SIGEYI AXO Power Meter for SRAM AXS: Details // 1x Setup // Data Review 🚲⚡️

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  • čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
  • A follow up to my previous SIGEYI AXO spider based power meter review - This time looking at the SRAM AXS/DUB compatible 8-4-107 version of the AXO. Will this unit require an upscale? Doe it rival the SRAM AXS Power Meter spider? Dig in to find out!
    Technical Specifications:
    ● Type: Spider Based Power Meter.
    ● Compatibility: Road / MTB.
    ● Wireless Data: ANT+, Bluetooth Smart.
    ● Measurement: Total Power / Cadence / L/R Balance.
    ● Power Accuracy: ±1%.
    ● Power: 0-2000W.
    ● Cadence: 30-220RPM (Accelerometer).
    ● Battery: Rechargeable Li-on / 300hrs / USB Charging.
    ● Active Temperature Compensation: Yes.
    ● Auto-Zero: Back pedal.
    ● Firmware: Upgradable via Sigeyi App.
    ● Weight: Varies / Claimed 101g SRAM 3-4-110 Version.
    ● Package: Spider. Charge cable. Manual. Coloured decals.
    ● Warranty: 2 years.
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    Video Index:
    0:00 Intro
    0:51 My History with AXO Meters
    1:19 Technical Specifications
    2:39 Pricing Information
    2:51 Unboxing and 1x Setup
    5:14 SIGEYI Mobile App
    5:44 On Bike / Ride
    6:16 Data Analysis Indoor (Lama Lab Test)
    10:48 Data Analysis Outdoor (Gravel Ride)
    14:01 SRAM AXS vs SIGEYI AXO
    15:11 Conclusions
    15:29 Wrap-Up
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    #Cycling #PowerMeter #SIGEYI
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Komentáře • 116

  • @CMCairo
    @CMCairo Před 2 lety +9

    I have two, one on my gravel bike and one my road bike both in 1x configs. I have had zero issues and haven't needed the scaling after the latest firmware update. I have had them for two seasons and have no issues whatsoever, they have been solid in rain, snow, crazy gravel adventures, backpacking. Amazing value, I see almost no reason to get the Quarq one over this unless you have money to burn. There is not even an issue with functionality with using the sram AXS web service. Amazing product, amazing product 100% recommended.

  • @denisfung6031
    @denisfung6031 Před 2 lety +1

    Bought one for my mtb after your previous review. Had been great so far 👍

  • @JippaJ
    @JippaJ Před 2 lety +10

    Really satisfying to see you use the correct tightening order on those 8 bolts.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety +5

      ⭐️👌🏼

    • @galenkehler
      @galenkehler Před 2 lety +3

      I wonder if you could introduce errors to the measurements by unbalanced mounting bolts.

  • @logandonaldson
    @logandonaldson Před 2 lety +6

    I have been riding for a few months with a Sigeyi power meter on my SRAM Force 2x setup. It has been solid and the battery really lasts. Just like the video, it was very easy to install. I really can't think of any negatives for the spider based meter. It just works!

  • @iqbalreza
    @iqbalreza Před 2 lety +4

    Wow... I purchased exactly one year ago. My hardware version is v. 4 while the hardware version which GP Lama tested is v. 8. I have no issues with the sigeyi power meter so far. Quite amazed with the accuracy comparison results. They seems doing lots of the hardware improvements within a year.

  • @mikebillett7935
    @mikebillett7935 Před 2 lety +3

    Hi Shane,
    I bought my SIGEYI SRAM 3 BOLT SPIDER in May 2020 for £320 GBP and it has never missed a beat on my BMC Fourstroke.
    Still going strong and happy with the numbers.
    Much more believable than the numbers iff my Ronde crank arm meter.

  • @Higuma_JPN
    @Higuma_JPN Před 2 lety +1

    Shane - based in no small part on your hands on review I purchased a AXO for my gravel bike just before the new year and received it within 2 weeks here in Northern Japan... GREAT service from Jonathan at Cycling 100...
    My Merida Silex is a BB386 EVO frame along with a 1x Di2 GRX groupset and I ended up adapting a XT M8100 crankset by using a Token Ninja BB with a single 2mm spacer on the non-drive side of the BB and a custom 3D printed 2mm spacer between the spider & the drive side crank arm to give me a 50mm chainline... ( GRX is 49.7 ) - additionally I usually run pedal spacers and the increased Q-factor of the XT crank has eliminated that requirement...
    So far, this set up works excellent and in the absence of an affordable or non-bodge power meter set up I am very pleased with the results... We're in full winter mode now in Sapporo, so no outdoor testing but indoor testing proves the AXO is consistent with my Kickr Snap...
    I was originally contemplating the Favero MTB Pedal hack that you outlined but there's just a few concerns - least of which would be carving up the bottom of my Northwave shoes - and it's literally half the price to go the Sigeyi AXO route...

  • @josh852
    @josh852 Před 2 lety

    Just purchased based on your recommendation! Thanks and keep up the great work

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      Keep me posted on how it goes.

  • @anggorgeousko1
    @anggorgeousko1 Před 2 lety +9

    Been using AXO power meters for close to a year now and it is really value for money plus the fact that readings are always reliable.

  • @ralfmimoun2826
    @ralfmimoun2826 Před 2 lety +8

    It's great to see that they nailed it - not an easy task with this modular design. Otoh, you can get an original SRAM/Quarq powermeter spider here in Germany for about 360 Euros, including tax and p&p.

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 Před 2 lety

      Can also get the Shimano version as well, do they ship to UK ?
      Can you give link please ?

    • @Adventure.Cyclist
      @Adventure.Cyclist Před 2 lety

      @@gourami7 probably R2 cycling

  • @massa_rob
    @massa_rob Před 2 lety +4

    Having 2 of them and compared with Assioma DUO (gold standard) and know they are reliable, even tough they had some little ups and downs on their FW updates/history. Subtle changes, but now it seems they nailed it. The almost "cousin" Xcaday (spider) is very similar but slightly less constant and required a scale factor correction.

  • @Tethysmeer
    @Tethysmeer Před 2 lety +1

    Just mounted a axo on my easton ea90 with a raceface narrow wide 1x 38t chainring on my gravel. Works perfectly.

  • @beneyckmans20
    @beneyckmans20 Před 2 lety +1

    I got one for my rotor 3d30 crankset and works great for me! I compared to my Favero assioma’s and tacx neo 2 T and all looks good!

  • @Frankthegravelrider
    @Frankthegravelrider Před rokem +2

    Got mine 3 years ago. 3 years on the mtb, going strong in irish mud. Cannot recommend it enough.

  • @theoavana
    @theoavana Před 2 lety +1

    I’ve got 3 x Quarq DZero and now 2 x Axos. Very very happy so far with the Axos…. Just hope the internal rechargeable batteries have a long life

  • @garyaland
    @garyaland Před rokem +1

    I am an AXO user. I actually have one on the hard tail MTn bike and one on each of my gravel / adventure bikes. (3 total) Love them. I was a user of many versions of SRM as well as Quarq. The AXO for myself is good enough.

  • @alexanderwendelbo1447
    @alexanderwendelbo1447 Před 2 lety

    for the prize! this is crazy! Ill try it the day i change my bike :P

  • @nimrodeldar1443
    @nimrodeldar1443 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for your review, SIGEYI israel distributor

  • @nicozegers
    @nicozegers Před 2 lety +2

    I have one on a gravel bike for a little more than a year. Have had unusually high readings on some rides during the winter (6 months ago, in southern hemisphere). At the end managed to isolate the problem to happen on very cold days early in the morning, when the bike had spent the night stored on a warm interior space. So it seems that the temperature compensation is not continuous and happens only at startup / auto zero operation. Maybe that issue had been solved on the latest firmwares; seems to be a lot more consistent now.

    • @stephenleach3110
      @stephenleach3110 Před rokem

      Thanks for that. Are you still having that issue with the latest firmware?

  • @scotth3354
    @scotth3354 Před 2 lety +1

    Are you sure that grease was warranted on the spider and crank interface? For the 8-bolt Quarq spiders, the install instructions say to clean both pieces with rubbing alcohol to get them grease/dirt free and don’t say to re-grease the interface.

  • @darrenhaines1
    @darrenhaines1 Před 2 lety +1

    Latest firmware on the AXO (Since your previous AXO video) seems to have ironed out majority of the spikes I've been seeing for the past year on the MTB.

  • @Adventure.Cyclist
    @Adventure.Cyclist Před 2 lety

    Would love to see a direct comparison of the SRAM axs one but I guess it would be quite difficult

  • @jeffeversole291
    @jeffeversole291 Před 2 lety +1

    Are these available in U.S.? It's probably me but I'm really struggling to find the specific p/n that I need for a SRAM Force 1, 40t, 175mm

  • @stephenbetley9596
    @stephenbetley9596 Před 2 lety +9

    Well, that was dull. In a good way. Quark are going to be looking over their shoulders for pricing especially. All good.

    • @th0m
      @th0m Před 2 lety

      I was hoping this would be the case, but it’s only a $49 (USD) difference?

  • @kevinbroadstreet8053
    @kevinbroadstreet8053 Před 2 lety

    Somewhat unrelated question, but sure you will know… Is the 8-bolt interface on the newer AXS cranks the same 8-bolt interface SRAM has used for years with the Red and XX1 cranks? In short, would this PM and/or the Quarq AXS PM fit an older Red crankset that has the 8-bolt interface? Thanks!!

  • @paulissnipke6140
    @paulissnipke6140 Před 2 lety

    Hi. Thanks for review. Question not from topic. Where did you get Assioma spd version pedals? They are not producing such a product as far I know...

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      Power Meter Pedals: Favero Assioma // Xpedo SPD Hack: czcams.com/video/ybAFIhKahnM/video.html

  • @donwinston
    @donwinston Před 2 lety +1

    I got one last year. Haven't installed it because the crank it works with uses a 30mm spindle and my bike frame is designed for a 24mm spindle. I didn't realize this when I bought it. Saving it for a possible new CX or TT bike.

  • @MrLuigi-oi7gm
    @MrLuigi-oi7gm Před 2 lety

    Great review! 👏👏👏 These spider mount power meters don't work on the SRAM Rival electronic group sets since they don't have removable chain rings. Right???

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      Not on that chainset, no. A Red/Force crankset will work with other Rival components though.

    • @MrLuigi-oi7gm
      @MrLuigi-oi7gm Před 2 lety

      @@gplama At the relatively affordable price point of the Rival electronic groupset, I guess that is a fair compromise. Keep up the great work, Mr. Llama!!!

  • @Tk_rides_bikes
    @Tk_rides_bikes Před 2 lety

    Hi, great video. Any chance you can get the power to show on the wahoo element bolt head unit.

  • @grantbullard7131
    @grantbullard7131 Před 2 lety

    Is there Axo PM shimano road version?

  • @h4rdcor31
    @h4rdcor31 Před 2 lety +2

    @Shane Miller -GPLama, where are you getting the $690 USD price? I see the price of the AXS power meter in the States at $460 and that's what I paid for it earlier this year. Still kind of wish I could have waited, the SIGEYI AXO looks like a very good buy and at a great price. Cheaper than a lot of left side only crank power meters too.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      The SRAM website. It lists MSRP. Where did you see $460?

    • @h4rdcor31
      @h4rdcor31 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gplama ​ CZcams keeps deleting my replies because of links, but the SRAM site lists it for $458 for me.

    • @dirkbeauboir8521
      @dirkbeauboir8521 Před 2 lety

      @@gplama the SRAM 107 bcd pm spider is usually available for under 400 € on sites like R2-bike, just bought one myself of a new built. But the Sigeyi is definitely. a nice deal

  • @manujuggler6627
    @manujuggler6627 Před 2 lety

    Anyone has successfully synched with a polar Grit X (not version 2) with Axo ?

  • @Ericx25
    @Ericx25 Před 2 lety

    Will the installation of such a power meter slightly change the offset of my 1X chainring or not at all ?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety +1

      Should be the same if it’s just a spider swap. If you’re switching cranksets and BB you’ll need to check the specs.

  • @maurobaldini4582
    @maurobaldini4582 Před 2 lety

    Is possible to use force axs cranks, sigeyi pm and Shimano chainrings? I think it would work but I cannot find examples of this setup.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety +1

      AXS/DUB has a 107mm BCD where as Shimano rings are 110.... Magene has a P505-S1108 which allows Force AXS cranks/DUB BB and Shimano rings iirc.

  • @awkwardsilhouette5211
    @awkwardsilhouette5211 Před 2 lety

    I might have missed it but does this fit a Sram Force Wide crankset? Or is my only option still pedals?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      PowerMeterCity have this covered: powermetercity.com/faq/can-i-install-a-sram-red-force-axs-107-bcd-power-meter-spider-on-my-sram-force-wide-crankset/

    • @awkwardsilhouette5211
      @awkwardsilhouette5211 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gplama Amazing thank you!

  • @E01Z
    @E01Z Před 2 lety

    Any chance of testing out Magene's new spider based power meter? They call it the Magene P505

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      If I can get a hold of one, yes.

  • @eo1830
    @eo1830 Před 2 lety

    How is it with oval chainring? Anyone knows?

  • @andraslukoviczki519
    @andraslukoviczki519 Před 2 lety +2

    the question is whether you received it unknown or they knew they were sending it to GPLama... but charts are looking good, much better than a Quarq's :D

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety +1

      If companies are able to easily ‘tweak’ meters they send for review to be more accurate, I’m sure they’d do it to all of them.

    • @andraslukoviczki519
      @andraslukoviczki519 Před 2 lety

      ​@@gplama yes, only in this case there is a good chance that the average user will get one that needs weight calibration at home...

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety +4

      I'd go as far as saying ALL power meters should be validated.

    • @andraslukoviczki519
      @andraslukoviczki519 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gplama yes, that's a great truth! (and all indoor trainers! 🙂)

  • @marcogiampa283
    @marcogiampa283 Před 2 lety

    looks to be about $500 shipped to australia vs the $690for the quarq spider, i would rather pay the extra 180 and wait for the quarq, the auto zero is amazing and the warranty/ customer service on them is amazing and local to melbourne

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety +1

      Yep, that's a fair call. Support is something to consider.

  • @joshualindenthaler8468

    Can you please do a power comparison utilising an oval chainring???? They offer oval rings on the Chinese website, If they are not compatible I will have to continue to wait until the Favero Assioma MTB pedals come out.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      To be honest, I'm not all that interested in oval chainrings. They're not something I've used or plan to use for my own riding. Sigeyi should be able to tell you if they're compatible or not.

  • @luigideluca5326
    @luigideluca5326 Před 2 lety

    Il mio misuratore di potenza sigeyi sovrastima i watt..... esempio a 330 watt segnalati in verità ne sono 300.
    Come posso fare per non avere questa differenza?

  • @paulallen5865
    @paulallen5865 Před 2 lety

    Wow, that looks a great power meter. Can i fit one of these to my Ultegra R8000 cranks/chainset?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety +3

      You'll beed to use a Rotor ALDHU crankset or similar. See this setup here: czcams.com/video/w9z7CrO3Ims/video.html

    • @andraslukoviczki519
      @andraslukoviczki519 Před 2 lety +2

      You must replace your R8000 if You would like to put a spider-based powermeter into your bike. (i recommend to replace :) )

  • @seenstee
    @seenstee Před 2 lety

    Expecting anything new for 2022 SRAM AXS? Update to Red?? Thx

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety +1

      Not sure. I’d like to see slightly smaller RED hoods/levers. Similar to what they’ve done with Rival.

  • @sengwaiho
    @sengwaiho Před 2 lety

    Anyone know the waterproof rating on this unit?

  • @StephenWollwerth-tq5si

    Thanks for the video. I ordered the Sigeyi for the XX1 from Cycling100 the other day. But I've not heard anything from them regarding the order. How was your experience with them. They seem totally unresponsive.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před rokem

      Experience with them was fine back when I did this video.

    • @3GatesFilms
      @3GatesFilms Před rokem

      @@gplama You might want to take their site off your channel. I've never heard from them, and lots of people are reviewing them as a scam now. Apparently a lot of people aren't getting their orders. and no communication.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před rokem

      @@3GatesFilms Hmmm... Link removed from the video description and replaced with the Sigeyi official site. Thanks for the heads-up.

    • @3GatesFilms
      @3GatesFilms Před rokem +1

      Just an update: After 3 months of no communication from the seller. It showed up in my mailbox yesterday.
      So odd. So they’re not a scam, just terrible customer service.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před rokem

      @@3GatesFilms Good to hear you finally received the meter. Three months isn't an ideal wait time though....

  • @MichaelGranataDivorceLawyer

    I like your torque wrench. Do you have an affiliate link?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      PRO Adjustable Torque Wrench: amzn.to/33kwfEx

  • @weiwenng8096
    @weiwenng8096 Před 2 lety +1

    Shane, your pronunciation of Sigeyi’s name is actually pretty much as close as we can get in English.

  • @hanifschanel
    @hanifschanel Před 2 lety

    How is it vs the power2max NGeco? Double budget friendly powermeter.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      It's hard to do a direct same-time comparison between the two. The Power2Max NGeco has also been a very good meter in the Lama Lab and outside when testing pedals and trainers.

    • @hanifschanel
      @hanifschanel Před 2 lety

      @@gplama if i could choose only one which one do you prefer for me to buy? Thanks in advance

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      ​@@hanifschanel Entirely your call what to buy. There's a lot to consider. Price, support, compatibility, etc. Data from both meters has been good in my testing.

    • @andraslukoviczki519
      @andraslukoviczki519 Před 2 lety

      @@hanifschanel NGEco, that will be accurate for everybody for sure (german quality, reliability and support since 10 years...), i have a (bad) feeling that this Axo was "prepared" for GPLama to get this accuracy "out from the box"

    • @mmcewen9789
      @mmcewen9789 Před 2 lety

      @@andraslukoviczki519 How would Sigeyi even do that? Tweak the firmware before sending it out? Test spiders against Assiomas in their factory before sending them out? Seems like a stretch.

  • @jakesiney
    @jakesiney Před 2 lety

    I purchased the SRAM Quarq 107bcd spider for £300 last week. Prices have halved recently.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      Nice! They look like they're out of stock everywhere for a while.

    • @johanmaclassen1779
      @johanmaclassen1779 Před 2 lety +2

      problem with quarq is the only workwith 8-bolt, so unley you bought that fro start most have 3 bold and need a brand new cranckset - where as Segeyi comes in 3-bolt vrsions - realy considering this option - thx GPL for a great review.

  • @gianpaoloroccasalva8789

    It's a good product, but how can I change the battery? 15:47

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před rokem

      It has a non replaceable battery.

  • @AlanBen44
    @AlanBen44 Před 2 lety

    I am always confused looking at your data comparison, why is it you do not have a drivetrain loss? The smart trainer matches the power from the pedals, I thought there would be a 3-5% loss in the drivetrain.

    • @AlanBen44
      @AlanBen44 Před 2 lety

      @@SawyerPangborn I am surprised by that. They specify a +/- 1% accuracy and then take a guess at drivetrain loss and add it. I have never seen a statement on any of the trainer websites saying this is what they do, have you?

    • @SawyerPangborn
      @SawyerPangborn Před 2 lety

      @@AlanBen44 I thought I had seen it somewhere or heard it, but can't find anything to back that up - I've deleted that comment, haha.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      Asked over on the WW forums today too. See my reply here: weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=159339&start=270#p1720881

    • @AlanBen44
      @AlanBen44 Před 2 lety

      @@gplama Thanks for the link and reply

    • @andraslukoviczki519
      @andraslukoviczki519 Před 2 lety

      @@AlanBen44 the drivetrain loss is apprx between 1% and 2% somewhere (depending on small or big ring or position on the rear sprockets) at the 100-500w range for sure if You have clean and newer drivetrain parts. If You have an accurate PowerTap G3 rear wheel You will have the similar difference as loss. the 3-5% diff is too high imho. So the (almost) matching duals here is acceptable, it is within the error margins.

  • @telmooliveira4240
    @telmooliveira4240 Před 2 lety

    this might be a roockie question.... is it compatible with campa Centaur crankset?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety +1

      No idea sorry, I'm not across anything Campagnolo.

    • @andraslukoviczki519
      @andraslukoviczki519 Před 2 lety

      no, the Campagnolo cranksets are not modular , the spider and the crank are one unit. You must buy a special modular-designed Campagnolo crankset for 1k dollars apprx to use a spider-based powermeter with any Campa cranksets (honestly the Campagnolo is a very small market for every spider-based PM manufacturer so only the SRM and the Power2Max are making such a spiders for tons of dollars) ... a totally dead-end. So for Campa groupsets the best way is buy Assiomas and dont touch the crankset :)

    • @telmooliveira4240
      @telmooliveira4240 Před 2 lety +1

      @@andraslukoviczki519 thanks for the detailed explanation, much appreciated.

  • @northkyt
    @northkyt Před 2 lety

    I don't think Sigeyi has a U.S.A. distributor as of now who can handle warranty replacements. So if you live in the U.S., buy an AXO and it quits working you have to send it back to China. I communicated with them about it, and they don't seem willing (or able) to get a distributor in the U.S. right now. I told them that is too bad, I would love to buy an AXO once they have a U.S. distributor who can handle warranty issues! Anyone want to sign up to be their U.S. distributor?

  • @raphaeltiziani7476
    @raphaeltiziani7476 Před 2 lety +2

    So in this moment there is no reason to buy the Sram powermeter. Nice.

    • @mikicastan
      @mikicastan Před 2 lety +2

      Agree!
      We should give a chance to new players in the market...for half the price

  • @johnnyboy4711
    @johnnyboy4711 Před 2 lety

    Uk distribution for sigeyi now

  • @dreale2
    @dreale2 Před 2 lety +1

    First!

  • @joelin6681
    @joelin6681 Před 2 lety

    Any coupon codes available?

  • @normen416
    @normen416 Před 2 lety

    assioma with mtb pedals??whatt??!!!

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 2 lety

      Power Meter Pedals: Favero Assioma // Xpedo SPD Hack: czcams.com/video/ybAFIhKahnM/video.html

  • @11-inch
    @11-inch Před 2 lety +2

    Pronounced as XI GAY YEE