Sure, They CAN Sing But They're Not AMAZING Either | Rihanna, Dua Lipa, Taylor Swift ... (part 1)
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Pop singers who fall somewhere in the middle on the 'bad' to 'incredible' spectrum. The potential is there though! Let me know if maybe you'd like to see a part 2, there's many more singers that could be here!
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0:00 Not every pop singer is an amazing vocalist and that's OK.
1:04 Rihanna (the queen)
3:13 Taylor Swift
4:40 Ed Sheeran
6:00 Katy Perry
7:51 Dua Lipa
8:19 Zara Larsson
9:27 Madison Beer
11:03 Outro - Krátké a kreslené filmy
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About Zara Larsson:
I get what you're saying; it may not make sense for me to include her here but I really wanted to
I thought she was mediocre because of the type of songs she performs and her overall visuals and style oriented brand. I was SHOCKED by her skills and I thought that if I had this type of reaction maybe some of y'all would react like this too.
She's an impressive vocalist!
It is obvious that you were wrong to include Zara Larsson in this video, period.
Its insane how underrated Zara is, i just dont get it!
She won Sweden Got Talent when she was a child. It's clear Zara Larsson has a lot of vocal training
@@tiffanycole3239 I don't get it too
about 9:15, ariana is miles better than zara in all aspects so idk what you mean here.
I think Taylor swift s songwriting abilities is what got her to the top , I mean her voice is good , but her stage presence is amazing and definitely the best songwriter of her generation and she’s a very hardworking person
one of the best comment down here. as a fan yes i admitted it that she's not the high-belting singer like mariah carey or jessie J but her stage presence is unbeatable, and the main reason why she's loved and still has a big fanbase around her is her songwriting skills. her early years vocals are quite shaky and unstable but she improved a lot since 1989 tour era (2014-2015) - now.
stage presence????? Taylor is better when she is on a guitar or at a piano. Performing is not her strong suite at all.
@@DGBETCH um watch dont blame me /ready for it /amas 2019 performance your mind will change
@@haddadimen8957 to say she’s the best at that isn’t necessarily true every artist needs to have good stage presence
I said she has a great stage presence but she’s the best songwriter of her generation ( at least top 3)
I feel like people associate good singing with being able to hit high notes. 🤷🏽♀️
Yes it's sad to see people think in this way
Sometimes. But Brandy and Jazmine Sullivan are praised for their riffs and lower registers so it’s not always the case
@@ddoctrinessthe most of time people focus and credit high notes , low notes are underrated asf !
Yeah
yeah it’s kinda annoying
Katy Perry and Rihanna when they take their singing seriously they sound really good.
Same with Mariah now
@@THEE.apples Just for you know. Mariah's technique still over the top.
I'm pretty sure you don't even know what that is. Her voice is same as her prime? NO. But her technique is still exquisite.
@@THEE.apples 🤣😅🤣 You can't be serious with that comment. Putting her in the same sentence as Katy Perry and Rihanna when it comes to where they stand as vocalists 🤦♂️
Katy has great resonance when she's calm while performing.
@@GarageStudio7 I love Mariah she is in my opinion one of the best vocalists of all time,but i hate when people compare her with other Singers for example like Rihanna,because lets be fair Mariah outsings her,but like he said great singer is not all about the vocals,Rihanna is in my opinion better performer,so if its battle with vocals hands down Mariah wins,when it comes who has the best stage presence,songs,dancing ability,Rihanna is better so,music is diverce and its not always about vocals
taylor and katy’s voices have definitely gotten better as they age
Atla fannn???
@@subliminal5543 yup and lok fan too lol
Thank you!
Probably Taylor, but Katy can't sing live
@@Jackben1mble wtf lmao they both can sing
Taylor lows sound pretty relaxed and pretty. She shines with acoustic singing
Ikr
And she's improved so much
nah
Hi, I've never been into Taylor Swift, but I hear a lot of people who say that her acoustics shine! Can you tell me what exactly about it does that? (Just my opinion, but I always considered her more of a songwriter and artist than an actual VOCALIST)
@@rr2776 just watched her folklore live sessions 😌
I'm not a fan of Taylor but man she's such a great songwriter in my opinion . She puts everything at the right place in a song whether its words ,beats , notes...I recently listened her new album Folklore and tbh its really a work of art
lyrical masterpieces with ME!, YNTCD, Shake it Off, Ready for It, etc. is straight up delusion
@@DL-sl3nt that are probably her worst songs lyrically talking. cardigan is a lyrical masterpiece and it is a single.
@@DL-sl3nt all of those songs were written for album promotion and selling and succeeded,her red,folk more and evermore are lyrical masterpiece
@@DL-sl3nt notice how every song you mentioned are singles which serves as a promotion for her albums. It’s clear that you haven’t listened to her albums where she hides her gems
Lol you sound like a fan
Rihanna just lacks consistency in my opinion cuz she’s actually amazing when she takes her singing seriously!! And she has massively improved vocally too!!
The “when she takes her singing seriously” comments are taking me out 😂😂😂 the world we live in where musicians that are paid millions don’t even take their own singing seriously.
She is even rated B- vocalist acually
@@psychomaia she use to take it seriously. But she stopped caring after she opened up her business. But she’s releasing music now so hopefully she cares
@@filipmarinkovic6281 that is determined on consistency, perfomances etc…not exactly on technique. Bcs if it wasn’t then why the hell is pink above Celine dion?? It’s determined on those cherry picked bad performances, bcs Rihanna has some greatttt vocal moments. She just doesn’t care to show her good vocals
@@Badgalriri2.0 she's gotten better vocally as well, so hope she sounds better this era
Dua doesn’t show her voice enough in my opinion.
I feel the same way! I think she has so much potential to be a lot more creative with her instrument.
She had a couple of good moments in Studio 2054 live where she showcased more of her vocals.
@@Darius731 yeah, I think it's something that will happen overtime. She's getting better and better.
Listen to her cover of “I’d Rather Go Blind” by Etta James! I was really impressed when I first saw it because I never knew she could do that.
@@mal3nko I already have, that’s why I know she has so much potential
Taylor’s lower range is Chef kiss. she has one of the most unique vocal color and i just love
In this comparison video there is no mention of a gifted true singer who writes her own music plays three instruments and sings incredibly in lows and high tones with great melismas, power and tone and do it in three languages and will be the dominating female voice for 2022 and that is Queen FAOUZIA
@@johnbevan9053 i think they were just telling their opinion not dissing the video or anything like that
Unique vocal color?
@@johnbevan9053 who are you talking about?
@@bafbaas1210 her vocal techniques are unique aslo her voice her tons is beautiful
This generation seems so obsessed with high belts and vocal runs and things that anyone who can't do those is accused of being "bad". I don't even know where this obsession comes from, but I mean, common, music is not just about that. Take Carole King and Karen Carpenter for example. They hardly belted or did super impressive vocal runs when singing, but no one ever said they were bad artists/singers. Their music is marvellous and can touch so many hearts.
The singers mentioned in this video are by no way "vocalists", but more than that, they are great artists who have decent vocal abilities to deliver their artistry. That's how I'm gonna put it.
Yes, cause music is not about hitting high notes, this narrative is old
I really have to agree. This generation seems really obsessed about high notes when thats not what Music is about at all
This style of melismatic singing originated in the black gospel church and then made its way to pop music through the popular black female singers, it’s great, but you’re correct that there are other styles of singing that should be appreciated for their own merits. For example when people talk about great vocalists I never hear rock vocalists mentioned, only soul divas.
tbh Katy & Zara can be classifiedas vocalists
@@grandeflamesbutera3949 as part of the generation being talked about, i think it's because people are so used to singers showing off what they could do and how high they could do it and that just makes us expect more.
I'm shocked Zara is here. I feel she doesn't do much vocal showcasing but she has it.
Yeahhh same. She needs work, but she’s too good to be here.
@@k.n3809 her breath control and stamina has improved over the years.
@@avekatumba4794 Yeah, that's true. I also feel like she's gotten more comfortable exploring her upper belts and doing more complicated runs.
Yea Zara def doesn’t need to be in here she’s improved so much
EMA performane.
Taylor never marketed herself as a vocalist. She has always been a composer, multi instrumentalist with a singer-songwriter approach to her songs. She is not trying to be mariah Carey or whitney, she is more on the lane of the carpenters, Beatles and Joni Mitchell. As far as songwriting goes she is putting her best stuff yet with folklore and evermore. Stop pushing this weird agenda that everyone should sound like Whitney or Celine to be considered a good artist.
no one’s pushing the agenda that she has the be like whitney or mariah... they’re just saying she’s an okay singer compared to her pop predecessors
@@butterflyszn2342 correction, the term you should use is a vocalist, not a singer, the main job of a singer is to emote and connect with the audience, Taylor is an amazing singer but not a good vocalist. you can find good vocalists in the voice, American idol and x-factor you can go watch them if you want, I prefer people who create art and make their own music like Taylor and even Mariah. but that's my preference
@@6ftofmisery636 yes! finally someone who gives mariah enough credit for her songwriting ability and musicality!! her vocals definitely overshadow her musicality, but it's there, and it's aging like fine wine.
@@butterflyszn2342 that’s exactly what’s happening in this video actually
You need to calm down. Lol 😝 also Karen Carpenter is one the best vocalists of all time. She has a 3 octave contralto and she had perfect pitch. So you can’t really compare the two. This account is solely about vocal ability and while Tay is great at songwriting, she’s an okay singer and definitely no vocalist. That doesn’t mean she’s not a good artist.
5:44 "His runs... exist" 💀.
I was looking for this comment☠️☠️☠️😂😂
Lowkey shady lol
LMAOOOO
I have never heard of Zara Larson being a "bad singer." she was first "discovered" on a kids competition singing show. I never thought she was a bad singer ever.
He said nobody on this list is a bad singer
Nobody said she was a bad singer. Zara Larson is great.
Zara deserves more buzz.
@@aubrey_reignz5484 but why is she on a list with genuine okay singers, she's miles better than the rest
@@aubrey_reignz5484exactly
3:54 I always thought that Taylor should capitalize more on her lower register coz her speaking voice is fairly low already.
I think if she’d stuck with country she would have been accessing it naturally
@@ishouldbesleeeping well folklore is full of that actuallt
Same with Selena Gomez...
@@ishouldbesleeeping her country songs actually has this really bright youthful tone tho... even in her song Betty from her folklore album, that one song sounds particularly bright in comparison to the other songs. But yeah, basically in folklore and evermore she’s been using more of her lower note.
@@ishouldbesleeeping nah she’s good
Holy shit I did NOT expect Taylor to hit notes like the one on “Lord” in Don’t Blame Me 😳 4:30
@Rich Max McHalliwchester yeah she’s a fairly pretty good singer
Rihanna and Katy's tone are so good, if they weren't lazy and studied more to improve their technique, they would be one of the best
They are the best.
Katy Perry is not lazy, she has improved a lot over the years, Rihanna is the one that is very lazy and doesn’t really care about it whereas Katy showed a lot of improvement
@@sass_king5576 Katy and RIHANNA are not lazy and don't say nothing Abt Rihanna that she's lazy okay.
@@ivarpengel3054 rihanna got a lot better she is so good
Considering how rihanna sounded when she was signed she has improved MILES. its impossible for rihanna to be lazy when she sings Love On The Brain the way she does. there are obviously lessons being had.
Taylor Swift has definitely evolved ❤️🔥
Dua just doesn’t do songs that showcase her vocals but she definitely has them look her up singing I’d rather go blind & I’d consider Katy Perry a great vocalist despite her flaws
@Eunoia Flowers her tone is amazing
@@cristi4n.anderson future nostalgia is a masterpiece. Not only does it fit the taste of the general public but also the professional musicians. Everyone likes it.
@@cristi4n.anderson her album Future Nostalgia is amazing tho
@@cristi4n.anderson what are you talking about future nostalgia is an amazing album don't be that much ignorant 😁
@@terryho5275 ummm i didn't like Future Nostalgia so pls don't say everyone
Taylor Swift is also good at transitions. She's consistent and does them often.
Katy Perry's mid belts>>>>.. She deserves much more appreciation!
Nice video
I wouldnt say she is good transitions more so just average but what do u mean by transitions?
She's not consistent, the sound and pitch are usually unstable.
@@moragev2606 her vocals are much more stable now, especially when she's with her guitar alone on her stage. go watch some
@@moragev2606 listen to tolerate it/gold rush the transition of songs are good
@@nickabockanumber9699 you don’t know what a transition is but you’re saying she’s average? 😭😭😭
Transitions are, if I’m not mistaken when one switches from a certain type of voice to another. For example from chest voice to falsetto (cmiiw tho, been a while since I heard that explanation), and taylor is really good at it! The example is Tolerate It from her evermore album.
Katy actually improved she sounds very competent nowadays
You don`t have to be a vocal powerhouse to be a pop star. Depends on what kind of pop you do. Take Sheeran - he`s just fine as he is. His songs don`t need much vocal athletics. Same with Swift. You can be an awesome country artist without a particularly great voice. Perry is nothing special, but sufficient to do her job. And so on. They`re all quite successful.
In the end, let´s not measure every pop talent against the so-called Greats ( Carey, Houston, etc) Not everything they sing sounds good either and you can get a bellyache of all that belting and highest-note-contests. Sometimes less is more imho.
exactly, also soft, emotive singing (like Taylor's) can be really beautiful and it brings out the focus on the lyrics, not just on crazy runs and belts
I agree and I feel like with some artist if you put out quality music that makes up for it. Ed Sheeran, Taylor, even Bobby Brown not the best vocalist put out decent pop music
True Selena gomez is a great example
Well in all fairness Carey and Houston didnt always belt. Lol
@@lessismore8533 No, they didn`t. And, to me at least, some of their best vocal work was outside that. Btw, I really liked Houston.
Love Rihanna’s voice can’t help it sorry. She has one of my favourite voices it just does something to me. Maybe it’s that unique Caribbean flair that she has which separates her from her peers. Gorgeous gorgeous tone even tho she isn’t the best singer from a technical standpoint
Exactly, we don't care for riffs and runs when it comes to Rihanna
@@munderaruwa5990 she used to do a lot of runs and ad libs earlier in her career but that was back when she was singing right through the depths of her nostrils 😂
@@aubrey_reignz5484 😂😂😂 That's my fave right there, I just love her soul in music
Yeah but the video isn't about having a good voice, it's really technique. She has improved since she debuted , I think 2016(?) Performances of Anti songs attest to that the most, but she can do more to improve her agility and control etc
@@ad2094 Agreed but it’s like she doesn’t really care cos she would’ve fulfilled her true vocal potential by now (she’s almost 33 y/o). I love her voice but I can understand why she has a mixed singing reputation. Wish she’d take it more seriously cos she got so much untapped potential. Riri can definitely sing but she lazy asf.
Rihanna actually has the potential to be a vocalist! She seemed to care a lot about how she sounds early in her career by experimenting many techniques and sounds. But something i noticed after 2010 is that she started to care less about how she sounds on stage. Often it is a problem of breath control which is why she sounds bad most of the time when she sings up-tempo songs like we found a love, s and m etc.. Notice how amazing she sounds when she sings her slow tempo songs. She can easily access her upper and lower belt though she lost some of it due to smoking. I think if she works on her breathing and take some vocal lessons she can be called a vocalist. I hope we get to see more of vocalihanna on R9. Also one thing i love about rihanna is that she almost 90 % of the time never lip-synchs.
I think after 2010 Rihanna wanted more of that rockstar aesthetic about her on stage kinda that’s why she really didn’t care about how she sounded tbh in my opinion. And i appreciate that Rihanna doesn’t lip sync she just uses a lot of back tracking which most artist does!
@@javioncalloway6584 I agree that she wanted to find her own sound because before 2010 people were constantly comparing her with beyonce . After 2010 she tried to be Rihanna and in the process she lost some of her old technique. While she does use backtrack she doesn't lipsynch fully on stage.
We must have not seen the same Rihanna in the 2010s. I wonder what most of y'all who are saying the thing you said are basing this argument because, yeah, right after the LOUD era (i think this album was a vocal performance) there were Talk that Talk who were mainly club bangers but the ballads on Unapologetic showcase her singing actually. So the "she stop caring after the 2010" is just a odd statement if we see the single choice she made after 2010.
@@unapologetic2992 well then you’re right, we didn’t see the same Rihanna, cbs she definitely has the potential to be a vocalist, don’t let these pop songs fool you.
@@elroe327 anyone can be a vocalist with traning or focusing and the fact that you think she doesn't lip syncs sorry mam but she barely sings live
LMAO at the Intro w/ Aretha!
Rihanna is not a "vocalist" but she has massively improved and when she's takin' it serious and she's focused, she's a very capable singer. I love her.
agree in the madison beer part, she tends to overdo, but her agility, head voice and transitions are sooo good. and her music is also amazing imo. i understand why she’s here
I agree w everything u said except the music part, IMO, I find it incredibly basic and boring and so not original but almost every artist has that phase in the start(Ariana-Mariah, lady gaga-Madonna etc.) so issok hopefully she’ll grow out of it she’s got talent tho unlike most other ‘tik tok’ singers 🤡
@@NotJoegoldberg really? i really loove some of her songs(her older songs as well), did you ever hear unbreakable? that song gets me very emotional, selfish is sooo cute as well. i think her songs are just my style, i really like ballads and sad songs
@@aritourvocals49 ooh makes sense then, I did listen to those songs, I did not like them...just not my taste I guess. I do like ballads and sad songs tho but just not these.
I honestly feel like her personality will prevent her from being big in the future
@@NotJoegoldberg you should check her life support album out it’s stunning
katy perry’s voice is much more consistent now, and like more pleasant to listen to live
Katy and Taylor have definitely improved a lot over the years
Katy and Taylor have definitely gotten better
Especially Katy
I can testify to her(the lady literally whistled live at a performance of Bon Appetit!! Like that was insane)
And then there's her song with Zedd.
It really showed an unexpected agility in HV/falsetto. Just flawless.
Also on Daisies she seems to be going all out in her range especially in the chorus. Cos like she blows up so high. And also Harleys in Hawaii. Her HV and falsettos sounds great. She also belts and growls in the ending.
And then there's Taylor.
I honestly dunno bout her upper range but like her lows sounded a lot more stable than usual... prolly on par with Lauren Jauregui tbh
Her belts don't sound too forced now. They sound great.
And her albums Folklore and Evermore have really shown she's mastered the art of harmonizations.
And she can growl!!
Vocally...trust me
These two HAVE REALLY matured.
Especially both of them.
about Taylor's upper belts. She very rarely go higher than E5, but she has a lot unexpected ease. She belted G5 like nothing, it's wasn't the best technique, but not bad either. Taylor definitely could belt above E5 consistently with little more training, But it's not her style, Taylor has a lot potential in all parts of her voice, but she never really focused on her vocals, especially on upper belts and her falsetto in 6th octave and also her agility. Taylor could be quite agile if she wanted. Taylor always only focused on her lower register and mid belts. And mostly her songwriting and production of her vocals, like you said she mastered the art of harmonization.
What performance of bon appetit do you mean?
Katy sounds amazing these days she has developed her skills in great amount
she was always good before it was just her lack of breath (check out her old stuff) and also not forgetting that she is strictly a pop singer so she doesn't focus on belting and all that. but her newer stuffs have lots of belts and high notes probably she's focusing on belts and all that
@@theunknown463 exactlyy someone said it, mtv unplugged is a great example, 2001-2010 was the peak of her technique, after that she started to strain a lot. she can't do riffs like she did in 2008 anymore
When people will understand that Taylor is a songwriter lol? Also Ed Sheeran. They don't need to hit high notes because the lyrics are more important
lyrical masterpieces with ME!, YNTCD, Shake it Off, Ready for It, etc. is straight up delusion
@@DL-sl3nt the lakes, my tears ricochet, august, getaway car, death by a thousand cuts, all too well, and new romantics beg to disagree
@@DL-sl3nt All too well, Red, invisible string, Evermore, Dear John, Seven, Champagne Problems, Gold Rush, etc. Nice try, hater.
@@DL-sl3nt and those are the songs that she admitted she wrote only to be radio friendly tho?? 😭😭 her less radio friendly songs all had deeper meanings. Let’s start with folklore and evermore because she clearly stated she dgaf about the radio friendly-ness of those albums and talk again later when you heard them, okay?
And they do anyways they are amazing singer they are actually the best singers in my opinion
Katy’s mid belts tho and HV usage is on another level>>
Rihanna's voice definitely improved, Pon De Replay or Umbrella Rihanna couldn't give us Love On The Brain or Stay Rihanna, im glad & very happy with her evolution! She's grown into such a respectable woman, energy & force to be wreckend with! She's beyond the music industry, may she continue to higher her name & god continue to bless her 👑 she deserves all the happiness in the world!
Wish Rihanna's diamonds performance from Victoria's secret was here, her best vocals imo
I’m glad you included Madison here, she has so much potential. And each year that passes she gets bettter and better.
who tf is madison and what was that embarrassment on stage she did
Taylor doesn’t need to be a powerhouse vocalist like Jessie J or Fergie. She’s expanding her range and for some reason she’s better at singing acoustics... BECAUSE SHE'SA REAL SINGER
Delusional much ?
Taylor herself would even say she’s not a super strong vocalist. She’s even said her thing is more about storytelling. She’s an incredible lyricist and she has a compelling image that keeps people way too interested in her life.
Of course her voice is pretty and nice to listen to and I’m honestly a fan. But I don’t listen to her when I want to hear powerful vocals. I listen to her when I want to hear powerful lyrics.
I dont understand..
@@monkeydlewfy okay anime fans? Well, your opinion doesn't even matter at all 💀
If you see Taylor’s child singer days, you’ll see that she can belt when she wants too.
Rihanna has really good potential.. And her tone was so unique, sound deep but pleasant
I don’t understand why you put Zara, lol. You literally admitted in the vid how good she is.... 😂😭
@@OliverHeikkinen I mean, you're gonna have to be a bit more specific...
She’s not a vocalist
@@sir3958 I’d disagree with you there. I’d say she’s pretty accomplished. She needs some polishing.
@Irene _ Yeah, she's definitely not perfect! But I still think she's a pretty amazing singer.
@@k.n3809right. Yes she might be the greatest but she's pretty amazing imo
Taylor's longpond studio sessions was amazing!!
taylors voice ages like wine , every year it gets better and better , her low vocal range is *chef kiss* also she can hit high notes .
I think we should view Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran as musicians more than singers.
Taylor is the ultimate example of growth in her voice i have ever seen. Its amazing. And the thing is, she is the best writer of this generation. Her production and ability to write lyrics is just genius. So the fact her voice is growing along with that is amazing. A lot of singers sound ok or even great but can't write well at all. Taylor has it all.
Katy has given many decent (some even great) performances after 2017, I really enjoy listening to her recent acoustic performances 😍 Taylor's ease and beautiful tone in her lower range are admirable. I'd also include singers like Adam Levine, Charlie Puth, Camilla Cabello, Lana Del Rey, and Marina - all decent singers who are better than most critics give them credit for, but still have certain issues/inconsistencies that separate them from the more skilled vocalists in pop.
Taylor and Ed’s musicality/multi-instrumentalism and songwriting, and Rih’s stage presence and dancing compensates imo. But I would love to see them be more consistent with technique.
and katy perry was pregnant in those clips, so if she wants she is really good
Yea..the baby was the perfect vocal support
I disagree. Vocally she’s really not that strong. Not a lot of control. Most of her riffs are sloppy. She has great music definitely but not the strongest in any of her errors
Noooooo
@@JayyNyxx her belting and head voice transitions are great tho, she definitely can sang when she really focuses
@@sass_king5576 ehh I love her music I really do. But technical ability, it’s really just decent and that’s it. She can be strong yes that’s true but most of her performances just fall short due to her always being so pitchy
I feel like Rihanna sounds really really good when she wants to.
Taylor swift is a story teller first and foremost, she is one of the best songwriters ever
lyrical masterpieces with ME!, YNTCD, Shake it Off, Ready for It, etc. is straight up delusion
@@DL-sl3nt those are her singles lol singles are used for commercial success try all too well,champagne problems, tolerate it,exile,my tears ricochet,cardigan honestly anything from folklore or evermore that’s her best lyrical work
@@DL-sl3nt red was also very lyric focused ofc all of her albums have mostly masterpieces because she is simply a talented songwriter but red folklore and evermore have her best lyrics so don’t judge from her singles which were literally put out just for commercial success lol
And singer she’s an Amazing singer like Fr she has an amazing voice
@@kierramcgraw she is a good songwriter not great or the best
Dua Lipa has serious potential to me, I feel that her range is shorter and lower and she pulls her voice higher and tries to be belty for pop marketability. She has a phenomenal vibrato and a full & sultry voice, she would do herself major justice to sing songs more conducive to a Toni Braxton
She’d sound so good doing a James Bond theme song
@@JackWelchTV she did a etta james cover, you HAVE to look it up
@@sass_king5576 yes and her do I wanna know cover was also so amazing
@KG To each their own. IMO she has a naturally mature & seductive "womanly" tone.
She also has a very mysterious smokey timbre and her persona matches up perfectly with her low & reserved, voice.
I personally think she sounds terrible singing high notes and it's clear she can't do much in the 5th octave. I think she should sing to her strengths.
@KG No, great tone is absolutely a learned trait. Just because genetics ALSO play a role doesn't mean great tone isn't a feature of technique.
But more importantly, I never said she was talented anyways lol?
Tone, Technique and Artistic Musicality are all learned traits. It's perfectly okay to say someone has potential if they've crossed one of those benchmarks.
I feel like your analogy was loaded because actors don't practice being attractive the same way singers practice executing great tone, however to be fair, a lot of good tone also is a matter of genetics.
props to you for being the first person ever i've heard praise Katy's musicianship and creativity when it comes to note changes. She's so good at changing melodies and I've always loved that about her. My belting range is kinda limited, and if I'm able to switch the song up to suit my abilities, I will give katy the credit for that sense of mine
I love Rihanna voice and I like that it’s unique and bring out some Caribbean, West Indian vibes. She has great emotion on stage and I love her vocals ❤️ idc if it’s not the highest vocal, she just different and that’s what sets her apart of everyone else in my opinion.
Upcoming artists should really look up to established songwriters and take their writings as an inspiration for them to write too. One of the few artists who are not only vocally-talented, but is also a talented songwriter is Mariah Carey. She has the total package and I think songwriting is what artists should really take into consideration to in order for them to be constantly successful and have longevity in their career. Take a look at Taylor. She's not on the powerhouse vocals level as Mariah or Whitney, etc. but she continues to succeed in her career because of her songwriting and her her identity as an artist.
Mariah is a great singer and a great writer, but she's not the total package. She is not great on live performances, She lacks energy and security.
Dang Katy, she really can hit those notes
What people need to realise is this style of melismatic singing originated in the black gospel churches and then made its way to pop music through the popular black female singers over many decades, it’s great, but there are other styles of singing that should be appreciated for their own merits. You don’t have to hit the high notes or belt for your life to be a ‘good singer’. A singer like Billie Eillish or Angele are great examples. Also when people talk about great vocalists I never hear rock vocalists mentioned, only soul divas and that’s a problem. We need to change the conversation around what ‘Good’ singing is.
Exactly, our black genres are usually very soulful and have ranges, you have to feel it, from Gospel, RnB, Jazz, Reggae, Afrobeats, Juju, highlife... You just have to feel it to sing it
I co-sign this statement! It’s at the point where people sound very similar (even their singing gestures) and there are so many ways a voice can be beautiful. Not everyone has to sound like an American Idol contestant or an imitation of black gospel.
I have seen many people covering Taylor Swift's songs (since she has so many hits)... And, over the years, I've come to realize that she has one big strength (in my opinion)... And that is: emoting and intonation, specially when it comes to portraying the "characters" in her songs (or dialogue). You can always hear if the speaker is sad, angry, happy, nostalgic, vulnerable, free, etc. You can also tell nuance on her lines, for example: you can distinguish playful sarcasm (a joke) from passive-agressive sarcasm (resentment), or real confidence from pretence (someone who is still hurt but trying to power through). It's very... Theather-esque, despite it being pop music. And I'm sure this is something she considers carefully while recording the songs. I've heard many better vocalists singing her songs, with different arrangements, but sometimes there's something off... And I think it's when their "voice acting" isn't good, it just sounds off, less expressive, less intentional. It ruins the delivery of the lines.
Zara was incredible singer from childhood but shes out of practice because her songs arent as vocal. But zara has the look, personality, and distinctive voice of a star. Just gotta work on her albums and being consistent with her technique
@asava17 Love me Land was an incredible bop and that video!!!! Wow is...fine I guess lol
Ur profile pic is Morrisette.. right?
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@@maryahwatkinsarchives.5505 Ohh yeah ...I knew her from Akin ka na lang 🎶her voice is heaven nd her vocal abilities are jus speechless like Mariah . But I haven't heard any singles or albums frm her . But I love her soo❤️. much.
Thnks for the link gona listen to her now.
I will always say fuck EPIC. This label is trash
Rihanna is great when she’s not being lazy. She’s been consistent since about 2013 or so
People have high expectations for female singers. Just cuz you're not a vocalist doesn’t mean you can't sing.
he never said that these people can’t sing he said they weren’t vocalist there is a difference.
Being a pop star is not just about being the best vocalist in the world and that is fine. Idk why it’s seen as a bad thing... also all of these people are great singers (maybe someone like Selena would’ve been a better example)
"Great gowns, beautiful gowns.." I want that on my tombstone..
Good i'll make it for you, when is the due date ? 😀
watch katys recent live performances in 2019-2020.. they’re literally SO GOOD. she’s improved so much from previous years.
I really like Madison’s voice, i think she can sing but it’s too early to call her a great vocalist
But she’s good
I’m sorry but in my opinion, Rihanna IS a vocalist. Its not just about hitting the highest notes... girl can SINGGG. Same goes for Zara Larsson, I’ve seen so many performances of her and she never misses a note, such a gifted singer. A vocalist.
She isn’t a vocalist
She isn't a vocalist, she's a good singer, with an amazing tone
Don't be sorry about your opinion, they spend their time beating that dead horse.
I think she's doing amazing with the range she has. And she's a great interpret as well. All these note, this technique won't make you a great interpret that's forsure.
Exactly 💯
Agreed
Dua has grown a lot after her second album release. Now, She's an Amazing Singer and perfomer. For me in Acoustic performances She reveals her full vocal potential. At the beginning of her career was very good in many songs and "so-so" in others. I love the fact that She can hit both low and High notes, with her unique timbre and a bit of lovely raspiness.
True, and there's 2 things to point out here. 1. Just because a singer doesn't show off their vocals every 2 seconds like Ariana Grande does doesn't mean they don't have them. 2. Whoever made this video is speaking from an average listener's POV, he doesn't seem to have the necessary knowledge about vocals.
Loved the videoooo, I don't really think Zara should be on this list tbh, she has good pitch, great high notes, decent lows, her ease is just out of this world, awesome agility, but it's just my opinion, and that doesn't make the video less awesome!
Yep, the others in this video can't take her on vocally.
P.S. I adore your channel ❣
Yeah, I definitely agree with you.
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Agree 100%,zara is an amazing vocalist.idk why she is in this video lol
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“his runs........ exist” dang
Big fan of taylor as a composer but wow her power singing attempts here were stunning!!
It's flat and boring!! 😅
Mhmm
Rihanna is my fave but I agree that she is the epitome of 'good but not that good'. She's exuded a lot of potential in all areas of her voice since her debut and over the years has improved in terms of pitch, nasality, tonal quality, and low notes but has lost some of her agility, comfort, and range. She's very inconsistent live and I think a lot of it is intentional because I feel like part of her brand is having that idgaf attitude and singing in the moment rather than caring a whole lot about how she sounds. I get the appeal of her singing style but wish she took herself a little more seriously when singing live because she really can sound amazing when she's in the zone. But I agree that you don't have to be an amazing vocalist always, what sets Rihanna apart and makes her a successful artist is her instantly recognizable gritty, Caribbean tone that everyone can't get enough of and is where, I believe, the talent lies.
riri honestly has vocal potential but i mean she got her coin and still is so good for her queen and as for zara, i’ve always known she was good but her music (only) sometimes isn’t for me.
I love Rih’s unique tone, she does tend to laze about on stage vocally and physically but when she’s on she’s on, I’m diving into more of her discography just now, I used to question Taylor’s strength on songwriting cuz I only heard the radio hits like shake it off, and lwymmd, but since folklore came out, I wanted to listen to more of her songs, and I’m glad I did, she has much more songs that deserved the popularity that the other songs did. I was just a plain hater.
Katy has a unique tone as well, I actually don’t understand her on this list cuz she always gives her all on stage.
Ed's voice it’s calm and easy to hear. Again, he doesn’t need to be Andre Bocelli
Best vocalists of our time/generation
Christina Aguilera
Beyonce Knowles
Jennifer Hudson
Yolanda Adams
Ariana Grande
Demi Lovato
Adele, Lady Gaga, Tori Kelly and Jojo too
Chloe and Halle
Miey Cyrus needs a nod
You missed adding to Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Pink, Adele, Mariah, Kelly Clarkson, Perrie Edwards and more singers
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_"Great Gowns , Beautiful Gowns"_ one of the Most ICONIC shades of all time 😂
Taylor breaking touring records with her "average" singing ..... clearly high pitch vocals aren't everything lol.
but she is average vocally lmao nothing wrong with that
@@sass_king5576 I'm sorry she's not that good but she is definitely above average. She used to be an average singer until 2013 but since 1989, her vocals have improved so much and is surely better than 'mediocre'. But I understand, because no matter how much she improves, people are always gonna label her as 'average'.
@@bkmishra6524 she’s not above average. She has almost no support, lacking agility, her range isn’t that big, still no stable vibrato 13 years into her career, and more… she’s good but she’s average, you can find better singers in every school choir. However taylor’s voice is unique and she did improve over the years. She’s a very talented writer, probably the best nowadays but she falls short vocally in comparaison but I still like her vocals
Breaking USA touring records with over 70 percent of how shows there not to mention her discounts and free tickets
@@realdavidjones1623 what discounts and free tickets ?!?! 💀
Thank you for making these videos.really helpful i learnt a lot of things from your videos...keep inspire us brother 😎 much love
Rihanna’s first 10,000 hours of practice was all self taught, which makes her the most unique singer performer of her decade and she’s improved over the years. her 2007 live concert in Manchester showed her performing style is like no existing artist, it’s fresh. It’s different but it’s very good. She’s judged harshly because she didn’t get trained to sing like everyone else, but that’s what makes her the one of the most memorable artist today
YEP. lazy is the best way to define rihanna when it comes to her singing. lately it seems like she doesnt even bother.
i feel like if she was inspired enough to want to reach the stars/levels of the liies of mariah,whitney,aretha,celine,patti labell, she would have been probably as impressive as beyonce of course trained. it is very obvious that beyonce is invested into her vocals just as much as her perfomance which is why arguing that she is one of the very very great vocalists doesnt seem far fetched
Honestly, Rihanna, Taylor & Katy have great moments but they just aren’t amazing vocalists or consistent enough. Although, all 3 have massively improved lately.
I’d say Katy can be considered a vocalist as of 2020, she proved herself countless times already
What is "lately" coz we haven't heard Rihanna perform since 2016 and she's been improving since her debut. Rihanna isn't a vocal powerhouse because she does not want to be. She does use technique, it's just not what is commonly considered perfect in the singing community. For example on ANTI (the album where she lets everyone know that She rejects all norm conformity in favour of expressing herself the way she wants to and she feels has earned the right to) she has higher where she's clearly & deliberately straining her voice ( and not just in the climax as with Diamonds to express vocal style, but she's stressing her vocal cords throughout the song ), in love on the brain she's belting, singing in falsetto as well as her head voice transitioning smoothly between ranges, and in James Joint we see her control over her voice, tone & texture. So she's skilled in vocal technique.
Katy Perry is better at everything vocally. Ofc their voice have aged really well but Katy just seems to control it the best. High notes, upper mid belts, falsetto/head voice , chest voice, techniques, support, power, agility and range just goes all to Katy…
" like can you just not step on my gown you need to calm down"
Katy has been more on the good singer category. The problem is her timbre is so clearly "pop" and nasal it takes away from her larger vocals. Similar thing happens with Vanessa Hudgens to a lesser degree.
Katy is the best singer from this video. Her problems is that she doesn’t hear herself quite often and the adrenaline just hit sometimes. People just criticize her vocals for no reason. Let’s argue here if you think differently. Only a few artist sing fully live without any back-up track or auto tune and that include Katy Perry.
YES WE WANT A PART 2 😍
I actually love Taylors voice. She has a really good lower range and a really powerful voice too.
Lmao...powerful?! She sounds struggling to hit some of the notes in her own songs!! 😅
Yep
Props for using accurate and recent references to every artist on here!
Rihanna could’ve done better if she stopped smoking and be consistent with her technique. I remember early in her career she gave decent riffs/runs and belts and it’s worst now bc her voice at that time was lighter and it’s gotten more naturally powerful, stronger and heavier but she’s lazy and smokes too damn much. 😂😂😂😂 I’m low key mad at how much Rihanna has ruined her vocalist potential
The lies you tell
Rihanna says she likes smoking because or the raspiness it gives her voice. I like it
You do know that her smocking made her voice better right??
@@kevinmucyo1665 where did i lie??? go watch videos pre-rated r/loud of rihanna live vocals, she had (and even today damaged still does) a naturally gifted beautiful voice and when she was given vocal lessons by ne-yo, she was growing with her voice, she still struggled however she was giving decent riffs/runs, beautiful belts, good lower notes and her breathing control was consistently getting better.
@@crystalgrace289 i feel the rapsiness in her voice gives an unique edge to her voice and i like it too but from a technique level it horribly ruins her voice and like i said it's worst bc her voice grown to be more powerful, heavy and stronger due to experiences, aging and consistent healthy practices it could've been better
Rihanna literally sounds amazing
And Justin Bieber isn't here, ok. I see
Lol I expected him to be here
I don't think Justin makes the best music. But no matter how much you dislike him, nobody with good vocal judgement can ever say he is a bad singer. He just isn't.
@Eunoia Flowers Exactly! Well said
Nobody said he is bad singer, but sometimes he uses autotune and is not vocalist either
@Eunoia Flowers yeah I think that too
No you're wrong about Ed Sheeran, just listen to his and Beyonce's version of that Stevie Wonder's song in the tribute to Stevie Wonder
Being a good singer does not equate to having a belty voice. There are different types. Has nobody heard of Gabrielle Aplin. Her voice is on the complete opposite of belty. It's extremely pretty and gentle but she can sing.
Ed Sheeran and Taylor are the same. They have a beautiful tone that I could just listen to to all the time.
Zara has a great voice and wide range really but her songs don’t showcase that.
She won Sweden’s got talent at about 9 or 11 years later old singing my heart will go on by Celine Dion.
Katy improved a lot
Compare the Firework at AMAs(the one showed) and at Dear Class 2020
Also,she usses a lot of transitions,and unique vocal cracks which i love(example:Never Really Over at "Takes" on pre-chourds,Rise at "i will TRANsform")
She is so creative and always adds new belts and falsettos)
And yea,also her Higher falsetto(E5-D6),is really good,she studied italian opera,and u can hear it
To me,she is Amazing idk...
I love the selective examples you gave!! I just think you could describe more what they can't exactly do or do 'bad'
Hey man, you r great. Keep making quality content.
Did u saw Katy Perry only love ama's performance?!
Ed and Taylor aren't the greatest singers BUT their music and songwriting is still amazing. I think the same about Harry Styles as well. Most of my favorite music isn't made by the greatest singers. Its more about the lyrics they write, the interest in their unique vocal styles, the story telling in the lyrics, the feeling it gives me when I listen and the sound of their music for me. Personality is also a huge factor even in the music they create. All three of them also play instruments as well, Ed kills it with the guitar. Lastly, anyone that tells you that Taylor Swift isn't talented is a F O O L lol. She's one of the best song writers of our generation.
Harry Styles can sing though.
She always has to use the drama in order to make her songs more popular and that's sad and pathetic. Like when she dropped Bad Blood... and then she says she's a feminist lol
@@JosuePerez-ri2kv a woman having feud with another woman doesn't make her less of a feminist. and both Katy and taylor have made up so i don't see your point lmao
Ed has solid vocals, not sure what you’re talking about
@@JosuePerez-ri2kv the way folklore is smashing without drama even her debut and fearless too and i am sure taylor won't to have enemies in her life also it is not her fault if she told her story in her songs, how it is kind of pathetic?
Why haven't I seen that "don't blame me" clip before, gosh that's all I needed in my life
Listen to Beautiful Ghost by Taylor Swift she can sing..
Taylor did really improve I love her so much!! Specially if it's acoustic and low notes !! Long pond studio session for evermore plsss
I get so annoyed bc Rihanna has so much potential and she's just okay with releasing music and pleasing her fans but doesn't want to progress her voice. She did have a noticeable change tho when she performed at the veterans thing with Eminem I think she got a vocal coach but just doesn't really focus on her voice that much.
The thing I don’t get about Taylor and Dua is that they have immense amounts of potential and skill that they are not mastering. These two haves natural inclination towards musicality but I feel like they lack discipline in training their voices. At Taylor’s age she should have near complete mastery over her voice if she properly training her voice everyday. Her, Dua, and Rihanna have depended too much on their natural talent that has only slightly improved overtime.
Taylor can do with her voice much more than she's showing. I would love to see her do more vocally challenging songs to show the world. Taylor's vocal style is about storytelling, her lack of some skills is not because of not potential or not singing talent, but because she never wanted to be a vocalist, which is quite sad, because she has that much potential. I always when see her, i have a feeling like if she's hiding her voice little bit. I don't know if it's because lack of confidence or just really not interest to be powerful vocalist.