Gymnasts focus on landing exactly where they started, divers need to land far from their starting point to avoid the diving board. These could honestly be considered different types of flips.
Well actually they are considered different types of flips - backward somersault is when you jump up and land at the same spot (ideally) and gainer is when you jump up and forward and do a backward somersault. In short, if you land on the spot - it's a backward flip, land upfront - gainer
As a diver, that's not true at all. You don't want to go forward at all on a reverse, and want to be a foot away from the board. Anything more than two feet and you are losing serious points for distance. The board naturally pushes you away as you jump so you actually have to put considerable effort to jump straight up and minimize the distance away you jump.
As a gymnast turned current diver and current gymnastics coach a gainer in gymnastics and a gainer in diving are the same kind of flip. A backwards salto that moves forward instead of starting and stopping in the same position. Also youre 100% wrong saying we need to try to get far from the board lmao. Divers spend years trying to learn how to get as close as possible to the board without hurting ourselves especially on blind dives like reverses.
as a former diver - no you absolutely dont on anything other than platform, and even then thats only if you’re doing a backwards takeoff and you can get deducted for landing too far away. on springboard all you should be focusing is on height because the board will take you forward regardless
Undoing muscle memory is evident, if a diver stays in place, he won't make it to the water😊 as opposed to gymnast, they depend on being able to land where they left off.
Not true. The board naturally gives you distance, so divers are more focused on staying as close to the board as they can. On a reverse dive, you are walking a fine line with jumping as vertically as you can to counteract the forward momentum of your hurdle and the board, without being so close you endanger yourself.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239but all of divers flips have forward momentum from a standing start. This is just adjusting HOW MUCH momentum. Gymnasts don’t do a flip like this that often. They are either flipping on the same spot or doing a combination with a running start on floor.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239 but you still have to focus on jumping away from the board, yes you shouldnt jump too far but they do practice stuff like this to make sure they dont land on the board
and doing both can screw you up, heard a story of a person who was a diver and a TNT gymnast and he was practicing a new flip and landed with his toes pointed as if in a dive(didnt end well at all...), and to the contrary I who trained mainly trampoline have done flips straight to my back off of the diving board cause on the trampoline staying tucked and landing on you're neck and face hurts a lot more than just staying tucked in water.
I'm assuming the difference comes from the competing intent behind this particular move. While I can do neither sport, if the health of my skull was predicated on consistently moving in a specific direction, i HOPE to be as good at doing so! 👍
I love watching these, it’s like ice skaters vs hockey players 😂 obviously their skills are set for different things, it’s just cool to see what they can do lol
Honestly gainers were one of the hardest skills like gymnastics literally makes it feel like a wall is in front of you. Like no matter what I would do there was absolutely zero forward momentum and I’d land in exactly the same spot
I will say as a diver this makes so much sense that the divers one. What they did to win is something we are very aware of when we do gainers and we actually try to avoid moving out because the board pushes us out. So we know how to not be close be using bad technic
I mean makes sense considering gymnasts are trying to stay on something or in the same spot usually while drivers are basically trying to get away from the spot they started so they don’t smash their head open
I've only ever seen gainers off the beam. And they terrify me to watch. I had not thought about that being a reverse somersalt for divers. Those always scared me to watch too. My gymnastics skill stops with a cartwheel and i can't even dive staright into a pool.
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Gymnasts focus on landing exactly where they started, divers need to land far from their starting point to avoid the diving board. These could honestly be considered different types of flips.
Well actually they are considered different types of flips - backward somersault is when you jump up and land at the same spot (ideally) and gainer is when you jump up and forward and do a backward somersault. In short, if you land on the spot - it's a backward flip, land upfront - gainer
As a diver, that's not true at all. You don't want to go forward at all on a reverse, and want to be a foot away from the board. Anything more than two feet and you are losing serious points for distance. The board naturally pushes you away as you jump so you actually have to put considerable effort to jump straight up and minimize the distance away you jump.
As a gymnast turned current diver and current gymnastics coach a gainer in gymnastics and a gainer in diving are the same kind of flip. A backwards salto that moves forward instead of starting and stopping in the same position. Also youre 100% wrong saying we need to try to get far from the board lmao. Divers spend years trying to learn how to get as close as possible to the board without hurting ourselves especially on blind dives like reverses.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239And if you're diving from a platform and not a board?
as a former diver - no you absolutely dont on anything other than platform, and even then thats only if you’re doing a backwards takeoff and you can get deducted for landing too far away. on springboard all you should be focusing is on height because the board will take you forward regardless
How does Ian lose every single one of these so horribly 💀
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😂😂😂
😅😅😅😂
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I don’t even know anymore😂😂
Undoing muscle memory is evident, if a diver stays in place, he won't make it to the water😊 as opposed to gymnast, they depend on being able to land where they left off.
Not true. The board naturally gives you distance, so divers are more focused on staying as close to the board as they can. On a reverse dive, you are walking a fine line with jumping as vertically as you can to counteract the forward momentum of your hurdle and the board, without being so close you endanger yourself.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239but all of divers flips have forward momentum from a standing start. This is just adjusting HOW MUCH momentum. Gymnasts don’t do a flip like this that often.
They are either flipping on the same spot or doing a combination with a running start on floor.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239what about the 10m platform? No propellement. That's literally like a backwards somersault in tuck.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239 but you still have to focus on jumping away from the board, yes you shouldnt jump too far but they do practice stuff like this to make sure they dont land on the board
and doing both can screw you up, heard a story of a person who was a diver and a TNT gymnast and he was practicing a new flip and landed with his toes pointed as if in a dive(didnt end well at all...), and to the contrary I who trained mainly trampoline have done flips straight to my back off of the diving board cause on the trampoline staying tucked and landing on you're neck and face hurts a lot more than just staying tucked in water.
Thats some dedication, I could never do a gainer
Neither can Ian. Lol.
They’re fun in my opinion only into water or on a tramp (diver btw)
I can’t do them to save my life except on a trampoline
it's not that hard, you just have to practice it
neither could ian😢
Khoi always manages to land so perfectly on his feet
right!! khoi is so precise
He’s black
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@@vicenterebolledo8798 great observation, you might put sherlock holmes out of a job if you're not careful! 🤪
@@annika6592did they mean it as a compliment or insult
early for ONCE also you going backwards is literally just hilarious 😭
Great warmups Khoi!😂
Of course the diver wins. Their skulls depend on that forward motion to avoid the platforms.
Khoi always seems so methodical and thinks his movements through before his attempt. Love the critical thinking
Y'all are probably the physically healthiest group of friends in the world.
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Gymnasts are supposed to land in the same spot as they started
it's a gainer
I'm assuming the difference comes from the competing intent behind this particular move.
While I can do neither sport, if the health of my skull was predicated on consistently moving in a specific direction, i HOPE to be as good at doing so! 👍
Divers gotta clear the board so they are used to jumping behind or forward a lot while gymnasts want to stick it
@@acheronalexander yup!!
The last dude literally jumped back more than he jumped forward from the landing what a humble master at this😅
Khoi looked like he was surprised he went forward at all lol. Y'all are talented lol.
Ian wins for farthest (backwards) backtuck????
Ian is the definition of task failed successfully
I laughed at the guys who barely made any distance, then I remembered I'm 30lbs overweight and definitely can't do a standing back flip.
i'm convinced ian is secretly musty
Honestly, I’d hope that divers won that cause they need to be able to jump out like that 😂😅
I love watching these, it’s like ice skaters vs hockey players 😂 obviously their skills are set for different things, it’s just cool to see what they can do lol
Arun landed in the perfect sojoud position.. lol !
bro the 4th one looks like the footballer Mësut Ozil
Okay but Brenna landed in ALMOST the exact same spot she took off, that was insane
Khoi is always so methodical!
Tried a gainer for the first time yesterday, I landed on my neck. now back and chest hurt
I'm convinced... gymnasts are nice people. 💙
Really impressive for the gymnasts who were able to do it
khoi is like a cat that man is always landing pretty
Khois gainer was by far the most graceful, dude has great height and awesome rotation!
Take into account any of these people pulling off a standing backflip is better than 99%+ of the world that has ever lived.
The 5 was actually my real name
Oops the Ian was my name
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I love that Ian is both an amazing gymnast and also the worst lol
I like how you were grabbing khoi's leg to measure his feet😅
Two of you are best suited for working the beam, landing EXACTLY where you started from! Lol
Where's my Cayenne Peppa?😿
The chalk on the mat is soooo satisfying
Divers are so cool, my favorite part of meets is when we get to sit back and watch them :)
Taylor was done dirty. He actually landed about the line.
how?!?! thats actually crazy
They train for that, otherwise skill is in shambles
They gon hit the diving board if not
I kinda wanna see if the divers can stay where they started when they jumped??
I love how the gymnasts did some recovery rolls, that was really cool
Honestly gainers were one of the hardest skills like gymnastics literally makes it feel like a wall is in front of you. Like no matter what I would do there was absolutely zero forward momentum and I’d land in exactly the same spot
The drawing looks so satisfying
Tried this with a friend a couple of years ago on a trampoline. Almost got paralyzed. Fun times
Every land sounds like the old minecraft TNT sound lmao
Love the narrative arc with the last person blowing everyone out the water ❤
the last guy was slightly behind the starting line and STILL MANAGED TO GET THE FURTHEST?? that shi is crazyy
I’m scared doing this flip cause I remembered doing the farthers gainer flip and ended up landing on my face. 😅
"i went backwards" STILL BETTER THAN MOST HUMANS
"do a gainnnneerrrrr" lmfao all I could think about when I heard it.
Last dude destroyed the competition
I will say as a diver this makes so much sense that the divers one. What they did to win is something we are very aware of when we do gainers and we actually try to avoid moving out because the board pushes us out. So we know how to not be close be using bad technic
Watching the gymnast color wheel was the best for me 😂😂
The last one is just crazy omg
khoi always has the strategizing/practicing before i love it
bro was dicking down the ghost of gymnast’s past
Who knew divers were so good at gymnastics
I was reading DRIVER this whole time lmaooo. I genuinely got surprised, like damn those drivers are pretty skilled 💀
I think I woke up my cat laughing lol
I mean makes sense considering gymnasts are trying to stay on something or in the same spot usually while drivers are basically trying to get away from the spot they started so they don’t smash their head open
Women do Gainer from beam, but often from a few steps.
The first ‘’ ahuh🤕🙋” got me dying whhaah
The gymnasts were so confused 😂😂
Last bro pressed W after jumping with Space bar
Jack stuck the first one. Then went farther than anyone when he realized they were counting SLOP!
Ian understood the assignment but his body did not
Is NO ONE gonna talk about the moan in the beginning 🫣
That last one scared tf out of me
why is it so tempting to eat that chalk
Ian looked so defeated when he said he gave up 😭
That last one was crazy
it’s because the gymnasts are used to landing in the same spot 😭
You can see how the divers launched themselves forward before doing the back flip, that’s how they won.
Last one was insane
They made backflip sound so eazy
There’s a Nigerian in ur midst 😂😂😂 the Jesus at the end hit me 😂😂❤
The last one is the reincarnation of super mario
Okay but the chalk on the carpet was satisfying
Dude, I feel like my toes would be doomed on my first attempt
Thats so interesting that its such a specific skill
The distance Ian travelled is in negative m. 🤣🤣🤣
Bro actually made a voice crack at the start 😂💀
ian your content is amazing and me and my level 5 teammates watch your videos
Ian hit the wrong combo😭💀😂
I've only ever seen gainers off the beam. And they terrify me to watch. I had not thought about that being a reverse somersalt for divers. Those always scared me to watch too. My gymnastics skill stops with a cartwheel and i can't even dive staright into a pool.
The look on your face when you went backwards 😂
That disappointed "alright" vs cheering for everyone else was bad sportsmanship
Ian is just actually perfect with sticking the landing he can't even do it wrong
Bro was doing soudjoud💀
I heard that background music and nostalgia hit me
Jack just SPANKED y'all. Everyone just accept it and give that guy his well-earned high-five.
My toxic trait is watching these videos late at night in bed, thinking i could do better when I've never done any kind of flip in my life
Jack has amazing skills
I can see myself pulling an Ian. Going backwards instead of forward lol
Parkour athletes: hold my beer
Jack must have got the blessing of a magical frog for being able to jump like that
Bro said “alright” at the one girls jump
Obviously divers win. They’ve got the fear of smacking the board on their side
As a muslim, when arun fell on his landing and landed into prostration i laughed way too hard💀
This was a really good video. Fun!
then there’s me that can’t even do a gainer
Then there's me that doesn't even know what a gainer is
@@made-line7627 a gainer is the flip in the video--rotating backwards but traveling forwards
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