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  • @mms7151
    @mms7151 Před 3 lety +1957

    This rant isn’t grimdark enough.

    • @tomswiftyphilo2504
      @tomswiftyphilo2504 Před 3 lety +84

      maybe the rant just isn't for adults

    • @SparkAce1
      @SparkAce1 Před 3 lety +18

      Obviously this talk isn't mature enough then

    • @Colaman112
      @Colaman112 Před 3 lety +50

      It includes torture (of books). It's definitely grimdark. /s

    • @DanicaChristin
      @DanicaChristin Před 3 lety +2

      😂🤣😂🤣😂

    • @sagitswag1785
      @sagitswag1785 Před 3 lety +31

      @@Colaman112 but a child did not die so it has no literary value.

  • @AmandaTheJedi
    @AmandaTheJedi Před 3 lety +677

    'Okay, this is not a big deal'
    Video is 32 minutes long

    • @jessicamay5598
      @jessicamay5598 Před 3 lety +29

      Amanda, unrelated but it is your duty to hold Daniel to his promise of reviewing midnight sun, because that is a video the world needs!

    • @jessi4894
      @jessi4894 Před 3 lety +12

      Daniel: 10:30 "I'm done!"
      Me: ...There's 22 minutes left. Are you sure?

    • @starmoalitiny
      @starmoalitiny Před 5 měsíci

      @@jessi4894was just about to comment this LOL

  • @Micktrex
    @Micktrex Před 3 lety +1607

    The way Daniel physically treats his books is definitely grimdark.

    • @big_sis_moon
      @big_sis_moon Před 3 lety +21

      Read this comment right when he threw Scythe

    • @carmeldavids8801
      @carmeldavids8801 Před 3 lety +22

      @@big_sis_moon Same.
      I just- He's understandably mad, but his books is not where he should be taking that out!

    • @psykedude
      @psykedude Před 3 lety +23

      I thought you were exaggerating at first, then the horror started

    • @ChristmasLore
      @ChristmasLore Před 3 lety +18

      It's just dumb.
      He's just doing it on purpose.
      The guy has changed so much.
      Getting big hasn't been good for him.

    • @malsummers6515
      @malsummers6515 Před 3 lety +5

      Successful booktuber privilege imarite?

  • @seanwade6074
    @seanwade6074 Před 3 lety +789

    There was no murder in this rant. Therefore, as an adult I cannot take you seriously. Grow up Daniel

    • @jameskilgour387
      @jameskilgour387 Před 3 lety +41

      Did you see what he did to those books. Honestly, it might be worse

    • @GullitaDK
      @GullitaDK Před 3 lety +11

      @@jameskilgour387 don't forget that poor plaque.

    • @alexeng414
      @alexeng414 Před 3 lety +1

      What about books?

    • @mfbond13
      @mfbond13 Před 3 lety +7

      Yeah if I don't see bodies dropping every single second in the content I watch then they don't have any literary value you tell em 😤😤😤 /s

    • @hcstubbs3290
      @hcstubbs3290 Před 3 lety +5

      Upvoting because the goblin man told me not to.

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong Před 3 lety +348

    Daniel with his therapist 1 hour later:
    Need to talk about anything?

    No. I’m good.

  • @braydenmunro2385
    @braydenmunro2385 Před 3 lety +684

    I hate movies, books and shows that think adult, mature and realistic just means more gore and swearing

    • @jacobmaxwell8386
      @jacobmaxwell8386 Před 3 lety +33

      as someone who plays videogames as my my main hobby, I cannot escape. the amount of times I've wanted something that isn't shallow, vapid, over the top violence after tons of reviewers say that its a mature story is overwhelming. Like the amount of people who praise grand theft auto 5 for its torture scenes over its tongue and cheek satire makes me depressed.

    • @ND-gm2vs
      @ND-gm2vs Před 3 lety +5

      I've had this same fucking discussions with my now ex-gf soo many times, for some people the fucked up concept of general target of a story is so fucking engrained in their brain that they can't escape it. Ironically those discussions always ended up with grimdark vibes and attempted murders AND THAT IS A JOKE KIDS THAT STOLE MUM'S IPAD.

    • @Ghilannugs
      @Ghilannugs Před 3 lety +1

      @@jacobmaxwell8386 is this the time for me to recommend Dragone Age?

    • @HeavyTopspin
      @HeavyTopspin Před 3 lety +16

      You forgot gratuitous nudity! That was a running joke in our house, whenever we were watching a show on a premium cable service and suddenly for no reason bare breasts or butt filled the screen (including the requisite "scene which must take place in a strip club"), we'd yell out "It's not television, it's HBO!"

    • @Ghilannugs
      @Ghilannugs Před 3 lety +9

      @@HeavyTopspin the way Game of thrones permanently damaged the idea of what adult television means

  • @viniciuscaparroz4444
    @viniciuscaparroz4444 Před 3 lety +211

    Daniel: gets angry.
    His books: "(Chuckles) I'm in danger"

  • @skystopen7458
    @skystopen7458 Před 3 lety +191

    Daniel, 5 minutes in: that's it, that's the rant
    Also Daniel: continues ranting for 28 more minutes

  • @GullitaDK
    @GullitaDK Před 3 lety +572

    Daniel : "I👏do👏not👏like👏talking👏to👏people!"
    Also Daniel: "if you're going to say stupid things, at least have the decency of not making me have to interact with people."
    😂🤣
    I'm just going to put it out there and say we need more "elitist-asshole"-Daniel in our lives.
    This rant was fantastic.

    • @ArolanTheMediocre
      @ArolanTheMediocre Před 3 lety +11

      Yeah, it was at this moment that I realized Daniel is my spirit animal.

  • @jellybuns5041
    @jellybuns5041 Před 3 lety +193

    I just wanted to say thank you. I've loved reading since I was a kid, but my boyfriend has always hated the idea of reading. I'd try to convince him to pick up a book, but he just wasn't interested.
    I showed him one of your videos. Something you said must have spoke to him and he decided to pick up The Shining. Well, he finished it and came to me and said, "Books are way better than movies! Being in the character's head is so cool!" He loved it so much, he picked up The Stand. Took him less than a month to finish and he loved it even more. Now, he's dipping his toes into fantasy with Mistborn.
    I just hope this message brightens your day and reminds you of the good work you do. I tried for a while, but I could never spark my boyfriend's interest with books. He watched maybe 2 of your videos and has seen the light. There are a lot of loud people out there who probably like to make your job annoying, but I hope this brings you joy. My boyfriend and I have our own little book club now and I couldn't have done it without you!

    • @artistryunicorn928
      @artistryunicorn928 Před 3 lety +8

      awww that's super sweet! I'm happy for you guys.

    • @connoromeara3116
      @connoromeara3116 Před 3 lety +2

      Dang... I wanna know what this video was that sparked his interest so I can watch it (rewatch it?) and hear what Daniel said

  • @citizensguard3433
    @citizensguard3433 Před 3 lety +147

    "If you're gonna say stupid things, at least don't make me interact with people!"
    My favorite quote of the day 😄

  • @freedoughnut1833
    @freedoughnut1833 Před 3 lety +79

    I’m not one of those people Daniel is talking about but seeing him screaming at them makes me feel like when you’re at your friend’s house and suddenly they are having a fight with their mom with you just sitting there and listening awkwardly

    • @anthonycar5182
      @anthonycar5182 Před 3 lety +3

      Watching it at 2x speed I found really enhanced the comedic quality

  • @DuonDRaven
    @DuonDRaven Před 3 lety +373

    Therapist: "So Daniel how was your morning?"
    Daniel: "Well I uploaded a 30 minute rant to the internet and beat the shit out of $300 worth of books in the process..."
    Love this channel XD

  • @glassbakeware
    @glassbakeware Před 3 lety +68

    "You made my friend talk to me" 😂

    • @bensilvers2241
      @bensilvers2241 Před 3 lety +2

      I love this my friend talked to me I’m angry

  • @christianjones1889
    @christianjones1889 Před 3 lety +58

    Daniel: *holds up book*
    Me: “Don’t do it…”
    Daniel: *throws book*
    Me: “You monster!!!”
    Daniel: *does it again*

  • @cookedghost
    @cookedghost Před 3 lety +369

    Alternate title: "How to tell me you're a gatekeeping tryhard without telling me you're a gatekeeping tryhard"
    Also happy therapy Daniel, it does sound like you need it

    • @AaronSherman
      @AaronSherman Před 3 lety +18

      It's not "real therapy" because it's not grimdark :) Very happy that anyone seeks out therapy when and if they feel it would help. Too many friends who have not done so to varying degrees of drastic outcome.

  • @remyblas
    @remyblas Před 3 lety +43

    Daniel: *sits down to rant*
    Book on his shelves: "Oh, no! Not again!"

  • @MariaRodriguez-dx6sm
    @MariaRodriguez-dx6sm Před 3 lety +44

    True, I find a lot of stories with ridiculous amounts of gore and sexual content are very "edgy teenager angst" rather than actually adult.

    • @starsun6363
      @starsun6363 Před 3 lety +3

      *this*

    • @sirgoo9962
      @sirgoo9962 Před 3 lety +3

      People with swearing/violent/edgy = adult content opinions give me subduing rates of cringe

  • @teddyberserker
    @teddyberserker Před 3 lety +174

    “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” - C.S. Lewis

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 3 lety

      @@calebmauer1751 He also did sonthing that could e interprented off snarky atheist stuff. Maybe hae was deeper than narnia

    • @jamesfrederick.
      @jamesfrederick. Před 3 lety +1

      Bro that was so good I had to screen shot it

    • @teddyberserker
      @teddyberserker Před 3 lety +9

      @@calebmauer1751 What does his religion have to do with it?

    • @dunndudebemelol
      @dunndudebemelol Před 3 lety

      That's what I always think of. It's just silly, it's a desire to be seen as adult.

    • @alexisdumas84
      @alexisdumas84 Před 3 lety +1

      @@marocat4749 Judging by the arguments that come out of his "philosophical"/theological books, such as Miracles, he wasn't much deeper than Narnia lol.

  • @citizensguard3433
    @citizensguard3433 Před 3 lety +49

    "You made my friend talk to me. Even my friends... I don't want them to text me too much."
    I have never related to a statement more than this...

  • @lucere3674
    @lucere3674 Před 3 lety +27

    Daniels friend will never live this down in that friend group. I can already hear the group conversation now. "Remember that time you broke Daniel with a text?"

  • @vix86
    @vix86 Před 3 lety +47

    If you want to know why the silver play button has a nice dent in it. Watch this video 🤣

  • @TheRASDEL83
    @TheRASDEL83 Před 3 lety +99

    I love everything about this...
    * it's called "Very Stupid Rant"
    * it starts with " This is NOT a big deal"
    * at 3:05 the "Murder Murder Murder" is gold
    * at 13:30 we need this in more reviews of things Daniel does not enjoy
    * It's 30 min long video of Daniel just venting :P
    The only thing i don't like about this is that I missed it live :P

    • @elsv99
      @elsv99 Před 3 lety

      Eh. Its mid trash. Not grim dark enough. 7/10

  • @bart_ender6116
    @bart_ender6116 Před 3 lety +87

    The scariest part of this is how many books he is throwing.

    • @jellevanbreugel325
      @jellevanbreugel325 Před 3 lety +5

      which is probably the true sign of a mind spiraling out of control.......

    • @GullitaDK
      @GullitaDK Před 3 lety

      @@jellevanbreugel325 lol, what? I genuinely hope this is a joke.

  • @subrsubrr334
    @subrsubrr334 Před 2 lety +5

    Daniel, I swear to god, if I was your friend and I sent you a message and if you uploaded this rant as a reaction, I would never talk to you again.

  • @daedricdragon5976
    @daedricdragon5976 Před 3 lety +51

    Daniel:
    "So we're gonna spend a second talking about it."
    Me: looks at 32 minutes
    "Let's gooooo"

  • @dartagnanjames8069
    @dartagnanjames8069 Před 3 lety +33

    "Hey, guess how I grew as an adult?" *Holds up One Piece*
    Hey! Me too :D

  • @RashidMBey
    @RashidMBey Před 3 lety +44

    Today, the Greene Goblin has become... the Greene Knight, nuancer of criticism and beacon of genuine appreciation.

    • @RashidMBey
      @RashidMBey Před 3 lety +4

      In all seriousness, I appreciate this rant. It's a lively reminder that all genres are valid and worthy of appreciation on a level that can appeal to all adults. A quality book articulates its points and themes well, and that's something not gated by or from adults or genre.

  • @faust13301
    @faust13301 Před 3 lety +15

    Therapist: Show me where the grimdark comments hurt you.

  • @BamadeusTTV
    @BamadeusTTV Před 3 lety +86

    Does this rant count as Grimdark by those peoples standards? cause you certainly murdered their argument

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 3 lety +4

      Not enough dead orphans.

    • @aprils9178
      @aprils9178 Před 3 lety +2

      Idk there is alot of book carnage.

  • @pedrosernagiotto2577
    @pedrosernagiotto2577 Před 3 lety +20

    Daniel 5 minutes in: "So that's the rant"
    Me: "Huh, that was fast"
    *looks at the video timer, and see 25 minutes left*

  • @hasanmahmood3155
    @hasanmahmood3155 Před 3 lety +24

    It's like saying adults can only watch films that are extremely violent lol

  • @JB_exposures
    @JB_exposures Před 3 lety +136

    the number of books being thrown genuinely physically hurts me

    • @Sir_Chimp
      @Sir_Chimp Před 3 lety +8

      I was going say the same thing. I was so afraid the covers were going to be torn. 😥

    • @gurentgc3546
      @gurentgc3546 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Sir_Chimp this rant was grimdark

    • @jackc9175
      @jackc9175 Před 3 lety +3

      Eh let’s be real, Goblin Boi can replace any books he may damage in his vids…

    • @boryanakasabova5184
      @boryanakasabova5184 Před 3 lety +7

      I agree and feel that way on a deeply visceral level. I have books on my shelves I've read several times that look brand new. The way he throws books around makes me cringe.

    • @gurentgc3546
      @gurentgc3546 Před 3 lety +1

      @@boryanakasabova5184 understandable but those are just books.

  • @mycenaeangal9312
    @mycenaeangal9312 Před 3 lety +134

    Someone made a comment about anger management lol. I feel like this was sorta fun angry? Like if Daniel were one of my friends talking specifically to me, I feel like I could diffuse this super easily. It feels non threatening and I think that's very much the key to it remaining amusing.
    I don't know if most people have experiences with the threatening kind (my upbringing maybe skewed my perspective on what's normal there) but if anyone is confused, I think that's the difference.
    I think it's also important to note that things you might think are harmless like destruction of property can be pretty scary for the people who live around you so that's important to think about.

    • @mycenaeangal9312
      @mycenaeangal9312 Před 3 lety +7

      @Anne Day Mhm. I laughed. I also thought it was a good springboard to talk about the subject. So I did. :)

    • @lizardlegend42
      @lizardlegend42 Před 3 lety +2

      I think David Mitchell shows this style of fun angry best.

    • @mischarowe
      @mischarowe Před 3 lety +4

      He was smiling through so much of it so I'm not worried about his anger management.

    • @oscarbautista4156
      @oscarbautista4156 Před 3 lety

      I definitely hope this was him acting "in character", because if he is actually this childish, then no wonder why (Books with) Brittany friend-zoned him

  • @maddu8437
    @maddu8437 Před 3 lety +90

    Ahh yes, the old “no deaths and gore = bad” argument.
    Personally I have more of a problem with the “this thing is a masterpiece BECAUSE it has a lot of deaths and gore”. Like, no? Just because characters die left and right doesn’t make it good story telling. I’d always prefer a well explained revival or fake-out death to an unnecessary death for shock value.

    • @pRahvi0
      @pRahvi0 Před 3 lety +5

      I'm with you in this.
      There are two reasons for explicit depictions of gore or any other "adult content" as far as I know:
      1) naturalism, realism, essentially just stylistic choice of leaving things unpolished, which may or may not enhance the themes and characters
      2) porn
      These, of course, are not mutually exclusive. But I'd bet it's 9 times out of 10 just porn, i.e. cheap way to excite the audience, without the insight to really add anything else to the topics it deals with. And even when they do, I'm not a big fan of it. In fact, I often admire creativity in explaining the same things indirectly, in which some of the classics do - sometimes - a very good job.
      And just for the record, I've seen an unnecessary _revival_ for shock value. It was actually kinda impressing, not the least because I had never seen it before.

    • @firvantavan2793
      @firvantavan2793 Před 3 lety

      @@pRahvi0 Meh, shock value, death and gore can be entertaining as hell. Dumb deaths are annoying 100% of the time, of course, but that is another issue. Bring on the violence, I say. And don't be stingy on the horrific details 😁 I can't think of one damn example where gore and violence has harmed a good story. ^^

    • @pRahvi0
      @pRahvi0 Před 3 lety

      @@firvantavan2793 I suppose it's very much a matter of taste, whether or not you like the ugly details shown. I personally do not, most of the time, but I certainly acknowledge their potential. And it's not like I can't stand them at all, I just get a figurative hangover from such content very easily, after which point it _can_ harm my experience of the story.

    • @firvantavan2793
      @firvantavan2793 Před 3 lety

      @@pRahvi0 Ah, I see. I get what you're saying ^^

  • @dougiethompson2822
    @dougiethompson2822 Před 3 lety +23

    Daniel: I need to do a rant
    Subscribers: Here is $100+ randomly

  • @Space_vampire45
    @Space_vampire45 Před 3 lety +54

    Daniel coming in with a belt must have exited somebody. not me

  • @jarltrippin
    @jarltrippin Před 3 lety +31

    First time I've ever heard Daniel drop an F-bomb. It suits him.
    As entertaining as it is seeing you get riled up like this, it also shows that you truly care about the genre enough to defend it like this. I honestly consider you one of the best things to happen to fantasy in the last ten years.

  • @mikelegault9344
    @mikelegault9344 Před 3 lety +4

    “That’s the rant.”
    *checks timer* 25 minutes left.

  • @briancohen-doherty4392
    @briancohen-doherty4392 Před 3 lety +30

    *** Deeply personal thank you ***
    Today should have been my 6th wedding anniversary to my soulmate. My true partner throughout all time.
    Unfortunately she passed away a year and 3 weeks ago. But she got to see me enjoying your content when I started watching over 2 years ago and would often ask what I was laughing about only to hear me describe something you had just said :)
    She was an educator. Taught kindergarten, was a director for a child care facility...
    And is the reason the early childhood education program in Oregon was even put in the ballot to be voted on.
    There was another bill being looked at along with it, and it wasn't certain if either was going to make it.
    But she was the heart and soul of the company that was working with the minority non-profits of Portland and the school system for years that got it out together in the first place.
    Her passing put that bill up for vote & it passed.
    No matter what, millions of lives are going to be changed for the better because of the absolutely amazing human my wife was.
    And I want you to know that more than once you brought a smile to her face, even while dealing with incredible health challenges while succeeding in actually making this world a better place.
    And she would be incredibly proud of you right now

  • @avataraarow
    @avataraarow Před 3 lety +10

    Honestly, I find most grimdark far less nuanced and intellectually interesting than most non-grimdark works. There are lots of grim dark stories that are extremely nuanced and interesting, but a lot of them that I’ve read tend to end up being just a bunch of half baked nihilism to appeal to edgy teenagers

  • @waltcruz1631
    @waltcruz1631 Před 3 lety +12

    Daniel: I’m about to say my piece
    Me: my one piece badum tsshh

  • @senseimatt3097
    @senseimatt3097 Před 3 lety +4

    Daniel's therapist: You seem awful calm today... was today a little different than other days?
    Daniel: I, uh, let it out today.

  • @holybathook
    @holybathook Před 3 lety +16

    Commentor: "I'm late whats going on?"
    Disheveled Goblin: "I'm yelling, I threw books, I damaged my youtuber play button."

    • @noamcohen7124
      @noamcohen7124 Před 3 lety +1

      Best instructions to a story i have ever seen

  • @michaelcopple1736
    @michaelcopple1736 Před 3 lety +29

    Literature is an art, not what the reader expects. Yes readers can desire certain things, but the ultimate choice belongs to the writer. If you don't like the damn book because it doesn't meet your expectations, put the thing down and move on to a new book. Daniel is making such a very great point here. It is also pertinent to say, if you don't like what someone is saying, move on.
    Daniel, your rant is well merited and has some extreme standing for all of us as authors.

  • @tmntaddict
    @tmntaddict Před 3 lety +26

    Very general comment: as an adult who loves The NeverEnding Story in book and movie format and who read The Giver in 5th grade, I say read whatever suits your fancy regardless of who it's intended for or if others say not "grimdark" enough.

  • @kayyoung3187
    @kayyoung3187 Před 3 lety +15

    Hey also some adults have PTSD and maybe they don’t have a good time reading Grimdark. That doesn’t make us non adults lol. I love watching reviews/discussions of Grimdark material so I can get some of the story without having a panic attack. But for real. Don’t insult people who want to have a good time reading a book even if it’s not your favorite genre.

    • @colina2768
      @colina2768 Před 3 lety +2

      I had the same thing. I would get panic attacks when reading Prince of Thorns and the First Law. It was hard for me to read about a world where it feels like there are no good people and the world has no hope. It just burned me out.
      After therapy I was able to read First Law but Prince of Fools still makes me uneasy.

  • @herbertthornton4476
    @herbertthornton4476 Před 3 lety +19

    Most GrimDark authors learned from the pros who weren't dark. Having Said that, the Brothers Grimm fairy tales are much darker thank Disney stuff

  • @devildriverrule111
    @devildriverrule111 Před 3 lety +14

    This rant was pretty YA, it didn't remind me of a cannibal corpse album cover.

  • @soualexander6532
    @soualexander6532 Před 3 lety +8

    Take a shot every time Daniel says "That's the rant!" as if it's over and you'll be drunk by the halfway point

  • @holdenhenderson8550
    @holdenhenderson8550 Před 3 lety +20

    Hey Daniel! I teach English 9 and I agree with your point about not explaining to students that a text can be more than just for enjoyment. This is something that I have tried to get across to my students in the past, but because of your rant I will make sure to add extra emphasis to this point. I'm introducing the novels for this quarter to my classes this coming week and will make sure to spend time explaining this. Thank you!

  • @jacobyoung9981
    @jacobyoung9981 Před 3 lety +10

    I was scrolling through the comments at the very end of the video only half paying attention to what Daniel was saying only to hear him shout “Jacob you have an assignment!” Thanks for the ptsd from all those times I procrastinated in school. Definitely needed that 😂

  • @bishop_breloom
    @bishop_breloom Před 3 lety +10

    Daniel I must thank you. You have taught me both through this rant and other videos that the most important thing to understand about literature is that everyone has their own taste and opinions, but those opinions don’t make my thoughts and opinions invalid. Thank you.
    Also thank you for introducing me to Discworld.

  • @the_arora804
    @the_arora804 Před 3 lety +33

    100% agree with the education system thing. I got lucky in that I actually really enjoyed books like Macbeth, Lord of the Flies, Brave New World, and especially To Kill a Mockingbird, but I think literally all my friends suffered through the English classes when trying to answer the quintessential high school English class question of “what’s the deeper meaning here?” After freshman year, I can count on one hand people I knew who actually liked reading after that.
    I don’t think there’s anything particularly wrong with the exploration of themes, characters, and values that many school systems employ, but as Daniel said, there is absolutely no distinction between what you read for enjoyment, and what you read to learn about times, topics, themes, values, viewpoints, and subjects often times different than your own. Unless you get that one top tier teacher who understands what you’re going through, of course, but that’s not a reliable model to follow.
    EDIT: Small changes for clarity.

    • @tmntaddict
      @tmntaddict Před 3 lety +3

      My 12-grade English teacher was OBSESSED with symbolism & we hated it. I also hated All Quiet on the Western Front.

    • @the_arora804
      @the_arora804 Před 3 lety +4

      @@tmntaddict Yeah I think focusing on analysis based on literary devices only tells half the story. The other half if the characters, the people you read about, or the people you literally experience while reading the book, and I think a lot of high school classes miss that point. I'm fairly certain it's because it's far simpler to write papers based on very well, almost rigidly defined concepts.
      On another note, I used to be a real ra-ra "war is a glorious journey!" kinda guy. The whole, kids went off to fight in 1914 cause they thought it would a "grand adventure". Then I read All Quiet on the Western Front. It really opened my eyes to the personal experience of war and what it does to all unfortunate enough to get caught up in it.
      I completely understand not liking the book though, it's not everyone's favorite cup of tea, and that's okay.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 3 lety +1

      @@the_arora804 Its interesting thats its from a german ww1 soldier describing the horror of wars and alienation and ptsd. I dont think it is meant to be pleasent and at best have gallows humor. Its probably still highly value if you hate it, but the teacher probably wasnt good at explaining its that, a ww1 veteran describing war and why its not good nor glorious and super damaging soldiers. And that htler even banned it because , well. Which should be the main point not symbolism.

    • @the_arora804
      @the_arora804 Před 3 lety +3

      @@marocat4749 Yeah, I can't speak to anyone else's experience with the book, but the book undoubtedly teaches some valuable lessons and has a very relevant message. Personally, I saw it in one of the classrooms and asked my teacher if I could borrow it because it seemed like an interesting book.

    • @tmntaddict
      @tmntaddict Před 3 lety +3

      @@the_arora804 For me it's being force-fed books. I'm sure for many being force-fed anything doesn't work, but the strict impression I got in high school which may never really change was "we are requiring you to ingest the meanings of these stories which you will be graded on. Now do it!" School systems need to be taught flexibility with how students learn from literature. Even now, +20 yrs later, I still don't know if I'd re-read Grapes of Wrath, All Quiet, whatever else there was. I think I only mildly enjoyed the greek mythology since there was no deep meaning to pick apart.

  • @big_sis_moon
    @big_sis_moon Před 3 lety +16

    One of my favorite fantasy stories is the Netflix She-Ra reboot, it has amazing character work. This being a show that is virtually the OPPOSITE of grimdark. Thank you for the defense of lighthearted fantasy!
    P.S.: I also love grimdark stuff, WH40k is awesome

  • @zopiranha3871
    @zopiranha3871 Před 3 lety +42

    Reminds me of anime fans who think that a lot of murder makes the anime 'deep' and 'dark'. Like bro, it's edgy.

    • @tygerchase9705
      @tygerchase9705 Před 3 lety +6

      I actually find that it's the other way around, it's happened quite a few times that people have downplayed great manga or anime by calling it 'edgy' I've heard it more than once in reference to Berserk or the Tokyo ghoul manga.

    • @nathanbrownsberger7074
      @nathanbrownsberger7074 Před 3 lety

      @@tygerchase9705 I liked some of Tokyo ghoul, but the amount of fighting in it irked me. I wished it would’ve explored some of the characters more when not in their heads in the midst of combat. Granted those scenes and episodes we’re good, I just wished for a bit more balance between fighting and more peaceful-ish exploration of character

    • @luqmanhakim6869
      @luqmanhakim6869 Před 3 lety

      Yoo what are those anime please?? I need to watch it and decide if it's dark enough

    • @nathanbrownsberger7074
      @nathanbrownsberger7074 Před 3 lety

      @@luqmanhakim6869 I haven’t seen berserk, I watched Tokyo ghoul on a pirating site but I think it’s on crunchy roll. Another one that’s on the darker side is devil man crybaby which is on Netflix

  • @thecompanion9657
    @thecompanion9657 Před 3 lety +13

    Wow, he sums up everything wrong with literary criticism since 1920. Bootiful.

  • @mroloff
    @mroloff Před 3 lety +12

    Your book abuse is Grimm Dark. I cried just a little with each throw. Besides the damage to my psyche your book maltreatment has caused, you are spot on.

  • @poodlemuffin
    @poodlemuffin Před 3 lety +17

    Largely agree, but in respect of art films like the Green Knight, if they don’t want people to review them badly for not being “entertaining”, they shouldn’t market themselves as “entertainment “. For example, don’t put out a trailer that makes your film look like an action movie if you don’t want a disappointed reaction from action movie fans.

    • @claytonkoff7893
      @claytonkoff7893 Před 3 lety +2

      I agree completely. The Joker for instance is an Art film not an action movie but was marketed as such and a lot of people Review bombed it because of that.

    • @BlackXSunlight
      @BlackXSunlight Před 2 lety

      Hard disagree. The team behind marketing strategies and editing trailers are 99% of the time completely separate from the big brains that birthed the piece.

  • @krle24
    @krle24 Před 3 lety +10

    "I want you to think before posting a comment"
    Proceeds to record himself having a mental breakdown over yt comments.
    My man, you need to rest 😂

  • @linnetwiddershins1983
    @linnetwiddershins1983 Před 3 lety +4

    “beCAUSE THERE IS NO MURDER, MURDDER, MURTHERRR!” *flailing intensifies*

  • @newdawn3301
    @newdawn3301 Před 3 lety +17

    I just love this guy his honesty holy shit and his energy is fun as fuck

  • @Tinahgirl83
    @Tinahgirl83 Před 3 lety +10

    For myself, I read primarily for entertainment, but I am entertained by learning something, if that makes sense. I love classics, and I’m finally dipping my toe into sci-fi. I also enjoy fantasy, classic mysteries, middle grade and literary fiction. I find these things entertaining because I learn so much about human nature and humanity from reading them. I don’t know if this makes any sense. I think you can be educated and entertained at the same time, but our educational systems don’t teach us how to do that. They introduce things to us as though they are too complicated for us to understand or enjoy, which is off-putting.

    • @GlitchToph
      @GlitchToph Před 3 lety +1

      I get what you mean, and I feel the same.
      The entertainment part I feel is more applied to authoritorial intent rather than your own, kinda. Marvel movies for the easy example like Daniel said, they're made and watched for entertainment purposes,...
      ...but The Green Knight (again, easy quick example) does not seek your entertainment, it wants to tell a different kind of story that won't try to keep you engaged by a regular stream of dopamine. You finding entertaining something that's not trying to be that (in this context) says a lot of good about your literary taste.

  • @rikkebay8548
    @rikkebay8548 Před 3 lety +2

    Me not knowing what grimdark was until now bc I had to look it up to understand what the rant was about 😅

  • @anon9069
    @anon9069 Před 3 lety +3

    imagine the friend watching this

  • @deborahmadison6670
    @deborahmadison6670 Před 3 lety +14

    Can we talk about how literally every talk ever can be for kids or adults depending on how it is broached… so like yes… rubbish. You are correct Daniel

  • @ryan1840
    @ryan1840 Před 3 lety +3

    Imagine being the friend that made him post this rant saying he doesn't like talking to people

  • @EssentialTomodachi
    @EssentialTomodachi Před 3 lety +6

    You really came in with some heavy energy with that belt.
    "I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed."

  • @cvs_en
    @cvs_en Před 3 lety +12

    People ,forget that we have some ratings/genres to keep kids out of stuff that may or may not be too much for them. Everything is for adults=)) including Dora the explorer if you're into that shit

  • @Sunlit_Reading
    @Sunlit_Reading Před 3 lety +10

    Daniel: utters the name Disney
    Everyone: Gird your loins people! The mouse hunt begins! 😂😂😂

  • @thexyayxmaker
    @thexyayxmaker Před 3 lety +5

    Found Daniel this year. He’s now very precious to me and needs to be protected! Thank you for giving me a laugh and good insights.

  • @rat1223
    @rat1223 Před 3 lety +3

    "Some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again." -C.S. Lewis

  • @tdpod6109
    @tdpod6109 Před 3 lety +39

    Saying something is not grimdark enough is like a horror fan saying if it doesn't have gratuitous torture then it's not good.
    Like.
    Jaynzus Crimbles.
    Dood.

  • @amitnagpal1985
    @amitnagpal1985 Před 3 lety +7

    Door behind a wardrobe that leads to a cold place with an evil witch and time dilation is also grimdark. An adult man with a snake’s nose who is obsessed with high schoolers is also grimdark. Daniel Greene making this 30 minute video about a non-issue because iphone 13 comes out next month is also grimdark.

  • @KMMHealy
    @KMMHealy Před 3 lety +12

    Don’t even get me started on university level literary theory and gatekeeping through obtuse language. 🙄 Great rant! Thank you for the initial heart attack because I’m a new subscriber (with ADHD) and sometimes comment impulsively. 😅

  • @KaiMFS
    @KaiMFS Před 3 lety +1

    Dude you totally called it. I stopped reading in high school because I they gave me a slew of books I hated without context, like The Great Gatsby. I still dislike that book, and that was actually the one that made me walk away. In the beginning I liked what they were giving me, like Animal Farm and Of Mice and Men, but later in high school I was turned off to reading fiction. Now I'm a sci-fi author. The universe is crazy.

  • @TheNerdLounge
    @TheNerdLounge Před 3 lety +7

    Daniel throwing books hurts my soul every single time...

  • @azazelreeds
    @azazelreeds Před 3 lety +11

    Oh this started out about grimdark? I dropped in when the rant turned into being about shallow reviews in general lol

  • @pachacutti1012
    @pachacutti1012 Před 3 lety +1

    An alternate title for this video could be
    Goblin throws books for half an hour in a reasonable fit of rage

  • @frannook
    @frannook Před 2 lety +1

    I love how I don't even know what grimdark is but I watched a 32 min long rant about it.
    We love you Daniel.

  • @h.c.8731
    @h.c.8731 Před 3 lety +15

    One of the main things we are taught as historians is that we can only look at, use, and/or critic something for its *intended purpose.*
    Always critic something for *what it is,* never for what it *isn’t* or what you *wish it were.*
    (Speaking to your rant on people’s critiques about the Green Night not being an entertaining movie, when that’s not its purpose.)

  • @priceyblackwinter2338
    @priceyblackwinter2338 Před 3 lety +3

    11:09 he just shapeshifted in to George RR Martin with that laugh

  • @MiMiLaXMiMi
    @MiMiLaXMiMi Před 3 lety +2

    So what is grimdark to these people…. A non-stop orgy-murder-fest? With extra torture? Why would anyone want that (outside of a snuff film I guess which is kinda concerning)?

  • @cheese6575
    @cheese6575 Před 3 lety +7

    I like that even immediately following your rant, you were still respectful in how you disagreed with the commenter at 11:50 . I hope your day proves to be better than it started out :)

    • @alang8071
      @alang8071 Před 3 lety

      I heard something different at 3:45

  • @ladyhoratia1709
    @ladyhoratia1709 Před 3 lety +3

    i appreciate you saying this because I read a lot of different genres including YA and hearing people say that's not "real" makes me feel bad. thank you for making this

  • @rachelb751
    @rachelb751 Před 3 lety +6

    I took two literature courses in college and it changed how I look at literature. I like the entertainment value but it usually goes deeper than that. I'm also lucky enough to have a friend on the same page were we buddy read and discuss the novels we read. My current favorite it Interview with the Vampire commenting on the human condition.

    • @ayajade6683
      @ayajade6683 Před 3 lety

      The books also have great commentary on sexuality at least before it goes off the rails

  • @luulusoul
    @luulusoul Před 3 lety +1

    I'm sorry this had to happen on your day off; but man did I need to hear this today. Thank you for existing.

  • @lamarepository248
    @lamarepository248 Před 2 lety +1

    I believe you’ve just pioneered the “heated writer moment”

  • @havokix
    @havokix Před 3 lety +4

    Roid rage from the CrossFit 😂. Just joking, I feel the rant rage too, though I honestly had similar regressive thoughts to those dopes commenting those stupid comments, when One Piece started on the channel and told myself "dude you watch Avatar, read the hobbit and listen to The Barenaked Ladies, who you to do judge", and after your latest One Piece review I'm gonna get into the series. Seeing how much it affected you, giving you the feels, I'm like yes please, emotions please.

  • @benstapleton5319
    @benstapleton5319 Před 3 lety +12

    Daniel: "I didn't enjoy this book"
    Dum dum: "You're wrong"
    Daniel: "No"
    I laughed because there is literally no way Daniel can be wrong here, because if he didn't enjoy the book then he is correct when he said he didn't enjoy it.

  • @jackwriter1908
    @jackwriter1908 Před 3 lety +2

    Going to the Restaurant and getting the Notification _A Very Stupid Rant_ from Daniel Greene, I thought „Damm it! Daniel Livestreams and I can't see it.“
    Coming back from the Restaurant going directly to CZcams to see _A Very Stupid Rant_ uploaded 5 minutes ago, I think „Damm it! Why can't Daniel rant longer?! 30 minutes isn't enough!“
    Thinking that you need Murder to be for adults is a rather strange thing to say anyway, because I would definetly not watch _Greys of Anatomy_ as a 10 year old child... Not that I watch it now, but I needed an example.

  • @Evilanious
    @Evilanious Před 3 lety +1

    Sometimes people conflate 'mature' with 'not suitable for kids'.

  • @aogote
    @aogote Před 3 lety +6

    How you treat your books is grimdark definitely 😂

  • @sdstarr01
    @sdstarr01 Před 3 lety +5

    The only book that’s really grim dark enough is All Quiet on the Western Front.

  • @maddy2035
    @maddy2035 Před 3 lety +2

    Alternate title: Goblin’s Progressive Spiral Into Insanity

  • @michaelvcelentano
    @michaelvcelentano Před 3 lety +1

    I’m convinced that people who get like that are people who don’t like the idea of learning to be a better person through reading between the lines of literary allegory. Terry Pratchett’s books make you a better person, good grim dark even makes you face the cruelty of people so that we can recognize it in reality and avoid/fix it.

  • @FlyteDanny
    @FlyteDanny Před 3 lety +4

    Jesus, I need more "elitist asshole" breakdowns like these. Definitely grimdark

  • @JamesI88
    @JamesI88 Před 3 lety +3

    I love a lot of classics even if I'm not "entertained" by them the same way I am with more modern books. I change my expectations and my perspective when reading classics and can always take away a lot of positive things from them, even if the premise or plot wouldnt be something I'd normally seek out l. Classic for a reason, I've learned.

  • @kars7181
    @kars7181 Před 2 lety +1

    In my mind “grim dark” is 40k and there’s a huge gap between that and some murder murder stab stab cry feels bad.
    Things can have adult themes without being “grim dark”
    It’s bugging when more than like 2 people die in a book and people go “is this grim dark enough?”

  • @Skittles948
    @Skittles948 Před 3 lety +1

    Damn bro I just told my dad to get me the wheel of time’s first book. You, Daniel, are making me read and it hurts.