Can Big 12 Find Enough Resources To Land Clemson Or Florida St...Or Both?
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Wow! This was a drop-the-mic show for Greg. For his sake, I hope Josh Pate's info actually delivers because he's invested a couple of weeks into boosting his news bomb. All the same, Greg has tried to reset the expectations of the Warchant crowd. None of us ever believed that the Big 12 was even a remote possibility. I personally would like for FSU to be in the B1G. But I think FSU/Clemson to the Big 12 is best for college football. If the P3 ends up at 20-22 teams each then it all works out.
Yeah FSU/Clemson to the Big XII and you have a conference that should be close in value to the B1G SEC. IF either hate it they could still try for 2nd move in 2030. I think FSU/Clemson looks and sees a path to the playoffs most years vs a few more bucks and getting there occasionally. When the ACC dies when UNC/UVA go SEC then we can add 2 more and the money gets better.
I believe too many teams that don't bring too much media value would need to be fed.. but you would probably be closer to 60-70% vs 50% of what the SEC and B10 would make.
With that said I prefer a strong 3rd conference vs a distant 3rd and 4th.
Would have liked the B10 going into FL for recruiting, but if this results in the B10 staying at 20 that includes ND and Stanford, that probably maximizes the B10 value vs having 22 or 24 schools in the meantime.
@@xmositoxc147 I still think the B1G should go after Miami and either stay at 21 and wait to see how things shake out around 2030 to add the 22nd. I think giving the Big 12 all three is too much even if the return is ND. To your point, without FSU, then Miami is on an island. All of a sudden the Georgia Tech cult is active again. LOL
If FSU and Clemson ever joined the Big 12, even if temporarily. Sanky's head would explode. I think those 2 conferences and 2 networks are intent on destroying everything outside of themselves in college sports.
@@lorenzohaynes3886 I think we're going to soon learn that everyone have been totally wrong about the motivations of the B1G and SEC. Their futures are already secure so they can prepare for the next era of college sports. No different than Delaney preparing the B1G for today starting in the 90s.
If Texas A&M is in serious talks with the B1G who likely will be they traveling partner? Kansas would be a great partner just to get a little closer to the state of Texas. I heard chatter of Rice or Tulane but I think both schools are highly unlikely. B1G still can go after FSU with partners of both Miami & GA Tech which leave room for Notre Dame being the 24th addition or maybe the 25th addition if they negotiate to have Stanford to come along. All of this if the B1G cannot get the likes of UNC / Virginia who currently seems to be leaning to the SEC. With the B1G having presence in the cities of Houston, Miami, Atlanta and the area of Florida panhandle will definitely make a dent to the recruiting in major areas of the South for the power schools to get talented recruits.
Start: 2:50 ; resume: 1:01:00 .
I am skeptical of Clemson and Flotilla St to the Big XII. Why? $. It is going to take over $100m to leave the ACC.1: How much can they get from the Big XII to break even? 1a: How long will it take?
Not happening. And neither school would sign a new GOR in any conference other than a P2.
@@davidbrown386 Not of ESPN kills the deal.... FSU can wait 2 years and get out for free
If you are correct and Clemson & Florida St can get out for free, then the Big 10 and SEC might be more interested. Remember both Conferences pay > 2X the Big XII ( not to Mention CFP $
@@davidbrown386 right. FSU/Clemson brand/ego/expectations are not to settle in the B12 with the schools they have. School presidents aren’t looking at the B12 saying we gotta leave the ACC and its peers to go to the B12. Sports matter, but not close to larger school goals (academics/research). Not a chance.
@@davidbrown386 Hmmmmm.... SEC paid out about $51.3M per school in 2023 and the Big XII paid out about $40M per school, not sure that is > 2X?
FSU and Clemson fans will be pissed if they have to go to the Big 12 and not into a Power 2 conference.😂
Idk man I think the big 12 is a pretty solid conference they just don’t have any true blue bloods with FSU and Clemson they’d have them
I thought the host did a great job on dealing with the channel’s resident Big 12 hater BJ who apparently became irate because of the show’s discussion involving Yormark and the Big 12. I had to laugh when BJ after being challenged by the host said he had family members at FSU who emphatically know what the Seminoles are going to do or not do with respect to conference realignment. I don’t even think the President of FSU or members of the Board of Governors know emphatically what is going to happen with their University because there are too many moving pieces. And one of those pieces is the ACC’s media rights agreement with ESPN which now looks like it could end in 2027 rather than 2036. That changes everything.
Since Washington & Oregon are not full members in the Big10, if Big12 could beat out Big10/SEC for FSU/CLEM, what about also winning over Washington & Oregon ???
This whole deal reminds me of the talk of Washington & Oregon to the Big12 right before the Big10 struck their partial share deal.
This could be the scenario we saw play out last year with B12 cracking open the pac 12
Except the B12 took a Colorado, not a USC or Oregon.
If Big XII gets one of or both of FSU/Clemson and Miami, then XII will be truly in competition with SuperWho. Opey is right about Longhorns, they would follow A&M to B1G just to ruin their wedding!
Big 12 playing chess while SEC and B1G are playing checkers
😂😂 Yeah, that's it. A conference that makes less than the B1G and SEC?! A conference that got the leftovers of the PAC, not the top teams? A conference that lost its 2 money makers to the SEC? Your idea of checkers vs chess is weak.
How is the Big 12 playing chess when they only have checker chips on the board? Just because Yormark is talking loud doesn't mean FSU, Clemson, UNC is seriously thinking on leaving a downtrodden ACC for a lesser and farther Big 12. It's all Cloak & Dagger at this point.
@treyabbey6477 Those are a lot of words to say "nuh-uh."
@@devilfrawg4953 How original
@@treyabbey6477 See! You can use fewer words.
I want FSU in the B1G. Ughhh this sux
I woild be surprised if FSU would go Big 12 .But Clemson & Miami with Duke, Louisville & NCST Would be Great! FSU has invested tooo much, they'd rather go independent.
Big 12 eating 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th 😂
Big 12 will eat first, second, third and fourth
Hearing JD shift slightly hurt.
As someone who wants FSU in the B10 for florida recruiting, with all the FSU youtubbers giving the fanbase BS, i would be devastated if it resulted in the Big12 as the final destination.
I doubt it would happen. I'd have to see it to believe it. But, FSU and Clemson need everything they can to negotiate the best situation for themselves. So I'd let it play out. On a side note...... FSU especially, but FSU and Clemson. There's one thing. Texas and Oklahoma are in the SEC. And in the Big 12, you have Houston and TCU. Not to mention those other Texas schools. But trust me when I tell you. Texas would rip the SEC apart before they would sit back and let FSU be in the same conference as Houston. FSU playing and recruiting in Dallas and Houston..... A&M, Oklahoma, and Texas would lose their minds. It's not gonna happen.
Texas couldn't do anything about it other than cry foul to the high schools. Florida State isn't recruiting outside of Florida all that much anyway. They don't have to.
If history is any indicator, won’t Texas rip apart the SEC anyway?
Greg the Heater getting heated on this show.
If P2 no longer becomes a probable outcome for FSU and Clemson, the best course of action would be to drop the lawsuits and everyone stays put. Better to come back to the ACC in shame than to pay millions for UNC, UVA, Miami, etc to go to the P2 while you are still on the outside looking in.
Sadly FSU could be losing the war.
Choice 1: go to big 12 as only option and ESPN wins
Choice 2: drop the case and stay in the ACC so a team like UNC would have to fight their own way out so you aren’t just paying for other teams to skip free to the P2 and the ACC wins
Greg knows way more than he can tell right now.
I love reading these Big 12 fantasies. It must be media days.
Big 12 is about to grab FSU and BJ is going to blow his top
John Kutz? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Guy is an FSU hater. The Paul Finebaum of the B12.
Ok, I'm a little worried that the Big 12 actually could get FSU. To me, they are the 2nd coming of Texas; too big, too rich, too loud! PASS.
I'd pay a chunk of a billion to get North Carolina, Duke, NCST,, Miami & Louisville.
Maybe Clemson, Pitt & VTech.
For non-football schools, I'd add Gonzaga, Marquette & UConn.
Maybe, Creighton, Villanova & St Johns.
I have zero interest in watching games between FSU and any Big 12 teams. FSU vs Iowa State or Arizona? No way that has value to the networks. Clemson vs KSU or Baylor, yuck.
I feel the same about USC v Illinois , UCLA v Wisconsin, Cal v SMU. Gross 🤢
You can always tell when people don't know football.
BJ = Western Civic, lol
All the schools that voted for Stanford SMU and Cal aren't going anywhere. The ACC will be ahead of the Big 12 with the ACC network and better academics. They will go back in forth at sports, but the Big 12 won't dominate the ACC in athletics like they want you to believe.Yawn
😂 All the schools that want to leave cited SMU, Cal, and Stanford as the reasons why. 😂
@@devilfrawg4953 That's why I said all the schools that voted for Stanford SMU and Cal. Take a break off the meth pipe mid 12 fan boy.
@Mar2bv You say that like a majority wasn't required to add them. Perhaps you should take your own advice.
Hint: Even schools that voted to add SMU and Calford will bail on the ACC when FSU and Clemson bail.
ACC fourth in sports is exactly correct.
Mid Atlantic Conference RIP
Big 12 is not getting lateral moves from the acc.
FSU & Clemson are both headed to the SEC in 2026.
Big 12, just needs to stop thinking they will even land an acc team. Wont happen.
Butthurt PAC fans said the same thing.