Reacting to YOUR Unpopular COD Zombies Opinions!
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Reacting to and Reading Call of Duty Hot Takes/Unpopular Opinions!
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Tag Der Toten Hot Takes 0:18
Spaceland is Better than SOE 2:25
Cold War Zombies Hot Takes 3:24
BO4 Perk System 10:16
DE is Overrated 12:42
Custom Mutations & Blood of the Dead Hot Takes 14:42
Moon's Easter Egg Sucks 16:05
5 Quick Hot Takes 17:22
Non-Treyarch Zombies is Underappreciated 19:46
MWZ is Underrated 21:39
Classified is the Best BO4 Map 25:32
4 Quick Hot Takes 28:09
Beast Mode & Afterlife Mechanics Suck 30:21
The Zombies Storyline Sucked after BO2 31:46
BO1 Zombies is Overrated 33:33
Die Maschine is Overrated 35:17
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"Hardcore players aren't owed anything." Yeah I heavily disagree. The Hardcore playerbase is why zombies survived.
Yeah for real. Especially those of us that bought ALL the games and ALL the DLC.
@Xpertfusion I've been a newer player and been getting all the games and dlc. And going from having all of them on console to not having all of them on pc has been- something else.
PC has way more just get into bo3 modded zombies
My unpopular opinion is the zombies community just wants bo3 clones each year
I think they want something that reaches the heights and quality of BO3 again while still retaining the fun gameplay loop of it.
Cause it was a fun zombies mode
Nah I don't want a bo3 clone I want to just play bo3 best Call of Duty out there no one can change my mind
@@Ricky-uf8kj because that's where I got professionally good at zombies and in plus Graphics lighting engine movement is just perfect. Multiplayer is pretty good too Black Ops 3 campaign story isn't good but very fun and plus they have free run nightmare Dead Ops Arcade the devs were really passionate about this game. And we don't see that passionate side of Call of Duty devs anymore.
@@Better-0ff skitzo
For the Richtofen death one, I would say you kind of missed the point. The version of Richtofen that died actually did care about Primis. But because they never went through Revelations, he never really said anything to them so they didn't like him. The great war version hasn't gone through all the maps that the dead primis Richtofen did so he doesn't care about the others yet. They all leave him to die not caring about him. His last words are "I was the nicest one, you won't even remember"
Great war richtofen was the one who already went through the full cycle, so he actually had more time with the rest of primis? It's the same crew but at a different point in the cycle
I still think that should’ve never done that, it makes the story more confusing
"The hardcores arnt owed anything" literally made me say ew 😂
The hardcores are the only ones still playing all these 6+ year old zombies games. The hardcores are the ones that keep these games alive
There are newcomers in the older zombie games, especially when all the CoD's drop on Gamepass, the older games are definitely going to be flooded.
@it2spooky4me79 hardly my guy. If you play Playstation then you should know that if you wanna play bo3 you get shadows, kino, the giant, or origins and all other maps are dead.
Which almost ensures that every Map with MAYBE the exception of 1 or 2 of bo2 maps are dead but I don't have bo2.
New comers would be good but as somebody who's played everyday for the last 2 weeks in public lobbies bo3, I can say with certainty that most these people are not new, just returning. Almost nobody is new lol you can complete easter eggs consistently with the no-mic randoms in public matches now; that is the opposite of new
@@it2spooky4me79 Honestly I don't think they'll put all the old CoD games on gamepass and if anything they will never put DLC for free lmao so everyone will be playing on the base map like today.
If they put old CoD games on GP they'll just going to compete CoD 2024 more so if CoD 2024 sucks a*s and that's not good for $$
My most unpopular opinion is probably that I would rather we got more Zielinsky maps instead of handing the reigns of zombies over to Blundell for BO3 and BO4.
I understand most people didn’t like the first few BO2 maps from Zielinsky, but he ended on an absolute banger in Buried, my favorite map of all time. I also quite liked Tranzit, Die Rise, and Nuketown tbh, but I know that’s fairly unpopular. I wish zombies kept doing half Zielinsky maps and half Blundell maps through BO3, BO4, and beyond. I feel like they complimented each other so well.
I agree, I whole heartedly agree, if Zielinsky made the Aether maps in bo4 and have Blumdell make the Chaos Maps, we would’ve probably had a perfect zombies game
@@Sandman2000_HotTake Blundell maps focusing more on story, and Zielinski's maps focusing on the more sandbox like gameplay.
That would've been a recipe for the greatest zombies game ever, BO2 was almost like that, too bad most of Zielinski's maps sucked, if they were Buried quality, then I would've liked BO2 more.
@@it2spooky4me79yeah, buried imo always felt like the perfect combo of the improvements blundell made mixed with the classic zombies forumla
So with richtofens death, the reason the other characters don't really care is because they don't know Richtofen that well and still are unsure of his overall plan, this is right after ZNS so the rest of the crew don't know Richtofen is going to try and save them yet, to them he's just another Richtofen who clearly can be replaced
Great video bro! My take for zombies is that it needs to go back to basics. Remove operators, remove killstreaks, remove loot, remove Loadouts - make the mystery box & wall buy weapons important again! I’d also like to see the mode slow down a bit, build up the atmosphere with slow early rounds like the old games did.
-The Dark Aether story is vastly overhated, it has some very interesting stuff such as the Construct, Eddie's life after the end of BO4 (His family tragically dying after weaver burned down their house, Project Janus and the Wall from CWZ intel) and not to mention how interesting the Dark Aether itself is and how it might contain different versions of Earth within it similarly to a multiverse (The gaming revolution made a great video about it). Not to mention other characters such as Ava Jansen, dark aether Gods etc.
its just the presentation is very boring.the dark aether in die maschine is the only place that looks interesting. If its not interesting to look at, if there isnt a set crew, people wont care.
It's always great to see the Tag der Toten army growing 😆
We all know u just trolling bro
@nick4281 No, not at all, I love the map, and I'm glad more people are seeing how fun it is.
@@CJSantaI guess but I hope people find out black ops 4 was underrated maj
Honestly, because of your video, you made a revisit back to a map I thought was meh kinda average, and now I have a newfound appreciation for this map tag der toten
I bet your video is what is causing this Tag Der Toten Army to rise, well my DOTN Army will take down the Tag Der Toten Army
Hey that's me, I just have more time on Spaceland, and i love how the Easter Egg can be done Solo, and it's fairly easy with a pretty difficult boss fight (kind of unfair with multiple players though).
Not trying to downplay Shadows, it's still a great map.
Lil bro shadows is better they changed the perk machine jingles good characters and explain how it feels like orgins please becuase there’s no 4 elemental wonder weapons like please shush
@@Contemplatingspider who are you to shush me about my own opinion? Coming in here being all rude.
Spaceland also had new jingles for perks, I'm saying that it feels like Origins because it has that same quest/grand feeling, plus both maps have that long set up, i was mainly focusing on how the map felt like Mob in so many ways.
I'm honestly happy about people loving zombies in spaceland. Though SOE has had a bigger impact on me, so to me SOE is still better. Btw, I'm not trying to change your opinion or anything. I respect it
@@johanpasser5718 thanks, yeah I fully understand SOE is more impactful and the atmosphere is unmatched, for me to downplay SOE would be a disservice to the map, I just love how much content and fun things there is to do in Spaceland.
But everyone has their own opinions, and I just shared my unpopular one, thank you for understanding.
I always want to respect other people's opinions, but I guess sometimes people just wake up and choose violence.
@@it2spooky4me79 the map does NOT have a long setup getting pap takes like 10 minutes then getting the egg takes some time to charge up but once you have the sword and ur already done so its like what round 10 stop the yapping please
I got another one: extinction was good. I think that a lot of people disliked ghosts for various reasons like the mp sucks, the campaign ended with a cliffhanger and it was bo2’s successor so anything in it’s place would fail. Also it’s much faster paced than any other zombies mode which some people really disliked. Because of these reasons ghosts extinction got very few overlooked while it had some really good mechanics, maps and the teeth system was great.
We need Extinction 2, down with the half-assed Spec Ops we have now
@@it2spooky4me79 amen
That is not an unpopular opinion among the people that actually played it, just like IW zombies
@@rexzombiesbrasil the problem is that nobody actually played it
@@DJAK792 yeah, unfortunaetly it is a very small community, but a very faithful one also, i still know some people who play extinction religiously
Thanks for reading my DE comment. I’m glad you agreed with some of my points. Even though I was pretty negative about it, I still like the map, it is well designed, and I like that the actual bow quests themselves are unique. I guess I just never saw this map as the peak of zombies like others do. But if it’s one of your favorite maps, I totally respect it. It was one of mine at one point, but I guess it just got old for me.
See my comment about why Dempsey and DE link together
I totally agree with that take that the zombies story was at its best from BO2 and earlier. It just went completely off the rails (in a bad way imo) from Origins onward. I do appreciate the cool locations we got to see thanks to the alternate dimension thing though.
They pratically rebooted the story with origins and to this day im butthurt about it, it was a big "FORGET ALL YOU KNOW" and i hated it, never was able to enjoy the storyline again after that even tho i agree blundell crew did characters much better
I don’t understand what the fuck is in the pre origins story that makes people suck it’s dick so much you had victus the worst crew and story, ultimus for like 5 maps which is still a boring and annoying crew
my hot take is that soul boxes are lazy, it was interesting when introduced in Moon and then every custom zombies map under the sun started using them and bled it dry
i think it was only ever officially used like 4 times at most
Ayyy thanks for addressing my comment! I definitely think our Twitter algorithms are influencing our opinions on if bocw is underrated vs overrated. I see next to ZERO appreciation for bocw zombies there which is kinda crazy right? That's why I was scared we won't see another like it.
I found it interesting that you think Gulf War will be more similar to Cold War. Perhaps there just isn't as much support on mw3 zombies so that's why we won't get Onslaught this year? Perhaps Treyarch has just been testing the waters for Gulf War through Vanguard and Mw3's unique zombies reception...?
(And btw I think what also makes cw my favorite is the movement, the gun selection off the bat, and rampage inducer! If I could change 1 thing, it would be the story/crew for Gulf War... they need MAJOR improvements)
I think cold war is overrrated, but not because it is easy or whatever, but I think it does not feel like zombies. It is the multiplayer version of zombies, it lost it's identity and conformed to warzone and all that stuff.
I think that Its mostly because of the ATH, They should get rid off the zombies health and all the points system. It would’ve changed alot.
I'll give you 3
1. WW2 is the 3rd best zombies game with bo3 being 2, and bo2 being 1. It has the perfect class system,solves the operator problem before it began, everyone can get the ww once crafted,and makes zombies scary again. I mean hell 3 the lowest the maps go is b tier. The tortures path wasn't too bad either. Also has an expansive mystery box so you're not playing with the same 3 guns all the time.
2. Elemental pop is S tier, cry about it
3. Classic outbreak was a welcome experience that was way too overhated and should make a return as a side mode
Outbreak was a really fun change of pace especially with the open worlds but there are things I wished they did better
1) The maps be more zombified since they’re directly copy and pasted from fire team and it’s really obvious
2) I wish the maps were more detailed since they feel really empty when you take a closer look
3) They cut out really cool areas for no reason like the island on Sanatorium and the mansion in Golova
elemental pop is so good, i dont even know what it does
I fully expect Gulf War to be very similar to Cold War, and the leaks do far seem to suggest that.
I think instead of not having stuff like perk upgrades that cw has they should give you an option to pick to turn off the upgrades and then a calling card for doing each Easter egg without upgrades to give people a reason to do them
In defense of DE. Btw you said what I said, it does use assets from earlier maps and modes, however, uses them uniquely where the map forms it’s own identity. I’d also say that the bow upgrade quests are better than the staff ugrade quests. On Origins you find one part of each staff in each of the three sections of the map. Then you open the mound and pick up the gramaphone. From that point on, you’re just running back and forth between the mound and the crazy place. Wereas with the bows, each have a unique quest.
For me, about the whole thing with Richtofen's death in Blood. The other characters very blatantly didn't trust him. Especially when one of the quotes Nikolai can say during 2+ player games of Blood featuring him and Richtofen includes "Admit it already! You do not have plan!" or something like that. Players aren't supposed to fully trust him either since Ultimis Richtofen ended up leading everybody on throughout all of WaW and BO1 just to gain power and betray them in the end, and then Primis Richtofen's whole plan thus far was to find and kill everyone's Ultimis counterparts for reasons he couldn't disclose (obviously, the Kronorium and its knowledge was too much for some people to handle, and Nikolai finally acknowledges this fact once he becomes the team leader, but his lack of full disclosure still made the rest of Primis not trust him). So to me, it makes sense that they would just casually walk off while he dies. Could they have done more with Blood's ending? Absolutely. But even knowing what I do now in hindsight after experiencing the whole Aether storyline, it still gets me when as Richtofen dies, he admits "Nobody will ever remember me...I was the nicest one"
I feel I got a couple worth mentioning cuz I love the love given to the lesser appreciated Zombies modes for one
WW2 Zombies is up there as possibly even better then some Treyarch games as jus a great progression of the ideas laid out by the OGs while it going so wild with it you lose what made it what it was brining it back to the era that started it back in WaW while also still having great advancements over making Jug a whole mechanic with the Armor rather then a Perk & the really cool PaP abilities really made it feel like old school Zombies again even some of those custom WaW maps but the EEs were still there with some being less complicated at first but picking up pace if you wanna finish the whole thing which is how I feel they should always have been
As for a different take I think that Speed Cola is one of the most overrated perks in the history of the mode it only really thrives in small close quarters areas but if you train properly & reload at the right times even Y Y canceling there's no reason to have it over things like Stamin Up, PhD, Widow's, etc but I also think Mule Kick is heavily underrated by comparison if you plan it out right & make sure your least valuable weapon is the 3rd gun then it's a lot better off & just the chance of getting your gun back in Cold War would've been enough to completely redeem it cuz it just makes you more of a walking aresenal, be more versatile, & have more ammo the amount you can do with that is so much more especially if you consider things like AATs in the mix
God I would do anything to get a map as good as tag with what we’ve been getting recently
Gulf war 🤞
If you dont start with a crappy pistol and have to use your bullets and weapons effectively to get enough points to get ahead of the increasing rounds then i aint about it 😮💨@anynamez7048
@@RandoManFPV I 1000% agree
@@anynamez7048 it's gonna be bad
Are you planning on doing a part 2 of this video? If you are, 1) that’s pretty cool and 2) I understand why people like it but I don’t like Shangri-La. It’s Easter egg is such a chore to complete. While it’s not entirely rng based, getting the baby gun is honestly a pain. Plus the map is just tightly quartered and leads to bs downs. I just can’t like it.
Yeah i think your right. After MWZ, If outbreak is comming back in gulf war, i don't think it will be as well recieved as it was initially.
I think most people agree Moon’s easter egg sucks, it just has an awesome ending.
RNG in Easter Egg steps just suck, It basically artificially increases the difficulty
in BO1 coop i honestly enjoyed it, BO3 solo tho...
I genuinely think MWZ has a solid foundation, and it could've been good if they continued to add to it. If they brought new zombie types/bosses/perks/wonder weapons regularly it could've been pretty good, but they were so lazy with the content. Its essentially the same game it was at launch. Still prefer round based as most people do, but an open world mode has potential for zombies, and I think that MWZ and maybe Outbreak a little showed that, but after this mega failure that MWZ they really shouldn't even try it agian.
Just like I said on your original post, my unpopular opinion is that BO4 has the best Zombies mechanics in the franchise. The things everyone was complaining about were the reasons I liked it. I love BO3, but there were certain aspects that frustrated me, and the mechanic changes fixed most of that. Remember, this is an opinion, it’s ok if you disagree. BO4 was also very content heavy(4 maps at launch, 8 total with Gauntlets(which I really liked) and camo grind(which I also enjoyed)) And it was very cinematic and story focused. And yes, I also liked Exo-Zombies mechanics. The mechanics aren’t perfect, but I love exo-movement and the unique features like teleport grenades and scorestreak were a lot of fun.
I agree with the liking and trying the other zombies modes from other branches of activision. AS A TREARCH DIE HARD FANBOY, i really enjoyed WW2's zombie mode and loved zombies in spaceland. from the gritty ww2 zombies to goofy kinda cringy arcady feel. it allowed for diverse experiences depending on mood. it isn't for everyone and it doesn't have to be.
further information on BO4, high rounds and grinding to high rounds is a marathon of immense endurance because the HP stops increasing after round 35. it just gets tedious killing more zombies. thats why cold war got better throughout the seasons. they kept raising that cap.
The Zombies story was so much better before Jason Blundell took over. The writing in Bo3 in particular was just bad..
Well I’d say the characters (Primis) were written well but everything else yeah it’s badly written, I feel like they messed up with Blowing up earth kinda put them in a corner didn’t know where to take the story after that
The original Victis Trilogy wasn’t even designed by Blundell
@@british35 we know
34:42 ironic to say that you don't have to do the easter eggs to play the newer maps while playing that map that requires you to basically do the whole easter egg just to upgrade the wonderweapon, plus the unnecessary game of matching skull symbols to their altars and running back and forth to get the special weapon, I will say that for the most part you're right, most new maps all you need to do is open up the map and get pap, but there are a lot of maps where easter eggs are more integral, like ZNS
1) There a very few maps that make you do Easter Egg steps to upgrade the Wonder Weapon
2) You don't really HAVE to upgrade the Wonder Weapon to play and enjoy any map. The best weapon in BO3 is any gun with Dead Wire at the end of the day lol.
3) The skull-matching stuff is definitely not required (you don't NEED the specialist weapons), but it's also like not really an Easter Egg?? It's very simple, anyone could figure it out and do it quickly.
You should make this like a weekly or monthly thing
19:10 I love Attack of the Radioactive Thing ☢ ♥
Finally someone who sees the beauty in Attack 🗿
I'll never understand the hatred towards that map.
@@it2spooky4me79 I see most people complain about the black and white color scheme at the start but thats about it.... I especially like the boss fight and layout of the map though
@@Mattsuki maybe also, how washed the colors are, but they pretty much fit the whole 50's vibe, and personally I love 50's type architecture or vibe, one of the reasons why I love the Fallout series.
The boss fight was super fun and unique, Easter Egg itself was kind of annoying, but not too bad, the Wonder Weapon is kind of busted because it basically has Infinte ammo, Change Chews is also the first iteration of Elemental Pop, I love the creatable traps, and there's a ton of good training spots for the map.
There's not a lot of things I dislike about the map, actually almost all of Infinite Warfare maps I really love, except Beast, I have a grudge with that map, don't like it at all.
Beast from Beyond just spawns in WAY to much special zombies, and I hate the quests to get the Venom-X and to upgrade it, I never liked Morse Code steps in ANY CoD zombies game.
Combind all the good parts of each game into one and have it a zombies game. Ex. Have a perk limit, but you can change them later, customs, and the point system from AW.....
In advance, i wanna excuse myself for the huge essay i just wrote, i just love disscussing these kind of things lol, i have other stuff to do and instead i do this lmao.
Here is my hugely unpopular opinion: I genuinely enjoy Exo Zombies's Infection:
Before anything i actually like exo zombies gameplay in general, im a masochist zombies player who likes a barebones hard survival focused zombies mode (while also enjoying quest heavy maps), eggs are just a bonus in this game and not the main attraction.
It begins by the thematic of the map, a lot of people think it is uninspired, now me, i love the callback to MW2's campaign iconic burgertown and specially how bubby comes to life at the end of the EE.
I also like the design of the map, while a lot of people dislike the sewers being the central hub, i like how the map blends more relaxed open areas with a gritty, fast paced, close quarters area that puts you in your toes, the trash shuttles connect the peripheral areas of the map to the center nicely.
Another thing people dislike a lot is how much events this map has, i actually like how there is almost always something to do, some challenge, and a change of pace, i really don't mind the map 'forcing' a challenge on me, if i don't want that in the moment i will just play outbreak instead:
- Firstly the rescuing surivor rounds, in coop in general i think they are fun and cool, i actually like escorts in zombies at least for coop, and they can be boringly easy if you want to by just abusing spawn control (that also makes it possible to rescue them any round whatsoever without firing a shot if you master it), the free PAP reward is nice for the early rounds, and a benefit few people know which the current WR holder for HR and Flawless in this map told me is that you get more orbital strike drops if you rescue them, so also worth for high rounds because of camouflages. Now for solo the early rescues are very doable if you know how to use the map traps to your favor and then you need to have some early lucky in the box to hold the 3rd surivor onwards, a recurring problemn in exoZ, and that is where it gets problematic, because in higher rounds in solo it is almost impossible to rescue them or if it is, not worth wasting distraction drones and camouflages for that, that is where also the punishment is bad as you don't stand a chance, it can be annoying but being honest shit in cod zombies not being balanced for solo play and being annoying as shit in solo is more rule than exception, i guess they could have fixed that just by you only being punished/losing the survivor if you actually engaged with him. Also it is funny asf how the survivors fly away in the warbird.
- Secondly the Goliath rounds, i think the Goliath is an awesome enemy, and he always drops a max ammo so no complaints about him, nice challenge, nice reward. Also taking about enemy types more, i like how the dogs in this map come in the middle of normal rounds, this actually makes them threatening like der riese, and the spike and poison zombies are challenging enemy types which require attention and pratice to deal with, a lot of people get frustrated for not understanding how they work.
Thirdly the infected rounds: i never had a problemn with these rounds to begin with, if you use the trash shuttles you don't need to stay that close to the descontamination pad as long as you play carefully and even then i don't mind camping in the pad since they are fast rounds with a max ammo in the end. Also can we just appreciate how when a friend gets infected and dies his character comes back as a stronger zombie?
-Finally the contamination rounds: again i don't mind the forced challenge, it is a nice change of pace that makes you get used to survive in all main areas of the map, in 30+ rounds when all 3 areas are contaminated they make a nice mix of easy rounds in the hugely open areas of this map that are probaly the best in the game to use the exo suit switching with very challenging rounds which actually makes this map have the coolest high round experience in exo-z for me, it took a while but i mastered the sewer rounds.
Now i wanna talk about a very underrated aspect of this map: The traps - they are very distinct from each other in usefulness, probaly the most varied in a single zombies map ever, creative and can make a huge difference in your gameplay if you know how to use them in your favor: firstly the eletric floor trap in spawn which is just good for killing zombies in general and also rescuing surivors in this area, secondly the ambulance siren which acts as a distraction drone / monkey bomb in value voltage, thirdly the camouflage spray in the middle of the sewers, this 'trap' is very well placed since it is in the most close quarters area of the map and in the middle of where all trash shuttles take you, those who know about this map will have a much easier time travelling through this map even in the middle of high rounds, the orbital strike trap in burgertown which is just very cool and strong, kills loads of zombies + lots of damage to goliath also place in the best area to survive in the map, and finally the gator trap in sewers, doesn't kill a lot of zombies but i just can't get over how creative and cool this trap is, based on a urban legend, also helpful in sewer only rounds. The only bad one for me is the sniper tower in atlas command, it was bad in mob even with the upgrade and still is here.
Now about the weapon pool specially the magnetron: it actually isn't as bad as people think, not an OP WW or anything but it can be useful, if you keep taping fire button it will never overheat, it is nice to farm points as you always earn 100 per kill, it slows down zombies and even hordes if you use it well so can be very good for crowd control in higher rounds, and if you keep up with the Pack a punch levels it honestly ain't that bad for killing zombies in earlier rounds. This map still suffers along with outbreak from very limited good weapons, but the very open areas make it so the MAYHEM (launcher) and Crossbow are actually very good.
To end this huge essay the Easter Egg: not a superb egg or anything but it is just supposed to be a bonus, i think it is overall a fun quest that you shouldn't take seriously, i actually enjoy the steps besides finding the valves and the meats. I always think of me as spongebob in a quest like that of the pilot episode lmao, and omg how much i love bubby coming to life at the end, he is so helpful and can even beat a goliath for you, and drops a Reign Drops for you when he dies, huge missed opportunity not making him a buyable trap after the EE like a civil protector.
In summary i enjoy a map with a challenging high round experience and also am a masochist zombies player overall lmao.
I think the bo4 perk thing is funny because realistically they tried to get rid of crutch perks however there were still clutch perks
So, this may be a hot take, but as a hardcore player, I LOVE BO: cold war. I don't think it is the best zombies game, but it is my favorite. Let me explain:
I am a hardcore player. I have been playing since BO1 came out. I have done every single easter egg (Treyarch and non-Treyarch). I feel like cold war has plenty for both. It expands into a new direction while still keeping the feeling of the old aether storyline a little bit. The story has cohesion and twists and turns. I enjoy outbreak a lot, but I understand why it isn't popular (but driving around and shooting zombies with a tank is a nice break sometimes). Each of the maps totally feels like something they would've made back in the day. German city, Eastern nation military base, german testing facility, etc.
In addition, as a hardcore player, I love that the easter eggs are easier. I love that I can do easter eggs without having to watch a video. Another friend (we'd been playing zombies and completing easter eggs since BO3) and I actually SOLVED two of the easter eggs in the game without having to watch a video or go online, and it was such an amazing feel, that I do not believe I ever would have been able to experience with the inane convolution of the easter eggs in the past.
Finally, the engine is peak. It feels amazing and flows well. The perk system, the PAP system, the weapon system. It leaves for something to be building to, allows for each weapon to remain viable (some are still obviously better). The ability to grapple over stuff and run around zombies is great.
Honestly. As someone who dropped off zombies as soon as BO2 started. I’ll say zombies itself became less fun with each new game.
Origins was sick, but I didn’t find myself caring for the mode when they basically made long EEs the norm. BO2 itself didn’t give me much confidence with zombies going forward until the aforementioned Origins. I didn’t care for Buried, Die Rise is actually the worst map ever. Mob was neat, but still didn’t grab me though.
I’ve been playing BO3 lately but I’ll still find myself having the time of my life in W@W Der Riese. Even in BO3’s case, there’s a clear focus on the old stuff with all the remastered maps. And I’ll be honest, I never cared for der eisendrache. Every time I’ve just wanted to jump in and play the map, I’d always run into peeps that had to always do the EE and would be very loud/annoying on the mics pressuring me to do the EE with them. Bro I’m just there to vibe and fight zombies.
There are some changes made in new zombies that I think are neat like double tap 2.0 but I still believe zombies was at its peak when it was a straight forward survival mode.
I apologize to anyone that likes new zombies. I know this comes off as a boomer-esque take but bro I’m 27 lmao
Awesome video man. Ngl I think you could do a part 2 in the future. Zombies is such a cherished mode there’s a ton of discussion that could be had.
THANKS FOR INCLUDING MY HOT TAKES!!!
Glad to see someone else likes Die Rise. S tier for me, in my top 5.
11:20 I completely get where you are coming from but i guarantee you 99% of the people who complained about bo4s perk system would go in to every game in bo3 and before always getting jug, speed cola, and qr/double tap depending on how many players there are. The arguement about locking yourself to 4 perks just never made sense to me because most perks other than the ones I just mentioned (apart from widows in bo3 and phd in bo1) were never good enough to be bought
Hating the Moon EE is absolutely crazy to me, and if we’ve gotten to the point where the zombies fanbase is so divided that the original finale from BO1 is being looked down upon, then the community is doomed and has forgotten its own roots. The RNG aspects of the EE are annoying, however it’s not unique in that regard at all, as many EE’s utilise some degree of RNG, however when everything goes well then the feeling of completing the Moon EE and finishing the story of BO1 is absolutely cathartic.
Many EE's do have some RNG, that's true, but I don't think anything has ever been as bad as Moon when it comes to RNG. Like I said, the story was fantastic on that map and the blowing up the Earth thing was certainly the most cinematic any EE has been up until that point. But gameplay-wise, I don't think it's good at all.
WW2 is a top 5 zombies game. The maps are honestly all overhated (besides the tortured path) and they have a good balance between easy setups and then more lengthy and engaging quests for those who seek that out. The armour system imo is the closest we ever got to fixing the whole jugg crutch perk "problem" and its also got really fun weapons to use, especially when you pap them :)
Not about zombies, but I really think Extinction was a really really solid 3rd game mode / replacement for Zombies that year. I feel like Extinction gets hated so much for 3 Reasons. 1. It’s NOT zombies thats pretty simple. 2. Ghosts was already getting hated as is. 3. This ties into what I was saying in point 2, but It came after directly Black Ops 2, the Cod Community’s almost Poster Child. So with it being a new mode it was almost destined to fail and like I said it came after BO2, right after Origins, Buried & Mob.
Extinction brought fresh brand new ideas, cool albeit literal side easter eggs like the ‘LOL’ alien dolls, Some cool set pieces Mayday was super fun, a decent story, and a fun gameplay loop seeing as its the Outbreak/MWZ formula . You do a couple objectives and literally exfil especially the first map when you run back to the Heli. (Ik this is super long winded but I really wanted to get my all thoughts out) Extinction got hated so badly they never did it again and only brought it back (Kinda) in IW Zombies.
I feel like if Extinction released after Outbreak or even in place of MWZ this year it would have flourished.
Bo3 is overrated imo, and i dont say that because of the content or the gobblegum. It feels different, a little too fast paced. You have full on sprinters by round 4, and the zombies respawning every time you change rooms gets ridiculous. Also, I've noticed theres no delay between the zombies smacking you, so one sneaky ass zombie could red screen or kill you immediately, even with jug
My most unpopular is Bo4 is amazing I wish people bought it maybe it would have 19 maps like planned at first
I think DE is innovative in that it condensed what origins did and perfected it first. If we didn't get chronicles origins, I believe DE would be loved even more.
Die Maschine might be overrated. I love how simple getting the Die Shockwave and its upgrades is. It's not overcomplicated like the staffs. It feels so good to do every match instead of feeling like a chore that might get you killed halfway through the quest.
Although I wish the variants were better.
I was 100% with the guy’s Cold War take until he said the hardcore players aren’t owed anything. I think he nailed it though, Cold War was a great reboot to the series and put out a good blue print to build on going forward. Generally I think earning points slower and making things more expensive is a good change.
Definitely an unpopular opinion but for me, as a diehard bo3 meatrider, after playing through iw’s super EE i found it to be a way more enjoyable than bo3, overall the map flow in iw suits the game just as much if not slightly more than bo3. I might just have severe burnout from bo3 over the years but if it weren’t for beast from beyond being such a letdown it would be a very very tight contest for best zombies game. Iw had a superb cast with a nice celeb touch for each map. The iw design and story was the most unique of any zombie game including exo zombies and i dont think it will ever get the love and attention it deserves. Bo3 will realistically always be the best zombies game but iw definitely comes second absolutely blowing bo2 out of the water
I mean there’s going to be clutch perks no matter what, but at least with Bo4 you gotta be strategic instead of being an overpowered god in Cold War where you have EVERY ability known to man
Glad some people take off the nostalgia goggles for Cold War
Shadows is the worst map in my opinion due to everything they throw at you. If it was just one boss zombie like the pests, I would be fine with it. The meatballs are basically the RAPS from the multiplayer and the Margwa is a complete pace killer
I personally think outbreak was interesting at first but then it just got boring open world and objective based zombies just doesn't work
Unpopular opinion. I'm not bad at Black Ops 4 just because I hadn't got the kraken before
YAY I was mentioned, I will also say that BOTD should have had the MOTD crew and Primus crew to play as, Alpha Omega is better than all of BO3(except GK), IW, Bo2(except MOTD), BO1, and Exos, thanks for mentioning me
Nuclear Take, that take would absolutely destroy Nuketown.
@@it2spooky4me79 yup it would
@Sandman2000_HotTake you think alpha omega is better than origins?! Jesus christ there's no way you were around since the beginning. Did you join during bo4?
@@scoresdavis3435 I joined during CW, but I love maps like MOTD, GK, COTD, Five, and DOTN
@@Sandman2000_HotTake damm, I KNEW Cold War brought a ton of new people to zombies, felt like BO1 all over again.
I usually play First rooms and no powers and go for World Records.
space land is the best zombies map ever, it has a great easter egg and high rounding doesn’t get repetitive, also dope wonder weapons
Unpopular opinion for me. I think world war II is better than infinite warfare only because of its story and lore
In my opinion, BO3 Zombies is the overrated title. It just gets pretty annoying how high of a pedestal it gets put up on by most of its die hard fans to where they feel the need to detest people who enjoy other games like BO4 or Cold War. Then they bring up Custom Maps being the reason the game is more superior when realistically, not a lot of people have the luxury of accessing and playing those maps. If you like BO3, that’s totally fine. But please just don’t act like you’re better because of it or clown someone else for liking something else.
My personal opinions are IW zombies is the best zombies game oat overhated bc the multiplayer was pay to win but the zombies had the best maps features and super boss fight and directors cut was amazing
Crutch perks weren’t a problem. I don’t think anybody had a problem grabbing the OG four perks every time, especially when certain maps gave us ways to get more than four perks. The problem was the lack of original and creative perks and hardly any ways to get more than four
For me they were only a problemn in some BO3 maps where you can't earn more than 4 perks without gobblegums, but it was never an issue when in BO1 and BO2 they consistently gave a creative, challenging and unique way to get all perks in all maps that had a lot of them available. Gorod and Zetsubou are forgiven in this sense.
I disagree on the GK one. IT has the best atmosphere and I love the map, however some of the Easter Egg "Challenges" are just boring and almost force you to use gums as you have TWO escort steps where you have to slowly escort enemies without killing them (Most of the times in the high teens, low twenties due to the steps before needing multiple rounds), with rounds flipping during these steps and forcing you to flip rounds if you fail. Not to mention the damn bomb step where if you want any kind of luck when not on solo, you pretty much have to record the screen, on top if it literally killing you if you fail and having to flip rounds.
It's my least completed Easter Egg due to some of these challenges which aren't fun and are too punishing if you fail.
The Valkyrie escort is definitely tough but it's pretty easy if you only use the left trigger ability of the Mark 3 and just shoot next to the Valkyrie the whole time (making sure you don't have electric cherry or widows wine).
Then the Mangler escort is pretty simple, just shoot the arm off him and let him run at you.
Obviously they are a lot easier with gobblegums, but those are the best tricks I've learned to make those steps easier.
Then the bomb step, it's probably best to just quickly write down the order as you see it. Like have one person do it. Definitely easier on solo because of being able to pause, that's true.
Only truly memorable part of bo4 was seeing richtofen die. I couldn’t name any of the chaos crew even if I tried hard enough
You had Bruno (the big French dude I think)
Shaw (old British bloke)
Scarlett (woman)
Diego (Spanish dude "personally my favorite character")
Attack of the Radioactive Thing has the BEST easter egg in IW. It legitimately feels like you're figuring things out, because you are, and that's so satisfying.
Don't be mad cause you're bad at math.
I love BO4 new maps but all the remastered maps on BO4 stripped them of their best features.
Tag der totem has no George and no scavenger.
Classified has no pentagon thief and you can't use the presidental safe room to get a break from the zombies.
And blood of the dead removed the afterlife mechanic and removed the plane to San Fran bridge pack a punch.
Zombies was most fun when you can camp or train. And modern maps leave no room to camp anymore.
In the future if this is done again.
I stand by that Due Rise is a good and and very fun map to play. People who complain about falling off the map isn’t a Die Rise problem. Why would you sit near a kedge that you’ll dis from falling off if?
Its like complaining about the robots on origins stepping on you. You just don’t need to be in the foot prints, it isn’t complicated.
My main complaint for the map is that one area where you slide down to a mystery box location, and sometimes you just fall through the floor.
@@it2spooky4me79 i know where your talking about, i played die rise probably like 1,000’s or 10,000’s of times and I’ve only had that happen maybe like twice id say.
@@turbinefromblackops2138 other than that I don't really mind Die Rise, personally I just see it as a mediocre map in my eyes, but with a fun wonder weapon.
@@it2spooky4me79 I can see that, I got a personal love cause the amount of playtime i put onto it. Plus I love its setting a ton
Yeah, wouldnt really say Cold War is overrated or underrated. Most people understand where its flaws are but still enjoy it for what it is. I love the game but there are certain decisions I really cant defend. I do kind of get what they mean by Cold War bringing back classic zombies. While its mechanically very different, the gameplay loop is much more similar to Bo1 and Waw than the newer games.
Don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but the lightning bow is hot garbage, especially compared to the void bow. Un like the lightning bow void has impact damage so it can be used for panic, it can kill more because of the impact damage and the skulls kill more zombies faster.
The only thing the lightning has over the void is that it can be used to camp and revive your friends but if you are playing with friends then you shouldn't be camping. If you are solo then you can train unimpeded because you aren't dancing around your friends.
I think part of the community’s dissatisfaction is that CoD games, and Zombies has felt like the passion has been stripped away for years now, think about what made BO1-3 zombies and what made them great, INTERESTING maps, actual characters we all got attached to for 10 years, and a STORY behind it all, don’t get me wrong, I’m fine with open world, DMZ zombies and other experimental modes but to me what made zombz a great experience was a cast of characters, and the quality of the maps made, the UI/gameplay mechanics felt better, and most of all, the old round based system is just more fun (to me) I’d be more inclined to play the open world style games if there were more than 5 tasks/quests
Real question, how can it be fun ? i always hated the way the round based system works back in the days, when you're round 30-40 every weapon are useless and you can only rely on WW/one weapon like helion salvo on BO4 (or the worst, traps...) to do the job (most of the time if it's not garbage like winter's howl)
I was always bored af when i hit round 40 in old zombie because i knew it would take another hour or so just to get to round 50.
Nothing was hard, just so freaking long because zombie become bullet sponge and to much zombie per round.
I made it to round 100 on Mob and Origins on BO2 solo back in the day and it was the most boring experience ever and never tried it again until cw, even if it's clearly not perfect, it finally made high round fun to me, it is easier but it don't take freaking 10 hours to get round 100 and it keeps the fun much much longer to me.
I’d rather play DE over Origins any day. I don’t want to spend an hour to get a weapon just to sit in a corner. I don’t like Origins but love DE
People say bo3 is the best Zombies map to be ever made. And I do not disagree there. However in my opinion which I consider an underrated feature, the 1 thing that world at war bo2 and arguably bo1 surpass in bo3 is the horror atmosphere/vibes. Zombies is well meant to be scary and waw-bo2 had this horror that made you feel uneasy, for world at war its obvious. For bo2 if you find the radios in tranzit, die rise and listen to them it's unsettling the maps themselves are creepy. While I do consider bo3 having one of the best Zombies experience while I'm not complaining it's just unfortunate that bo3 just failed to creep me out they moved on from like realistic apocalyptic theme to Like myths and gods. Not complaining just unfortunate in my personal opinion
If you watch a video called "Horrors of Bo2 Zombies" By Drrpy you'll see what im trying to say
Imagine bo4 maps and story on bo3 engine. Perfect game
Unpopular Opinion
Cold War Revived Zombies despite its easier Easter Eggs and lack of good story and has the best gameplay fluidity of all zombies also
Alpha Omega was Super Lazy ripped right out of Blackout and also the Elemental Ray Guns were a Huge Let down
If these are unpopular then zombies fans just don’t like the truth. CW brang a ton of new people to zombies with the more easy Easter eggs and outbreak being more open world for the Warzone fans (also highest recorded number of people playing when it was in its lifecycle)
@@Zeal1103CW not being as difficult as previous games zombies was absolutely needed because the zombies community was in absolute shambles after BO4 and I doubt the hardcore community could have kept zombies alive on their own.
Black ops 4 actually aged very well i think the EE are challanging and ther is much to do and CW aged very poorly it was fun when it was just out but not really reason to come back to unless you want a easy highround.
Agreed
I don’t actually think Cold War is overrated because I feel like during it’s life cycle it was overrated because there were so many awful things about it imo such as Loadouts the salvage and just in general the Warzone feeling of picking things off the ground like Monkeys and stuff but also the rarities which is probably controversial but I honestly hated that because I feel like it kind of hurts weapon identity just added Fortnite rarities into zombies like I enjoy some guns being good and some being shit that makes me recognise each one I just feel like rarities make the guns forgettable because of that because the guns are good depending on what rarity more than just how good the actual gun is itself. But anyway as the rest of the games content came out then I feel like the map selection was extremely weak because I feel like all the maps just seem so basic and safe that it gives no real feel of variety to each one imo that really completely takes away replay ability also just like the other points I said earlier
So pretty much my point is I feel like the game was overrated actually during its life cycle would be the best way to put it but I feel like in the community the game has aged like milk because of how poor these mechanics make the games replay ability which gets noticed more of course as time goes on so I think it’s not overrated anymore really
Like I used to like the game right when it launched but now there’s about 6 zombies games I would prefer to go back to over it
By the way it might not actually be a general consensus that it aged like milk or whatever but it’s just what I have personally heard from watching Gulf War wish list videos and stuff
My hot take is that ww2 zombies is the most underrated zombies and had better Easter egg steps then most bo3 Easter eggs and is way more replayable than bo3 ( this one I’m worst 100% but I think l the wonder weapon of ww2 are way better and more fun)
I do prefer the victis storyline over primis
Unpopular opinion, but i think he's right hardcore players aren't owned anything most the fan base is casual and play zombies to kill time and shoot the shit with their friends the only thing that saved zombies was the change in direction in bo2 going down hill to making one of the best maps being mob of the dead when they changed team leads zombies has always been fun and a good time for hardcore players doing their ester eggs and the casual playing with their friends and it's a hill I'm willing to die on
13:21 What’s so special about DE to Dempsey? Has bro played the map?? Dempsey 1.0 is launched to Griffin station from their castle base via a rocket to be used as a test subject for Group 935’s super soldier program.
However given the BO3 narrative of the characters having to eliminate their alternate selves, Primis must get to him first and bring him back down to Griffin Station to do just that.
Point is, I feel like this person just didn’t actually do their research and it makes me think (whether it is or not) that their opinion in almost baseless
The monster in bo3 can also revive teammates
I’ll be honest zombies in space land as the goat is wild 😬😂
I think Die Rise Exo Zombies Elixer guy was being satire…..
MWZ should have just been a pve update for dmz considering dmz is the main basis for MWZ. It was not worth the paywall, and the discontinuation of dmz content. Even if it had to be made a separate thing, it could have been free to play. I played dmz, outbreak, and zombies and enjoy them all. However it is not worth $70 or even picking up a copy of mw3. Even if the multiplayer is good, it was spose to be a DLC to mw2 that was chopped up and sold as a separate game. Not to mention DMZ was canned for MWZ. And we are never getting dmz back because of it. The game itself is not worth the asking price especially when it runs microtransactions.
MWZ should have been its own original thing. Not tied to Treyarch zombies.
I rest my case. Need I say more?
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@@it2spooky4me79 you know it my fellow homosapien
Always stay based my brothers
I need to know what makes Exo Zombies mechanics better than IW and WW2 in your opinion lmao
@@Xpertfusion do you really want to know. Or do you want more hot takes?
Unpopular opinion, people who talk trash about exo zombies are talking bad about it because it’s much harder than other zombies games
Maybe we just hate upgrading 25 times for barely any change. It’s difficult for all the wrong reasons
@@hoothoot7122 cause y’all don’t like exo suit? It’s not the best but it’s not as bad as people say it is
Comeone i ain't fan of what story evolved in bo3 mainly do to fell like sone dark willy wonka stuff...but bo2 is actually great story line
And cold war being awesome like what the heck
It's cool to play it like really this is replaeble...but it ain't exacly what zombies been about
Also perfect solution for perk system is perk limit that makes you work arround it
2:39
Dangerously good take
CZcams be like: MwZ killing zombies, we need BO3 back
While at other spaces it's actually a bit more diverse. I even seen love for Exo Zombies
I have plenty
1.Shangri La is the best map on Bo1 and is one of the best maps in general
2.Besides mods and custom maps Bo3 is mid and overrated
3.Easter eggs were never fun to do besides the occasional boss fight
4.Widows wine is the most overrated perk in the series
5.Modern zombies (CW-MWZ) is brain dead garbage
The Primis Crew is really boring compared to the Ultimis Crew. The Ultimis Crew was funny and stereotypical and had so much personality and were just always a joy to play as where as the Primis Crew to me just feels basic. When they brought back the Ultimis Crew in BO4 I was so happy and I love that they’re also in Alpha Omgea, but I’m always disappointed when I get the Primis Crew over Ultimis Crew when playing that map.
AW + Bo1 = greatest Zombies ever
When you talked about the guy saying the cod community doesn’t like change and how you disagree with that I personally disagree with you disagreeing because when treyark or any other zombies studio try’s something different that’s not round based everyone moans and it’s like do you not get bored of round based because regardless of how much they change the mechanics or perks or whatever it’s still the same concept of round based there is nothing new to the game but round based and it’s like me saying keep OG Fortnite forever but change it slighter every year it would get so boring very fast that’s why you need to change the round based stuff now and then to fresh up the game play if you hate it don’t play it simple as
It’s literally like me banging me head on a wall but every time a do it it’s a different type of wall but it’s still a wall but just different slightly that’s round based every year we get it it’s the same concept but slightly different and it gets boring after a while
I got an unpopular opinion I would honestly prefer prefer transit than die rise. Transit is still bad. Don’t get me wrong. I still will not hesitate to call it transhit any day but die rise. There was so much vertically and the elevators are you kidding me? You’re telling me all the perks are in the elevators and pap. Transit is so shitty that it is kind of fun specially if you’re all set up like the bus could leave and just chill wherever you’re at, however die rise does not have that and because the transit has a little bit of fun to me at least I think transit somehow is a better map and I’m not saying that the pap system and one wonder weapon on die worse than those on transit I’m just saying that die rise is a little worse
My unpopular opinion is that five is an A tier map and that Bo1 is better then Bo2
ps players just want waw,bo1,2&3 but all dlcs free space land in ps catalog
7:10 I love cold war zombies but I gotta disagree it ain't the best imo bo1 zombies was the best because outbreak ruined cold war for me but they should have focused more on round based then outbreak and have kept the original point system
Lol the thumbnail is literally what i say to my friend exo zombies is so good while bo1 is just really boring then we got cw being one of the best with bo3 imo the ones i spend hours playing
I haven’t played much zombies since seeing how bad bo4 was. So many of these hot takes to me I don’t even understand.