Reasons Ghost Dog shot the hicks: 1. They broke the law, hunting out of season for bears. 2. They threatened him with rifle...the one guy actually points it at him. Some people say you never point a rifle unless you intend to shoot it. 3. They offended his sense of love for nature...you see this throughout the movie with ghost Dog and birds, etc. They had it coming.
This is a very simple yet extremely powerfully directed scene, and it would have been so easy to have overdone it. The key to it, is Whitakers calmness and self- assuredness throughout...It is clear he knows he is fully in control of the situation. A very very underrated film.
@@Charles-ij1ow no ,he killed two ws who hated blks because of they're tradition of criminal behavior ,fear ,not correcting they're own wretched lives disregarding others along with nature and were likely going to try and kill him ...did the world a unknown favor, imo it's a extremely underrated scene
let me let yall understand this so the scene in this movie makes more sense to yall for those who do not understand. He killed those two men for one reason and one reason alone. They took something from nature. In hagakure the author explains why it is important to balance your emotion when it comes to nature. By taking the natural life of that animal the balance of nature was tilted and only then as a samurai is to do is to re harmonize nature by replacing it.
One of my favorite films - and I JUST saw it/discovered it - thank you Sundance channel. It's so underrated - great story, music, symbolism, mystic, and bad ass. This clip resonates so much - the anger I can feel - the resentment against people who disrespect the natural world - especially when coming from an indigenous background, and being dismissed many times as a minority - as a person - this clip is so powerful -
@xerxes465 Agreed. However, I think the the reason Ghost Dog "cuts down" these two men is because they honor neither the laws of the land nor a code of mutual respect; in his eyes they're mere outlaws. As this notion of honor seemingly precedes "morality," they may be killed for their offense. Or so I gather.
'Sometimes it is.' Blam! He smoked that dude...Ghost Dog really does follow the code of the warrior greatly. That's why he's my favorite character in this movie.
Your favorite character in this movie? He is the ONLY character in this movie, the rest are just props. Except maybe for Sonny Valerio whose death is particularly satisfying.
Poachers for sure but bear pop is actually way overblown. Deer and coyotes as well. For twenty years now. It's actually quite unhealthy for the animals. But facts don't exactly have anything to do with Hollywood now do they?...
@@badlaamaurukehu No . 😺 All of you people who feel the need to kill things. Your thumb-dicked ilk always find an excuse, because you're tiny little creatures.
Maka Tupac is right , ghost dog was an independent but I know what u mean movies today are trash in general. Early 90s to mid 2000’s (no disrespect to the 80’s) put out huge amounts of great film
I'm sure that Ghostdog took his seven breaths to think about whether he was willing to accept the consequences of ending their lives. That is all that the Way requires of him, in the end. His willingness to act and then accept the consequences of his action - good or bad - without flinching. One can argue about whether the two hunters deserved to live or die. Or whether the bear deserved to live or die. One can even argue about whether the two have connection. GD made that decision himself.
Great scene from a great movie. Jarmusch goes to some length to draw an allegory to the bear and Ghost Dog - referring to the bear as equal to men and the bear, like the samurai, is an endangered species. Both can be fierce or gentle, solitary and strong, and both hunted for bounty or bragging rights. GD's was not a vengence killing anymore than the killing of the bear was. Just the turn of events neither fortunate nor unfortunate. Also, check out Jim J's "Dead Man" - his masterpiece, imo.
HydeWars Lol your mom divorced your dad, married a black dude, and you got stuck with your ignoramus abusive drunkard father. Endure, and in enduring, grow strong.
I really wish this movie didn't draw such morons. But maybe that was the point of the Hagakure... put morons to good use and allow the class to continue.
"That's why you kill'em? 'Cos there's not that many left?" ^^ I always remembered this scene from when i saw the movie 10-15 years ago and now i had to check it up again. Such a good scene. And when he says "Yeah, heh, i guess you're right" and turns and flips out his gun, such a quick act ^^ Acting friendly and defensive yet shoots the guy in 0.5 seconds.
Thats what bothers me as a Native American, seeing people hunt for sport and entertainment. Not for clothing, food, or respect for life. I love Ghost Dog protecting his way of life and following it, not many people do that. Native American hunt only what was needed to live, not over abundance. Letting life flourish, and flow.
We join spokes together in a wheel, but it is the center hole that makes the wagon move. We shape clay into a pot, but it is the emptiness inside that holds whatever we want ... We work with being, but non-being is what we use. ~ Lao Tzi
Our bodies are given life from the midst of nothingness. Existing where there is nothing is the meaning of the phrase, 'Form is emptiness'. That all things are provided for by nothingness is the meaning of the phrase, 'Emptiness is form'. One should not think that these are two separate things.
Hagakure is a kind of guidebook for samurai warriors, employing a brand of Zen that was distorted to fit the needs of the warriors..a kind of sawn-off Zen..somewhat like a sawn off shotgun ;)
Our bodies are given life from everythingness ;) Life is not meaningless but infinitely meaningful. This is why humans struggle with existentialism as we have not the ability to consciously perceive the eternal.
I love this scene... i love every scene in this film... i feel the same as ghost dog in tnis scene. Sad. And i look at how humans still behave towards each other and our planet. It is an ancient culture. In many ways more primitive than many cultures of the past.
Hollywood ran out of ideas some years ago. now it's either cheesy romantic comedys, zombie bullshit or overhyped gratuitous violence gore with no deeper message. indy and foreign films are the way forward
Mad Max Fury Road, Moonlight, and Blade Runner 2049 were post-2012 and are fantastic. But yeah other than that, it's been alot of trash over the years.
@crazychief9876 The teachings of that book are ... I keep mine too thanks to the movie. One of the most important passages in the book I think was at the end of the "Driving Scene."
Seems like most people want an excuse to kill. Killing the killers. What a world. Never heard of the movie until now. He's one of my favoriteactors, because he is kind.
There is A LOT OF DIFFERENCE. The loyalty to his sensei (the mafia guy) obbligates him to do that. Like a samurai, he can't choose his destiny. Instead,the two hunters could do that, and they choose to kill senseless
Forest Whitaker is a martial artist. Those training scenes. That was all him. As in, he was already trained in "the way". He actually is a samurai in the sense that he trains in that martial art form.
It doesnt seem like he killed them because they pissed him off (Ghost dog isnt the type to kill over something so petty me thinks) but because he saw them as something that needed to be romoved . the comments below explain it better . Despite him and They being outlaws, he saw them as an actual evil disrupting the natural flow of things.
GOOD BODY LANGUAGE AND EMOTION ! ... HOWEVER, ' NOTHINGNESS ' IN ITSELF IS A ' THING ', BY VIRTUE OF EXISTENCE, ALONE ! ... A MORE PRECISE INSIGHT IS; ' THAT, OF WHICH NO WORD CAN BE SAID ' ! YET AND STILL, ' FREQUENCY '; BE THE MEASURE OF AWARENESS HELD OVER ONE'S OWN BEING ... ETERNAL KNOWLEDGE AND BLISS !!!
I love this scene for this exact reason. in times of uncertainty we revert back to ancient ways
Do you even know what an Akita is?
We are "intelligent" animals, by which I mean we are able to look back into history. It is a shame that we learn almost nothing from it.
I like and agree with your comment, but I’m on this ASCII trip so ╭∩╮（︶_︶）╭∩╮, I mean you no disrespect as your retainer.
Well observed. Well said!
@@badlaamaurukehuakita? what the hell is an akita?
Reasons Ghost Dog shot the hicks:
1. They broke the law, hunting out of season for bears.
2. They threatened him with rifle...the one guy actually points it at him. Some people say you never point a rifle unless you intend to shoot it.
3. They offended his sense of love for nature...you see this throughout the movie with ghost Dog and birds, etc.
They had it coming.
The pointing of the rifle n threats.deffo the pointing n threats.pewpew
Nice of you to leave the reason of “racism” on the floor for the dead hunters. That DEFINITELY wasn’t what the scene was about 🙄
Who gives a fuck.go outside
Favorite scene and one I think back on EVERY time I hear about people hunting bears.
...sometimes it is.
you nailed it, that's the best part of the scene. Sometimes it is.
This is a very simple yet extremely powerfully directed scene, and it would have been so easy to have overdone it. The key to it, is Whitakers calmness and self- assuredness throughout...It is clear he knows he is fully in control of the situation. A very very underrated film.
He killed 2 guys for poaching a bear, it's not underrated.
@@Charles-ij1ow no ,he killed two ws who hated blks because of they're tradition of criminal behavior ,fear ,not correcting they're own wretched lives disregarding others along with nature and were likely going to try and kill him ...did the world a unknown favor, imo it's a extremely underrated scene
@@Charles-ij1ow as he lives like a samurai and samurais had to harmonise nature
@@trolleyracingmaster7075 Or a mentally unstable nut job
@@Charles-ij1ow They deserved it, lmao.
let me let yall understand this so the scene in this movie makes more sense to yall for those who do not understand. He killed those two men for one reason and one reason alone. They took something from nature. In hagakure the author explains why it is important to balance your emotion when it comes to nature. By taking the natural life of that animal the balance of nature was tilted and only then as a samurai is to do is to re harmonize nature by replacing it.
iN ancient times bears were considered equal with men.
I don’t know if it’s true but Ghost Dog believes it and therefore I believe it.
@@hanke11 yeah same 😁
yeah well these ain't no ancient times, mister
@@gundabalf sometimes it is....💥🔫
Not ancient times. This is a tribal belief among the Cherokee and Shawnee nations.
Those hunters drew their weapon first. That means they were ready for death. They got what they asked for.
Exactly, especially when the second man reached for the gun during their conversation, it's a threat, hands down.
One of my favorite films - and I JUST saw it/discovered it - thank you Sundance channel. It's so underrated - great story, music, symbolism, mystic, and bad ass. This clip resonates so much - the anger I can feel - the resentment against people who disrespect the natural world - especially when coming from an indigenous background, and being dismissed many times as a minority - as a person - this clip is so powerful -
nicely said
You should see "Dead Man", by the same director.
Classic
@xerxes465 Agreed. However, I think the the reason Ghost Dog "cuts down" these two men is because they honor neither the laws of the land nor a code of mutual respect; in his eyes they're mere outlaws. As this notion of honor seemingly precedes "morality," they may be killed for their offense.
Or so I gather.
nice breakdown
they insulted and threatened him
@@kentallard8852 ikr, TF 🙄
In some ancient cultures bears were thought of as equals-- GD
They want to be equal, I made her equal-- Mobster after shooting female cop
-This aint no ancient culture here mister.
-Sometimes it is..
then bye bye, by way of the silencer
"That's why you shoot them, huh? Because there's not that many left?"
watched this yesterday for the first time... definately one of the best films I have ever seen
Its a classic!
such an underrated movie. Love Jim Jarmusch and Forrest Whitaker.
this is one of my favorite movies!
'Sometimes it is.'
Blam! He smoked that dude...Ghost Dog really does follow the code of the warrior greatly. That's why he's my favorite character in this movie.
Your favorite character in this movie? He is the ONLY character in this movie, the rest are just props. Except maybe for Sonny Valerio whose death is particularly satisfying.
Rza is a genius ,that melody is so dope
To be fair, Forest Whitaker and Jim Jarmusch are kind of like bears 🐻
wish all trophy hunters got done that way.
www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/dozens-more-charges-filed-in-probe-of-pacific-northwest-wildlife-poaching-ring/
Poachers for sure but bear pop is actually way overblown. Deer and coyotes as well. For twenty years now. It's actually quite unhealthy for the animals.
But facts don't exactly have anything to do with Hollywood now do they?...
@@badlaamaurukehu Human pop too. It’s actually quite unhealthy for the animals.
We gonna start shooting those?
@@badlaamaurukehu No . 😺 All of you people who feel the need to kill things. Your thumb-dicked ilk always find an excuse, because you're tiny little creatures.
@@molly0000000s My dream 😹
Who still makes movies like this? todays Hollywood is garbage
spearPYN SO TRUE!!!!! HOLLYWOOD SUCKS DICKS IN HELL😇
This is independant movie
May be John Wick?
Maka Tupac is right , ghost dog was an independent but I know what u mean movies today are trash in general.
Early 90s to mid 2000’s (no disrespect to the 80’s) put out huge amounts of great film
@@linktotwilight It was of it's time and we are now seeing the fruition of that time bear upon us now...
I'm sure that Ghostdog took his seven breaths to think about whether he was willing to accept the consequences of ending their lives. That is all that the Way requires of him, in the end. His willingness to act and then accept the consequences of his action - good or bad - without flinching.
One can argue about whether the two hunters deserved to live or die. Or whether the bear deserved to live or die. One can even argue about whether the two have connection.
GD made that decision himself.
Sometimes it is.
Great scene from a great movie. Jarmusch goes to some length to draw an allegory to the bear and Ghost Dog - referring to the bear as equal to men and the bear, like the samurai, is an endangered species. Both can be fierce or gentle, solitary and strong, and both hunted for bounty or bragging rights. GD's was not a vengence killing anymore than the killing of the bear was. Just the turn of events neither fortunate nor unfortunate. Also, check out Jim J's "Dead Man" - his masterpiece, imo.
It’s the dog, ain’t it, not to be so literal? Ghost Dog passes him on his way to his first job and they share some understanding,
I wish this could happen in real life.
HydeWars How the fuck you think Blacks feel about You for exploiting them for Hundreds of years ????
HydeWars Lol your mom divorced your dad, married a black dude, and you got stuck with your ignoramus abusive drunkard father. Endure, and in enduring, grow strong.
Guys, I think Yoshi is talking about animal rights not race....
IT DOES EVERY DAY 8 PEOPLE DIED YESTERDAY
I really wish this movie didn't draw such morons.
But maybe that was the point of the Hagakure... put morons to good use and allow the class to continue.
Our Culture *is* Ancient!
Wonderful clip from a wonderful film. Thanks for uploading, and for keeping the commentary.
Cheers for the upload... perfect film in every way
That's real knowledge
This is how strange your fear of death
and emptiness is, and how perverse
the attachment to what you want.
Tks 4 sharing. Helps my "preparedness" even tho' not a hunter.....per se. I won't make the same mistake. #everydoghasitsday
An underrated film excellent actor
Man, it must be fun to do this in real life.
I honestly think i would enjoy it and afterwards feel like i had done something good.
ITS ALWAYS AN ANCIENT CULTURE
the whole movie is a MASTERPIECE IMO !!
this is such an underrated movie
I like Ghost Dog because of the Japanese philosophy in it. I own some of those books.
I love this movie .
"That's why you kill'em? 'Cos there's not that many left?" ^^ I always remembered this scene from when i saw the movie 10-15 years ago and now i had to check it up again. Such a good scene. And when he says "Yeah, heh, i guess you're right" and turns and flips out his gun, such a quick act ^^ Acting friendly and defensive yet shoots the guy in 0.5 seconds.
Thats what bothers me as a Native American, seeing people hunt for sport and entertainment. Not for clothing, food, or respect for life. I love Ghost Dog protecting his way of life and following it, not many people do that. Native American hunt only what was needed to live, not over abundance. Letting life flourish, and flow.
Man I've gotta see the whole movie one day, it's very interesting :)
Such a Brilliant Film
I love this movie
We join spokes together in a wheel, but it is the center hole that makes the wagon move.
We shape clay into a pot, but it is the emptiness inside that holds whatever we want ... We work with being, but non-being is what we use. ~ Lao Tzi
Best scene in the movie!
There's a new show on tv called "The Sniper" that opens the exact same way except it's in a forest with a wolf.
This is immeasurably better.
Our bodies are given life from the midst of nothingness. Existing where there is nothing is the meaning of the phrase, 'Form is emptiness'. That all things are provided for by nothingness is the meaning of the phrase, 'Emptiness is form'. One should not think that these are two separate things.
Hagakure is a kind of guidebook for samurai warriors, employing a brand of Zen that was distorted to fit the needs of the warriors..a kind of sawn-off Zen..somewhat like a sawn off shotgun ;)
really epic!!!!!
Bad day to run into an african American Caribbean samurai shintoist
This was pretty much the best movie ever made lol
Our bodies are given life from everythingness ;)
Life is not meaningless but infinitely meaningful. This is why humans struggle with existentialism as we have not the ability to consciously perceive the eternal.
matt Dailey How is it meaningful, though?
Bjorn Nathan Semkow Whats wrong...Can't your ego give you the answer ?
Dude, what the fuck, man. Why the hostility? I was just asking how it is meaningful. no need to get shitty about it. It's not me with the Ego, here.
+Bjorn Nathan Semkow I think Matt's ego is the problem.
+Bjorn Nathan Semkow you have to find your own meaning. Everyone finds its his own. Ask your soul that
have this on my forearm
Thank you.
i love this epic scene
=)
god...i love it...
УНИКАЛЕН ФИЛМ !!! GREAT MOVEI !! I try to live by the bushido it helps a lot
I love this scene... i love every scene in this film... i feel the same as ghost dog in tnis scene. Sad. And i look at how humans still behave towards each other and our planet. It is an ancient culture. In many ways more primitive than many cultures of the past.
The dirt is older than us all, yet steadily withstands our puny presence; and soon, we ourselves are covered in dirt.
You show 'em Ghost Dog!
Emptiness is Form
Thank you for the exlanation.:) Now i understand a bit.With is better than noting.
Amen.
The inspiration behind ALF.........
Yeah man you're right
Gnar.
I need to see this.
He's a pretty good shot for only having one eye.
One eye?
Guess ghost dog got into star wars
the bullet went through his face paint lol
What a film
i wish they would makes real movies again; nothing since 2012 is any good
Hollywood ran out of ideas some years ago. now it's either cheesy romantic comedys, zombie bullshit or overhyped gratuitous violence gore with no deeper message. indy and foreign films are the way forward
Birdman
Check out Sicario
@420 Everyday Taken 2 and 3 are laughably bad man
Mad Max Fury Road, Moonlight, and Blade Runner 2049 were post-2012 and are fantastic. But yeah other than that, it's been alot of trash over the years.
awesome
that's a nice house!
He always reminded me of Wish Bone of Bone Thugs in this movie
Beautiful scene...pay attention folks
@crazychief9876 The teachings of that book are ... I keep mine too thanks to the movie. One of the most important passages in the book I think was at the end of the "Driving Scene."
THE BREATH ... AND WHAT IT HOLDS !!!
Seems like most people want an excuse to kill. Killing the killers. What a world. Never heard of the movie until now. He's one of my favoriteactors, because he is kind.
I just never tire of watching this scene.
Exactly.
Imma pull up in a benz and say the same thing
that is kick ass
This scene reminds me when Logan when into the Bar to find the guy who shot at a bear in that Wolverine movie
The bear weighs less than ghost dog!
Professionnel 😁
ONE;LOVE
Either way, owned, nice one ghosty me mucka!
There is A LOT OF DIFFERENCE. The loyalty to his sensei (the mafia guy) obbligates him to do that. Like a samurai, he can't choose his destiny. Instead,the two hunters could do that, and they choose to kill senseless
in beneath we are just animals behaving like humans
I swear Forest Whitaker actually found The Way while working on this flick, if not he did his research well that's for sure.
Forest Whitaker is a martial artist. Those training scenes. That was all him. As in, he was already trained in "the way". He actually is a samurai in the sense that he trains in that martial art form.
I meant to do a Thumbs up not thumbs down, sorry! You summed up the movie perfectly.
It doesnt seem like he killed them because they pissed him off
(Ghost dog isnt the type to kill over something so petty me thinks)
but because he saw them as something that needed to be romoved . the comments below explain it better .
Despite him and They being outlaws, he saw them as an actual evil disrupting the natural flow of things.
thx, man
@tocicar do you know the title of the movie? i would be very interested to see it.
OK, I will. Glad you responded. I got super busy and spaced the whole thing.
Tooo dope
Timothy Treadwell would have loved this scene. I love Ghost Dog. One of my favourite movies. Peace.
GOOD BODY LANGUAGE AND EMOTION ! ...
HOWEVER, ' NOTHINGNESS ' IN ITSELF IS A ' THING ', BY VIRTUE OF EXISTENCE, ALONE ! ...
A MORE PRECISE INSIGHT IS; ' THAT, OF WHICH NO WORD CAN BE SAID ' !
YET AND STILL, ' FREQUENCY '; BE THE MEASURE OF AWARENESS HELD OVER ONE'S OWN BEING ...
ETERNAL KNOWLEDGE AND BLISS !!!
always be one of my top 5 favorite movies.
little known fact: legend has it, that after this scene, Ghost Dog went into the woods and became Rambo
true indeed
Nice explanation dude.
@spanoischillin im reading hakakure around this time =D
and it is amazing,i was already busy following the way before i read it,and still am ;)
Out "MOFO" standing movie !
....one of Whitaker's Best!