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- So I want to design an automated dirt bike rack with a canopy underneath for dirt bike and camping gear. In this video we design and build the motorised heavy duty slide mechanism to move the bike from the ground to the back of the ute.
This if the first build episode in the Dirt bike canopy build series! Many more to come :)
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0:00 Dirt Bike Canopy Concept
2:33 Jig for bike Canopy
3:50 Unistrut Heavy duty slider design
6:24 Slide Extension
7:36 First Test
8:42 Strap Free front wheel holder design
10:50 Worm Drive actuator
12:01 Strap Free front wheel holder design #2
13:26 Second Test
14:10 Motorcycle Peg Holders
15:27 Heavy Duty Slide Design #2
20:55 Laser Cut Heavy Duty Slide
22:59 Heavy Duty Slide Test
23:57 Pulley Design
25:09 Installing Jig onto Car
25:52 Vehicle Test - Auta a dopravní prostředky
There isn't a better feeling in the world than having an idea, making it come to life then seeing it work exactly how you imagined it. Sick job!
Another great build. As someone who has almost damaged a bike and myself during loading I’m very impressed. Looking forward to the “finial” design.
Are we not going to talk about how sick the 3D designing stuff is?!?
Mate just when I thought your content couldn't get any cooler you come out with this. Man what a sick idea and design skills are next level. Thanks for sharing mate.
Love your work! Your designs are excellent, your CAD work spot on, your fabrication is improving and your videography and storytelling is fantastic.
Best CZcams recommendation I’ve had in a long time. Looking forward to checking out the rest of your channel!
Glad you enjoyed the video! Cheers for the support.
The amount of motivation uncle Richo gives is too good for words.... 🖤
Design and implement
Thank you!!! Get after it 🤌🏼🔥
I like the (incomplete) idea of a flat false deck (with draws), then something like the pulley used here (prob manual boat winch for me 😅)but just an extended peice for the back wheel (maybe one that pulls out like a trundle) and a spare no.plate
I love the iteration and design you go through with all your projects. Definitely a whole different level to most CZcams car channels which I really appreciate as I enjoy the same process (albeit at a much lower level).
It’s awesome to see how far you have come from your first vids!!
Keep it up!
Love it, like any good project it gets changed and refined time after time, it's a journey! I'm a fitter and moto guy, I love this shit!
Well done mate. It's getting there. No new concept is ever perfect on the first iteration. And I can appreciate just how many lessons and changes occurred during the process. Looking forward to the final product.
Try mounting the tie down straps off of the lower triple clamps instead of bars. They will be closer together at top and also shorter distance of strap to base mount. It's way more stable 🤙
This is something I feel could make you rich. Patent it for different trucks. ❤
That this is awesome! I like the foot peg holders actually. But I would mount them to the main system, NOT the slider. That way when the bike is in place, the foot peg holders secure the bike, as well as the slider to the ENTIRE rigid system mounted to the truck. So it will not allow it to rock or sway while underway.
Would be easy to incorporate as you only need to mount them on the part the base is, and they would be use a little wider than the slide. So the slide would pass though where they are mounted. When the slide in fully slide up, the bike would stop at the foot peg holders.
I would also incorporate a secondary way to get the slide up, incase of winch failure. If you are out somewhere, and the winch fails, you still need a way to load the bike.
You can also make it so the rear flip section of the ramp, acts as a rear tire holder when folded up. One thing I always remember was a trip to desert with my dad as a kid. We had bikes on a trailer towed behind a motorhome. With the bumps on the dirt road, a rear tire on one of the bikes bounced off of the rail, and the bike was resting on the sprocket that caught the rail, and was just hanging there. From then on we always but a strap around the rim and the rail, just like you did the very first time on the front tire. I would do that to your rear tire as well, any bumps in the road at speed may cause the rear end of the bike to jump off, unless the peg holders are used.
One last thing, I also wouldn't extend the ramp to fit the truck on a level road, if you are going to go anywhere with it, it won't just be a flat parking lot. you should just leave the small section as a ramp if needed but just allow the slide to go to that point, that way you can load and unload in any terrain. May have to man handle the bike a little to get it up, but the slide is made for more gear storage and some ease of loading. But in the wild, nothing will be even, so don't factor in the slide being able to go on the small extension all the time.
I think the foot peg holders will get another run, or like you suggested Tie down over the back wheel. I do like your suggestion of the foot peg holders on the canopy and not the slide, cheers for the comment!
Here is the next fab channel to blow up. You will have 250k by June. Great content.
Awesome idea the market needs this!
Well(d)on(e) !
Great job on this video. I really love how you show the the design process and how to overcome the issues each time
The best versions of these I have seen are in Canada with the snow mobiles, they run the same type mechanism as a skip bin hook truck and just lay the tray flat on the ground and pick it all up when tied down, gives you endless amount of trays you can run
I appreciate the work that goes into refining your ideas, looking forward to see how this develops.
Looks awesome. I would put a pitbull trailer restraint on the back. Will lock it in place with good access to the rear tire. No straps needed .
Soooo sick. Can't wait to see it all finished
Nice to see someone else to do this and end up with a very similar design and troubles as I did. Mine was aluminum and carried a sportster as well as dirt bikes. Great job.
Omg, mate you are an absolute wizard, the skill, patience, determination and creativity you put into your work is amazing. Love the content🤙🏼
Great Video looking forward to seeing the finished product and canopy.
Love the detail you go into showing all the pit falls you find and how you go about finding a solution very interesting keep up the good work
Nice design work and process. I have _thought_ (not built) about something similar but only ever for one bike. You're right about the tie down points needing to be further out, the compression in bike forks works great for locking it down but not so good for lateral movement. Looking forward to the finished product.
Love your work Richard - you're skillset is growing exponentially!
Truly amazing work mate! Well done, and thanks for sharing all your learnings with us.
I want one! It's just brilliant. Thanks for sharing
Good effort man, I built a something similar when i wanted an electric ladder to my attic same concept but just longer and made from timber, worked well even automatically closed the lid when the ladder was fully up.
Man, you’re such an inspiration to me! As someone who strives to do all my own things in the shed you really give ideas and makes me want to push myself to doing cool stuff like you 🙌🏼
Glad to hear, get after it 💪🏼
For the foot pegs you can weld a a tie down point and use turn buckles and it allows you to have the back and stable as it’s all in the middle of the bike pulling it down.
As a rear wheel holder, I would go back toward your lifting extension section, place stand-offs to the side so you can still push your front wheel through, then the extension can slide over the rear wheel to capture it. Means you're stuck with bikes at the same wheelbase. Sidenote can you still register 2023/4 250x?
This is awesome. Well done Richard!
Awesome mate👍
Great work. I'm a sport bike rider and have always wanted an autoloader.
You are a weapon mate! Progression at its finest 🙌 done well mate!
Thanks mate! Appreciate the support!
Okay now that is sick. Good stuff.
I love seeing/watching all the prototype going on mate
Cheers Michael!
Awesome Ute!
Another beauty 🤙
From the USA here. Great channel and an excellent build.
So good mate. 👏👏👏
Awesome vid.
What a brilliant idea, hats off to you brother 👍
Great channel, you sir have a new subscriber. See you next time.
~Jonny5🥁
Very cool idea 🤙
Amazing ingenuity and design. Very cool! the progression and you sharing your improvements in design is great to watch. WIder tie down brackets would solve the wobble... but that probably doesn't meet you design parameters.
Cheers, agree on the wider tie down. Will try and figure out a way to build it all in 🤟
Im all about giving input without being negative but what about a half canopy and put the bikes sideways, or a rear hitch high mount carrier, the center of gravity seems a bit high, and it’s best to compress the suspension or fit a suspension lock because as you go over corrugations the bikes suspension will articulate and the straps may come loose,
Do you think its higher than a loaded canopy with rooftop tent + Roof rack etc though? 100% agree on the suspension lock, will use one for sure!
Awesome
The foot peg tie down on a turn buckle would really stabilize it and lock it in a lot. Love the idea progression. Keep it up
I use 2 turn buckles with a carabina on each end. Lock them off to the foot pegs and use no tiedowns.
bloody love your work and persistence with the design! but i can’t help to keep thinking how much easier is would be to extend your tray and ride it up a $100 ramp? 😂
Great work. For your tie downs look up moto cinch. I tie my bike down with chains that are the right length to pull the pegs down and works well
Glad to see ya on a 2 stroke👍
Coming from a MTB background I find them a lot more fun in the corners, will never change!
Great video and build, wish I had one XD subbed!
Scrap the tie down all together and make a turn buckle set up like ballards motow rack, turn buckle straight to the foot pegs and back down
How would you get it to a point where you could use the turnbuckles though?
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Sooo much work my dude ! well done 🙌
Hahaha yeah way more than I thought it was going to be 😂😅
smart build
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Great build Richard, love these types of videos. For stability, instead of having the 'push down' peg holders, could you pull the pegs into a slot with an angled down top? Since the bike would be pulling into it it would apply downward pressure each side creating the stability.
Love this idea, just need to come up with some sort of release mechanism for lowering the bike down!
Great content my guy, too much 🔥
Too much welding?
I really enjoyed this video. I am designing a similar rack for My Jeep Cherokee for spare tire and small cargo box.
Rich I always appreciate how ya think outside of the box most of ya projects I don't see your vision until it all starts coming together and then it just works and works really sweet 👌 but this time I reckon you could've designed and built a slick offroad bike trailer that way you could still run ya canopy and won't have to worry about low hanging trees or power lines 😂
Haha thanks mate, also would be a great build. I honestly' don't have space to keep a trailer. Maybe down the line when I get a bigger shed!!
@DesignedandBuilt hahaha I also don't have the space but somehow I've managed to get myself 3 cars and 3 trailers 😆
There is over centre front wheel carriers that lock in depending on tyre size , so when it’s set correctly there is no need for straps ! With the rear wheel why not design a clamp that goes over the rear wheel that secures to the slide and that can be easily removed with the right tools. This will also help further eliminate the need for straps and will also provide you a way to add security to the build !
Thanks mate, someone mentioned it before. I'm going to try it!
My mate has a trailer that has loop bars that u push over da top da front tire so didn't need tie dwn straps, works great, I can send photos if u like, great vids
I've wanted to do this for a long time
Just got picked up from the algorithm!
with 2 ramps weld them together that will create more stifness
Hi mate, great build btw
For the rear wheel tie down system, have a look at the pitbull transport tie down design. Works very well for road bikes allowing the suspension on the bike to move/work
Had a look mate, they look good!
Great progress you could look at a wider tie down once bike is up, stretching to the opposite side of canopy rather than just side of slide.
Would make it stable for sure, any bright ideas of how to do that without getting on the canopy? I want E Z 🤣
maybe have the tie down point on between on the front of the headboard near the cab quarter windows
@@brianharc6511 100% this, handle bar to there and bike would be rock solid
Love the builds and I so wish I had the time to do what you do. Also, I'm not sure if you are aware, but when you tie a bike down with those straps. The strap should go around your fork on top of the bottom triple clamp. It makes the bike so much more ridged and stable.
Could you use carabiner and turn buckle tie down points at the foot pegs and recess the rear wheel also like the Ballard’s bike rack might resolve a lot of the dramas and no need for tie downs at the front either
Love your work it’s awesome to see. One concern I can see is height and taking out tree branches ? Overall 100% well done
I appreciate all you efforts mate great design, but I think the bike is sitting way to high. what about just a trailer? 😂
nice idea... just don't forget if the bike is loaded up if you go into an underground carpark...
Try an alternative approach - lock the bike in to the ramp via the bash plate or frame rails - add in some attachment points (twist 90 degrees to lock in?) / hook holes to the bottom of the bike, add a post with top plate to mirror the bash plate to the slider and just hook the bike on to that... if you can get the attachment pole to also be capable of being tightened down (maybe an old ratchet strap handle welded on), you will get the bike locked on under tension...
I know the challenge is in the project and solving the problems, but for that amount of work, you could have just built a trailer instead...
Looks wicked mate, well done.
Highly recommend turnbuckles to the foot pegs rather than straps to the handle bars
Great project 👍
I'd of kept the actuated ramp but made it so it somehow hugged around the back tyre (like a claw?) for stability.
Yeah I like the idea, can’t picture a way to do it though 😅
Hi there first time to your channel, I like the idea - looks great. If you dont mind input you could use your winch to dog down your bike to the rack, with bottom supports below the foot pegs..
Nicely done mate. Have a cam at the top or a large bearing that has a tapered lead feeling it as it reaches the top of the travel. It will hold itself tight then. Make the 2 ramps one u shape that travel together, that can still go around the spare, but limit rocking as the width is greater. The tie downs could cross over then. Also Ballard's has a locking wheel holder. Very well done. I'd love to support your channel with laser cutting and folding, but I'm in QLD. Cheers Justin eva4x4 & metal mfg.
Cheers Justin, love the cam idea. Will have a go at implementing it. I’ll have a look at the locking front wheel holder.
Cheers mate, if you were Victorian based I would take you up on that!!
"The electrician is drinking a beer and the plumbers doing the wiring." Crack up 😅
Dude throw some Bike Binderz on that thing. Look em up
Low key nice FJ40
Well didn’t mate haven’t really watched to many of your videos before but being a Mechanic I liked it being a bit more technical than the usual other people. Thanks.
Glad you enjoy it! Cheers for the support.
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cool
Add (discrete) tie down points on the tray backboard horizontal top bar. Strap from bike bars. They'll secure and brace everything.
Reckon you could do it without climbing on the canopy though?
If you move the front tie-down strap loop on the carriage further rearward, there is no need for a rear wheel tie-down. This is how almost all motorcycle trailers work.
Nice one Richard, you really need to do something with the back wheel though mate, it could easily bounce of the skid plate it's sitting on and then you'll be in a whole world of hurt my friend. Seeya Rob..................and don't go into underground car parks haha, or low branches on the dirt roads.
Cheers Rob, yep will do!!! Haha yeah agree.
They say indecision is the key to flexibility.
Good job, the winch set up I was thinking would be better using chain and sprocket to pull it up for one thing you could gear it for two it’ll never slip which equals faster and sturdier, big version of a motorbike chain and sprockets . Well thought of project on your behalf.
Yeah thats a sick idea, I am a little annoyed at the slow speed. I'll have a look into it.
Cool idea, but why not just get the hitch mounted one. It allows me the use of the whole back of my truck bed AND essentially gives me a lift if I need to do some trailside work.
A bike cannot legally protrude more than 150 millimetres from the outermost side of either side of the vehicle in Vic. Other states are likely the same.
@@nordic5490 is that truck very narrow? Mine goes behind my Toyota Tundra without any protrousion. I do turn the handlebars, so that shortens it some. I have a 2023 KTM 500, so I don't imagine it's smaller than the one he has.
Great idea, and great vid man. What’s that plate brake bender setup you have in the garage?
It's just a V block which is on a hydralic press. Check Machinery house out.
Love the engineering and everything but it sits way too high for my liking. I'd be worried about low hung trees, bridges etc
Take it under Montague st next episode 😂
Great video
Hahaha, would be a good way to get on the telly!
Yeah nice job l have a similar problem sheds to small infact the planet is a bit limited so many idea's so little time
Maybe two models one with custom tray for maximum fit and one to retro fit old mate's tray
Add flatdown loading behind headboard mate,lower vertically ,bikes too high in air,or just have loading winch pole,that can be moved to either side,simple
I quite like it the way it is mate, CoG won't be much higher than a fully laiden canopy with Roof top tent so I'm not too stressed!
Awesome video mate! What sort of tolerance do you use on your keyways with the laser cut pieces?
I go size for size! Do a test bit first though, may need to be adjusted given the laser!
What if you used turn buckles to the foot pegs to hold it down?
look at bike binderz for a possible footpeg tie down solution.
i like the build but for me there is a glaring problem your bike can be taken out by a low hanging tree branch which will drastically limit how far off the main roads you can go.
Love the concept . Love the no strap tie down idea need a couple more brains to nut that idea out as i can see the wheel jumping out the top on that concept also do you normaly run shocker savers when you tie down drom the bars ?
Hey Peter, the plan was to use that in conjunction with the footpeg holders, I should have explained properly in the video. Yes I do! Will run them for sure, just a lapse in concentration!!
@DesignedandBuilt i undertand i do things like that . Just wasnt sure so many people dont use them
Also love the 40