BUILDING A MIX on the WING in under an hour!
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2021
- Lee builds an entire mix from scratch in 45 minutes on the WING.
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The key filter for the gate works wonders for toms stopping it opening for snare hits. Sounds great!
could we have a series on the Allen and Heath SQ series
A series on a Allen and Heath sq7 would be lovely
Yes please 🙏🏻🙏🏻
On the avantis and sq and QU since it seems pretty cheap and even a CQ
I’m always learning something new from you guys. I am very thankful and grateful for your content
Distressor sounds Amazing!!! I love it!
Great video on mixing with the wing. You gave me an insight on how to balance the different tracks such as drums, base, guitar and vocals. I enjoyed how you included the different techniques of filtering, reverb etc. Awesome job!
If you got that sound in 40 minutes, imagine what you could do with some more time! That was really awesome! Have you changed your mind about the Wing?
@San Antonio nah man. Lee definitely has definitely mixed with less than perfect sources. He's GOATED.
This mix is quite impressive for the price of this unit. Sounds pretty good!!! Well done
Solid. Thanks for putting this up.
By the time he added the voices I totally forgot about them I was enjoying the instruments so much
that was pretty dope.. I love the functionality of the desk.. everything I need is on there, at least to get a great mix .... gotta have it.. nice job.
Dude that drum mix was definitely crazy. The Plug-ins on the wing is undefeated
with your gate, you can also set a key filter, so it just opens for the toms and not for the cymbals
great mix. worth watching
Good Job !
you guys channels is really good, hope you get more Subs ASAP!
This is awesome and massive.
Great Work, Sounds Great!
Parabéns pelo trabalho Deus te abençoe, aprendi bastante só nesses minutos!!! A wing e topzera.
Sounds really good
this great i like it Thank You Very Much am using wing too
"[...] and it doesn't sound terrible, so [...]"
it made my day, after 46 minutes of video
This video got me to subscribe. 👍
Haha for a guy who is not a fan of the wing, you made it sound pretty sweet. Nice job! It was nice to see mostly plugins used as well, for the old school analog guy. I see some guys also using the SSL G on the main bus master. Not sure you needed though.
Hey Hey~ it's Lee :) thanks for the video!
Not a fan of the wing, but I always love to take some experience from a good engineer to apply to my mixing strategies!, sounds great!
Glad you enjoyed it! We have TONS more like this on mxu.rocks/teams/
Love this! Signed up for the 2 day MxU live/teams in Cali and bringing a crew with me. Had a question about whether what we are hearing is straight off the two mix of the board, is it a bus out to YT like a live stream, or has this been dumped out to a multitrack for post? Would love to see a video on how the gain structure looks like in order to go out to live. One of the biggest issues I see and am experiencing is the stream volume going out too low. There are a number of vids out there applying things like limiting.. but then you get heavy handed with it to get the volume up and end up mangling or pumping.
We wanna see a video like this on the SQ! 👀
Great Sound for Church/worship Band. Good Technique.
Lots of variables for sure (different multitrack, room etc.) but I'm really digging the outcome of this mix vs. your mix on the M32. Too bad there isn't a Behringer Wing left for sale on planet earth, I'd probably buy one!
i bought one 3 weeks ago, in sweetwater maybe you can find one
@@FernandoAbdiasPerezMorfe7 Just gotta find the right place at the right time. just bought our second wing for broadcast
This is great, very informative and exactly the type of thing I was looking for. I am thinking of buying the WING for a home studio. This is exactly how I want to use the Wing doing the mix on the consoler rather than a DAW. Actually was think of doing the following and wondering if this is possible:
Using the Wing as a Interface record my tracks to the DAW (as I am one person each track will have to be built one or two tracks at a time) (step 1)
Arrange the tracks within the DAW (possibly use the wing as a controller only at this point (with reaper)). (step 2)
Send the Arrangement back out of the DAW to mix and master (as you have shown here) (step 3)
Questions:
On each of these steps (as listed above) I can save these as scenes so I only have to setup each step of the process once and from then on most of the work should be done as I recall these scenes is this a correct assumption?
Is it possible to see your setup from your DAW to the Mixer to see how that was done? thanks.
I didn't see you do any of the pan section choices but I did hear the assignment of left/right during the process of your mixing. Did you do pre panning on the DAW before outputting to the WING. I would have been very intrested in see you using the panning functions of the WING and your impression of the panning tools on the console.
Thanks for taking time to create this informative video!
I think you can do all of these with one setup - have a bank of channels dedicated to be your inputs to the DAW (can be your aux channels to save using the main ones), and route them directly to the DAW and to the channels. Then setup the inputs for all the other channels as your returns back from the DAW. You can then use the aux channels to monitor what you are playing with no latency, while you record in the DAW (and have everything else play back through the separate channels in the Wing). Set up a load of custom controls for the DAW controls, and you can use them for recording, editing and mixing. As far as routing to and from a DAW goes, it's not too complicated. In the output routing menu, you can choose the USB out, and you can just choose whatever you want to send to the DAW. Then you can go to the channel input page, and then choose all your DAW inputs to be the inputs from USB, and choose the aux inputs to be Local 1-8 (which are the built in mic inputs). The main issue I would forsee, is that if you have a stereo channel, you will then have to bump up all the other channel inputs by one, so it is worth setting up templates if you often have the same instruments so that anything that is almost always stereo can be left routed
@@stephenevans2518 thanks that sounds like good advice!
Wow🤗🤗🤗🤗
What frequencies do you commonly find yourself cutting/boosting on floor/rack toms? It was difficult to tell from the ssl.
I like how the dude just crawled in front of mixer. Don't worry nobody will see me. Lol
sweet!.... p.G.
You should try to flip polarity on snare bottom.
Excellent video, thank you. What parameters do you use in the master?
I am interested in your thoughts on a good mixer for a church in the same price range as this wing. Thinking of the wing, a studio live or possible an Allen and Heath.
Seem the prosonus doesn’t have as great of ability to add effects and such to channels. But it is simpler. Thoughts?
We are a mid sized church. 2000sqf currently on a xair 18. Need more room.
I just bought the Wing today. I almost bought the X32 but I was sold on the Wing.
Thanks! That was great! I've had a Wing for 12 months now and I learned a lot of things that I didn't know it could do from your video. (Not a fan of that singer though, LOL)
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Please give me the name of the song...
Thank you for sharing this...
Between a Midas M32 & a Behringer Wing, which one is best for use in a place of worship?
What software are you guys using for multi tracking and playback?
was your reverb send on post or pre fader . Thanks
Good afternoon.
We purchased a wing behringer, but when we needed to assign a bus as a control signal for side-chain in dynamic processing, it turned out that only the channel was selectable in the drop-down list. Neither auxes nor buses can be selected, although in X32 the source for side-chain any channel, aux or bus could be selected in the compressor.
Is this a developer oversight or are we doing something wrong? Thank you
Why did you not mix in vox3? I'm used to doing a multiple vocal mix and would have liked to have seen how you handle multiple vocals (even just two is better than only one).
Can you do this with the A&H Avantis?
Most likely would be harder to get a hold of
@@soundfreak8892 I’m sure they know someone. I just got one. Just got to call the right people 😉
@@soundfreak8892 aaaaand the avantis is now up
What mic do you use sir?
the new firmware makes this board even more awesome.
I know its so much to ask, but any possibility of getting the multitrack for practice sake alone. Thank you
They probably won't release it for download unfortunately, I'd recommend looking for a service like Nail The Mix where they release a new multi track every month for that exact purpose! They also release a video of an engineer mixing the stems for that month down so you can follow along and practice their techniques! I know it's a hard rock/metal based service, but I'm sure you can find something similar for whatever genre you are trying to work in!
Can you do one of these on the Avantis please.
Great vid can't wait for ours to come soon! Any news on when the dante card for the wing will be released?
Its available now
@@joybasta37 Oh is it? Where can I purchase? Sweetwater currently has it on pre-order
@@denzelmabilangan9114 Sweetwater is a good shout, I think they sold out pretty fast, and you might just have to wait for stock
What is the Keyboard that's playing the keys? I'm in love with the voice.
How can I watch this on CZcams, but not your platform with my paid subscription?
I like your videos. This one here is also very very interesting.
I wonder a bit because one week earlier you posted a video with your review about the Wing and stated that you are no fan of it - now you post a video where you create a mix with it?
Have you changed your mind?
@Lee Fields Thank you for your reply. As I am currently looking for a new console with a higher channel count than 32 (mixing BigBand) I would be really interested in a recommendation. Is it the SQ-series or the TF-series of Yamaha?
I see your using a computer to get the sound into the Wing. How are you doing that exactly please?
Do you have live multitrack recordings available to download for practice mixing?
Same here I would like a multitrack recording to practice
Same here!!! Would be really great
I would gladly buy some worship tracks to play with. I know they have a bunch in the pipe, but it would be nice.
www.telefunken-elektroakustik.com/multitracks
How is Lee capturing the live audio mix changes from the mixer? Anybody?
I'd like you to see you mix a deah metal band. Dense song structure, very wet distorted guitars, trrigered double kick, ringshots on snare all the time, metalic cold high atack bass and mid intensive vocal oh! and bumped solos.
Please make and Allen And Heat SQ series.
anyone else think the verb on the snare/toms sounded horrible? really distorted and delayed. or was it just my headphones?
Heard it too
one hour? the schedule gives you 15 mins sound, eh make that line check, if you're lucky (including sundries like patching and changeover; the previous drummer is left-handed). Check is on cans or if they've got them, near fields. It better start sounding good halfway through the first song or you're toast. Greetings from the live sound trenches!
I was just curious what microphone you're using to speak into for this video?
pretty sure that’s an Earthworks Icon or Icon Pro
Which mic is he using in this video please? It sounds great
Thank you
Not sure but reminds me of a Heil Mic
I love it. Pls I’m new to this and I’ve noticed while building your mix you did not gain up any of the tracks directly and still it sounds perfectly balanced and settle. I’m fun of gaining up when I can’t push the fader up anymore. Is it a bad idea?
I would suggest trying to get more signal from the source (instrument, pedal board, keyboards ect..)before going super high with the mixer gain knob. If source is maxed out and you still don’t have enough signal coming in then I’d go for the gain.
Did you do some pitch correction on the main vocals cos it seems pretty much in shape?
@Lee Fields oh great. Thank you so much
Why did the verb at 16:40 sound bitcrushed?
Lol the names are hilarious though, "NoStresser", instead of Distressor "Soul Analogue" for SSL
Como se llama la canción?
Why does the gain seem kinda high..? I thought it was supposed to be -18 on the x32
for certian instruments you can push hotter like snare, kick, toms, etc... I mix those around -12 on Midas like premaps
Yeah it looked like he was clipping when he was mixing the drums? Why was that happening?
Yeah I pretty much always lop off stuff above 6k on electric guitars. Shhhhhhhhhhh!
how about that mic you're using?
Should send delay into reverb, and that’s not really a slap, slap is, mostly, single repeat @ 110ms…hello 50‘s
I’m so confused. How did he have those audios connected to WING? Did he record multi tracks on DAW and connected to WING?
It was multitracks recorded into a daw from a live setting.
why we cut low mid every time
Alguém do Brasil ? Pega a dica do gringo??
I know it’s late, but why did he not mention or address what looked like clipping when he was mixing the drums?
The standard FX carried over from the 32 series desks aren’t that great. The plates and everything in the VSS3 are significantly better IMO.
what song is it?
The song is, “There is a Hope” by Thrive Worship.
That drum verb sounds like it’s digitally going out???
If won't earaid with that tinyness
So that’s where all that tax money goes 😂
Its funny how converters in the daw world have come a long way and most sound pretty awesome now.... but this wing sounds just like the x32. It just sounds bad. Hate the highend. We will just have to wait another 15 years and see what they do. And yes i have a wing sitting in a closet.
Promoting God stuff with songs.... man man..... we are in 2021
Real bass players don't use a pick!!!
Davi504?
Ever hear of p bass?
Working on solo.... The worst way ever. I don't know a single top notch mixing engineer working like that.
Someone's just salty that they have to keep pressing the "I'm still evaluating" button in Reaper every 30 days. Lee did a great job using the limited tools he was given to do this mix. How are you supposed to hear any sort of detail when you are EQing with the drums, bass, guitar, or synths all playing at the same time? It's like you haven't mixed anything down ever lmao.
The first 9 words of the 2nd sentence says it all maybe?
Wang is a Garbage mixing board. Presonus is way better.
Lol not even close! Presonus belongs in a skip!
@@dbfsound8269 preamp of Bheringer sucks!!
@@chooocoooleeezhang1251 if you say so! You see x32/M33 in more venues than presonus. I’ve never seen a presonus in any venue I’ve ever been In! That should tell you something. X/M32 is also one of the most sold digital boards in its price range
never seen a single presonus anywhere. meanwhile even big touring bands playing theaters and festivals are running X32 racks for in-ears, and even M32 for FOH, hmmmm
@@lukebogartmix clearly just a troll or a guy who owns a presonus and can’t afford an x32 so slags off behringer to make himself feel better about owning a presonus 🤣