I love the authenticity of this sort of conditioning. It's a shame that most of the schools these days with "2-year black belt programs" get accredited for the image of true martial arts. Most of their students don't even know what makiwara is. Great video. All Martial Arts enthusiasts should definitely know what spending weekly hours to increase bone density looks and feels like.
People, people, people. This is certainly correct training. Without any doubt! Despite what is self evident some persons have commented that this doesn't look correct to them. Those are the people who have never done Makiwara training themselves. Only real Karate/Kung-Fu men do this training. If it is done incorrectly you stand a good chance of receiving a serious sprain, or broken joint for your troubles. There are only two or three different variations on Makiwara training worth doing. Each ends up with a slightly different result. Those that have honestly trained in the JKA know that the two most important concepts are Kime and Kata. The addition of Makiwara training gives the student devastating power. It is not one element alone that gives function to form. There are several that must come together at the right moment. Thank you very much for sharing. Keep practicing. Keep learning. Follow the Way. Peace.
Your welcome. It can be confusing so if you have any questions feel free to ask me. I am 59 years old and have been doing martial arts since I was 9! I am a 7th degree, in TKD, 5th degree in two other styles and a 3rd in 2 more. soon testing for my Grandmaster's. One other tip...some styles on the chop like to use the fleshy part of the hand's edge, some like to use the bone part on that side. The Koreans like to use the rounded part of the bone just below the edge. (After conditioning it)
@CHRIS RAMMSTEIN. Obviously the guy works on strengthening and conditioning his hands and feet to tolerate damage and pain. A lot of good "cardio" does if your fist breaks on a guys skull.
If you don't want to use the buckets, get an old phone book and set it up for striking. A stack of old newspapers works just as well. You can mount it to the wall, by attaching it to a board. Or set it on the floor or a couple of large bricks.If you have a hanging bag attach it to the bag. Strike the makiwara about 20 times for whatever technique you are using. Maybe 2x's a day. Or if time is a factor, 40 x's once a day. I strike 500 times a day, but have been doing this for 40+ years.
You can use makiwaras that don't require building. Just remember that whatever you strike HAS to give. Otherwise you can get overenthused and hurt yourself. Get a Home Depot type bucket start with rice first, beans 2nd, sand 3rd and finally add pebbles. (That makes 4 buckets when finished.) You can continue to use all buckets when training to warm up for the last pebble bucket. Also, some strikes work better in one bucket or another. Soak your hands in salt water, hot as you can take for 20 min.
these techniques are in the UFC already... vitor belfort, and lyto machida both use this technique and im not 100% sure but i think shogun rua has had training too.
what kind of wood is best used for the stand? i have my makiwara on a 2x6 piece of construction lumber. its not as flexible or give as much as the one youre using, i doubled it at the bottom for shin conditioning. is that a bad move? should it be more flexible?
Shin conditioning on a Makiwara? Without seeing what you set up it is hard to give you a correct opinion. However, I can say that in my over forty years of training I never saw anyone use a makiwara this way. There are other much more suitable tools for shin conditioning. Such as a roll bar made of wood. Make sure to use an authentic Dit Dow Ja. And find a qualified instructor who is willing to guide you through such training. Your zeal is commendable but take your time. Body conditioning is a matter of decades. Not months. There are no short cuts. Peace.
I am a brown belt in Japanese and tracey's kenpo and a black in judo i believe that a roundhouse can be done as a cresent round house axe kick it can be done with the ball of you're foot
One thing I would like to know about makiwara training which is never mentioned is how many repetitions to perform and how many sessions each day? I met a high ranking Shotokan stylist at a seminar once whose two striking knuckles looked like golf balls with calluses on top. Being hit by a fist like this would be like being hit by a ball peen hammer! Try as I may, I have not been able to develop knuckles like these. I would like to know how.
One does not simply start striking a makiwara. As one comment mentioned you’ll do serious damage. Striving for perfection of technique is paramount. Proper Zanchin, Kime, Mushin is required and takes much time to attain through practice. You might want to look into Iron Palm training which begins with deep thrusts into pinto beans, rock salt and small lime stone. Also a proper sissel rope board is used to strike palms and back hands to attain proper mind control over pain to name just a few. This is not something one enters into lightly. But it is necessary to attain proper striking force with focus.
You're free to have your opinion on the matter, of course. Just saying, if you're gonna claim something, make sure it's based on fact and your viewpoint, that's all. We all feel strongly about martial arts, but it's important that we stay objective and take things for what they are, not what we wish for them to be. That's all, good talking to you.
What kind of wood are you using for your machiwara. I'm using yellow poplar. Seems to work well but I'm open to other suggestions too. I'm looking for a balance between flexibility and strength.
Hello Jonathon, you wrote your comment 8 years ago. Have you been training ever since? If yes, you must have collected a lot of experience. Could you please share your thoughts with us e.g. on building a makiwara?
@@David-ku7mt hi David, well, I am still using yellow poplar. A friend of mine uses a spoke shaver to taper the board. he makes it a training experience by squatting in shiko dachi over and over as he creates the machiwara. and his students participate because there are a number of posts in his dojo. I (ahem) use a power planer because I am impatient. But we both round the back edge of the machiwara to give it some lateral flex. I am not a fan of super stiff machiwara. I broke an oak machiwara long ago, probably because, by the time I got it as flexible as I liked, it had some weak points. With poplar, I can have a thicker board overall that bends without breaking. But it's stronger than something like, say yellow pine. In Okinawa they use a species of beech (at least they did in both of the dojo I trained at).
Exsellent training ,is far too little done am i the only practicing makiwara in a club of about 150 members ,you see !!! so keep up the good work , thnx for the video..ossss and *bow *..@jkaorkney
+Elbarrelboy Lee might want to just rest for a week. the way I do my makiwara training is like how I do body hardening so I don't damage anything too bad. I train makiwara for one week and give it a break for another week and continuously do it like that.
+Elbarrelboy Lee. Without knowing your physiology it is difficult to help, some people find it difficult to do even press-ups on their knuckles purely because of their physiology, never mind strike the makiwara. In general I would recommend building up slowly, if your knuckles graze, then let them heal completely before continuing. I am a typesetter for a living and the care of my hands is very important. On saying that, it should be possible to build up your makiwara training slowly until you can train with your 'wooden parnter' on a regular basis. Eventually the outer surface of your knuckles should gain a more resilliant callous (thicker skin) over the striking areas. Hope this helps, I am sure others will give you are more eloquent description. p.s. no need to apologise for your English, it is much better than my Argentinian! kindest regards.
There's actually two ways the roundhouse can be done: 1) striking with the instep, toes curled down; 2) with the ball of the foot, toes curled up. Most dojos only teach using the instep because it is easier pull off and doesn't require as much flexibility and accuracy and patience as with the ball of the foot.
Maybe so, maybe not, but that's beside the point. You said that there is no such thing as 11th dan or higher, I'm just pointing out there is in Ninjutsu. Why they have it like that and what it should be today is another discussion altogether, and a matter of opinion since neither of us study the art. You also said 10th dan isn't across the board in Japanese martial arts, but that's not entirely true. Virtually all Japanese arts have 10th dan, several of which only give it upon one's death.
Erm......the yoko kekomi geri seems to be being executed at an odd angle.......Surely as it is a side thrust kick, it should be heading towards the makiwara at a different angle to the way it is, which looks more like half a ushiro geri.....? I trained under many Sensei including Kanazawa, Enoeda, Kase, and Asano, and never saw any of them execute a side kick as portrayed in this video.
At one time, I also worked on makiwara in the rack, I worked for a long time, although I participated in the sports kumite, but after I got in the face in a real street fight, I realized that it was all nonsense and slightly corrected my practice ... khen-do has a very practical work with a dummy opponent. And in China there are very interesting practices
Seems somewhat strange to me that after all these years, the crude makiwara is still favoured by so many. Surely in the 21st century there's something better? I also reckon if you could rig up something you could generate enough power to light-up a city. ;)
Yeah, I see what you mean. IMHO, after Masaaki Hatsumi and Stephen Hayes or their predecessors, there's really no other Bujinkan instructors worth talking about.
Anyone who reaches a Black Belt level, honestly; should have the respect that comes with the rank. It all varies from school to school. I have known some that will give you the next rank if they think you are going to quit. So Westerner or not, 3rd dan is high...you are a third of the way now. The ranking has gotten way out of hand now...some declare to be 12th, even 14th dan! In TKD it only goes as far as 9th and usually 10th is reserved for the deceased. I think Judo Does go to 10th or 11th.
@chris Rammstein, how blatantly disrespectful..... Grow up! If you don't have anything good to say, don't waste your time looking at hard working individuals on youtube, get yourself on Jeremy Kyle... He loves people like you.
Ninjitsu is very old martial art whose goal is meant to kill your enemy.Now Chinese also had almost the same "ninjas" before the Japanese people. I don't believe in ninjitsu having the same ranking system as Karate.
Be that as it may, Ninjutsu has adopted the same kyu/dan ranking system that all budo arts have borrowed from Kodokan judo. Only difference is theirs has more dan levels.
...without any disrespect, this Sensei only punch with his strength; his big and that s what we see here. NO penetration in his punch only force. In my opinion, most here in Occident we do not understand for what a makiwara training is. Also I checked the clip besides:"MAKIWARA DEMONSTRATION" that looks like a real thing
I believe I understand what you mean slightly. He seems to be using his arm to do all the punching, and lacking in hip movement. He doesn't use his full range of motion which is why the penetration is also lacking.
I'm absolutely in accord with what you said....It's visible that he uses the strength of the shoulders, we don't see the contraction of the belly, that brings kime....But many videos that show makiwara training show the mistakes....
Have you ever thought that maybe just maybe they adopted the higher ranking system just so you can pay them more money.Ninjitsu is old and by that I mean very old so we don't exactly know how shit worked back then.Ninjas were not samurai because Ninja killed Samurai. Today version of ninjitsu is so stupid it's unbelievable.Did you know that in WWII there were some Ninja still existed in that time.Today's ninjitsu should work on TODAY version(guns,knifes) not the Katana and big ass stick version.
C'est ce que j'appelle le karaté "efficace" et s'est perdu dans les pratiques "féminisées" d'aujourd'hui. je me suis aussi beaucoup entraîné au makiwara pour avoir des mains d'acier et des coups de pieds solides. This is what I call "efficient" karate and got lost in the "feminized" practices of today. I also trained a lot in makiwara to have steel hands and strong kicks.
knowledge? first who made makiwara also have no information about materials. no knowledge in not a problem, must try with materials what u have and go for it!!
I love the authenticity of this sort of conditioning. It's a shame that most of the schools these days with "2-year black belt programs" get accredited for the image of true martial arts. Most of their students don't even know what makiwara is. Great video. All Martial Arts enthusiasts should definitely know what spending weekly hours to increase bone density looks and feels like.
Finally…! A karateka that knows how to properly strike a makiwara. Full demonstration of focus and power with Mushin. Karate is alive in this video.
People, people, people. This is certainly correct training. Without any doubt! Despite what is self evident some persons have commented that this doesn't look correct to them. Those are the people who have never done Makiwara training themselves. Only real Karate/Kung-Fu men do this training. If it is done incorrectly you stand a good chance of receiving a serious sprain, or broken joint for your troubles. There are only two or three different variations on Makiwara training worth doing. Each ends up with a slightly different result. Those that have honestly trained in the JKA know that the two most important concepts are Kime and Kata. The addition of Makiwara training gives the student devastating power. It is not one element alone that gives function to form. There are several that must come together at the right moment.
Thank you very much for sharing. Keep practicing. Keep learning. Follow the Way.
Peace.
beautiful technique and one could fall in love with those makiwaras
Beautiful video! Traditional karate conditioning. Thank you for sharing. Oss🥋
really love this video...thank you
I like the simple approach here
Great demonstration Sensei
Your welcome. It can be confusing so if you have any questions feel free to ask me. I am 59 years old and have been doing martial arts since I was 9! I am a 7th degree, in TKD, 5th degree in two other styles and a 3rd in 2 more. soon testing for my Grandmaster's. One other tip...some styles on the chop like to use the fleshy part of the hand's edge, some like to use the bone part on that side. The Koreans like to use the rounded part of the bone just below the edge. (After conditioning it)
Great technique! :)
Great power. I like it!
That's exactly what I am talking about.I am glad you understand.There are so little of good instructors today, maybe two or three as you listed.
Wow that's amazing the power he has in his hits and he looks older and can still move like that.
You should see Mario Higaonna hit the makiwara! And he is in his 90s!
Excellent form! 👍
Mi profesor de karate rompió uno, hace 30 años, se quedó campeón del mundo en Shinto Riu.
Nice form and technique.
Muy buen vídeo. Gracias.
Oss!!
thank you very much for this video
Awsome techniques!
All action .. no talk .. that's great
Excelente entrenó makiwara..Karate tradicional...oss
Karatê de verdade...👏👏👏👏👍🙏
Excellent!
nice video and tecnique. Very inspiring...
Looks good to me. Good techniques. Nice form.
Very good demo and technique like it OSS.
being consistent
regular practice
prevent injury
Correct. Thank you!
This is real shotokan karate oss
@CHRIS RAMMSTEIN. Obviously the guy works on strengthening and conditioning his hands and feet to tolerate damage and pain. A lot of good "cardio" does if your fist breaks on a guys skull.
Хорошая техника!
thanks for the tip
If you don't want to use the buckets, get an old phone book and set it up for striking. A stack of old newspapers works just as well. You can mount it to the wall, by attaching it to a board. Or set it on the floor or a couple of large bricks.If you have a hanging bag attach it to the bag. Strike the makiwara about 20 times for whatever technique you are using. Maybe 2x's a day. Or if time is a factor, 40 x's once a day. I strike 500 times a day, but have been doing this for 40+ years.
You can use makiwaras that don't require building. Just remember that whatever you strike HAS to give. Otherwise you can get overenthused and hurt yourself. Get a Home Depot type bucket start with rice first, beans 2nd, sand 3rd and finally add pebbles. (That makes 4 buckets when finished.) You can continue to use all buckets when training to warm up for the last pebble bucket. Also, some strikes work better in one bucket or another. Soak your hands in salt water, hot as you can take for 20 min.
these techniques are in the UFC already... vitor belfort, and lyto machida both use this technique and im not 100% sure but i think shogun rua has had training too.
ossuu sensey saludos de bolivia
Very nice.
His YT name is JKAOrney, JKA is a major Shotokan branch.
I did not see that mawashi geri coming. Thumbs up.
Does anyone have any tips or instructional links on how to build a good makiwara? I'm especialy interested in how to mount teh base.
what kind of wood is best used for the stand? i have my makiwara on a 2x6 piece of construction lumber. its not as flexible or give as much as the one youre using, i doubled it at the bottom for shin conditioning. is that a bad move? should it be more flexible?
Shin conditioning on a Makiwara? Without seeing what you set up it is hard to give you a correct opinion. However, I can say that in my over forty years of training I never saw anyone use a makiwara this way. There are other much more suitable tools for shin conditioning. Such as a roll bar made of wood. Make sure to use an authentic Dit Dow Ja. And find a qualified instructor who is willing to guide you through such training. Your zeal is commendable but take your time. Body conditioning is a matter of decades. Not months. There are no short cuts.
Peace.
Perfects kicks!!!
I have one at work (tattoo shop) & 2 at home. Indoor and outdoor
This shotokan looks like goju ryu morio higaonna school.
Bravo !
@zombiejoker911 there is a reason why all this tradiditonal martial arts survive hundreds and thousands of years : )
👏👏👏👏
good
I am a brown belt in Japanese and tracey's kenpo and a black in judo i believe that a roundhouse can be done as a cresent round house axe kick it can be done with the ball of you're foot
@JKAOrkney What is the wood please?
One thing I would like to know about makiwara training which is never mentioned is how many repetitions to perform and how many sessions each day? I met a high ranking Shotokan stylist at a seminar once whose two striking knuckles looked like golf balls with calluses on top. Being hit by a fist like this would be like being hit by a ball peen hammer! Try as I may, I have not been able to develop knuckles like these. I would like to know how.
One does not simply start striking a makiwara. As one comment mentioned you’ll do serious damage. Striving for perfection of technique is paramount. Proper Zanchin, Kime, Mushin is required and takes much time to attain through practice. You might want to look into Iron Palm training which begins with deep thrusts into pinto beans, rock salt and small lime stone. Also a proper sissel rope board is used to strike palms and back hands to attain proper mind control over pain to name just a few. This is not something one enters into lightly. But it is necessary to attain proper striking force with focus.
Vorrei sapere di quali materiali avrei bisogno per costruirli.grazie.mille
would love to have a machiwara but i have no knowledge in woodcraft or anything like that.
You're free to have your opinion on the matter, of course. Just saying, if you're gonna claim something, make sure it's based on fact and your viewpoint, that's all. We all feel strongly about martial arts, but it's important that we stay objective and take things for what they are, not what we wish for them to be. That's all, good talking to you.
What kind of wood are you using for your machiwara. I'm using yellow poplar. Seems to work well but I'm open to other suggestions too. I'm looking for a balance between flexibility and strength.
Hello Jonathon, you wrote your comment 8 years ago. Have you been training ever since? If yes, you must have collected a lot of experience. Could you please share your thoughts with us e.g. on building a makiwara?
@@David-ku7mt hi David, well, I am still using yellow poplar. A friend of mine uses a spoke shaver to taper the board. he makes it a training experience by squatting in shiko dachi over and over as he creates the machiwara. and his students participate because there are a number of posts in his dojo. I (ahem) use a power planer because I am impatient. But we both round the back edge of the machiwara to give it some lateral flex. I am not a fan of super stiff machiwara. I broke an oak machiwara long ago, probably because, by the time I got it as flexible as I liked, it had some weak points. With poplar, I can have a thicker board overall that bends without breaking. But it's stronger than something like, say yellow pine. In Okinawa they use a species of beech (at least they did in both of the dojo I trained at).
@@Jakneife Thank you very much for the quick response and sharing your experience with us! Osu!
notice how he is using the ball of the foot or "front heel"
What style is this? shorin ryu? Gujo? Shotokan?
How many sequencies of how many moves?
Makiwara training good 👍👍👍 ශ්රී 🇱🇰
Where to buy these stuffs. I need them
Yes, this looks more like the traditional Karate with a more realistic Makiwara boards...!!!
Oss sensei🐯👍💪💪💪👊
I am pretty sure it can also be done with the ball of the foot. Try it, and if you do competition karate, make it chudan :-)
is this clean?
I need to make one of these,with my present makiwara i really hurt fists badly(it is only wood lol) :D
Ossu excelente
Unlike you, I do not like hurting myself, I am not an emo thank you very much!
Exsellent training ,is far too little done am i the only practicing makiwara in a club of about 150 members ,you see !!! so keep up the good work , thnx for the video..ossss and *bow *..@jkaorkney
nice ; )
can this be used in an actual fight?
or ufc for example?
funny how shuto uke got called a block when its pretty clearly a strike
It's called Uke because the so-called "preparation" movement is the actual block, and then your strike with the sword hand.
Oss!
I hurt my knuckles with the makiwara. What can i do? (Sorry for my english, I'm argentinian)
+Elbarrelboy Lee thats the point of doing it.. to harden/strengthen your knuckles/fists/hands
+MrPeter1337 Ah ok thank you. I will continue training hard!!!! And again gracias amigo!! Haha
+Elbarrelboy Lee might want to just rest for a week. the way I do my makiwara training is like how I do body hardening so I don't damage anything too bad. I train makiwara for one week and give it a break for another week and continuously do it like that.
+mikey seweyestwa Ok thank you. I will try to do it like you :)
+Elbarrelboy Lee. Without knowing your physiology it is difficult to help, some people find it difficult to do even press-ups on their knuckles purely because of their physiology, never mind strike the makiwara. In general I would recommend building up slowly, if your knuckles graze, then let them heal completely before continuing. I am a typesetter for a living and the care of my hands is very important. On saying that, it should be possible to build up your makiwara training slowly until you can train with your 'wooden parnter' on a regular basis. Eventually the outer surface of your knuckles should gain a more resilliant callous (thicker skin) over the striking areas. Hope this helps, I am sure others will give you are more eloquent description. p.s. no need to apologise for your English, it is much better than my Argentinian! kindest regards.
There's actually two ways the roundhouse can be done: 1) striking with the instep, toes curled down; 2) with the ball of the foot, toes curled up. Most dojos only teach using the instep because it is easier pull off and doesn't require as much flexibility and accuracy and patience as with the ball of the foot.
Oss
good hips for an old fulla ;)
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Maybe so, maybe not, but that's beside the point. You said that there is no such thing as 11th dan or higher, I'm just pointing out there is in Ninjutsu. Why they have it like that and what it should be today is another discussion altogether, and a matter of opinion since neither of us study the art. You also said 10th dan isn't across the board in Japanese martial arts, but that's not entirely true. Virtually all Japanese arts have 10th dan, several of which only give it upon one's death.
Erm......the yoko kekomi geri seems to be being executed at an odd angle.......Surely as it is a side thrust kick, it should be heading towards the makiwara at a different angle to the way it is, which looks more like half a ushiro geri.....?
I trained under many Sensei including Kanazawa, Enoeda, Kase, and Asano, and never saw any of them execute a side kick as portrayed in this video.
Is 3rd dan high?
He teaches me, think hes a 2nd dan now
Oh....then farewell. Osu!
Like :)
At one time, I also worked on makiwara in the rack, I worked for a long time, although I participated in the sports kumite, but after I got in the face in a real street fight, I realized that it was all nonsense and slightly corrected my practice ... khen-do has a very practical work with a dummy opponent. And in China there are very interesting practices
صلوا على رسول الله محمد
Seems somewhat strange to me that after all these years, the crude makiwara is still favoured by so many. Surely in the 21st century there's something better? I also reckon if you could rig up something you could generate enough power to light-up a city. ;)
WA0.punch.strong.death.continue.
Yeah, I see what you mean. IMHO, after Masaaki Hatsumi and Stephen Hayes or their predecessors, there's really no other Bujinkan instructors worth talking about.
Anyone who reaches a Black Belt level, honestly; should have the respect that comes with the rank. It all varies from school to school. I have known some that will give you the next rank if they think you are going to quit. So Westerner or not, 3rd dan is high...you are a third of the way now. The ranking has gotten way out of hand now...some declare to be 12th, even 14th dan! In TKD it only goes as far as 9th and usually 10th is reserved for the deceased. I think Judo Does go to 10th or 11th.
@chris Rammstein, how blatantly disrespectful..... Grow up! If you don't have anything good to say, don't waste your time looking at hard working individuals on youtube, get yourself on Jeremy Kyle... He loves people like you.
Ninjitsu is very old martial art whose goal is meant to kill your enemy.Now Chinese also had almost the same "ninjas" before the Japanese people.
I don't believe in ninjitsu having the same ranking system as Karate.
All Japanese martial arts don't go across 10th-dan and there is no such thing as 11th-dan or higher.
Be that as it may, Ninjutsu has adopted the same kyu/dan ranking system that all budo arts have borrowed from Kodokan judo. Only difference is theirs has more dan levels.
...without any disrespect, this Sensei only punch with his strength; his big and that s what we see here. NO penetration in his punch only force. In my opinion, most here in Occident we do not understand for what a makiwara training is. Also I checked the clip besides:"MAKIWARA DEMONSTRATION" that looks like a real thing
+Dinzel Walker-Smith or just look up "makiwara demonstration" or "michiko onaga training" THATS how you hit a makiwara or punch in general
he is hitting it for conditioning, not for show
Si yo opino igual que tu
I believe I understand what you mean slightly.
He seems to be using his arm to do all the punching, and lacking in hip movement. He doesn't use his full range of motion which is why the penetration is also lacking.
I'm absolutely in accord with what you said....It's visible that he uses the strength of the shoulders, we don't see the contraction of the belly, that brings kime....But many videos that show makiwara training show the mistakes....
Typo: meant to say based on fact and not your viewpoint.
There is in ninjutsu, though.
Have you ever thought that maybe just maybe they adopted the higher ranking system just so you can pay them more money.Ninjitsu is old and by that I mean very old so we don't exactly know how shit worked back then.Ninjas were not samurai because Ninja killed Samurai.
Today version of ninjitsu is so stupid it's unbelievable.Did you know that in WWII there were some Ninja still existed in that time.Today's ninjitsu should work on TODAY version(guns,knifes) not the Katana and big ass stick version.
C'est ce que j'appelle le karaté "efficace" et s'est perdu dans les pratiques "féminisées" d'aujourd'hui.
je me suis aussi beaucoup entraîné au makiwara pour avoir des mains d'acier et des coups de pieds solides.
This is what I call "efficient" karate and got lost in the "feminized" practices of today.
I also trained a lot in makiwara to have steel hands and strong kicks.
Vam by batenka zivot pomenshe...
Ili poyas podlinnee..
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knowledge? first who made makiwara also have no information about materials. no knowledge in not a problem, must try with materials what u have and go for it!!
are you pregnant???
Lose the gut
Lose the attitude. I bet he can lose the gut first. Whose taking bets?
@@stefanschleps8758 What attitude
Oss!
Oss!!