Unboxing the Gryphon Apex. Perhaps the worlds best Amplifier?
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- čas přidán 12. 12. 2022
- This video is the unboxing of the amazing Gryphon Apex Amplifier at the Command Performance Experience Center in Falls Chruch, VA. Please enjoy. Don't forget to like and subscribe. Thanks for watching!
Very cool amp but Bob and Boo Boo hit me in the feels, really beautiful puppy dog 😍
Is Boo Boo a McNab?
What an absolute behemoth of a power amplifier! Incredible, really.
Looks very nice
Heard one at CAF sound very musical and transparent
Great Stuff.
Thanks
This is perfect for powering a pair of bookshelves!
Ive got a system consisting of used speakers that cost £75, a free 30 year old Harman Kardon amp, a £25 pre amp and a used technics turntable that cost me £150 to service, and in the space I have to use it, it sounds wonderful. Gives me about 200 grand spare to buy another house.
We all have different priorities and dreams in life and different budgets. That's the beauty of life and there's nothing wrong with any of them.
I loved my first budget systems too, but there is no comparison in ANY shape or form to my current 100K stereo/cinema system.
On a budget I listened to music, with hi end I experience music. It's like every time I play music I'm sitting in the front row at a concert. Stunning berillium resolution, instrument seperation, sense of space and low 19htz bass. Some of my cds I've known very well for over 30 years, but only now I can hear for the first time sound frequencies which were not possible to reproduce before.
@robotstonka7118 each to his own man, but would be a complete waste on my dodgy ears. Constant tinnitus in both sides and several frequencies missing. Enjoy your passion, if it sounds good to you, that's all that matters.
Regarding the speakers, I had the same exact design idea for the baffle about fifteen years ago for a custom speaker I was building.
Been doing it since 1971, and this...... this is what comes to mind the Latin phrase "Ad Absurdum"
It's really a beautiful piece of equipment, but I can think of a hundred other things in the audio space that are much better for the price.
Dang guys. I got to see and hear that thing. I will swing buy in the next week or so.
for a high end sound video, the sound is faaaar away
Greetings, excellent video
A video on how to connect it up and feedback after listening to it would be nice.
Thanks for sharing.
Lucky guy to have this wonderful class A amp !!!
Nah Technics class A is the best
@@Sir_Den HAHAHAH !
Keep wishing that is the best
@@Sir_Den hahaha good joke. Gryphon is far superior.
Technics is mid-fi
Nah tell me does that have svi and sankens in it? does it go into dc?
Jay's Audio Lab luvs ❤️ his Apex 😊
That guy is a major 🤡 In a blind test he couldn’t tell the difference between a Gryphon and a Yamaha from Best Buy.
The lights dim in the neighborhood as he turns it on!
A true work of art. An amplifier of this caliber deserves white gloves handling. Did he say 450 pounds?
No white gloves on this one because of the weight and size. One person (not at our store) had a finger crushed because of a slip. We thoroughly cleaned the unit afterwards.
I listened to the Apex with a pair of 80,000 dollar Wilsons. Seriously folks, there is a significant law of diminishing return. Not remotely better than a system costing 1/10th the cost.
So true. At some point you are paying tens of thousands for maybe a slight improvement. I will say, the very high priced kit looks great.
magnifico.👌👌👌👌👌👌
Comgratulations dudes happy listenings and Sweet and Merry Christams 🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎁🎁🎁🎁
I was thinking of getting one of those, but I have a pair of Bose 301’s and I hear those can be power hungry. Can that amp be bridged so I can get a pair of them? I would hate to under-drive my speakers.
Magnifico.💪💪💪💪💪💪
Anche l'assegno che DEVI STACCARE È MAGNIFICO 😂🎉😂
Cool.
I have to much, but it’s still not enough. I need this Gryphon. Beyond ridiculous for more than the obvious. Why did you edit out removing the plastic slide sheet from under the amp? Crazy unboxing that ludicrous beast next to those Rockports. I guess I’ll wait until the next Black Friday or Open Box to get a deal. I have a Parasound, will you take a trade in? ☮️
We did not think people would be interested in the removal of the sheet. This is a lesson learned and we will continue to try to improve our videos.
Is door-to-door lifetime service included? Serious quiestion, I could not imagine to send this thing to different country/city to for example change some resistor/capacitor...
No one ever talks about how this thing sounds and whether it's worth it
We have not posted on the sound because we did not want to make this to create a lot of flames from haters or make this into a pure sales pitch. I can say that I absolutely love the sound, but of course, that is my opinion and what matters most is each listener's preference. I encourage people to visit their local Gryphon dealer and judge for themselves.
With the new Smart Electric meters my electric bill would be 5k a month with that CLASS A amp in the state of California.
be interested to know why they used one chassis
Fine example of the law of diminishing returns.
It is an indulgence, not that there is anything wrong with that. Does it sounds better than other things? Moot.
@@KeithHeinrich True. Personally I'd indulge myself in other ways with that kind of money. But each to his own, etc.
Probably good to mention that you'll need extra strong circuit breakers!
220, 221, whatever it takes
Yes, your right. You need to dedicated 20 amp outlets. This also works on a duplex on a 30 amp line.
Why. At 210 WPC it should run on any 15 amp 120 v breaker. Hell, one of my vintage receivers puts out 330 watts per channel and does fine blasting loudly on a 15 amp breaker.
@@AudioGuyBrian ...an old Carver will put out 1200 bridged with a 12 amp fuse.
@@roylcraft @AudioGuyBrian power requirement wise it’s an apples and oranges comparison. This is a class A amplifier which means it’s not very power inefficient. Not sure which “old Carver amp” you’re referring to but many of them had switch mode power supplies so even more of apples and oranges in that respect. Given the power supply and the output design It consequently inherently generates a lot of heat in the form of wasted power so it needs a substantial amount of heat sink surface. Is this thing practical? Well, it’s as practical as a McLaren or Koenigsegg or Aston Martin automobile for daily driving but you don’t buy those to get groceries or take the kids to the pool, you buy them to make a statement. This amp is a statement piece so just accept it as such.
In general for high tech product development, it would have to also consider minimizing the product footprint, weight, complexity and cost of material AT THE SAME TIME achieving the best performance (in this cast best Sound Quality) -- that would be the real value of a great product. What Gryphon did is just apart of it -- trying to achieve SQ without any constraint (some beyond reasonable limits for general usage). I would give it a fail grade as far as product development is concern.
Agreed
Think about this: who are the consumers of these expensive gears? Most of them are aged audiophiles -- no matter how they love this and can afford it and have a mansion to put it , they will have to move this heavy iron and to consider if its physical size and dark color is intrusive to their high style living kingdom. So many times I was thinking about get one of these but abandoned the idea after considering their weights! In this case why not break it into two monos since it is a dual mono with two power cords anyway? What is Gryphon thinking?
But is not very dificult,the nylon that slides at the botton of the amp helps a lot
Holy shiiit. I skipped around a little bit you might’ve said, but how much power is it rated for and what class?
Hello Davey, The APEX is class A rated and the power output is 2 x 210W @ 8W, 2 x 420W @ 4W, 2 x 800W @ 2W and 2 x 1490W @ 1W at 115V/230Vac
Why in the world would you not go with 2 separate amps?
Totally impractible
So funny. While we appreciate how small and powerful modern computers and smartphones are others seem to think bigger equals better 😂. I guess a smaller component makes it harder to justify the outrages price tag.
colossus
I think this thing is horrifying to look at it. If they sell more than four of these things I would be surprised.
An absolute Masterclass on how to waste Money.....
I must be honest I could name a few European brands that I’ve owned that are truly kicking USA brands ass 🥊🕺
Mainly the CH Precision amps.
AudioNet Stern and Heisenberg combo. To rule them all.
@@ljuboizsiska5448 I've heard CH Precision (P1, L1, and M 1.1 monos) and Audionet products (the G2 and the Max) head to head in extensive comparisons and it wasn't even close. The CH stuff had the same amount of detail with more realistic tonal colors, better micro's and macro's, more realistic textures, better sense of scale, a better grip on the bass, and better imaging. The AudioNet had better transit speed and far better attack that gave it the appearance of more speed, but at the expense of a shorter sustain and decay.
@@helgar791 Blah, blah, blah. Audiophiles never cease to amaze me with their use of adjectives. It is quite hilarious actually.
@@maxwired2235 And one day when you become an adult and have a chance to listen to a well set up system using over familiar recordings in a familiar or home environment get back to me. But to give some edification for your meager mind, the human ear/brain becomes as well educated with long experience just as your hand has become educated with your genitals. Or for those who have accomplished something in their lives, as any muscle memory ingrained basketball player does a drop step without thought.
I alredy put that monster out and in of the crates at least 4 times.
Best amps
Why did you mute the sound when you stroked the heatsink?
Cause it ringed😂
Construction majority made from extruded heat sink is dirt cheap as compared with Dan Agostino, Milled from solid blocks of aluminium and integrated seamlessly with copper heat sink.
How did Santa get that down your chimney?
They couldn't wait until the 25th of December. Impatient men.....⏏⏹⏺⏪▶⏩⏸
I love my Gryphon amplifier. It's the best i have ever owned
Why do you feel this way? What makes it different from the other amplifiers out there. I'm thinking of buying one having owned Macintosh monos 611. I have another room I need to set up.
@@iampuzzleman282 Mcintrash is too slow.
@@zencoatlrios1357 too slow?
@@iampuzzleman282 compare to solution, pilium, ch, boulder, even gryphon... yes really too slow.
Think this cat has been reading too many audio magazines.
Would like to see the inside of this monstrous amplifier
Mostly concrete
@@chrisgoodson9312 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He does not own it
If you don't wanna post information on the sound, fine. But maybe post some information on why someone might benefit from such a massive amplifier and how the sound may differ from lesser amplifiers.
Had a chance to compare the same model to a Macintosh tube amplifier mc3000. This is a nice amplifier but it's overhyped.
You now have an expensive room heater. Now you need to pay for AC to cool the room.
Have a listen to Linn 500 Klimax solos amplifiers, no need for outdated massive power amps
so like 40 wpc?
Look at the size of that amp
The question one may ask is what is the most ridiculous : the weight, the size or the price of this thing ? May be all ?… Sure you’ll get same (or perhaps better…) audio quality for a lot lighter, smaller and… cheaper unit !
Yea. That's just a rich man's bragging right's piece. Stupid.
265 kgs? ! Holy smokes ! That amplifier weighs almost the same as my woodworking jointer . Why so heavy?
Class A is really inefficient with power, so they had to put on lots of heat sink, the two transformers alone are 40kg a piece
That looks like a hemi V8
Amazing what we spend to listen to music
it truly is, and how giddy he is talking about that "great world-class" power cord...which plugs into a receptacle with basic romex wiring...
Gryphon would argue that all it needs would be at minimum, a sheet of foil wrap strips from the wall to reach peak performance for critical listening.
Each outlet is an Oyaide R-1 with 10 awg wire, though it is only Romex wire
That is a big amp. What is the output into 8 ohms. Being that big I would expect at least 5,000 watts per channel. I have an amp that puts out 2,400 watts per channel and its only 1/3 that size.
Just 210WPC into 8 ohms at a cost of $100,000.
2400 watts pure class A???
Or are you just pulling words out of your ass?
Be funnier if it were 8 wpc.
Pure Class A my friend. Wouldn't be anywhere near 5000w per. All the weight would be in the toroidal X 2 (if that's what they use) dual or perhaps quadruple winding power supply to sustain class A operation. Look at the heatsinks
@@endorphinsftw6218 That's it? For a 100 grand? What a rip-off.
Mr Plastic Gryphon machine AMP😀 Take the top off and see what kind of scrap parts it's made.
Yay better than Jay!
Thanks!
Audiofoolery - a license to print money 💰
Price point 60-75k?
$103,500 US
@@commandav1 WOW Amaazing piece of equipment Gotta go get more Lotto tixs thanks
Worlds best amplifier I will never know : (
you can turn off the furnace too
Some people have all the luck.
Wow, I thought my Michi was heavy...
be maverick and use it to drive ak5
How's the amp sound????? Ridiculous big.
It does sound "big", yet very subtle at the same time.
How silly 😜
Big yes , expensive yes , BUT this amplifier is to noisy , it can not play low level -140dB ,( 24bit High resolution)
worlds best amp ,,,well they have not heard of FM, ACOUSTICS. from switzerland.
How much $$ is this "Great Value" ? #ocdhifiguy
The current price is $100,000 USD. Unfortunately, there will be a price increase coming at the end of this week for all Gryphon products..
@@commandav1 do you know what percent ?
@@OCDHIFiGuy 3.5% on this unit. I watch your videos...nice work.
256 KG? No way
Problem is, at his age, his hearing will have deteriorated to the extent that he won't appreciate refinement against one costing 10% of this one.
Makes my 60kg Michi S5 look like a little toy
Audiofoolery. This doesn't come close to a Benchmark's measurable performance, and even a Purifi module will run circles around it, for a fraction of the cost.
LoL this is like something out of SpinalTap.... Uh, me Amp is 400lbs plus, she is 4ft long and it goes to 11" BC, well it's one more isn't it mate"
The amp does have a "big bottom" end.
When I see the age of grandfathers, I tell myself that you have to be deaf or senile to believe that such a device can make music... 🤔
🤣🤣🤣
Now let's see how it measures
How it sounds is more important
$100 grand? Gimme a Break!
for crying out loud just lift the damm thing.
Looks like a V8 engine..... it is weird in the general Danish population this company is totally unknown....
Most Danes only know about Bang and Olufsen junk
Where's the proof of such things?
Bob had too many lines.
Why does it measure so poorly?
Gryphon Apex Amplifier cost $ 99.000 normal people can't pay this amplifier.
Aggggh ... why aren't they wearing white cotton gloves rather than leaving greasy fingerprints all over it. It's pretty basic stuff when handling hifi , speakers tv etc.
Too big, too heavy. Why not to build two separate units? Simply megalomaniac
This is where the brand is heading
Hello Paolo. Gryphon does makes Monoblocks. Building the Apex amp in two chassis would dive up the cost and only be minimum smaller. That would also require 4 power cords VS. 2.
@@commandperformanceav
Each monoblock would be substantially smaller, for obvious reasons.
There would also only be one power cable per chassis, since this stereo chassis only has two. Not sure why you think with half the power output, each monoblock would need two power cables.
@@BoronAlloyEach APEX monoblock is exactly the same size as a stereo unit.
Thanks for not showing the hard part. That of how you strained to remove the green mat from under the amp. To all the naysayers, just because some amps may have newer or more innovative technology doesn't mean that older technologies, when well applied and designed, doesn't match or exceed any newer tech.
Hater
Removing the mat was not to bad. One person lifts a corner while the other moves the mat.
@@aspjake123 Of Gryphon? Hardly. Listen to the video and you'll hear that Gryphon doesn't use new tech. A hater of new tech? Hardly. I think the CH Precision stuff is an easy match for anything Gryphon produces, and their tech is fairly innovative.
I listened to some amps from this company. *NEVER* liked them or their sound signature. To my ears the D'Agostino or DartZeel are *MILES* better in musical enjoyment. Heck, I listened to sub 10k valve amps that I would much rather have than any Gryphon amps.
its only yours irrelevant opinion….
The amplifier for Russian and Arab oligarchs.
Nyet
It is like an amplifier, but much more ugly. Gryphon seem to make the least attractive high end gear.
How unnecessary is that thing?
Exactly
Completely necessary for audiofools.
@@bubblehead5394 There's just So many things that will give you the same power, low noise, 1/4 the size and cost.
@YourChildrensGhost Agreed. These amps cater to those who have nothing better to spend their money on. Just a luxury, no actual benefit other than bragging rights.
Only if you can't afford it
I cannot say anything other then Gryphon is really hyped. Nothing is special in the technical department, chassis or whatever. There is also tests that shows that it cannot come up to the ultimate class like Jeff Rowland and Boulder. Despite the price is in the same league. We know it that both Boulder and Jeff Rowland has unique tech and even chassis that are machined to avvoid
resonance.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Just pulling words out of your ass.
@@henriksrensen3220 first if I was going to buy an amplifier in that cathegory I would choose from Pass Lab or D`Agostino they ar made from legends in the business. If you should go next level I would look at those brands that takes it a step further with even more sophisticated technology. There are unfortunately some that believe more expensive is better.....
@@henriksrensen3220 BTW there is a really good comparison between Boulder and Gryphon here at CZcams you could easy listen to them both A/B tested and you will hear what I am talking about. The Gryphon has lack of 3 dimensionality and does not reproduce the absence of the room within the record. Just listen to it and I am sorry to say, for me it is no match.
@@olejohnnyprestbakken1145 I have listened to pass labs integrated amplifiers. I have also listened to Luxman and accuphase. The gryphon Diablo 120 is the best of them all. To me there is no match
@@henriksrensen3220
Theres no dignity to playing music from this. It's like driving a muscle car to a funeral.
Why there are no female audiophile designers? Voxativ does not count ;)
Wow 😲😲😲 you don't see that beast everyday. It a magnificent beauty and the beast 😍. Definitely it a dream to own them. I can't afford it, may I ask...how much in US currency?
I think it's around $100,000. Problem is there are so many other very good amp solutions that are much cheaper. If you don't need 100 w class A and maybe can live with 30W class A the solutions I think become much much cheaper. Even the Schitt Tyr at $3200 is supposed to be pretty good for the penny pinchers out there.
@@gzubeck3 thanks for your useful advice.
Now, I have Vitus SL 103 preamplifier and sm 103 mono blocks, what is your up opinion s and down side opinions? Thanks
@@jackhuang1434 If you already own them and they play nice with your speakers then keep them. I went out and found a youtube demo and they sound completely clean and Neutral. There is a sweetspot for listening volumes and if you don't need more power you could be wasting dollars. If you have really demanding speakers (Low DB) then something like the Gryphon might be a solution if you have the money to spend.
How long does it take to order one of that beast?
Times vary by when ordered. Right now it takes about 3 months.
Just to clarify, you said 260Kg . I doubt this very much. Is it 260lb ???
Kilos
Shipping weight is 260kegs...amp weight is 202kg
imagine the dog pee'd on it !! !
No pee on this amp. Though I did have a beagle pee on a CJ amp once while it was playing. Fortunately, no damage to the dog or amp.
@@commandav1 lol.... the good thing is the dog would not do it a second time if it did get zapped !! hehe cheers !!!