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DIY Drill Powered Drum Sander Jig
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2021
- I came up with the idea for this drill powered DIY drum sander jig about halfway through my last project that required me to thickness some already very thin wood veneer bookmarks down even further as the random orbital sander would be too aggressive for the fragile pieces and too slow to take them down to where I wanted them. It was designed on the fly with nothing more than good intentions of using my existing router sled as the base, a piece of PVC pipe for the drum, normal sandpaper, and whatever I had lying around the workshop.
I couldn't believe it actually worked but is still more of a prototype than a completed tool. I can see version 2.0 of this with a solid axle, real bearings, proper drum paper and a static drum with an adjustable bed to improve the accuracy. However, for what it is, I was darn chuffed it got the job done!
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James, this is a great example of what any designer’s in history have had to go through mate, you’ve a knack of thinking on your feet so really well done mate 👏👏👏🇦🇺🍺👍
Thanks Sumo. You learn by osmosis on youtube. I've seen the idea before in a few places, but I don't think I've actually watched a build video. Still, the collection of ideas filed away come in useful and you end up with a sweet little jig :D
I too, use the hammer for the fine adjustments! ☺️ Gonna be on the lookout for V2! ☺️
You might be waiting a while, not a tool I regularly require, but I'll file away the idea from when I'm in need 😉 Cheers Luke.
Great job of getting the results you wanted by using what you had to hand. 👍
Just! 😊 It's always a fun balance between getting the job done with what's on hand and making your life overly complicated by not just buying a piece that would solve an issue more easily... Like a single piece of threaded rod for an able axle 😅
I love the fast that you at each step you mentioned that there is so many ways to do this.
Jig making is an art more than a science at times 😊 Many ways to get to the same point.
Great video James. I might have to have a try of making one of these too. Anything that reduces sanding time.
Oh do check the comments and other vids researching this one! I mean, it worked, but it was a one off jig. Concept is good but needs refining if you want a tool that will function long term with decent results 😊
Well, it worked and that's all that matters. Surely a piece of threaded rod would make it all more stable, as would some thicker rod an bearings (but than it actually becomes building a machine). I made one a while ago, and it worked for the things I needed to make, but by now... well, let's say I have to start all over again. All the best from The Lonesome Hill!
I was so close! I had a piece of rod but it was 10cm too short! A solid axle, a few bearings, dust hood and making the bed move instead of the drum and I think there's a machine there.
Fabulous job! It does what it needs to do, and as you said, you can think of improvements already. Great video as always :)
Cheers Danny. I'll need to find a regular application for it to justify a better build but at least I know it should work :D
Great video, I enjoyed watching you learn as you went along. This has inspired me to take on a similar build in the future.
It was a handy proof of concept, and served it's purpose. A version 2 would look a lot different. Real bearings, a solid rod, and a fixed axil with the feed board on a hinge to adjust height ;)
Interesting solution.
That's one word for it 😁 ...'functional' would be another... that's about it ;)
I haven't seen tee nuts used in this manner before. I really like how accessible this build is -- anyone with some fairly basic tools can build a machine like this! Dainer Made sent me. New Subscriber now.
Cheers Scott! Yes this is definitely in the 'jig' catagory of bulds, rough and ready, but it works. There are many better designs for a more permanent DIY sander. He's good people Mark... makes me feel bad I'm about to slander him in my next video... 🤣
Awesome jig James ! Im gonna have to give this a go, Cheers !
Solid axle, a few bearings, and a dust hood and it's a real machine ;) Also Kilby suggested a belt and pulley to remove the drill vibration which is very clever.
@@FixitFingers Yea thats what I was thinking too. Im also always on the lookout for a single phase motor thats been thrown out.
Love a great home made tool, and this is awesome.
Hadn't made one for a while. It is good fun and gets you out of a tight spot!
Rule number one in any mans workshop..... It's not stupid if it works! Kick arse job my friend
The next suggestion was to add 4 knives and make it a thicknesser. What could possibly go wrong? 😂
@@FixitFingers I don't see how that could not work well
Hi James-Thanks for posting. I am definitely going to attempt this project. I like the idea of having a drum sander that doesn’t take up much space. Most of the parts I sand are pretty small.
It's very scalable. As I've mentioned in other comments, grab some bearings and a proper axle and she'll be a great little unit 😀
that's pretty cool James mate - I was going to say threaded rod as well but I see old Gerrit already suggested that - it's cheap as chips as well. 👍
Yes I was annoyed I didnt have an axle long enough lying around and in true rubbish wood style didnt want to buy anything. Next time!
I saw you use this in your previous video and I am happy to see how you made it. Lots of fun to watch for a clever jig. That is definitely thinking outside the box!!
Ironically one of the things this design could most do with (after a solid axle) ... is a box 😂
Great proof of concept!
Always good to know something will work before dedicating decent time and materials to the project!!
nice... I have thought about a doing a very similar thing... but I also have a couple of spare electric motors and some pullys to gear it down... hmmmm got me thinking again
It's a pretty basic machine that with a few better bits like an axle with bearings and a dust hood could work fantastically well for the home workshop. Have a poke around the tubes, Ive not watched them but there are lots of 'proper' DIY versions of this around.
As always, Guinea is a legendary video, congratulations, I wish you success☺️👍🏻🔔
Hmm... Did this publish early. I thought I had it scheduled for 6pm tonight Sydney time... 12 hours away 😂
Not a bad little proto type drum sander, mate. 👍🏽
She works well for a wobbly ole girl!👌🏽😉
Well you'd be wobbly too if you only had two recycled furniture bolts holding you together 🤣🤣 It did however work much better than expected! :D
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Mate, I'd be a wee bit more than wobbly if I had two bolts stuck in me!😳
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Great job James, I am glad it all worked out for you. But I agree the jankyness is a bit of a problem, lol!
Well at least I didn't cop a sanding drum in the eye... 😂
@@FixitFingers 🤣🤣
Nice work great idea to get started with. I was contemplating purchasing a Supermax 16/32 Drum Sander but can't justify the cost just one or 2 reoccuring applications. I'm now gong to work on this one James. Thank you!
This design is definitely in the single use jig category, but with a little effort and some of the suggestions in the other comments could be a more permanent workshop fixture and a lot more precise. Either way it will save a tonne of $$$ compared to a real one :D
Built a few drum sanders over the years. So I'll kick you off with some improvements.
Solid steel bar for shaft, bearings essential, glued discs to make drum ( you true these by putting sandpaper onto table and slowly raising to true drum perfectly), Velcro on outside of drum to make paper changing a doddle and it gives a tiny cushion which will reduce vibration massively. Oh and a small motor rather than drill as it will kill your drill, even if you use a corded drill, trust me I know. 1500ish rpm is perfect for drum sander.
If you build a good one you will use it all the time and if you do.................add dust extraction.
Wow, thanks mate that is super comprehensive. This was more of a jig, and due to its shoddiness I never pulled it out again after the project it was built for... but you may have just inspired me to give this idea another crack and do it properly this time using your suggestions. Cheers! :D
@@FixitFingers just left you to work out the height adjustment mechanism. 😉😉😉
Best bet is to look at everybody elses on here and steal the best bits. I know you are tight for space but if it's available you'll use it all the time, especially as it would appear your partial to dumpster diving!👍👍👍
This is a good starting point, m.czcams.com/video/ykh_o2ANYY4/video.html and he has a feed roller add on too m.czcams.com/video/tcDLvwU7ucQ/video.html it's a bit rough and ready but easy to build.
Cheers mate, added to the very long 'To Do' list😅
Hi James,
An interesting and beautiful project. You made it using the available materials in the workshop. A good straightener for thin woods. I like this drum sander project. It was nice to use the bottom tray for other purposes. The test seems successful. Nice project that can be improved. you did a good job. Congratulations. Take care of yourself. Big greetings. Cheers mate. See you.
All my international friends are in early it seems! Maybe 6am Friday morning Sydney time is a good publish time slot 😂
This is a cool concept... 🧐
I'm going to do some experimenting with the wood lathe!
Good luck! If you can get some skateboard bearings for the head and tail stock it should run a lot less wobbly than this 😁
@@FixitFingers I have some!
Very ingenious James. 😊
A bigger one would be great for sanding table tops... ;)
G'Day Great Jig 👍
Cheers Doug, it's a good start lots of improvements that could be made (many in the comments below) but it worked well for this project :)
Banging idea mate. I think if you was to mount the drill properly it will stop some of the wobble
Cheers Frank! I've got a few ideas for Version 2 to improve this. I've got an old corded drill lying around somewhere... I think that would make a good motor for a solid shaft and bearing assisted upgrade!
Good try at it, but probably going to do a bad job of sanding with it being off kilter. Might be better to run some threaded rod through the guts, nuts inside tube and nuts on the outside to stabilize it a bit instead of separate bolts either side. Should make it a lot more stable.
Cheers Peter, yeah not the greatest attempt but got me out of a pinch. Definitely needs a solid rod and some bearings. Next version will be better!
@@FixitFingers Wouldn't be the first time I've rebuilt a home made tool a few times! There's always a learning curve.
To make the centre blocks completely round and the rod in the centre, have a go at using your drill as a lathe first, bringing the blocks down to size for the pipe while they're spinning.
@@peterschmidt9942 oh and the height adjustment needs reversing, moving the base on a hinge instead of moving the rollers... Not much of this design will survive V2 😂
Very clever !
Thanks Annie, I am still genuinely surprised it actually worked 😁
Interesting tinkering.
That's one word for it ;) hahaha definitely more a concept build than finished product, it worked well for the task! 😅
Nice one Mate, My kind of project 🔨👍😊
Dodgy but functional? ;)
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Great idea Macgyver!!!! Oops I mean James 😉 That is a pretty genius idea mate & I'm gonna tuck that away for future reference if I'm doing a similar task 👌🤙🤙 also, really looking forward to the next episode which I assume is going to be "DIY Trim Router driven Bandsaw" 😉 onya mate
Not sure many bandsaws operate at 15,000RPM... but think of the cutting efficiency! 🤣
@@FixitFingers all I'm hearing is there's a hole in the market for an extremely efficient bandsaw 🤷♂️🤣 or a disaster
Yeah buddy! That is a great tool, and I love the idea of inventing and trying something new even if it seems a tad sketch. You should somehow put a grater on there, because I hate grating cheese by hand 😂🧀
I'll add it to the lathe and thicknesser upgrade list 🤣
A long fìve 16ths inch drill bit with skateboard bearings a bunch of round disk epoxyed on would have been something that you could have trued and would have last a lot of years
I think you're right Ricky! Version 2 will probably go down that route or similar. Cheers 🍻
Hey-up MacGyver 😂 Just needed a mullet hair piece, tied back of course - wouldn't wanna catch that in the drum sander! 😂
I'd say bring back the the 80s... But the last mullet was much more recent than that 😅
I've watched this 3 times now, I think it's a genius idea, I've been think on how you could make it more user friendly, could you make a drive wheel on corse grit sanding roll, and then fit the finer grit roller a bit further down the board and then complete both sanding steps in one pass??
Possible, but usually you'll want several passes on the course before heading to smoother grits. These things are not usually meant to be used as a thicknesser like I did! The main improvements noted in other comments are a solid axle, bearings, and a pully and belt to help remove vibration. With a proper piece of drum sanding paper and a dust cover it could be a great little machine.
3K!
Yes just crept over yesterday. Im not one for sub-goals, but 3,600 in 36 months would be a nice number (Oct 2021)
@@FixitFingers you can get there, for your channel 100 subscribers a month should be easy. Send me your sticker and I’ll give you a shout-out
I'm a fan! Only, make it bigger next time. You should be able to run a tabletop through it 😜
Not in this workshop :P But I might be able to make a slightly bigger one if I ever do a "proper" version :D
This seems more appealing to have vs a mid sized drum sander that uses precious space.
It's not a bad size. If properly made it'd do your boxes, drawer fronts, most cutting and serving boards. Just needs some refinement 😋
Nice! Definitely cheaper than a big drum sander.
...and where's the fun in 'buying' a tool when you can spend hours faffing about building a vastly inferior version?! 😅
Nice instructions and neat project. But you didn't mention anything about how to cook chicken juicy, so I can only give you 4 stars out of 5.
Tragic oversight on my part. I'm sure I can make some slight modifications and turn this into a rotisserie for all kinds of succulent meats 😂😂😂
Interesting concept, James. Is the wobble of any concern? If its stable enough, next step is to make a lathe with a similar concept :D
If you want an actual dead flat surface... the wobble is of great concern 🤣 If you want a crude sandpaper thicknesser... less so 😁 Not having a solid axle handy was the main cause, and the slop in my basic little pipe bushings. So many areas to improve but it was a fun little build!
There's an inventor hiding inside you! Coming up with this and it actually works is amazing! What will you make next?
Something more dangerous 😂 Watch this space.
@@FixitFingers I'm a bigger fan now.