Making a Steam Engine for my Train Game
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L&Y Pug shunts at Castlecroft - 18th June 2022
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Preserved Railway 2023 Narrow Gauge
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Talyllyn Heritage Weekend!
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Scenic Steam Trains to Relax to
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The Falcon Flies
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Double Falcons in the Dulas Valley - Corris Railway Photo Charter 2024
âą Double Falcons in the ... - Hry
Pronounces an obscure railway in wales: absolutely perfect
Attempts to say Railway: takes four tries
:D jokes aside hope your game goes well!
This made me laugh, you deserve a pin đ
Obscure?
"whatever these are meant to be" are the safety valves, they let off excess steam when the pressure gets too high and prevent a boiler explosion. (though boiler explosions are still possible through a crown sheet failure if the water level gets too low)
Nice,I also know about safety valves
Safety valve gang
In the states we call em pop-off valves
@@hamiltonsullivan6563 We call them safety valves too.
Pop off valves usually refer to a specific type of safety valve that "pops" up instantaneously the moment the pressure reaches its max, rather than slowly lifting to gradually release steam as it gets close to the max safe pressure.
@@PowerTrain611 hmmm my bad. Most of the locomotives I've been around are 4-8-4s and 2-6-2s
A little fun fact; When the falcon engines were initially built, none of them had the tracking wheel at the back, so the engines were 0-4-0's to begin with and were later modified to have the tracking wheels, so technically you could have the model in that wheel set up and no one would really complain.
Pro tip: the lamps are interchangeable irl and they actually have meaning
I recommend looking at British railway headcodes to understand what I mean
Narrow gauge railways didn't really abide by standard gauge customs, as the railways were usually much smaller and with a limited number of trains running at once. They were often purpose built to handle one or two different types of traffic so headcodes wouldn't really apply
FINALLY someone knows what head codes are
â@@HorwichWrenTrue, same goes with signals... Some were similar to standard gauge, some railways rolled their own systems, and some didn't use signals at all because they only had one loco in steam at a time.
hi lil!!
I know at least that you have a white lamp at the front and a red-tinted lamp at the back of the train, but I am always needing to learn more
4:22 Sir Handel worked before Skarloey Railway on Mid Sodor Railway. His name on MSR was Falcon.
so sirhandel had 2 brothers and he was combined into 1 out of his 2 brothers
creeepppppyyyyy
âWhat's even weirder,â@@MacsensRailway, is that there was another Falcon Class on the Mid Sodor, named Albert. But his number changed a lot.
@@MacsensRailway Sir Handle arrive to MSR fresh from the Falcon Works.
@@MacsensRailwaySir Handel wasnât said to have had any brothers, besides his âtwinâ, Sir Haydn.
Although the real life history of Sir Haydn is very similar to Sir Handelâs, theyâre not necessarily identical.
Skarloey and Talyllyn, though? Thatâs another story lol
I think it'll be funny if you could unlock a Sir Handel face somewhere and be able to place it on your Sir Haydn, if you so choose.
Or maybe the railway could hold their own little "Day Out With Thomas" or "Awdry Extravaganza" Event.
An alternative face in general would be a cool addition. Doesn't have to be unlockable, could just be a an option you can toggle on and off. Would be cute.
@@actionsam7878 Yeah, that too. It could maybe have different face expressions, myes.
Whilst it would be nice, don't think Mattel would be too happy with that đ
While yes, I don't think Sir Handel would be possible, I think maybe just a face like, drawn with chalk on the smokebox door might look cute
Maybe if youâre able to. You get try and find a way to bypass Mattel smashing you into the ground with a copyright claim. Maybe you could make it really to get the sir Handel version it could be unlocked through a very complicated Easter egg. Or you could maybe do a npc Easter where one of the npcs could become a version of Wilbert awdry and his son Christopher awdry. Who is still alive right now as we speak i think.
You should have an option for a trailing wheel on that sir Hayden model. Last thing I want to ride is a âBucking Bronco,â get thrown out of the cab and into a bush with only my legs sticking out.
Although that would be a funny cut scene.
And get upset and send the engine to the shed just to apologize and give it a massive rebuild
If additional engine models are to be added, I would cast my vote for ffestiniog's Prince. Having a tender engine would add a nice bit of variety, and Duke was always such an interesting character in Thomas & Friends. Just my two cents!
It was also really cool to see this little glimpse into your design process!!!! And even if the Falcon is the only engine available, I'm positive I will ADORE this game when it comes out
Agreed, Prince and Tallylyn are a perfect duo
The fact he called pecketts "pugs", pugs are an entirely different class
Yea yea give him some slack.
And the fact that he called the LY pug âuglyâ. Itâs the cutest engine in the north (and south).
My understanding was that "pugs" were just a nickname given to small stubby industrial locomotives and that the Bear loco was quite similar to others, sorry if I got it wrong!
@@MashUpGames You're not entirely wrong as while "pug" was used in England to refer the saddle tanks from the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway, the term "pug" was commonly used for shunters but all tank engines in Scotland. You'll see this on quite a few Scottish saddle tanks (famously the Caley 264 class).
Pug is just a nickname for small 0-4-0 shunters. Peckett is the builder, not the class. You can very much call a peckett w4 class (the blue Bear) a pug
"I like trains."
Yes. That's it.
Yes
Yes
Me too
What you looking for?
Thank you for not sticking with your original model. Too many developers do just that and say "yes, this is train" without doing any further research.
The fact that you took the time to model an engine that has a real-life counterpart despite having very little prior knowledge about trains shows your commitment to this project.
Far too many others would have taken the easy way out.
I tend to not take the easy way out, for better and (more often than not) for worse đ
2:12 those are handle bars, the side rods go on the wheels to send power to them from the cylinders
No they aint- they are handrails
@@yogabumm sorry, I meant to say that
Choo Choo! Also there's absolutely no shame in using references, just keep in mind that all major artworks: Mona Lisa, Starry Night, etc. all used real life references. It's looking great!
Everyone: âchats about the epicness of steam locosâ
Me: âOMG EMERALD NIGHT IN THE BACKGROUNDâ
the embarrassement I feel after learning the tender was the wrong way round...đ
@@MashUpGameshonestly you should add a feature to create your own engine
If you did that you would be the first person to do that
i love how Edward Thomas and sir Haydn's story of being sold to the talyllyn are straight up retold in the railway series and show, it's perfect to me
If you want to model a Hunslet, then definitely visit the Bala Lake Railway. I'm totally not a volunteer fireman there...
honestly I love there Iâve been there lots of times!
if/when I'm next in North Wales, I'll try to come visit!
Honestly the first locomotive model is what you would usually expect from an indie game like this. I'm glad you decided to go for something a little more *actually exists* :D
Couple of quick things, those bits on the front of the dome are safety valves I believe đ steam collects in the dome before its released i to the cylinders to drive the engine, and those valves are to release steam if the pressure gets too high đ there's also a small business called Iconicrail that's doing a ready to run model of Corris no3 in 7mm scale due to release in the next couple of months! Might be good modelling reference for the firebox!
I'll have to keep an eye out for that model đ
They're only selling direct through Iconicrail, but I have one on preorder and I'm on your discord server, I'll post some pics when mine arrives đ
Fun fact (s): a story in the railway series was actually based off when Awdry accidentally blew the whistle too early. And the Falcon class, that was Sir Handelâs old name on the mid sodor railway.
Second newest engine is the falcon, NEWEST is the Marsh Atlantic âBeachy Headâ
Narrow Gauge railways were also used in industrial areas and quarryâs for example slate quarryâs
Those are meant to be safety valves, they spout steam when the engine has a lot of pressure in the boiler
I'd love to see a single-Fairlie, something along the lines of the now-scrapped 'Moel Tryfan', or the scrapped-and-then-replicated 'Taliesin'. Both are simply beautiful little engines. I remember you saying that the trains in Railway Life would not generally be long, but the narrow-gauge has such a diversity of carriages and wagons that a long line of them behind a fussing, bouncing locomotive is inescapably delightful. The locomotive already made is so delightfully cute!
I didn't know the single-Fairlie existed đŻ though tbf it makes sense since otherwise the double-Fairlie would just be called the Fairlie
@MashUpGames They were more universally successful than the doubles, but less well-remembered. One survives in New Zealand, and the US spun off the design as the Mason Bogie. A Ffestiniog driver recalled them fondly - 'the railways in heaven are run by single-Fairlies', were his words.
Saddle tanks are pretty good, you have good taste. I'm also very relieved to see the valve gear appeared on your most recent version, i was getting worried!
I think if you do manage to make more engines, the second one should be a small diesel. I like the idea of the two trains being very different and easily recognisable from one another. Also some people love diesels just as much as others love steam.
I second this and would recommend a BR class 6, same overall shape as Sir Hayden, but blockier
I'm not a big fan of diesel engines (maybe Thomas & Friends conditioned me to dislike them haha), but I understand a lot of people do like them, so if I do add more engines then I'll consider it
The model looks so good! Thereâs something about narrow gauges that always evokes such a unique feeling of adventure!
4:24 by the way. The Corris Falcons were all built by Hughes Falcon Works in Loughborough hence the name. In the Railway Series, Sir Handelâs original name before he moved to the Skarloey Railway was âFalconâ.
Out of all the narrow gauge engines I seen, Sir Haydn is definitely a favourite of mine (as well as her brand new sister)
A thomas fan
@@06Bride yes I am
Looks very cute! A great update and I cant wait to see more from this project.
This was such a cozy and informative little devlog
I'm really looking forward to seeing more from this game! Hearing that you used narrow gauge engines as reference for the main steam engine also makes me happy. Always love that type of engine than the standard. Cant wait to see more!
Definitely would like to see a Prince and maybe a Tattoo Class added later. Looking forward to seeing more on this project!
This is wonderful!!! đThe train model is coming along great!
just saying right now, this game WILL do good. you have a unique style that im sure many rail enthusiasts will love, and i will most likely get the game too! ive not seen anyone go to a railway solely for a game (which is what i took from this video or maybe i just wasnt paying enough attention lol)
good luck on making ur game!
A neat engine to add would be some American narrow gauge, the Portland Maine engine seems like it would fit the ascetic, another cool one to add would be the eureka and palisade engine!
It always makes me smile when people actually makes good efforts of researching when making game about trains. Amazing works youâre doing, canât wait to play the game! :D
Iâm glad to see the progress you are making.
I think personally you should have the entire Tal-l-ylynn railway fleet, as it provides so many more options, maybe a New England or welsh pony class (Ffestiniog railway engine as you called it) and maybe a little Easter egg to the bluebell railway no. 55 stepney, or no.72 fenchurch
it would be amazing seeing some non-british engines in the (very) far future! a narrow gauge suggestion i have is the D&RGW K-37 class!
Amazing to see the progress so far! Once again thank you so much for taking inspiration from our little line, we can't wait to see more!
"when the rails on a railway" that made me crack but i loved finding out about this game this way
I would suggest making the headlights and nameplates optional features. I also feel like an engine based on Tom Rolt would make a good level 2 engine, and an engine based on the Ffestiniog George England locos would make a good level 3 engine.
If it's possible, workshop support for people to add in their own engines for when the game actually releases would be neat, though I'm happy with just Sir Haydn. Maybe some alternate paint schemes, lining, or the ability to add numbers/lettering, but that's about it.
Heeeeey. I'm a volunteer at the Talyllyn. I'm a trainee guard and a volunteer media creator for big events. I shot that footage of No6 at 3:08 . It genuinely took me months to get as every time I went to that spot something would get in the way to ruin haha.
Hopefully the vids are a big inspiration đ. Can't wait for this game ! It's literally the kind of thing I've wanted for ageeeesss
You captured some lovely footage!!
Great Job! I love the falcon locomotives because of their design, the saddle, medium driving wheels, and the dome all look so good! You did an amazing job on capturing every part of it, once you finish the details then that engine will be amazing!
also if you are looking for an interesting loco design, I would say the double fairlie type loco. They are narrow gauge so they would fit well with the style.
i love how he says that "there are trains all over the world" then proceeds to only show British locos i think this is hilarious not intending to criticis
Went on the Corris railway recently and got a one on one tour of the sheds and restoration work. Also in the process of moving to a village on the Tal-Y-Llyn line, so looking forward to being able to play a game inspired by my local engines!
This looks great! I look forward to the final game!!
I cannot wait for this game, definitely in my top 3 most anticipated games
I have a suggestion if you derail the train (if that's a mechanic), the aounds for a crash are cute noises like squeezing a rubber duck when you run into a tree.
This is just so cool!!
Looking great! You've distilled and captured a lot of the charm of these little locomotives. And, as you say, this is really timely given the recent debut of the Corris Railway's new Falcon.
I won't repeat what others have said about the safety valves. Still, you might be interested to know that Sir Haydn and her Falcon siblings were originally built without those little trailing wheels under the cab - they were a later addition made to correct the tendency for the engines to "bounce" due to the long overhang the cab created at the back of the engine. From the angles you've shown, I think you've just about shortened the locomotive enough to possibly not need them.
The final choice is up to you, but you could maybe make the trailing wheel an aesthetic option that people can click on and off.
Oh interesting, I think I had known the trailing wheels were a later addition but must've forgot
This game is on my wishlist, and I'm so looking forward to it.
If you've kept all your prototype/scrapped engines, I know a fun little easter egg you could do with them.
If you're adding a scrap yard to the game world, you could have them as literal scrap engines scattered throughout the scrap yard.
Randomly just came up on my feed. This is sooo good. Great work so far. Also spotted a Playtonic jacket behind you. Very nice.
Someone noticed the Playtonic tote bag đ
(starts screaming inside) Falcon is missing his back bogey wheels
This was such a great video! and now iâm really excited for this game although i do hope you manage to release it on consoles đ€
An interesting detail, Sir Handels original Name in ttte when he worked on the mid Sodor railway was actually âFalconâ But when the Mid Sodor railway shut down he was bought by the Skarloey railway and he changed it to Sir Handel.
I absolutely adore your little sir haydn model! Its short and stumpy and cartoony in all the right places! (Side note, the bars along the saddle tank are just some simple handrails) If you do decide to add another loco, might i recommend dolgoch? She wouldnt be as large as an edward thomas type but i can see her long wheelbase potentially causing problems on the tight turns. Either way, this game looks lovely!
When he shows the photos of trains most of them are thomas and friends basis
I would honestly adore this game,
And I do love the idea of multiple engines to vibe on. Maybe if I could suggest something like a Terrier, or a 14xx Autotank, some smol bois that wouldnât mess with the scaling too much
LOL the Thomas mk 1.
Jokes aside I think this game looks great and I love to get it when it comes out.
I do have a silly idea for an achievement that could add a face to the engine.
Keep up the good work
The Tallyllyn lives on LONG LIVE THE RAILWAY OF THE HEART OF GOLD
A Hunslet or a Tattoo would be awesome
I'm so stoked by this game.
Trains are cool... nuff said
The final design looks great!
love it!! đ«ïžđ
Iâm loving this game already!!! Also hereâs a tip: I would try and visit the railways that you get inspired by so you may get more inspiration by being there in person!
The footage at 4:05 is my own from when I visited Talyllyn last year! Hope to visit more railways in the future too
Iâve never been so excited for a game to come out!
0:06 The representation of Sir Haydn looks so cool!
By the way, a cool detail perhaps would be to name the train after a fictional Lord or Lady on the island. Sir Haydn earned its name from the original owner of the Talyllynn Sir Henry Haydn Jones. Naturally of course, when Wilbert Awdry wrote his books, SIr Handel (based on Sir Haydn) was named after Sir Handel Brown, the original owner of the Skarloey Railway who in turn was a nod to Sir Henry Haydn Jones.
It might add a nice little bit of lore to your game. :-)
I think you chose a nice train. Sir Haydn is a lovely locomotive. And I like saddle tank engines aswell
In 1:21 these things are called cylinders usually depending on the engine would have them under the farms or on the out side at the front usually tender engines would have these 4-6-2âs or 0-4-0âs (note sry for all these comments Iâm just a big railway fan)
I am so excited to play this game when it comes out
Wow I cant wait for this to come out!
Love to see the Emerald night in the background đ
I like trains.
I like your game.
Keep it up :)
If you add any new locomotives via a buying/upgrading mechanic, I'd recommend putting in the other locomotives on the talyllyn, as well as a few international entries that are the same gauge.
I love how you went full circle on your choice of engine, loving these updates & hoping to see the game come to fulfilment â€â€â€đđ
Also a small request, would love to see some penguins and other animals in the game if u could add them đđ
im hyped!!!
oh my god its so cute i love it-
Beautiful Little Welsh locomotive basis. đŽó §ó ąó ·ó Źó łó ż đ I love the Corris Railway.
5:08 how is this line already out of date đ
Wait, seriously????? What's the newest, then?
@@zeldapix7959 Beachy Head, the Bluebell Railway's new Atlantic
I didn't know about Beachy Head đŻ but also it hasn't started public service yet, and is a standard gauge, so my choice is still the newest narrow gauge operating steam loco in the world đ
@@MashUpGames Fair enough, Falcons are still a very good choice of engine!
I love seeing the progress on this game!
If you want some help with modeling the locomotives and rolling stock, I happen to specialize on that kind of thing, especially narrow gauge stuff. I would love to help out!
Yay more updates!!!
Bro I love that first model you made
This looks great man! Keep up the good work :D
If you want a more open design of the cab, the Falcon locomotives did originally come with an open cab design (the best way I can describe it is that the top back panel with the windows are cut off).
Idk where exactly you can find references for this design but itâs out there!
Corris No. 1 was supplied with a roof, just not a weatherboard. I'd still argue that constitutes a cab
i do have to admit.
a accurate-setting would be actually awesome and cool for a game
along with the locos
Iâm loving this game so far
i just had a idea for the game, what if you could probably add a Loco shop? like you can buy Parts for Engines and Buy engines?
If you ever end up making custom narrow guage locos based on standard guage, I have to specifically ask for one based on Dwarf or her sister Little England built by George England
Cant wait to boot up my new favorite game, whalewray wife!
Love the research and iteration process here!!
BRB changing the store page to Whalewray Wife
I volunteer at the railway that used to be home to bear it was sold of earlier this year it was in a sorry state the saddle tank had rusted through in some places the paint job has been changed to a brown colour to hide the rust and the cab was starting to fall apart
As a suggestion, You should be able to toggle things on the engine/train like giving it the trailing wheels or lower cab
I'm going to be excited for this game because I like locomotives
This is good
honestly I think it would be a cool little detail if we could name our engine, but the default name was "Falcon". Cause like you said Falcon is a cool name for an engine.
side-note: It would be cool if the lamps were customization options.
Just gonna say a tender engine with a big cab is cozy too
For the next narrow gauge locomotive you add into your game I would like to suggest the Denver, Rio Grande&Western K-37 #491
An idea for a train if you want is the tallylyns partner railway in Victoria Australia called puffing billy, the main motive power are Baldwin designed 2-6-2ts
I do still hope to see this game looking like toys or model railway đ
I will have a video in the future to talk about the artstyle (which I'm still figuring out), but my vision is some hybrid mix of model railways and stylised game art, basically a more-stylised model railway
Personally I would add a Double Fairlie Class.
While it is long, they were very good at traversing tight curves and such, but Still. Keep up the Amazing work!
I find Double Fairlies to look quite odd to be honest đ
@@MashUpGames Really? How so?
Welp I went to the awdery extravaganza last week ⊠I saw the real deal . Both of the existing ones at the same time dressed up at sir handel and the other as his brother with an eyepatch ⊠I loved it so much I even bought a lil dicast sir handel to tske with me