Are Warhammer 40k Space Marines Possible IRL? Surgeon Explains Astartes Creation Process
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- In this video orthopedic surgeon Dr Chris Raynor looks at the Astartes Space Marines from Warhammer 40K and Space Marine creation, assessing whether their augmentation process is possible using today's technology. #warhammer40k #spacemarines #astartes
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Hello doc. Pure math says: If every organ addition (19) have 95% to success. 37.74% chance of survival all of that. Almost 2/3 of pacients, "dont make it"...
Absolutely will do. The amount of information you receive for such a novel topic is immense!!
I don't think you realize how impressive it is to make a video on space marines as a non-warhammer channel and actually get positive feedback. 40k fanboys love to tear into anyone that makes the slightest lore misstep
Heresy must be monitored for at all times.
We only follow the will of the God Emperor, if people are not careful Exterminatus could be initiated.
I would recommend you see your nearest Commisar sir. But in all seriousness he is very well researched, and respectful. I tip my Bolter to you Doctor.
Trust me the people online aren't as bad as the ones at the local store here.
I resent my local scene bunch of angry neckbeards that'll have a mental breakdown whenever shit doesn't go like they want...Hope to find a better community soon.
@@shepherdrm8486 unfortunately that is the reality sometimes. Hope you find a good local community soon.
"In 2022, our crops are basically space marines."
And they shall be my finest horticulture, these plants that give of their crop to me.
Like clay I shall mold them, and in the fields of my farm forge them.
They will be of iron stalk and enhanced nutritional value.
In great pesticides shall I clad them and with the mightiest scarecrows will they be armed.
They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them.
They will have crop rotations, agriculturalists, and harvesters so that no season can best them in growing.
They are my bulwark against the hunger.
They are the defenders of humanity's stomachs.
They are my superfoods, and they shall know no drought.
I have too much time on my hands. XD
This had me crying of laughter 😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm saving this, lol.
beautiful.
May the Emperor bless you always...
Love this, 100% going to find an agriworld to stick this on.
Who would've thought back in 2006 that one day this platform would have high production quality videos with _actual,_ real life surgeons, expertly dissecting pop culture for the general public.
Thank you, doc. Your time and effort in making this is deeply appreciated!
Not a problem! 🙏
Its also become a dictatorship censoring channels YT doesnt like. Even channels like forgotten weapons which is a historical channel. CZcams sucks compared to what is used to be.
Underrated comment.
AlkinsGD
-*2005 🤓-
Big props on him actually calling out that Space Marines are meant to be a monastic order aka monks. Most folks don't really seem to remember that aspect about them which in this is really cool to see
Some* some space marines are like that. Most are not, they view the emperor as a man. The best humanity has ever produced but still a man.
That black Templar propaganda getting you all hard an sheeeeet
damn heretic, falling for lorgars propaganda.
the imperial truth held there are no gods, no religion, no monks!
only lorgar with his venomous bile infected the imperium and culminated in the imperial creed
#BlameLorgar
I mean. They aren't. The emperor was very much against that whole sort of thing.
They were weapons. Expendable ones at that. They were intended to be lead by normal men not an isolated society.
@@TehOmnissiah You would have been correct pre-heresy (30k). Post-Heresy (40k), the Eclesiarchy (sp?) has transformed the Emperor into a God figure and the cult of the emperor is not only the dominant religion, the Inquisitors will feeeeck you up if you're not a believer.
@@MastaSquidge See my reply to the other dude from Korea above this one :) It's a Pre/Post Heresy debate. Since this video refferences the 40th millenium, it's accurate that the Cult of the Emperor is a thing. So very much Clerics/Monks.
No way that this video is actually happening.
I know right!!! I'm a Big fan of warhammer 40k , so I wonder if the doc is as well?
I thinks he’s done stuff like this before, he’s definitely a fan
Literally what I thought bro, I fucking want in Send me to the 14th or the 7th Legion 🤟
I have had my fingers crossed he would ever since he did his master chief one
I'm all here for it!
As a Warhammer lore nerd, I am impressed with your level of research, and I think this video was great. Also love how you included Weshammer and Majorkill, good pulls!
Neither one of those two were good pulls. they get to much wrong, especially majorcringe.
I love majorkill such a funny dude
I'm about halfway through the video and already found some pretty bad mistakes:
- space marines are not battle monks (except the black templars)
- primarchs didn't lead chapters, but legions
- until the great stupid ripped the galaxy apart, there was no successfull gene-editing since the 30th millenium (after the great stupid the fvcking squirrel had to pop up... I.WILL.NOT.RANT!)
@@FulloutPostal Yeah, I noticed those as well, but 40k is huuuuuuuge! And this guy is dipping his toe into this massive universe for one tiny aspect of it. For someone who likely didn't spend months researching and reading the books, I think he did well for his first outing. And really, these are minor mistakes.
@@MrCopenhagen113 Well, I can't really take what you're saying seriously, because you ARE Alpharius, or maybe Omegon... no idea if you're trying to be sneaky... maybe you really DO like Majorkill and have tertiary level motives. 🤔
Also, how you gonna lose to Dorn bro, you broke my damn heart 💔
Great video… honestly NEVER expected to see an actual doctor to break down the science of creating an Astartes space marine. Awesome!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Never knew I wanted this in my life until now. Also, mad respect for the in-depth knowledge, it's clear that you researched the topic and know your stuff. 10/10 content man!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The amount of research you would have had to do for this is nuts. Between all the medical stuff and then warhammer lore, that's a huge deep dive.
I'm kinda in shock that basically none of this is news to me. Ok besides maybe the organ 3d printing achievements.
Funny how much you pick up when you are a 40k nerd, got a hold of the correct materials by raiding someone's 40k stash at a college network years ago and at the same time a proud father of an in-vitro baby with a sprinkle of curiosity on top oh and used to watch House MD a lot. It's just staggering the amount of information that a regular person's brain is assaulted with in this post-information age.
It also showcases the capacity of doctors for learning. Dr. Chris is definitely not in his twenties (learning capacity is already in decline). He's also an orthopedic surgeon so most of the subject material is outside of his specialization not to mention the 40k lore which he picks up without a hitch and maybe even more precisely than some channels that are based on 40k lore.
Med school is easy. Astartes lore is Astartes lore.
Good thing we still have about 28,000 years to do the reserach. Plenty of time left.
@@R4KK3SH ehh closer to somewhere around 20,000 years as most of this is using dark age of technology tech and then some extra Emperor research post Slaanesh's fall.
@@tiggerbane4325 yeah that's right. I just made a very rough approximation to simplify things ;-)
One of the organs, black carapace , is basically an organic neural link, it allows the marine to use his suit as a 2nd skin.
Which literally defeats the purpose of having a neural link. You dont get any benefits of having a direct connection to the nervous system. The point of a neural link is to bypass the body's natural information sending limits. One of the many reasons space marines dont make sense and are weak.
It is also implanted by literally skinning the marine and grafting it onto his body before essentially draping the skin back over him.
Isn't it more like a cybernetic implant rather than organic, according to lore?
@@whiskeye7552 it may be. I think there are a few explanations in the books.
@@Paul-cu9lu Effectively, its the equivalent of hooking up specialized USB ports into your skin that connects to your nervous system that directly connects to the power armours synthetic muscles, the electro fibres, to respond and acts as their own muscles, allowing the armour to act in the lore as a second skin whilst able to match the reaction time of a space marine, allowing them to match or exceed the physical response time faster than their actual muscles.
"Are 40k Space Marines Possible IRL" - immediately thinks about Space Marines gaining someone's knowledge and memories by eating a bit of their brain
Well put together and entertaining video, can't wait to see the part 2
maybe not entirely impossible though. eating through the stomach and trying to decipher it after a barrage of stomach acid? maybe impossible.
but if you consider memory to be akin to a hard drive of a PC, and you are a PC marine found your fellow PC marine dead, you could take their hard drive and see what they recorded.
so instead of eating it through the mouth, if the organ took in the brain somehow and prepared it for memory reading i could see it working. this is doubly possible if the brain was modified to assist in being read in the first place.
Really good research into the lore! before Big E made the Space Marines, he had the Thunder Wariors: stronger than space marines but the added organs slowly killed them and damaged their brains. So those trial runs were somehow worse than astartes surgery.
Let's also not forget a somewhat dubious pact with the Chaos gods to get the SM genome stable....
@@Whiskey11Gaming tell me of this pact, lorekeeper
@@callumc2061 There are numerous references throughout the Horus Heresy books talking about the creation of the Primarchs and the "dark forces" used in their creation. In one of the first Thousands Sons book in that series, Magnus mentions "doing something his father did" in order to save the Thousand Sons. He then goes and consorts with the warp and suddenly the Thousand Sons gene seed was stabilized.
Many chapters have problems like this which were stabilized through...uhhh... interesting methods. Space Wolves and the Wulfen, Blood Angels and the Death Company, etc.
If you haven't read through the Horus Heresy books, I'd recommend them! There are a lot of them, but they are really good!
@@Whiskey11Gaming thank you for that!
@@Whiskey11Gaming Plus there's relatively frequent mention from the 4 through their intermediaries of a bargain having been struck that Big E reneged on - I mean, take that with as much salt as you like given the 4's nature and that of those relaying their claim... although Big E's hardly a good and trustworthy guy himself.
The lore, science, and memes were top notch on this one. Kudos to whoever edits these.
Absolutely!
🤣😂i lost it on 22:01.
You’re one of the coolest Doctors on CZcams with some of the coolest videos! Whether you realize it or not, your videos are making a lot of people happy!
Wow, thank you!
@@ChrisRaynorMD
No, THANK YOU! Your videos are awesome because you put so much effort into research and getting things right. Whether it’s Warhammer 40K and researching the lore for the comparisons to current 2022 medical technology so you could make this video or it’s reacting to a Garand Thumb video and you’re talking about real world weapons, I’m always amazed at how accurate everything is. I appreciate that. You know what you’re talking about. You don’t know how many times I see people making videos and they get so many things wrong, but you’re on it! I’m always impressed by how few errors there are. You provide great entertainment and great production value. I can completely nerd out.
@@leroyjenkins4811 I second those sentiments. Top quality content.
@@leroyjenkins4811 why would he react to a weapons channel?
@@MrYjgh
Why would he react to a weapons channel? Think about it. Dr. Raynor is a practicing surgeon with an extensive background in trauma and orthopedic medicine. He’s had to put people back together who have been injured many times. We’re talking about 30+ years here. If anybody is qualified to talk about the damage and the medical procedures it would take to heal someone who’s been injured in such a way, it would be him. Not only that, he’s a very intelligent man who would know about and be familiar with the very latest in cutting edge medical technology. He would also be qualified to talk about theoretical medicine and how close we are to achieving science fiction like breakthrough. It all makes for some very thought provoking entertainment. I, for one, will continue to watch him. Check out some of the other videos on the channel to see what I mean.
One thing that might be worth noting is that there were the Thunder Warriors who were a predecessor to Space Marines and the Primarchs and were actually even stronger but unstable. The big breakthrough with Space Marines was it resulted in more stable superhumans that could be better left to run things on their own if needed. So the Space Marine organ process is probably a refinement beyond the initial super-soldier program.
Also, in order to create the Primarchs which the Space Marine technology is based upon, the Emperor had to go form some pact with the Chaos Gods. Maybe this was more to do with something about their psychic presence or souls, but it is possible that some process in their creation (and therefor in the Space Marine creation) was forever beyond the scope of human technology and required eldritch powers from another dimension to bridge the gap.
ACTUALLY THE EMPEROR MADE A PACT WITH THE CHAOS GOD'S AND TRAPPED FEW MINOR WARP ENTITIES AND MOLDED THEM INTO HIS OWN PSYCHE AND LATER REFORGED THEM (ENTETERED THEM INTO PRIMARCH)
We need more teachers like this guys.
Fun fact! when it comes to the Implant rejections, while there are initial screenings to determine the odds of survival, many aspirants actually get partially through the training only to learn that their bodies will most likely reject the Implants. Most of these people become chapter serfs, aiding the space marine chapter in other ways.
Or the Marines Malevolent find a brand new servitor
Well, there is the trial for the RIGHT of becoming an Aspirant, it's only before the proper training that they screen the Aspirantals.
Would be stupid otherwise
@@entspannter
I mean, the 40k empire isn’t really the most efficiently ran dynasty.
@@J-manli Can't really call it a dynasty, when it's only ever had one monarch ;)
@@MrScovanx I mean, one of the emperors sons is now ruling it.
The Blood Angels Chapter. Once a recruit has been selected for organ implantation (if they survive). All 19 organs are implanted at once. The recruit is then sealed in some sort of bio sarcophagus for an entire year. After 12 months the recruit is then retrieved and is a full-fledged Space Marine, barring any complications during the organ hibernation process.
😳😳 my god lol
Yeah it's so metal. The entire process is so tedious. All the rituals each different chapter has.
That's always fascinated me about the 9th legions maturity process. The downside to this is that the recruit will be assaulted with visions of Sanguinius their father. These may be overcome the mind of the recruit as the psychic potential of Sanguinius' blood floods the aspirant. In successful candidates however a near perfect marine (physically) is made
Yeah it’s funny all they have to do to stop the red thirst or black rage is to stop using sangs blood for the kick start of the organ process but to do so would be sacrilegious…
Let's not forget the fact that the sarcophagus is also literally filled with blood.
Memes, research, and editing are on point. Made the video 10x more interesting.
Lovely video! My friends and I (who are gigantic nerds, along with having a collection of degrees in chemistry, physics and biomedical engineering) believe the process also alters the aspirant's DNA to accept the new organs, seeing as many marines grow into a certain distinct appearance like Blood Angels often having a face structure similar or even equal to their primarch Sanguinius, and how the Space Wolves explicitly have problems with implanting the "canis helix" (a faulty part of the "primarch's legacy" that makes them turn into werewolf-like creatures)
It’s like if a scientist from the dark age of technology came out of a warp portal on mars and started spitting facts to a tech priest
lol very tru!
Adeptus mechanicus: who are you, who so wise in the ways of science.
Not just some tech priest, but a Magos Biologos.
The irony being, he would likely be arrested and executed for tech heresy for his knowledge lol.
Tbh, I feel there's a little too much of that in 40k, especially as it wouldn't make sense as clearly even enginseers and techpreists are used on things like ships in space where resources are random and time limited that they have to be fast effective and know what they're doing. They don't have an ai/stc helping them and so would at least know how the ships components including the gallar field and warp engines work and in that case how to make immateriality from what knowledge they do have in order to be able to repair them. The thing that I think makes it more real is that while they are fanatical also have an understanding that the machine spirit is a weak ai yet choose to treat it as sacred because they are taught that. The wordings that they use re-enforce that but they do understand what they're doing. They still make new ships and probably need to 'innovate' as clearly it is VERY possible since Cawl just did it.
A little correction : Space marines come from the 30k period, the Great Crusade. In the 40k era, we can see that a lot of chapters lost some of their organs like the Betcher gland (to spit acid) for the Imperial Fists. So, over the ten thousand years, there was a degeneracy of the genetic material. It could be interesting to make an extrapolation to see if it's caused by lack of utility or environnemental impact or just deteroration caused by the reproduction method. But that would be a lot of work :/
They couldnt spit acid back in 30k either.
It's their gene flaw
Which sounds a lot better than the fleshchange or red thirst :P
@@Storiaron In my memory, they could but i could be mistaken. It's been years since i read those.
But i think we should make a difference between an organ degeneracy and a general flaw (because of the video topic). Like the Black Dragons chapter have the Ossmodula going rogue for some marines, giving them the claws and horns. I know it's a cursed founding but still.
But Red Thirst, Wulfens and things like that are, for me, not linked to an organ but more on the genetic material given to them.
@@nwarvonhiddenlurf3694 i've read the first heretic a week ago, and a demon mentioned this gene flaw the imperial fists had, so my memory is fresh :p
@@Storiaron what you don’t remember when Horus fought an Ork Warboss with just his poison spit?
Bruh warhammer has so much fucking lore I swear it must take years to learn it all 😭💀
As a 20 year fan of Warhammer I ABSOLUTELY love this video. First of all I LOVE your channel in general (your anime fight/injuries breakdowns being my faves), and seeing you apply real-world applications to the crazy universe of 40k is amazing. Can't wait for part 2!!
Man you absolutely did your homework and knew the lore as well as you did the science, great video, cant wait till part two! 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ChrisRaynorMD was completely enthralled! 40k lore is not an easy one to learn let alone explain in an eloquent way being as dense as it is! enjoyed is an understatement haha always love your videos but this was fantastic! Had to send it to all my 40k friends 😂
As a massive WH40K fan I'm loving the fact that you're even doing this video, but then the memery in the first MINUTE has been amazing.
I literally suggested this video on the spartan one
This is like an early christmas gift. You just made my day doc many thanks
Hope you enjoyed it!
🤩🤩🤩
I too suggested it
@@granpamercer I think we all suggested it lol.
Quite a good job Apothecary Raynor. Can't wait to see the second video, and maybe shall you provide a third one about Primaris as they have 22 gene-seed organs, instead of the 19 ones the Firstborn have.
"How close can we get...", this is all I needed to hear. Liked. Cheers. Best video ever.
Finally, we got some doctors on this important research.
If the fed threw all the money into researching mediicine to make a astartes. I bet we would get there quick. Heck. Even with weapons too. I want a boltgun! Dont care if i got to put it on a tripod.
If you like this video and you want to see a Spartan vs Space Marine comparison, be sure to let me know in the comments!
ABSOLUTELY 😂
This video itself is a gift, thank you, tho knowing the "their rip cage fuses together to become an armour" i can see what the answer will be 😂
That would be nice.
A Spartan vs Space Marine comparison is something I want to see! Please do it! A comparison of the genetic modifications would be awesome.
Yes please
Hell yes! FOR THE EMPEROR.
Would love to see the good doctor explain whether making a servitor or an eversor assasin is possible with modern methods and technology.
There is a servitor rat already. Has been made like four years ago.
Link?
Really nice
Thanks for taking the time to make the video and share it.
My pleasure!
Imagine you're getting anesthetized to go into surgery and you hear your doctor record this in the other room.
"hell yeah" you're probably thinking
Lol "hopefully I wake up with a 3rd lung to filter gas and breath underwater."
you have to start at 10...
As a warhammer 40k fan, I'm astonished that you know more about the production of Space marines than i do. you certainly did you research. love the video
Noice.
Absolutely love this man! Can't wait for the next video, definitely gonna have a look at your other stuff!
Loved the video, loved your skepticism and the citations (please drop them on the video description next time!) while still keeping it fun and super informative! Really appreciate the love for Warhammer.
I love man's ingenuity. Space marines were basically just nonsense thought of by a couple of creative guys as characters in a game and now here we are 30 years later talking about the feasibility of actually making a space marine in real life. Sure we're not there yet but maybe in a hundred years.
Unless there’s a major war going on, surely there will not be enough incentives to make super soldiers like this through a brutal process…
@@kerbodynamicx472 space marines also have faster reflexes, eidetic memories, and are functionally immortal. Imagine what we could do as a society with immortal scientists and doctors
@@SleepySoviet youre forgetting the psycho-indoctrination, we would just get immortal superhumans that would almost surely go mad after living for hundreds of years...
@@SleepySoviet How many years a before "ethics" become boring and old fashioned for them?
@@kerbodynamicx472 The brutal aspect is purely fiction to make the universe sound cool. If technology gets to this point. the more logical approach would be to grow or build a synthetic body with all the prerequisite super human capabilities and or organs and then just transplant the brain some of the spinal column into the new body.
About the dangers of mutations, its weird how in 40K its also depicted many chapters have genetic disorders that have existed since founding and others developed over time,
Some are harmless like the Jet black skin and Albino skin of the Salamanders and Raven Guard and successor chapters respectively, others develop missing organs like the Imperial Fists and successors that don't undergo hybernation and unable to spit acid to the dangrous like the Blood Angels developing mental disorders (the Black Rage and Red Thirst), the Space Wolves that have basically werewolf disorders (mental degredation, increased hair production and development of large K9 teeth and claws), and Pre Fall Thousand Sons that experiences random disorders due to a flawed Geneseed called the flesh change.
I don’t think the Thousand Sons have to worry the flesh change anymore...
@@imthegoat94 yeah note Pre fall/Curse of the Rubric.
I think the Alpha Legion have the ability to go under mutation pretty much at will like a chaos spawn
@@axelNodvon2047 nope they are actually the least mutated and most "normal" of the Chaos Astartes. (They just undergo plastic surgery to make themselves look like Alpharius and Omegon)
@@forickgrimaldus8301 I swear I learned what I said from a really knowledgeable loremaster
God I was high when he charged yelling "I am the uterus!" Funniest fking thing I've ever heard.
I would absolutely love to see more 40k analysis from you. This was an excellent video and I can't wait to run through all the good ones I've missed
This is great. So glad CZcams suggested it. The big E had had a couple of attempts before he created the Astartes. The Thunder Warriors were used during the unification wars. These were proto Astartes and were not as stable, and typically had a limited life expectancy. Also, the Custodes (His personal guard) are handcrafted genetic wonders. Of course, law-wise the Big E is alive now sneaking around in the background of world events, so he has a lot of time before M31 to draw up his plans.
At the present moment, the astartes are looking a bit more viable then we thought. So perhaps the thunder warriors will be a bit more stable then anticipated
@@mercwiththemouthsnewphone6798 Well maybe they might get retconned a bit If someone at GW watches this. However, the Big E still had the Custodes delete them at Ararat. The law being that they were a stop-gap weapon, not designed for longevity.
@@neilcrompton9676
True
I reckon he's pretending to be my boss right now. He's the kind of uber focused bastard with a plan that could invent the Astartes in about 28 millenia if no-one decides to shank him in the next few months.
Some say that in the Present he is a actor that plays a flying super hero and a white haired monster hunter...
it's worth noting that in the later stages, a initiate SM's recovery time is going to be significantly shorter than a un augmented human. That is the point of a lot of the additional organs, to make them better at dealing with and recovering from physical trauma. That's also why SM's are required to stay awake and not have anaesthesia during certain surgeries, to make sure their trauma dampening augments are actually working as they're designed to. By the end of a SM's augmentation process, they are suppose to be able to take major tissue damage and not really find it that uncomfortable or debilitating.
Losing a hand is a paper cut to a space marine
but age 10 seems a bit rough.
@@haraldtopfer5732 It's necessary. The older the recruit, the more likely it is for the process to fail. And if you think the surgeries and what-not is rough, you should read about how initiates are selected and then trained.
@@SomeUnsoberIdiot The Ragnar series of Books detail that process beautifully!
Space Marines recalling the time he had an arm and two legs lopped off ..
"Well let's not be dramatic it was more of an inconvenience than a trauma.. Doc ..😏 "
😏😂
Yeah I'm subbed, didn't even realize the video ends lmao, appreciate the memes and oof pain seeing Astartes again :( keep up the great work doc!
Being a lowly guardsman, I understand about half this video, remembered about 3/4ths but absolutely loved every second! FOR THE EMPEROR!!
there's a TON of chemical, dietary, hypnotic suggestion, "matrix downloads" and such done to the aspirant to help the implants settle and function properly. there's MANY tales of young aspiring marines who had some sort of "unforseen complication" or "late stage implant rejection" that died... usually in spectacular fashion.
Yep, many books seem to suggest that only one in hundred makes it to full Space Marine, i.e. the stage after being a Scout where they get their Black Carapace implanted and are finally seen as a full battle brother.
This was my first introduction to your channel and so far I like what I'm seeing, I might stick around.
So cool. I love your interjectory cuts, they are hilarious. You are a brilliant dude, and I learned a lot about biology from these videos.
Loved this! Science fiction is often a precursor to real technology a la the Star Trek communicator to cellphone, so it's awesome to have someone this educated talking about feasibility. Nice edits, lots of info. Liked and subbed, keep it coming :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Also tablets, if you look at Star Trek they have taste like devices that operate very much like an Ipad or Android tablet does now, touch screen, wireless communication etc. Star Trek really was incredible ahead of its time.
The book 1984s "seashell" over the ear that transmits sound? Headphones.
Just another example
@@korvincarry3268 That's Fahrenheit 451 you're thinking of
@@cacophonousantiquarian8803 very well could be correct. I read them decently close together. Point still proven though, science fiction technology leads to science reality
Dude did his 40,000 research. Impressed. Also, love hearing about CAS9 and CRISPR. My ex was on the team that pioneered that research. Still proud of her.
yo nice
5:10 the edit I didn't know i needed to see. That was hilarious
I am so glad I found your channel. I didn't know I needed it.
Time to explore. Thanks for the videos.
Loved how in depth you went and how you didn’t shy away from the complexities of biology but still made it accessible, really refreshing. Can’t wait for the next one!
As a doctor, the first thing I thought when I saw the video in my recs was "what does an ortho doc know about genetics and developmental biology?" Turns out quite a lot! Really impressed that you actually researched the topics discussed and presented your sources. I even came away with more up to date knowledge about CRISPR than I had going in. Was not expecting that from a 40k reaction video. Well done!
Hard to find people this smart who explain things this easy to understand.
This was something I stumbled onto and its outstanding research and explanation. Well done and look forward to hearing more!
As a 40K fan, this is very interesting and educational. You sir have a new subscriber.
To note though with the aspect of gene modding, the process to create an Astartes was developed by the Emperor and the gene scientists Amar Astarte along with several thousand scientists and was developed for several years, give or take a century or two in what we of the fan base would like to call the crusade era or the 30th millennium. It is also important to note that mankind has achieved a higher degree of technology prior to the crusade era before the imperium was even founded by the Emperor in the in universe timeline known as old night, the age of strife or the golden age of humanity. Much of the technology in the 30th and 40th millennium was rediscovered forgotten and rediscovered again. The gene modification tech might have been included in what was known as an STC (standard template construct) which was a machine or several machines which contained the necessary information to create almost anything that a human would need during the era of old night. To summarize, the surgery and methods to create a space marine would most have likely been more advanced in the 30th millennium with all the trappings if pseudo medical science if the far future including advanced anesthetics. The 40th millennium on the other is a much more backwards and superstitious era where tradition and beliefs are held in much higher regard, hence when a space marine candidate undergoes said procedures without anesthetic since to endure that pain would be seen as a great triumph on his apotheosis from standard man to post or transhuman warrior.
To add more, most candidates do die during the implantation processes.
That's the speculation around it anyway.
well, I always wondered but in universe where warp is a big thing breaking through cracks, it might be actually working power of belief . Like for orcs it works and most likely when big E become full on warp entity it will work for mankind. Like one doesn't become an Astartes if doesn't belive in it or machine won't work if you know, we don't believe in it . And rituals are there to strengthen and connect it .
This is so much more detailed tought into this than I had ever thought I needed. I had never previously considered the need to expand the genome, though I had pondered the viability of psychosurgery for enhancing mental traits desirable in a space marine. But now that I have had this much detail... by the Throne do I need more! :D
That MajorKill clip came as a shock. Talk about the two extremes of 40k lore videos. An actual surgeon and a self proclaimed man child.
Loved this! Your knowledge on the subject is amazing. Can not believe the amount of research you must have done to put this together. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The only doctor to talk 40k IRL
Very entertaining video.
Small observation: the primarchs and the genecraft for the space marines were created around the 31st millenium (30780, if I recall), and it has been over 10 thousand years since then, which is why the warhammer universe "current year" is in the 41st millennium. So if we want to play by the timeline we've got 29 ish, and not the 39 thousand years mentioned in the video, to develop the gene tech ;) Looking forward to the next one.
With all the content covered in this video, I was sure to get a thing or two wrong!
@@ChrisRaynorMD well to be fair, the emp had been meddling with humans for a “long” time. Using all sorts of breeding programs, indoctrination camps, mechanical Augs etc.
@@Docktavion Some of the technology for gene editing might also have been lost from the Dark Age of Technology and re-discovered later.
@@Schnittertm1 100% true. So much was lost, put away or destroyed during the dark ages, AI wars, unification wars, Horus uprising and time in general when data was expunged, redacted, misinterpreted, lost in bureaucracy, stolen, venerated, corrupted etc. its amazing that anything gets done at all these days lol.
Cawl had his own gene warrior, manufactorium techno-upgrade department “lost” for close to 10,000 years…
And only 1-5% of recruits even survive the transformation process.
So a 95% chance of body accepting an organ is unbelievably high in the grim darkness of the far future.
This was masterfully done, the info, the references, the clips, the jokes xD I love it
I'm so impressed by the writing, editing, and overall quality of these videos. You have a new subscriber Dr. :)
So, could we expect a part 3 to discuss the upgrade from a regular Space Marine to Primaris?
to quote Kitten.
"Thats not fucking canon"
I got you covered. Basically a toaster fu***** thought he was better then the Emperor by adding a pinch of Void Dragon in the gene seed. So what is happening now is each time a Primaris scores a kill, a part of the soul is siphoned off to feed the Void Dragon. Mars and Holy Terra is going to get a "Oh FU**" moment. And that is when the Female Space Marines (Sister of Battle who played The Last of Us 2 and thought steroids are cool) show up and save the day.
@@nickvanachthoven7252 it is to me! **tears of happiness knowing lamenters get a break**
Belisarius Cawl becomes the galaxy’s greatest modder.
The proper term for this surgical upgrade is the Rubicon Primaris.
@Dr. Chris Raynor
As a 40K fan, and someone who has thought about what this “could” look like - I LOVE THIS VIDEO!
Looking forward to PT 2.
So happy we managed to bring the eyes of someone with your knowledge to this universe
Happy to offer my expertise.
Awesome of you to do this!!!
About 30 minutes in the past, if you told me there is a video of a doctor explaining the viability of making Astartes in the current year with a splash of Majorkill and Wes, by the Omnissiah I wouldn't of believed you. Great work!
Please please please don't tell me they're in this vid
@@sauceboss9443 its for a good cause lmao I promise. Brief and welcome imo
@@sauceboss9443 Sadly yes.
@@covahredro8370 Why sadly?
I like your approaching with this. You don't conclude how real their augmentation process is, because it's sci-fi. Instead, you talk about how close modern-day technology can achieve it.
The answer better be hell yes! Imagine such a beautiful Imperium... it brings a tear to my eye.
What a cool video!! Really like the idea of this and the editing is brilliant imo.
As a fellow apothecary I commend the the quality of this video and keeping the information accessible. Also, the editing work is excellent.
Oh my God!! Thank you very much doc Raynor for this jewel.
You're most welcome!
10:11 just blew me away.
Thanks, Doc.) Had a very good time, watching your videos. Subscribing right now.
Awesome Editing on top of well informed Lore, awesome Video
Part 2 pls
I appreciate you how serious you took this while still making it fun!
Came to the channel originally just thinking "Oh hey, he covers a few of the franchises im a fan of, neat", and then an examination of Space marine anatomy drops? Love what you do
Awesome video, definitely interested in a deeper dive on the subject :)
awesome video man ! so much energy and passion and plenty of detailed explanations
Greetings from Panther303. I hope u remember my tweet from back in March asking for this. So excited🔥🔥🔥😁
First of all, can I compliment you on your well thought out explanation of not only the workings of space marine biology but of standard human beings as well. Do you think it would be possible to have a discussion on tech priests and how they intentionally replace body parts and organs with mechanical parts?
The flesh is weak
@@markimusmaximus7870 For the machine is immortal!!!
Very informative video here. I love your sense of humor injected throughout. Hearing Carlos at 14:40 caught me extremely off guard; I love it. Putting an oval of your face onto various characters throughout also got me, esp the space marine shouting "I am the uterus!" Great work, man.
Well done sir, this video made my head hurt a bit, but the amount of effort put into this video is immense.
It's happening thanks doc
I'm so thankful for YT to recommend me this channel.
And this delightful doctor with his witty commentary, clever edits and excellent explanations!
I look forward to your content and future prospects.
Really good vid, can't wait for the follow up videos.
The rythme, the jokes, the tone, everything in this video i so perfect! Another great chanel i will be binging
In-depth, understood the lore, perfect dissection and just a classy editing style overall. You're already my new favorite person on this platform doc.
"I AM THE UTERUS!"
No, we are the uterus on this glorious day, brother. Haha
We are indeed
Dr. Raynor, this is my first time seeing your channel, and I love it. Thank you for the content.
The fact this exist makes me so so happy
Yay, so glad you’re finally doing this video, can’t wait for part two!
The how and why these soldiers are so strong is a fascinating topic.
And yes, a Spartan v Astarte video would be awesome too, would love the input!
I remember in the book Rynn's World, Pedro Kantors servant Ramir became a servant instead of a Crimson Fist because his body rejected the Phase 1 Implants. Several of the books in the Lore of 40k speak about Chapter "thralls" or "menials" from rejected Aspirants. So I would assume that Rejection occurs quite often even with the advanced techniques the Emperor and his scientists developed. It is interesting to note that there has been no mention of failed aspirants from Belisarius Cawl's Primaris project.
They were all turned to servitors.
because the whole concept of primaris is shitty. New Space Marines means new money. It wasn't a lore-organic decision to introduce them.
@@haraldtopfer5732 it means innovation. Letting the space marine stagnate as they face superior foes are kinda short-sighted. Warhammer 40k is known to its ever increasing thrope of arms race. Why do you think they have op weapons and op lore to back up their universe?
@@haraldtopfer5732 cope
He’s a legend for using “a that so raven” cut
Top notch editing in this lmao 🤣
Looking forward to part 2 👍
Wow. This is a daunting task you've set for yourself doctor. I appreciate and applaud your efforts to relate such a fascinating subject to us, your humble viewers.
An amazing intellectual breakdown with awesome inserts, thank you so much!
Also always an epic reminder of essentially in a bit over 100 years, we've gone from using beetles as a remedy for treating toothache, to starting of printed organs and improving the technology. Amazing stuff.
Though being essentially a mutilated giant that's brain mushed into a killing machine that doesn't get the sweet vayjay-jay, would suck.
I'm glad to see Majorkill found his way into the video
this was really awesome and informative, cant wait for pt 2