Craziest Pro Game!! - Real Board Baduk
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- čas přidán 28. 03. 2023
- Most of the time you have a real good idea of what people are going to play in a professional Baduk match. These two players apparently decided that wasn't going to fly and instead played some of the craziest go you'll see this year. Tengen? Sanrensei? Why yes, why not?
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There must be some history between these players
Intelligent humor with a soulful game. Thx. Please keep hunting down these wicked games. . .
Thanks for sharing. And cheers for talking about the meaning of the moves that were actually played, rather than just rattling off an endless list of Ai variations that never happened in the game.
W's strategy made a lot of sense. If you played sanrensei and got double 3-3'd, the move you'd play to expand would not be as far as tengen, and if it was, you probably wouldn't be able to fight severely and hold it.
Absolutely wild game. Giga Chad moves from both players and excellent commentary, as always!
P.S. loving the real board content. More please! :)
Surprising game. I would surrender on each move after move ten (be it white or black).
So much of calculated agression. Lovely game.
but of course white got influence by playing the double 3-3, I mean its not for that the 3-3 is for?
Get three connorrs and you win.. Get four and you lose. Some players hate 3-3 (drywin), but this is a valid technic.
Whatever works.
This game is somehow both 150 years in the past and 30 years in the future
i know, right? I love finding weird games like this!
The craziest game I've seen was at the 30th Shin'ei tournament final in 2000 between Takao Shinji (Black) vs Yamashita Keigo (White).
It started with 5-5, followed by tengen, then 5-5 in the opposite corner.
I would be very interested in seeing an AI react to this game, no joke!
What a whimsical spectacle to behold.
go is all about love
That's funny. Just today I decided that I will experiment with Tengen to see if it's any good. So far I lost three out of three games, but at least they were exciting.
as a followup on that experiment- try out the black hole, it's ridiculous & i absolutely love it.
@@sjs9698 I checked it out and don't quite get the idea behind it. What is it trying to accomplish?
It's good on 9x9 for sure that's all I open with but I've never tried on 19x19
Tengen as a first move only works if you want to humiliate a noob. Coners and sides just give more control of the game.
I treat early tengen much like 1-1 move. Sure, it is a legal move. That's about it. You will get punishid for this joke.
@@samtux762 The corners and sides are miai, so even if you play tengen first you'll still get half of the corners. You give your opponent the initiative to play the biggest side (even that can be avoided by mirroring until the side extensions are done, but that's lame), but the stone at tengen helps a lot to invade, fight and build moyo. It's a decent compensation for komi.
According to the engine it's suboptimal by one point, but tbh such small differences don't matter in amateur games. It certainly isn't a joke move.
These players agreed the first 4 moves before game started and then they could play whatever they liked
As soon as I saw B play tengen, I thought "I hope he loses."
I will never have any delusion of being any good at Go, but at least here instantly recognized what was "crazy" in the video's picture, with the four stones in tne middle of the board. It breaks the basics of 1) start in the corners, then 2) go for edges using 3rd and 4th line, and only then start going into the middle. One of many Go proverbs: "There is no territory in the middle."
A truth about Go proverbs is that they can be generally true while not in all cases true. The game is more subtle than can be expressed completely in proverbs.
If you delay *too* long in branching into the middle, the middle territory can become decisive.
But here, the players were maybe just trying to throw their opponent off guard, for psychological effect, for the sake of perverse fun, or to make their opponent underestimate their skill, by making an intentionally "bad" move. In chess, the equivalent might be a dubious opening for the sake of "throwing the opponent out of book." This can be a valid tactic if the "bad" opening has a lot of traps and can maybe be refuted, but only with correct play, for which an opponent might not be prepared, if they are not a grandmaster.
At 4:23 there's basically zero chance that this opening sequence had ever been played in history lol
LMFAO!!! " ITS FINE....."
This was… something.
tengem ia a perfectly valid opening
debate me
That is wild. How did this 1kyu make it to 5dan? 😂 Still very interesting though
It’s like 4 9x9 games
Kind of surprising, that neither player had a chance to invest moves in the upper part of the board. Was it personal, or did they really had no time to fight in the upper part of the board? I would have (sure, I am not a pro dan).
How do you play this game? It is bloody difficult. 1 dan games are harder to follow, than Einstein's STO/GTR, or quantum mecanics. Yep, I have PhD in physics and I get modern theories. Yet, I don't get baduk/go.
Fight in the upper right. Why black chose to move to 4th line as opposed to 3 extension? This would give him a base, this is a solid move.
At 21:20
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5 minutes into video...
Ok they've decided to troll everyone
Han Woojin is insanely skilled. He's the 2023 GLOBIS international cup winner and is now rated at 7 dan professional (7P). He had to beat 2 players rated 3600+ from China to win that cup too! He's a rising star and a real genius.. He's only 17 right now, so he'll be a monster when he's fully mature. Woojin was the white player, and he set a nasty trap. Good fighting up top, and genius life on the bottom.
For Those of you who don't know just how awesome a player Han Woojin is: The player with white in this match.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globis_Cup
He won the international Globis CUP last month. He beat 2 of China's top players rated 3500+ to do it also. He is already a top 100 player in the world. He's a rising star rated at 7P right now.