Peugeot 308 GTI // REVIEW on AUTOBAHN
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00:00 Walkaround
04:40 Interior & 3 stupid things
06:35 B-road drive
09:35 Autobahn with 100-200 Dragy
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Zalig ! ❤
From what you say in the test, it seems that it is better than a Golf GTi, what do you think? Thank you.
@@FranGSainzThink that goes without saying mate
Focus ST/RS is always the no 1 hot hatch😊
Probably one of the most underrated hot hatches. The lightest of the class, good handling....engine is smallest in class but it's forged.
except for the interior.....
@@friedmann509 interior is subjetive. And not a priority in a hot hatch. I don't like the i-cockpit. But the car is good.
@@friedmann509 what's wrong with the interior?
@@markovujinovic3110 I would have preferred them more sporty, especially the instrumentation. Anyway i like the car indeed
engine is forged but it's still a f-ing prince engine, they love to explode sadly, bmw things
We all have different taste. I absolutly love the small steering weel. And looking over it on the instrumentation. So natural !
I think it also depends on the driver's anatomy...
Top der Peugeot 308 GTI !
Endlich mal was anderes als der Golf und CO Einheitsbrei.
Tacho übrigens sehr genau!
Je schneller umso genauer!
Great to finally see a Peugeot on the channel!
More fremch cars are so much welcome! 🥰
I own 308 GTi BPS 270 no GPF model which is lighter as it's only 1205kg and I never had single issue in 7 years ownership!! Unbelievable fun and such a good handling 👌👌👌 mine is tuned for over 5 years and it's sweet 🙏 amazing cars honestly. Very underrated.
well no shit, your car has between 70 to 90k KMS, you can't talk about reliability in a car that barely leaves the garage
@@Jozkah_ how do you know how many kms my car have 😅😂😂.. anyway I am on all 308 GTi groups and there are barely people with problems..I know these cars very well. Engines are super solid on them 🤔👍
@@ejdydmj1650 every car has a good engine if you don't leave the garage with it
Haven’t had the brakes done yet then? 😅
@@specialjeffy333 he barely drives the car lol, ofc he has no reason to complain, i’m nearing 200k and this thing gives me an headache every month
The ‘knights armour’ in the rear exhaust is just to stop the exhaust pipes from hitting or rattling against the rear chrome trims when movement is happening. It’s a great design.
Ooo a 308 GTi! I love these! Happy to see it on here!
Imagine 208 gti with that amount of power
No sé si tendría esa estabilidad a 240-250
I've got a 14 plate 208 gti. 26k miles. Misfire cylinder 1. That sums up French cars
no it does not. shut up@@DaleSteel
@@joaoopiniao1446pretty much does tho
There has been a modified 208 gti with 360bhp! It was a monster and beat most sports cars on the road!
I have a 205 1.9 GTI and I have a smile on my face even if I go to the shops 😄 It just wants to go and have fun in the corners 👍
That RPM Gauge is throwing me off lol
i kinda really hate it tbh lmao
I'm in love, i have the previous one. The 270hp thp version. I drove it last year in the autobahn. The sensations that it transmit are awesome. Great and enjoyable video 🎉
The previous looked good. 5his one is ugly
What a great video! 👌
I already knew this car via Instagram. Really a beautiful car, and so underrated. Unfortunately you don't hear many people about the 208 or 308 GTI.
And so nice to hear how positive he is about this car.
The owner can be more than happy with such a car. I wish him much fun with it! 😁
Perfect timing guys! I've seen one of those on the road recently and thought to myself, dang that one looks nice, let's see what it is! I don't know jack about Peugeot lol.
It’s amazing how it pulls in second and third gear
Max, you are absolutely correct-dream car, best in it's class! I have one-2017 model with Milltec exhaust, unbelievable fun, each kilometer you take😊
Just the 130 hp GT-line here. Really loving it. Very beautiful car Quintin, well done
I remember test driving it when it was released. Super agressive when turbo kicks in, not a lot of happening down low. Very nice seats (too chunky if you want someone to sit behind). Attractive looks. Gearbox though is a bit loose compared to Type-R. Overall a nice car
Assuming I pass all my remaining Accountancy exams I will be treating myself to one of these next July. Cannot wait!
That engine might be small by comparison but it has the heart of a Lion!! Peugeot’s last ever GTi this, it’s a shame it’s so under appreciated too as it’s one of the best hot hatches ever made. I had to sell my one I had a couple of years back for financial reasons but now on the look out for another one as I loved it so much!
I really like it too , such a cool car
I have 308gti 2017. My Best car 💪👍🖐
Me too. Great car
Iv got the RCZ R which shares similar parts
How many kilometers you got? Any issues with the engine?
I have a 2018 model. Modded to stage 2 and it’s seriously quick. Quicker than my b9 RS4 Avant even! I love it.
@@SapphireSamC Not bad. What kinda mods did you add?
Nice to see lets say...common people cars too. Ofcource i love those super car videos and fast tuning cars, but this was nice too. 😃👍
One of my fav cars
French cars are generally underrated.
That armor in the exhaust is a heat shield, so the bumper doesnt melt.
it’s flexible so when you crash into the bumper you won’t damage the exhaust, other manufacturers have nothing between the real exhaust and the fake exhaust in the bumper
I have one in my past, stage 2+ with hybrid turbo 320+hp It was creazy
I had this car before but without the Gti engine. The seating position with the steering wheel and gauges are amazing once u get the position right. Im 1.80.
I can imagine that Max is a bit taller which makes it difficult for the legroom
The speedometer is so accurate
Good car
In Germany we say ´Flexrohr´ to the knights armor haha
He never gets so happy from those 600 700 bhp rockets. Cars should be fun and nimble, not scary and intimidating. They should invite you to drive and enjoy.
03:05 I think thats some kind of flex pipe which connects the tip to muffler endpipe. They do this to ensure the tip will stay at it's place rather than sticking out too much from the bumper when the exhaust is heated up.
Only thing I dislike about the 263hp version is the OPF has taken was so much of the nice exhaust sound.
Nice becoz u did top speed on autobhan driving this car as usual..
24+km/h
Correction Max it’s not just 100kg lighter but actually more like 200kg lighter than the N 😊
Max rpm 8420 ?
@@szymon6207 6700 is the max rpm
8420 😂 random figure
The weight anounced by peugeot is fake, so yes it's 108kg lighter, not200 (peugeot : 1438, hyundai : 1546)
@@theRaw6 I had one a couple of years back mate, on the scales mine was just shy of 1300kg with a tank of petrol :)
Und Power satt.
Mein 300 PS Passat 3,6 V6 benötigt 100 - 200 km/h etwa 17,5 sek. Da ist der 308 GTI gut mit knapp 16 sek. ☺
Pa da, jedino što ti imaš barem 500 kila više.
I love mine
Yeah, I never turn sport mode on in mine (2017 pre-facelift 270), there's no point, just makes the car sound weird, and makes rev matching harder.
My one spent the first 3 years of its life near the sea, so I had to replace the exhaust last year. Had a local exhaust shop make a custom one for me, with no mid silencer and a free-flowing backbox, all in stainless steel. I asked them to make it look completely stock, and it does. It's a little bit louder, about the same volume as hot hatches used to be out of the factory, so not anti-social by any stretch. Luckily the rest of the bottom of the car aside from some of the suspension is aluminium, so won't rust.
The only other mod I've done is to add sound deadening to the doors, wheel arches, and boot floor, so there's less road noise, as well as two-piece disks for the front so they're cheaper to replace (as well as significantly lighter, as the bell is aluminium). Other than that, I make sure to change the oil every 3000 miles, and get any maintainance done early. All common issues with these engines is caused by the oil change interval being too long, so it's really not worth skimping out on the £30 or so and 20-30 minutes it takes to change the oil and oil filter. You can do it without lifting the car.
You can get Brembo ceramic pads for these calipers, but they're only sold in the USA, so I'm going to have to import them. That's what I'm planning to do next time I need to change the pads, that's going to be my next upgrade.
Honestly, I'm probably going to keep this thing for a long time, it's high tech enough to be easy to live with, but the driving expereience feels quite old-school, I like how you need to rev the engine out for best effect, it does pretty good fuel economy (40MPG UK), and the boot is very big.
I got a 2016 version. And i dont like the rather large second gear in combination with the large turbo, which means that when driving in second, after a slow corner at 30kmh, you dont just launch, you either have to do a difficult gear down to first or wait until 70kmh when he really starts going. But then you are already going illegally fast.
Imagine that 1,6 thp finally rebuilt and working, put it on the mini r56
Pretty fast for such a little engine.
It could be just how you are built, your height, I find the icockpit the absolute best part of the new Pugs, can clearly see the dials, can't go back to driving cars with traditional big steering wheel.
That mesh lining might be because it's a resonated exhaust tip.
No it’s flexible so when you crash into the bumper you won’t damage the exhaust, other manufacturers have nothing between the real exhaust and the fake exhaust in the bumper
@@josefinkjellsson7051 aah that makes more sense!
@@josefinkjellsson7051 props to Peugeot for that actually, that is smart
In sport mode you van change the cluster in de middle by pressing te top button of the right wiper washer handle
I'm a VWAG Guy. I testdrove one back in 2016 I think. It was almost new with 3000Km on it. I can only agree that this car is absolutely great. The engine is very strong, revs freely. Also the build quality of the car in the interior is really good. The Denon Sound System sounds really good as well. The gear throw is a bit long (for my taste) and I'm also a "DSG Guy". But also the braking on this car is really really good. Honestly, this car is an almost perfect track tool. You need to get used to the i-Cockpit, but wasn't an issue for me. I also think that the car aged pretty well.
A modern Version of this car with 290hp and a Dual Clutch Transmission would be an epic car. Compared to a MK6 or MK7 GTI this car feels lighter and more nimble. The Golf feels more settled and grown up. It's comparable with the difference of a Polo GTI to a Fiesta ST. But the 308 is less "hardcore" in terms of the dampers.
Mam GTI 270 z 2017 roku i zamontowałem short shifter z Forge Motorsport i jest to samochód kompletny 💪👍🖐
the original MK1 VW golf GT| was light and nimble . No idea what went wrong
Manual is beter
Though since that 1.6l has spectacularly low engine brake, I can shift up or down in curves and have no mass transfer interferencing.... that's unique with manuals, giving it a bit of DSG feel in that respect
How do you compare this engine to the 1.5 Ford 200hp on the Fiesta/Puma ST ?
This has more power of course but I heard you saying there is no power at low revs . I used to have a 1.5 182hp Focus and loved that engine, very happy to rev with decent power/torque low rev
I have a 2016 Pre facelift Red and Black one with a stage 1 and it is even beter, 300hp and 400nm
My dream car :(
I dislike the fact that it's sooo Golf-inspired in its design (thick C-pillar especially), but it's nice enough, powerful and light!
Peugeot 308 GTi by peugeot sport (BPS), it is also identified by the color called "coupe franche".
The BPS is much more than a simple GTi, it is prepared from the factory.
One of the big advantages is the chassis and braking preparation, among other things.
a GTi is a BPS... they are all the same besides the RC
Not identified bij the coupe french. Most are just 1 colour. Mine is blue
amazing car ! so underrated ! But RCZ-R goes waay more !
Got the RCZ R myself, with a few handling mods on it
How do you mean it goes way more? It’s faster? Isn’t the RCZ-R heavier than the 308 gti?
@@SapphireSamC mine was 278hp stock with 100 octane fuel. Erogation to 255 max speed is amazing for a 1.6 liter , goes waay better that this 308. Plus Rcz-R have a so important but not considered plus : aerodinamycs which plays a key factor ! At 130km/h the car is literally pushed down by the air downforce which flows through the car silouette ant the curved glass roof.
@@solarflare2199Ah ok, fair play. That makes sense. I’ve got the 308 Gti and it’s been heavily modified with 325bhp & 325lbft (440nm) torque with the rev limiter raised and the speed limiter deleted. It’s an incredible car around the Nurburgring. I love it!
It's just as well that the car is as light as it is, because I've heard rather scary reports as to how expensive Alcon discs and pads are.
2000 euros pretty much if you want to replace the disks 😁 Mine is near that time
@@lok687 Apparently there are good aftermarket alternatives available, check them out before spending 2k on discs lol
2000 euro is for discs and pads
It's not even really light, it got a normal weight, just peugeot communicating the wrong weight to make people think it's lighter
Count 900€ for Zimmermann or Tarox aftermarket discs. 2000 are for the original Peugeot
Wow
380mm* not 390
I love this car
So short ratios couldn’t imagine the consumption andwonder performance if it 100kmh in second and 200 kmh in 4th gear
Would you like to drive my Volvo S90 T5 (+Stage 1) 2017 Model?
Love Peugeots and Frenchcars, but Peugeot abandoned the gearheads😭😭😭
How you can know the power output without putting into a dyno? I'm asking since I wanna buy one, but in Mexico, this model has been sold since 2016 or 17, I don't know exactly which specs are for each year. For sure, automatic version are those with 220 hp, I guess? Anyone?
There is no automatic version of the GTi. The most powerful automatic version they have from that that year is the GT model with 205 hp. I think the last generation of the GT model did have a 225 hp engine aswell. but its nothing compared to the GTi.
I just can’t stomach that backwards RPM meter. So weird for me.
Can you try Passat 2.0 tsi 280 ps. Its a great car
The other day I had one keeping up with my stage 1 Focus ST on the Autobahn at 200+ and I was irritated because I didn't knew there where Passats with that amount of power.
@@nitrovent Yeah, the Passat 2.0 TSI with 280 PS is a real sleeper! It's often underestimated because of its classy and understated look, but under the hood, it's a beast. The combination of the 2.0-liter turbocharged engine and the 4MOTION all-wheel-drive system delivers incredible performance and traction. It's perfect for both spirited drives and long highway cruises. The handling is precise, the acceleration is thrilling, and it still offers the comfort and practicality you expect from a Passat. It’s definitely a hidden gem among performance wagons!
@@nitrovent your stage 1 is probably doing nothing, go have the car dyno tested to see the real power
@@Chris-hw4mq It certainly does not add much top-end power. But it does a lot in the mid range. I have a K&N filter kit, Airtec intercooler, gfb diverter valve and a custom tune by Edge Autosport. I specifically asked for a conservative tune because it is my daily and I drive it about 20k km per year. I'm thinking of adding a 200 cell catted downpipe but TÜV approval could be an issue with intercooler and filter mod.
@@nitrovent you should trage it in for a focus st with the 2.3 ecoboost. 280Hp stock and with an intake , intercooler and tune by revo you can get 400 hp, its the 2.3 from the mustang
the famous THPanne, good luck with that
In theory, the 308 GTI has a unique version of that engine. Forged pistons, totally revised. Most reliable of the thp family.
@@pokest225 most reliable, but is it realiable?
@@AndriusVlasovas according to owners, it is.
125.000km, still no issues
It's because of half knowledge like here that I got mine for cheap. The brakes are twice as expensive as normal though it should be no issue (doing 30mpg as a daily, spirited drives included, compensate well and they last quite a while)
Porque essas bomba não vem pro Brasil ?? Que triste 😢
I want to see a pov of Ferrari F40
Can you go back to your old view because the dragy is blocking up too much of the screen.
Why don't they make a three-door body? This bus is not a sporty style.
The same I30N, Megane RS, Civic Type R, RS3 Audi, etc..all are 4 doors
A lot of manufacturers have stopped making 3 door cars for quite some time.
Bare in mind that this 308 aren't made anymore nor do they make GTI models anymore.
Is what it is but sucks a lot tho.
because hatches with 3 door is useless and not sporty lol. HURACÁN is sporty with 2 doors bruh. not a fat hatch 😂
Is there a stationwagon version of this?
No. They realised that if hardly anyone bought the hatchback then nobody would have bought an SW
If you don't want a tool track, take the GT version as station wagon. You'll still get 200-220bhp from a reliable engine with the same achievable 45mpg like with the 270 gti version. You just don't get the track capable, somewhat expensive brakes nor the limited slip diff in the front from the gti
my name is max
FINALLY
How did peugeot get the gti moniker 😅
1280kg is crazy light
Tbh its more like 1435kg. Stil lightweight these days 😁
@@lok6871205 kg announced and real is 1280kg.
it's an all-aluminium body, that's why it's so light
It's not lighter than other car of this era, It was not thde lightest, in fact the weight announced by peugeot was a lie, they were promoting a fake weight from an other version of the 308, the basic 308 with no option, not the gti, thanks the law for that changed
@theRaw6 I've got the 270 version, no glass roof: 1320kg with full tank without me in it on a scale
What about some new/different cars? You‘ve reviewed the 308 Gti 3 or 4 times already 🤦🏼♂️
He likes that car so he uses every opportunity to drive it again. I mean that says a lot about how good is this car, if someone who drove almost everything like it so much :)
@@VR6Bokieh not really
As you should have a variety
@VR6Boki I wonder what Max drives then?
@@spolo123 don't know really, but when you mention it, would be interesting to find out.
Liter kw ???
its a 1.6 with 199kw
@@lok687 thanks car is death speed 😃🚀
1.6, 200 kw
Good performance, good handling, nice to drive despite poor pedals, agricultural gearshift, piss poor ergonomics - dumb steering wheel, reverse spinning tacho, all secondary controls on a slow touchscreen. Not one of the great Peugeot hot hatches.
That's why I refrained for 8 years before getting mine. I only had to stop bitching and then got one 😅
Just do it
@@spolo123 Had an early one for 2 years until I found a Megane RS 275 Trophy, night and day :)
Im frensh ! I promesses you this car no have power
No Chance
I smoke That little shit 😪🤷🏻♂️😂
Last acceptable Peugeot car. A pitty.
É quase uma copia perfeita da Audi....
só é copia se for menos bom, Audi é merda nesta categoria
@@joaoopiniao1446 vlw inveja!
Le faux son moteur est seulement décrié chez Peugeot alors qu’il existe chez tout le monde🤷🏻♂️
would buy it if it had a more reliable engine
the engine is fine, its forged
aint the engine its the gearbox
Very reliable engine. The only problem is the brakes being very expensive. Biggest issue's are the front suspension failing/brake pistons rusting/and the fuel tank failing (but only if you overfill it) For the rest this car doesnt actualy have any big issue's. There are some examples of the gearbox failing aswell. But most of them are doing fine.
I always heard the 1.6 THP is horrible, or did they adjust the issues in newer versions?
@@Cvakaaa Pretty much any 1.6 thp (there called puretech now) from 2016+ have most of the issue's fixed.
Before trying one, you should already plan to call a repairer when this s**t 1.6 THP engine breaks down
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Question to owners: is this engine reliable? I mean maintenance not fuel consumption.
It is, forged by peugeot sport.
Such a shame that there’s no automatic😕
Some of us see that as a good thing..
@@dgbservices6049 it’s fun yes, until you're stuck in a traffic jam and your legs get tired from shifting gears
The light weight was just a lie from peugeot, they took the weight of the most basic 308 with no option and put this weight on all the version of the 308 (you can find this info everywhere on google),
In 2018 due to a change of the law (WLTP test) they were forced to communicate the weight of the actual car (with real actual finition, engine and option) and guess what, suddenly the 308 took 110kg, but in fact it was his real weight since the begining
I still feel bad for the people who bought a 308gti and claiming everywhere they got a light bomb, while they just got a shittynormalweight car with a totally bad engine 😂
Though your story is true (the first part) I've weighted mine at 1320kg on a scale without me in it, with a full tank. Other hot hatches weight in with more that 150kg at least. That EMP2 platform really was a masterpiece of engineering.
And btw why you think Max likes it this much 😊
Only downside is that the engine is unreliable. It uses the wet timing belt which means you need to replace that about every 60K kilometers (KM). Not sure what the other downsides are, but there are more if I'm not wrong.
Dunno what you’ve been reading mate but I’ve owned one of these (currently looking for another one) and it absolutely does not have a wet belt system, it uses a reinforced, external chain for it’s valve timing. Think you maybe getting muddled up with Peugeot’s more modern 1.2 pure tech engines. A wet belt wouldn’t last 5 minutes with the amount of power these put out!
@@dgbservices6049 My appology, I indeed twisted the models between pure tech engine and the engine from the 308 GTI.
But what I do read is that the chain tensioners get's a failure which leads to a broken chain or stretched chain.
Is this true? Also since you owned a 308 GTI, what are the positive and negatives of the car? I'm really interested in buying one for myself :)
@@mr.bossiegaming2530 Regarding timing chain tensioner problems, On the earlier thp engines yes, the older 175hp version found in cars like the 207 GTi and Mini Cooper from like 15 years ago. Mechanically my 308 had no problems but then I did service it properly which is obviously important no matter what you go for. The only expensive problem that occurred was when the Alcon brakes needed replacing. Admittedly they were nearly £400 per wheel! 😳
It's not using the wet belt. This engine is forged by peugeot sport. Now on 125.000km, no issues so far
That speedo going right to left is tickling my brain in a bad way
disgusting, srsly
Oh look something different than an audi, bmw or mercedes 😂
Guys, 2/7 days this cars working good, 5/7 days this car is a problem car. THP engine is so bad, build with ass literaly.
If you buy one 2/10 chances you got a good number. Trash car Peugeot make it for during 10 year max
My İ20N 204hp and 275nm is faster than this GTI
Not really but yours got a very sharp, precise steering and chassis. Congrats!
Your I20N would be destroyed by this GTi.
1.6 THP is still shit engine?
This is probably the only 1.6thp that actualy does well. Have not heard any issue's on this specific version of it (been around since the rcz R.) Very reliable
@@lok687 No issue with mine since 2017
@@Parmenion1522 No issue with mine since 2016 😆 the engine is probably the strongest thing on this car.
@@lok687
How many kilometers u got?
Older versions are, they made a revision of that engine which was introduced sometime in 2014 and newer versions are reliable. It is easier to know what engine is by emission standard, non-problematic versions are Euro 6.
Big fan India please pin me bro ❤❤
People who ask for a pin don't deserve 4:43 one.
1.6 THP Trash engine :)
The gti engine is not trash. 125.000km no issues
Not the Peugeot-sport-built 270 it’s pretty bulletproof. They’ve done a lot more than just bolt a big turbo in the side of their basic 1.6 prince engine!
whut up nerdsssssssssssss
It's ashame the engine isn't reliable
Wouldn't buy French car
Unfounded prejudice from the reliability rep peugot had in the mid-late 00’s. These engines are forged from factory. One of my friends has one and he has had no issues with it.
It's all about maintenance
This one is very reliable, older versions before Euro 6 can be problematic.
This one in 263 form is reliable.
None of the German cars are fun to drive than these French hot hatches. Just shame French cars heave weak cheap clutches and gearboxes
Nice but wrong GTI
Bet you wouldn’t say that if you drove one it’s a class above a Golf as a driver’s car
It pretty much destroyed the GTI of that era. And it was cheaper aswell.
@@dgbservices6049 no I probably would. I see more of Golf GTIs than these. Golf was more popular probably for a reason
@@TheStigsSimcousinI watched this guy’s video of the Golf 7.5 GTI which he did a couple of weeks before this one. Safe to say he didn’t exactly seem overwhelmed with excitement 😅
Peugeot, what a bad joke. Only drive cars from Stuttgart, but once got a Peugeot as a rental car, what an instrument panel, disgusting!
The interior is so horrible the steering wheel and cluster with the small screen/minimalist das ruin the car for me
i just dont like the car. 3 seconds slower from 100-200 than my stock i30n dct but it has 100kg less weight. fake sound sucks too. thats not an A tier hot hatch.
You only have to view this guy’s (and other’s) videos from a few years ago where they tested performance figures of both cars back to back, to realise your statement is built on sand and not stone.
The facelift 308 came out in 2018 at just under 30k. So the first gen/pre facelift I30N is the competitor. Not the DCT i30N as that came out later and was priced at under 35k
There's a few videos on CZcams comparing the 308 and the pre facelift I30N and the 308 beats it in every performance test.
Although the I30N has the far better exhaust sound and all the configurable adjustable drive modes
Read the top gear review from the 308 gti. It says the real difference with the i30N (I've tested both)
The fun factor is higher with the i30N and where it stops, the 308 takes over. It means the 308 is for mountain passes and the i30N for more normal roads fun
"Peugeot 308 GTI review: a surprisingly wild hot hatch" that article is called