RWBY Theory - The Truth of Ozpin's Death at Beacon and His Return in Atlas: The Long Memory
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- Oscar used the Long Memory, Ozpin's cane, in the finale of RWBY Volume 7 to... do what exactly? Well it has something to do with Magic, Time, and the fight Ozpin had with Cinder in Beacon's Vault... Let me know your thoughts in the comments below!
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I always though that Ozpin lost against Cinder because of his old age and she easily overpower him with a fire blast. Ozpin may be powerful, but his vessel is still very HUMAN. And like human, it's mortal, it can be hurt, can bleed and age.
However, now you bring this topic about Ozpin's reincarnation cycle, this bring a new light to the fight on Volume 3 finale. Basically Ozpin didn't really loss the battle, he allowed himself to be defeated and so, allow his soul to move to another host more quickly than the usual time-span for the next reincarnation. Remember back on Volume 6, Chapter 4, when Watts was shocked about the news about Ozpin's return and as well Salem's fury. When he said "So soon?!", that what brough it up.
I think Ozpin lost because he gave away his magic/maiden powers, Ozpin has very little magic left.
Tyrian said "So soon?!" not Watts, didn't he?
That was Tyrian that said "so soon" not watts
That's what I thought, Cinder is smart but Ozpin is way smarter than her.
@FalconPunch827 his daughters aren't maidens, they died in the fight of Ozpin vs. Salem
0:14 Translation: When Big papa Ironwood hipfired the farm boy
With the big iron on his hip
fallout new vegas opening cutscene style
@@OzSeoux Truth is, Ozpin...The game was rigged from the start.
Ozpin’s weapon caught my attention almost as soon as I started watching RWBY. The man ran an institution that trains people with shotgun gauntlets, sniper rifle l/scythes, and hammers that double as grenade launchers. In my mind he had to have the most underrated weapon of them all. I never realized that it had a name though. Fitting I think.
Given what you have brought up here I think we all need to see that fight with Cinder in a new light. If we ever get a flashback to its conclusion I’m willing to bet that Cinder indeed believed that she had killed Ozpin. Perhaps she had Oz on the back foot only for him to use the long memory before death as suggested in this video: to help get himself back in the fight sooner or at least better equipped the next time around. That scepter turned cane is much like Oz himself in that it’s something magical that predates the human civilization and even species present on Remnant and has clearly been updated over time. It would make sense that it would have some cool abilities none but Oz know about.
When I first saw Ozpin use his cane back in volume 3, I thought it was going to be some sort of lightsaber (or something similar but powered but dust crystals like Weiss's sword).
Ozpin is going to pull a return of the king, I can feel it.
Omg now that you mentioned it, I seriously want to see that now! Lol
@@Cinder_Fall Holly... The Cinder Fall.
Is that bad?
Cinder fall?
More like
Cinder shall *Fall*
@@GCHumanGuy No, Cinder already fell. She's looking for a name change at the time, as people keep making terrible puns after her fight with Raven. I myself have suggested Cinder Die, Cinder Burn To Death, and Cinder Just Die Already. Does anyone have anything else that they think would work?
5:35 That would also mean Ruby didn't actually lie to Oscar in V6 E4.
Os: "I'm just gonna be another one of his lives, aren't I?"
Ruby: "Of course not. You're your own person-"
Qrow: "Don't lie to him Ruby, we're better than that.."
If Ozpin does end up permanently dying by the finale, I so want Ruby to say to Qrow, "I guess I didn't lie to him after all."
I have a feeling that Oscar has the ability to keep a two souls apart because that’s what he wants the most
Maybe that's his semblance
@@sonowbrand7824 That's an interesting idea, lets run with this. Maybe an extension of this could be some kind of power negation semblance? Like controlling aura to the point where his can overpower another person's aura and effectively seal it off from being used.
@@buddyb3165 well thats not quite true cause ozpin did yank control of oscar's body at one point if i recall.. but i guess it could be he just isn't nearly as strong as ozpin with his years of experience..
@@2leggedhorror I'm not saying he has that semblance, or even if he has it unlocked yet. I'm just expanding on an idea I herd that sounded intreating.
Didn't he say he was okay with merging in volume 6, wouldn't that go against him wanting to have his soul all to himself and not combine with Ozma.
Well I never thought Ozpin's cane had a name, let alone an awsome one like that. but the abilities are interesting, the ability to store time? I wonder if there is a limit to how far back he can store, a millenia? centry? who knows?
Ozpin isn't that old.
(At least compared to salem.)
Keep in mind. Ozma got killed by the gods. Only to get resurrected, after he made a deal with the god of light. Also, Salem lived millions of years. Ozma only got resurrected due to his curse, after the second wave of humanity.
While Salem was cursed with pretty much true immortality. Untill sue learns her lesson of life and death. Or untill the gods get brought back during a war. And wipes out humanity for good.
(It would make sense for thousands of years to possibly be stored in the cane. But a millennia? Nah.)
@@Dragonsofchaos852 a millenia is a thousand years please look it up I'm sorry our language is like this but mil means 1000 not 1000000
@@thenintenbro7154 my bad.
I wonder if the cane can stored the aura abilities and semblance of the previous recarnations along with the magic. Kinda like power stacking.
Like one for all from my hero academia
Like One For All but as an item instead of a person?
@@jonnjones8263 to be fair, he has magic.
turns out it's like Stasis from Breath of the Wild, but in a square shaped stick
Personally, I think it's the same barrier and that it's more magic than aura. This is mostly because of the point made to show Oscar's aura breaking before he fell with no point to show him regaining his aura as he fell, as they have previously done with Jaune in the training room earlier in Volume 7, which might have happened if Long Memory was storing Ozpin's time/aura. I also this it is magic because of the lightning that was shown in the air around and above Oscar after the barrier broke on the ground. This was the same kind/colour of lightning that can be seen within Ozpin's barrier when he fought Cinder. The differences in the actual appearances of the barriers could pretty easily be attributed to the engine and art style changes from Volume 3 to Volume 7. So, yeah, I don't know exactly what the Long Memory did, whether it was a reserve of aura, time, or magic, but personally, I'm more inclined to believe that it somehow jump-started his ability to access Ozma's magic on his own. This could be backed up by him doing it on his own the second time: he purposefully puts the Long Memory away before he creates the barrier the second time, he refers to it as "that power" which sounds more like something said about magic, not Aura, and finally when Oscar says "You saved me" Ozpin corrects him by saying "No, you saved us" implying that Oscar was the one to control and access the power (whether it was magic or aura). Anyway, that's my two cents. I don't even know if this makes any sense. But maybe I'm more inclined to believe that it's magic because that's the power system that we know the least about, currently, and we have so many rules for Aura that are all so confusing... anyway. Great video!
Ozpin is a badass but he doesn't show it
^I also agree
I disagree, but thats expected considering i have a Salem profile pic
@@goddesssalem4842 I believe Salem, is the strongest and the most powerful person after the Gods left. Her dark powers no match anyone, imagine if she manage to mastery over grim magic and able to resist sliver eyes. She also able to slowly take over a Maiden. She also can absorb magic powers as well.
@@Pikachu-nq8pt Salem doesn't really need to take the magic away from the maidens, she's already a magic user and shes at full strength too. Being a Maiden is a step down for Salem as they are just fragments of Ozma magic and she already kicked his ass. Salem doesn't really care about the maiden powers, she just needs the maidens to get to those relics. But I do agree with you, nobody can challenge Salem in combat, Ozma couldn't best her at full power, he doesn't stand a chance now that he's given his magic away
@@lfz4611 I don't think salem knows how the silver eyes affect her. Maybe that's what summer was trying to do, summer was trying to de-grimm Salem, but Salem took it the wrong way and killed her ass.
*talks about rose garden* me YEEEEESSSSSS WOOOOOOO ITS SHOWTIME!!!!!!!!!
I'm still slightly mad at how it all played out. Sometimes, I would like the RWBY crew to at least do some character development and world building to better understand the plot, and also build more of Oscar.
I could have sworn that after the fall from Atlas, Oscar said “Thank you for saving me.” And Ozpin replied “No. it wasn’t me. It was you. That would mean that Oscar just awakened his semblance, doesn’t it?
It can't be a Semblance because Semblances require Aura to be powered. Oscar's Aura was VERY CLEARLY broken seconds before when Ironwood shot him. So it's either Ozpin's aura (which I personally don't believe Oscar can call upon, only Oz when Oz is in control), or it's magic. Or else the Long Memory restored his Aura somehow but that doesn't make sense either because as Pheonix/Night pointed out the barrier was the wrong colour to be Oscar's Aura.
Speaking of auras, i would like to know more about Salem's aura, we got a glimpse of it in volume 6 episode 4 when she got angry at hearing Ozpins name. Salems Aura is completely different to anything we have seen before in Rwby, maybe it's because shes the last living being created by the gods. Salem aura seems tied to her emotional state, it was like a purple rage which manifests out of nowhere and had the power to destroy that room.
I have to admit, I am curious about Salem's aura aswell.
Salems aura has a life of its own, it was floating around her like something out of a power anime. I think when Salem gets Angry her aura displays her rage. Not going to lie her aura is pretty scary, I wouldn't be surprised if she can kill with just her aura alone.
Maybe because it's tied to her substantial reserves of magic as we can at least assume that like aura magic is tied to the soul
@@dalekcaan8495 @dalek caan So,the black or dark smoke thing was her aura? I just thought she using her dark or grim powers to use shockwave.
@@Pikachu-nq8pt idk what I said was speculation and personally I always thought it was her magic
Something I’m wondering about Oscar is all the memories of Ozpin he already had in his own memories.
A example is why Ozpin let Ruby go to Beacon 2 years before she was 17.
Or even a memory of Summer Rose
Maybe in volume 8 Ruby is going to give up and Oscar will give her a speech about her mother and why Ozpin let her study on Beacon.
Oohh, interesting! I would love to see that in volume 8 :)
I mean Ozpin cane before a scepter from when he was Ozma somehow he must combine the scepter with the mix of technology with it. After reincarnated to new generation of host he must some how still holds and recover the scepter and upgraded it.
Theoretically speaking if long memory can store time can it also store space become that would be cool
Idea: What if towards the end of the series Ozpin basically gives up the remainder of his power to team RWBY, depleting his remaining magic and possibly ending his reincarnation and allowing Oscar to be Oscar and boosting team RWBY so they may have new capabilities/one final upgrade to defeat Salem. It would be a good end to the Oz arc as he would be willingly handing over the power to defeat Salem to others, finally trusting in someone.
In the words of raven, there is no defeating Salem, Salem can only defeat herself
@@bluewhale513 to be fair I don't think she knows the whole truth about salem
Also I do think that the silver eyes may be able to at least remove Salem's immortality or somehow threaten her as salem seems kind of at least weary of the power of the silver eyes
@@bluewhale513 I also believing the same thing, only Salem can kill herself.
@@dalekcaan8495 I don't think so, the most the silver eyes can do to Salem is destroy her Grimm side and turn her human. , Nothing can destroy Salems immortality, she will turn human but she would still be immortal
@@bluewhale513 Isn't Salem's Grimm side like alcohol poisoning whereas it affects her sense of judgement? Salem all her life cared about resurrecting Ozma with anyway to join with him. And you would've thought that Salem would listen to Ozma about his thing said about the gods. But, she went stubborn on Ozma, it's not about Ozma being a little unfaithful and not coming straight to the point and tell her everything because Ozma was still on her side, and Salem ultimately betrayed herself on the history that all her time she wanted nothing but trying to unite with Ozma.
And besides, her attachment to Grimm were what gave her powers to control Grimm and create them in the first place.
All this time Grimm were what kept humanity in Remnant in shape, forcing them to come with all kinds of drastic strides and trained "Huntsmen" to be defenders -which not only that, but to be individualistic for their training has helped them endure through far lengths in life, all obstacles, all hardships that may even come to surprise them, because they know that there is more to life than this ~more to life as it's something to look beyond all those obstacles and hardships.
Interesting theory as usual but I have to say I really do hope that by the end of the series, Oscar remains...well, himself. It just seems too cruel to have this young man that we watch learn and grow with the rest of the cast suddenly just...fade away so to speak. His 'death' wouldn't come as a shock, it wouldn't occur due to something he's done it just would happen with time and like all deaths via time its the saddest one of all. Sure, maybe Oscar wouldn't die in the regular sense but Ozma/Ozpins soul would eventually take the dominant seat in the body, at least thats what it seems to be with the past reincarnations?
Either way, the fact that Long Memory can store time is interesting in of itself, and the concept of it storing a 'persons' time even more so... but it does beg the question of if the stolen time *has* to come from the person holding the cane. It'd seem broken beyond repair if you could just like, point it at someone and be like 'bam, you're an old man now haha'.
I've had this theory that the previous incarnation doesn't take over, but rather the current incarnation slowly becomes more like him. He can only incarnate like-minded individuals aka people like him. Not the same, but similar. The reincarnation basically being a case of passing on his memories and quest.
@@sonowbrand7824 Hmmm that could be true too I suppose. It'd be nice if we could learn more about the past reincarnations but it doesn't seem like 'necessary' information so I doubt we ever will.
5:33
Literally one of the many reasons why you're my favorite CZcamsr
or literally everything you do
I wonder how ozpin was like before ozma
I believe Ozpin must of been some farmer guy Like Oscar
I mean Ozma's first Reincarnation seemed to be a Villager so yeah
A simple soul
It all makes more sense now, and if the way things go, Osma could move on, and Oscar can live a life so to speak
I like Ozpin, poor guy
If Oscar has multiple souls in his body, does that mean he has multiple semblances? Cause a semblance is tied to a person’s soul and there are at least two distinct ones inside of Oscar at the moment.
No, because Ozma didn't have a Semblance, he had magic. The gods gave Semblances to the humans and faunus in the newer Remnant so I think that only Oscar would be the one with the semblance
very good video :)
i do definitely think there's a lot more to Ozpin's apparent death at beacon, and also to add to the examples pointing to this in your video, there's the scene at Haven academy when Cinder finds out that Oscar is reincarnated Ozpin, and she seems surprised and maybe confused/worried?
And to think the story that Blake was reading at the start of RWBY season 1 has become quite prophetic.
Oh wow, you brought up some very interesting and good points that I didn't think of. Well done with this.
I wouldn't say that it is his aura barrier due to the color. Ozma when he was using magic the color of it was green.
Its amazing that you are still able to think of good theories after all of this time good job
i love watching your videos because its funny how you put more thought into rwby than the people who are writing it, thats a good thing btw, keep it up!
Wow, so Cinder is even more incompetent than expected! I hope they clear up the "time" thing tho, is somewhat ambiguous.
Expect nothing from Cinder and she will never disappoint you
I wonder if when Ozpin does truly die, will be in his previous life body or if he'll be in his true body. His first life, Ozma. 🤔
This question always bother me, shouldn't Ozpin be able to open the vaults too, since the maidens power came from him. If it takes the power of a maiden to open a vault and the power came from Ozma/Ozpin, wouldn't he be the key
I KNOW I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE.
HE created the vaults with HIS magic so even if he gave the majority of his magic to the maidens, shouldn't the doors still recognize his magic?
*Ozpin:* this guy knows too much he's gonna give our secret away
By this point Oz haven't we seen what secrets do? plus anyone can put 2 and 2 together.
*Ozpin:* I know but I like the mystery, how did he do that? Wow professor Ozpin is so cool and wise, I love it.
You think that's how people talk about you? ok then.
*Ozpin:* what do you mean ok then? Oscar I'm talking to you.
One thing to point out: Oscar says "That power... these memories..." in one breath, which seems to me to indicate that whatever that barrier shield shell thing might be, it's definitely being described as something unique to Ozpin/Ozma/Oz in general, being bundled together with the inherited memories, making it more likely a previous Oz' Semblance or simply the inherited magic rather than just an advanced aura technique that Oscar could conceivably learn on his own.
OH MY GOD, OSCAR'S THE NEXT ONE FOR ALL SUCCESSOR
ozpin's cane can restore aura to an earlier time (an earlier time optimally being when that aura was FULL). forget which interview the writers explained this but its out there somewheres.
Honestly I believe this makes a lot of sense Great theories I love them all and the matches and all of your videos You've came so far and A Role model to me Thanks a lot 👍🏽
my idea with the fall is that when ozpin realized the body was in mortal danger he took over to protect it.. but once he landed he let oscar have control again, as its not his body..
I don't think ozpin has the ability to keep his and oscar's souls fully separated for longer.
As for why i said this. At the end vol 7, after oscar landed he said something among the lines.
This power, these memories.
(Indicating that the two souls somewhat fused together.)
Maybe due to the long memory giving oscar some of oz's time? Or because of the amount of time. That oz has been stuck in oscar's head.
(Despite oz sending him self into the back and locking himself in there. Back at vol 6.)
And yes, that was a. What oscar really thinks reference.
That power is pretty strong, so my guess is that he will use it a few more times and then once a villain notices what he had done they will break it or steal it and then Oscar will start to use Ozmas scepter but will have to go and retrieve it wherever it may be. However I also suspect the cane being made with the scepters green rock and that's where the canes power comes from, so if that is the case then I do not believe he will lose the cane permanently but still possible that he'll lose it but that would suck to handicap the worst fighter on the team just as he was getting better.
The cane was probably outfitted with tech that could contain Oz’s magic and when Oscar threw up the hamster ball his magic restored itself temporary
Devin Tucker lmao hamster ball😭😂
Phoenix....your the best reactions and Theory analyzer ever. I enjoy your theories..
Thank you for acknowledging my post. No one ever lets me know if they like or dislike beside others that makes comments..lol
@Phoenix/Night I can see Ozpin not in Oscars head but still in his form as we saw him in volumes 1-3 I just KNOW IT. Also hope u can do Robin vs Winter in the tournament (as a joke to win over qrow 😉)
Ozma’s reincarnation is like the avatar cycle with the exception that the previous incarnation is aware inside the new incarnation/host and the cane being the equivalent of the avatar state in granting the new host access to the excess time/aura/power (power of the past lives like in avatar). Plus the boys eyes glow too.
Rose Garden is one step closer to being true...HELL YEAH!!! :D
I think that Ozpin is going to make a Return along Oscar will have his Semblance which we need to figure out along with Ozpin's Semblance and from understanding through the Atlas Arc,I think that Oscar is in the Scout Class cause most Scouts often use their Size to Battle if that's what I'm understanding correctly.
I was so attentie of the theory, then once he talked about rose garden I Died on the inside and was even more hype!
One thing we know for sure, Ozpin is powerful as fuck.
But being more serious, i really like your idea. I wonder if "storing time" thing can do more than just recharge/extend aura, like using past semblances, maybe?
In any case, here just waiting for Ozpin to pull a avatar state or something like that.
Just rewatched the Cinder vs Ozpin fight as a refresher, and noticed that the fight music prominently showcases a leitmotif the fandom has named "Such Arrogance" (due to it never having a lyricized song to name it, and due to a line Cinder says to Ozpin in Heroes and Monsters when it plays. Now that you've brought up Ozpin potentially sacrificing himself in the fight against Cinder, I'm wondering if it's instead Cinder that's the arrogant one, for assuming she killed Ozpin, for assuming everything would go her way (notably not long before Ruby nukes her with the Silver Eyes).
Or possibly both, Oz for thinking he could keep his secrets and Salem's forces (but especially Cinder) for thinking too little of humanity's hope and faith in each other.
I wonder why ironwood shot Oscar
Maybe he was trying to stop him or was it because he lied to him
Or ironwood was part of something darker
In my opinion, Ironwood at this point found out that the enemy was unkilable. On top of that desaster, Salem is arriving in Atlas, the winter maiden is who knows where, and the city's defenses have been breached. Now most people in charge would have a mental breakdown, but Ironwood is doing everything he can to keep it together. He won't admit that he's afraid, and he absolutely refuses to back down while deep down, he knows that this is a fight he cannot win. But he also said that he was willing to sacrifice anything to defeat Salem, and this includes his "friends", soldiers, and citizens. Oscar was trying to convince Ironwood to save the city of Mantle, but Ironwood was only going to protect the relic. There are two main reasons why Ironwood shot Oscar:
1) Because Oscar was getting in Ironwood's way of saving Atlas, and himself.
2) Because Ironwood doesn't want to admit fear, but because he is overtaken by it he is turned into a dictator, ready to sacrifice literally thousands of innocent lives just to buy time for Salem's defeat. In his mind, Oscar was just another reincarnation of Ozpin, but Oz wasn't helping by staying silent. Ironwood knew about Ozpin reincarnating, so Ironwood figured it didn't matter much.
Besides, imagine being faced with certain doom trying desperately to keep it together, but making all of the wrong choices in the process. Then having a little kid come and tell you that your being a bit aggressive and that you should stay calm and do the right thing. If we're talking about Ironwood, then yeah. It makes perfect sense why he would ease his mind by shooting a child off a cliff.
And for the record, I don't support this aggressive form of therapy. Ironwood better have a solid redemption arc ahead, or I will never forgive him.😤😐😐😐😒😒
@@channelofthelost5136 Ironwood is doomed next volume, he put himself between the main protagonists and the main antagonist and there is no survival for him, the Grimm queen broke him and now hes only got survival on his mind. Of course team rwby made loads of mistakes last volume, but I'm not the type of person to whitewash ironwood of his cowardice and stupidity too.
This video is very good u are my favorite CZcamsr keep up the good work :|
Damn it this entire time I thought that green barrier was Oscar's semblance
Edit: 5:29 THEY'RE GONNA GROW TWO HEADS
It can't be a Semblance because those require Aura to be powered. We saw Oscar's Aura break (very obviously!) mere seconds before when Ironwood shot him.
aura barrier makes perfect sense, and i'd wager his aura is generally incredibly strong as ozpin so i'd believe that in cinder's fight that's what that was there as well. i always like finding out the different skills people can have with aura that arent semblences, makes for a lot more interesting expressions of skill. particularly things like aura sense and blade beams, extended shields and such. i imagine jaune is gonna be able to do something similar to this since vine mentioned to him to consider extending his aura.
Ff
I was watching this in the background so idk if you did say it or not
But Salem was shocked how quickly Oz came back
So the idea that cinder didn't kill him makes sense
if he went out on his own terms then maybe he could come back quicker
My theory to build off yours is that Oz sacrifices his life in a body in exchange the ability to store his time lost for his next body. For his original body his semblances probably just saved up his aura for later use or something
I have to wonder how much information on Ozpin is contained in the book The Man With Two Souls. Blake refers to this book in Volume 1, mentioning that each soul is vying for control over the body. Right now, Oscar and Ozpin are in something of a symbiotic relationship, but time will tell of Ozpin will start to take more control or will be able to finally rest and Oscar becomes his own person again, or whether there is a way to seperate the two into different bodies?
before oscar fell I feel that ozpin may have been watching almost as if he were an alternate personality within oscar waiting for the right moment to take control as you have noticed throughout the seasons where oscar struggled for control of himself when ozpin took control and oscar would tell ozpin that he was remaining in charge and in control. that is how i see this whole thing and in the end i think those two souls will remain separate. it might be for the best bc after all we did witness oscar asking ruby if he was going to be another one of Ozpin's lives. It's clear to me oscar doesn't want to be taken over by Ozpin's soul thus allowing his spirit full control like he had in his previous lives.
Well your right but i will also add another thing in the last ep of vol. 7 he said "these memories" it also means that oscar now has ozpins memories or he already knows ozpins past the one's that the relic haven't shown in ruby's question so
Personally I think that it was Ozpin who took control when Oscar was falling than gave control back to Oscar when he was safe, seeing as he used the same barrier in V3 and that he knew exactly what to do
It looks to me like he finally unlocked his magic in Oscar
opposite effect, actually---by using the magic, they merge quicker.
Was I the only one expecting time to start rewinding when Oscar started doing his stuff?
I think the difference between the barriers made in Volume 7 and Volume 3 is more of just how much Aura was put into it. Which probably means the V3 one was enhanced by magic, but I think they were the same principle, just executed slightly different. Which may be because of the fact that their souls haven't merged yet, so Oscar can't use all of Ozma's power at once. But also, he wouldn't need a barrier of the same scale as the one Ozpin made in V3.
So basically, I agree with you. Lol.
If you listen to the music in that scene, it has Oscar's leitmotif, then when Ozpin wakes him up, HIS leitmotif plays, but only for a moment, before Oscar blinks back to consciousness and his music resumes. I think that's a neat way of hinting it's Oscar in control. Oz merely woke him up and left again.
unrelated but I really hope the next time we see The Long Memory, Ozpin points it out to Oscar and calls it "your cane."
I also wondered if Oscar own simblance was activated in this time..as it has shown many time a simblances will awaken during extreme situations. So far there has not been a exact depiction of Oscars abilities which was mentioned while training RWBY he does posses a simblance. Just a theory but what if Ozpin chose Oscar because the similarity of simblance..Like Aura projection aka "shielding" and used Oscar own simblance with the staff power to save them..All just theory at this time but just a observation
If Aspen really did and his life prematurely, essentially, I think the other students will be really miffed at him for not trying to hold back Cinder for longer. Wearing her down and maybe giving Pyhrra a chance.
I definitely think some of this Theory is very very accurate
Two soul means aura backup if another one broken and Phoenix is that mean aura barrier is not semblance
Ouch. My head.
Storing Time...
That causes a crapload of causality problems.
Though it has been confirmed in an official rwby commentary by the writers that the long memory can indeed store time. Pretty OP if you ask me but it sort of make sense that magic is capable of things like that. Like when everytime Jinn appears, she stops time.
This is the earliest I’ve ever been
I thought that was just Oscar unlocking his semblance...
Makes sense overall for me, very strong evidences, just one detail im certain Ozpin took control for a moment during the fall to wake his senses but then Oscar took over the rest, because if im not mistaken didnt Oz told him he was the one who saved ''both of us''? but correct me if im wrong. A funny topic, if Ruby and Oscar get into a relationship and have kids i wonder how odd will it be for Oz to know all about the sex, im sure will be pretty embarassing for both of the kids. Lastly liked that you didnt push the video to be too long, the shorter the better and more concise and clear for me at least.
I'm so confused now....please RT, explain the whole Ozma/Ozpin/Oscar storyline!!!!!!!!!
Interesting theory.
Spitballing here but maybe long memory slowly builds up a charge over time and Ozpin sacrificed his life to put a serious amount of charge onto it.
We must remember that Jin told Ozpin he couldn't defeat Salem, but the gods say to Salem that she will remain on the planet till she learns the error of her ways which means that while defeating her is in theory impossible if you show her the error of her ways then she will likely die on the spot
1:36 I FUCKING KNEW IT! *THIS PROVES OSCAR'S SEMBLANCE IS TIME RELATED IF THE WEAPON HAVE TIME ABILITIES SO DOES OSCAR!* 🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲
Ozpin's weapon storing time???
BRAVELY SECOND!!!
So let me get this straight, two souls and two auras in the same body. Does this mean that Oscar/Ozpin will have two semblances or one that's a hybrid between what Oscar would've eventually developed (if he chose to start huntsman training before meeting team RWBY) and what semblance Ozpin had prior to his death?
I always wondered what Oscar's semblance is. We know Ozpin's but could each incarnation have their own abilities modified somehow?
You know this sorta relates to the theory as to what Oscar's semblance, and how it will affect Ozpin and "The Long Memory". As we know Soul = semblance & aura so we sorta gotta speculate the Oscar would have two auras and two semblances but that's simple stuff. What a semblance can be is...vague and as we've seen comes as a response to a situation or a core part of a character's personality. Ren's was unlocked to survive while Yang's is a symbol of her rage though who knows maybe semblances can affect a person's personality. Backing up though Oscar's semblance may come in Volume 8 when the situation is dire and no manner of weapon or ordinary Semblance will work so they fall back on either using the relic or using Ozpin's magic. This lead's to Oscar's semblance being Aura-Magic conversion. Simply put Magic would converted into aura and aura can be turned into magic. With this he could fully utilize his cane's full power with less of a limit, make team RWBY maidens given enough time to rest & using Jaune's semblance, etc. This would also pique Salem's interest as she could now also restore her limited magic and she already wants Ozpin off of the board. On this note it could potentially be magic enhancement where it greatly improves spell efficiency i.e. 5 "Mana points" is equal to 100, similar to Jaune's semblance.
What makes you think salems magic is limited????, There no suggestion of that
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While most of it makes sense, I have a problem with the part where you said that Oscar tapped into Ozpin's Magic (or aura) via the Long Memory Cane. One of the last lines of Ozpin's, after he landed on the ground, was "Actually, you saved us", implying that it was Oscar's Semblance that broke their fall and not Ozpin or his magic/aura
Janica Denise Torculas Oscar couldn’t have used a semblance because Semblances are connected to aura and Oscar had no aura.
I wonder if Jaune will someday be able to do this Aura Bubble
Do u think its possible if Jaune can amplify Oscar's aura, oscar could aura bubble the whole atlas :0
Maybe the aura barrier is a semblance and Oscar aura color is olive
Now you only strengthen my belief that we will have Ozpin's aura\soul transportet from Oscar in to a robothick body made by Pietro...
Seems logical. I like it
HOLD UP I just realized this
Ok so cinder didn’t kill ozpin and I think I can prove it...
So let’s say Cinder didn’t know about ozpin Having the ability to reincarnate
At the fall of haven I remember her saying “Ozpins here!”
She acted really surprised and thought that OZPIN was physically here
Of course he was here but in Oscars body but that’s beyond the point...
So when cinder was very hesitant in saying she DID kill Oz because she didn’t know he could reincarnate :O
This is the best RWBY theory.
I hope she will be officially true.
Well the gears turn similar to harbinger
wait can oscar stack his aura with ozpins so his body is more protected with what would be a super charged aura
I was so annoyed with the main characters frustration with Oz, do they not realize the magnitude of the man. How did their entire schooling and everything else go out the window suddenly. Eh besides the fact the school got rekt.
Yeah they really booed the man who man who fought his immortal ex long enough for them to get time to live cuz he didn't tell them she was immortal and didn't have a plan to defeat her which makes his at least at least 7 lives of Cold War-esque containment of Salem even more legendary.
Yeah I don't understand the hate he gets from most of them except for Qrow. Ozpin did not know what he was getting himself into when he began reincarnating so immediately he was stuck with the greatest burden of all and was just trying to keep the relics safe by what he believed were the proper means since he cannot stop her then he has to play defense and keep away till they find a way to win. Also he rarely lied and just kept things from them for the most part which is fair since they're just a bunch of teenagers, again except for Qrow, Qrow was extremely loyal and dedicated to Ozpin so Oz probably should have kept him more informed especially after all these years. Then one of his main lieutenants in his war that he put in charge of training generations of huntsmen to come and guard the item he's been protecting for centuries or millennia betrays him they don't understand why he's so secretive, I mean after that he is more justified in still being secretive to Qrow.
It's pretty obvious that Salem is a sensitive subject for ozpin, I believe whatever remains of ozma is still in love with Salem. Sending huntman into battle against an immortal without telling them about Salem is a no no, that's my one beef with OZ
I’m guessing that they’re upset because they asked Ozpin if that was everything they needed to know (no more secrets about Salem) twice only to find out from Jinn that he didn’t tell them that Salem can’t be killed. So they were probably feeling betrayed because he probably should have mentioned that when he asked if they wanted to do this, but I’m just guessing here. Ps. I love Ozpin and feel bad for him, just want him to get a happy ending
@@kawaiicamybee Oz will get a happy ending and so will Salem, calling it now.
in my opinion... the dark green aura simply becomes lighter green because the aura is slowly fading after oscar was shot.
I was a little weirded out, because of how Ozpin lost to the power he gave, but now watching this, it kind of makes sense because I don’t think ozpin is that weak and he maybe could’ve sacrificed himself🧐 (I’m trying to sound smart but I barely know what I’m talking about)
If anyone from the DID community sees this, I defer to your judgment, but having watched a lot of content from DissociaDID among other channels, this conversation made me think of a certain concept: Co-Con, or co-consciousness.
Perhaps this was a moment where the person acting was not exclusively Ozpin or Oscar, but a middle state between the two. Ozpin gives Oscar the credit for saving them, but Oscar believes that Ozpin saved him instead.
Come one come on all place your bets ladies and gentlemen try to guess what Oscars semblance is Time manipulation or wish manipulation, and let's see if Oscar and Ruby will end up together at the end of the series without ozma tagging along.
this video blow up my mind.
I think you're right on the money guild master.
I also think that Ozpin is lying about his magic. I don't think it's as finite as he claims, but rather is in short supply as giving other people magic reduces the maximum amount of magic a person has, but using general magic probably doesn't.
CRACKPOT THEORY: Ozpin giving the Branwens the power to turn into birds probably means that they have some magic, so that could mean that if Qrow IS Ruby's real dad then it might explain why her semblance is so weird.
So essentially Ozpin's cane uses [KING CRIMSON]'s ability but instead of erasing time it consumes it and turns it into power or magic, right?
Can Ozpin store enough time to bring someone else back to life? Not someone like Pyrrha but someone who was just killed in like the last 30 seconds. Now that'd be magical.
Useful cane i say
I'm curious if Oz actually has an aura, and subsequently, a semblance. Did they have auras when Ozma was around? And all of his hosts have a "Like soul". A soul is an aura. So if Ozma had no aura, it's likely that none of his predecessors have auras/semblances either
I don't think so. We just didn't get the chance to see Ozma's reincarnations semblance
All Ozpin successors are part of the "new mankind", the one that has semblance. Ozma is part of the first, has no semblance but magic. Also, Ozpin and Oscar are different person that have different bodies and so did all of Ozma's incarnations. "Like minded souls" implies different souls that are alike, not the same soul
Also, Oscar and Ozpin have different aura colors even tho they're green
Plus, back in v5ch4, they talk about semblance. Ruby compares Oscar to Jaune, since Jaune hadn't a semblance yet. In that conversation Ozpin didn't interrupted a thing to say Oscar couldn't have a semblance
Oscar: has own aura color + part of new mankind = probably has his own semblance
Also, Ozpin said he's running out of magic. Oscar used the magic in his cane when he was falling. He used A LOT of magic trying to stop Salem too. That's a combo. He'll have no magic soon. I think as it was to Jaune to unlock his semblance (in a hurry/dangerous situation), so will Oscar.