TORTORELLA’S BIZARRE DECISION SENDS RED WINGS HOME AND CAPITALS TO THE PLAYOFFS!
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- čas přidán 16. 04. 2024
- From the fiasco in Philadelphia to the Maple Leafs facing the Bruins in the first round of the playoffs, Tuesday night was an eventful one for the playoff picture in the NHL. 7-Eleven That's Hockey's Gino Reda recaps the incredible storylines.
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Flyers needed a regulation win. Torts found out Detroit was going to OT (or at least tied it) after he already pulled the goalie. An OT win was useless for the Flyers, where's the confusion and where's the fiasco?
Flyers were already eliminated, Detroit tied the game with 3.3 seconds left to keep their season alive then it ended with an empty net goal in a tie game. If only someone told Tortorella sooner he wouldn't have pulled the goalie.
@danb239 and then what? He helps the penguins? Who cares he coaches the flyers. He's trying to win. Trying to go to the playoffs. Not trying to help the pens
@@tyefinley8369 pulling the goalie isn't trying to win, it's greatly increasing the chance you lose for a small chance to win in regulation. Who cares about it helping the Penguins, it did help the Capitals they just handed them a playoff spot
There is no fiasco. This has been invented by Canadian hockey media.
I agree with these comments, people are making it to be worse than it is, why would the flyers want to help their rivals of the penguins, this is the best outcome, either flyers win or penguins dont
As a NYR die hard, Torts is the gift that keeps on giving, seeing him mad...in PHILLY...*chef kiss* 😘
flyers were desperate to try and win in regulation torts had no idea that detroit had tied their game. if he knew that the wings had tied the game he would not have pulled the goalie. gotta remember when you're on the bench you don't have the ability to know whats going on in other games.
Torts has no obligation to other teams. His mandate is to do all he can for Philly. They needed to win in regulation
That is untrue.... there are out of town scoreboards in most arenas LOL.. AND they have assistant coahces etc who tell them all kinds of stuff. Smarten up
what tf are you talking about tort himself said he found out right after the empty net. He was still on the bench. They had to win in regulation anyways, but he is a spiteful coach lol
And the blown call by the ref that blew his whistle too early on that goal. Caps got a gift wrapped game yesterday.
Lindgren’s save percentage says otherwise
Technically the Wings eliminated the Flyers. So Torts eliminated the Wings by having the Caps win. Makes perfect logical sense to me.
Looks like Tortorella's decision had Red Wings feeling more like flightless birds!
Nothing bizarre in trying to win a hockey game
Pulling your goalie with the game tied isn't trying to win a hockey game, it's trying to win in regulation and they didn't need to because they were already eliminated
@@danb239 Well assuming that coach and players knew about elimination
The job of a coach is to with hockey games. In game 1 but also in game 82 of season .
@@goenzoy712 If they knew they were eliminated and just trying to win they wouldn't have pulled the goalie. Pulling your goalie in a tie game doesn't increase your chances of winning the game it is quite the opposite lol
@@danb239 I agree that I does not increase the chances but EN is not uncommon strategy .If they used in some of the games up to 81 it is also a legitimate strategy in game 82.
Did even see Wilds pulling the goalie in OT 3 on 3 situation
@@goenzoy712 Empty net is still extremely uncommon in tie games, doing it in OT when it's 3 on 3 is different but still extremely risky, Wild only did it because they needed regulation wins apparently. Sergei Fedorov is the one who started doing it in the KHL.
This is not on Torts. He did what he thought was needed to get in. He's not big on tech; so my guess is there'd be a minute or so delay getting info to the bench. That'd suffice in this situation.
they were already out of the playoffs when we got to overtime they knew before, he lied and said he didnt know, he knew.
@@ShoOterEhce11he didn’t know because I watched both games at the same time and he pulled the goalie like 15-20 seconds before the red wings tied it
I can't imagine many teams around the league like the Wings very much. They've put together a team of mostly cocky d-bags. I don't know if that was a factor in Torts's decision making, but I sure enjoyed it.
Torts owes no explanation. dudes been pushing to win with 2nd, 3rd and 4th liners all year. outside of Konecny and Sanheim, its a bunch of misfits currently.
Pittsburgh and Detroit have nobody to blame but themselves. period.
This narrative about something improper or negligent happening in Philly is a fiction. There's no controversy here. Just really unfortunate timing for Detroit. But it's important to understand that the time when Detroit SCORED is not material here. Until regulation officially ends in Detroit, there's a non-zero chance that they could lose, and thus Philly has to continue to play to their one and only path to making the post-season by doing anything and everything they can to win in regulation. To do anything less actually *would* be a fiasco. Amazingly, the 78 seconds seconds it took between when Perron scores and when the horn sounds to end regulation in Detroit just happened to span the exact time when the final puck drop in Philly occurred. Once the game is live in Philly, nobody is going to distract Torts in the midst of active play to tell him about another game in another city. Rather, they're going to wait for the next whistle to whisper in his ear. And that's exactly what happened. But the puck was live for 62 seconds in Philly before that next whistle. And that next whistle was the whistle indicating Washington's empty-net goal. Kind of incredible.
Only thing bizarre about the video is not mentioning that flyers needed a regulation win to make the playoffs, so they pulled the goalie. How can a media company this big not be informed?
lol pay attention man.. because clearly you weren’t
@@chrisboyer5948 As a Wings fan, Philly won the game with that disallowed goal, not sure what happened there but from replays it looked legit.
Go Tigers and Lions !
I completely don't understand the NHL. How did the Caps clinch? Redwings won 41 games a GD of 4, the Caps 40 wins, GD -37.
Please explain this to me someone, PLEASE!
I believe the first tie-breaker if there is a points-tie is regulation wins. So I take it the Caps had more wins in regulation than in OT compared to the Wings?
@@zachsteward3355 Thanks, Zach. It's mind numbing. A followup would then be "why does NHL award two points for OT wins?" Maybe I'm in the minority on this one.
I don’t see why bunch of snowflakes are pissed about the flyers pulling the goalie…. Like why would the flyers help Detroit?
Grow up.
I’m a flyers fan and they fucking blew it this year. I don’t blame anyone else.
Because they're the Red Wings that's why.. it's like the Yankees in baseball or Lakers in basketball.. or any team the Chiefs of the NFL.. these franchises just make the sport better when they're in.. it seems life make sense again, ya know?..
I'm a wings fan for a long time. Only people pissed are fake news hockey fans, cry baby soy sipping types you dig
@thewizardofoz511 Dude no one outside of Detroit cares whether the Wings are in the playoffs or not. The league’s been doing great without that for, I dunno, a decade?
Why would they help Detroit? Why would they help Washington? It's the exact same thing, I'm not pissed at Tortorella it just sucks that if he found out a minute earlier he wouldn't have pulled the goalie because it wouldn't have mattered. The Wings scored with 3.3 seconds left to keep their season alive and we could have seen Washington battle for their lives vs Philadelphia but instead the Capitals got gifted an empty net goal. LAME
@@jon8004 8 years.. and I'm not a fan of the other teams I named but when they're in the playoffs.. things seem to make sense.. also Red Wings fans are all around the country.. you don't notice how many mofos are at all the away games??. It gets crazy 🤣
Red Wings fan here, but no problem with John Tortorella's decision. End of the day, he is paid to coach the Flyers and to try to gve them and their fans the best chance to win games that he can. He called it his way and yes it was a gamble, but as we all know, sometimes such gambles pay off and sometimes they do not -- this one didn't. The fact that it didn't, of course, ultimately meant that the Caps bagged both points and the Red Wings came up short (despite an almost insanely dramatic finish to their game's third period and Patrick Kane's cool shootout clincher).
Bottom line: the Caps would have eliminated the Flyers by simply taking the game to OT, and John Tortorella's job was ultmately NOT to get my Red Wings or, just possibly, the Penguins, safely into the SC playoffs promised land after Game 82. Disappointed and sad, here, naturally, but no beef at all with JT's 'goalie pull' decision against the Caps -- sometimes things just end up (dramatically!) the way they are and at the end of the day, this 'high drama' finish was certainly a HUGE win for the NHL and hockey itself, something which should keep us all smiling widely as hockey fans, no😁?!
What a nightmare for the Red Wings and Penguins. The worst team has managed to get the last playoff spot. Are you kidding me? This is unbelievable. Especially for the Penguins. Either the Red Wings or Penguins would have deserved it. And then the Capitals get a free win. This must be one of the saddest things that ever happened in the NHL because they gave the fkng Capitals a free win. In the end the worst team with the worst goal difference has made it with all that luck. Actually the Red Wings were robbed. What a disaster really. So stupid espeically from the Flyers. They played well over the whole season. And then they start losing, in 2 weeks they lost everything. And they ruined all playoff hopes in just 2 weeks. and in the end they even ruined the playoff hopes for the Red Wings just to give it free to the worst team which was in the fight for the 8th spot. How is that even possible???? The Washington Capitals will lose all 4 games for sure. You will see. They have 0 chance. tha'ts so bitter about it. The Penguins are much better than the Capitals. They would have had a chance but due to bad defense they also would have failed probably.
This is an embarrassing post. All I see is you don’t like the Caps and you’re talking shit. How are the Pens or Wings better? They finished behind them in the standings lol. The Caps didn’t get a gift wrapped game, they put themselves in a situation to take advantage. You realize the Caps didn’t push forward in the 3rd because they didn’t need to? Why would they? They were smart and capitalized. GD means absolutely nothing overall. Just move on and accept the other teams didn’t get the job done.
@@justincosing5227 you'll see in the series with the new york rangers that the Capitals should not be in the playoffs. They haver zero chance against the Rangers. It would have been another story with the Penguins. Because they are better .The Penguins have some of the best players in the league. It's amazing how they missed the playoffs. The Penguins and Red Wings have a +4 goal difference. The Capitals - 37. It's unbelievable that the Capitals made the playoffs really. They were so lucky. In the end they got a free win against the Flyers. Hockey is anyway a joke. Because all you need is a good goalie. You can have the best scorers you wont get anywhere with a bad goalie. All top teams in the eastern conference are there because of their defence. In the end it will be the Rangers or probably Carolina.
@@CosmosZeroX you really just wrote all of that with zero fucking sense. It’s honestly embarrassing how misinformed you really are. How are the Penguins better when they had a worse record? Why do you keep bringing up GD? It’s an irrelevant stat……. The Pens are not better than the Caps. The Wings are also not! They played literally two weeks ago and the Caps blanked them in Detroit. Of course the Rangers are favorites you dumbass. They’re the president trophy winners. Does that mean the Caps shouldn’t try? Bruins had the best regular season record ever last year and lost first round. Caps have beaten the Rangers this year so idk why you’re so certain they’re getting swept and even if they do they still fought and made the playoffs. You have to earn this! The Caps did and rightfully are in the playoffs. Idk why you keep saying they were gifted a win when they fucking weren’t. They put themselves in the position to have Philly pull the GK and you’re also acting like the Caps were losing. It was a tie game…… stop this bs
Leafs were finishing 3rd no matter what. Why are people bringing drama to the story and saying his pursuit of 70 was a distraction?
He needed to pull the goalie earlier. I say this as a caps fan. Was it risky absolutely, but they needed a regulation win to go through and they looked close at points. The wings can feel hard done too all they want, but they got beat by the caps twice so they can deal with that. Always next year fellas enjoy the golf club
Even if they knew they were eliminated they had a game plan and executed it as planned. Torts probably said regardless of what happens in Montreal this is what we’re going to do and did it. Nothing wrong with that.
Philly coaches obviously weren't watching an entirely different game on the bench in the midst of trying to control what they could.
Winning in regulation was the only thing that moved the needle for them, it's not like someone could beam the info Detroit had tied the game into his brain instantaneously, there was like a 40 second real time difference between that insane Detroit last second goal and the ENG
@@WildMan576 Yes and I also watched Torotorella's post game presser where he says he didn't know.
Are we going to trust the person who actually made the decision or a CZcams video speculating that they knew?
MY BIGGEST ISSUE are the tiebreaker rules: #2 should be "most wins" reg/OT included, then best GF vs GA, cause Wings are way more exciting to watch with 278GF/274GA (+4) and 41 wins, even in the OT clinch drama like playoff games! Caps fewer and worst 220GF/257GA (-37) and 40 wins only. With 8 wins in 19apps in OT Caps should beat their opponents by min 2-3goals per reg wins...young Wings studs with OT14w/23gp are better on ice and paper.
Renny went on a rant about this last night. So at 9:33PM, Flyers are eliminated. What time did Torts pull the goalie? At 9:35PM? 9:50PM? Timing is critical and it's still not clear how much time passed between these 2 events. Renny seems certain that Torts knew. Torts says he didn't know.... Hmmmmmm....
Torts is focused on the Flyers, he can’t control what’s going on in Montreal and he doesn’t get live updates sometimes it takes a minute especially when his focus is trying to win a crucial game in regulation
You have to focus on what you control you can’t constantly worry about what’s going in another city even if it dictates your season outcome
The Red Wings scored at 9:34 pm EST and the Caps scored at 9:36 pm EST. Less than 2 minutes real time. I highly doubt Philly knew they were eliminated when the goalie was pulled. I may be wrong but less than 2 minutes real time doesn't feel like enough time to know you were eliminated while you are focused on your own tie game.
Tortorella is a liar. He knew. It was payback.
Payback for what? Grow up you clown.
The two events were separayed by less than 2 minutes of real time. 9:34 pm Detroit scored and 9:36 pm the Caps scored. I highly doubt Philly knew they were eliminated when they pulled the goalie.
GO JETS GO
Why is it bizarre? Torts wanted to see if his team could do it regardless. I don’t think he cares about Detroit or Pitt’s feelings
Nothing bizarre about trying to keep your playoff hopes alive. He wasn’t watching the red wings game in the iPad 🤦♂️
This is utter nonsense. Flyers needed to win in regulation. They could not win in overtime or a shootout and earn the final spot. Tortorella already said in his postgame presser that the bench had not been told that Detroit tied Montreal (thus eliminating the Flyers) until after Washington scored the empty netter. So his decision is not bizarre, and it wasn’t a fiasco.
if you must win in regulation to go to the playoffs...... perfectly logical to pull the goalie.... late in a tie game......looking at the scores just before I went to bed....I was "feeling really good" as I am a CAPS fan...and just how miserable are the Canadians that they give up a tying goal at home in the final 10 seconds....to the Red Wings????(7 years in a row of no playoffs....5-12 in the playoffs the prior 3 years to that)
What's so bizarre about it? You do what you can for your team, not worry about rival teams. Det & Pitt can only blame themselves for putting their fate in another team's hands. But good clickbait title, it got me!
Detroit could have gone out and won wire to wire. The Red Wings are to blame for their own demise.
The title is clickbait because Tortorella didn't know their season was over anyway, but people in the comments are idiots, it was an extremely lame way for Detroit's season to end, especially after tying it with 3.3 seconds left, if this happened to the Maple Leafs people would lose their minds
Actually some of us do know this for a fact... You guys keep blabbing with the afterthought of having read and seeing this on the internet..... But I was watching this game live..... I was actually watching both screens live..... And as the Detroit fan who has an NHL wide chat room going on his cell phone. . Third device..... I can tell you that there were dozens of people typing this information all at the same time...... And that everyone on the Detroit bench except for Patrick Kane ( all business) knew they were f***** by that empty net goal right away... They were hanging their heads on the bench during the shootout and the shootout players look like they wanted to kill themselves.... By the way, does nobody want to mention the Philadelphia disallowed goal which made no sense at all? Watching two screens allowed me to gawk like wtf . I'm sure you guys were busy doing something else at the time, but die hard fans were watching this in real time it was a retarded reason for elimination. Hopefully it'll force Gary Bettman to change the tiebreaker rules.... Hopefully for a tiebreaker play off deciding type game. Keep in mind that Detroit had more wins on the season by one. Regulation Wins not so much. But yes Detroit to lose to Washington twice and to Pittsburgh once in the last week or two :(
Not a dumb decision. They had to win in regulation......repeat that till it sinks in. The second the game went to o.t . Flyers would be eliminated....Torts did the right thing.
As soon as you rely on other teams to win/lose to make the playoffs, you forfeit your right to opinion. If you don't like it, don't need another team to help you get into the playoffs 🤷♂
torts is such a clown
Torts knew. Like WTF was he thinking.
You know that for a fact?
@@MrPossum077 hey, this is the internet, man. Baseless and anonymous claims run free.
If he did thats lowkey based if we going down might as well bring 2 teams with us
Actually some of us do know this for a fact... You guys keep blabbing with the afterthought of having read and seeing this on the internet..... But I was watching this game live..... I was actually watching both screens live..... And as the Detroit fan who has an NHL wide chat room going on his cell phone. . Third device..... I can tell you that there were dozens of people typing this information all at the same time...... And that everyone on the Detroit bench except for Patrick Kane ( all business) knew they were f***** by that empty net goal right away... They were hanging their heads on the bench during the shootout and the shootout players look like they wanted to kill themselves.... By the way, does nobody want to mention the Philadelphia disallowed goal which made no sense at all? Watching two screens allowed me to gawk like wtf . I'm sure you guys were busy doing something else at the time, but die hard fans were watching this in real time it was a retarded reason for elimination. Hopefully it'll force Gary Bettman to change the tiebreaker rules.... Hopefully for a tiebreaker play off deciding type game. Keep in mind that Detroit had more wins on the season by one. Regulation Wins not so much. But yes Detroit to lose to Washington twice and to Pittsburgh once in the last week or two :(
Torts needed 2 regulation pts, didn't get the win, end of Flyers season and story.
HeHehheh. You said it's not on Torts. Heh heh heh. Lies. LIES. LIES
I mean what else was tortes supposed to do? They needed to win in regulation and that’s what they tried to do. Even if he did know that Detroit went into OT and what? That couldn’t have changed anything. Why help another team in the playoffs instead of trying to get in urself
If he knew Detroit tied it, he could no longer get his team into the playoffs. So saying that wouldn't change anything is incorrect. That literally changes everything. The Flyers can no longer make it, meaning they don't HAVE to win in regulation. And your last part about why help another team get in? I mean, that's exactly what they did. In wither case they were helping another team get in.
I'm not saying Torts knew, but was pointing it out because you said even if Torts had known. Basically I'm just saying *if* he knew, there was no reason to pull his goalie. Now even if Philly goes to OT, there's no guarantee the Caps wouldn't have won still.
Leafs are clearly in playoff Mode ⛳️
I'm sorry that the YzerPlan is not working...but don't blame Torts
Lies!!!
Skandal 👎
Nah this is on Detroit. If they can't beat a team like Montreal without going to overtime then frankly they don't deserve to be in the playoffs. As far as Torts knew Detroit was losing and Philly needed a big goal. If Detroit improves their goaltending and ability to hold leads next year they'll make the playoffs easily and won't have to depend on out of town help.
Torts being a moron? Right on brand.
3 minutes left in the game and one goal wins it. Weird discussion to pull the goalie.
They had to win in regulation for a chance. Makes sense
flyers had to win in regulation going to overtime would've eliminated the flyers. they were trying to win the game.
@@MrPossum077 Maybe at 1:30 left. Not at 3 minutes.
@@jjevans1693 That kind of thinking is why you are on CZcams comment section and not in NHL
@@MrPossum077 Thanks that means alot coming from someone like you.
The caps were always my third favorite team. I hope they get folded like a Walmart tent.
The Capitals will sink 0-4. Mark my words. They are the last team that should be in the playoffs. The Penguins would have deserved it not the Capitals. It shows the world we live in. Always the assho.s win always the wrong guys are lucky and get rich etc. The Capitals have 0 chance in the playoffs. Their goal difference is a joke. If you compare them with the Penguins it's amazing how the Penguins did not qualify.
@@CosmosZeroXwhy did the Penguins deserve it if they had less points and didn’t earn it?
@@justincosing5227 the Penguins goal difference is 1000x better than the - 1000 from the Capitals. The penguins played really well over the last weeks. They were in form. The worst team to get 8th spot are the Capitals. They will face the Rangers and they will 100 % lose 0-4 or 1-4. The Red Wings or Penguins should have got that spot. It's really amazing how the Flyers and Tortarella himself with his stupid decision ruined all playoff hopes of Detroit and the Penguins.
@@CosmosZeroX this just shows how salty and out of touch from reality you truly are. The Caps beat both those teams this year and are ahead of them in the standings. How does that lead to they deserved it? They didn’t! They didn’t earn it at all. Also, the Caps put themselves in the situation to make it with any type of win. So they knew entering the 3rd they could sit back because why wouldn’t they? They purposely didn’t press forward because they knew they could soak up the pressure and score when Philly pulled the GK. Philly and Tort didn’t know the Wings had scored as it just had happened and he was focusing on his game. You act like Washington wouldn’t have won if they pushed forward or if the game somehow went to OT or the SO. I’ve never seen so many people cry and bitch because a team earned their way into the playoff spot. GD which you and others keep bringing up means absolutely nothing. You just don’t like the Caps and wanted another team to make it. Unfortunately for you and others it didn’t happen. Grow up and move on! Maybe next year those teams will make it. Again, they have to EARN it…….
@@justincosing5227 I bet on the Penguins, Flyers and Red Wings. That's why I'm so frustrated. I know that the Penguins are better than the capitals but they somehow ruined it. Its my own stupidity that I made the those bets with high risk. I was an idiot to think that the Flyers could get far in the playoffs. They failed. In the end it doesnt matter because probably all of those teams wouldnt have survived the first round. I should have bet on Carolina or the Rangers but now its too late