Still the most relevant GR series review on youtube. To state the obvious - with this you're getting a great turning radius (not zero turn - but pretty close) with the added ability to haul heavier things (spreaders, sprayers, rollers, etc) and a much more robust towing limit than that of a typical Zero turn (I think the commercial zero-turn JD's can town 400 lbs) For me - in a commercial lawn care/maintenance application/business, this gets it done as opposed to a 'commercial' zero turn.
I’m glad diesels are back. My Kubota g4200 is about 35 years old. One of my favorite things about it is the engine uses a very little amount of diesel.
I bought one of these mowers in 2007, brand new and paid cash for it. I love that Diesel engine! Absolutely beautiful! BUT.... The Kubota just introduced the glide steer system on this mower. Everyone had issues with the cables that disengages the rear wheels. As of 2020, I have replaced 12 cables because they kept breaking. I understand this problem is now fixed. I have 427 hours on it now. Other than the cables issues, no problems whatsoever! I’m a true blue Kubota man. But I learned one thing on this particular purchase. You cannot count on Kubota helping you, even when Kubota admits to it being their mistake. They will be happy to sell me the new glide steer kit to fix mine for $320.00! Really nice since I paid over 8,000.00 for the mower and countless dollars and many many hours working on this system!!! They refused to talk with me early on and I don’t know why??? So, this is a fabulous mower. I love it folks. Hopefully you will not have issues like I did. They do have the glide steer repaired now. I suppose it is corrected. By the way, I was in and out of the hospital with a major surgery for over 4 years when I bought it and had this problem. My wife hates Kubota. Because she had to try and cut our yard while I slept 20 hours average a day. No wonder she’s upset with them. So good luck with your purchase. I believe this dealer is very good. But don’t count on Kubota reaching out to help you. Other than that it’s a fantastic mower! God bless.
You're not the first to report this experience with Kubota. I have heard this same kind of report from other customers about Kubota when it comes to warranty claims they don't want to pay.
Those tractors are awesome!!! I started my landscape company with one of these in high school and I still buy them for snow plowing. We do commercial snow and these are great for doing sidewalks and they are a lot cheaper then the bigger tractors.
Own a G1800 with 3'229 hours. Bought with 3'222. Injectors were rebuilt previously, blades were sharpened and maintenance was pretty well kept and it's absolutely awesome. Love the 3 cylinder diesel and the G series is definitely very well built. Definitely like seeing how they have evolved since then. Also note, mine was not a 4 wheel steering and I also got a service/workshop manual as well so I hope to get years and years of dependable orange goodness.
First of all - love this machine especially for the sloped regions of our property that need to be mowed. I will vouch for the gas version of this machine, the GR2020. Even in the coldest -20C winter days , with the unit stored outside, the mower starts easily with minimal, if any, choke. The PTO 48" snowblower attachment with joy stick controls is really easy to use and clears our 400m driveway in 2 passes.
I have a gr2010 I purchased new in 2010 that has 967 hour and still going strong ...only thing I've had to replace are glide cables and blades...all around a great lawn mower
Kubota has always been way ahead of everyone else. I will be upgrading to this very soon. My dad has had a Kubota backhoe since 1981. Yep it still runs. 3 cylinder Diesel.
I have the GR2120 and absolutely love it. It is a very strong and capable work horse that has truly earned it's place among my arsenal of machinery on my farm. I think that the Glide Steer feature is underrated. It performs magnificently and the GR2120 is an an absolute delight to drive. Almost went with a Deere but at the time, the comparable Deere model was gas powered an $1300 more than the GR2120. We made the right choice. I would have been happy with the Deere. I am elated with the Kubota.
Now those are awesome lawn tractors!!!! Power steering shaft drive deck and 4wd and diesel power!!!! Gotta love it!!! I'm sure they are more expensive than many others but they sure look awesome!!! And if money is no object... I would definitely buy one!! This thing looks like you could use it a lifetime and pass it down to your son and grandson !!! Surely this is the absolute best you can buy!!!
Tractors yes...but the decks.....garbage. There's something about the way they're made, they don't have enough lift. And the cut is not a finish cut. I have the 54" deck and it leaves a strip of grass right in the middle of the cut.
I loved my 2110 when it came to hills. I did have transmission problems and glidesteer cable breakage. I realize that the glidesteer cables have now been replaced by rods. The only concern I believe still exists is the blade tip speed. It's just a little slow as compared to quality ZTs. I ended up trading mine in on a BX 2370.
We have a Gr2120 Kubota mower. We also have a John Deere 345 mower. The Kubota will mow circles around the Deere,, and that is saying something. The Deere is a really good mower. The Kubota is an exceptional mower. The blades are thicker and made of harder material and this Kubota mower really throws the grass. Definitely worth a look people. Gary Fox, Iowa.
Ok...after seeing this video, i went out and changed my intended purchase from a Gravely to a Kubota GR2120 lawn tractor. My lawn is absolutely great looking now.👍
Martin Rademakers, if you were looking at garden tractors, The Gravely professional G series garden tractors as well built as any brand past or present. While not 4wd the engine is direct coupled to the transmission of which all the weight is over the rear axle. I guarantee it will take 4wd to be able to out pull it. Mine is 31 years old, 12hp kohler. The tractor alone is 898lbs, 50” mower 200lbs and unlike most all new mowers I never have to run wot to get a good cut. Just saying you wouldn’t have hurt yourself with the Gravely. No doubt the Kubota should serve you well!
@@kennethsmith7002 Really, which model. I've had 2 Broadmoors. The first caught fire twice. The 2nd has been a maint nightmare with the B&S engine. I am in love with the cut quality and stripping! I am looking for a new machine now and never want another B&S engine! I have 2.25 acres of lawn with hills that kill ZT mowers. I tow aerators and spreaders. I don't know if I can do a 3rd Broadmoor.
Great tractors! Reminds me a lot of my cub cadet gt 2544 mainly the gr2020. If the grs were 2wd and had a cast iron transmission housing they would be identical machines.
The only reason honestly I subbed is you guys do have good informative Vids,and I would have likely not even have heard of your name if not from OneLonelyFarmer.
wow I didn't know that was an option for tractors like this I thought if you wanted something like this from a tractor you had to go strictly for a zero turn. I like what I see thank you
If these were available with a baby loader bucket I probably would have opted for one instead of the BX just because it would be easier to maneuver inside our horse stalls. But, the BX does fine.
Yeah I got a problem with my 2005 2100! After my wife tried it out, I never got to ride it any more;-( When we first got it, I backed it down the slope behind the leach field on wet grass. It didn't even think of spinning a wheel. (turf tires) Turns tight! Hey Neil, you forgot to tell the folks about the K1254-95211 kit Messicks sells to solve the bearing problem. I have never owned or leased vehicles or equipment with as a high of a level of support and parts availability as I get from Kubota and Messicks. hands down!
@@rockiemountin7535 No Problem. I swear by changing UDT 2x every season.(it's only about a gallon in that transaxle) Mine, oops sorry, My Wifes 2100 (early models only) still has bushings. The K1254-95211 bushings to bearings kit still available. Oil is always cheaper than parts. It runs another season, on it's original bushings! Great comment, good point! no problem.
@@cordialcortex3841 excuse my ignorance Bill but I really didn’t know there was a bearing problem I’m just looking into one of these tractors now, so did they change the newer model from bushings to bearings?
@@rockiemountin7535 Not at all, it is a valid question. Yes they did change to bearings but we never had a problem with the bushings (only found on the earliest models). Kubota offers a kit to change to bearings if needed. The GR2000 is the first gasoline model. GR2100 is the first diesel model made. The second two digits change for the newer models eg GR2010 and GR2110. etc. I think they are up to 2020 and 2120 by now. With frequent oil, fluid and filter changes our 2005 model year GR2100 diesel has never needed anything more than a Glide Steer cable. I changed the blades last year (first time) because they were too thin to sharpen any more. I replaced the Kubota battery in it (only 1 battery in 16 years) Nothing else, not a belt, hose, tire, has ever been changed. No carbeuretor or ignition problems with the diesel. The diesel sips fuel. It is amazing the amount of work we get out of it for what fuel we put in. It is easy to grease it shown by pictures in manual. Talk about a “turn key” operation, turn the key and mow:-) Kubota offers a snow blower for the GR series. It is All Wheel Drive after all!
Bought this mower last year. I have sloped elements in my lawn and this tractor with 4 wheel drive just performs very well. Zero turns are nice, but without 4 wheel drive, they’re just not an option for me.
@@rockiemountin7535 yes, definitely. The only other machine I would consider is the kubota front cut machine. I forget the model number, but the cost is prohibitive… like $35,000/$40,000!!! If you have sloping terrain, 4 wheel drive is the way to go.
My GR2120 has been a source of headaches ever since I bought it, with every spring bringing more. I bought it because it's a tiny bit lower in the seat than the Deeres, and for a 4x4 or AWD garden tractor, they are the only game in town. I've had the Gr2120 for five years now, and it's got 450 hours on it, so it's not used heavily. It replaced a 35 year old Wheelhorse that had fewer problems in its first 20 years than this has in its first 5. The STUPID design of modern lawn and garden tractors with high seats, makes it very difficult to cut under a semi-dwarf orchard, and the Kubota is, as mentioned a little lower than the Deeres. Still, it's high enough to make it an adventure to cut in the orchard, and I frequently bang my head on limbs. The Wheelhorse was much lower, but didn't have power steering or the tight turning radius that the GR does, so that, plus the AWD is a plus for the GR. The Wheelhorse had a ground-riding deck, while the GR has a hanging one, so the GR can't compare in terms of cut quality. Hanging decks just don't cut as nicely as decks that sit on the ground. My RFM on the bigger tractor even cuts smoother, and the RFM, of course, runs on the ground. I had problems with the GR deck gearbox, which required taking it to the dealer for repairs. Continuing problems with the driveshafts coming off and being every difficult to put back on are another headache. The diesel engine is great, but I think if I had it to do over again, I would buy an el cheapo lawn tractor at a big box store, and just throw it out an buy another when it broke down. I could buy about four or five of them for what the GR cost.
I see what appears to be the old style tie rod ends on these tractors. Are they interchangeable with the BX so that you can just buy the boots instead of being forced to buy the entire tie rod end product from Kubota?
Neal,, any new videos on fr séries and if Kubota improved transaxle issues from past, love watching your videós from east tn ,, I own a bx25d and love it ( a great shovel and wheel barrow in one ) 😀
Should we choose the 48 or 54 inch mower deck? Any pros cons other than being able to get closer to objects with the bigger deck? If I’m using this on slopes which makes the ground uneven should I get the smaller deck? It would make it easier to store in the garage.
I notice from videos of GR 2120 offered in England that dealers offer a rear discharge mower deck with a bagging system that looks sleek and ergonomic and ideal for tight spaces. This option is not offered by North America dealers it seems. I’m curious if anyone (maybe Neil) knows why? It seems so much more useful than the bagging system that hangs off the side discharge. Maybe the accessory is manufactured in Europe?
Not a very cheap lawn tractor by any means, but if you have a wildly landscaped hill you have to mow you are better off paying more and buying a lawn tractor with 4WD/AWD capability. The only thing is for the price they should have a rear lift hitch for small gardening attachments like a tiller, plow, etc. Why isn't those available? It would be a great selling point for many who don't need a big cumbersome utility tractor in their garden, but want the ease of being able to roto-till, plow, etc. in their garden. These smaller garden tractors are a perfect size for that, and with the AWD/4WD they've got the power and traction to handle those jobs.
Because the tractor industry forces you into another class of equipment so they can make a lot more money. They did this same thing with front mount mowers. Instead of giving you the capability on the front of a compact tractor like Europe does the tractor OEMs force you to purchase a turf tractor instead. It's all a game to bleed your wallet.
My work place just got these in for the site. I use them heavily for transport aswell as grass cutting so out of curiosity how fast does this shift? We previously used John deer 740x and the speed on that was ideal compared to say a John deer 450x
Hi, I'm looking at buying a 2008 gr2100-II. Hadn't heard of the issues until watching this video. Do you know if this model would still suffer from this problem? Thx
Hi and thanks for the great video , I have an opportunity to by a used GR2010 with 585 hours on it and really keyed in to your comments about the transmission bushings vs bearings . How do I know what the cutoff year is for that issue ? Thanks again
Thanks so much for the speedy reply, he says the steering cables have been replaced The pics look like a brand new machine The lawn I mow has some wet areas that get my sears garden tractors stuck in the mud , I'm thinking this would be a good replacement machine Thanks again
Thanks so much for the speedy reply, he says the steering cables have been replaced The pics look like a brand new machine The lawn I mow has some wet areas that get my sears garden tractors stuck in the mud , I'm thinking this would be a good replacement machine Thanks again
Kinda wish they didn't call it a garden tractor when it can't do any garden work. Its really a glorified lawn tractor with a slightly upgraded transmission. An actual heavy duty garden tractor is built just as strong as a scut. Even light duty GT's will do moldboard plowing and tilling.
I mean don't get me wrong I love the new comfort features and stuff but they aren't the same as the old school stuff. Both of my John Deere 332 diesel garden tractors have over 3,000 hours on them I still do work with both of them the lower hour one of the pair runs no different than it would have new the higher hour one of the pair is just starting to show signs of wear. Both my 332's are classified as a kind of in between Heavy Duty Garden Tractor and the Super Garden Tractor categories. Its capability are very similar to the Kubota BX and the John Deere 1R series tractors. If I were to recommend someone the newer equivalent of a old school garden tractor it would be a SCUT as they are the closest thing available to what the older GT's could do.
I'm not a JD fan and may be mistaken but the newer JD X7** or even the X5** series are said to be really close to the old school GT capabilities and being offered with sleeve or 3pt hitch options, heck even Cub Cadet is now offering a sleeve hitch for their XT3 series for ground engaging work. That is handy for a homeowner who just wants to do a little tilling/disc cultivating/plowing for a small backyard garden, flower beds, etc. It would seem that Kubota would want to follow suit with this model especially when offering it with a diesel engine. Just saying.
+Rude Dawg your right, the issue us though that those machines add up to the price of a vastly more capable BX1880 when fitted with the hitch kits. If kubota had rear hitch kits for the GR, no one would buy them.
I have slopes so have been worried about going to zero turn. Also desire a Diesel engine as have that now on farm. Issue I have with garden tractor mowers is seems they don't have blade tip speed of zero turns, 18,500, making mowing slower. What is blade speed on these mowers? I have 60" deck now, Kubota offer that on a garden tractor with 18,500 blade speed?
Jim Sullivan Blade speed isn't a factor as much as lift the deck produces. Most decks are 17,000 to 19,000. The wheel width is the most important factor for hills. The bx is super tippy where my kubota zd 326 zerp turn is nearly impossible to flip on a side hill, but the 4wd will give you more control. If you got the money the f series kubota's would be the way to go for the best of both worlds.
I have a CycloneRake with an 8" hose that attaches to an adapter to the discharge chute on my TG1860. Is there a similar adapter for this 54" deck, or will I be able to use the one that fits my TG1860?
It seems that all riding mowers are for grass. Are there any out there that can cut weeds that are 2 ft tall and almost an inch thick? Having a fully enclosed deck just pushes down the weeds such that the blades can't cut them.
If you need to heat it with glow plugs and it’s a new engine then there is a problem there. Unless it’s like 10 degrees outside or below zero. Otherwise you shouldint even need the plugs especially on such a compact engine that should have more then enough compression
Messick's : Do you know what year they switched from the bushing to the bearing in the transmission? I found a deal on a 2009 GR 2110 with under 100 hrs on it and i'm super interested as long as this isn't one of the more problematic years.
You can tell if it has the updated case. The two mounting bolts to the frame on each side are closer together with a rib between them on the newer case. The older case has a case bolt in between the two mounting bolts.
I am torn between a BX and the GR... I would assume the resale value is superior for the BX. I dont need all the attachments but if its marginally more expensive for the BX and a much higher resale/trade in value coupled with the potential that i could add attachments if my needs change - Would you say I should just go with the BX? Thanks & Love the Messick's CZcams Channel.
They replied to an older comment with this answer. A few years back some companies got sued because they were inflating their HP. In response several Japanese engine makers (Kubota and Kawasaki from what I know) preemptively gave their engines a more conservative HP rating to avoid any legal trouble (so no one could claim false advertising). So when this model came out, they rated it at 21hp, after the change it is at 17hp according to their web site. The engine hasn't change any, it's just a legal issue. It's the same thing with a Kawasaki, many of the mower style 2 cylinders are rated at 18.5 now, HOWEVER, they can run circles around a brigs and stratt that claims 21hp. Basically they are picking the low end of their numbers so they don't get in trouble, while someone like Briggs and Stratt is just full of themselves and hasn't bothered dialing their numbers back.
@@ghostgreywolf1850 Thanks for that good information. I noticed the same discrepancy between the current web specs and what was presented in this video. Also, my older and slightly smaller diesel TG1860 advertised 18 HP, so I was somewhat confused.
I love my John Deere x729 4 wheel steer better just because it had a beefier rear end that can support weights for the front mounted snowblower and it can do the same thing as this gr series kubota
Messick's The current brochures rate the GR2120 as 17hp. Has the engine been derated or is this information incorrect? Interested in this mower, but after I saw the new hp rating I’m not so sure.
@@themccains3185 same engine. they moved to a more conservative standard for rating engine HP. A few years ago several gas engine manufacturers where sued for over stating, they are likely being proactive. Other companies have not made this change.
@Yamaha Venture an x758 is much more tractor than this, but at a much higher price point. It's like comparing an F150 to an F350. In Kubota land if you wanted that kind of machine we'd be looking at a BX-series. Value for your money there is fantastic compared to a high-end garden tractor. Even in Deere's line what you get from a 1023E is much greater than their x7-series. Other than 'luxury lawn mowing', I kinda fail to see the point of that product line.
Have a customer asking if a T2290KW-42 mower could occasionally tow 800 pounds up a 20 degree slope. I know off the wall random type question, but wondering if anyone has some perspective on this. We tend to deal more with B-series tractors and up at my shop with Kubota products so a little unfamiliar and don't usually associate mower with towing so much
@@MessicksEquip Yeah I’m not sure what to tell the guy besides maybe jumping up to a GR, but even then very unrealistic expectations for a riding mower
Kubota probably doesn't but many implement makers offer pull behind spreaders that will work with any lawn or garden tractor. I have a drop spreader/spike aerator that works great, and I cannot say who made it for sure, I think its a Brinkley man that thing is built heavy, but works extremely well and my Cub-Cadet XT1 18HP lawn tractor pulls it just fine.
I would just love to get on of these as I perfer the lawn tracktors over a zero turn. but my land just to small for it. If you get on you find that these lawn tractors are well worth it for what they can do for you. In Ausreaila these lawn tracktors can seem a bit exspenive to matain. I ould go though a batery at $97.00 each ever one to two years. blades change about once a year They go from $25 stanard to $50 for a mulching set. Depening on what you can aford a Kubota GR series tractor sells in Austrasil for around about $11,500.00 They come with a 54 inch deck I have a 2018 Rover Rancher 547/38 that selled for $3700.00 and though it dos not cut as wide it has the same turning radi but though it only has a 38 inch deck though it 16 inch less but it still gets the job done. quilt well All blades on these garden tractors are usuly the same size my Rover Rancher 547/38 has two blades the Kubota GR series tractor has three blades. You will go though drive and blaid belts but on these they will usuly last for years they usuly cost around $38.00 each I have a five letre petrol tank that last for two hours.
I have been watching a lot of your videos and have done a ton of due diligence and hope you can clear up some confusion I have concerning this GR 2120. Kubota USA site shows it as a 17hp ( gas maybe), and the 21hp, as you stated, is the diesel. Correct? ( I have called dealers in my area and all are either unsure or have to ask someone else. This includes both sales and service department personnel. Secondly, the problems you have alluded to in prior units have supposedly been corrected and this series is new and improved and there are a couple of videos that say Not True. I am retired and cannot afford to throw good money after bad if this is not a good unit and will not serve my purpose which is primarily snow blowing up a steep incline. In one video you said a bx1880 would be troublesome blowing snow and one would need more HP, which I believe this 2120 has. Correct? So my question is simply, if I buy this machine will it serve my purpose and be a reliable entity and mostly trouble free in the future knowing I take proper care of maintenance on all my vehicles and assorted machines? Thank you for your anticipated reply and for making such informative and excellent videos.
The HP difference is only a change in reporting standards, nothing changed on the tractor itself. Like any product the GR is not perfect, but the frequency of trouble if a fraction of what it was on the prior models. Personally, I'd buy a BX and just drive slower in the snow if needed.
@@MessicksEquip I do not follow your "only a change in reporting standards, nothing changed on the tractor itself" comment. If an auto manufacturer reports hp of 300 it had better be 300, not 250 hp, same as them reporting mpg of 34, when the cars were actually getting 24 mpg, so there is a difference. I have had a KB sales manager raise his voice to me when I questioned his telling me the 2120 only had 17hp vs 21hp. It's a simple question I am asking...which Hp is correct? At 6:53 of this video you say it is a 21hp. Sales people in my area also report 21hp, some service dept. people say it is 17hp , others say 21hp, which leads me to ask myself ..do they even know what they are servicing/selling? No one in any dealership I have called can tell me what cc it is and we all know cc is torque which drives the machine and therefore the snowblower. A simple question for a simple answer, what is the hp and cc of a GR 2120 machine?
@@andysear15 There has been no official communication on this from Kubota, I'm reading between the lines. 4-5 years ago Briggs and Kohler were sued for overstating engine HP. Diesel engines did not get wrapped up in that. Kubota's legal dept is wildly conservative. I believe whats happening here is that they are positioning themselves that if this lawsuit makes it to diesel engines they are already compliant. Thus why we're seeing this change on paper. They are adopting a higher standard of testing than what was used years ago. Regardless of the number, the machine does not lack for power :-)
@@MessicksEquip Now THAT's an answer I can live with and I thank you for it. I take it then that I will have no problem moving snow up an incline, and I am good with that. The BX was too much of a machine for me and my circumstances, no matter what speed I used it in. I believe the 2120 fits my needs and will now go and purchase one. Good job Neil.
why don't any of the manufacturers make pto driven tilling equipment for garden tractors anymore? they all offered tillers years ago. Asking because my primary need is for a tiller not a mower and don't really need to go up to the sub compact range.
They don’t make the equipment because the tractors to run them are not made any more. Modern garden tractors don’t have pto drives. However, John deer, brinley? and husqvarna offer belt driven slave hitch mounted tillers in 30-36 inches. Tow behind self powered ATV type tillers are also available, they are popular with people planting food plots in wooded areas. All ranging in price from $1500- $3000, none as effective as a 3 point 54 inch tiller on a 40 hp tractor.
@@jaxturner7288 I am absolutely not interested in the self powered tillers I have used them in the past and felt them to be to light and lacking in quality. Not to mention I simply don't want yet another engine to maintain for only two or three uses a year. So looks like I'll be on the look out for a used JD hydraulic tiller and suitable tractor. Thanks for the response.
Harry Rembe I’ve never owned one but a few people I know have and they never had anything good to say about them. Constantly breaking sheer pins and burning up bearings from just twisting vines and long grass around the shafts is what I remember. Renting a BX and a 48” tiller couple times a year is always an option. When I have a really dirty or equipment abuse heavy project, I love renting stuff.
A little over $9,000 just for the GR2120 without a bagger, or anything else just the 54" mower and the lawn tractor. Pretty steep price for a riding lawnmower...You really pay for that orange paint.
William Todd keep in mind you're talking about a machine with a liquid cooled diesel engine, hydraulic deck lift, full-time 4 wheel drive, and possibly power steering. You're getting alot of "bells and whistles" for the money. Not to mention a machine that's more solidly built than a run-of-the-mill big-box store riding mower that's probably going to outlast several of them.
Both rear tires are driven until the steering is turned enough to release the axle clutch on the inside tire. If you don't turn much both tires get power. I notice this sometimes when plowing snow, if I turn too much into the bank I can feel the traction difference when the clutch releases.
Probably 15000 and a zero turn is 3000 The average homeowner is would last 50 years but after 10 you can't get parts so it's just for people with more money than brains
@@kevinroberts8441 It's under 10k new, and also it is NOT for the "average homeowner" as is stated in the video. It's the closest thing to an old style "garden tractor" that fell out of favor 30 some years ago. It can be mounted with a snowblower, drive-shaft driven, not belt, and be used year round. Also the diesel means it has a ton of torque, which makes the the snowblower better than even 6k stand alone units (All wheel drive means it doesn't even need chains on the tires in winter, which most Sub Compacts are rear, and their age tires can't get traction). This mower is designed for people who want things a zero turn can't do. It's great for an orchard owner keeping paths clear to weave between trees, or go up a vineyard. I've cut paths through grass over 4ft tall, that no gas mower would ever be able to do without choking out after 2 seconds of trying. The snow blower also clears my driveway, the road and the neighbors drive way in no time flat. It's designed for people who have a more rural lifestyle, and it's rather popular in Canada. Also this is a Kubota, NOT a John deer, so it's very easy to find parts for it "after 10 years".... A Deere on the other hand, is the only company that offers a comparable diesel mower, but theirs is about 15k, and again, they will probably stop supporting it by the time you drive if off the lot. "The average homeowner" probably doesn't even a need a zero turn, they can just get away with a push mower. Or save gas and money and just get a non-mechanical push mower. Sticking money into grass is a pointless waste of money anyway, all it does it take and it returns nothing of value.
Can't agree with you on the electric clutch point, I had many lawn and garden tractor mowers with these going back to early 1980's and never had to service or replace any of them.The only time one wouldn't work is when battery was all but dead.
Messick Farm Equipment must be Kubotas,while i own both compact Kubotas and JDs in tractors, mowing equipment i owned over the years were JDs,Scags,Toros,Ferris,and even a Cub Cadet maybe just lucky.
@@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe6724 Messick's sells more than just Kubotas you can see all the brands they carry on the intro. Also it sounds like you have swapped out at least 6 different mower brands over 30 years, who knows how many models. Must be nice to have that kind of money. Seems to me like you have never kept one long enough to actually have problems, run them a few hundred hours and swap. Unless you got an absolute lemon you are not really running the machines long enough to run into wear issues when they get up there in horus. It's like the guys who buy a new car every 30k, have no idea what reliability issues their are, because they are someone else problem down the road.
Hi Neil, I just bought a used GR2000G from Messicks no one mentioned the issues this model is known for so now I'm wondering if I have the problems you talked about with this earlier model is there a bearing fix still available and if so about how much will it cost me to get it reparied? NOTE: I'm hoping it holds up - I really like Messicks and my family has been doing business with them for 30+ years. Thanks in advance. EDR - You have my number in your system and can give me a call if you want to.
@@MessicksEquip Thank you, Yeah I talked to Kevin I was getting all new fluids and filters for the mower plus a bunch of other stuff so I asked him what he thought. Thanks, Neil
Still the most relevant GR series review on youtube. To state the obvious - with this you're getting a great turning radius (not zero turn - but pretty close) with the added ability to haul heavier things (spreaders, sprayers, rollers, etc) and a much more robust towing limit than that of a typical Zero turn (I think the commercial zero-turn JD's can town 400 lbs) For me - in a commercial lawn care/maintenance application/business, this gets it done as opposed to a 'commercial' zero turn.
Best tractor overview I've seen. You actually took the time to operate the machine and you clearly know the inner workings of it very well. Thank you.
Wow a salesperson that actually knows his product . very well delivered video .
I’m glad diesels are back. My Kubota g4200 is about 35 years old. One of my favorite things about it is the engine uses a very little amount of diesel.
Just went from a toro zero turn to the gr2120 last week. Performance and stability difference is night and day, I love it.
I bought one of these mowers in 2007, brand new and paid cash for it. I love that Diesel engine! Absolutely beautiful!
BUT.... The Kubota just introduced the glide steer system on this mower. Everyone had issues with the cables that disengages the rear wheels. As of 2020, I have replaced 12 cables because they kept breaking. I understand this problem is now fixed. I have 427 hours on it now. Other than the cables issues, no problems whatsoever! I’m a true blue Kubota man. But I learned one thing on this particular purchase. You cannot count on Kubota helping you, even when Kubota admits to it being their mistake. They will be happy to sell me the new glide steer kit to fix mine for $320.00! Really nice since I paid over 8,000.00 for the mower and countless dollars and many many hours working on this system!!! They refused to talk with me early on and I don’t know why???
So, this is a fabulous mower. I love it folks. Hopefully you will not have issues like I did. They do have the glide steer repaired now. I suppose it is corrected. By the way, I was in and out of the hospital with a major surgery for over 4 years when I bought it and had this problem. My wife hates Kubota. Because she had to try and cut our yard while I slept 20 hours average a day. No wonder she’s upset with them. So good luck with your purchase. I believe this dealer is very good. But don’t count on Kubota reaching out to help you. Other than that it’s a fantastic mower! God bless.
Wesley Kicker is
You're not the first to report this experience with Kubota. I have heard this same kind of report from other customers about Kubota when it comes to warranty claims they don't want to pay.
I have a GR-2100 and the dealer told me I can't put the upgraded glidesteer system on?
Those tractors are awesome!!! I started my landscape company with one of these in high school and I still buy them for snow plowing. We do commercial snow and these are great for doing sidewalks and they are a lot cheaper then the bigger tractors.
Own a G1800 with 3'229 hours. Bought with 3'222. Injectors were rebuilt previously, blades were sharpened and maintenance was pretty well kept and it's absolutely awesome. Love the 3 cylinder diesel and the G series is definitely very well built.
Definitely like seeing how they have evolved since then.
Also note, mine was not a 4 wheel steering and I also got a service/workshop manual as well so I hope to get years and years of dependable orange goodness.
First of all - love this machine especially for the sloped regions of our property that need to be mowed.
I will vouch for the gas version of this machine, the GR2020. Even in the coldest -20C winter days , with the unit stored outside, the mower starts easily with minimal, if any, choke. The PTO 48" snowblower attachment with joy stick controls is really easy to use and clears our 400m driveway in 2 passes.
Neil I think this is the best and most informative video you have ever made.
This was a great demo, thank you for the effort put in.
I have a gr2010 I purchased new in 2010 that has 967 hour and still going strong ...only thing I've had to replace are glide cables and blades...all around a great lawn mower
very good demo. I'd like to see more on this tractor
Kubota has always been way ahead of everyone else. I will be upgrading to this very soon. My dad has had a Kubota backhoe since 1981. Yep it still runs. 3 cylinder Diesel.
Really nice machine. If I hadn't just bought a garden tractor, I'd be looking into one of these. Great review, too!
I have the GR2120 and absolutely love it. It is a very strong and capable work horse that has truly earned it's place among my arsenal of machinery on my farm.
I think that the Glide Steer feature is underrated. It performs magnificently and the GR2120 is an an absolute delight to drive. Almost went with a Deere but at the time, the comparable Deere model was gas powered an $1300 more than the GR2120. We made the right choice. I would have been happy with the Deere. I am elated with the Kubota.
Now those are awesome lawn tractors!!!! Power steering shaft drive deck and 4wd and diesel power!!!! Gotta love it!!! I'm sure they are more expensive than many others but they sure look awesome!!! And if money is no object... I would definitely buy one!! This thing looks like you could use it a lifetime and pass it down to your son and grandson !!! Surely this is the absolute best you can buy!!!
Tractors yes...but the decks.....garbage. There's something about the way they're made, they don't have enough lift. And the cut is not a finish cut. I have the 54" deck and it leaves a strip of grass right in the middle of the cut.
Bought one today. My dad bought one in 2006, still runs like a top.
I loved my 2110 when it came to hills. I did have transmission problems and glidesteer cable breakage. I realize that the glidesteer cables have now been replaced by rods. The only concern I believe still exists is the blade tip speed. It's just a little slow as compared to quality ZTs. I ended up trading mine in on a BX 2370.
that lift is like the Ingersoll garden and subcompact tractors.
We have a Gr2120 Kubota mower. We also have a John Deere 345 mower. The Kubota will mow circles around the Deere,, and that is saying something. The Deere is a really good mower. The Kubota is an exceptional mower. The blades are thicker and made of harder material and this Kubota mower really throws the grass. Definitely worth a look people. Gary Fox, Iowa.
Well said Gary.
Ok...after seeing this video, i went out and changed my intended purchase from a Gravely to a Kubota GR2120 lawn tractor. My lawn is absolutely great looking now.👍
Should have gotten a Simplicity.
Martin Rademakers, if you were looking at garden tractors,
The Gravely professional G series garden tractors as well built as any brand past or present. While not 4wd the engine is direct coupled to the transmission of which all the weight is over the rear axle. I guarantee it will take 4wd to be able to out pull it. Mine is 31 years old, 12hp kohler. The tractor alone is 898lbs, 50” mower 200lbs and unlike most all new mowers I never have to run wot to get a good cut. Just saying you wouldn’t have hurt yourself with the Gravely. No doubt the Kubota should serve you well!
@@kennethsmith7002 Really, which model. I've had 2 Broadmoors. The first caught fire twice. The 2nd has been a maint nightmare with the B&S engine. I am in love with the cut quality and stripping! I am looking for a new machine now and never want another B&S engine! I have 2.25 acres of lawn with hills that kill ZT mowers. I tow aerators and spreaders. I don't know if I can do a 3rd Broadmoor.
How much for this model?
@@lcee6592 They don't make those anymore. Haven't since 2001.
Great tractors! Reminds me a lot of my cub cadet gt 2544 mainly the gr2020. If the grs were 2wd and had a cast iron transmission housing they would be identical machines.
Great video , imo go for a bx model & call it good , equip it how you want it, plenty of power & implements to choose from.
Great overview.
The only reason honestly I subbed is you guys do have good informative Vids,and I would have likely not even have heard of your name if not from OneLonelyFarmer.
wow I didn't know that was an option for tractors like this I thought if you wanted something like this from a tractor you had to go strictly for a zero turn. I like what I see thank you
a tip: watch series at Flixzone. I've been using them for watching lots of of movies recently.
@Karsyn Anders Definitely, been using flixzone for years myself :D
Also selling point is that zero turns as rough on small lawns. You will have way less turf damage with this then a zero turn.
JCLawn51 - inexperienced operators damage turf with zero turns. You don’t have to, though.
I really really like that one I have a BX23S
If these were available with a baby loader bucket I probably would have opted for one instead of the BX just because it would be easier to maneuver inside our horse stalls. But, the BX does fine.
Yeah I got a problem with my 2005 2100! After my wife tried it out, I never got to ride it any more;-( When we first got it, I backed it down the slope behind the leach field on wet grass. It didn't even think of spinning a wheel. (turf tires) Turns tight! Hey Neil, you forgot to tell the folks about the K1254-95211 kit Messicks sells to solve the bearing problem. I have never owned or leased vehicles or equipment with as a high of a level of support and parts availability as I get from Kubota and Messicks. hands down!
What bearing problem?
@@rockiemountin7535 No Problem. I swear by changing UDT 2x every season.(it's only about a gallon in that transaxle) Mine, oops sorry, My Wifes 2100 (early models only) still has bushings. The K1254-95211 bushings to bearings kit still available. Oil is always cheaper than parts. It runs another season, on it's original bushings! Great comment, good point! no problem.
@@cordialcortex3841 excuse my ignorance Bill but I really didn’t know there was a bearing problem I’m just looking into one of these tractors now, so did they change the newer model from bushings to bearings?
@@rockiemountin7535 Not at all, it is a valid question. Yes they did change to bearings but we never had a problem with the bushings (only found on the earliest models). Kubota offers a kit to change to bearings if needed. The GR2000 is the first gasoline model. GR2100 is the first diesel model made. The second two digits change for the newer models eg GR2010 and GR2110. etc. I think they are up to 2020 and 2120 by now. With frequent oil, fluid and filter changes our 2005 model year GR2100 diesel has never needed anything more than a Glide Steer cable. I changed the blades last year (first time) because they were too thin to sharpen any more. I replaced the Kubota battery in it (only 1 battery in 16 years) Nothing else, not a belt, hose, tire, has ever been changed. No carbeuretor or ignition problems with the diesel. The diesel sips fuel. It is amazing the amount of work we get out of it for what fuel we put in. It is easy to grease it shown by pictures in manual. Talk about a “turn key” operation, turn the key and mow:-) Kubota offers a snow blower for the GR series. It is All Wheel Drive after all!
@@cordialcortex3841 thank you Bill I’m going to see if I can find a good used one thanks again
Bought this mower last year. I have sloped elements in my lawn and this tractor with 4 wheel drive just performs very well. Zero turns are nice, but without 4 wheel drive, they’re just not an option for me.
Same here can I ask what you paid for it
@@rockiemountin7535 $8,900 pre tax
@@rdbjr52 👍thank you
@@rdbjr52 would you buy it again?
@@rockiemountin7535 yes, definitely. The only other machine I would consider is the kubota front cut machine. I forget the model number, but the cost is prohibitive… like $35,000/$40,000!!! If you have sloping terrain, 4 wheel drive is the way to go.
Love this tractor, but do you have an idea on how much it can tow?
Great video! Could you possibly show one in action mowing sometime?
My GR2120 has been a source of headaches ever since I bought it, with every spring bringing more. I bought it because it's a tiny bit lower in the seat than the Deeres, and for a 4x4 or AWD garden tractor, they are the only game in town. I've had the Gr2120 for five years now, and it's got 450 hours on it, so it's not used heavily. It replaced a 35 year old Wheelhorse that had fewer problems in its first 20 years than this has in its first 5.
The STUPID design of modern lawn and garden tractors with high seats, makes it very difficult to cut under a semi-dwarf orchard, and the Kubota is, as mentioned a little lower than the Deeres. Still, it's high enough to make it an adventure to cut in the orchard, and I frequently bang my head on limbs. The Wheelhorse was much lower, but didn't have power steering or the tight turning radius that the GR does, so that, plus the AWD is a plus for the GR. The Wheelhorse had a ground-riding deck, while the GR has a hanging one, so the GR can't compare in terms of cut quality. Hanging decks just don't cut as nicely as decks that sit on the ground. My RFM on the bigger tractor even cuts smoother, and the RFM, of course, runs on the ground. I had problems with the GR deck gearbox, which required taking it to the dealer for repairs. Continuing problems with the driveshafts coming off and being every difficult to put back on are another headache. The diesel engine is great, but I think if I had it to do over again, I would buy an el cheapo lawn tractor at a big box store, and just throw it out an buy another when it broke down. I could buy about four or five of them for what the GR cost.
Thanks for your insights, I learned a lot.
I see what appears to be the old style tie rod ends on these tractors. Are they interchangeable with the BX so that you can just buy the boots instead of being forced to buy the entire tie rod end product from Kubota?
Neal,, any new videos on fr séries and if Kubota improved transaxle issues from past, love watching your videós from east tn ,, I own a bx25d and love it ( a great shovel and wheel barrow in one ) 😀
Should we choose the 48 or 54 inch mower deck? Any pros cons other than being able to get closer to objects with the bigger deck? If I’m using this on slopes which makes the ground uneven should I get the smaller deck? It would make it easier to store in the garage.
I notice from videos of GR 2120 offered in England that dealers offer a rear discharge mower deck with a bagging system that looks sleek and ergonomic and ideal for tight spaces. This option is not offered by North America dealers it seems. I’m curious if anyone (maybe Neil) knows why? It seems so much more useful than the bagging system that hangs off the side discharge. Maybe the accessory is manufactured in Europe?
Not a very cheap lawn tractor by any means, but if you have a wildly landscaped hill you have to mow you are better off paying more and buying a lawn tractor with 4WD/AWD capability. The only thing is for the price they should have a rear lift hitch for small gardening attachments like a tiller, plow, etc. Why isn't those available? It would be a great selling point for many who don't need a big cumbersome utility tractor in their garden, but want the ease of being able to roto-till, plow, etc. in their garden. These smaller garden tractors are a perfect size for that, and with the AWD/4WD they've got the power and traction to handle those jobs.
Because the tractor industry forces you into another class of equipment so they can make a lot more money. They did this same thing with front mount mowers. Instead of giving you the capability on the front of a compact tractor like Europe does the tractor OEMs force you to purchase a turf tractor instead. It's all a game to bleed your wallet.
Want one!!!!!!!
Hey Neil! I have a question, what brand hydrostatic pumps do these GRs use? Also what is the torque rating on the pump it self?
I have the g1900 its a great mower that mower cen do a lot i think kabota needs to look at thir mucholder models and go after that
My work place just got these in for the site. I use them heavily for transport aswell as grass cutting so out of curiosity how fast does this shift? We previously used John deer 740x and the speed on that was ideal compared to say a John deer 450x
The wheels should be orange, also would be nice to have lights on the rear or at least reflectors.
So cute
Hi, I'm looking at buying a 2008 gr2100-II. Hadn't heard of the issues until watching this video. Do you know if this model would still suffer from this problem? Thx
Hi and thanks for the great video , I have an opportunity to by a used GR2010 with 585 hours on it and really keyed in to your comments about the transmission bushings vs bearings . How do I know what the cutoff year is for that issue ? Thanks again
2010 has bearings
Thanks so much for the speedy reply, he says the steering cables have been replaced
The pics look like a brand new machine
The lawn I mow has some wet areas that get my sears garden tractors stuck in the mud , I'm thinking this would be a good replacement machine
Thanks again
Thanks so much for the speedy reply, he says the steering cables have been replaced
The pics look like a brand new machine
The lawn I mow has some wet areas that get my sears garden tractors stuck in the mud , I'm thinking this would be a good replacement machine
Thanks again
What's the price tag on those diesel riding lawn mower
Kinda wish they didn't call it a garden tractor when it can't do any garden work. Its really a glorified lawn tractor with a slightly upgraded transmission. An actual heavy duty garden tractor is built just as strong as a scut. Even light duty GT's will do moldboard plowing and tilling.
+Garden Tractors agreed. No one really makes an old school garden Tractor any more
I mean don't get me wrong I love the new comfort features and stuff but they aren't the same as the old school stuff. Both of my John Deere 332 diesel garden tractors have over 3,000 hours on them I still do work with both of them the lower hour one of the pair runs no different than it would have new the higher hour one of the pair is just starting to show signs of wear. Both my 332's are classified as a kind of in between Heavy Duty Garden Tractor and the Super Garden Tractor categories. Its capability are very similar to the Kubota BX and the John Deere 1R series tractors. If I were to recommend someone the newer equivalent of a old school garden tractor it would be a SCUT as they are the closest thing available to what the older GT's could do.
I also will say in any tractor above say a entry level LT a diesel engine is the best thing since sliced bread can't beat it.
I'm not a JD fan and may be mistaken but the newer JD X7** or even the X5** series are said to be really close to the old school GT capabilities and being offered with sleeve or 3pt hitch options, heck even Cub Cadet is now offering a sleeve hitch for their XT3 series for ground engaging work. That is handy for a homeowner who just wants to do a little tilling/disc cultivating/plowing for a small backyard garden, flower beds, etc. It would seem that Kubota would want to follow suit with this model especially when offering it with a diesel engine. Just saying.
+Rude Dawg your right, the issue us though that those machines add up to the price of a vastly more capable BX1880 when fitted with the hitch kits. If kubota had rear hitch kits for the GR, no one would buy them.
Bravo
Hi. A fan of yours from the UK. When you say half a gallon fuel consumption, us gallons so about 2 litres an hour? Is that for the diesel as well?
I know this is a old vid it’s ok if you don’t see this but I have a JD X739 so how do these stack up THANKS GUYS GOD BLESS
I have slopes so have been worried about going to zero turn. Also desire a Diesel engine as have that now on farm. Issue I have with garden tractor mowers is seems they don't have blade tip speed of zero turns, 18,500, making mowing slower. What is blade speed on these mowers? I have 60" deck now, Kubota offer that on a garden tractor with 18,500 blade speed?
Jim Sullivan Blade speed isn't a factor as much as lift the deck produces. Most decks are 17,000 to 19,000. The wheel width is the most important factor for hills. The bx is super tippy where my kubota zd 326 zerp turn is nearly impossible to flip on a side hill, but the 4wd will give you more control. If you got the money the f series kubota's would be the way to go for the best of both worlds.
what drives the mower?, belt or shaft.?? also is there a 2 stage snowblower available for this mower??
Shaft, and yes.. there is a nice 2-stage blower.
my Gr2110 starts and goes forward and reverse but does not turn? any idea what the issue is?
I know this is an old video, but how did/do these stack up to the JD X700 line? I have the X758, diesel, 60" auto connect, 4wd. Just curious.
Its not nearly that much tractor, but at 30% less money too. We're generally going up against that model with a real subcompact
What is the ground speed on this?
I have a CycloneRake with an 8" hose that attaches to an adapter to the discharge chute on my TG1860. Is there a similar adapter for this 54" deck, or will I be able to use the one that fits my TG1860?
We usually either use a Kubota boot, or get one from trac vac.
It seems that all riding mowers are for grass. Are there any out there that can cut weeds that are 2 ft tall and almost an inch thick? Having a fully enclosed deck just pushes down the weeds such that the blades can't cut them.
No, that's rotary cutter territory
Neal, can you give us update on new improvements on gr2120 ?
Nothing new. When they change it, it'll get a new model number.
@@MessicksEquip THANK YOU 😀
If you need to heat it with glow plugs and it’s a new engine then there is a problem there. Unless it’s like 10 degrees outside or below zero. Otherwise you shouldint even need the plugs especially on such a compact engine that should have more then enough compression
Was the gr2010 one of the models with the goofy transmission bushings?
changed to bearings in that model. Not perfect, but not a time bomb like the -00 model.
Messick's : Do you know what year they switched from the bushing to the bearing in the transmission? I found a deal on a 2009 GR 2110 with under 100 hrs on it and i'm super interested as long as this isn't one of the more problematic years.
You can tell if it has the updated case. The two mounting bolts to the frame on each side are closer together with a rib between them on the newer case. The older case has a case bolt in between the two mounting bolts.
Neil said it was 2010.
My Cub Cadet XT1 has a 16" turning radius. What is the turning radius of this Kubota?
The new turn tight craftsman series has a 5" radius. Works slick
How is the 4 wheel drive driven on the front of the tractor
Shaft
I am torn between a BX and the GR... I would assume the resale value is superior for the BX. I dont need all the attachments but if its marginally more expensive for the BX and a much higher resale/trade in value coupled with the potential that i could add attachments if my needs change - Would you say I should just go with the BX? Thanks & Love the Messick's CZcams Channel.
I very much would encourage the BX
I chose the BX w/loader, I am not getting any younger and the ease of attaching/deattaching the loader was the closer.
Neal not even 90 seconds in and the state PD show up
Would it be OK to use the BAR style tires on this model? I have a steep area to mow.
Yes
From experience, atv tire grip more while being more friendly to the grass than r2
I really like this machine. What attachments are made for this?
Blade and blower
@@MessicksEquip seems like it could handle so much more. Thanks for the reply.
What year did they fix the transmission issues? I have a 2009
-00 series are the problematic ones.
So what's the difference with this 21hp diesel and the bx1880's 18hp diesel? Seems odd it has more hp.
They replied to an older comment with this answer. A few years back some companies got sued because they were inflating their HP. In response several Japanese engine makers (Kubota and Kawasaki from what I know) preemptively gave their engines a more conservative HP rating to avoid any legal trouble (so no one could claim false advertising). So when this model came out, they rated it at 21hp, after the change it is at 17hp according to their web site. The engine hasn't change any, it's just a legal issue. It's the same thing with a Kawasaki, many of the mower style 2 cylinders are rated at 18.5 now, HOWEVER, they can run circles around a brigs and stratt that claims 21hp. Basically they are picking the low end of their numbers so they don't get in trouble, while someone like Briggs and Stratt is just full of themselves and hasn't bothered dialing their numbers back.
The D782 engine in the GR2120 has 17hp
@@ghostgreywolf1850 Thanks for that good information. I noticed the same discrepancy between the current web specs and what was presented in this video. Also, my older and slightly smaller diesel TG1860 advertised 18 HP, so I was somewhat confused.
Heh, phenonemal
How much?
I love my John Deere x729 4 wheel steer better just because it had a beefier rear end that can support weights for the front mounted snowblower and it can do the same thing as this gr series kubota
also has an MSRP over $11,000. A full $2500 more money than the Kubota, and in the price range of a BX1880 sub compact tractor.
Messick's The current brochures rate the GR2120 as 17hp. Has the engine been derated or is this information incorrect? Interested in this mower, but after I saw the new hp rating I’m not so sure.
@@themccains3185 same engine. they moved to a more conservative standard for rating engine HP. A few years ago several gas engine manufacturers where sued for over stating, they are likely being proactive. Other companies have not made this change.
@Yamaha Venture an x758 is much more tractor than this, but at a much higher price point. It's like comparing an F150 to an F350. In Kubota land if you wanted that kind of machine we'd be looking at a BX-series. Value for your money there is fantastic compared to a high-end garden tractor. Even in Deere's line what you get from a 1023E is much greater than their x7-series. Other than 'luxury lawn mowing', I kinda fail to see the point of that product line.
Have a customer asking if a T2290KW-42 mower could occasionally tow 800 pounds up a 20 degree slope. I know off the wall random type question, but wondering if anyone has some perspective on this. We tend to deal more with B-series tractors and up at my shop with Kubota products so a little unfamiliar and don't usually associate mower with towing so much
No way.
@@MessicksEquip Yeah I’m not sure what to tell the guy besides maybe jumping up to a GR, but even then very unrealistic expectations for a riding mower
Does kubot a have a fer t spreader for this tractor....love the diesel
Kubota probably doesn't but many implement makers offer pull behind spreaders that will work with any lawn or garden tractor. I have a drop spreader/spike aerator that works great, and I cannot say who made it for sure, I think its a Brinkley man that thing is built heavy, but works extremely well and my Cub-Cadet XT1 18HP lawn tractor pulls it just fine.
I would just love to get on of these as I perfer the lawn tracktors over a zero turn. but my land just to small for it. If you get on you find that these lawn tractors are well worth it for what they can do for you. In Ausreaila these lawn tracktors can seem a bit exspenive to matain. I ould go though a batery at $97.00 each ever one to two years. blades change about once a year They go from $25 stanard to $50 for a mulching set. Depening on what you can aford a Kubota GR series tractor sells in Austrasil for around about $11,500.00 They come with a 54 inch deck I have a 2018 Rover Rancher 547/38 that selled for $3700.00 and though it dos not cut as wide it has the same turning radi but though it only has a 38 inch deck though it 16 inch less but it still gets the job done. quilt well All blades on these garden tractors are usuly the same size my Rover Rancher 547/38 has two blades the Kubota GR series tractor has three blades. You will go though drive and blaid belts but on these they will usuly last for years they usuly cost around $38.00 each I have a five letre petrol tank that last for two hours.
Can a roll bar, ROPs and seatbelt be attached to this mower?
No, if you want one a BX1880 would be a much better choice.
can you get the gr series tractor with a clam shell bagger? thanks for the video
No clamshell
ok thanks is their a bag unit then for it?
Yes
price?
I have been watching a lot of your videos and have done a ton of due diligence and hope you can clear up some confusion I have concerning this GR 2120. Kubota USA site shows it as a 17hp ( gas maybe), and the 21hp, as you stated, is the diesel. Correct? ( I have called dealers in my area and all are either unsure or have to ask someone else. This includes both sales and service department personnel. Secondly, the problems you have alluded to in prior units have supposedly been corrected and this series is new and improved and there are a couple of videos that say Not True. I am retired and cannot afford to throw good money after bad if this is not a good unit and will not serve my purpose which is primarily snow blowing up a steep incline. In one video you said a bx1880 would be troublesome blowing snow and one would need more HP, which I believe this 2120 has. Correct? So my question is simply, if I buy this machine will it serve my purpose and be a reliable entity and mostly trouble free in the future knowing I take proper care of maintenance on all my vehicles and assorted machines? Thank you for your anticipated reply and for making such informative and excellent videos.
The HP difference is only a change in reporting standards, nothing changed on the tractor itself. Like any product the GR is not perfect, but the frequency of trouble if a fraction of what it was on the prior models. Personally, I'd buy a BX and just drive slower in the snow if needed.
@@MessicksEquip I do not follow your "only a change in reporting standards, nothing changed on the tractor itself" comment. If an auto manufacturer reports hp of 300 it had better be 300, not 250 hp, same as them reporting mpg of 34, when the cars were actually getting 24 mpg, so there is a difference. I have had a KB sales manager raise his voice to me when I questioned his telling me the 2120 only had 17hp vs 21hp. It's a simple question I am asking...which Hp is correct? At 6:53 of this video you say it is a 21hp. Sales people in my area also report 21hp, some service dept. people say it is 17hp , others say 21hp, which leads me to ask myself ..do they even know what they are servicing/selling? No one in any dealership I have called can tell me what cc it is and we all know cc is torque which drives the machine and therefore the snowblower. A simple question for a simple answer, what is the hp and cc of a GR 2120 machine?
@@andysear15 There has been no official communication on this from Kubota, I'm reading between the lines. 4-5 years ago Briggs and Kohler were sued for overstating engine HP. Diesel engines did not get wrapped up in that. Kubota's legal dept is wildly conservative. I believe whats happening here is that they are positioning themselves that if this lawsuit makes it to diesel engines they are already compliant. Thus why we're seeing this change on paper. They are adopting a higher standard of testing than what was used years ago. Regardless of the number, the machine does not lack for power :-)
@@MessicksEquip Now THAT's an answer I can live with and I thank you for it. I take it then that I will have no problem moving snow up an incline, and I am good with that. The BX was too much of a machine for me and my circumstances, no matter what speed I used it in. I believe the 2120 fits my needs and will now go and purchase one. Good job Neil.
i am driving on a about 25-30 degree sloap and my toro is amazing on that and is much faster and better turning on that than my lawn tractor was
why don't any of the manufacturers make pto driven tilling equipment for garden tractors anymore? they all offered tillers years ago. Asking because my primary need is for a tiller not a mower and don't really need to go up to the sub compact range.
They don’t make the equipment because the tractors to run them are not made any more. Modern garden tractors don’t have pto drives.
However, John deer, brinley? and husqvarna offer belt driven slave hitch mounted tillers in 30-36 inches. Tow behind self powered ATV type tillers are also available, they are popular with people planting food plots in wooded areas. All ranging in price from $1500- $3000, none as effective as a 3 point 54 inch tiller on a 40 hp tractor.
@@jaxturner7288 I am absolutely not interested in the self powered tillers I have used them in the past and felt them to be to light and lacking in quality. Not to mention I simply don't want yet another engine to maintain for only two or three uses a year. So looks like I'll be on the look out for a used JD hydraulic tiller and suitable tractor. Thanks for the response.
Harry Rembe I’ve never owned one but a few people I know have and they never had anything good to say about them. Constantly breaking sheer pins and burning up bearings from just twisting vines and long grass around the shafts is what I remember. Renting a BX and a 48” tiller couple times a year is always an option. When I have a really dirty or equipment abuse heavy project, I love renting stuff.
Does this model come with rear grass catcher?
+hf davis optional, yes
Messick Farm Equipment what's the largest mowing deck that comes with this tractor?
+Detroit Diesel 54"
Needs attachments
It's probably 10,000.00 for a lawn mower that's kinda pricey
$8-$9. Thats the going price for a high end lawn mower like this. Hydraulic clutches, diesel engines, etc comes with a price.
Should liquid be added to the rear tires for additional traction for steep hills?
Does a 2013 model GR 2120 have the bearing transmission problems?
No
This is why I buy parts from these guys, they are extremely helpful!!! Thank you from NH!!
Yes it still has the transmission problems
is this actually produced by Kubota or is it made by MTD?
produced by Kubota at KMA in Georgia
what's the price tag on something like this
A little over $9,000 just for the GR2120 without a bagger, or anything else just the 54" mower and the lawn tractor. Pretty steep price for a riding lawnmower...You really pay for that orange paint.
9,000 to 15,190
William Todd keep in mind you're talking about a machine with a liquid cooled diesel engine, hydraulic deck lift, full-time 4 wheel drive, and possibly power steering. You're getting alot of "bells and whistles" for the money. Not to mention a machine that's more solidly built than a run-of-the-mill big-box store riding mower that's probably going to outlast several of them.
can you lock the rear diff?
+William Harden not on this model.
Both rear tires are driven until the steering is turned enough to release the axle clutch on the inside tire. If you don't turn much both tires get power. I notice this sometimes when plowing snow, if I turn too much into the bank I can feel the traction difference when the clutch releases.
What's the price on one of these pieces?
Probably 15000 and a zero turn is 3000
The average homeowner is would last 50 years but after 10 you can't get parts so it's just for people with more money than brains
@@kevinroberts8441 It's under 10k new, and also it is NOT for the "average homeowner" as is stated in the video. It's the closest thing to an old style "garden tractor" that fell out of favor 30 some years ago. It can be mounted with a snowblower, drive-shaft driven, not belt, and be used year round. Also the diesel means it has a ton of torque, which makes the the snowblower better than even 6k stand alone units (All wheel drive means it doesn't even need chains on the tires in winter, which most Sub Compacts are rear, and their age tires can't get traction). This mower is designed for people who want things a zero turn can't do. It's great for an orchard owner keeping paths clear to weave between trees, or go up a vineyard. I've cut paths through grass over 4ft tall, that no gas mower would ever be able to do without choking out after 2 seconds of trying. The snow blower also clears my driveway, the road and the neighbors drive way in no time flat. It's designed for people who have a more rural lifestyle, and it's rather popular in Canada. Also this is a Kubota, NOT a John deer, so it's very easy to find parts for it "after 10 years"....
A Deere on the other hand, is the only company that offers a comparable diesel mower, but theirs is about 15k, and again, they will probably stop supporting it by the time you drive if off the lot.
"The average homeowner" probably doesn't even a need a zero turn, they can just get away with a push mower. Or save gas and money and just get a non-mechanical push mower. Sticking money into grass is a pointless waste of money anyway, all it does it take and it returns nothing of value.
Have hundreds of hours experience on the GR2100 series. The seat is Very Uncomfortable after a few hours.....
ya but 9 grand..umm. pricey. I guess you get what you pay for.
For that price you may as well spend the extra money and get compact tractor. Just don't see the market for something like this.
Can't agree with you on the electric clutch point, I had many lawn and garden tractor mowers with these going back to early 1980's and never had to service or replace any of them.The only time one wouldn't work is when battery was all but dead.
We're probably the single biggest equipment parts retailer on the internet... we sell a lot of PTO clutches!
Messick Farm Equipment must be Kubotas,while i own both compact Kubotas and JDs in tractors, mowing equipment i owned over the years were JDs,Scags,Toros,Ferris,and even a Cub Cadet maybe just lucky.
@@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe6724 Messick's sells more than just Kubotas you can see all the brands they carry on the intro. Also it sounds like you have swapped out at least 6 different mower brands over 30 years, who knows how many models. Must be nice to have that kind of money. Seems to me like you have never kept one long enough to actually have problems, run them a few hundred hours and swap. Unless you got an absolute lemon you are not really running the machines long enough to run into wear issues when they get up there in horus. It's like the guys who buy a new car every 30k, have no idea what reliability issues their are, because they are someone else problem down the road.
Hi Neil, I just bought a used GR2000G from Messicks no one mentioned the issues this model is known for so now I'm wondering if I have the problems you talked about with this earlier model is there a bearing fix still available and if so about how much will it cost me to get it reparied? NOTE: I'm hoping it holds up - I really like Messicks and my family has been doing business with them for 30+ years. Thanks in advance. EDR - You have my number in your system and can give me a call if you want to.
Sounds like you talked to Kevin. No worries. We know what to look for and will back you up.
@@MessicksEquip Thank you, Yeah I talked to Kevin I was getting all new fluids and filters for the mower plus a bunch of other stuff so I asked him what he thought. Thanks, Neil
Looking for an updated video.
Nothing has changed
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