@@indedgames4359 yeah, but during development of the sims 1 it turned into something better and they saw what aspects of the game the fans liked and expanded on it to the sims 2. Why regress back to the original idea?
Yeah, while it was the original intention of the series.. Maxis did a great job balancing the dollhouse and life sim idea to the point where you could just let things confidently run its course with not much of your intervention! Its the reason why I managed to clock in SO much hours in the Sims 3, just letting things be and getting surprised with how things run. Like oh, I actually met my Sims' soulmate randomly in a restaurant 😭
Imo the problem is The Sims 4 was an unfinished game at the release, and it still is to this date, almost 8 years later. Being able to patch stuff in later has made the developers lazy, as they have no real deadlines to work towards. And then they proceed to make a big deal out of stuff like pools, ghosts and family trees, being free updates, but they should have been in the base game to begin with…
I totally agree! I get mad when people tell we should be grateful and caring for them adding the minimum things so the game can be called sims and make a big deal of things that should have been from day 1
Man, remember even the stuff you'd get with skills in TS3? In TS4 you level your skills to 10, and then what? Nothing. In TS3 you had all those little sub-goals that went along with skills that also gave you rewards. After cooking 75 meals you'll always cook faster. Befriend 20 Sims and your social will never decay with them. And the opportunities that would pop up. Like if you got your gardening up high enough, you could learn to plant hot dogs. Or if your guitar was high enough, you'd randomly get a call to come play a gig and get paid. Things that made it feel worth it to raise the skills. In TS4 I raised my painting skill, so now I can make different kinds of paintings? That's it?
@@danniesimmers22 You could grow eggs, cheese, hot dogs, and steak, and if you did all of that, you'd get seeds for the omni plant, which would grow more of whatever you fed it. Feed it a book, it grows books.
You actually could also become a professional with some skills in the town hall and make money off them, like a fisherman, gardener, inventor and so on. I'm not sure how many skills you could change into a career, but I remember there were quite a few. I think that was a really fun thing also :D.
I miss the memories system. I think that was in the sims 2. You could go to the panel and there was a brief history of all of that sim’s memories like their first kiss, the learned to walk, breakups, marriages, etc.
I also hate to say this, but content creators have some responsibility as well. Many of them buy packs or get early access and promote these game packs on their channels, even if it's a negative review. Not to call anyone out but the number of times I've seen CZcamsrs say "yes this pack is garbage but here are some fun features I do like" just motivates the audience to buy more packs. I get that it's a sims CZcamsr job but at the end of the day, most of them are no better than the general audience.
I agree with all the points you've laid down! My gaming style is actually very close to what you describe as making up stories in my mind, and the built-in storyline aspect never bothered me as much. However, even for someone who plays like me, I feel like ts4 is so empty and boring. It's full of promises that have never been developed to their fullest potential. Whenever I play, I get super tired super quick. Whims make no sense, emotions make no sense, townies with awful randomly generated outfits make no sense. I remember I used to spend hours in ts3, and every new expansion pack made me excited. Now I'd much rather download mods from some talented creators out there than buy anything from EA.
Things i miss and hate about Sims. - Thief randomly breaking into your home and needing to call police. - Diving board as stanadard. - Paths and edges of lots miles away from neighbouring lots, roads and paths. - Glitches... I have not seen frogs or been able to wear glasses in months.
It’ll be “Johnny Long Torso; The Game!” The base game is only the Sim Torso, everything else is DLC, right down to individual fingers and toes… You’ll need the following DLC; Head pak, left ear and right ear paks (sold separately), the classy Nose Option, left and right eyeball (irises sold separately), the mouth mod with Free Gums bonus (teeth sold individually) The Hair pak (literally an individual hair) will need multiple purchases…. And that’s just the *head* the rest of the sims 5 paks follow the same concept. czcams.com/video/tk0i0yTPJBY/video.html
The denyers can stick it, he's telling the truth and nothing but the truth. I knew the sims AFTER ts4. Ts4 is the first sims game I ever played and the only one I still do. When I saw videos on ts3 and 2 even 1, I was so mind blown by the variety players had. So imagine what that's saying if me, who started at ts4, is now bored and has LOW ASS expectations. I couldn't even imagine what people who started at the first game are thinking now.
@@youthfultrait9698 If you want, i know the money you've spended on the sims 4 cant be returned, but try the sims 3, yes its laggy, but with mods it can be amazing! If its too expensive on your country or just want to check it out first, try a pirated version (mr dj's version its what i use, and it installs so quickly!)
My disgust with EA hit its peak with Journey to Batuu. I caved and bought Paranormal stuff, but ever since (January 2021) I haven't bought any content, and I'm not planning to anymore, every pack seems to bring only more bugs. The game is not only shallow, it's broken, and EA are only churning out more content for money and barely fixing any problems (gardening has been broken for years, for Pete's sake). I started playing when the first Sims game came out, and Sims 4 is the most soulless and cash-grabby of them all. A while ago I was so fed up, I rebought The Sims 2 with a few packs on ebay, and I still go back to Sims 3 (and sometimes Sims Medieval, although that's a different concept).
Not only that, there are NO consequences in the game. You could literally cheat on your spouse right in front of them, and NOTHING happens! There's no more drama in the game at all.
I actually play with my own timelines/stories/characters, but they act like this was not possible before 🤨 They did not add something, they took things from the game. Seriously, did they even know the game before they got told to do 4?
Ther Not avting like ther couldnt ther just didnt think it Was that importent but it aparently was so ther now fixing it but ther try to go very far with it and Do it right
It’s because sims 4 was originally supposed to be an online multiplayer game that was meant to invite over your friends, increase your levels and they never meant to implement any features you’d typically see in a sims game. It was meant to be a strictly multiplayer online sims game but after poor performance and Sims City failure they scratched the idea… mid-development… and now we have an unfinished hybrid game. It’s a damn crying shame… I’d recommend you to look up Sims Olympus if you want to continue making videos explaining what happened to this falling franchise you’ll see prototypes and whole bunch of leaked photos and information that will help your research. Love your channel ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Honestly, even if they scratch the idea, the least they can do is to release complete game instead of extreme buggy game. like bruh, i ended up failed my semester because my work project DISAPPEARED. Yes, you heard me, it dissapeared 😑
@@mitacestalia7532 yes! the same thing happened to my sim, he was supposed to be an honor roll graduate but his project disappeared like tf he was so close… 😔😔😔
funny how they pushed EMOTIONS when legit sims 2 and 3 sims had emotions aswell... and even when they premoted that they still did emotions worse then in those other games.
Honestly, the Sims 2 was full of emotions! The needs and aspiration bars were separate, so a Sim could have all their needs fulfilled but still be deeply unhappy. The wants would also somewhat depend on the mood. When a sim was raising a stat or working on a hobby, their wants would reflect that (depending on the personality of the sim), same if they were getting romantic with another sim. Even the animations would sometimes change slightly depending on their mood. Yeah, they might not have had explicit emotions like in the Sims 4, but their personalities, wants, fears, aspirations and mood definitely played a part in giving them life.
Just that those emotions in previous games were actually in the gameplay - while in the Sims 4, they have to be plastered in big font and colors to make us visually believe what's happening.
I’m waiting for this game installment to end and they have a nerve to say there’s more YEARS for it. A year or two is the MAX I’ll allow before i give up all together.
@@niibabez 8 years and we're still talking about this game having potential? It had potential maybe 6 years ago. The game's engine is already out-of-date. And we have been asking, and yet the bare minimum has been delivered (even that is debatable). Seriously, what potential are you talking about?
@@niibabez what potential? milking it even more? this game survived on the name built on the previous titles. changing everything is low-key offensive for the old simmers
@Miss_Ditch yeah, many years to milk the game bc i know the sims is going towards its end date as a franchise 😐 they know players will no longer take their bullshit.
Also the removal of MEMORIES! In Sims 2 you could see the memories of the sims, so you had a record of what happened to them during their lives. The journal/notebook is not a good replacement for that. And they also removed the ability to see who your sim is on the phone with. In Sims 2 you'd see the caller in a bubble of your sim's head, and in the relationship panel the caller would be moved to the front. Now I have no idea who my sims are talking to so I have no idea if I want to cancel the action or let it ride. Anymore, I play sims 2 if I want to actually play with sims and enjoy their personalities. Sims 4 is just a build simulator for me.
I'm so honest when I say the sims 4 relies on mods so much that I go mod shopping literally every time I play the sims 4 to keep myself from getting bored. that should literally NEVER EVER happen. if I made a game and my players said "the game ins unplayable without mods" I would absolutely call myself a failure. Edit: also can we talk about the term "free update"? like BRO YOU'RE SO MONEY HUNGRY YOU NEED TO MAKE A DEAL ABOUT UPDATES BEING FREE?????????
Dude I have played sims 3 and fallout 4 before modding them both and they were still fun as heck. You literally didn't have to mod the game before that to enjoy them. The reason I started modding was because there is so much you can add to a already great game and enhance the experience even more
Another thing that drives me crazy which has been added since you posted this is that they have managed to make the pointless whims even worse by making them "wants". You can't even accept or decline these wants and literally need a potion to reset them. My sims keep on wanting to break up with their partners while having maxed out friendship and romance and it is so annoying. I remember back in sims 3 if you had a relationship maxed out long enough your sims would get wishes to marry the sim or have children with them and it would reward you with lots of life time happiness.
Satch, ngl. I like hearing you low key rant about this game, currently cleaning up and listening. Ugh I do miss the timelines and slight storylines with lure. I’ve created my own storylines and lures.
I swear they need a checklist for new packs to make sure they don't abandon things they introduce. Whims should be on it. Forgot to add a new whim relevant to the new pack? Go back and do that. New aspirations should be on it. Didn't add at least one relevant one for the pack? Go back and do it. Traits. Forgot to add a new trait? Byyyye go back and add that too. Lot traits, likes/dislikes, and club activities should also almost always have a new thing added.
First I was disappointed of Sims 4 because I loved Sims 3 and all the little things in it, but it changed because of really good packs. Lately with all the Kits... I don't get it, it will ruin the franchise if they don't slow down and remember how it started with the old Sims games
Unpopular opinion: I don't think there should be a sims 5 if they can't drastically improve sims 4. For if they can't do that, EA's unfit to create a sequel and they should just call the game CashGrab 5.
Can I just say the photographer freelance career doesn't even work half the time. I've used it recently and it's just broken. Sims don't follow directions and the cameras glitch out all the time
It bugs me that they don't do much with crossplay between worlds. Example 1: When I first bought Outdoor Retreat, I was disappointed to find that there weren't any ways to collect bugs in Willow Creek or Oasis Springs. It could have been near the pickable flowers with an interaction to "Harvest" or "Collect Bugs" Example 2: When I bought Snowy Escape, I had already owned Seasons and I was disappointed when I couldn't make my Sim Kids in Newcrest go sledding in their own backyard when winter came. They could have at least made a small sledding hill object that could be placed in a backyard. Or an interaction to shovel snow but it actually made a hill where the snow was getting tossed.
One of the easiest things they could do to make the game better is just create story lines for existing sims and townies including relationships, skills, etc. It would add so much to the game, although they would probably find a way to mess that up because it would need to include a lot of drama.
TS4 is the only Sims game I can run without constant freezing and lag, so it's got that going for it. I just shove it full of mods and that fills the gaps, but the fact that I felt the immediate need to download mods vs when I played TS3 and only started using them years after I began (and even then only to alter existing features like how full prey makes cats and how many Sims per household) really shows how lacking TS4 is. If I could play TS3 without lag, I probably would've never bought TS4. However, there are so many amazing tools (mod constructor, sims 4 studio, etc) that make it easier to create content for ts4. I'm sure there's stuff for ts3 too, but I never found it when I started looking for mods so I never had the opportunity to try it before I moved on. My point is that the community keeps ts4 afloat, but *they shouldn't have to.*
I think the smooth patch by lazyduchness has helped my game tremendously. I definitely recommend using it, its made my game very smooth and i'm addicted. I've heard using Nraas mods have helped aswell, theres also multiple videos on youtube of people showing how they make their game smoother
with the sims 3, the only mods i have are one that makes randomly generated sims look different from eachother, and one that lets me cancel a sims time off from work
I've recently given up on "making up stories" (although for me it's just more of planning ahead for a sim,), so now whenever a sim decides he likes something because he's happy, I'm going for it, whatever it may be. This game made me so lazy, that I often sit down, direct them to do this, this and that and go away from my computer 5 minutes later. If it wasn't for bad autonomy, I'd probably leave the game to run in the background for hours, checking in now and then.
I've never been one to buy all the packs in any Sims game (and I've played since Sims 1). I always only picked the ones that appealed to me the most. I think I only had Nightlife and Pets for Sims 3. I bough quite a few for Sims 4, but I don't own more than a third of the packs (NONE of the kits), and I only ever bought two at full price, always waited for discounts. But Paranormal was my last buy. I'm just too disgusted with EA to keep throwing money at a company that churns out bad content for cash and doesn't give a rat's arse to fix problems. I like gardening, and guess what, that's been broken for years. It's like buying a car, and when it doesn't drive, instead of fixing what's wrong they're selling you new rims instead, cause shiny....
It sucks so much bc nothing will change. People continue to buy games so they won't do anything and if it under performs they scrap it. Pokemon does the same shit and they won't improve on the things people complain about in that either
I didn't own the Sims 4 when it first came out but saw my friend playing it. I already knew something was very VERY wrong and I wasn't even playing it myself
I only played the Sims 3 before the Sims 4 but I always liked reacting to the things my Sims did and make choices based off of that, but in the Sims 4 they never do anything. I have to do everything for them. I like having them do actually interesting things without my input all the time, what's the point of the full autonomy option if all they do is get water?
my favorite thing in sims 3 was searching for and colecting gems and crystals and even rare flowers. I could have made a living off just gathering and selling off my spoils. Now?... It's just been forgotten and made unplayable.
Omg I love this rant so much lol. I have been a Sims fans since I was a little girl, and when I tried Sims 4 it just.... made me kinda sad tbh. That feeling is still there, it's so lacking and straight up boring, I can play like 1 hour or so and there's nothing else to do
Bro I played sims 4 years ago and briefly experienced it again this month I was SO fucking confused on whims. Where did they go?? Did I hallucinate them?? NO, EA just saw people (rightfully) point it was flawed and quietly defaulted it to off. Wtf. I'm a sims 2 player, I can't play without knowing what the sims want to do
Sims 4 gave us multi-tasking.... LOL. But jokes aside, multi-tasking on sims 4 is something that I cant live without it anymore. Playing back Sims 3 I realized how important is to allow Sims to do more than 1 thing at the same time. Talking and watching TV? Not on Sims 3, hon'. For that reason, Sims 4 has a more fluid gameplay than the other games from the franchise. Last note, I do hope Sims 5 allow our Sims to do a bunch of stuff at the same time, not only talking or listening to music xD
I actually found that after I added a mod that adds two more trait slots for adults, the base game traits are passable with five of them. Now they do not compare to modded traits combined with slice of life and roburky's more personality please, but there is a bit of individuality. It's really sad that I and others have to rely on modders to make personalities matter
I actually started with Sims 4 and I really liked it! Then after seeing a lot of praise for the Sims 3, I bought it with University life and Generations. I fell in love immediately. Sure, the game looks pretty mushy and it can lag a lot, but the game is so much fun. I'm so glad my new pc can run Sims 3 well, because after a Steam sale, I got all the other packs and tried out Island Paradise. It surprisingly runs really smooth and I love the world a lot! Every once and a while I go back to Sims 4 and while there are things I like... it can get boring so quickly. Meanwhile with the Sims 3, I can play it for 5 to 10 hours straight. Sims 4 has a lot of great sides, but it has really lost its potential
Love your videos Satch. One suggestion, maybe try to switch up your backing music video to video, as I keep thinking I’ve seen a video before when I haven’t due to the same backing music. It always being the same is repetitive and my neuro-divergant brain says “zone out” when I actually want to see it!
i was too young to be into the other sims games when they came out. i watched one or two sims 3 lets plays a couple of months before ts4 released and i was excited abt the new game. so i didnt pay much mind to ts3 anymore and i barley knew about it when i stopped caring. i found myself not watching any ts4 lets plays and only watching cas cc videos. i bought ts4 in 2017 and was disappointed. the base game clothes/makeup/hair was ugly and limited. the gameplay sucked and i stopped playing mere hours after buying it. but since i was young, i didn't remember ts3 much and i thought "obviously the newest one is the best, so the others must suck too". around 6 months ago i was binging a ytbr i watched as a kid and decided to rewatch her sims 3 videos, and i was hooked. though i didnt feel entertained from the videos in particular, i loved the gameplay. this sent me full sims crazy lol. seeing the kind of game i wanted the sims 4 to be actually existed brought so much joy. i then binged every The Sims Lore video and every ts2 v. 3 v. 4 video by PleasantSims. and thats what made me buy ts3, i now have 6 packs and around 320 hrs on it. trying to get my hands onto the full sims 2 game. my cousin (24) was a huge fan of ts3 when it released. my obsession reignited hers and she recently rebought the entirety of ts3. the way she describes the excitement she had for pack releases makes me envious lol. people are obsessed with the sims franchise, not the sims 4. most players have been long time fans since 1, 2, or 3 and the nostalgia for the great game they once had is what drives them. its kind of weird and almost ?desperate? people love the franchise so much they willingly and knowingly get scammed but don't care. they actively protest against EA while licking their boots. its definitely odd to say the least.
0:42 Are you joking? The Sims 3 didn’t give us any storylines? It’s the iteration with the most amount of premade families, lore and relationships between them and even world and lot more that didn’t exist The Sims 2.
You can literally CHEAT ON YOUR SPOUSE IN FRONT OF THEM and they don’t care. There is ZERO consequences for anything it’s sooooooo lazy. This whole game is lazy
I stopped buying Sims Expansions since sims 3. I have a hand full of TS3 expansions and that’s if. And for TS4 I only have base game (and that’s cause EA gave it out for free a few years ago so I snatched it up) Right now I’m considering getting cottage living and maybe get to work cause there’s a sale. But i have no desire to spend all my money buying packs. EA are lowkey con artists they way the disassembled aspects of previous games and are selling it piece by piece in sims 4. It’s a scam.
To add on to your point about missing whims, another thing that's generally missing is cross-pack integration. When they add new features, they really need to make sure they mesh with and enhance previous features. The Sims 3 did this pretty well, even with store items. For example, if you own the Bohemian Garden pack, which adds new fruits like strawberries, AND the Indulgent Bakery pack, your sims can use the baking station to make desserts based on the newly added fruits. It's such a simple touch, but it makes the game feel much more cohesive and planned.
I follow a Sims 4 group on FB( the only reason I even use FB anymore) but I love how the Sims team is creating new things but I as well as everyone else would LOVE if they could actually fix the already existing bugs. I'm a console player so buying packs is kinda important for me to have a fun game. I'm terrified to even update my game incase it starts acting up on me( lots of people were having issues after updating yesterday) sadly the 2 kits coming out I actually want. at least the campers kit
@@indedgames4359 I know lol but I meant in general. Especially since it's so expensive to own the full game. Dine out had been out for ages and I know people have told the bugs it has it's still broken, same with wedding stories. I guess( don't have them yet) I will still play and watch sims content tho 😂
Hey, I love your videos! 😊 I've been a Simmer for more than 15 years, and I totally get you on this. I've been addicted to Sims 3, then got obsessed with Sims 2, but then, when Sims 4 was announced, I got all hyped... Just to get disappointed in the end. The lost me when they started splitting the DLCs so much. It's true we all wanna own the full collection, even though we're not gonna play all the content, just for the sake of knowing we could have the full experience if we wanted to. But back then, on the other Sims era, we could buy all the packs they released knowing that we would get something cool within that pack (cuz back in the days each pack embodied many different themes at once). Now, it's just a money-grubbing game. I still hope Sims 5 returnst to its origins... Let's hope for the best. 😪
I don't think every sims game has to have all the exact features and dlc as all the other ones, I mean they're already pretty much the same game gameplay-wise, just with some added content and technical improvements; so I really wouldn't have minded if Sims 4 took out some features BUT only if they replaced those with something else, something better. Which.... yeah, didn't happen, the only really "new feature" was the emotions and those ended up entirely useless, any other new features after the release were shallow and repetitive as well
But honestly I think people are frustrated because it's been far to long for the sims 5 to come out. People are bored because it's the same game for like what 6 going 7 years. People need change people need new. That's why people are all so grumpy even when we get free stuff...they need to release a trailer for the sims 5 soon or the community is going to explode.
I agree with you to be honest. Also, the thing that bothers me so much is that the sims 4 has so much room for development and there are so many ideas that can be added to the game but ea turns a blind eye to them. plus, the whole dollhouse thing isn't a disadvantage for me since that's one of the biggest reasons why I'm still playing it; however, them making a big deal out of it just doesn't make sense not to mention their overly expensive packs (which is why I pirated the game and the DLCs don't tell ea lol) modders and costume content creators are carrying the game on their backs at this point.
Hi Satch, recently found your channel and I’m really enjoying it! I agree with everything you said in this video. I have loved The Sims since the Sims 1. I received Sims 4 when it came out (yes on CD-ROM) for a birthday gift, and thought it was so pretty looking as far as graphics, etc…but it was so boring! So I went back to playing my Sims 2 and Sims 3 games, because they were actually fun! The sims had personality, they weren’t carbon copies of each other, the backstory was interesting, the things you could do with them were silly, crazy, fun…and…I thought, well, maybe because it’s just basegame, I’ll wait for a while, and the good stuff will come…and yes, more packs did come which gave you more to do…with the same boring Sims being able to do a few more activities. It’s not the no cars, it’s not the no zombies (although, I loved zombies, lol) it’s that every household I make, no matter if I completely randomize traits, looks, everything…is exactly the same…I can get a set of Barbie dolls and make up stories for them…but this is a video game with a rich history…and they created a fantastic visual look with more advanced technology but removed any heart and soul from the game. It’s just shallow and meaningless…and for years, I kept thinking, well, this new pack will bring all this cool stuff that will make it interesting…and I just kept buying those packs, having fun with them for an hour playing the new features…and…yeah. So, I’ve rigged up my 2022 MacBook Pro to run Sims 3 and Sims 2, and I’ll go have fun with that. I’m really done with it. When watching simmers do LPs because they’re creative and invent “dialogue” and “emotions” and “storylines” is more fun than the actual game itself…something is very wrong…far beyond the completely unacceptable broken games/patches, etc they continually make and sell with a “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” attitude and just gaslight everyone with “your mods and CC are making it not work!” I’ll watch my favorite simmers LPs because they are creative, entertaining people who are able to basically invent and/or make fun of the gameplay do LPs, and just play Sims 3 or Sims 2 when I actually want to enjoy “The Sims.” Maybe EA will sell the game rights to someone who actually cares for them to do Sims 5 or whatever (yeah, not going to happen.) But, really at this point, just give it up already. Start over with a new core of the game for Sims 5, and actually make it fun…I have very little hope that this will happen, but it is what it is. My frustration has hit its peak, and I’m out.
To be honest I dislike the fact that seasons wasn't part of the game immediately and instead was an expansion pack. It's a feature in most games, not something you literally need to buy access to
The sims 4 went backwards in a lot of things. Features that was in base game was just not there. They also didn’t include features in returning packs were gone it for the better. They also made the game non-open world because they wanted everyone to be able to play but the bugs are still ignored like in Ts3 so what was the point.
I used to be a huge fan of the sims, but EA just ruined the franchise and made it into a money machine... Saddest part is that people are dumb enough to keep buying whatever they release Sims 4 has no substance or character at all. No lore, no drama, no excitement. It's dull. It's just pretty. I droped the game nearly 4 years ago and went back to Sims 2. The expasion packs were soooooo superior and had so much content and gameplay that they were actually worth the money
I think EA, as a whole is becoming the…generation? Of employees who are riding on the coat tails of the creators of their franchises, because The Sims is not the only property of EA receiving this treatment. Madden Football while a niche demographic of fans have had vary long standing fans, just like The Sims. And Just like The Sims each new release is hyped and looks oh so shiny only for players to realize its not even an upgrade from previous games My brother in law, just like many sims fans buys each new release in the hopes that it will be something good, I regularly make the joke that he is in an abusive relationship with Madden. And Madden, just like Maxis, had a vision for the game and the releases he was in charge of where good, but it was actually much shorter lived then The Sims and the horrible releases have been out longer then The Sims started going down hill. I don’t know who at EA got the wild hair up their ass to start phoning it in, because that’s literally what they are doing. They think they are trimming the fat by getting rid of small detail animations, the personal stories of already made Sims and mysteries, literally just letting the date event on the damn game work where you take a date to a restaurant, nice looking food, because it’s all just extra fluff right? And releasing pools and toddlers in packs, while free, just made them look bad, and they had to spend money on those commercials that were hyping each stupid thing up like they are just losing money it looks like. I am sure their are still inspired creators at EA but decisions are being made by people who seem more interested in soaking up more quick money from their long standing franchises then actually creating anything
I think Olympus ruined the potential of The Sims 4, or better yet led to The Sims 4 only having potential but never living up to it. There was and still is so much that can be done, maybe not in The Sims 4 anymore but in future games. And the part about Sims 4 ruining to concept of expression and individuality because they all act the same is how I've felt from the beginning. I think emotions were an earlier hint that everything about the sims as individuals would be for show. I felt the same way with the skin tones update, removing gender boundaries, the pride flags, them adding different foods from different cultures, and now pronouns. It's great, and I don't want to discourage it but the sims are still bland. We can easily give our sims the appearance of individuality but they all feel the same. What about their personalities? SimGuruGrant actually said that the more traits you add the less distinct sims are because the traits just cancel each other out and every sim is vanilla if you have more than 3 traits. As if emotions aren't already canceling traits out and the sims aren't already vanilla in Sims 4. That is my number one problem with The Sims 4 and why I stick with Sims 2 and 3.
this is copied and pasted for the uk government website. You must offer a full refund if an item is faulty, not as described or does not do what it’s supposed to. You have to offer a refund for certain items only if they’re faulty, such as: personalised items and custom-made items, for example curtains perishable items, for example frozen food or flowers newspapers and magazines unwrapped CDs, DVDs and computer software Even in the sims 3 I bought island paradise and kind of regretted it. I wanted a refund but apparently you can get a refund for anything bought on origin except for DLC which again I'm pretty sure is illegal? It might be different in the US but it doesn't make a difference! Its just totally wrong to rip people off like this. I might be overreacting but it does make me really angry.
I uninstalled the Sims 4 months ago but my nostalgia brain kicks in every time they release something new, and I still get the urge to buy the DLC Sims 4 is a horrible game and I don’t hold out much hope that Sims 5 will go back to the best (2 and 3). Sad, because the new generation of players don’t know what they’re missing out. I genuinely think that’s why they don’t sell/re-release Sims 2 anymore - they know we’d never play Sims 4 again
After I bought the base game from the store (pointless) I bought city living and pets. I never bought a pack again. It's horrible. I got all the dlc now though free. ;) not paying for this crap tbh. But I've yet to play it because I have to keep adding mod after mod just to make the gameplay better or even interesting to look at. I just can't bring myself to play sims 4 because it is very BORING.
Sims 4 is such a disappointment.. you literally commented on everything I thought about. Btw I still watch your sims 1 plays and „sims 4 would never” 😂 it’s so relatable…if only sims 1 was revamped 😞
At 3:20... YUCK ! The one and ONLY place that such an outfit could be appropriate in for a clown. That's the Harlequin's outfit. Harlequin is a clown from the Commedia dell'arte. Not having cars wouldn't be so bad if they had introduced some form of public transportation, like busses, metro or trains. Have a metro station in most neighbourhood, have some airports or port, even if only cosmetic. Enter the metro station and you get to travel to another area of the same world, go to the airport or port and travel to another world. Regarding the traits : having three main, or dominant, traits is OK, BUT, there should be place for some secondary and tertiary traits, and more of them. Like 3 or 4 primary traits, 4 to 8 secondary traits, and 6 to 18 tertiary ones. Some reward traits should demand that the Sim perform some action, or complete some quest.
Call me a basic batch - I quite like the simplicity of The Sims 4. Having said that, it’s terribly inconsistent and I’m not even sure it knows what it wants to be. Like it had a format, but is trying to merge it with content that doesn’t quite fit, or work with the game they had created. You can grow and sell crops, but also conveniently sell them in the inventory? And then when wedding stories came out, owning the pack meant that you had NO OTHER OPTION than go through the stress of that mess unless you opted to elope. It gives the option of choice for some things, but not everything and you’re forced to experience new mechanics on the odd playthrough where you might want less of a challenge. Right, gonna get back to- oh, my sim is too sad to do anything. Never mind :)
What I think is disgusting now with the sims is the fact the base game is so empty, they are literally selling things back to you that used to be in the older games base game.. And if you add up the cost of buy every single pack & kit it comes up to £945! how ridiculous is that! what other pc game costs a grand?!
Im honestly quite proud to say that i, an addict, stopped buying sims 4 crap after the whole journey to batuu fiasco. I did get country living because its one of the better packs imo. and i got bust the dust a few days ago, but only cause these two packs really interested me
I agree with you a 1000%. I love the sims and because I love the sims we should be really vocal about its issues so we can have a solution!! I hate what they did to my favorite game and saying nothing but compliments to this game isn't going to make it any better, it'll make it worse!! Thank you for always being so honest Satch, I truly appreciate it!! 😘😘
I'm pretty sure the game is like this cause its basically the scraps of Project Olympus (an online multiplayer game that was scrapped due to the failure of simcity) thrown together with a pretty bow. Plumbella did an amazing video on Project Olympus
As someone who only recently joined the online sims community, I have very little knowledge of past gameplay. The only other sims game besides sims 4 I’ve played is sims 3 pets on PlayStation. It’s so interesting to find out how much im missing out on, even if im not nostalgic for the games
unpopular opinion, but honestly i don't really feel like cars would be a very useful or fun addition to sims 4 as it is now. i'm not saying this because i don't want cars, but because, well. what's the point of them in the current game? you can only load in one neighborhood (or, well. one LOT + it's surroundings) at a time, and barely any of them are big enough to warrant a car because most of the time your sims can just walk anywhere in no time at all (though some of the packs have had slightly bigger maps, but the basegame neighborhoods are teeny tiny) if a map is an entire big town it makes sense to have cars, but in the sims 4 what are you gonna do, drive down the street to the next loading screen? what's the point. i do wish things were different, don't get me wrong, i'm definitely not a fan of how the sims 4 handles maps and neighborhoods and stuff, but that's a whoooole other can of worms.
basically, in order to make cars make sense in the sims 4 i feel like it'd require an overhaul of how the entire game worlds work, and i don't think ea is gonna do that
I agree completely! Plus, the lots are all plain and boring to build on. It looks nice, it runs better on my computer than the sims 3, but I really miss the old setup, lots, characters, and open world.
The fashion photographer is horrid. I wanted to have a landscape photographer freelance career, rather than finding out that I have to have two different lamps for the bloody jobs to work properly. It is sickening the content that was missing from Sims 4. With Sims 2, we said, "Okay, they have new ideas. Excellent!" With Sims 3, we said, "Some of these are new ideas. Okay." With Sims 4, we're like, "WHY ARE WE HAVING TO PAY EXTRA FOR EVERY LITTLE THING!?!?!" Those are still there to purchase, and we change aspirations like underwear to get more points to buy those. I hate the "wants and fears", as they are now called. They are intrusive to my game, and just another way that they hijack MY SIM and MY GAME. And the Vampire pack was shite, because all the sudden half of the conversational topics available were about vampires, just because I added that pack. I wanted the content, not Vlad showing up at every bloody house for every new sim I play. You and I deeply disagree about how to play the sims. I want to design my own sim, but I love some of the random shit that happens, even in Sims 4. The For Rent pack makes someone, a stranger if you don't know anyone yet, call you up wanting to crash at your place. My Secret Agent guy found a best friend like that. This dude called him up wanting to crash at his place. Okay. I want to control my sim, however. I want to make the decisions. You seem to want them to tell you what to do with your sim, because you cannot think of anything yourself. You think that creativity is the purvue of small children. That is not the truth. The Sims franchise gives you the ability to live a life that you cannot, or cannot anymore, or never even want to. Your fantasy is the limit in all of the games, to some extent. That said, we need more content in the Sims 4 for less kaching.
EA has very much been turned THE SIMS 4 from a game to a literal doll house simulation.
Wich was the idea of the sims all along
@@indedgames4359 yeah, but during development of the sims 1 it turned into something better and they saw what aspects of the game the fans liked and expanded on it to the sims 2. Why regress back to the original idea?
Yeah, while it was the original intention of the series.. Maxis did a great job balancing the dollhouse and life sim idea to the point where you could just let things confidently run its course with not much of your intervention! Its the reason why I managed to clock in SO much hours in the Sims 3, just letting things be and getting surprised with how things run. Like oh, I actually met my Sims' soulmate randomly in a restaurant 😭
@@indedgames4359 but as soon it's own creator found that a life sim was much better, that idea was flushed down the toilet immediately
@@indedgames4359 sims 4 went backwards on it, even sims 2 had more complex systems than the autonomy they have now
Imo the problem is The Sims 4 was an unfinished game at the release, and it still is to this date, almost 8 years later. Being able to patch stuff in later has made the developers lazy, as they have no real deadlines to work towards. And then they proceed to make a big deal out of stuff like pools, ghosts and family trees, being free updates, but they should have been in the base game to begin with…
I totally agree! I get mad when people tell we should be grateful and caring for them adding the minimum things so the game can be called sims and make a big deal of things that should have been from day 1
Sims 4 engine were built from cancaled mobile Sims Online game.
Right
"They have no real deadlines to work towards"
Tell us you're a selfish person with no clue how abusive game dev is without saying so.
Man, remember even the stuff you'd get with skills in TS3? In TS4 you level your skills to 10, and then what? Nothing. In TS3 you had all those little sub-goals that went along with skills that also gave you rewards. After cooking 75 meals you'll always cook faster. Befriend 20 Sims and your social will never decay with them. And the opportunities that would pop up. Like if you got your gardening up high enough, you could learn to plant hot dogs. Or if your guitar was high enough, you'd randomly get a call to come play a gig and get paid. Things that made it feel worth it to raise the skills. In TS4 I raised my painting skill, so now I can make different kinds of paintings? That's it?
you can learn to plant hot dogs?!
@@danniesimmers22 You could grow eggs, cheese, hot dogs, and steak, and if you did all of that, you'd get seeds for the omni plant, which would grow more of whatever you fed it. Feed it a book, it grows books.
@@piperbird7193 Wow I've gotta get back on that game! lol
You actually could also become a professional with some skills in the town hall and make money off them, like a fisherman, gardener, inventor and so on. I'm not sure how many skills you could change into a career, but I remember there were quite a few. I think that was a really fun thing also :D.
I forgot it! It was a great feature
They say “✨💫create your own story✨💫⭐️🌟” because they are too lazy to create one themselves
I miss the memories system. I think that was in the sims 2. You could go to the panel and there was a brief history of all of that sim’s memories like their first kiss, the learned to walk, breakups, marriages, etc.
I forgot about that
Sims 2 & 3. Was such a good feature in both of those games so we definitely wont get it for free if at all.
They started doing that again in sims 3 generations
Even when you make your sim the game randomize things that happened in the pass to them if they are young adults probably even teens
It is possible to create memories by taking screenshots and whatever but it seems lame so I never tried
The whole "free update" thing reminds me of being gaslighted in a toxic relationship. Like you should be so thankful I'm doing the bare minimum.
I also hate to say this, but content creators have some responsibility as well. Many of them buy packs or get early access and promote these game packs on their channels, even if it's a negative review. Not to call anyone out but the number of times I've seen CZcamsrs say "yes this pack is garbage but here are some fun features I do like" just motivates the audience to buy more packs. I get that it's a sims CZcamsr job but at the end of the day, most of them are no better than the general audience.
Sims 2 and 3 had Wishes/Wants based on your Aspiration, Sims 4 have Whims based on bee boxes because bees are the true overlords of the Sims 4 game
😂😂😂😂😂😂you killed me
I agree with all the points you've laid down! My gaming style is actually very close to what you describe as making up stories in my mind, and the built-in storyline aspect never bothered me as much. However, even for someone who plays like me, I feel like ts4 is so empty and boring. It's full of promises that have never been developed to their fullest potential. Whenever I play, I get super tired super quick. Whims make no sense, emotions make no sense, townies with awful randomly generated outfits make no sense. I remember I used to spend hours in ts3, and every new expansion pack made me excited. Now I'd much rather download mods from some talented creators out there than buy anything from EA.
and the only way to “improve gameplay” is to use money (aka buying packs)
SAMEEEEE. Same for me in EVERY point you just made.
Things i miss and hate about Sims.
- Thief randomly breaking into your home and needing to call police.
- Diving board as stanadard.
- Paths and edges of lots miles away from neighbouring lots, roads and paths.
- Glitches... I have not seen frogs or been able to wear glasses in months.
The Sims 5 will be one premade sim, one lot, and everything else you would want you'll either have to buy or will be a 'free' update months later.
It’ll be “Johnny Long Torso; The Game!”
The base game is only the Sim Torso, everything else is DLC, right down to individual fingers and toes…
You’ll need the following DLC;
Head pak, left ear and right ear paks (sold separately), the classy Nose Option, left and right eyeball (irises sold separately), the mouth mod with Free Gums bonus (teeth sold individually)
The Hair pak (literally an individual hair) will need multiple purchases….
And that’s just the *head* the rest of the sims 5 paks follow the same concept.
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Legs simulator, because hand simulator is already taken XD.
The denyers can stick it, he's telling the truth and nothing but the truth. I knew the sims AFTER ts4. Ts4 is the first sims game I ever played and the only one I still do. When I saw videos on ts3 and 2 even 1, I was so mind blown by the variety players had. So imagine what that's saying if me, who started at ts4, is now bored and has LOW ASS expectations. I couldn't even imagine what people who started at the first game are thinking now.
Have you thought about swithcing to the sims 2? I'd suggest sims 3 but its still kind of expensive after all these years.
@@queencleopatra007 oh I have. Trust me I have.
I’ve only ever played the sims 4 too, and I feel like I’ve been scammed😭
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If you want, i know the money you've spended on the sims 4 cant be returned, but try the sims 3, yes its laggy, but with mods it can be amazing! If its too expensive on your country or just want to check it out first, try a pirated version (mr dj's version its what i use, and it installs so quickly!)
My disgust with EA hit its peak with Journey to Batuu. I caved and bought Paranormal stuff, but ever since (January 2021) I haven't bought any content, and I'm not planning to anymore, every pack seems to bring only more bugs.
The game is not only shallow, it's broken, and EA are only churning out more content for money and barely fixing any problems (gardening has been broken for years, for Pete's sake).
I started playing when the first Sims game came out, and Sims 4 is the most soulless and cash-grabby of them all.
A while ago I was so fed up, I rebought The Sims 2 with a few packs on ebay, and I still go back to Sims 3 (and sometimes Sims Medieval, although that's a different concept).
Not only that, there are NO consequences in the game. You could literally cheat on your spouse right in front of them, and NOTHING happens! There's no more drama in the game at all.
I actually play with my own timelines/stories/characters, but they act like this was not possible before 🤨
They did not add something, they took things from the game.
Seriously, did they even know the game before they got told to do 4?
Ther Not avting like ther couldnt ther just didnt think it Was that importent but it aparently was so ther now fixing it but ther try to go very far with it and Do it right
However people will still say its shalow becaus they gone use EA cheats tonget it done even though its the most easy way to Do it
I agree, to me at least it feels more as a sims 1.5 than a sims 4, they took so many features that now is just a build buy and cas simulator
@@PDD555with how they didnt even have pools at release it feels more like the sims 0.5 to me
It’s because sims 4 was originally supposed to be an online multiplayer game that was meant to invite over your friends, increase your levels and they never meant to implement any features you’d typically see in a sims game. It was meant to be a strictly multiplayer online sims game but after poor performance and Sims City failure they scratched the idea… mid-development… and now we have an unfinished hybrid game. It’s a damn crying shame… I’d recommend you to look up Sims Olympus if you want to continue making videos explaining what happened to this falling franchise you’ll see prototypes and whole bunch of leaked photos and information that will help your research. Love your channel ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I saw someone on Reddit call the sims 4 “a patchwork zombie of a scrapped online game” and it’s so true
Honestly, even if they scratch the idea, the least they can do is to release complete game instead of extreme buggy game.
like bruh, i ended up failed my semester because my work project DISAPPEARED. Yes, you heard me, it dissapeared 😑
@@mitacestalia7532 yes! the same thing happened to my sim, he was supposed to be an honor roll graduate but his project disappeared like tf he was so close… 😔😔😔
funny how they pushed EMOTIONS when legit sims 2 and 3 sims had emotions aswell... and even when they premoted that they still did emotions worse then in those other games.
Honestly, the Sims 2 was full of emotions!
The needs and aspiration bars were separate, so a Sim could have all their needs fulfilled but still be deeply unhappy. The wants would also somewhat depend on the mood. When a sim was raising a stat or working on a hobby, their wants would reflect that (depending on the personality of the sim), same if they were getting romantic with another sim. Even the animations would sometimes change slightly depending on their mood.
Yeah, they might not have had explicit emotions like in the Sims 4, but their personalities, wants, fears, aspirations and mood definitely played a part in giving them life.
Just that those emotions in previous games were actually in the gameplay - while in the Sims 4, they have to be plastered in big font and colors to make us visually believe what's happening.
I’m waiting for this game installment to end and they have a nerve to say there’s more YEARS for it. A year or two is the MAX I’ll allow before i give up all together.
I think this game has potential if they give the players what they want and not what they think they want.
@@niibabez 8 years and we're still talking about this game having potential? It had potential maybe 6 years ago. The game's engine is already out-of-date. And we have been asking, and yet the bare minimum has been delivered (even that is debatable). Seriously, what potential are you talking about?
@@niibabez what potential? milking it even more?
this game survived on the name built on the previous titles. changing everything is low-key offensive for the old simmers
OMGGG so am i
@Miss_Ditch yeah, many years to milk the game bc i know the sims is going towards its end date as a franchise 😐 they know players will no longer take their bullshit.
Also the removal of MEMORIES! In Sims 2 you could see the memories of the sims, so you had a record of what happened to them during their lives. The journal/notebook is not a good replacement for that. And they also removed the ability to see who your sim is on the phone with. In Sims 2 you'd see the caller in a bubble of your sim's head, and in the relationship panel the caller would be moved to the front. Now I have no idea who my sims are talking to so I have no idea if I want to cancel the action or let it ride.
Anymore, I play sims 2 if I want to actually play with sims and enjoy their personalities.
Sims 4 is just a build simulator for me.
I'm so honest when I say the sims 4 relies on mods so much that I go mod shopping literally every time I play the sims 4 to keep myself from getting bored. that should literally NEVER EVER happen. if I made a game and my players said "the game ins unplayable without mods" I would absolutely call myself a failure.
Edit: also can we talk about the term "free update"? like BRO YOU'RE SO MONEY HUNGRY YOU NEED TO MAKE A DEAL ABOUT UPDATES BEING FREE?????????
Dude I have played sims 3 and fallout 4 before modding them both and they were still fun as heck. You literally didn't have to mod the game before that to enjoy them. The reason I started modding was because there is so much you can add to a already great game and enhance the experience even more
Another thing that drives me crazy which has been added since you posted this is that they have managed to make the pointless whims even worse by making them "wants". You can't even accept or decline these wants and literally need a potion to reset them. My sims keep on wanting to break up with their partners while having maxed out friendship and romance and it is so annoying. I remember back in sims 3 if you had a relationship maxed out long enough your sims would get wishes to marry the sim or have children with them and it would reward you with lots of life time happiness.
Satch, ngl. I like hearing you low key rant about this game, currently cleaning up and listening. Ugh I do miss the timelines and slight storylines with lure. I’ve created my own storylines and lures.
I wouldn’t be playing the Sims 4, if it wasn’t for mods. that’s the only thing that saving the game for most people on PC
I swear they need a checklist for new packs to make sure they don't abandon things they introduce.
Whims should be on it. Forgot to add a new whim relevant to the new pack? Go back and do that.
New aspirations should be on it. Didn't add at least one relevant one for the pack? Go back and do it.
Traits. Forgot to add a new trait? Byyyye go back and add that too.
Lot traits, likes/dislikes, and club activities should also almost always have a new thing added.
Also every pack should come with a new career - active or otherwise. New generations of games should RAISE THE BAR, not lower it.
First I was disappointed of Sims 4 because I loved Sims 3 and all the little things in it, but it changed because of really good packs. Lately with all the Kits... I don't get it, it will ruin the franchise if they don't slow down and remember how it started with the old Sims games
Unpopular opinion: I don't think there should be a sims 5 if they can't drastically improve sims 4. For if they can't do that, EA's unfit to create a sequel and they should just call the game CashGrab 5.
Can I just say the photographer freelance career doesn't even work half the time. I've used it recently and it's just broken. Sims don't follow directions and the cameras glitch out all the time
I agree with 100% I also hate Sims 4 it's just a doll house simulation, It's like it's not a real Sims game, I prefer the Sims 3, I'm sticking with ir
It bugs me that they don't do much with crossplay between worlds.
Example 1: When I first bought Outdoor Retreat, I was disappointed to find that there weren't any ways to collect bugs in Willow Creek or Oasis Springs. It could have been near the pickable flowers with an interaction to "Harvest" or "Collect Bugs"
Example 2: When I bought Snowy Escape, I had already owned Seasons and I was disappointed when I couldn't make my Sim Kids in Newcrest go sledding in their own backyard when winter came. They could have at least made a small sledding hill object that could be placed in a backyard. Or an interaction to shovel snow but it actually made a hill where the snow was getting tossed.
One of the easiest things they could do to make the game better is just create story lines for existing sims and townies including relationships, skills, etc. It would add so much to the game, although they would probably find a way to mess that up because it would need to include a lot of drama.
"everything the sims 4 has ruined"
The video: 15 minutes
Uh oh
lmao
Same video different title… sims 4 is dead, we know but folks still gonna support it and EA/Maxis still getting paid.
TS4 is the only Sims game I can run without constant freezing and lag, so it's got that going for it. I just shove it full of mods and that fills the gaps, but the fact that I felt the immediate need to download mods vs when I played TS3 and only started using them years after I began (and even then only to alter existing features like how full prey makes cats and how many Sims per household) really shows how lacking TS4 is. If I could play TS3 without lag, I probably would've never bought TS4.
However, there are so many amazing tools (mod constructor, sims 4 studio, etc) that make it easier to create content for ts4. I'm sure there's stuff for ts3 too, but I never found it when I started looking for mods so I never had the opportunity to try it before I moved on. My point is that the community keeps ts4 afloat, but *they shouldn't have to.*
I think the smooth patch by lazyduchness has helped my game tremendously. I definitely recommend using it, its made my game very smooth and i'm addicted. I've heard using Nraas mods have helped aswell, theres also multiple videos on youtube of people showing how they make their game smoother
with the sims 3, the only mods i have are one that makes randomly generated sims look different from eachother, and one that lets me cancel a sims time off from work
I've recently given up on "making up stories" (although for me it's just more of planning ahead for a sim,), so now whenever a sim decides he likes something because he's happy, I'm going for it, whatever it may be. This game made me so lazy, that I often sit down, direct them to do this, this and that and go away from my computer 5 minutes later. If it wasn't for bad autonomy, I'd probably leave the game to run in the background for hours, checking in now and then.
I've never been one to buy all the packs in any Sims game (and I've played since Sims 1). I always only picked the ones that appealed to me the most. I think I only had Nightlife and Pets for Sims 3. I bough quite a few for Sims 4, but I don't own more than a third of the packs (NONE of the kits), and I only ever bought two at full price, always waited for discounts.
But Paranormal was my last buy. I'm just too disgusted with EA to keep throwing money at a company that churns out bad content for cash and doesn't give a rat's arse to fix problems. I like gardening, and guess what, that's been broken for years.
It's like buying a car, and when it doesn't drive, instead of fixing what's wrong they're selling you new rims instead, cause shiny....
Th me fact that I paid $60 for a game that was only 30% completed
It sucks so much bc nothing will change. People continue to buy games so they won't do anything and if it under performs they scrap it. Pokemon does the same shit and they won't improve on the things people complain about in that either
Can't agree more about the Pokemon!
I finally found someone who feels the way i DO.
I didn't own the Sims 4 when it first came out but saw my friend playing it.
I already knew something was very VERY wrong and I wasn't even playing it myself
I only played the Sims 3 before the Sims 4 but I always liked reacting to the things my Sims did and make choices based off of that, but in the Sims 4 they never do anything. I have to do everything for them. I like having them do actually interesting things without my input all the time, what's the point of the full autonomy option if all they do is get water?
I dont know why People are even playing this game
2 reasons: mods and cc
my favorite thing in sims 3 was searching for and colecting gems and crystals and even rare flowers. I could have made a living off just gathering and selling off my spoils. Now?... It's just been forgotten and made unplayable.
Omg I love this rant so much lol. I have been a Sims fans since I was a little girl, and when I tried Sims 4 it just.... made me kinda sad tbh. That feeling is still there, it's so lacking and straight up boring, I can play like 1 hour or so and there's nothing else to do
Bro I played sims 4 years ago and briefly experienced it again this month I was SO fucking confused on whims. Where did they go?? Did I hallucinate them?? NO, EA just saw people (rightfully) point it was flawed and quietly defaulted it to off. Wtf. I'm a sims 2 player, I can't play without knowing what the sims want to do
Sims 4 gave us multi-tasking.... LOL. But jokes aside, multi-tasking on sims 4 is something that I cant live without it anymore. Playing back Sims 3 I realized how important is to allow Sims to do more than 1 thing at the same time. Talking and watching TV? Not on Sims 3, hon'. For that reason, Sims 4 has a more fluid gameplay than the other games from the franchise. Last note, I do hope Sims 5 allow our Sims to do a bunch of stuff at the same time, not only talking or listening to music xD
I actually found that after I added a mod that adds two more trait slots for adults, the base game traits are passable with five of them. Now they do not compare to modded traits combined with slice of life and roburky's more personality please, but there is a bit of individuality. It's really sad that I and others have to rely on modders to make personalities matter
I actually started with Sims 4 and I really liked it! Then after seeing a lot of praise for the Sims 3, I bought it with University life and Generations. I fell in love immediately. Sure, the game looks pretty mushy and it can lag a lot, but the game is so much fun. I'm so glad my new pc can run Sims 3 well, because after a Steam sale, I got all the other packs and tried out Island Paradise. It surprisingly runs really smooth and I love the world a lot! Every once and a while I go back to Sims 4 and while there are things I like... it can get boring so quickly. Meanwhile with the Sims 3, I can play it for 5 to 10 hours straight. Sims 4 has a lot of great sides, but it has really lost its potential
Try Sims 2.
Love your videos Satch. One suggestion, maybe try to switch up your backing music video to video, as I keep thinking I’ve seen a video before when I haven’t due to the same backing music. It always being the same is repetitive and my neuro-divergant brain says “zone out” when I actually want to see it!
Im sorry but how tf Sims 3 has no story?????
i was too young to be into the other sims games when they came out. i watched one or two sims 3 lets plays a couple of months before ts4 released and i was excited abt the new game. so i didnt pay much mind to ts3 anymore and i barley knew about it when i stopped caring.
i found myself not watching any ts4 lets plays and only watching cas cc videos. i bought ts4 in 2017 and was disappointed. the base game clothes/makeup/hair was ugly and limited. the gameplay sucked and i stopped playing mere hours after buying it. but since i was young, i didn't remember ts3 much and i thought "obviously the newest one is the best, so the others must suck too".
around 6 months ago i was binging a ytbr i watched as a kid and decided to rewatch her sims 3 videos, and i was hooked. though i didnt feel entertained from the videos in particular, i loved the gameplay. this sent me full sims crazy lol. seeing the kind of game i wanted the sims 4 to be actually existed brought so much joy. i then binged every The Sims Lore video and every ts2 v. 3 v. 4 video by PleasantSims. and thats what made me buy ts3, i now have 6 packs and around 320 hrs on it. trying to get my hands onto the full sims 2 game.
my cousin (24) was a huge fan of ts3 when it released. my obsession reignited hers and she recently rebought the entirety of ts3. the way she describes the excitement she had for pack releases makes me envious lol.
people are obsessed with the sims franchise, not the sims 4. most players have been long time fans since 1, 2, or 3 and the nostalgia for the great game they once had is what drives them. its kind of weird and almost ?desperate? people love the franchise so much they willingly and knowingly get scammed but don't care. they actively protest against EA while licking their boots. its definitely odd to say the least.
I'm so glad I just got the Sims2.
I see now that the Sims 4 is just a stripped down "Barbies and Building" game with new graphics. Nothing more.
0:42 Are you joking? The Sims 3 didn’t give us any storylines? It’s the iteration with the most amount of premade families, lore and relationships between them and even world and lot more that didn’t exist The Sims 2.
i'm sorry if this is a silly question but did you happen to use Fable's soundtrack in this video? it feels very nostalgic to me
You can literally CHEAT ON YOUR SPOUSE IN FRONT OF THEM and they don’t care. There is ZERO consequences for anything it’s sooooooo lazy. This whole game is lazy
I stopped buying Sims Expansions since sims 3. I have a hand full of TS3 expansions and that’s if.
And for TS4 I only have base game (and that’s cause EA gave it out for free a few years ago so I snatched it up) Right now I’m considering getting cottage living and maybe get to work cause there’s a sale. But i have no desire to spend all my money buying packs.
EA are lowkey con artists they way the disassembled aspects of previous games and are selling it piece by piece in sims 4. It’s a scam.
To add on to your point about missing whims, another thing that's generally missing is cross-pack integration. When they add new features, they really need to make sure they mesh with and enhance previous features. The Sims 3 did this pretty well, even with store items. For example, if you own the Bohemian Garden pack, which adds new fruits like strawberries, AND the Indulgent Bakery pack, your sims can use the baking station to make desserts based on the newly added fruits. It's such a simple touch, but it makes the game feel much more cohesive and planned.
Where can I download it please?
it's even worse now you do not wanna do that trust me lmao.
I follow a Sims 4 group on FB( the only reason I even use FB anymore) but I love how the Sims team is creating new things but I as well as everyone else would LOVE if they could actually fix the already existing bugs. I'm a console player so buying packs is kinda important for me to have a fun game. I'm terrified to even update my game incase it starts acting up on me( lots of people were having issues after updating yesterday) sadly the 2 kits coming out I actually want. at least the campers kit
Ther aculy Do fix things......
@@indedgames4359 I know lol but I meant in general. Especially since it's so expensive to own the full game. Dine out had been out for ages and I know people have told the bugs it has it's still broken, same with wedding stories. I guess( don't have them yet) I will still play and watch sims content tho 😂
Hey, I love your videos! 😊
I've been a Simmer for more than 15 years, and I totally get you on this. I've been addicted to Sims 3, then got obsessed with Sims 2, but then, when Sims 4 was announced, I got all hyped... Just to get disappointed in the end. The lost me when they started splitting the DLCs so much. It's true we all wanna own the full collection, even though we're not gonna play all the content, just for the sake of knowing we could have the full experience if we wanted to. But back then, on the other Sims era, we could buy all the packs they released knowing that we would get something cool within that pack (cuz back in the days each pack embodied many different themes at once). Now, it's just a money-grubbing game. I still hope Sims 5 returnst to its origins... Let's hope for the best. 😪
I don't think every sims game has to have all the exact features and dlc as all the other ones, I mean they're already pretty much the same game gameplay-wise, just with some added content and technical improvements; so I really wouldn't have minded if Sims 4 took out some features BUT only if they replaced those with something else, something better. Which.... yeah, didn't happen, the only really "new feature" was the emotions and those ended up entirely useless, any other new features after the release were shallow and repetitive as well
But honestly I think people are frustrated because it's been far to long for the sims 5 to come out. People are bored because it's the same game for like what 6 going 7 years. People need change people need new. That's why people are all so grumpy even when we get free stuff...they need to release a trailer for the sims 5 soon or the community is going to explode.
I agree with you to be honest. Also, the thing that bothers me so much is that the sims 4 has so much room for development and there are so many ideas that can be added to the game but ea turns a blind eye to them. plus, the whole dollhouse thing isn't a disadvantage for me since that's one of the biggest reasons why I'm still playing it; however, them making a big deal out of it just doesn't make sense not to mention their overly expensive packs (which is why I pirated the game and the DLCs don't tell ea lol) modders and costume content creators are carrying the game on their backs at this point.
TS4 was still in early access until 2017 but they didn't admit it.
I just miss being able to open and close the curtains.
Hi Satch, recently found your channel and I’m really enjoying it! I agree with everything you said in this video. I have loved The Sims since the Sims 1. I received Sims 4 when it came out (yes on CD-ROM) for a birthday gift, and thought it was so pretty looking as far as graphics, etc…but it was so boring! So I went back to playing my Sims 2 and Sims 3 games, because they were actually fun! The sims had personality, they weren’t carbon copies of each other, the backstory was interesting, the things you could do with them were silly, crazy, fun…and…I thought, well, maybe because it’s just basegame, I’ll wait for a while, and the good stuff will come…and yes, more packs did come which gave you more to do…with the same boring Sims being able to do a few more activities. It’s not the no cars, it’s not the no zombies (although, I loved zombies, lol) it’s that every household I make, no matter if I completely randomize traits, looks, everything…is exactly the same…I can get a set of Barbie dolls and make up stories for them…but this is a video game with a rich history…and they created a fantastic visual look with more advanced technology but removed any heart and soul from the game. It’s just shallow and meaningless…and for years, I kept thinking, well, this new pack will bring all this cool stuff that will make it interesting…and I just kept buying those packs, having fun with them for an hour playing the new features…and…yeah. So, I’ve rigged up my 2022 MacBook Pro to run Sims 3 and Sims 2, and I’ll go have fun with that. I’m really done with it. When watching simmers do LPs because they’re creative and invent “dialogue” and “emotions” and “storylines” is more fun than the actual game itself…something is very wrong…far beyond the completely unacceptable broken games/patches, etc they continually make and sell with a “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” attitude and just gaslight everyone with “your mods and CC are making it not work!” I’ll watch my favorite simmers LPs because they are creative, entertaining people who are able to basically invent and/or make fun of the gameplay do LPs, and just play Sims 3 or Sims 2 when I actually want to enjoy “The Sims.” Maybe EA will sell the game rights to someone who actually cares for them to do Sims 5 or whatever (yeah, not going to happen.) But, really at this point, just give it up already. Start over with a new core of the game for Sims 5, and actually make it fun…I have very little hope that this will happen, but it is what it is. My frustration has hit its peak, and I’m out.
"Who on Earth owns any item from Moschino ?" Me who up to now thought it was a fictive sims only brand
To be honest I dislike the fact that seasons wasn't part of the game immediately and instead was an expansion pack.
It's a feature in most games, not something you literally need to buy access to
I want everybody to hate on the Sims 4 as loud as possible grrrrrrr
The sims 4 went backwards in a lot of things. Features that was in base game was just not there. They also didn’t include features in returning packs were gone it for the better. They also made the game non-open world because they wanted everyone to be able to play but the bugs are still ignored like in Ts3 so what was the point.
I used to be a huge fan of the sims, but EA just ruined the franchise and made it into a money machine... Saddest part is that people are dumb enough to keep buying whatever they release
Sims 4 has no substance or character at all. No lore, no drama, no excitement. It's dull. It's just pretty. I droped the game nearly 4 years ago and went back to Sims 2. The expasion packs were soooooo superior and had so much content and gameplay that they were actually worth the money
I think EA, as a whole is becoming the…generation? Of employees who are riding on the coat tails of the creators of their franchises, because The Sims is not the only property of EA receiving this treatment. Madden Football while a niche demographic of fans have had vary long standing fans, just like The Sims. And Just like The Sims each new release is hyped and looks oh so shiny only for players to realize its not even an upgrade from previous games
My brother in law, just like many sims fans buys each new release in the hopes that it will be something good, I regularly make the joke that he is in an abusive relationship with Madden.
And Madden, just like Maxis, had a vision for the game and the releases he was in charge of where good, but it was actually much shorter lived then The Sims and the horrible releases have been out longer then The Sims started going down hill.
I don’t know who at EA got the wild hair up their ass to start phoning it in, because that’s literally what they are doing. They think they are trimming the fat by getting rid of small detail animations, the personal stories of already made Sims and mysteries, literally just letting the date event on the damn game work where you take a date to a restaurant, nice looking food, because it’s all just extra fluff right?
And releasing pools and toddlers in packs, while free, just made them look bad, and they had to spend money on those commercials that were hyping each stupid thing up like they are just losing money it looks like. I am sure their are still inspired creators at EA but decisions are being made by people who seem more interested in soaking up more quick money from their long standing franchises then actually creating anything
I think Olympus ruined the potential of The Sims 4, or better yet led to The Sims 4 only having potential but never living up to it. There was and still is so much that can be done, maybe not in The Sims 4 anymore but in future games.
And the part about Sims 4 ruining to concept of expression and individuality because they all act the same is how I've felt from the beginning. I think emotions were an earlier hint that everything about the sims as individuals would be for show. I felt the same way with the skin tones update, removing gender boundaries, the pride flags, them adding different foods from different cultures, and now pronouns. It's great, and I don't want to discourage it but the sims are still bland. We can easily give our sims the appearance of individuality but they all feel the same. What about their personalities?
SimGuruGrant actually said that the more traits you add the less distinct sims are because the traits just cancel each other out and every sim is vanilla if you have more than 3 traits. As if emotions aren't already canceling traits out and the sims aren't already vanilla in Sims 4. That is my number one problem with The Sims 4 and why I stick with Sims 2 and 3.
im sure its illegal to sell faulty items? how does ea get away with it again and again. my wedding stories was not fit for purpose!
this is copied and pasted for the uk government website.
You must offer a full refund if an item is faulty, not as described or does not do what it’s supposed to.
You have to offer a refund for certain items only if they’re faulty, such as:
personalised items and custom-made items, for example curtains
perishable items, for example frozen food or flowers
newspapers and magazines
unwrapped CDs, DVDs and computer software
Even in the sims 3 I bought island paradise and kind of regretted it. I wanted a refund but apparently you can get a refund for anything bought on origin except for DLC which again I'm pretty sure is illegal? It might be different in the US but it doesn't make a difference! Its just totally wrong to rip people off like this. I might be overreacting but it does make me really angry.
Nah dude, your anti-Sims 4 rants are refreshing and why I had to suscribe.
Same lol, I love how he tells it like it is and doesn’t act like this game is absolutely amazing like other sims CZcamsrs do
I still can’t figure out the design career. I have spend so much money and I haven’t brought sims packs cause it doesn’t seem worth it anymore
I uninstalled the Sims 4 months ago but my nostalgia brain kicks in every time they release something new, and I still get the urge to buy the DLC
Sims 4 is a horrible game and I don’t hold out much hope that Sims 5 will go back to the best (2 and 3).
Sad, because the new generation of players don’t know what they’re missing out. I genuinely think that’s why they don’t sell/re-release Sims 2 anymore - they know we’d never play Sims 4 again
They’re trying to sell this and marketed to children that’s why it’s cartoon
After I bought the base game from the store (pointless) I bought city living and pets. I never bought a pack again. It's horrible. I got all the dlc now though free. ;) not paying for this crap tbh.
But I've yet to play it because I have to keep adding mod after mod just to make the gameplay better or even interesting to look at. I just can't bring myself to play sims 4 because it is very BORING.
Wow I didn't even know we had a whims feature I've never had them on :o
Sims 4 is such a disappointment.. you literally commented on everything I thought about. Btw I still watch your sims 1 plays and „sims 4 would never” 😂 it’s so relatable…if only sims 1 was revamped 😞
Your sim can like movies etc its ingame Actionns and ther tied to previous packs sooooooo ther cant easaly add it to likes and dislikes
At 3:20... YUCK ! The one and ONLY place that such an outfit could be appropriate in for a clown. That's the Harlequin's outfit. Harlequin is a clown from the Commedia dell'arte.
Not having cars wouldn't be so bad if they had introduced some form of public transportation, like busses, metro or trains. Have a metro station in most neighbourhood, have some airports or port, even if only cosmetic. Enter the metro station and you get to travel to another area of the same world, go to the airport or port and travel to another world.
Regarding the traits : having three main, or dominant, traits is OK, BUT, there should be place for some secondary and tertiary traits, and more of them. Like 3 or 4 primary traits, 4 to 8 secondary traits, and 6 to 18 tertiary ones.
Some reward traits should demand that the Sim perform some action, or complete some quest.
Call me a basic batch - I quite like the simplicity of The Sims 4. Having said that, it’s terribly inconsistent and I’m not even sure it knows what it wants to be. Like it had a format, but is trying to merge it with content that doesn’t quite fit, or work with the game they had created. You can grow and sell crops, but also conveniently sell them in the inventory? And then when wedding stories came out, owning the pack meant that you had NO OTHER OPTION than go through the stress of that mess unless you opted to elope. It gives the option of choice for some things, but not everything and you’re forced to experience new mechanics on the odd playthrough where you might want less of a challenge. Right, gonna get back to- oh, my sim is too sad to do anything. Never mind :)
What I think is disgusting now with the sims is the fact the base game is so empty, they are literally selling things back to you that used to be in the older games base game..
And if you add up the cost of buy every single pack & kit it comes up to £945! how ridiculous is that! what other pc game costs a grand?!
The sims 4 is so booring,sims 2 was my fauvorite.
I hope they make a better sims 5.
Im honestly quite proud to say that i, an addict, stopped buying sims 4 crap after the whole journey to batuu fiasco. I did get country living because its one of the better packs imo. and i got bust the dust a few days ago, but only cause these two packs really interested me
I agree with your statements I wish they would bring back cars and the burgular
I agree with you a 1000%. I love the sims and because I love the sims we should be really vocal about its issues so we can have a solution!! I hate what they did to my favorite game and saying nothing but compliments to this game isn't going to make it any better, it'll make it worse!! Thank you for always being so honest Satch, I truly appreciate it!! 😘😘
I actually love the mos heels and dress. Totally agree with most of this. I hate how little we can personalize our sims. Not enough traits.
I'm pretty sure the game is like this cause its basically the scraps of Project Olympus (an online multiplayer game that was scrapped due to the failure of simcity) thrown together with a pretty bow. Plumbella did an amazing video on Project Olympus
I'm so happy I can always just go back to TS3 if I want to play a good Sims game😩
Or when you download the packs you want it pretty much makes you download the ones you don’t want to play with, the sims 3 doesn’t do that
As someone who only recently joined the online sims community, I have very little knowledge of past gameplay. The only other sims game besides sims 4 I’ve played is sims 3 pets on PlayStation. It’s so interesting to find out how much im missing out on, even if im not nostalgic for the games
I do own Moschino stuff irl. But yeah, the stuff pack is tragic.
I actually refuse to by some packs. All kits, island living and snowy escape. They add little to no gameplay just build and buy and CAS.
such a well put together and presented video essay!
unpopular opinion, but honestly i don't really feel like cars would be a very useful or fun addition to sims 4 as it is now. i'm not saying this because i don't want cars, but because, well. what's the point of them in the current game? you can only load in one neighborhood (or, well. one LOT + it's surroundings) at a time, and barely any of them are big enough to warrant a car because most of the time your sims can just walk anywhere in no time at all (though some of the packs have had slightly bigger maps, but the basegame neighborhoods are teeny tiny)
if a map is an entire big town it makes sense to have cars, but in the sims 4 what are you gonna do, drive down the street to the next loading screen? what's the point.
i do wish things were different, don't get me wrong, i'm definitely not a fan of how the sims 4 handles maps and neighborhoods and stuff, but that's a whoooole other can of worms.
basically, in order to make cars make sense in the sims 4 i feel like it'd require an overhaul of how the entire game worlds work, and i don't think ea is gonna do that
Sims 2 have cars even though it’s closed world where you can’t even visit your neighbours only can go to community lots
I agree completely! Plus, the lots are all plain and boring to build on. It looks nice, it runs better on my computer than the sims 3, but I really miss the old setup, lots, characters, and open world.
The MAC Sims palette didn’t even have names based on the Sims? That’s crazy. Well MAC has been trash for testing on animals
I'm glad you shat on the Moschino stuff, I thought I was the only one that found it stupid.
The fashion photographer is horrid. I wanted to have a landscape photographer freelance career, rather than finding out that I have to have two different lamps for the bloody jobs to work properly.
It is sickening the content that was missing from Sims 4. With Sims 2, we said, "Okay, they have new ideas. Excellent!" With Sims 3, we said, "Some of these are new ideas. Okay." With Sims 4, we're like, "WHY ARE WE HAVING TO PAY EXTRA FOR EVERY LITTLE THING!?!?!"
Those are still there to purchase, and we change aspirations like underwear to get more points to buy those. I hate the "wants and fears", as they are now called. They are intrusive to my game, and just another way that they hijack MY SIM and MY GAME. And the Vampire pack was shite, because all the sudden half of the conversational topics available were about vampires, just because I added that pack. I wanted the content, not Vlad showing up at every bloody house for every new sim I play.
You and I deeply disagree about how to play the sims. I want to design my own sim, but I love some of the random shit that happens, even in Sims 4. The For Rent pack makes someone, a stranger if you don't know anyone yet, call you up wanting to crash at your place. My Secret Agent guy found a best friend like that. This dude called him up wanting to crash at his place. Okay. I want to control my sim, however. I want to make the decisions.
You seem to want them to tell you what to do with your sim, because you cannot think of anything yourself. You think that creativity is the purvue of small children. That is not the truth. The Sims franchise gives you the ability to live a life that you cannot, or cannot anymore, or never even want to. Your fantasy is the limit in all of the games, to some extent. That said, we need more content in the Sims 4 for less kaching.
the thing is the sims 4 only works with mods that adds things that are basic features in the others games on the franchise