CAR STARTING HARD AFTER FUEL FILL UP / 5-MINUTE FIX
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- čas přidán 22. 01. 2022
- If your vehicle is starting hard, sounds like it’s flooded, or just won’t run after filling up, chances are there’s a quick, easy fix. It will take only two minutes to diagnose the problem, and only five minutes, one tool, and less than $30.00 to repair.
If you car was manufactured in the last twenty years or so, the problem could be your evaporative purge valve. The evaporative purge valve (or just purge valve) is part of your vehicle’s evaporative emissions systems. If the valve fails and sticks open, it can cause some serious, but easily fixed problems.
TOOLS NEEDED: 10mm socket, ratchet, and extension small scrap of paper
TIME TO COMPLETE: less than 5 minutes
COST: About $30 as of Jan 2022
Common Symptoms:
- Difficulty starting after fueling
- Check Engine Light
- Poor fuel efficiency / mileage
We’re working on a 2017 Buick Escalade, and the descriptions and instructions below will relate to that vehicle. That said, if you’re relatively handy, you can probably find the valve and apply the general principles to your situation.
The purge valve is located under the engine cowl, to the right of the engine and behind the battery. It connects to the intake manifold (direct connection), the car’s computer (electrical connector), and to the emissions system (“air hose”).
To test the valve for a “failed open” condition the only tool you will need is a small piece of scrap paper. Remove the electrical connector and the air hose and start the car. Hold the scrap paper against the air hose inlet. If the valve is failed open, a vacuum will be created and hold the paper to the valve. That’s literally it. Yes, you can use a code tester, vacuum pump, and / or run battery power to get more information. But, if a vacuum is produced when the car is started, you’ve got a problem.
In the case of the Buick Escalade the valve is help onto the intake manifold with a 10mm bolt. Removing the bolt will allow you to wiggle and pull the defective valve from the manifold. Installing the new valve is as simple as aligning the bolt hold and wiggling the new valve into the manifold until it “pops” in. Reinstall the bolt and test again. No vacuum should be produced. If you get a vacuum, you have a different problem. A failed valve is the most likely culprit, but it is possible that you got a problem with one of the connectors, the computer, etc., etc. If changing the valve doesn’t fix the problem, you should be able to return the new valve for a refund and simply reinstall the old valve. - Jak na to + styl
Your daughter does not know how blessed she is to have her Daddy showing her how to deal with cars at her young age 😍
Absolutely awesome video! The fact that you have your daughter out there helping you is even more awesome. The internet needs more of this type of content!
You saved the day and a lots of my hard earned money. Great video! Your shop assistant stole the show though. 😄 Always great to see dads and daughters involved in things together. She will always remember that time with you. Dad to Dad, you're doing it right.
Absolutely!
I even got a fuel pump but it's too hard to put in so I laid it on this video
Excellent video. Well taught by Dad and daughter. Impressive!!!
Thanks a million' my man. I did this and it worked perfect. Saved my self $600. That is what one shop wanted to charge to change my fuel pump.
Love the father/daughter. Wish more dads were like this.
Great collaboration! Fun to watch. This just happened to me today at the gas station! I'm clued in. THANKS SOOO MUCH!
Loved watching y'all's video! Reminds me of when my Dad and I used to work on all our cars and trucks.... This Daddy's girl misses him and working with him dearly (It'll be 12 years since his passing on Nov 16th) ! Those moments may seem mundane to most, but they're the absolute best! She will definitely always hold them in her heart 🖤 thank you for showing us about the purge valve! Helps a bunch!!
Very thorough vide explaining where what and how! And great to see a father & daughter collab video like this. Well done!
Very helpful, thank you and your lovely daughter, this has got to be my issue with my 2015 Enclave ad will. Will be doing the same shortly. Update: I completed the repair today exactly how you demonstrated,, worked perfectly - Thank you!!!!
Love the test and explanation, no one else did. Great video for DIYers.
Excellent !
Thank you Maam & Sir !
Awesome video. Amanda is quite the mechanic.
Thank youand your daughter, made me confident myself as a lady can do the same, probably just saved me $500 at the repair shop!
First time watching your videos and I thought you both explained everything and showed everything perfectly. Thanks it helped me fix my wife’s ford edge so now we’re speaking to each other again. Lol. 👍
Thank you. I really appreciate your help in fixing my Enclave. ❤
Great video! Simple and straight forward. Love it with your daughter..(I had three sons..). I had the same problem on a ‘14 Ford Escape turbo..same fix but more complicated…just watched your honey extracting video…Thanks for sharing!
Thank you kindly! Excellent job 👏
Not only helpful but I'm going to try this. Your daughter is lucky. As a woman who worked in s state of the art service center for Honda I learned a lot from the awesome mechanics. Even if small things I've learned I know more than some men lol. She's s lucky girl. I'm only 5' tall and during a snow storm I watched a huge man trying to install new wipers on his truck and he couldn't do it. I asked if he needed assistance and he was a little offended. I asked again and he reluctantly said ok. It took me 30 seconds and he had his new wipers on. He looked at me like WTH. But I learned so much and it really helps. Helping ppl save a little money is awesome too .Cabin air filters, with almost a hundred percent Mark up. RE programming keys which costs so much!!!! Radio codes and such. All small things that ppl pay so much for have come in so handy. Ty for your help and teaching your daughter. I've replaced everything on my car and the last code is an EVAP code. It does everything you said. I'm going to try this today when it cools down. Ty again.
Tell me more about the cabin filters, please.
Great video. Thank you ❤
if the purge valve is bad, it usually sets P0496 code and check engine light will turn ON. You can also check it (off the vehicle) by using a vacuum pump. If it won't hold vacuum, then the valve is bad. You can also blow into one of the nozzles, if air coming out, then it's bad. The purge valve is normally closed until you apply 12V to it.
Man, holy cow. Thank you. Also, just so happened my car is a 2017 Buick Enclave. When the stars align… 😂
Great easy step video! Thanks
Well done thank you so much I’m having an issue with mine when I gas up , it sputter that’s the first thing I’m going to checked and I can check it myself ❤oh my goodness thank you guys 😊
Thank you! This worked for me!😊
Simple fix thanks for sharing
4m 56sec @ 5:33 in the video. Great video and great job with your daughter
Thank you.
thank you for this helpful info !!! y'all are tremendous!!
Thank you sir,my 2015 vw Jetta same problem. I fixed yesterday,only $20 I spend
*"This Lil Nub this Lil Spigget" Took me out*
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing 👍😁
The test works just like you said!
Great video, liked and subscribed.
Good job !!!
Thanks. Saved me money and hassle
Thank you both. Very helpful.
Our pleasure!
Loved how quick and easy it seemed, but wish that the camera could have changed angles to see past your arms ;) Love the interactions with you daughter!
Nice video, and Amanda, thanks for representin' Ripley, WV basketball, lol.
Any time!
Thanks for sharing and good video too
great video thanks
Hey guys, just FYI, you have “Buick Escalade” in your description and I know you’re working on a Buick Enclave. I only say this to help your viewers avoid any confusion! It probably works on a Cadillac Escalade as well.
I don’t want to be “that guy”, especially after such a great and helpful video!
Thank you!
Thank you!!!!
Thank you sir! My 2010 Subaru Legacy 4 cylinder is not starting after fill ups. The purge valve must be the problem - thank you so much!
Best video ever found the problem and fix it just like you said Thanks a million
Glad it helped Mrs. P!
Thanks!....I'll try this on my 2003 Honda CRV (I Hope it takes care of the "Stalling after Fueling" problem)...Thanks Again for the video.
WELL DONE
Thanks
I subscribed just because of your intro, music was cool and everything
Thanks Alex.
great video. way to go daughter😎. i cant wait to do this fix on my gf 2011 enclave
great Video. That's a real team work. I think you should've tested again the vaccum after installing the new valve with that piece of paper, just for educational purposes.. :)
Awesome father
Thank you guys is five minutes and 30 seconds about
Thanks for this video! I have a different Chevy but in principle it should be the same! Can this problem also explain why my cabin smells like liquid gasoline after filling up, and 5 minutes of going down the highway at 70mph
This was good. I changed the canister unit and vent as well. When I went to do the purge. It was in a area I couldn't reach. Now I have to pay someone to do it. 😭😭😭. Good thing its not expensive. But it was annoying on every fill up. It won't start right away. I learned it was the purge. After a new gas cap and canister and vent. Lol. At least after tomorrow ill have a whole new evap system 😆. Being I've already replaced half already.
That's tough man. It's always a balance between what's the most likely cause and what's the cheapest to rule out first. Sometimes you get lucky. Sometimes you don't. Better luck next time my friend.
@@selfsufficientpath as I say to all people like yourself. Keep up with these videos. Because for DIY people that are handy. These help alot. Truck is now fixed and running great. But I am going to go ahead and replace both o2 sensors and MAF as well. That will complete it all. Nevertheless thanks keep the video coming.
thanks for the video❤❤❤❤%100
Is this basically the same for 2010 Toyota Corolla? I don’t have a 10 mm socket wrench unfortunately but would like to fix it myself.
I just replaced ours and it worked but when we took the cover off to do this we notice that something else was not connected, I'm not sure what it is and why its not connected unless its not supposed to be. So I have a silly question...The line with the green tabs you disconnect for the evap valve its behind that. What is this for and Should it be connected? We have a 2012 Acadia
Waooo my aunts car does the same thing and also it is giving me a code related with that valve.so this is a confirmation it is really the problem thank you👍
Great ❤
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I have the same problem with my 2010 kia Rio 1.6 and after replacing the purge solenoid I still have the problem any ideas?? Please and thank you
It’s safe to say that the first thing you always need, is a 10mm socket. The one you’ve been searching for…😂
Always man. Flippin' always.
Good lord man this was so perfectly describe, your visual example was perfect even for a bone head like myself to understand. Great Job! I am definitely liking and subscribing!
In description;
''We’re working on a 2017 Buick Escalade, ...''
''In the case of the Buick Escalade...''
I thought I heard you say Enclave in the beginning,
but didn't re-check, I was looking for the year of
vehicle, though I think you said this is common
with a lot of vehicles, good to know.
I may have misspoke. The one we have is an Enclave.
@@selfsufficientpath
Ok, got it...
I was checking the description
for the year, that's where I found
Escalade. Thanks..
I have a Land Rover Discovery sport and it's doing the same thing after I fill up at the gas pump. When I research mine I believe I was told that the purge valve is behind the right rear tire which I will have to remove and the covering . 😢 How could it be in such different locations? Maybe I should get a second opinion on that location lol
May want to add, also, that if you are one that tends to "top off" your tank or round the gas to the next dollar, you need to stop doing that as well..plays havoc on the purge valve and EVAC.. pump till nozzle clicks, and stop.
Can that valve totally give out and cause a complete no start no matter how many times u try starting car?
just a tip for everyone: before installing anything always test, the new part or item your working on, so you don't have to go back and take it all back apart again,
new parts or aftermarket parts can be defective from factory, and this will save you time and money
-experienced automotive collision repair technician
great video
👋 how to start a fund injection??where you run out of gas??
My car didn't actually Start having problems starting after after fueling up until after I fixed the valve. Any clue what that could be?
So I have a question. I just spent $1800.00 on car repairs because it had trouble starting. It would take about 5 times to start. I noticed it started right about 20 times. However, when I go to the same gas station I always go to and get gas, it starts all over again. Could the gas I am getting be harmful?
What are other symptoms of a bad purge valve??
So this would potentially keep ur car from starting? Would the car still start if u jumped it?
Only the first couple starts most likely
Discompnnected elec=should not be open?
Will a cheap quality purge valve cause this same no start issue? I replaced mine with one from Amazon (thinking it was OEM) and im getting this issue after fillup
Hello...I know you posted this 7 months ago. Did you get another OEM part? Is it working properly now? I'm having same problem. Just put a new Purge Valve in and having same problem. My dad got part at local auto parts store. Any help greatly appreciated.
my car has trouble starting at time but sometimes it dies after start up. it smells like gas after startup. no check engine light no codes. I replaced the fuel pump, fuel filter, both o2 sensors, the map sensor, the mass airflow sensor, the air filter, the spark plugs and the spark plug wires. just had an oil change and still didn't fix the issue. so could the purge valve be the problem or is it the charcoal canister or what could it be? i don't know much about cars.
The purge valve is a possibility. Check the part the way we describe. No point replacing a part that's not bad.
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Thanks did that but still has problem
That stinks. Sounds like it's time for a pro.
My daughter is having this issue with her VW Jetta. Two different mechanics replaced the purge valve. The issue is still there.
Did the stuck open purge valve cause a code to be thrown? Having the same issues but getting no code.
It usually happens that way, try that little test and see if your purge is allowing suction to go in.
@@saulc6701 Thanks, I'll give that a try. When is that line supposed to pull a vacuum? If the tests is checking for a vacuum that assumes we wouldn't be expecting a vacuum when the engine is running
If I remember correctly, I did get a check engine light and a code. It's been awhile.
I have trouble starting after fill up does a cranky repeated sound n then red battery sign comes up … could that also be purge val issue ?
Sounds like it. The fact that it's happening specifically after a fill up is suggestive. So long as the purge valve is easy to get to, should be no more than five minutes to test it.
Exact same problem I'm having..even with the red battery sign coming on. I thought I might need a new battery
Yup mine showed the battery today after gassing up though other times it had not showed the red battery sign.
i'll try it and get back to you
Thank you very much! My hubby recently passed and I'm having to learn these things on the fly and I filled car up and it sputtered when I restarted, I gave it a tap on gas pedal and sounded rough for a split sec. but then was fine and now because of your vid. I'm pretty sure why, God bless you and daughter ❤ I'm subscribing because I'm pretty sure I'll need more info on other issues.
You could have checked for vacuum with new one on and see if that fixed it?
Mine does this but only when it gets cold in the winter.
Having this problem, in addition to many others, on my 2018 chevy sonic and it's hella annoying.. gonna try this and btw I wouldn't recommend this car to anyone at all!
I have one too and like it used to not give me any problems and then one day the engine light came on and then it would have trouble starting after putting gas in it
My car fuel pump takes many cranks to work again If i fill the gas tank full,I hope changing it can fix the issue
Sounds like it could be your issue.
My daughter leaves her car running when she puts gas in it, then it just shuts down, Could this be the same problem? Please and thank you sir!!
great info. not so good camera angle... thanks..
Why didn't you test it to see if it still sucked air before you put the cover back on?
It would help to see you disconnecting electrical connections I could not see what you are doing
So the problem with mines is, after I put gas in it I go to start it up and usually I have to press the gas medal to get it going, bc if I don’t it turns off and it continuously does this for a while. I’ve realized when I’m lower on gas it usually starts right up and has no stalling or idling issues, can anyone tell me why
Did you ever solve this issue? May have gas in your charcoal canister getting sent up to the purge valve then into the intake causing unusual idle.and hard starts or could be just a stuck open purge valve
I'm just ignoring this. It's always like this everytime I fill up my tank.
Is it ok to ignore?
Not really. Most of the time it just starts hard. But you could end up in a situation where it won't start at all. Seems like a big risk for a ten minute fix with a $30-$35 part.
How much is the part ? Thanks
I honestly don't remember. $30-$35?
09 tahoe changed that part still problems starting after getting gas
Only after you fill up?
Why then, is an engine like this
with bad purge valve, hard to
start after fill up, but not when 3/4 or
1/2 full?
Got me man.
@@selfsufficientpath
...great answer, probably no
one does lol. Good to know
about the fix either way ..
If only. Changed my purge valve. Same problem. Car hard to start after fueling. Changed fuel pump 6 months ago with a Bosch, before problem started. Any thoughts? Anybody?0
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