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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
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00:00 - Intro
00:09 - Overview
00:32 - Reddit post
02:34 - Panic attacks are a symptom
03:08 - Panic Disorder
04:22 - Panic attacks are physiologic
09:16 - Mechanisms of panic attacks
14:22 - What do?
26:46 - Questions
27:33 - Isn't Bellows Breath shallow?
28:41 - So the literature is lacking specificity?
29:27 - How do you help a friend having a panic attack?
32:17 - Is there a difference between an anxiety attack and a panic attack?
33:12 - Reaching a no-mind state
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For the past 3 years I've felt like my life was shit, my grades in college were garbage, was constantly sleep deprived, addicted to nicotine, caffeine, video games and porn, while being constantly high. Three months ago I got a panic attack while high and no sleep, I literally felt like I was going to die of a heart attack and it lasted for about 3 hours. Although it was the worst experience of my whole life, the fear of having to go through that again gave me the courage to finally take the handles of my life, quit my addictions and change for good.
oh shit that’s so hype i hope u prosper🙏 may i ask if you have had another since? jw
i feel the same im just living for no reason ive got a panic attack before i drank monster (energy drink) late at night and then i got a panic attack that caused me to call 911 and got rushed to the hospital, Then ive gone back home it was nothing they found nothing. Scary.
How did you change your life? I also deal with many of the same issues tour facing especially the lack of motivation in college
I'm glad to hear ur getting better ♡ keep it up
I used to freak out, get frustrated with myself, cry and want to destroy everything and myself.
Now I'm just like, 'it's cool, girl. Just breathe. Breathe. We just need more O2'
17:44 story of my life. Psychiatrist for 5 years: "its just a panic attack" (never sent me for a medical investigation). After 5 years of worsening symptoms i requested an MRI from my GP. Found a large tumor in my brain. Post surgery saw a neurologist who told me my symptoms were actually focal seizures. Taking anti-seizure medication and my panic attacks are no more
Opposite experience for me, I ended up being diagnosed with panic disorder after several months but my first several attempts to get treatment were just physical tests. Don't get me wrong, they were doing their due diligence, but omg I was freaking out and developing agoraphobia and it just took way too dam long for my therapist to finally say "okay you have panic disorder, let's work on that." didn't help I was in the military with a pretty important job and panic disorder diagnosis did disqualify me to keep that job, but jesus it took way too long to be taken seriously and the whole time I was just losing my mind and felt I wasn't being taken seriously
My issue was that I was scared of my panic attacks. I would begin to feel a panic attack come on, and I would get scared and anxious, which made the attack worse. It was a viscous circle that would spin me out of control. I have since learned to identify the panic attack, and I guess "observe it" is the best way to describe it. I will think to myself "Okay this is a panic attack. I'll be fine, it'll pass in time. This has happened before and I have always come out of it just fine". Wherever I was, I would find a place to sit quietly and breathe until it passed. It sucks, but the panic attacks have dropped in severity and duration since I figured out how to control the fear of panic attacks.
I have the same issue, but my panic sets in when I lay in bed to try to sleep. I've followed a similar trend as you, but considering that it messes with my sleep, I just want it gone and not have to deal with quietly observing it and steadily breathing. It's been almost 6 months, and with this video, I guess I'll start seeking out some more professional help.
@@UsaraDark my condition got better when I started doing more outside activities, going to the beach, as well as going to a therapist. So far that’s been most helpful to me. Good luck!
@@UsaraDark that's the best. Getting them in public is embarrassing af
Yes, this is definitely the best way to deal with a panic attack, assuming that in the moment you have the mental capacity to actually think clearly, or control your thoughts at all. The best way to deal with a panic attack is to be nonchalant about it, or even invite it willingly. At that point your mind realises it’s not under any actual threat and calms down…eventually.
@@UsaraDarkHave you tried letting it come and just feel it for a bit? Accept it like a friend and let it in, but be sure to tell it you need to sleep, and it needs to leave now. See you later.
I thought I was having panic attacks from ages 24-30. Turns out I'm autistic and I was actually having a meltdown because I was overwhelmed by sensory data. Since I've become aware of this, I've worked to understand what triggers these meltdowns and I have been able to avoid them for the most part. If I start feeling like I need to scream or run away, I just tell the person that I'm with that I need to get out of here and then they help me get out.
Lmao I love the thumbnail but then I realised that having that “Mr. Krabs in the crowd” meme photo would have been even funnier.
I’ve been binging A.T. for the last month, so it checks with me. 😂
he should try switching and compare the clickthrough rate 🤓 although maybe not because I think the current one is brilliant
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought it said "what the dog doin"
Nah Jake got that "mentally ill philosopher friend" vibe on point
For those who need it: I was in that situation, but everything changes and things get better. Trust me, it's not easy nor comfortable.
Step by step. Don't suffer alone ask for help.
Where the fuck is one supposed to look for it? Any attempt just makes me feel worse. Nobody really needs me jumping into their life screaming for help. It's ugly and miserable and nobpdy will able to help
@@pocketblue same, but gotta keep trying whenever possible maybe we'll get the chance to prove ourselves wrong
@@pocketblue First going to a doctor for medical help. If any trouble due to other circumstances there are non-profit organizations probably in your country.
Sure people don't need someone "jumping into their life screaming". That's not how it is supposed to be done. Start easy, one step at a time. Healthy Gamer community is a good place. Some posts on reddit, interacting. Family, friends, other communities either online or offline...
On other situations, you talk to someone and tell them you are having a rough time. Increasing detail as the conversation goes.
Like when flirting you don't start with "Hey I want to spend the rest of my life with you", it starts with "Hi, I'm pocket, How are you?"
You can be surprised by how many times opening up with others let's you realise how much other people is struggling with their own battles and you don't feel like the only one let alone.
@@FrozenYoghurt2411 sorry to hear that. I thought the same at the beginning, then with medical treatment, self consciousness and time things started to change. Remember it's a path, focus on single steps.
Joke's on you, my life has only gotten worse and worse as I've aged. And no amount of talking has ever changed anything.
68 years old, had first "panic attack" at work the other day and pain down my left arm -- thought I might be having a heart attack. Went to emergency. Excellent idea. Turns out my heart is aces, my blood is excellent, my liver and kidneys are fine. My BP, however, is fooked. I'm pretty convinced that the "panic attack" was PTSD. I knew I was in trouble before I even went to work because what I call an "echo" from a previous trauma had shaken me up pretty bad already.
It's not even necessarily PTSD (not to assume anything, just speaking from personal experience). I've 31 and have never had a traumatic event other than a few car crashes in my life, none that I would consider traumatic. If you ignore an emotional problem for long enough, your brain is going to keep count and it's going to go off in the most unrelated situations imaginably.
"I'm pretty convinced that the "panic attack" was PTSD."
I'm not saying that's wrong but that's like saying: "I'm pretty convinced that cracking sound wasn't my joint breaking, it was my body collagen level being low".
A panic attack is an episode of maxed out anxiety or fear. It can happen with a multitude of disorders.
So I was treated with SSRIs for generalized anxiety 6 years ago. I'm mostly fine but stressful situations (for example being awake during a trivial surgery, or at the dentist) still trigger panic attacks.
My advice, that never ever failed me, comes from one of the Wolfenstein games:
Count to 4, breathe in
Count to 4, breathe out
Repeat.
Instruction unclear , just stab a nazi in the neck
I know that from The Owl House. Helps me a lot.
Thank you. Its been the most effective for me compared to counting prime numbers or scanning the room for 54321 objects.
That's almost the fourfold breath technique for meditation that I use sometimes, only there you count to four at the same rate on the inhale and exhale while, of course, also actually taking some kind of meditative posture too
My therapist had me go through a DBT book that recommended something similar. Eventually I got down to 6 breaths a minute. It was very helpful.
I think it's a real shame that Dr K. didn't discuss exposure therapy in the context of panic. Working as a therapist I have found this to be single-handedly the best treatment for panic and there is a lot of evidence to support this. "Challenging" the faulty interpretations of bodily symptoms verbally can often only get you so far. What helps people most is exposing them to panic attacks without any kind of avoidance/distraction (breathing techniques can often become a "safety behaviour" that makes panic worse so I wouldn't recommend this) and letting them see what happens. This teaches people that, although panic is scary and uncomfortable, it is safe. In turn, once the symptoms of panic themselves stop being feared, the panic disorder is usually stopped.
Those findings are interesting and strange to me. I dealt with panic disorder for several years in my teens (7 or more, can't remember now) and they were frequently very severe. I never had the opportunity to see a doctor or get any kind of treatment or learn any techniques, so the only thing I ever got to do was just sit through them. (I'm not sure what you mean by avoid or distract from the attacks? I came to a place where I was avoiding triggers, but the actual attacks could never be avoided or distracted from once they'd begun no matter what I did, in my experience.) Anyway, after I'd lived with very bad ones for many years, I'd learned I was probably going to live through them, which helped a little bit with my agoraphobia problem and how scared I was during the attack, but helped very very little with the length or severity of the actual attack itself. For me, nothing obviously or evidently made them go away until they just gradually went away on their own after all those years, even after quickly learning what they were and the fact that I probably wouldn't die.
The very moment you ignore panic attacks thinking "do what you want, I'm not going to waste my life on psychosomatic symptoms which are not dangerous at all" they will vanish, they're fueled by fear.
Dr. K is absolutely on point here, much more knowledgeable than 99% of medical doctors. The science on panic attacks has moved light-years in the last ten years and most therapists, clinicians, and doctors are operating on outdated research. Read Stephen Porges's work on Polyvagal Theory and Peter Levine's work on Somatic Experiencing to go deeper into this topic.
It's also been my experience that certain breathing techniques work well for certain people, but will send other people into a state of hyper-activation. There are dozens of techniques out there, so if one technique is no good, there are many alternatives. I found success with Neurodynamic Breathwork where the usual yoga (as practiced here in the US) just drove me up the wall.
I get panic attacks when I get burnt out, physically unwell with my chronic illnesses, have a C-PTSD episode and when I have sensory or information overload. They are scary and it feels like I am gonna die.
I experience
- Heart palpitations
- Feeling i'm gonna die
- Breathlessness
- Shakey
- weak muscles
- unable to stand
- Need to cry
- Sensations of throat closing
- Crawling sensations on skin
- Nausea
- Increased digestive struggles
- Unable to sit still
- Fatigue
- Feel like i am going to faint
- Age regression
The way i calm myself down is i ask myself "Do i feel like i am going to die and do i feel scared or feel the need to seek reassurance?". The answer is normally yes and then that is how i rationalize it is a panic attack and use my tools to help calm down my physiology. Sometimes it takes hours for my body to calm down but that is okay. I try to be gentle with myself and use daily structure throughout the day, which helps me to keep calm.
Age regression? 🤔
@@WanderTheNomad yes, my brain reverts back to a child when in times of distress. It's completely involuntary and quite scary too. It's a trauma response that is out of my control
The first actual panic attack I had I genuinely thought I was dying and I did call 911. An ambulance showed up at my apartment and hooked me up to their machines and after their initial evaluations told me they were confident that they didn’t see anything wrong with anything they could evaluate. They told me they would take me in if I wanted to, but they then asked me if I had ever had a panic attack before. I told them I hadn’t, and they said “based on what you’re telling us, we think you just did.”
Was pretty terrifying.
That's what happened to my brother and how I learned about panic attacks
Happened to me when my mom left me alone on a trip. I have health anxiety and separation anxiety (the two really really don’t mix well) and for 3 hours at 1 AM I was convinced I broke my collar bone and I was going to die because I couldn’t breathe from the panic attack (panic attack was triggered because of my separation anxiety and my brain linked it to something serious because I’d never experienced one before). My mom was begging me not to call 911. Eventually went to sleep watching TV and woke up perfectly normal. So scary. Ever since then I get panic attacks much more consistently 😢
Omg, that theory with the suffocation reflex makes so much sense. I feel like the beginning of a panic attack does usually feel like I was suffocating.
Had a bunch of small panic attacks for years after a traumatic death in the family but I was able to control them. Had a massive one during a period of high work stress where I went blind for about ten minutes and legitimately thought I was on the way out. Called 911 and talked with first responders to calm down and declined going to the ER.
When you say blind, do you mean you had the ol tunnel vision and then blacked out?
@@thedude8526 It was tunnel vision to the point where I couldn’t see anything but I remained conscious. Walked around while talking to emergency services on the phone.
Yeah there are grades of panic attack. I had to basically take seven years off life because panic attacks went from once every few years thinking I was going to die, to the extremity of almost psychosis level, every few hours, wishing I would die. Mostly under control now, but I’m never getting the prime of my youth back.
I've had a few panic attacks, and multiple "anxiety" attacks. My biggest differentiation between the two is that the panic attacks don't have an anxiety build-up and I can't control my response to them in the middle of one. My anxiety attacks are absolutely a result of building anxiety and I can hold off the "attack" portion until I finish certain tasks or get myself somewhere safe. Both feel somewhat similar while I'm in the highest 'attack" portion of them but I do have more clarity of mind during an anxiety attack. I can tell people what I need during an anxiety attack. My panic attacks are way scarier because they actually mess with my hearing and sight, making everything fuzzy and unfamiliar... in addition to the rest of the physical symptoms.
We may never know each other, but we all have a colorful childhood.
I struggled severely with panic disorder for 2 or 3 years. Forced me out of college, went back home to live with mom and dad, and spent everyday with a thought planted in the back of my head that another one was right around the corner. A book recommended by the psychologist I was seeing, who also struggled with panic attacks when he was around my age, was called “hope and help for your nerves” by Dr. Claire Weekes. That in combination with therapy and SSRIs has absolutely flattened panic attacks. I’m proud to say I haven’t had one in over two years. All directly related to the absolutely wonderful and simple program outlined in that book.
Just want to add to this - the DARE Response by Barry McDonagh has been hugely helpful and has much of the work Dr Weekes has in it, just packaged differently/more modern. I highly recommend both Dr Weekes' and Barry McDonagh's works if anyone is going through it.
this might not be the best way for anyone else, but for my first panic attack which probably had a lot to do with caffeine, no amount of breathing exercises was going to help. I figured that I just had to wait until the caffeine left my system and be ok with dying if my panic attack led to some kind of heart attack, grim I know. For panic attacks with no particular reason, I just focus on the sheer physical state of my surroundings. I try to imagine looking at my life from a bird's eye view, for some reason it works.
I think it is called grounding, and it is very effective in anxiety and/or panic attacks. Just focus on where you are, what can you see around you, etc.
Same
I thought i was getting a heart attack but after 2hrs i came to terms with dying and it went away.
(I was aware that ut wasnt a heart attack)
I dissacoiated during my first panic attack. Not in a good way though lol. Felt like I had lost control. But my first attack was caffiene based. Thanks Bang!
The four times I had a panic attack, what at least helped in the moment was to step outside. The moment I was outdoors, the panic attack subsided.
Couple of weeks ago I was having a panic attack at night and got a really strong urge to go outside. It made me feel a little better, but then some random guy just sped past me on his bike and yelled "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!" and it made me feel like I was tripping. It was so weird lmao
I do the same thing. When it happens I get on my bike and go four a ride near my house. Always help.
I’ve had crippling panic attacks since I was 12, my mom said my dad would take me away from her (they were divorced) if I told my doctor about it, so I never did and just had episodes of having multiple full attacks for months to a year at a time into adulthood. I’m at a point where these extreme seasons don’t trigger unless big life changes.
It happened last month for the first time in 8 years and my wife told me to go to the doctor. Right now I’m in therapy and have a scrip for hydroxazine to take if I feel one coming on. 2 therapy sessions and I haven’t had one since, thankfully haven’t had to take the meds yet and hope I don’t have too.
SAME. My abandonment / attachment trauma / separation anxiety gets triggered instantly. Object constancy and competence training is helping.
You know, that thing about panic attacks being physiological as opposed to mental really explains what I have jokingly referred to as a "diet panic attack" where I have all those nasty physical symptoms (heart go brrr, hands go brrr, Tummy hurt a Little Too Much for a Little Too Long) but my brain just does not care at all. My body feels like it is falling apart and skull brian over here is just thinking about digimon or whatever.
Just what I needed to start the day.
Still sort of going through a bad breakup so I really hope this video helps.. been having alot of dark thoughts and panic attacks recently..
Hey, sorry to hear that you're going through such a difficult times... I hope you have people that you can share your feelings with, and who can support you. No one should go through difficulties like this one on one. Everything is going to be ok! : )
That's why u shouldn't do bloody relationships. Still, get good bruv, keep a head up!
@@danoncho I really wish I did have more people to chat with. But honestly it feels as though I have no one. I'm sure there may be somebody.. but who?
@Darien Striz Friends. A friendship can be fulfilling, you just have to let go of obsession and possession that comes with a relationship. Sex can be gotten by other means, no need to jump into another relationship which will end sad anyway in - best case - two years.
@@Skizzeckz Psychologist may really help you if you have need to share your feelings. Even if you will visit him/her once. Also, they can give support properly, and professionaly take care of how you feel. That's their job. I also like to hug a pillow! You can try it too! It is totally ok to feel loneliness on some stages of life. Those who you may share your feelings with could be your familiar people. Some people around you might be happy to support you. Because if you share your feelings, that means you giving trust. And some people really appreciate that.
Okay I have an important message. People, don't be ignorant. Please. If you see someone on street struggling, crying or seemingly not just being fine take a moment to come to this person and ask if you can help somehow. I've been dealing with something really dark for last three years and it's just killing me how much I tried to reach for help and how nobody came, how often I started crying in public and noone ever tried to help. I see it as my mission to tell you that our society is deadly ignorant, please let's change it together, just don't pass by a crying person, maybe two kind words from you or a hug can save their life. Please never pass by. Love you. Let's be a little better.
I had panic attacks for a brief period of my life every time i tried going to sleep, and listening DR k's intro stream music while forcing myself to stay put legit saved my life lol, it was still extremely painful but i eventually fell asleep without noticing, highly recommend. Panic attacks are the worst thing ever, wishing for the best for everybody
I used to have these anxiety attacks right before sleep, but I got better too. Meditation, sauna, CARDIO excersises (I used to fall for the cardio kills gains memee, never again) and a good circadian rythm has cured them almost completely.
I just moved and it's the first night that I'm completely independant. Unfortunately, I'm a very anxious and paranoid person. I can't sleep, and suddenly could feel my second-ever panick attack building uncontrollably (feels like I'm dying).
I put on this video and skipped to "What Do?" Just hearing Dr. K's voice helped me calm down a bit. Thank you so much.
Yes 46 now had panic attack around when I was 23. Was driving home from work. Didn't have a phone but luckily a dude was cutting grass at a business lawn so pulled over and got out and crawled (was dizzy don't know if would've fallen on street where fooking drivers were probably driving over speed limit next to me) over to him and said call 911 please after finding out he had a phone. Thought I was dying. Felt cold arms and legs. Read about how before people die extremities get cold. Would've helped if I never read that I guess lol. Had a moment of an elephant on my chest feeling. HR was like 140 or so sitting still paramedic said. Paramedic asked me why I think I'm having a heart attack and the cops came to grill me about I should admit if I'm on cocaine or some other stimulant because they are going to find out from the paramedic after they took some blood to analyze but then apologized and they are just doing their job same thing they do with everyone in my situation when it came back negative to anything. Had a stimulant and maybe too much that's healthy because caffeine from the coffee but that was only stimulant. It was thinking about what was going to happen at work that gave me the panic attack. Nothing to do with fear of future for me well not DISTANT future just when I was going to work in like 12 or so hours in the future what would happen. Didn't want to go to work so agreed with employee of Charter Oak to go to Charter Oak mental hospital for a few days to get out of going to work. Was an annoying job not right for me. Now I have a very different job and no panic attacks HOORAY lol.
I also got my first panic attack when I was 23
I was just in bed at 1am thinking about my next day and was like "ugh"
then BAM! breathing hard, feeling like I can't control my body, suddenly dizzy, feeling my heartbeat, had to crawl up the stairs because I didn't trust myself to stand
the next day was just a normal day
every time I've gotten a panic attack onset (I haven't gotten a full on one since I learned breathing exercises and that I'm not actually gonna die), I felt like I was just doing something mildly annoying or uncomfortable but otherwise just minding my business
First time I had an anxiety attack was during the jury duty selection process. The courtroom felt like it was slowly closing in on me and the social anxiety I had at the time and the long boring and annoying selection process took my anxiety to a height I never experienced before. Was literally the last person out of that courtroom when they finally got to me (was able to excuse myself because they visibly saw me starting to panic). Once I got out I just sat in my car, windows cracked open, catching my breath for a good 30 mins before I could drive back home.
I found out about this channel a week ago, and I am glad I did. We need more of these creators on CZcams than ever
Went through this exact experience around when I turned 27 8 months ago. Went to the gym, 2 hour workout with a bang energy drink. Grabbed chic fil a and went home to do chores. Something about the silence of being alone for a few hours (and would be for the next 3 hours) combined with muscle fatigue, shortness of breath, and heart rate up (all from gym/drink) just made me really on edge. Then all of a sudden im bent over the table where I was folding laundry, utterly convinced I was going to lose control and somehow shoot myself with my own guns. And the fear of doing so (suicide is my biggest fear, I love life) just made the whole thing way worse. I was so raw for a month or two after. Therapy helped alot with techniques to deal with oncoming panic attacks.
When I had panic disorder, caffeine became the absolute bane of my life. Regular coffee would make me vomit and panic for hours, I can't imagine what an energy drink would've done to me. After years of dealing with panic disorder and my attacks started improving and going away, caffeine remained the one absolute and un-changing trigger for attacks that outlasted all the rest. After my attacks went away completely, caffeine could still trigger an attack, and only a couple years ago - 15 years since my panic disorder started and 7 years since it ended - did I find that I'm able to drink certain energy drinks and, SOMETIMES, coffee without having anxiety. However, any type of energy drinks other that Starbucks' oneshot things don't really give me energy, instead they make me feel incredibly ill and anxious (I've tried a few different brands and types). I think panic disorder itself has a biological component, but I also believe certain foods/drinks/chemicals also have the power and potential to bring it out of people and make it worse. Sorry you went through that.
@@calico5304 literally same things happened to me when I had my first panic attack, I went back from the most brutal leg day in my life, I remember drinking monster energy and some kind of caffeine drink and after couple of hours I felt like I was being possessed or something, I felt so weird as well. Then I didn't have one for a year or so but then it started again for like couple of months everyday and I felt the same as you, I was afraid of suicide and going insane even though I knew I wasn't going to harm myself
I had a panic attack year's ago at work. Literally had to put the closed signs up in the middle of the day, go to my car and scream/cry for like 10 minutes until I was more in control. I never had one after that, 10+ years on, but I will never forget the two attacks I had
HOLY COW the mentioning of always having a place that u can be alone in that u mentioned around 7 minutes in is so ironic because i’m at a party right now and i left through the backyard and i’m laying against a tree in the back of the backyard and nobody is by me and there is so many of them in there. i was prepared
My friend just had a panic attack just now. Your timing is impeccable!!
"misactivated smother reflex"... makes a 100% perfect sense. I've experienced this often in meditation and other times and wondered if I had a suppressed memory coming up of being choked etc etc etc. pretty much everything you described fits to a tee
So I'm 33 and have had an entire lifetime of panic attacks starting from age 8-12 give or take. Medications for 20 years etc etc.
After a devastating breakup and hitting rock bottom I decided it was time to hibernate and focus on myself. I got off meds and after months of withdrawal I saw my cardiologist again. I had been seeking answers for my heart palpitations but found none until I studied my past EKGs on my own and found an issue. I discovered have LQTS of the heart and it's genetic. The day I learned this my anxieties essentially melted away. Sure I still have the palpitations/arrhythmia but now I know I've had it my whole life and I'm still alive.
33 years of being dumbfounded by my anxieties all because of some slight heart rhythm impairment.
Granted I have my own issues to have worked out but these were seemingly out of nowhere panic attacks.
Anywho I hope anyone who reads this finds some solace in their struggles.
Hey man I relate to this a lot. 33 is my lucky number so for real hit me up on insta or sum I’m really interested to see how you get on.
I’ve just been broken up with after 4 years with the best girl, I had a panic attack while on a podcast today and am here trying to calm down 2 hours later:/
I only had one panic attack in my life, and it had a trigger. Once I saw that trigger, an extreme fear settled in, and I felt like the world was collapsing.
The attack lasted 25 minutes, but my heart wouldn’t calm down until 8 hours passed. It got difficult for me to breathe that day.
Does anyone knows how to deal with physiological symptoms that causes panic attacks? How stop shaking and tensing, how to stop being dizzy and nauseus?
Only a psychiatrist can help you with that
But go have a couple of blood tests first. Especially the thyroid gland. And check your vitamin and mineral deficiency, it's the most underrated aspect of mental illness issues. Sleep well, exercise and stay hydrated with enough water and electrolytes. These things literally changed my life. I no longer have intense panic attacks or anxiety.
This really brought me to the light and helped me understand my brain more, thank you Dr K
Life saving material right here
Thank you for the video Dr. K, this one came at a great time. I had (what I think is) a panic attack yesterday and saw this video this morning. It felt like I had stroke or something but everything I read said there was no reason to believe that was the case and didn't really emphasize that I needed care quickly. I chalked it up to my generally shitty mental health and was prepared to wait about a month to see a therapist. I had no plans to seek actual medical care from my PCP until I saw this video, I am now getting seen tomorrow morning. Thank you 🙏
thank you. my first panic attack i lost a soccer game and started to hyperventilate. my father gave my a paper bag to breath into trying to catch it. For me it is definitely a physiological response ... a friend from my childhood's father passed away mistaking a heart attack for a panic attack because he had panic disorder. it is complicated
Can someone help me understand what happened to me?
I was reflecting on what I did, already feeling depressed, then I suddenly started gasping for air.
I was crying.
I had a splitting headache.
I felt like my mind had cracked.
I remember wanting to die, not feel like I was dying.
I was struggling to breathe and shuddering out what I was breathing, so I have no clue if I was laughing.
I was feeling depressed, except this time I didn’t know how to handle it bc I haven’t felt depressed in 4 years.
In that moment I’d given up trying to live. I didn’t attempt to take my life though. I was just lying in bed while all this happened.
I’m not asking for a diagnosis, just asking peoples opinion on if this fits a panic attack, anxiety, or neither
6:55 Yes! Having fear of panic attacks is a huge cause of panic attacks
I had panic attacks since the first time I can remember. I vomited every single day going to school. Nowadays, I think they are just anxiety, since I don't get nausea anymore, shortness of breathing is rare: I think my body is fine, I need to work on the mind.
I did exposure therapy as well. Different exposure tasks one of them was breathing through a thin straw. My therapist said that most patients really hate this task, but I really love it and it calms me like no other.
1:37 panic attacks and disasociative maybe? for me I disassociate during panic attacks. Although not always during just panic attacks
I think I have mini panic attacks, but have never had a full on panic attack (not diagnosed for any thing mental illness btw). I've found that if I figure out how to fully breathe in, like the type of breath that fills your lungs and gives you chest that feeling of stretching from the inside, hold then exhale, and just keep doing that, it can make the panic go away.
Hope anyone reading this has a great Sunday and upcoming week ♥️
I am super late to this conversation, but I've had panic attacks all my life. I am hyper sensitive to my body feelings and emotions. Any little feeling I have , I get triggered. I start obsessing with the thought that this feeling is going to be something very serious, and eventually kill me. I have been on different types of meds and therapy. I am going to look into neurofeedback therapy. I don't know what to expect but I'm getting older and being like this is a curse! I have also tried exposure therapy and have different interoceptives to practice but I need a serious brain reset.
Not certain if I’m having panic attacks or what’s going on but thanks to this video, Monday I’m going to get an appointment with my doctor ASAP and start with a med eval.
As someone w panic disorder this video really helps :)
I've had ptsd and panic disorder for 15+ years. I wish someone had suggested a lot earlier to get a good therapist. I think earlier better intervention would have helped immensely. I'm still trying to "fix" my fear of panic attacks. I've tried so many meds over the years and have landed on lexapro, prazosin for the nightmares and klonopin for the panic. The klonopin was a last resort as nothing else was touching it. I was at the point I wasn't leaving the house or doing anything at all. It still affects my life a great deal but I can leave the house and do some things. I just haven't been able to break through the big fears like driving or working again. I'm so terrified I'm going to panic that it keeps me paralyzed in inaction. Due to klonopin I haven't had an actual panic attack in about a year. Still get anxiety but not a full on panic attack. If you have any advice for someone who's been struggling this long that would be awesome. I'd love to get off the meds someday. I hate having to take them.
Hello, I'm sorry you've been dealing with both PTSD and Panic disorder.
Honestly I've been dealing with the same issues. Lexapro was the best option for me but I also wanted to recommend "Cognitive Behavior Therapy" specifically.
I saw a major breakthrough at 3 months of therapy and now after 6 months I'm starting to notice my personality and perspectives change for the better.
I struggle with getting my anxiety under control but it's a lot better than it used to be.
My depressive symptoms are much more under control to the point I rarely have depressive symptoms.
I also recommend exercise, volunteer work, and some kind of faith based practice that will get you connected with a community.
Hope this helps
@empiricalscout4537 I've been on lexapro for many years. Klonopin as well. Did cbt for many years. It only did so much. I've been trying more dbt and act bc I think exposure is what's going to help. I'm not a religious person but I did join a fb group for Iocal women trying to meet friends.
I could use some advise: I'm 18 M and working as a security guard in a conbination of overnight and afternoon work. The area I work in has consistant gunfire almost daily. I did get one panic attack about a month ago in the night shift and I lasted about 2 hours breaking down in the guard shack with the door locked. I couldn't even look out the window because of paranoia of being watched or in immediate danger. Being all alone, I was barely able to tell someone until I stopped crying and shaking. Now I just do my job and not think too hard about it, although I do occasionally get the feeling of what I believe a is panic attack encroaching. I don't struggle too much now, but I am worried it could just happen around people suddenly. What do?
Well, have you considered moving to another job? I understand it's putting a severe strain on your mental health (not surprisingly), and if you could live in a quieter environment and work with a therapist for some time, that'd be helpful.
You know, taking this to an extreme, one could as well ask: "I've lost my eyesight when a bomb exploded, how do I return to my combat soldier duty?"
Holy shit that's traumatic. From what I know about trauma imbedded in the nervous system, much of the panic attack process is from not having been able to flee or fight a traumatic situation. You were unable to defend against a threat, basically pinned down, and with no experiential tools to process your situation. So that is PTSD in a nutshell. Definitely go to a professional, tell them your experience. All of this "body" work we're all talking about is the treatment (EMDR, somatic experiencing, etc etc). Do that with a professional who can guide you through helping your body making "sense" of what you went through. (just FYI I'm not a dr. so this isn't medical advice, but I've truly studied this stuff for 3 years now as a degreed social scientist. I have C-PTSD and Panic attacks since a traumatic experience at 14 where I couldn't escape (so, PTSD) until now (I'm almost 40), I'm able to work through them after all my body work. I can "reason" now. Got off meds 2 years ago because the work I did... worked. I used the meds to help myself reason through how I was feeling in the moment while becoming the un-hitched "observer" of those feelings.)
(Second edit, get a nice desk job. What you're describing is traumatic craziness. Get out, do anything else. The money is never worth your sanity.)
@@emilyloucks5907 Yeah, currently working towards a nicer small business accounting position. Amazing insight from you by the way, I guess life taught me the hard way, so even at 18 I'm just subconsciously not dealing with mental issues as proactively as I could.
Edit: Congrats on your progress!
Just got a big project after being stuck self studying for years. I'm really panicking and making alot of mistakes trying to figure out how to tackle it. hope this video will helps😅
I started having my first panic attacks last week, it's very apt timing that these videos are coming out now! Edit(making great progress quitting caffeine and weed and exercising more. Saw a doctor and have been taking serotonin reuptake for a couple weeks. Aiming to quit smoking cigarettes soon as well!
Wow... The timing of this video! I just finished watching a Psychonauts 2 video on PSI King Sensorium (which features panic attacks heavily).
Saving this to my Watch Later so I can watch watch when I wake up!!
I had panic attacks for a few years and then they went away. I haven't had one in about 15 years now.
18:15 yeah when I told my doctor about my panic attacks (I didn't seek medical help immediately, I had them for a while just knowing it was panic attacks), he got me to do a thyroid test
I’m trapped on SSI and caused my first panic attack at 30. Don’t have the money to do anything so it’s a revolving wheel of anxiety panic attacks leading to extreme fatigue and then back again to panic attacks. It’s horrible. I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy but the problem is that no one can see it and assume I’m fine.
the thing I came here was not answered at all. Why suddenly ? I mean, why did it happen out of the blue? For the one writing in the text, for me too. Everything was normal and then something clicked? I think it's really important to identify the trigger of the first panic attack but is there science behind why did it just happen all of a sudden when everything seemed pretty normal? My guess is that it was probably stress piling up.
Would love some advice on how to help someone else who is having a panic attack
Show them this video
...you are not responsible for other people, even a friend.They are the ones in charge of their mind and body. But you can help them help themselves.
@@reallivebluescat So if my girlfriend is having a panic attack when shes sitting next to me I just just what? walk away?
Ground them. Be calm, help them focus on something that's right here, right now, let your calm mood infect them, instead of visa-versa. Hold their hand, firmly but gently, talk to them, ask them to recite a poem with you, or sing a song, that's what my dad used to do when I had these attacks.
When I have a panic attack all I need is SPACE. I need space to breathe and I don't like people interacting with me only to a minimum. But I guess it depends on the individual.
Benzos can absolutely work for some people. If your panic attacks are infrequent and taking a benzo can 'stop' it in its track---- just knowing you have the Benzo as a safety net can help you work on regaining self-confidence and go out and do things. But this only works if you use Benzo as a safety net and nothing more. I've been using Benzos for more than 15 years in this manner. Never changed the dose
Panic attacks are fucking scary holy shit, Im so lucky to have only experienced it once and even then its a traumatic experience
just at the right time as usual 😊😊😊
Tbh i have panic disorder but my panic attacks are not affecting my breath as much, also my heart is not hurting, it just beats super fast. But doom thoughts and all the stuff fits.
I was 2 week on benzodiazepines and ssris now left benzo and only ssris.
They work for me quite nice. I had some side effects but they are getting more and more mild.
I dont have particular trauma that i can think of that could cause anexiety or smth.
I had extreme gerd which led to shortness of breath very bad and a horrible cough. This lead me to think something was wrong with my lungs. It also made me vomit and cough so hard that I would have my gag reflux activate and make me vomit. I work at a call center and speaking made me cough which made me get sick often. Eventually this developed into me getting panic attacks from fear of getting sick again and the breathing issues also induced panic attacks. Long story short once I got my Gerd under control it fixed everything after a week of a new diet and medication for the gerd. In conclusion, I hate gerd
Ive had panic disorder for 25 years now. Benzos are the absolute only thing that has made life possible for me. But every time i move to a new state i need to fight fot it. Doctors are so judgmental.
What helped me was doing absolutely nothing. Not reacting in any way to the fear and just observe the feeling in my body.
My first no-mind state, and the panic attack that followed, caused me PTSD. It made me see myself in the mirror for the first time. Second time wasn't bad, but I couldn't stay in it for long due to the mounting dread from the first time coming back. After that, I developed tinnitus, I suppose as a defense mechanism to prevent my mind from reaching that state any more. Last night I started experiencing the same sensation in my sleep and woke up to my scream. Earlier this year I begun to understand that my entire life is the result of three decades of repressed trauma.
Shit dude, I had litterally the same experience with substances first time powerfull as fuck with panic attack then a less powerful one. Not so sure about tinnitus but I've had some strong headaches(maybe it was due to tinnitus). Also experinced it at night a couple of times in a sober state it went deep one time and woke me up with hearth beating max bpm. Do you have any advice for headaches? Also I'm still scared AF of the experience happpening again so whenever things feels like a 'come up' I feel like I am entering a anxious panicky mode, do you have the same if so how do you deal with it.
I have panic disorder and agoraphobia, its awful :(
My panic attacks have continued for months because the first one cause a fear of having more (which creates them).
General tips to bring your mind back to your body: chewing gum!!! or any strong taste, put your head in a bowl of cold/ice water, flicking a rubber band against your wrist
I used to have attacks 3 times a day for a month. My panic attacks stopped when i allow it to happen. I haven’t had a panic attack in 5 years. Flow with it don’t fight it. It goes away and stop.
thank you for talking me through impending doom❤️
Therapy and CBD have changed my life. Really helped with my overall anxiety and panic attacks. When I feel physically panicked I can take CBD and it seriously takes the edge off and I can more easily manage the situation and it has helped me actually get out, do things and expose myself.
I’ve only ever had one panic attack, and that’s when I took too brave a dose of RSO (I tripped on a cloud and fell 8 miles high; I tore my mind on a jagged sky) and when you get cooked, it’s almost impossible to tell yourself THE BEST of lies, so I kinda skipped around outside trying to escape my horrendous self… managed to calm myself down, but holy shit, was that a bad trip!
I used to get panic attacks far too often around the turn of the century. What I found out recently is that, to the observer, Panic Attacks look similar to Heart Attacks & 0verdoses.
my panic attack always makes me throw up so i fear going anywhere cause i could throw up and its embarissing is there anything you can do when you throw up from panic
I just had my first panic attack a couple days ago. I'm so glad this topic came up now. I didn't even think to Google anything and it came up in my CZcams feed. Does anyone have any tips on bringing the heart rate down and getting back to normal?
my most successful strategy has always been making myself cold. turning on a fan, taking a cold shower, stepping outside if its cold. I really freeze myself out, which helps with the nausea I get and frequently makes me shiver a bit, which I think helps dispense some of the extra energy.
From 11 onwards I've had panic attacks frequently and excessive anxiety well before that. I never realized what was going on I also have ADHD. The anxiety has settled down now and the panic attacks are less frequent. Only now at 22 I feel like I can start living life. I never had treatment because I didn't know what was going on. I got medication for ADHD and for that my blood pressure had to be measured. At that exact moment I had a panic attack which at this moment are less severe than they used to be. Still, 170/110 Blood pressure with 118 bpm sitting completely still. It raised the eyebrow of the GP. But at that point I still had no idea what was going on... The GP also didn't know. I'm now considering treatment.
It almost made it so I didn't qualify for the meds. Luckily I was allowed to measure blood pressure at home for a few days, what do you know completely normal blood pressure and heart rate. 118/65 59 bpm
100% a physiological activation of my separation anxiety / abandonment trauma. FML.
ME, been having such a bad one all night after getting broken up with after 4 years
You are a good teacher.
Hi Doc,
I got my first panic attack laat year in the train going to work. I said to myself last time i go to work and was housebound for 2/3months. Now my world is growing slowly but still not able to work.
I wanna ask my therapist to get ssri's to help me do exposure and go to work.
- which one is least addictive but effective too? I quit smoking 5 years ago so im able to quit shit.
- you said panic attack is a symptom. Could general high stress life be the root cause of the panic attack? Im thinking about traumatic event but csnt think of a particular event. Yes high stress growing up but not one event.
After lockdown it felt scared to go far from home which triggers anxiety. Everything felt scared like being around people and shit. Im not social anxious tho
Dr K thank you so much, this hit way too close to home lol, as someone with quite bad substance abuse issues, this **** tail ended me
I had a string of panic attacks 4 years ago, the first 2 i called an ambulance for, you're 100% right in that you're SURE its time to die, felt somewhat mocked/not taken seriously, the 3rd one I had a week or so later was so awful but I couldnt afford medical bills so i endured what felt like a week of hell in one night....entire body went cold, and shivery and I didnt know what to do but lay there.........so local GP prescribes xanax......highest dose id take regularly was close to 50-70mg of xanax a day for over a year, if i wasnt stoned on xanax id self medicate with excessive drinking YES i know both cnds did not care just wanted it gone.
currently on a long term taper with a psychiatrist and im down to 10mg of valium a day and on 150mg of effexor (rough eqv 2mg xan=10mg val)
cannot wait to end my relationship with benzos forever, shouldnt be legal.
I just had my first one last night. im one week into concerta and zoloft so thats probably what caused it. For some reason I thought I was dying from blood clots idk. I have general anxiety so i thought it was that but this attack was so scary I had 911 already typed in case I felt like I was losing consciousness. This video came out at the best time, thank you.
Where does Dr.K talk about the no mind state? Seems like it didn't have much to do with the video but I'm interested in that
Breathing techniques is the most important thing to learn of you suffer from panic attacks or anxiety. Learn to breathe, it helps with many anxiety related issues.
I NEVER experienced a panic attack until just a few months ago. i had 2 weeks off work for vacation, when i returned back that first Monday I started having these small panic attack episodes, it got worst throughout the week (it freaked me the F out), and by the weekend they completely went away. I always wondered if it was because i was overwhelmed with work upon returning or if I was so sad my vacation was over it was stressing me out 😔
Happened to me as well after a 2 week trip. Night before I went back in to work my heart rate sky rocketed out of nowhere while I was watching anime.
@@carloschiriboga4078 wow that’s wild. Must definably be something with having no work responsibilities and living live worry free for a short while.. then all of a sudden snapping back to reality again..
@@ChristinaMagma I would definitely watch the long video on burn out from dr k if you haven’t already. Most of the time we’re burned out from work and don’t know, but we can def recover. Best of luck!
@@littlecurrybread oh dr. K is awesome! Will check it out 👍
Idk man i just try not to freak out at all but when it happens I just try to get good control over myself so I do not die... It's hard to explain but for me simply unlike anyone else it can be pretty hard, a struggle, and very challenging but like when it happens and it happens in that moment I just try not to get there or die lol I had only had like 1 I said ONE panic attack in my life time and man was that a dousy... I'd usually and normally have this distinct feeling of anxiety now and haven't had a panic attack like never thankfully but I now know the difference between the two... One for me personally it's like you getting yourself there to the state in a rush of fear or as "panic" it says in itself kicking into overdrive of flight or fight mode you know but as for anxiety that's just all about me worrying or as a thing very "normally" as some people have said to me I find it very annoying and not so normal to me at all like I can't control it normally anymore as if I had ever had it to begin with but yeah I take medication for that to help me...
The 3 times I had, I was in a car. I thought it was bad nausea, or stroke or something like that. I was trying to stay conscious, paralyzed in my sit.
Thank you for this BECAUSE I have had 2 in the last month andddd... NOT FUN.
Anxiety atk and panic atk is dif in my experience
for me Anxiety atk comes on slower you have a hint that it is coming and is easier to deal with i often use simple math so the Anxiety atk does not turn in to a full blown panic atk
Panic atk's for me come on instantaneously with no warning signs a lot of the time and there is no thinking about what to do during one there is only i am dying and must go go to the ER or call ambulance I take Ativan on the daily but if for some reason i did not and end up having a PA Benzo's take a while to take effect so sometimes i can take one and hold out long enough for it to start to work and sometimes i cant and have to get to an ER
IT IS INSANELY frustrating & debilitating
I'm only 7 minutes in and this is hitting deep oh wow
I'm at 10:31 now and this is so validating for me, because I struggle putting words to these feelings and thoughts that I go through in the moment.
11 minutes in: that's literally been the way I've been working on my panic attacks because I'm not in therapy yet. I started with working on my "adaptation" because I hurt the people I loved and that hurt me so that needed some ✨adjustment ✨
And then I moved up to my interpretation and working on my mindset and perspective and tweaked at that and now I'm getting to where I can recognize when it's starting long before it actually starts. You've taken years of clutter and chaos in my brain and made it into a nice and neat format and I genuinely appreciate that.
This was incredibly informative thank you so much. It's been a few years since I've had a physical and I've gained weight and have been less active in the last few years more than I ever have, I'm going to ask my husband about getting us a physical done on myself and then going from there.
If this isn't a panic attack, it could 10,000 other things. I would see a functional medicine doctor who will actually go in depth with you.
THANK YOU
9:34 what worked for my panic attacks was SSRIs and now I don't have then anymore
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Hey so this is the funniest shit. I took shrooms right and Dr Ki skipped to this part of the video because I’m trying to figure WHAT DO I DO. Dr K in the nicest way xD cause I’m laughing my ass off but WHERE IS THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR WHAT DO I DO for the panic attack.i love you btw dr k xD❤
damn I just discovered this is what I have since I was a kid, panic attacks and anxiety
I got my first panic attack 1 month ago and it was fucking scary