I think you mean mariticide (killing one's spouse), not matricide (killing one's mother). Easy mistake to make, since the words are so similar and mariticide isn't recognized by spellcheck.
I think the reason why that farm one wasn't used because it would reminded people of the Dust Bowl, and that time there would be people with fresh memories of it.
92JazzQueen My thoughts exactly. Especially considering most Okies wound up in California, so MANY older Cali residents visiting the opening of the ride would have actually lived through it, originally having moved there because of it.
A period of dust storms that further ruined the American prairies' ecology and agriculture back in the 1930's. It happened during a time of drought, and caused a lot of people to abandon their now ruined farmland, and migrate elsewhere in the U.S., some to the next city over, some to the next county, and some, at the most, to different states, as far west as California and so on.
Their eyes no longer follow you. When the Sinister 11 portraits were relocated from the Portrait Hall to the Loading Area in 2007, their hollow eyes were replaced with flat eyes because the Imagineers didn't want guests to get distracted while they were waiting in line. Their stares are still creepy, but they no longer follow, which is a bummer.
The Sinister 11 are at the Walt Disney World and the Tokyo Disneyland Haunted Mansion, the sinister 11 should be at the Disneyland Haunted Mansion where the portraits will be renamed the "sinister 16" where the Sinister 11 portraits will be along with Constance Hatchaway, Captain Gore, Guy Fawkes, Ivan the Terrible and Ramsley.
It was ironically realized as, not only Melanie Ravenswood in the Phantom Manor, but also the _original_ Bride in the attic when the Disneyland and Magic Kingdom Haunted Mansions opened in 1969 and 1971, respectfully.
I love the still life paintings of the flowers and fruit, wilting and decaying. Also of the farm being decimated by the Dust Bowl. I think the still life paintings were scrapped because they didn't feature any of the happy haunts. Most of the pics used were portraits.
I greatly enjoyed looking over the portrait of the Miser when I first came across it. Especially because his face doesn't change when he catches on fire. Like bursting into flames isn't even the worst thing that's happened to him that day (of course, the last one shows that it really wasn't...).
If I am not mistaken, you may have missed a few more abandoned changing portraits. There was the Sea Swallowed Captain (my guess a reference to the ride's original story line) who is standing before the wrecked remains of his whaling ship. A similar nautical-themed portrait is much closer to the one we have today, but when it transforms, you see the ghosts of the captain and crew emanating from the skeletal ship; my guess is that it is a reference to the Flying Dutchman. I've heard rumors that there was a portrait of the Pied Piper of Hamelin planned for the mansion, since his story is a Grim Fairy Tale. I usually chalked up the Arsenist as the Piper because of this
* 0:52 The Old Miser looks pretty cool * 1:38 Dracula would've been a good one * 2:24 The Walpurgis Witch woulda been awesome * 2:44 The Arsonist/Werewolf * 3:17 The Heiress (I actually heard she was named Constance Hatchaway before they put in Black Widow Bride)
I remember when I was young there was this special effects shop selling a portrait just like the ones at Disneyland. I wanted one so bad but they were $600-$750 🤑, which was out my budget unfortunately 😔.
The Walpurgis Witch is a nod to walpurgisnacht. Count Dracula looks more like wolf then a bat. And speaking of wolves, why didn't they include the Arsonist werewolf?
Hi! I've been binging your videos and with this one, a handful of these were actually used in the haunted mansion video game! They're your loading screens. That game came out when I was 14 and is one of my favourite obscure video games, i would cry if they remastered that lol but i have it on my Wii homebrew since the original copy got lost. But it was played so much when i was younger.
Walpurgis (Vall-per-gis) is a reference to walpurgisnacht which is technically a german catholic saint's day but is more traditionally seen as a pagan holiday celebrating the coming of spring and witchcraft in general by like...everyone else for some reason? Pretty fun ngl. Lots of bonfires
The Wilting Flowers were part of the limited edition lenticular card set released in 1999 for the Mansion’s 30th. There were five altogether with Medusa, April/December, Panther Lady, and Skeleton Knight.
A lot of these don't seem too bad now, but in the 60s I'm sure it would've been a big deal. Honestly most of them are good. The Witch with a goat's head would've been pretty dark and spooky even for today's crowd I think. A good number of these I feel would have worked okay with the current lightning change style we have, but there's definitely a few that would have probably only been good on the slow transitional style. Farm, Fruit, Werewolf/Arsonist, Rotting Fruit....those ones I don't think would have looked as good. Also Jack The Ripper looks like a human Hatbox Ghost. Skeletal Bride would have been cool until we got Constance, and I feel it would have worked in Phantom Manor. The Heiress and Loving Couple seem to smack of Constance and her....unique way of dealing with her husbands. Both would have worked well with the lightning flash. Rasputin is just kinda creepy in general. He was a creepy man. He was also Russia's Greatest Love Machine, but thats another story for another time. The eyeball effect wouldn't have really worked with the lightning flash that we have, it would've only worked with that slow transitional style IMO.
This is so interesting. I will definitely never think of the Haunted Mansion the same the next time I ride it. EDIT: I saw the little string thing that makes Madame Leota float and now I'm quite sad.
Close. According to Ghost Gallery he is Jamie Padgett, Little Leota's husband, Frank Banks, Constance's second husband or Billy Bob, Carlotta and Renatta's lover. But it would be cool if he was JEAN LAFITTE
Hey dude keep up the good work!!! I’ve been dealing with depression for a while and your videos have been one of the best parts of the past year. I’m loving every minute you put out so congrats!!!!
I had no idea that was Rasputin! I love the portrait even more now! I actually finished Faust not too long ago so I definitely see the reference. God, I love these portraits
It was ironically realized as the _original_ Bride in the attic when the Disneyland and Magic Kingdom Haunted Mansions opened in 1969 and 1971, respectfully, and eventually as the skeletal Melanie Ravenswood in Phantom Manor.
The skeletal bride. It would go well with the theme of the black widow bride. Maybe they could incorporate some story where Constance actually died shortly after murdering her last husband.
you should talk about the two ghost women that sit outside the Haunted Mansion during Mickeys Not So Scary Halloween party in Disneyworld (Ive never been to Disneyland so I dont know if they are there too).
The farm one seems so scary, almost apocalyptic. Like a dead world with nothing left but wind. If anyone could get a link to the original I would love that.
Do a video about how the Haunted Mansion is mysteriously two mansions in one. I'm talking about how the building you enter is a three-story white antebellum manor in pristine condition (or a three-story brick Dutch Gothic Revival manor at WDW) and then during the attraction, after the stretching room, it somehow becomes a seemingly two-story run-down Victorian house with a conservatory and an attic on the second floor. Completely different architecture. You first see a glimpse of this alternate mansion in the stretching room when the lights go out. Notice the cupola the Ghost Host hanged himself in is octagonal and has four windows, while the cupola you saw outside is hexagonal with six windows (at Disneyland). My theory is that the mansion you ride thru during the actual ride exists in another dimension: the Spirit World. Remember the sign that used to be at the end of the ride: "DEAD END! Prepare to Exit to the Living World."
The werewolf portrait now is supposed to be a representation of the Pied Piper. He's holding a sack because in the original story, he kidnapped the village's children after the village didn't pay him for ridding the streets of rats with his pipe. So I guess he got a bit salty because he shoved all the kids in the sack. Also "The Couple" is actually supposed to be of Lizzie Borden's parents now.
As the changing portraits became one image that changed into another with a lightning flash...therefore,two images...it's easy to see why some of these weren't chosen. The burning miser,for example,is six separate images. Now,if they made them like the Master Gracey portrait in the entrance foyer of the WDW mansion.....
when I saw the "Jack the Ripper" painting photo I thought I saw it before, Then I remembered it was one of the paintings in "The Haunted Mansion" Video game I have on the GameCube.(and maybe other Gaming consoles) It was not apart of the "changing" portraits puzzle in the game. (When are you going to talk about the Video game of It? Not that I mind.) P.S. The game's story is not the same as the Movie.
A more interesting question might be, "What changing portraits would you like to see, even if they have never been considered before?" A number could come from fairy tales, many of which are quite dark. The easiest -- too easy, in fact -- would be the wicked queen / witch from Snow White. The Pied Piper is the one I'd really like, though -- but that is probably TOO dark for Disney.
I feel like "The Arsonist" is a reference to the Lawrence Massacre in Lawrence, Kansas. Or maybe it has nothing to do with Lawrence at all and I'm just a hopeless Kansan who desperately wants my state to be noticed, idk
am i the only one who thinks those changing portraits w ould be a good merch item like they sell a more led screen like one or something for people to collect.
Oh, too bad they never used that skeleton bride pic. I guess one version does have something similar and then there's Phantom Manor. Quite interesting, they should have used them all.
I haven't been to Disney world a ton (at least not as much as some people), but I do think I know it pretty well (I have a minor obsession). However I can't remember for the life of me where the portraits that follow you with their eyes are. Could someone let me know?
Oh! The one where the portrait changes to show the woman stabbing the man in the heart? They couldn't use it because they didn't want to pay me anything for my life story rights.
Yup. Nowadays it is. If you try to film them, you'll break the illusion as the fps of the screens are extremely unlikely to match the ones on your camera (they're much slower).
Haunted Mansion could have been called Matricide Mansion. Constance, and three of the scrapped changing portraits all had a wife killing a husband.
I think you mean mariticide (killing one's spouse), not matricide (killing one's mother). Easy mistake to make, since the words are so similar and mariticide isn't recognized by spellcheck.
Karalora hopefully no Patricide was committed as well
3:15 the completely destroyed farm reminds me of the house from courage the cowardly dog
“The things I do for Disney”
I think the reason why that farm one wasn't used because it would reminded people of the Dust Bowl, and that time there would be people with fresh memories of it.
92JazzQueen My thoughts exactly. Especially considering most Okies wound up in California, so MANY older Cali residents visiting the opening of the ride would have actually lived through it, originally having moved there because of it.
the Dust Bowl?
A period of dust storms that further ruined the American prairies' ecology and agriculture back in the 1930's. It happened during a time of drought, and caused a lot of people to abandon their now ruined farmland, and migrate elsewhere in the U.S., some to the next city over, some to the next county, and some, at the most, to different states, as far west as California and so on.
we are da rats!!! The dust bowl also further damaged the economy making the effects of the Great Depression worse
The Faustian burning man would have been awesome.
Gordon Free Agreed. That was the scariest.
Their eyes no longer follow you. When the Sinister 11 portraits were relocated from the Portrait Hall to the Loading Area in 2007, their hollow eyes were replaced with flat eyes because the Imagineers didn't want guests to get distracted while they were waiting in line. Their stares are still creepy, but they no longer follow, which is a bummer.
The flowers would have been so beautiful. I loved the art for the portrait that you showed in the video.
1:55
*Ra Ra Rasputin* , Russia's greatest Love Machine! It was a Shame how he Carried On!
Well, I know what I will be singing in my head for the rest of the day
Now I will be listening to that song..
HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY
Yes but have you heard “gotta go home” by boney m?
Russia's smallest uwu bean.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I JUMP STRAIGHT FROM PM SEYMOUR TO OFFHAND DISNEY!
The Sinister 11 are at the Walt Disney World and the Tokyo Disneyland Haunted Mansion, the sinister 11 should be at the Disneyland Haunted Mansion where the portraits will be renamed the "sinister 16" where the Sinister 11 portraits will be along with Constance Hatchaway, Captain Gore, Guy Fawkes, Ivan the Terrible and Ramsley.
daphne’s portrait would be so cool!
The skeletal bride one at the end reminds me of Phantom Manor. At the start, the bride is young, at the end, it's a skeleton.
It was ironically realized as, not only Melanie Ravenswood in the Phantom Manor, but also the _original_ Bride in the attic when the Disneyland and Magic Kingdom Haunted Mansions opened in 1969 and 1971, respectfully.
I love the still life paintings of the flowers and fruit, wilting and decaying. Also of the farm being decimated by the Dust Bowl.
I think the still life paintings were scrapped because they didn't feature any of the happy haunts. Most of the pics used were portraits.
0:48
Six fans and Anne Boleyn stans: *BEHEADED*
I greatly enjoyed looking over the portrait of the Miser when I first came across it.
Especially because his face doesn't change when he catches on fire. Like bursting into flames isn't even the worst thing that's happened to him that day (of course, the last one shows that it really wasn't...).
Totally the heiress, I’m starting to realize where they got the idea for Constance in the first place.
If I am not mistaken, you may have missed a few more abandoned changing portraits. There was the Sea Swallowed Captain (my guess a reference to the ride's original story line) who is standing before the wrecked remains of his whaling ship.
A similar nautical-themed portrait is much closer to the one we have today, but when it transforms, you see the ghosts of the captain and crew emanating from the skeletal ship; my guess is that it is a reference to the Flying Dutchman.
I've heard rumors that there was a portrait of the Pied Piper of Hamelin planned for the mansion, since his story is a Grim Fairy Tale. I usually chalked up the Arsenist as the Piper because of this
Rotting fruit and the wilting flowers would have been perfectly in set for the mansion and really capture the decay.
0:52
The Old Miser made me laugh after seeing the deed
Offhand Disney, thanks so much!!!! Awesome. There are so many layers to each part of the Haunted Mansion.....
Honestly this series is the highlight of my day
* 0:52 The Old Miser looks pretty cool
* 1:38 Dracula would've been a good one
* 2:24 The Walpurgis Witch woulda been awesome
* 2:44 The Arsonist/Werewolf
* 3:17 The Heiress (I actually heard she was named Constance Hatchaway before they put in Black Widow Bride)
The Arsonist/Werewolf. At least they had a werecat.
I remember when I was young there was this special effects shop selling a portrait just like the ones at Disneyland. I wanted one so bad but they were $600-$750 🤑, which was out my budget unfortunately 😔.
"The Arsonist (also he's a werewolf)"
Why in the 7 circles of Hell did that make me laugh so hard? XD
Another great video! I think most of those portraits were understandably cut lol, but there were a few great portraits.
The Walpurgis Witch is a nod to walpurgisnacht.
Count Dracula looks more like wolf then a bat. And speaking of wolves, why didn't they include the Arsonist werewolf?
At least they had a werecat on a couch:
Yes! I was waiting for you to do a video of the sinister 11! Thank you!
I really like the burning miser and Dracula 🧛♂️ these have to get put in
Hi! I've been binging your videos and with this one, a handful of these were actually used in the haunted mansion video game! They're your loading screens. That game came out when I was 14 and is one of my favourite obscure video games, i would cry if they remastered that lol but i have it on my Wii homebrew since the original copy got lost. But it was played so much when i was younger.
If they had the werewolf and goat witch woman as portraits in the gift shop I would totally buy it
Walpurgis (Vall-per-gis) is a reference to walpurgisnacht which is technically a german catholic saint's day but is more traditionally seen as a pagan holiday celebrating the coming of spring and witchcraft in general by like...everyone else for some reason? Pretty fun ngl. Lots of bonfires
The Wilting Flowers were part of the limited edition lenticular card set released in 1999 for the Mansion’s 30th. There were five altogether with Medusa, April/December, Panther Lady, and Skeleton Knight.
A lot of these don't seem too bad now, but in the 60s I'm sure it would've been a big deal.
Honestly most of them are good. The Witch with a goat's head would've been pretty dark and spooky even for today's crowd I think. A good number of these I feel would have worked okay with the current lightning change style we have, but there's definitely a few that would have probably only been good on the slow transitional style. Farm, Fruit, Werewolf/Arsonist, Rotting Fruit....those ones I don't think would have looked as good. Also Jack The Ripper looks like a human Hatbox Ghost. Skeletal Bride would have been cool until we got Constance, and I feel it would have worked in Phantom Manor.
The Heiress and Loving Couple seem to smack of Constance and her....unique way of dealing with her husbands. Both would have worked well with the lightning flash.
Rasputin is just kinda creepy in general. He was a creepy man. He was also Russia's Greatest Love Machine, but thats another story for another time. The eyeball effect wouldn't have really worked with the lightning flash that we have, it would've only worked with that slow transitional style IMO.
The flowers that wilt and die.. I like that one.. Thank you 4 ur videos! I really enjoy them.
That one of the farm decimated by the storm sounds awesome.
This is so interesting. I will definitely never think of the Haunted Mansion the same the next time I ride it.
EDIT: I saw the little string thing that makes Madame Leota float and now I'm quite sad.
The skeletel bride looks like a fit!
Anyone else see those girls starting at 1:55 who are on their phones in their Doom Buggy? They should be exiled and never allowed to return.
Thank you for referencing the best song ever. 1:57
I really want to know who the guy trying to get out of the coffin is.
Oh wait....... ITS JEAN LAFITTE!!!!
Close. According to Ghost Gallery he is Jamie Padgett, Little Leota's husband, Frank Banks, Constance's second husband or Billy Bob, Carlotta and Renatta's lover. But it would be cool if he was JEAN LAFITTE
Wait
Jamie Padgett
Jean Laffite
They neither begin with J and both have 2 t's in their names. Coincidence? I think not.
Jamie is Jean confirmed.
Both not neither. I swear my iPad's autocorrect gets worse every update
Lol nope.
@ISS Oof.
The one where the eyes grow big would have been like something from those old MGM cartoons.
I like that they didnt include King Henry the eighth
Hey dude keep up the good work!!! I’ve been dealing with depression for a while and your videos have been one of the best parts of the past year. I’m loving every minute you put out so congrats!!!!
Hang in there! Disney Stuff is great to cure depresion!
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I had no idea that was Rasputin! I love the portrait even more now! I actually finished Faust not too long ago so I definitely see the reference. God, I love these portraits
The werewolf would be awesome because not only does it seem haunted mansiony, but you can also hear a werewolf or wold howl in the loading area
We need to add the Dracula and burning miser to the HMCU they both look amazing
You also forgot ol' Guido Fawkes AKA 'Guy Fawkes'. He was meant to feature in the ride.
I wish they all had made it in they all seem so cool
The skeleton bride and the wear wolf would have been cool to see
It was ironically realized as the _original_ Bride in the attic when the Disneyland and Magic Kingdom Haunted Mansions opened in 1969 and 1971, respectfully, and eventually as the skeletal Melanie Ravenswood in Phantom Manor.
The skeletal bride. It would go well with the theme of the black widow bride. Maybe they could incorporate some story where Constance actually died shortly after murdering her last husband.
My favorites would have to be Dracula and the Arsonist/Werewolf.
The witch that changes into a satanic goat with a demon behind her would have been truly terrifying and unsettling to have seen as a child.
I wish that they kept the flower one, the farm one, the girl and her ghost groom, and the skeleton bride.
I like to imagine that in a different universe these paintings made it into the ride.
you should talk about the two ghost women that sit outside the Haunted Mansion during Mickeys Not So Scary Halloween party in Disneyworld (Ive never been to Disneyland so I dont know if they are there too).
The farm one seems so scary, almost apocalyptic. Like a dead world with nothing left but wind. If anyone could get a link to the original I would love that.
I'd love to see all of these come back in some way... there so clever
The old miser and the werewolf would have been awesome additions to the portrait gallery.
I Just Replayed "The Haunted Mansion" Video game and I Noted that some of other portraits from this Video is also can be found in the game.
Holy wow I wish so many of those existed, they are beautiful
One thing that’s scary about the burning man painting is the old man himself because I fear angry people.
These are all really cool, I wish they made it.
I really wish Faust hadn't been dropped.
To be mythological correct, naiads are river spirits and dryads are tree spirits.
These have become my favorite videos!
The werewolf one would have definitely been cool.
At least they had a werecat .
That's such a friendly looking Jack The Ripper. He was misunderstood, is all. haha
Do a video about how the Haunted Mansion is mysteriously two mansions in one. I'm talking about how the building you enter is a three-story white antebellum manor in pristine condition (or a three-story brick Dutch Gothic Revival manor at WDW) and then during the attraction, after the stretching room, it somehow becomes a seemingly two-story run-down Victorian house with a conservatory and an attic on the second floor. Completely different architecture. You first see a glimpse of this alternate mansion in the stretching room when the lights go out. Notice the cupola the Ghost Host hanged himself in is octagonal and has four windows, while the cupola you saw outside is hexagonal with six windows (at Disneyland). My theory is that the mansion you ride thru during the actual ride exists in another dimension: the Spirit World. Remember the sign that used to be at the end of the ride: "DEAD END! Prepare to Exit to the Living World."
Now that was eye opening 😉
The werewolf portrait now is supposed to be a representation of the Pied Piper. He's holding a sack because in the original story, he kidnapped the village's children after the village didn't pay him for ridding the streets of rats with his pipe. So I guess he got a bit salty because he shoved all the kids in the sack. Also "The Couple" is actually supposed to be of Lizzie Borden's parents now.
BTW - this is a great series. Love it
They should rotate a few of these every year after Haunted Mansion Holiday closes
Thats a good idea. I know they have other effects they never used.
As the changing portraits became one image that changed into another with a lightning flash...therefore,two images...it's easy to see why some of these weren't chosen. The burning miser,for example,is six separate images. Now,if they made them like the Master Gracey portrait in the entrance foyer of the WDW mansion.....
wow they had alot of good ones.
have you ever made a video about how these portraits work? because I have no idea
when I saw the "Jack the Ripper" painting photo I thought I saw it before, Then I remembered it was one of the paintings in "The Haunted Mansion" Video game I have on the GameCube.(and maybe other Gaming consoles) It was not apart of the "changing" portraits puzzle in the game. (When are you going to talk about the Video game of It? Not that I mind.) P.S. The game's story is not the same as the Movie.
To me the burning miser is REALLY scary. I think it takes the theme of the mansion a bit to much over the top.
A more interesting question might be, "What changing portraits would you like to see, even if they have never been considered before?" A number could come from fairy tales, many of which are quite dark. The easiest -- too easy, in fact -- would be the wicked queen / witch from Snow White. The Pied Piper is the one I'd really like, though -- but that is probably TOO dark for Disney.
I wish Dracula was a changing portrait
Great Ra Ra Rasputin reference!
Love this
ahaha....the Boney M reference is fantastic
I would like to know How the effect work to change the portraits
I like the miser, the heiress, and the stabbing lady and her victim
I feel like "The Arsonist" is a reference to the Lawrence Massacre in Lawrence, Kansas. Or maybe it has nothing to do with Lawrence at all and I'm just a hopeless Kansan who desperately wants my state to be noticed, idk
am i the only one who thinks those changing portraits w ould be a good merch item like they sell a more led screen like one or something for people to collect.
I wish they kept the bowl of rotting fruit. That ride simply does not have enough fruit on it.
How *spoopy*
There is a playlist of all of these, right? If not, please make a playlist.
That Rasputin reference 😅
I loooove the idea of the flower, it's beautiful yet creepy
btw, where can I get your background music of grim grinning ghost? :)
god i love how dark these are... especially that last one with the heart stabbing and all those other satanic ones
Is there any way to buy prints of these? I'd love the Jack the Ripper one
Sadly the portraits in the loading area of WDW don’t follow you with their eyes anymore.
Oh, too bad they never used that skeleton bride pic. I guess one version does have something similar and then there's Phantom Manor. Quite interesting, they should have used them all.
I'm always here for a good Boney M reference!
I haven't been to Disney world a ton (at least not as much as some people), but I do think I know it pretty well (I have a minor obsession). However I can't remember for the life of me where the portraits that follow you with their eyes are. Could someone let me know?
Oh! The one where the portrait changes to show the woman stabbing the man in the heart? They couldn't use it because they didn't want to pay me anything for my life story rights.
the burnning miser a grumpy oldman bursting into flames talk about a hot head if ya know what i mean
What is the actual mechanism behind the changing portrait? It's not just a screen, is it?
Yup. Nowadays it is. If you try to film them, you'll break the illusion as the fps of the screens are extremely unlikely to match the ones on your camera (they're much slower).
DBS do you know what the original effect was? They didn’t exactly have LCD screens at the time.
It's the Sinister 11 everyone
I wish Jean Laffiete made the cut.