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'This is our 1937 moment' - warning from new Army chief
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2022
- The head of the Army has delivered a speech in London saying this is the moment to defend the democratic values that define us.
In his first public speech, General Sir Patrick Sanders promised to do everything in his power to ensure the British Army plays its part in averting war.
Claire Sadler was at the conference where she listened to the speech.
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Time and time again over the last 30 years (yes, even during Gulf War I and Gulf War II), how often have we been told by politicians that the days of great land-battles in Europe are over and the British Army needed to solely concentrate on rapid reaction and anti-terror duties? Fact is, nobody needs an army - until, suddenly, you do. And here we are.
Here we are: not needing a war at all.
1918 - everybody to war for no reason
1914. In 1918 they all stopped fighting each other
Yes this is more like 1914 than 1937
@George Costanza ww1 saw 100,000s of Brit's die, call me crazy if I'm OK throwing Ukraine under the bus to avoid a horror show like ww1. There's nothing wrong with fighting and dieing to protect our country but the politicians and elite shouldn't expect up to fight and (die in the 1000s if not 10,000 or 100,000) to protect the Ukrainian's country
I will join the British army if it is put back were it should be, it's just sad the government doesn't see that a strong force is one not to be reckoned with otherwise they would nether have chopped our defence budget down in the first place.
I agree, yet people still vote for them. They bought the country to its knees the last time they where in power, and they are doing so again.
Go join the British army! The army of Little Britain :)
A country that is committing suicide culturally, country with no energy, no natural resources, no manufacturing ( all outsourced and ruined) … only finance is left. Even that is on its way out. What will you fight for? For BoJo? Liz Truss?
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if only pootin couldve been diplomatic instead of a terrorist and we _STILL_ wouldnt need big military spending. He brought us back to the cold war/WW status. So be it, get wrecked pootin
You’re off your head. The British Army will have no power to fight anyone! Logistically we are miles behind!
Your time has come
Didn't President Donald Trump say years ago that NATO was lagging in their defence budgets and they need to increase their spending urgently ???? Maybe European leaders where too busy crying over some mean tweets instead of paying heed .
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
@@eternalgamer674 I'm sure that idea comforts every Ukrainian at night.
The Donald says whatever comes to mind with no filters. Sometimes we need that.
He was a great leader. Said it how it was
@@xkeyscore1120 He was the worst president the USA has had since Buchanan. He had the same effect by dividing the country as Buchanan did over 150 years ago.
Wonder how many comments have been deleted? ?
Soros, Klauss Shwab,Billy Gates they are waiting for that moment...
We need to buy more ships bigger army more tanks etc and more planes
Вы не учли некоторые факты, что в этой военной технике будут гибнуть простые люди, которых мобилизовали. Вся эта ситуация происходит, из-за мирового финансового кризиса, выход из которого один война, как в 1914м. И в этой войне будут участвовать все. И применение ядерного оружия, это вопрос времени, которое не принесёт добра ни вам, ни вашим врагам, которых объявляют ваши власти.
Мир вашему дому!!!
no we don't.... we are literally tooling up with some of the best gear on the planet, if anything the spending is about right... i don't want more aggresive spending we don't need it
some of our allies might need it though, so we should help them
@@DarkShroom Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley и другие банкиры говорят о рецессии мировой экономики. Federal Reserve System зашёл в тупик с базовой учётной ставкой. Таргетирование инфляции большого успеха не даёт. Цены на нефть тоже не делают ситуацию лучше. Покупательская способность населения, падает. Закредитованость населения растёт. Падение фондовых бирж. Это проблемы во всем мире.
Выход из этой ситуации, как думают наши власти один, и это война. И поэтому идёт рост военных расходов уже несколько лет. И рассказ Джона Стэндбека "Гроздья гнева" покажутся нам детской забавой.
You can’t afford it. And you lack natural resources to do anything. Plus you are bankrupt.
@C D we only have 150 main tanks. Awful
This guy is thanking his lucky stars he won't have to deal with defense budget cuts for once in his career
the British army is one of the best equiped and funded in the world... and they have always managed that.... even back in the old thatcher and fall of the empire days they spent frugally on things we needed
it's so laughable therefore to read comments like this when you really know about the different world armies... the British forces really punch above their weight
@@DarkShroom When Sir Patrick Sanders joined the Army in 1986, defense spending was 4.53% of GDP, halfway into his career in 2004 it was 2.25% of GDP, as of 2019 it was 1.75% of GDP.
I think you're interpreting my remarks as an insult towards the British Military when it is not intended as such (I actually respect it very highly), but the fact is inescapable that defense spending has become less and less of a priority for the British Government until very recently. I am not the first to notice this.
@@hanswolfgangmercer us Americans are going to fall into civil war
Meanwhile the tories have reduced the Army by 20% since 2011 (all that expertise wasted). No wonder he's sounding the alarm bells.
Exactly. And any civilians that actually do sign up will be used as cannon fodder.
0:12 dude is literally sleeping! 😂
This guy is delusional. His country went from Great Britain to Little Britain that has no energy, no manufacturing… only finance is left. Even that is on its way out. And he wants fight Russia? Russia???? 😂😂😂
Indeed, these men are dangerous 🚨
@@anafernandes225 yas The only idiots in agreement with this old man would be The English folk…. yes send them off to war, hundreds of thousands dead make room for more immigrants by the time the war is over England Great Britain wont juss be little Britain? It will be no more!
It is very worrying to know that this delusional idiot is head of the Army!
World economic forum stooge
Now is the time to mobilise the Home Guard
Who do you think you are kidding?
🤣 😂 🤣 hope that includes pro noun badges
At the same time, Army is being reduced. British Army is being asked to do so much with so few. How do you hold and take ground ?
Since when do Politicians listen to Soldiers?
I will believe it when I see it. All of Western Europe has VERY expensive social welfare programs. Every country has a party that is either socialist in name or in actual practice. They fight tooth and nail to direct money to help finance the costly social welfare network. To be fair, I've read how much they are paid, and it's an insult they are paid so low wages. Can Europe do both - pay their healthcare workers what they deserve AND increase their military budgets???
that's cos social welfare provably provides more security than many other types of spending and the voters want it
for example with your mentality you will just throw more guns and bombs at the problem like in Iraq... what gives real security is providing Iraq with infrastructure so they don't turn to jyhad
Hurry up and press that nuclear button, you know you want to.
Putin and Jinping have taken notes from If You Give A Mouse A Cookie, and soon they're going to want the entire world on a plate if we don't do more to stop them now.
Can we keep the tanks now!
If we want to prevent war later we need to give the Ukrainians more MLRS systems with medium and long range missile capability and cruise missiles immediately. And we have to accept Ukraine will hit strategic and military targets within Russia.
We also need to supply a robust modern medium-to-long range SAM system to block the barbaric missile attacks against critical infrastructure & population centers.
If Ukrainians hit russian territory with Nato missiles it would increase tension and risk direct confrontation with Russia given that we would be by proxy attack Russia territory
"we"???
The anonymous coward brigade?
Grow up.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray I've no idea what your drivel outbust is on about.
Surely, if UA hit Russia with NATO supplied weapons, this would lead to war with Russia "later"?? Edit: Just realised that you are a Yank and have no concept of reality. Ignore initial message....
Funny to see the commentators being eager to di3 as cann0n f0dder for multinational companies
Me? I can't go - I'm on a mental wellness programme
At last somebody that has sense, I salute you.
I can think of a couple of precedents in scale off the top of my head, that time the Japanese tourists got off the bus in china? Or that one time when Poland was deleted from existence if its territory you're talking.
GOOD 👍😊
Take your hand out your pocket Sir
I like what Gonzalo Lira II in Ukraine said about him in the 13th minute of his You Tube channel video '22.06.2021 The Sitz Krieg We're In'. Check it out. Ps Greetings from British Forces Cyprus.
Gonzalo Lira is a POS Kremlin shill
When at peace, prepare for war
Little Britain is delusional.
Why? We don't need a war, we need unity of the working class.
I wonder what the hell NATO is waiting for open volunteer massive training in order to reinforce its forces ? Additionally when is NATO going to develop long range massive artillery & rockets, and missiles like the ISKANDER, and set them in Poland, Romania, baltics, etc ? In fact they already have the ATACAMS, but in very low numbers.
Set iskander in your home... And prepare training for your self ... Good bless you...Enjoy your ideas...
First wave of conscripts should be all those earning well over the average wage, (34,500p/a) who have benefited most from a very British privileged society (age irrelevant)
NATO in 1990 began its territorial expansion eastwards until its latest war in Ukraine.
We are no longer the good guys sadly.
Nato is not expanding from a central point - it is growing from memberstates applying. Mostly to escape Russians Terror regim.
Bingo. It’s about time somebody spoke the truth. Reading most comments here, there are so ma h braindead sheep willing to die for corporations and politicians.
that's how Putin see's it.... however it's not the case we "expanded"... same as the old days of the soviet union it's that people kept running towards us
you might have a cynicim resulting from pointless middle eastern conflict but trust me with eastern europe people do not want to be ruled by Putin
@@DarkShroom I appreciate that they fear Russia and with good reason.However the war in Ukraine was long in the planning and the ultimate goal is the destruction of Russia regardless of how many Ukrainians belorussians or Kazakhs it may take.
@@DarkShroom Russia swallowed the idea of Nato expanding eastwards to include the Warsaw pact countries and the baltic states but drew the reddest of red lines around any further expansion of nato to include ukraine and georgia. Nato choose to ignore those red lines and that is why Russia invaded. Nato caused this war..
Nato is no longer the good guys. After winning the cold war against the USSR, the West humiliated Yeltsin and Russia instead of trying to recruit a post communist Russia, along with Ukraine and Belarus, far more into the western camp. Soon after Putin came to power he asked when Russia was going to be invited to join Nato only to be rebuffed and told to apply like anyone else even though they were a nuclear power and we had not required our former enemy West Germany to apply to join Nato. A few years later in 2009, Nato announced that Ukraine and Georgia could apply to join which was clearly a hostile act directed at an excluded Russia. Nato ended up recreating the Cold War, mainly due to the need for Nato to have an enemy and to justify continued military expenditure! Nato created all the conditions for the mess we are in. The solution is to sit around the table and end the war in Ukraine before WW3 becomes inevitable.
Nato has not been a force for good ever since the fall of the USSR. Nato bombed civilians in Belgrade, annexed Kosovo by force and turned Kosovo into a mafia state, so setting a post WW2 precedent for Russia to change boundaries by force. Nato/the west caused the Bosnian civil war by first announcing a referendum on independence when (a) the Bosnian Serbs said they were boycotting it and (b) they confirmed the result of independence although the turnout failed to achieve the required two thirds turnout.
Nato and the west were close supporters of the 2014 violent coup in Ukraine that overthrew the democratically elected pro Russian president and gave full support to the subsequent anti Russian, ultra nationalist governments of ukraine which led to the civil war and invasion. The west takes exception to any suggestion of Russian interference in the internal affairs of another state whilst hypocritically openly interfering in the internal affairs of other countries themselves! Just look at the pressure they are putting on Hungary where they clearly back opposition to Viktor Orban.
Above all Nato interventions have always left countries worse off than before and their actions have resulted in millions of refugees pouring into Europe from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya to the detriment of Europe. Nato policies have proved to be strongly against Europe's interests. Ukraine is simply the latest failed state left in the wake of failed Nato/Western interventions but this time Nato has picked a fight in the backyard of a nuclear power and has bitten off more than they can chew. Hungary, Slovakia and neutral Austria recognise the truth, the folly and the danger of the totally reckless Nato leadership and how Nato has greatly damaged Europe since the fall of the USSR.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 1939. Let's make another lock down...
Is No one seeing this BS! Where on this Earth are we gong to fight this WAR? Wake up and smell the cordite! If the British Army thinks for one moment that it can Actually Engage in Battle! Then I am sorry to say ( GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE ) smh
Were better equipped than Russia and together with the rest of NATO or even just europe we would annihilate Russia (if we ignore Nukes). Come on Russia couldn't even quickly defeat a country like Ukraine
Build up the Forces . Its been a damned joke in the last 30 years. Bad enough in 1981 !
we are literally one of the best equipped armies in the entire world... i think people who say this don't know what toys we have
it's because of the fall of the British Empire and therefore a sense of decline that the older generations experienced... stuck in a sun newspaper mentality of the past
I hope they don't go for conscription. Men won't fight for a country that has betrayed them.
Ukraine is NATO’s fault who encouraged them to fight a war they could never win . There are 3 main powers in the world and each needs its own sphere of influence and buffer zone . Smaller weaker countries in their orbit must be neutral to survive as history has shown but become hostile or side with an adversary then you will suffer the consequences as Ukraine is suffering now . As for uk forces they are like every incarnation since Edward 1 , highly trained and effective but small with the channel our moat . Our forces material in a full scale war would be exhausted in 8 days and our trained soldiers decimated inside a month . Russia since the breakup of the Soviet Union has mostly shored up conflict on its borders or traditional allies like Syria whereas Nato has become involved all over the world and expanded by 13 countries towards its equal in Russia , who is the aggressor?
Sound like another Russian speaking.....
Russia is the aggressor it invaded Ukraine
true pincer good point
Everybody is rushing abroad to leisure amusements : This is to expect if nuclear warfare starts - I doubt about Western preparations for atomic theatre, Sir General Sanders & the MoD. Pluralistic Democracy has this implication.
Since when did this conflict have anything to do with us?
When did lebensraum and German expansion east In 1930’s have anything to do with us, appeasement and isolationism is the tactic of cowards
Since when did it not?
@@vortex1601 Nothing, those things had nothing to do with Britain. Germany was actually shocked when Britain refused an alliance and instead went to the Soviets.
Appeasement, isolationism, the cries of a fool who does not understand the situation he finds himself in. What ability does Britain have to fund a war with Russia as its infrastructure crumbles, debt becomes unmanageable and social issues destroy any ability for a unified country?
And in conducting that war, what appeasement does Britain free itself of? A war against Russia appeases the US, who are - like WWI and II - interested only in an unstable Europe.
Since we spent the past 20 years appeasing the US with its wars in the Middle East, I think enough appeasing has been done for foreigners. How about we appease the British by not sending their sons to die? Or is it cowardice to refuse to give your life so Ukraine can enjoy the wonders of homosexuality and transgender kids?
@@TheDrummingWarrior Since it was part of a country a thousand miles away while the country we live in crumbles around us.
@@GearheadVO big facts 💯
Blessed are the cheesemakers!
Monty Python just get funnier.
Patrick can you help me get over, forgive, forget Kirk Thompson the one man crime WAVE x
Respect!
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I would gladly see this general offer a modern version of single combat against a russian general...surely he would do that in exchange for the lives he will save??
Hands cold? Get your hands out your pockets or sow them up.
.lol
Stand strong uk forces
Putting hands in pockets is only frowned upon on parade ..
@@dennisberson9649 lol not what iv experienced in the past lol
@@iamaslavetonoman911 I can’t help or change your experiences mate ..!
Here here !
r/UKCitizenArmy
I fully agree with him!!
There already is a war going on, isn't there? Or have I missed something?
Yes but not one that involves British soldiers
There are a *lot* of wars going on. But he’s talking about preventing and preparing for a war in which the UK is a combatant.
@@Jaxck77 . The audacity of the pirate!
Your goberment found its chump in Zelensky. You and the Americans put up the weapons and the Ukrainians put up the skin. ... Really, that comedian is a brute!
The video answers that question
HANDS OUT YER POCKETS! Right press ups down.
I bet walked across the grass as well!
Get the rank with you can tell him off.
@@marrs1013 im pretty sure only the Queen has the rank. 😃 😀
Well thats the civvies conscripted then.
If you listen carefully and read between the lines, what they are telling us is obvious.
Many will soon needlessly die, because they have been deceived and because they are willing to obey orders and do not seek the truth.
let me guess, you've found this truth?
@@ThePsiclone The Ministry of Truth.
Thepsiclone What is your definition of truth? I did not claim to have found the truth and I said many will die because they have been deceived and do not "seek" the truth.
At the very least, I am seeking it.
@@ThePsiclone the truth is obvious, Russia is a threat to Eastern Europe not the UK and Ukraine isn't worth the lives of British sons and daughters, fathers and mothers being slaughtered to protect some onelse country
Neutrality and Pacifism enable Fascism _ Orwell
Soldiers playing politics.
so what are you suggesting us ukranians should do? die? the weapons you gave are laughable compared to what we are facing
They should make peace, obviously! By the way, Ukraine was a peaceful country until 2014 which was when an ultra nationalist, anti russian revolution seized power and it was that revolution and western backing for it which caused the civil war. The invasion of 2022 was caused by Nato refusing to negotiate on ukraine remaining neutral. This war is nato's war.
Furthermore,have you ever asked yourself why Ukraine should rule Russian speaking majority areas in ukraine like Crimea and the Donbas against their will? They had been content to be part of ukraine before the ultra nationalist ukrainians took over. but not afterwards.
I should also explain that Ukraine's borders were never intended to be that of an independent state when they were drawn up by Stalin and Kruschev on a whim but here we have the insanity of the west defending Stalin's and Kruschev's borders as a matter of deep principle, forgetting of course, that nato had set the precedent for changing European borders by force by forcibly annexed Kosovo from Serbia !
Go UK 🇬🇧
... to defend the democratic values that define you people? ... To honor the truth, what you must announce is: ..., to defend the British interest in preserving its influence and its current and historical possibilities of continuing to interfere; abuse and theft in poor and developing countries.
I'm not going to say I disagree but respect your opinion, because I don't. You're just wrong and too naive to see it
He's probably a sponger
i disagree and respect your opinion
as someone that knows about the rest of the world i get it... however if you think that everyone hates us your absolutly wrong.... we have an image problem at the moment due to the middle east and Blair squandering our armed forces
realisticly though if i'm running a country that is not based on violence and oppression, i need the support of the west and i don't need to be pushed around by ISIS
Recruit us in common wealth nations.
That's a funny rope he has on
Why’s it funny ?
That is a forrage which is a special and distinct decoration. In US the Marine 5 & 6 regiments proudly wear them as a decoration from France during WWI. We Marines who do not deserve that distinction call them "Pogey Ropes". Jealous? Yup?
In our Corps you may only wear it while serving in either Regiment. I never wore one, my son did.
@@10actual why would he wear one though ? He’s not a Marine .!
@@dennisberson9649 because it looks like the sash for a stage curtain, not something one would adorn a uniform with.
@@dennisberson9649 because he he is a Knight Commander of the Order of Bath
He's had to issue this warning as the Tories have reduced our military capability significantly.
Fantastic word salad 🥗
1937 Moment? Surely he means 1939 moment, and in any case he should refrain from expressing personal political opinions. Has he never heard of Queen's Regulations or are they no longer applicable. There is nothing new about the philosophy of preserving peace by being prepared for war. to that extent he is right to have an agenda for the future for the armed forces. Getting politicians to agree to his agenda and the numerical status of the armed forces is always a battle for military top brass.
1939 was when Britain and France declared war on Germany, people including Winston Churchill, had been warning that we should be preparing for war for years but the government of the time just appeased Hitler thinking that it would be better to avoid war.
He was not making a political statement, he was making a strategic statement as head of the Army.
@@peterbrown1012 the difference is that in 1937 german was a viable threat, Russia would struggle to take on even Poland as shown by there failures to quickly take Ukraine. Also even if they did posse a major a threat, they don't posse any threat to use unlike Germany because there too far away and don't even have an anyway decent navy
1937 was the year the Air ministry began to take the threat of Hitler seriously by aquiring farmland for Airfields in Britain and tendering for new Aircraft designs.
The Spitfire was first tested at Supermarine, Southampton in 1937.
Infact R.G Mitchell, never saw it fight in anger, he died of cancer before the Spitfire entered defensive service.
Most of the smaller sattelite Airfields in southern England were purchased in 1937.
RAF middle Wallop, Chilbolton, Thruxton just three examples of Airfield expansion purchased from local farmers to service Boscombe Down Airfield.
1937 was the point at which Britains military realised Germany had secretly amassed the largest Airforce in Europe against the rules of the treaty of Versaille limiting German weapons production and that Britain had fallen way behind on Aircraft and Tank design. Many of the older British Generals still believed another war would be based in Trench warfare like WW1. They also placed too much faith in the maginot line and the treaty of Versaille.
Thankfully some of the more forward thinking had the foresight to see static warfare was long gone and managed to convince politicians like Churchill Britain needed to act fast to modernise. Hitler had supplied Franco with panzers in order to test them in combat in 1937. Those forward thinking military advisors took note of that. It would take Britain until 1943/4 to catch up with German tank design to effectively tackle heavy panzers. Britain invented the tank then sat back during peacetime and neglected to invest in modernisation of its military. Germany on the other hand had sent military advisors to Russia to copy the Russian tank designs between the two wars.
This is the 1937 moment he refers to here. We have now had an oportunity to watch Russias mechanised capability and putins threats. History demonstrates we should not be caught off guard again. We could have done so much more before 1937 but many political figures and military advisors refused to see the threat.
In time of peace, prepare for war..
i guess after years of soldiers being pushed around by politicians the soldiers decided to get more political?
it might be natural when you think about it
@@ljt3084 you say that something was fortunate there but the way i see it we literally got our ass completely kicked by the german stratergy and then we adjusted and played to our own logistical and economical strengths to defeat them
literally everyone was caught off guard by zeee Germans
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