How to land a cinelifter? Create a landing PID profile and activate it in flight!

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Errata: "Permanently enabled Air Mode" feature has to be disabled to have Air Mode as a flight mode.
Landing big and heavy drones, especially a cinelifter carrying an expensive video camera is not a trivial task. If you are not careful enough, it will result in jumps on touchdown. The drone will handle it not a problem, but the camera (usually more expensive than the whole drone) will not like the treatment.
With INAV you can build a special rate profile with lowered PIDs and activate it in flight.

[@crank_FPV]

Dude I wish you lived in the USA, we could fly all the time! I could listen to you talk all day!

[@FPVUniversity]

Come visit Poland, it's beautiful this time of a year :)

[@wojciechantoniewicz6302]

I needed this. Thanks Pawel!

[@FPVUniversity]

You got it!

[@fluoxethine]

How? By using optical flow sensor, ultrasonic distance sensor, barometer, GPS and auto-land feature found in INAV

[@adilsongoliveira]

AFAIK, there's no way to activate autoland manually. Which is a shame, IMHO.

[@fluoxethine]

@@adilsongoliveira I'm just trying to irritate Pawel a bit - negative motivation xD

[@adilsongoliveira]

@@fluoxethine Yeah, I wish there was a landing mode as well. As a matter of fact I wonder why this is not an option.

[@BBFPV]

Or you implement the "landing" mode in the mode tab. Yes I am rude, I apologise, again. 😅

[@FPVUniversity]

There are enough "modes" already ;) Yet, I'm thinking about land assist mode indeed

[@Vousie]

@@FPVUniversity I really hope it doesn't do that if you're fairly close to home?

[@BBFPV]

@@FPVUniversity 🤣 sounds great. Right, many modes, I am getting ready to test the soaring mode in the 3 meter glider. I am curious how it finds the angle of attack to avoid a stall

[@Vousie]

If trying to land results in bouncing like this, then there's something wrong with the control algorithms. It shouldn't be "band-aided" by having to manually disable airmode at the right moment or disarm quickly.

[@Terry_Fritz]

I also found enabling RTH inside the trigger distance gives a gentle landing. Can you see any traps in using this?

[@FPVUniversity]

well, if you are below RTH altitude it will climb first :)

[@Tonynux]

Should profile 2 be activated automatically while switching on Failsafe (activating RTH)? Probably not, because that profile could make it difficult for the drone to come back from far away.

[@FPVUniversity]

No, rather not. I mean, it's possible to activate it automatically during Failsafe RTH as logic conditions allow to detect the state, but I would not do that

[@1988gellertgal]

P.S. It's much much easier if you put airmode on a switch and you just flip it before landing and no more bounce at all...

[@FPVUniversity]

It's part of the solution :) Watch the whole video. But Airmode on a switch is not enough

[@carlosah2598]

Hi Pawel y disarm my X8 before Touch earth any way much better your solución anyway... You are our reference.

[@1988gellertgal]

If you land a cinelifter like this you don't need any landing pids and cinelifter eighter..

[@tomaszll4475]

Dobry materiał, mam podobny problem

[@FPVUniversity]

cieszę się, że się podoba

[@tomaszll4475]

@@FPVUniversity Pisałem na e maila do Pana w tej sprawie

[@RhumAndChocolate]

in the 3.03 there is no set profile, how i can do

[@FPVUniversity]

Upgrade to the latest version

[@tinexdFPV]

I think as a beginner you should not fly a cinelifter^^

[@FPVUniversity]

why? They are not hard to fly :) They are only expensive to crash with payload and hard to land ;)

[@tinexdFPV]

@@FPVUniversity more weight, more impact :) if you can't land properly, you don't have the drone properly under control and in my opinion you should just keep practicing.