I would have liked to have seen more of the actual construction of the door, rather, (although very important),than the companies delivery and Co2 emissions.
@adie chip Indeed. Spot on. I think many of us are naive about the globalisation of manufacturing. I just got my XLJoinery door delivered today and it is made in Indonesia. I wonder what the door costs XL. I know I paid almost £500 for my Tricoya. Probably the cost of the door not so different to the mark-up by the distributor.
I’ve had some of the oak veneer suffolk doors from them recently and they are spot on / top notch 👌 lovely quality with very thick lippings compared to other manufacturers !
Funny but I'd never heard of this company but my daughter and partner are buying a new house which is still under construction and they've just fitted XL oak Suffolk doors. Then this video popped up.
Robins face when the lad putting on the hinges didnt predrill for the screws. Aren't they just a warehouse for imported doors which they finish off and charge you a premium.
😭😭😭😫😭😫😭 i can't believe you've been in my town and not called in for a cup of Rosie Lea! Something i thought David may have mentioned (maybe he did off camera) is that XL doors are now supplying solid oak doors throughout it may only be the Suffolk and Palermo range they do in this though if i remember. Can't wait to see which door and handles you go for.
Sorry we would have loved to come and see you. We stayed over on the previous night but had to hit the road after the visit. No matter we will be back to visit Rubi at Back to Basements.
yes, some of the doors are from SE Asia but they sell softwood doors which are made closer to home. It makes sense to make the doors close to the source of the timber.
@adie chip This is a great disussion and I am sure that XL would not shy away from the debate. Given that the doors are brought in on container ships which have a very low tonnage cost per mile they might be able to make a case for bringing them in from SE Asia. If they came from France or maybe Croatia by road it would probably carry a higher carbon penalty. There is a lot to consider but they are serious about reducing carbon, they look at everything.
Bonjour, just a quick tip when fitting skirting boards to wood or laminate flooring run a 3mm radius round to the face bottom edge , for painting, your welcome,, please investigate,,thanks darren
First question regarding carbon footprint of the company Does all the timber you use come from a sustainable source? I am a joiner and actually hate seeing trees being cut from unsustainable sources mainly talking about hardwoods solid hardwoods are crazy prices now I was hanging solid teak doors in a restaurant in London they were beautiful but they were £1200 per door As much as I love the real thing man made laminates and veneers look nearly as nice
It is a great shame to see trees cut down but we have to accept that people living in the rain forest have the same needs as all of us. They want to feed their families and thrive. Managing forests and replanting in any forest is essential and most importers are using FSC certified timber, but to simply stop using all timber from these areas means they have nothing to live on. Put yourself in their place and you would probably do the same.
There is crap out there which is why Robin went to see the products. He is happy that this is high end. Making 20 hardwood doors to this standard would take some doing and cost a lot more.you have to get real at some point.
Well that was not what I expected. So they buy there doors in and QC inspects every door before it goes in the rack. So they 100 % inspect quality in. Bit labour intensive. What do they do with failures? So who makes the doors then and how are they constructed. Who machines the sections for the door frames? Are they all mdf and cardboard. Any joints in them at all? Where is the hardwood veneer sourced from. Hopefully there will be a part 2 to follow
The doors in quality control are bespoke specials. The stock doors come from joinery shops close to the raw materials. In the case of hardwood it is from fsc forests in the tropics. Good to check this before buying. We hoped to see some fabrication. Maybe we should take one apart to have a look.
@@SkillBuilder i can send you some photos of some door bottoms i have cut off in the past, these were rooster doors 😉 I saved them because even though they were the same name, some same size they were constructed differently. I know similar company's like Xl import from several country's around the world, hence the changes in the way they are constructed.
I’ve been on the same factory tour and also a night out with the office staff as a customer....great bunch of people. If you get the chance to go around Premdor, do it.
I personally found them to be nothing but a disappointment. Followed all their guidelines with finishing 2 exterior doors, both bubbled and deteriorated badly after 2yrs (nightmare!) and warped interior doors. Have since moved to Deanta and wouldn't look back. Sorry, there's a moan/opinion you never asked for 👀
My bespoke accoya door puts all of these to shame by far. It looks like a £10,000 door. And it was made piece by piece from scratch, with true skill and craftsmanship, not imported from China and then finished off. #DoorFlex
"This is quality control" - As the guy in the back slams a door down. Funny as hell!
Hes testing it for durability ready for the builders merchants.
My thoughts exactly 😂
Adam Pearcey TAP THIS > 0:57
Lol Robin wanting to grab the drill of Freddie Flintoff before he did himself (or the door) some harm.
😂 They really put him on the spot there poor fucker must have been rattled with the bosses and a camera crew watching
I would have liked to have seen more of the actual construction of the door, rather, (although very important),than the companies delivery and Co2 emissions.
Yes I was interested in where the wood is sourced, how thick is the veneer, whats 'in the middle' CNC's in action, but informative
Same
@adie chip Indeed. Spot on. I think many of us are naive about the globalisation of manufacturing. I just got my XLJoinery door delivered today and it is made in Indonesia. I wonder what the door costs XL. I know I paid almost £500 for my Tricoya. Probably the cost of the door not so different to the mark-up by the distributor.
should of asked them to stop putting metal and staples where we have to cut :)
toffiecrisp123 staples on the corners are annoying as f*ck
I’ve had some of the oak veneer suffolk doors from them recently and they are spot on / top notch 👌 lovely quality with very thick lippings compared to other manufacturers !
Funny but I'd never heard of this company but my daughter and partner are buying a new house which is still under construction and they've just fitted XL oak Suffolk doors. Then this video popped up.
Just picked up all our new doors from XL. Great to see behind the scenes.
Robins face when the lad putting on the hinges didnt predrill for the screws.
Aren't they just a warehouse for imported doors which they finish off and charge you a premium.
Clearly only a warehouse for imported doors probably made in China... Clearly not a production facility 🙄
@@antoinec1066 yes you could eat off the floor in there 🤣
@@antoinec1066 Vietnam
😭😭😭😫😭😫😭 i can't believe you've been in my town and not called in for a cup of Rosie Lea!
Something i thought David may have mentioned (maybe he did off camera) is that XL doors are now supplying solid oak doors throughout it may only be the Suffolk and Palermo range they do in this though if i remember.
Can't wait to see which door and handles you go for.
Sorry we would have loved to come and see you. We stayed over on the previous night but had to hit the road after the visit. No matter we will be back to visit Rubi at Back to Basements.
@@SkillBuilder well you know your welcome anytime, even if i'm at work my wife say's the kettle will always be on boil.
Did he say he'd never been to yorkshire before ?
Thomas, i must have replayed that part, half a dozen times to check if i heard him right.
Are the doors built in Asia and just finished in the UK?
yes, some of the doors are from SE Asia but they sell softwood doors which are made closer to home. It makes sense to make the doors close to the source of the timber.
@adie chip This is a great disussion and I am sure that XL would not shy away from the debate. Given that the doors are brought in on container ships which have a very low tonnage cost per mile they might be able to make a case for bringing them in from SE Asia. If they came from France or maybe Croatia by road it would probably carry a higher carbon penalty.
There is a lot to consider but they are serious about reducing carbon, they look at everything.
Bonjour, just a quick tip when fitting skirting boards to wood or laminate flooring run a 3mm radius round to the face bottom edge , for painting, your welcome,, please investigate,,thanks darren
Will experiment thanks for the tip!
First question regarding carbon footprint of the company
Does all the timber you use come from a sustainable source?
I am a joiner and actually hate seeing trees being cut from unsustainable sources mainly talking about hardwoods solid hardwoods are crazy prices now I was hanging solid teak doors in a restaurant in London they were beautiful but they were £1200 per door
As much as I love the real thing man made laminates and veneers look nearly as nice
It is a great shame to see trees cut down but we have to accept that people living in the rain forest have the same needs as all of us. They want to feed their families and thrive. Managing forests and replanting in any forest is essential and most importers are using FSC certified timber, but to simply stop using all timber from these areas means they have nothing to live on. Put yourself in their place and you would probably do the same.
They are all vaneered doors the external ones
I enjoyed that...so I'm questioning my life interests! That angled screw in was new to me, makes sense though. Good vid chaps 👍
Shame you can’t ask a local joiner to make what you need
Mass produced crap
There is crap out there which is why Robin went to see the products. He is happy that this is high end. Making 20 hardwood doors to this standard would take some doing and cost a lot more.you have to get real at some point.
James Williams someone’s bitter. People want doors that are identical. Imagine a joiner making 10 doors - 1% chance them all being exactly the same.
Nice to see . Good products and some thoughtful innovation .
1 min in This is quality control and factory worker slams your £200 door onto a pallet
Well that was not what I expected. So they buy there doors in and QC inspects every door before it goes in the rack. So they 100 % inspect quality in. Bit labour intensive. What do they do with failures? So who makes the doors then and how are they constructed. Who machines the sections for the door frames? Are they all mdf and cardboard. Any joints in them at all? Where is the hardwood veneer sourced from. Hopefully there will be a part 2 to follow
The doors in quality control are bespoke specials. The stock doors come from joinery shops close to the raw materials. In the case of hardwood it is from fsc forests in the tropics. Good to check this before buying. We hoped to see some fabrication. Maybe we should take one apart to have a look.
@@SkillBuilder i can send you some photos of some door bottoms i have cut off in the past, these were rooster doors 😉
I saved them because even though they were the same name, some same size they were constructed differently.
I know similar company's like Xl import from several country's around the world, hence the changes in the way they are constructed.
I’ve been on the same factory tour and also a night out with the office staff as a customer....great bunch of people.
If you get the chance to go around Premdor, do it.
Looks like somebody is looking for free doors.
So what kind of door did you go for in the end Robin??
That's a surprise for a video in the future!!
One day, we will get back to manufacturing in our own country. These imports are not even low coast.
Jbkind make nice internal doors .
I personally found them to be nothing but a disappointment. Followed all their guidelines with finishing 2 exterior doors, both bubbled and deteriorated badly after 2yrs (nightmare!) and warped interior doors. Have since moved to Deanta and wouldn't look back. Sorry, there's a moan/opinion you never asked for 👀
Llyr Jones deanta are brilliant doors. I have to agree with you on xl doors.
London bars? I may have frequented a few.
Robin isn't old enough to get in one.
He's sitting in his Dad's car outside of The Crown with a coke.
@@I-am-not-a-number You have local knowledge
I am a Dork.
My bespoke accoya door puts all of these to shame by far. It looks like a £10,000 door. And it was made piece by piece from scratch, with true skill and craftsmanship, not imported from China and then finished off. #DoorFlex
Never been to Yorkshire! God's own country. What have you been doing with your life!
Yes that is a crime
One day, we will get back to manufacturing in our own country. These imports are not even low coast.