and I was hoping we would beat them and we did so proud of the chiefs and mahomes
Don't think it's over, Chargers are a better team when fully healthy and doesn't drop balls⚡
If the Chargers had not went for those fourth downs and took the field goals I think they win the game 🎯💪🏿
i dont blame the fourth down tries… only reason they had all those fourth downs was because players kept dropping td passes
i dont blame the fourth down tries… only reason they had all those fourth downs was because players kept dropping td passes
If my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle
Crazy how they did
@@zachrobertson684
right
should’ve ,could’ve ,would’ve …
Chargers need to take more field goals
Exactly!
They could’ve been up
17-10 at halftime.
@@henrysmart6854 Kelce started going off when Derwin James got hurt.
@@niilamptey7742 The chiefs defense were missing their best defensive player all game and 2 other key defenders. They made the stops when they needed them
No. Be aggressive against KC. The score tds too easily
People saying chargers should have taken more field goals, don’t know football. Kansas City scores the ball too easily, you have to be aggressive. The reason the Chargers lost this game is because they didn’t double Kelce.
Give Mahomes his credit. I don't wanna hear Herbert never got the ball like you didn't do it when Brady won the AFC Championship in Kansas City 3 yrs ago
As a chargers fan from San Diego, I want to see a third matchup in the playoffs. I think who ever wins this matchup will meet that pats in the afc championship game prob.
chargers probably wont even make it to the playoffs at this point
I agree 100% they will meet for a 3rd time in the playoffs... This Charger curse will end... There is undoubtedly a new sherif in town named Justin herbert and he will beat KC at home in the playoffs. Everyone knows chargers play better on road anyway
@@holocade4908
agreed
@@garrettrandall2660 and everyone knows chargers are a better team.
@@holocade4908 how? There schedule left is cake
Let's not mention 3 defensive starters out for KC. Chargers were stupid not taking points though, that's the game. I'll take it!
Pat throws for 400 and 3 tds
Skip: C+
Brady throws for 205 and 2 tds
Skip: OMG did you see the greatest performance of all time from Thomas Edward Patrick Brady!!!!
Is it me or does UNC SHAY point out SKIP's hypocrisy more & more? *Ye shrug*
The attempts on 4th down are useful in two scenarios when you’re behind and need a touch down or when you’re playing against a team with a terrible defense and a phenomenal offense. The Chargers were in the second scenario that being said if you attempt too many of them and fail you put your defense in a terrible situation. On that last play a defense that didn’t see their team waste 12 points would’ve probably gotten the tackle before the first down marker and potentially make a stop but they were far too deflated and exhausted to do it and that cost them the game.
Skip loves to discredit athletes its so ridiculous, its not the chiefs fault that the Chargers decided to do what they did and lost, its not Patricks fault that Kelce or Hill can break free for Yac yards 🤦🏽♂️
I know Skip isn’t talking about “yards after catch” as a Brady guy 😂
“ You definitely need a new TV” … hahaha!! I was crying. These guys are great !!!
Mahomes had a phenomenal game. Some throws had me fuming but he adjusted and made the money plays he is known to make to win the game. Herbert was also sensational and seeing these two battle was crazy. I figured Skip would be down on Mahomes but bro, this man is a certified hater. But let Baker have a game like that😂
Or Thomas Edward Patrick Brady, Jr... Skip is an idiot. Smh
That was a good game and it came down to whoever had the ball last.
If pat throws 5 tds and 600 yards and one int he will be like I’ll give him a b- like wtf just say he did good it’s not that hard🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
skip said "objectivity".
precious
Sooner or later Skip needs to stop with all the "if" stuff and focus on the "because" stuff. Bottom line is football is a team sport, and the Chiefs won BECAUSE they played a better game.
You can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Skip will never change. It’s hilariously frustrating
Funny skip mentions YAC.. I think he’s forgetting who leads the league in it ??? 🤔
luv this guys all way from nairobi kenya
"You see that skip, that's Dat Drive phase." That is the quote of the segment. LOL.
Analytics lost the chargers the game, kick the damn field goals
There’s no way Skip defends Brady tooth and nail every week for decades then tries to go at Mahomes for YAC 😂 80% of Brady’s career yards have been YAC, especially in NE
Honestly I think it’s time for skip to go. He’s always had bad takes but it’s just horrible now. His hypocrisy is truly remarkable.
Mahomes and Herbert balled out last night. Skips off the edge
How can you not be impressed by 2 great athletic QBs who show no fear or get phased when they make a mistake who both try to "win" the game for their teams.
Mike Williams is underrated
I'm just happy the chargers still have chance at the playoffs. We are pretty good. We are up and coming. We have a ton of cap next year.
So u play for the chargers.never heard your name before🤔
@@r0ddowell523 shut upppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
Nothing wrong with being 2nd best
Skip was on the money in this debate. He said my thoughts.
So we’re not gonna talk about all the dropped td passes that Herbert threw perfectly
So first skip says that mahomes is reckless with all the no look crazy passes then when he stops doing that and throws more normally because that’s what his team needs now he’s less confident in his offense, skip you’re contradicting yourself man
If Baker had a game like either Mahomes, or Herbert..? He'd be screaming "A PLUS"! Talk about bias?! Skip is an absolute 🤡
Skip you must been drinking some haterade. He lost but Justin Herbert made some top 5 QB throws last night
Chiefs win again don’t doubt my dam team, give credit where it’s due. Patrick still comes through for my Chief’s love them.
I'm not big on what-if’s. You can't just drop-in one change and expect the rest to be the same. Making a different decision will change everything that would have happened afterwards.
What if the Chargers kicked a FG, then the Chiefs ran down and scored a TD the next drive?
What if Bosa got a safety because the Chiefs started on the 1? Then scored a TD
What if the Chargers scored on 4th?
What if the Chargers stopped the Chiefs after failing on 4th?
The point diff’s are -4, then +2-9[10], then +7, then 0 for the Chargers.
And how do those outcomes change how the rest of the game is played? What-if’s the are good entertainment, but they don’t guarantee that the team would have won if they did something different.
That's correct but they still need to start taking points and stop going for it on 4th down so much. It has cost them more than one game this year
@@pierrecausemybladdersempty1678 as a Chiefs fan I'm glad they did. I'm more glad that the defense stepped up and stopped them. With three starters out, including Chris Jones, it was amazing that they were 2-5 on fourth downs.
Skip the clown at it once again. Baker gets an A when he loses and throws 2 INT, but Holmes throws over 400 and 3 TD and gets a C. That guy is such a sorry joke and terrible for sports.
YEAH HIS LOGIC IS EQUIVALENT TO A TOILET
Justin Herbert sets the record for most passing yds in first two years. this kid is legit.
Skip damn near fell out his chair at :26 and tried to sniff it off 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Still hate the OT rule of whoever scores first and the other team doesn’t get a try
It’s not a giveaway it’s a football game, if you want to win then go out and win🤷♂️ personally I like it a whole lot more than college overtime
I also hate that there is ties in the NFL
It’s better than the college OT rules
Yes but in this case Herbert had a chance with 2 timeouts and 1:16 left on the clock, and all he needed as a field goal
ITS WHOEVER SCORES A TD FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My one critique of Skip: YAC yardage, from what I know, is a sign that a QB is releasing the ball quickly. To me, PH had his best game passing from the pocket that I have ever seen.
Just watched Episode 2 or 3 of “Man in the Arena” and it’s so funny seeing Young Skip on there talking about the Patriots being cheaters during “Spygate” lol.