9 Of The Internet's Most Shameful Job Postings - Signs Of A Toxic Workplace
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- 9 Of The Internet's Most Shameful Job Postings. I'm back with another addition to the world's most shameful and ridiculous job requirements employers make you jump through to get a job interview. These are signs of a bad employer or toxic workplace, so pay attention.
Be sure to check out my other videos in the series.
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1:38 - Poverty accounting
3:44 - Handbook from hell
6:25 - On-time is the new late
8:05 - Test run, please?
10:50 - Pinky promise to pay you later
15:46 - World's largest range
20:07 - Snow removal pro
21:51 - Smartest intern
24:21 - What's in your fridge
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Many of these are illegal by the way. Federally illegal, not just state....put em in fed prison, because I am fed up with them....
Zuul and the Keymaster
I remember one job application asking for 6 years experience in a software package that had only been released 2 years prior. Truth is, the people writing these ads know nothing about the jobs. They just copy, paste and churn them out to meet a quota.
Recently I wrote to the Citizens Advice Bureau in the UK to ask them what one of their jobs practically entailed. This was because the job description was so vague that I couldn't figure out what they were asking to do. They waited until 1 day after the job closed for applications then replied with a copy and paste of the job description. No effort was made.
Also, 100% of the data entry jobs in the UK are scams just trying to: 1) Get you to work for free, 2) steal your money, 3) human trafficking, 4), embroil you in a pyramid scheme, and 5) steal your identity. So now I don't even risk applying for these jobs.
My 2 biggest pet peeves are:
1. Uploading my resume and still having to input everything into an online application that will take 3 hours to fill out. This is, of course, after spending hours working on my resume.
2. Entry level jobs requiring 5+ years of experience.
Yes, both of those for me.
I was contacted by a recruiter and I agreed to an interview. During the interview process, the HR manager brought me an old fashioned job application to fill out. It angered me since I had already filled out their online application. The wanted me go back 20 years and remember every job that I had ever worked.
How about if that same job started the job post with three paragraphs about how they are a fortune 500 company and how great they are...yet include ZERO information about the job location...work hours or Rate of Pay! Then you'd have a security officer job opening. Armed or unarmed.
The having to refill out the application after already having all the things in your resume is a huge pet pieve of mine as well
OMG, I HATE #1 -- I have literally walked out of interviews where they have asked me to email my resume, but when I got there they wanted me to fill out an application
Loving these! I have seen so many job postings requiring a bachelor's degree but they're only paying $12 an hour. If you can't afford to pay more than McDonalds, you can't afford to require a degree.
I work in construction trades. I recently saw a job posting for a high cost-of-living city municipal maintenance position that wanted applicants have be licensed in electrical, plumbing, and carpentry. They were paying $25 an hour. Houses here are $1.5million. Each one of those licenses commands close to $100,000 each minimum, more if the work is specialized. 25-fucking-dollars-an-hour for all three.
Is this in Puerto Rico? Because it sounds just like my country.
Get used to it. College is worthless now. Most of your degrees are worthless. The proof is your jobs listing at 12 a hour.
Nothing has changed since I graduated from college in 09 during a recession 😅
I have an engineering degree and am a business systems analyst. I’ve been contacted by multiple companies wanting me to relocate to expensive cities with no relocation assistance and trying to pay me 10k less than i make now. Whatever BSA’s are accepting these offers are ruining the market. I’m transitioning to a data analyst for higher pay.
My favorite, the classic "Entry Level Position: Must have 2-5 years experience (mandatory)."
Yep, no one wants to be your first job. They all want to reap for an investment in your growth that other people made. Its truly a shame, makes getting into the market much more difficult, for no actual reason.
You think that's bad??? Imagine a tech company requiring you to have 5+ years of experience in a technology that has only existed for 2 years.
I once told an interviewer that their method of interviewing was horrible and would never result in a decent candidate wanting to work for them.
The company went out of business about six months later.
Any full time job requiring a 4-year degree and paying under 40K in 2023 is TRASH!
You mistyped 75k. Just a heads up.
@@chublez absolutely.
@@chublez😂
Ewwww absolutely NOT
B-b-but some degrees are trash.
This is what gets me- this is the other side of the “no one wants to work anymore” thing. People want to work, they just don’t want to work for minimum wage after getting a degree and two years of experience! They don’t want to have to pay for their own training! And they shouldn’t have to!!! The job market is ridiculous these days!!!
That expression is an incomplete sentence. Every time I hear it I finish it :“No one works wants to work anymore“, more like, no one wants to work for (YOU) anymore.
Companies ALWAYS say they have trouble finding people...but never look or adapt their recruitment processes
100% right
Yes something the older generation doesn't understand and judges us for.
I am Gen X an 80-90's kid.
If what they offer does not entice the employees they need, they will raise the offer or go out of business. There is a feedback mechanism here, and in a tight labor market it should not take too long.
I walked out of an interview when a questionnaire was put in front of me with one of the questions asking what my bedtime was. Before I even got to that, the HR lady (forgot her exact meaningless title) was quizzing me on what my Zodiac sign was. Until employers suffer with a shortage of applicants, they can largely get away with wasting applicant's time with foolishness like this.
What did you put, 8pm unless mummy is reading me a bedtime story?
Zodiac sign? What on earth were they gonna do with that information? ""LEOS DO NOT NEED TO APPLY""
When have employers ever experienced a shortage of candidates? Yes I know some niche sectors sometimes experience shortages but usually that's quickly resolved
I'm surprised they didn't ask for your birth date, place and exact time in order to obtain a natal chart.
Was the person who was hiring J-Lo?
I actually have often thought that the reason companies don't like to put the salary range in the ad is that they don't want the people who ALREADY work for them to know what the pay is. They're afraid one of their lower-paid people will look at the ad and realize their own worth.
As an employer, I've had employees angry that we were hiring for a position that started higher than everyone else's position. The fact that the position required schooling and years of experience doesn't matter. I was given the cold shoulder treatment for weeks.
@@AmyMable
As an employer, I bet you find some of the attitudes in this comment thread somewhat dismaying.
There is little understanding of the other side of the paycheck, and they often cannot distinguish between a greedy owner and the need to stay in business.
@@zephsmith3499I would stay with a company if they were open about why they are being paid higher. I have literally worked for a company that didn't give the veteran employee raises, but was hiring everyone at the same work level a dollar more. This was a big corporation too.
I would work for a little less at first for a good company or boss, if I am rewarded later for it. For instance if the company starts doing better than I should get a raise. Etc
Most businesses see employees as leaches and we're just out to take their money from them, and God forbid you have to pay someone.
Not to mention, stop putting yes men in management positions. They suck and they make everything else suck.
@@Bulmachan224
It makes sense that you would be unhappy with that employer. I hope you can find a better one, or perhaps eventually go into business yourself and treat your own employees as they wish to be treated.
It is astounding how unprofessional many employers are these days
The one at 8:06 takes the gold. Demanding candidates come in to "get the feel" for the job is just corporate speak for "We want two hours of unpaid work from you."
Then they reject the guy for the temerity of asking if the two hours are paid. I would have taken that text exchange to the local labor board.
A couple years ago I had an on site interview for a tech position in a non tech company/office. I explained things, showed what they needed, how I could accomplish that for them, and so on. In the middle of the interview the interviewer came over to me, and wanted to tell me what he thought of the interview. At that point he farted in my face and said that's what he thought. I then got an offer, which I turned down for what should be obvious reasons.
@@Seattle-2017 same here
@@phonyalias7574 give him a bad review on google. Explain the interviewer farted
@@phonyalias7574 You didn't SUE that man?!?!? Into oblivion???
Many years ago, as a young medical technologist, I interviewed at a prestigious hospital in Boston. The interviewer kept me waiting over 30 minutes while he was on what was obviously a personal phone call. When we spoke, he asked a lot of questions unrelated to the job for which I was applying, and expressed dismay that I had no experience in those unrelated jobs. When we were done, he told me that the hiring manager had taken a personal day, and to please schedule an appointment with her for the next week.
They were dumbfounded when I called later that day to withdraw my application.
That was very unprofessional and disorganised. I’ve heard of job interviews that people walked out on
I once lived near Boston. A young med tech interviewed for position with one hospital to be asked to return for a second, THIRD, and FOURTH interview 🤯.
By the time #4 rolled around he had already found a job. This hospital has very expensive parking charges as well, so I suspect they encouraged public transit use.
Lately it seems openings in this field have more unreasonable requirements. Degree & licensure that worked out just fine at one time now require clinical experience as well.
?!?!?!?!?!?! How is he supposed to get experience when no one will give him a job? If anyone starts crying online or anywhere else about a shortage of med tech, nursing or other health care personnel shortages, I may have to take some deep breaths and count backwards to avoid exploding 🤯. There are just some managers and fellow professionals who help create their own shortages.
@@lmusima3275Having interviewed at a small occupational health clinic at one time, AFTER it was no longer legal to ask about any marriage or family plans, the doctor kept asking did I have any plans for marriage or children 🤔
@@lmusima3275I walked out of one when they wanted me to buy a bunch of my own equipment and not compensate me for it properly.😊
@@janetmiller2980do managers know that websites like Glassdoor exist? It's like they're operating like it's the 1990s...
I once took an unpaid day off work for an interview, and drove 70+ miles.
Turned out to be an "informal chat to see if we might want to interview you if a position opens".
Nobody was happy about the situation by the time I left.
Thats fucked up
I found myself in between jobs and tried to sign up with a temp agency. I made an assessment appointment and showed up about 10 minutes early. The receptionist rolled her eyes at me, went to a door and said, "someone's grandmother is here". Then I was asked to leave. My phone had been on silent, but saw that once back in my car...it was ringing. It was an employee of the temp agency wondering if I'd forgotten my appt. I said that I had just been in there and was asked to leave. She literally said, "you have to show up yourself, you can't send another person". I assured her that I was indeed the person that showed up, and no one else. She hung up on me. Yeah, I was in my fifties....but I didn't present as just some random old woman wandering in. I didn't want to even try to work with people like that.
wow thats so rude
It was a blessing. You dodged a bullet!
🤯🤯🤯
Incredibly childish and rude.
In my 50s too and been treated rudely once they see my age in person, even though I dressed very nice and professional. There is definitely some ageism going on.
You’ve got to pay for training?! The gag is that a lot of jobs are doing a terrible job at training employees.
That's an old move that's unfortunately making a comeback :( I still remember a lot of postings in the 90's that required you to pay a "processing fee" of $100-300 just to interview with them -- no guarantee of a job, just a seat at the interview table that day. o.O
If they train at all
@@olencone4005 for me thats a scam and a red flag.
Better to use that money to fill up the car with gas and buy food in the grocerystore.
@@olencone4005oh HELL NO. Talk about DYSTOPIAN!!!
Might be more common that you think. My first job was with a technology company that manufactured some specialized equipment. They offered their customers training on this equipment for ~$2K/student. Employees could also be asked to take this training if it would be used on the job. There was no cost to employees, with the caveat that should you leave within 6 months of the training, you would owe a pro-rated fraction of the imputed training cost.
18:31: They want to hire the guy who produces $890,000 work of work/services, and pay him $150,000, so that in a year, the CEO can buy another $740,000 yacht.
No lies detected
based maxxed slave owner
The people from “other parties” will get very angry at you for questioning this and call you an entitled baby because they also say it isn’t any of your business. “If you don’t let them have the yacht they want they will just find another way to get it”. Where I live certain kinds of people say this (not all of course).
Yachts are a human right!
Of course, you only qualify for human rights when you make 7 figures.
I had a salon offer my a position and wanted me to sign a contract stating I would owe them money if I left before 7 years. Every year I stayed the amount I owed would decrease. Here’s the thing,the amount I would owe was left blank! She said she wouldn’t fill it in or even tell me what I would owe until after I signed it! I just got up and left.
So basically she wanted to put upon you with a maxed out credit card and wouldn't tell you the amount on said maxed out card. Lmao some people are real pieces of s***
That's illegal
I would've said that would make this contract invalid and no court would side with her and I wouldn't sign either but I'd tell her even if I wanted to sign, she'd be giving me a copy and thus leaving it blank will cause a judge to err on my, the employees side. This is how vague illegal contracts work
@jenica1388 that's nuts! A 7 y contract, she'd better pay me at an increased rate lol
Just enter the word "zero" in the blank.
The most beautiful moment in Manhood is realizing your value, and being fully willing to walk away from the table if you don’t like what you see.
And being *_able_* to do so.
And that applies to women too.
Several years ago, I came across a job application that asked me to write a poem...for an IT Project Manager position. Their reasoning (according to the app) was that they wanted to know what makes you stand out. I can't remember exactly how I worded it, but I rescinded the application using Haiku.
Thank you for your time,
my application is gone,
this place is crazy.
That is awesome.
@@MagnumCarta I applaud your haiku!👏
That is fantastic.
Poetic justice.
I saw a job posting last week for a “Glass Clarification Engineer” role. If you’re wondering what that is, it’s literally just being a contracted minimum wage window cleaner for a window cleaning company with minimal actual benefits. I was laughing so hard when I saw the name of the role and what it actually was.
Everybody is an engineer these days smh
Senior "I'm Not Afraid of Heights" Engineer is what the job title should be for the guys who go up the side of skyscrapers to clean the windows.
In France the person who brooms the floor is a ‘surface technician’ 😂
Dear lord, here it's infact illegal to use the title engineer unless you have an engineering degree or work in a position that usually requires one.
Cleaning windows, cars (valeting as well) are one of the few jobs that people with no qualifications or prospects can do. So, if they see such a job (or learn about it) the poor soul thinks they have made it big - imagine their surprise lol. It takes all sorts to make the world go round lol. Have a good day reader.
Some of those job listings w/crazy requirements are set up for somebody's kid or friend. They just put them out there so they can say they're hiring, but they already know who they're going to hire.
My last boss tried to bully me into accepting a job change while not agreeing to one point that I wouldn’t budge on. He tried the “I interviewed a great candidate”; played me off against others. I told him each time I was happy that he found someone and that I’d be happy to help them and fully support them. Finally he did give me everything I wanted and quoted a salary much higher than I expected. I know my worth. And I made him look very good while I was in that role. Like flowers and chocolate good. Don’t settle for less than you are worth, assuming you truly are knowledgeable in that field.
I had an interview with Colonial Penn Life Insurance earlier this year. It was for their sales department. The interviewer stated that I wouldn't make anything for the first 45 days and I'd have to pay for the licensing exams. They offered to let me come in the next day to see what the job is like. I said yes but didn't show up because I will not pay for the privilege of working there.
Primerica Insurance was similar, you pay *them* for "processing" your application and your license. When an employer asks you, the applicant/employee, to pay THEM especially on these commission based sales/MLM jobs, RUN. I consider the amount they kept as a "stupid fee" on myself for even giving them money in the first place. I sat with the higher manager of that location for an hour explaining why I was quitting within a day of being hired, it was an awful experience. Stay away from MLMs.
MLM
I have a crappy call center job that pays near minimum wage and even THEY paid for my license! How cheap some of these companies are is crazy! 😂
I’m a graphic designer and I’ve been asked to put together ads for 2 or 3 companies last year, during the interview process, and was never hired. These projects were good designs and took at least 3 to 4 hours each. The last company that did this, I asked them to compensate me and never did I hear back from them. Boggles my mind.
This is a form of scamming
Marketing and reorg plans. Scam. Just say no to free work.
They were just looking for free work. They had no intention of ever hiring you
If it were me I'd record doing it then tell them to pay me. If they wouldn't there's gotta be a lawyer out there that would take it up
Never do spec work.
"Do you have a permanent HR department?" is the first question I ask these days
My biggest outrage lately happened with a state job. It was kind of the opposite situation. My resume was a perfect fit for the job description and I had 20 years of experience in the skills they were seeking. If anything I had much more than they were asking for. The recruiter sent me a rejection letter saying that I did not have the qualifications to get an interview. It was baffling. Not even the courtesy of a conversation. I felt like I had been swiped on Tinder for not being 6 feet tall. So insulting...
Were you still looking to work for the State after? I heard people saying that’s almost impossible. I got discouraged.
Here's a reality check, recruiters are mostly incompetent people. The only job that they are qualified for is being a janitor. I actually looked through the resume that were accepted once because those were potentially gonna be under my supervision. When I looked at the contents of the resume, they seemed odd, so I asked them to show me the ones that were rejected. Obviously the recruiters looked at me like I've gone mad but regardless they show the rejected ones anyway. As I was going through each of those resume, I was dumbfounded. A lot of the rejected ones looked much more appealing because I know what a resume really look like when someone has years of experience behind them in my field. I got really furious and gave the recruiters an earful.
The boss of the company obviously heard my commotion and called me in, after explaining to him, he smiled and told me that they are gonna start the recruitment process again from scratch with the existing resumes only this time, I will be keeping my eye on the recruiters as they are doing their job.
Hey! Janitorial service is an important and necessary job.
I had a similar thing happen - asked around - the owners son was already in the job but to get a government contract they had to produce evidence that their recruitment was "competitive based"....
Are you White? That's probably why
lmao imagine you take a picture of a completely empty fridge and have a caption "this is why I'm applying to your job, I have no food and I'm hungry"
👏
Actually, "fridge" is not a word; it's lazy slang. I would tell that to them!
Or use stock photos. 🤣
I had a coworker who got a job in the 80s in Melbourne, after saying he wants the job because he has three kids to feed.
What bothers me the most is having super high requirements for entry level type work with entry level pay. Some of these employers are really out of touch with reality. I work in IT and have seen this a lot lately. Mininum wage in California is 15.50/hr and I've found IT jobs (requires B.S., certifications, years of experience) that pay less than $20/hr. That's bonkers.
Sadly I don’t think they are out of touch. People do apply for and accept those positions, albeit as a stop gap and therefore with a high rate of turnover, nonetheless, they do get people in those roles at those rates. It makes you think uni was a massive waste of time and money.
I had an entry level business analyst role pop up requiring 5 years of experience.
@@WadmanPtf😂
@@GalileoFigar0 Or perhaps minimum wage is a populist trick that doesn't help anyone in the end...like the data shows.
CA min wage is irresponsibly high.
The third one reminds me of one of my old managers. I arrived to work on day at 2 minutes til scheduled shift. He got on me for almost being late. I looked at the clock, which still wasn't at the scheduled time yet and responded with "Is 'almost late' what we call 'on time' now?"
Too many (who compliant about on time as late) want the worker to start before time and work before shift time unpaid.
What bothers me in a job posting is both low salary, and skills commensurate with, "wanted, God." It often is a list of skills the previous person had, and the hiring person simply listed them down. For some reason they do not connect the fact that the employee who left was severely underpaid.
I would never apply nor work for any company that uses the word commensurate.
My nephew had worked for a pool company. Because he gave less than 30 days notice they had all these cockamamie charges and they lowered his wages down to minimum wage for the last month. At the end he owed them about $400. Then a few months later this moron employer sued him for breach of contract saying he took a job at a competitor violating a non-compete. But he was working at Olive garden. Good thing we have a lawyer friend who took care of the whole thing. I do get some solace in that it cost him a few thousand dollars to sue my nephew though.
As a lawyer myself I just… wtf runs through peoples’ minds I just… can’t.
A non-compete clause... at a pool company. I hope your nephew got his legal costs awarded by the judge, because that is some buuuuuuuuulllshiiiiiiiiiit.
Noncompete clauses like this one are nearly impossible to enforce, especially since he went to a completely different field. Sore losers in life as well as court.
@@nancyenkelmann7801 that is what our lawyer friend said also.
@@schuylergeery-zink1923 💯
When they want 10 years experience with a software that's only been around for a year.
My favorite is when they want 5 years experience and a Masters for...an internship. Double points if the job posting brags about we "don't hold hands".
Haven't seen anything that ridiculous for an internship, but I have seen entry level jobs require 8-10 years and a master's. Absolutely outlandish requirements at times
@@mattr2626 I'm military and we have a program called Skillbridge where the DOD essentially "loans" you out to a company for up to the final six months of your contract so you can valuable hard skills when you return to the civilian world; they are essentially internships and while the company doesn't pay you, ylu still receive pay from the DOD. A lot of the times companies take the service member in once they separate from the military.
A few of these companies still say they want work experience. An interviewer even flat out said they "don't hold hands here." This especially pisses me off because not only does that completely defeat the purpose of the program, it puts those in combat roles at a severe disadvantage compared to those in tech roles like me.
I have come across several similar job postings. A few years ago a company wanted a candidate with at least 8 years of advanced Flutter experience and at that time Flutter had only been created four years earlier. Many job postings wanting 8-10 years experience and a Masters Degree and several certifications and then offering $30K-$32K a year. Disgraceful.
Sounds like what you're seeing are H1B adverts. The company posts the ads hoping no one applies so they can tell the government there's a labor shortage because they didn't receive any responses to the ads. Then they bring in employees from overseas for considerably less than a US citizen.
@@techheaven8132I should start applying to these jobs and then if they do remote interviews record them for the laugh factor.
The last time I applied for a job, I had left the work force for a while (at the top of my game,) but had continued my education, sat on the board of directors for an engineering firm who had accounts at major defense companies, and worked for well known charitable organizations. The company offered me literally $10/hr. That was way less than the last job I’d had 20 years prior. When I objected, they made a big deal of raising it to $12/hour and I could come work for an afternoon to see if I was good enough. That was a hard no. 😮 instead I bought a farm and am now a farmer. Love it!
As someone diligently looking for a job, these are really helpful. Not just informational, but a bit of a comedic release as well. Job seeking can be a lonely endeavor.
I interviewed for a low paying law internship once. At the time, I had an engineering degree, 6 years of engineering work experience, and one year of law school under my belt. The interviewer asked if I had an MBA. I could not believe the requirements for a crappy low paid internship.
Now I've read everything... an MBA for a law internship? BTW, why were you applying for that, having experience as an engineer? Did you want to switch careers?
American living and working in Germany. You might be surprised how often prospective employers ask people to try working for free, they call it a 'hospitation.' I believe in theory it's meant to give a person a peek into the work environment and meet staff but I think many places want you to actually start working on the spot. I went to one last week and the person told me I had been too 'passive' in my work during the three hours I was there. Also, for another position I arrived twenty minutes early to an interview, ready to wait until the stated time and they chastized me for being too punctual and told me to go outside and go for a walk. HAHA :)
The receptionist probably just had a bunch of farts she needed to sneak out before your appointment.
"Chastised me for being too punctual"
Tell me you were applying for a role with Deutsche Bahn without telling me you were applying for a role with Deutsche Bahn.
If someone told me to go for a walk I would obey. At a brisk pace and never once looking back.
I hope you kept right on walking!
Big red flag I have found and most jobs include this poison pill: "Other tasks as assigned." Which means they can ask you to do literally anything, completely unrelated to the job position. And if you balk or refuse, goodbye any promotions, raises and quite possibly the job itself. Which I have known in a few places to be used to prevent giving earned raises to long term employees. Got a accountant who is due a nice raise? Assign them to work the loading dock for two weeks, or clean toilets, or serve cocktails on a Saturday night at the manager's cook out....
Goes to show there's no shortage of insane employers.
I’ve seen so many postings for “Unicorn” positions. 😂 What that tells me is that either the person who left was underpaid, doing so many things. Or, they’re trying to see if a sucker comes along and accepts such position.
Or they already have someone in mind but have to / think they have to post the position for some reason.
Unicorn skills for regular pay😂
@@jeffmartin5419 Many Federal Government jobs, and some Federal Contractor jobs are like this. They have someone specific in mind but are required to "post" the position, and have actual applicants first. Then they go hire whom they wanted in the first place.
HCA does this. They have a policy of posting all positions available, even though they already have someone in mind. What a waste of time. The hospital I worked for got bought out by them. We were told "You're not losing your job. You just have to reapply and interview for whatever position you want". Applied for multiple work from home positions I was qualified for, never heard back. That was time I could've spent looking elsewhere!
@@jeffmartin5419 That one applies to government positions in many states. They have to have 3 candidates to interview before they can legally hire the person they really want to hire. So they toss out a job posting and see if anyone nibbles. That said, they usually make the requirements modest if they are trying to get bodies in for an interview, since many people won't even apply if they don't meet the unicorn requirements.
I had an "interview" with a "marketing" company that was essentially me riding along all day with one of their door to door salesman. The icing on the cake was my car was towed from their parking lot!
So why was your car towed
Employers are being absolutely ridiculous these days. On my 20th year anniversary with the company I was laid off. I hear that they hired 3 people to replace me. They were foreigners on work permits. I'm sure they are paying much more. Employers only look at individual salaries without a clue of how much they are actually spending to get the job done 😅
No those workers are exploited. Salary starts lower, and sometimes is subsidized like in California. It’s terrible.
Yep, with your salary, they pay minimum to those three and get three more people to do more work in less time.
@@vaderladyl more like less work and more time not to mention all the mistakes they make having no experience 🙃. They can have them. I'm retired enjoying it. I've never been happier. They did me a favor 🙏
@@bighoss9705 That is so true.
Or it's more likely, they hired illegals, paid less than minimum wage.
I’m an automotive technician. I looked at a college to be a fleet mechanic. The listing said bachelors preferred but 5-10 years experience in the field is acceptable. They were offering about 70% what a dealer would pay me….and anyone in the automotive field knows how underpaid we are by them.
One thing that baffles me is when you look up an entry level position requiring you to have a Bachelor's degree. You think you meet the requirements until you read that the company requires you to have at least 2 years of experience! I think that makes a good topic to discuss for another video
The baffling and non-sensical education/experience requirements are due to decades of litigation regarding "discriminatory" upon the part of employers. Basically, once upon a time employers would often make hires and promotions based on proven/tested ability but eventually they started getting sued for "discrimination". So employers can now hide behind extensive education/experience requirements to "prove" why they did or didnt hire someone.
I interviewed for a job like the one with all the fees deducted out of your check if you quit right away. They wanted me to pay out of pocket for a drug test and get reimbursed if I’m still there in six weeks. They were basically telling me the company sucks and they have a lot of people quitting right away
That’s a hard nope 😂
The moment I read those fees I'd walk out and refuse to pay
I've been through every one of these. One interviewer complained that I knew nothing about the company, when there was zero info online. She followed me out as I was leaving, chewing me out from behind. One interviewer questioned me about my dating habits. One asked me to do two weeks of unpaid training, and I said no. A school principal let some kids sit on the interview, and then allowed THEM to interview me, which I refused. 10:25, with the project interview, I've had many times, and I always say no.
I applied at Walmart via the Internet. I spent an hour doing the application and answering 70 questions as part of the process. I got a rejection e-mail in 10 minutes! At 11 PM, meaning that no one actually looked at my application nor my answers to the stupid questions. Their computer system did the automatic rejection, probably because I gave honest answers. (I've heard about that happening!)
I applied to a Dollar General once upon a loooong time ago. They had a 200 question questionnaire that was mandatory for the application. It was insane.
Walmart was literally my worst interview ever lol. The interviewer showed up *50* minutes late, then shows me around the area where I'd be working (usually the tour comes _after_ the interview in my experience), then asks me *1* question for the interview. I'm guessing he didn't like my answer or something because he said "that's all the questions I have for you today"? That was such a horrible experience that I had no choice but to write a bad review on glassdoor. 🤣
These companies are terrible with requesting you to do real work during the interview process. I knew one girl who actually completed a case study and they did not hire her, But she was hired a few months later and found that they used her idea she completed in the interview process. Just shady!
I wouldn't want to work for someone who criticizes you for showing up at the exact time, it's ridiculous. I don't understand how some people have the nerves to ask graduates to work under minimum wage. This clip is great.
Especially since they know the person lives nearby. If I'm interviewing a few miles from home, I know exactly how long it will take to get there, so there is no need for a safety margin.
I guess it didn’t occur to them that they could just tell employees that they’re expected to arrive 15 minutes before the start of their shift.
@@northrose4344 So every day they work (or wait) for 15 minutes without pay? On time is on time.
@@northrose4344 - I worked at a place that was the opposite. We couldn't punch in more than 10 minutes before the shift. Anyone getting there too early had to wait before punching the time clock.
There’s a toy company in my state that pulls the “come in & ‘test’ work for us to see if you’re a good fit” shenanigans. I rebuffed the offer, but a few friends did it with the predictable results (they did actual work and never got a offer). Just ridiculous! Great video, btw!
Weird that they're advertising that they're committing wage theft.
I was an intern at a major publisher. My performance in the internship was praised. I was invited to apply for a full time editorial assistant position. Years went by and I had to work for high paying administrative positions. Once I could afford a lower salary, I started applying to the same publisher for an entry level position and was told I did not have the right qualifications. I had the exact qualifications, I had done every single task posted on their career page. And I had exceeded expectations. I suspected my age (over 40) was the issue but they - of course - didn’t say so. Because they never told me why my qualifications were not the right fit when they seemed to be exactly resonant, I kept applying for other similar entry level editorial jobs and have received dozens of robot rejections.
Glad that person asked whether they would get paid. Once the employer figured out they were not a door mat and then insulted the applicant. This used to sometimes happen to my sister who is a graphic designer. The marketing manager job posting was illegal.
You might be shocked at how many chefs are required to work a trial. For free. In 30+ years in the industry, I've never done so and simply walked out.
They probably have lots of chefs on trial
My son is a chef and started a new job recently after working a trial shift, I’m sure he’s had to do that for every position he’s held.
This is good info for people just getting out of school, just to know that there are some terrible offers out there that they shouldn't even consider. As far as job listings, I offer these:
1) tech job where the description is a string of HR weasel words and nothing about what you'd actually be doing
2) excessive educational requirements, like wanting a PhD for a line-support position
3) any job with lots of responsibility but no authority, like coordinating the activities of various groups to install production tooling on a schedule, but nobody actually reports to you.
I have too many stories about interviews. I'd advise applicants to prepare and be polite, but just know that there are some dreadful people conducting interviews, so don't beat yourself up if it doesn't go well. Sometimes you're better off.
“Test days” are actually quite common in my line of work (baker) I actually have all my interviews like this, have not needed a CV for 6 years and had multiple jobs. It is ALWAYS payed though, no matter if they take you or not, that should not even be a question.
My favorite was when a job post required 5+ years experience in a programming language that had only existed for 2 years. Even the creator of the language didn't qualify! I also saw a computer job that required experience in 14 VERY specific languages and applications which no one could ever actually have simultaneously. The job also paid about 1/3rd of what any amount of that experience would earn elsewhere. I checked that posting board periodically and 2 years later it was still listed. I suspect that they had someone in that position and didn't really want to replace them, so they posted impossible requirements.
God forbid that guy decides to leave...
Being in Colorado I love the new pay range disclosure law. I've not seen massive range post like that. But I've had some companies still downright refuse to give the range, which well, if they can't follow labor laws right off the back, I just look else where. I had a recruiter once get all bent up about it which after third time them pushing for interview I just had to down right tell them I can't trust them since they already breaking the law. The range is one thing, but really reflects the culture of the company if they comply or not to the law.
Also Colorado: pay ranges from $15-$35 DOE, degree required 😂
I have seen huge pay ranges for several programming jobs lately. I alway assume the lowest number is the valid salary.
I want to see the low end number so I can afford cheap employers. Won't even bother applying.
It’s insane to me that they think we’re stupid and wont walk away if they’re being scummy whores. Maybe in the early aughts but none of us care anymore. We watched all of them lay off employees to avoid paying pension. Why would they think we trust them.
I see a lot of job postings by recruiters (usually Indian). They usually don't have pay ranges. Out of state/out of country recruiters don't know the law. Even in-state recruiters don't know or ignore the law.
I saw a posting by an Indian recruiter for a remote tech position paying $15/hr. I'm pretty sure he was planning on getting Indian candidates who are willing to work for such a low range. He knew Americans won't work for that.
When I DO see a hiring range, I ALLWAYS ask for the top of the range.
This knowledge should be shared at the end of middle school and throughout highschool for people to become aware of these red flag vultures.
Just yesterday a sales company responded to my inquiry with a link to a zoom call explaining their vending machine sales opportunity.
They say it's super super easy. All you do is read their script and people just buy buy buy, pie in the sky, $500+ per day commissions - oh and by the way, you have to pay $30 cash up front every week for your "leads."
Scam!!
Second one is an easy Department of Labor report. Shuts them up real fast and gets them a nice fine, too!
We need more of these! The first one for the Accountant is probably looking for people in Latin America (posted by "Hire Latam LLC") where $1400 a month is probably a decent wage. I used to hire tech support analysts in Costa Rica and the wage was $1400-$1700 based on experience (+ benefits) and it was a middle class wage.
I want to thank you 🙏🏻 was having some regrets about walking away from some very shady hiring practices by a national franchise. No more. Refuse to shop there as well. So disappointed.
I'm currently in the job search, and have found quite a few doozies with regards to job postings that have major experience/compensation discrepancies. The most glaring of these was a posting for a Medical Business Office Assistant that required 10 years of experience yet paid $17/hour.
I made that amount frying chicken @ Kroger.
@@debbest8546 Indeed. I give you respect for doing that, as while I have experience working on computers, I'm pretty sure my getting anywhere near a deep fryer would end up with me in the emergency room.
My favorite thing was doing an interview and getting denied for a position based on requirements that were never posted under the job requirements.
Knowing your value when applying for a job is sooo important. The whole process can feel so intimidating that people forget that employers need employees, too. Great video.
Some employers in my area are well known for paying below market. Recruiters keep contacting me about a position at a large manufacturing company and I always tell the recruiters that company is having a hard time filling positions because they are paying below market rate.
@@picklerix6162 Classic. Hopefully they learn their lesson and start valuing new hires more.
I would say, regarding the restaurant with the massive fees if you quit, that it's more likely it's always been a bad place to work than it's had a plethora of crappy employees. If you're a good place to work, you won't have a high turn-over. Also, I'm sure you know why there's secrecy in pay ranges: they want to pay their candidates the bare minimum, while working them as hard as possible for it.
I once went for an interview with a small law firm as a secretary and the interviewing lawyer said that everyone shortlisted would be required to work for a day. I asked if I was going to be paid and they went very quiet.....They then mentioned a very low salary and I said no thanks. I also went for an interview with another firm, a large London firm, who informed me at the interview that I was expected to be available at short notice seven days a week. I said no to that one as well.
6:25 omg, that reminded me of one of the very first jobs I applied to after college in the early 90's... it was a mom & pop printshop a few blocks away from where I lived that was hiring an entry level Graphic Designer. I showed up early, went through the interview, had a solid portfolio from my freelance work, and they were really impressed with me. Then the husband was looking over my resume as they showed me around the shop and saw my address -- I remember him sounding a bit annoyed when he asked "You live just down the street from here?" When I acknowledged that I did, he shook his head and told me they had a lot of problems with someone a FEW YEARS earlier who lived nearby but was always late -- so they were only looking for non-local talent.
It was kind of an ooooooooooooo-kaaaaaayyyyy moment, but to make sure it never happened again I just got a Post Office box and started using that instead of my street address :P
Sounds like they weren't really in need of your skills. If he was that petty, you wouldn't be able to make him happy anyway.
That thing for a local convenience shop would makes sense to avoid thiefs and favoristisme, but for a print shop just because someone else was late is a non-sense.
Its illegal for them to refuse to hire you because of where you live.
@@christophercrawford777 It's illegal for an employer to ask you to bring in your own personal software and artwork and install it on all the computers in the office too, but I've had one do that. It's illegal for an employer to harass and physically threaten you, but I've had one do that. It's illegal for an employer to shortchange your paycheck because they didn't feel like spending any money that week, but I've had one do that too. I don't think a lot of them really care about what's illegal. :(
24:21 The request for a photo of the inside of your fridge is most likely either an anti-bot mechanism or a way to indirectly get the sort of information that companies shouldn’t ask about (e.g., race/ethnicity, whether the applicant has children, etc.).
Take a photo of your actual fridge, then photoshop in a dead body.
whether you have any medications that need to be kept under refrigeration, how much beer you drink...
@@billd66 Probably damned if you damned if you don't. No alcohol? Tee total weirdo. Too much alcohol? (Probably not even a lot just more than a 6 pack) Drunkard. Oat milk? Woke communist Nazi. Empty fridge? Desperate loser poor person who must be lazy and bad at all jobs because only the lazy are poor.
@@Seattle-2017 I think I'd take a picture of a fridge empty, save a single head of lettuce. On the middle shelf. Unwrapped.
Let them figure it out.
I’d just send a pic of the fridge from Ghostbusters - with the demon dog Zuul standing in it XD
It certainly raised a chuckle when you covered the picture of a fridge requirement. One can tell a lot about another person by looking in their fridge. Sadly, that only works if the owner thereof is unaware of the "inspection." Any motivated person that did apply for the position, would have more than likely cleaned their fridge before snapping a pic; thus, providing a false insight into their character. The poster of this employment opportunity did not think this through to the end. :)
Reading between the lines. Poverty accounting: there's some things they want to get away with - competent accountants need not apply. Fines if you leave: it sucks so much to work there that half the people quit in the first week. The "you were on time" letter: you are very well qualified for the job and they don't like your age/race/gender/face. Work for free: looking for a doormat.
Thank-you for exposing this type of practice by employers nowadays 🤦♀️ it is absolutely ridiculous how these employers are treating people that are in search/need of a job. Horrible!!!
Getting a degree was the biggest waste of time and money and biggest regret of my life
Getting a degree and still not able to be paid more than someone without one. I chose not to finish college because I ran out of money and refused to take on loans. I just chose to work and worked my way up to a level paying as good as if not more then if I had that IT degree.
I understand your frustration. Believe me. The stigma of NOT having a degree is the problem. I'm a welder and make 42.00 an hour and trained at a technical school for 18 months, no debt. Consider the skilled trades.
Yeah skilled trades has tons of opportunity. I have a bachelors degree in HVAC engineering and after 5 years designing HVAC systems I quit to go be a service tech for HVAC instead. We get about 80k a year at my company now. I was making 50-60k in engineering. I now also never have meetings, and I don’t have to put in 70 hour weeks anymore.
I don't regret my bachelor's degree, but the ROI on it was not great. The only good thing it did was teach me how to write fairly well. My master's degree was worth it, but frankly I could have taught myself a lot of the stuff I learned from both degrees.
I think you may have approached education wrongly. It should be simply to learn about things you are interested in
I once saw a job listing on a very popular jobs search site here in Australia. Wanted 14-15 year old at garden center, taking care of and growing plants, paying minimum wage (junior, non adult, wages are very low and at 14 is like half that of adult's minimum wage, work responsibility minimal, they are not allowed to do certain things unsupervised or be left in charge etc.), full time 8am-5pm monday to friday. It is literally illegal for children 16 or under to be out of school here.
I once worked for a company who, after I had been there for almost a year, had all the employees sign a mandatory release saying that since the company had chosen to change payroll companies, all employees had to pay HR $600. When I finally quit the job because of medical issues, I did not get my last check because I still owed the company that amount.
Wtf?
That is illegal.
The point of making the requirements crazy is so that they can say they can’t fill the position so they need to use a H1B visa worker
Wrong. Hiring foreign employees is more paperwork and you still have to pay them a fair wage. Most of the foreign hires aren't stupid. They aren't going to work a job for less than their non-foreign counter parts.
I had a really good interview with a very small IT company, and the guy interviewing me was one of the owners and we genuinely seemed to be getting along pretty well. At some point, he said they like candidates to work for half a day so both sides could see if it was a good fit. He told me I would be fully compensated for my work. Although I know many people take sick days or days off to interview, the guy knew I was fully employed. And even though I didn't like my current company and didn't owe them much, this struck me a little sketchy to ask this- almost like it was a trap (and I don't believe it was, but still).
My first thought was- how much are either of us really going to know about each other working for 4 hours together? My second thought was- would you want to hire someone who would call in sick to go work with another company for a day? And would I want to work for a company that would ask me to do that? I told him very politely, that I was a bit uncomfortable with it from an ethics stand point, but made sure not to sound holier than thou about it. Things kind of dried up contact wise after that, they probably found someone else who wasn't working or was ok with it and hired them instead. No hate, but it was just weird.
I doubt they hired them!
I really do not understand employers paranoia on recruiting people. Virtually every single employment law favours the employer. If you make a mistake with your recruitment you can let the person go gracefully and humanely
@@skyblazeeterno I was recently asked to do the same thing, and I agree it doesn't look good when you are taking off a day to work somewhere else to supposedly get the job.
A friend of mine has a successful software company and he said the reason they are doing this is so that you can't say you were discriminated against for the job - they even paid you to work for the day and is a smokescreen - they are not really hiring, but want your input and ideas so beware!
One of my relatives applied for a job in a daycare. They wanted her to come into work for a couple days without pay. She declined the offer.
Daycares are the worst! Super high turnover because no one wants to change other people's kids' diapers all day while trying to foster 'a place of learning.' Sorry can't- got up to my elbows in dirty diapers right now.
@@fuzzywuzzy5749 The early childcare industry in the US is such a mess, it's such a vital job but it pays so low, and the managers of the daycare centers don't get paid much either, and it's not affordable for the vast majority of people 😟
That accounting job, man. When McDonald's is offering starting positions at nearly double the pay of a two year college, two year experience required job, well you know something ain't right then.
These are probably also companies that say “wE cAn’T fInD eMpLoYeEs!”.
Or "Nobody wants to work" 😒
I worked and quit one of those companies, I quit after six months and the owner violating harassment laws. Several months later there was max exodus of employees. Owner and his wife complain," nobody wants to work". Next time I hear them complain again, they have a boat moored near mine, I will tell them, "people want to work, they just don't want to work for You!" "And frankly can't afford to work for you".
Yeah, that first one hit close to home. Bachelor's degree in the field, worked about two years as accountant. First job, less than minimum hourly wage, cut hours, so he could do that legally... And took subsidy from the government, cause I've had hard time getting into the field. Thank god, I didn't have student loans.
This was awesome! I'd love more of these. Put these bad employers on blast!!!
I was interviewed by Webb Fontaine before and they gave me a homework to create a full mini Business Requirement Document to be done in 3 days! It felt scammy so I did not do it! I felt like they wanted me to do a piece of actual work for their own use and Im not even going to be hired!
Must applaud you for shedding light on the absurdities that people may encounter and the red flags to avoid. The first one seemed like a grift to ensnare young or vulnerable people with the deliberate intent of chasing them off within a month to then charge them😢
Good grief, this reminds me of the many "entry level" job postings I've been trying to apply for. Been getting declined on grounds of "not enough experience". Those postings can be flagged for false advertising.
Great video, very glad it popped up in my feed. Sadly I can relate ... a few months ago, a recruiting agency contacted me about a role they'd been contracted by the company to fill; it was a full-time position that someone else in the company currently had, who was moving to another role in said company. They liked me and said they would pay me to do a trial run for a few weeks, before making a decision on hiring me full-time. I thought OK, this job's mine to lose. Fast-forward to almost the end of the trial run, when I discovered that I wasn't the ONLY candidate they had doing a trial run for that same role. Didn't get the job, and I'm glad. At least I got paid, but still.
There was a job here in Canada that was filled a couple years ago that had a starting pay of 250k with a free college education that you were paid to take. The min required education was to complete high school and pass a drug test. It was unfilled for 40 plus years. The first high school graduate that community had applied for it and was immediately hired. 4 years later after graduating he was handed a cheque for over a million dollars and started work with over 1000 employees under him.
I have to wonder where in Canada it took them 4 decades to find someone with a HS diploma that hasn't gotten high in the last few months. 250k has always been pretty good money in
Canada for a new hire.
@@the_omg3242 Remote native town that has no road or water access. The structure was built in the 1960's and never used. No one met the minimum requirements to have the plant operate. No one would move there even for that sort of money. Its the same for other remote jobs. My aunt worked as a nurse practitioner running a small emergency room for the last 10 years of her career in the far north. She had a doctor in Ontario at a hospital that overseed her work and took full responsibility for her medical decisions. She made enough money in those 10 years to comfortably live the rest of her life how ever she wanted to.
@@the_omg3242 Ingine country up north. Gov't bends over backwards for them.
Illinois just passed something about having to disclose wages in a job posting. I think it'll be great because I personally won't even waste my time applying to anything that I don't have an idea of how much I'll be paid, because it's usually some crappy poverty wage.
I had an "interview" with a dog kennel place, and I basically did 2-3 hours of work in cleaning the kennels for them, *for free* and they never contacted me again. I thought I did a good job. I was so mad realizing they got hours of work for free with no intent to hire me, and I won't be falling for THAT again.
Thank you for all the information. As a career assessment specialist, your videos hold a lot of value.
The 'trial day' is a scam in the UK with young people desperate for weekend or a first job. I know of one hotel that does this regularly - they advertise and get several 'prospective employees' for the bar and restaurant, pretty much every time they have a big wedding. They even insist that they provide their own uniform. They never employ anyone from those days. I've seen it happen at other restaurants (a whole week and you don't even get your own tips for one of them, that luckily has gone bust since). A car wash business that asked for 'potential Saturday employees' (ie. teens wanting to make a little money out of school) to work the day on a bank holiday - again, nobody employed from it but they covered the work on the busiest day of their year without paying anyone extra. Didn't even offer them a free tea or coffee during the day. Parents, if your child gets offered an unpaid 'job trial' don't push them to go.
😂 I work for a company where the concept of salary ranges is a challenge. It’s always been case-by-case. When we first hit the wage transparency laws, I looked at how our competitors were handling posting jobs. One had posted that the position would pay between $20k and $200k. This was a large reputable company.
Report those listing. States that require posting wages expect reasonable ranges.
They should really penalize large ranges like that. Like maybe 1% of the difference between what the upper end is and what the employee actually ends up making is deducted as a one time tax they cannot make the employee reimburse.
So if they actually pay $30k, they should need to shell out $1700 to the government for the privilege of such an extreme underrating. This $1700 will be earmarked for labor law compliance enforcement.
If that was a sales job and purely commission-based then _maybe_ I could understand that, but otherwise wtf?
I worked in dental offices for 8 years and there was always a “working interview” which would be after your first interview where you sit with the team and observe to make sure you like how they work. It was completely normal however several employers abused this. I forced a doctor to pay me for two days of a “working interview” where is actually did work where the rest of the team and office manager ignored me.
I'd be tempted to find a picture of a fridge filled with various human body parts, some in tupperware containers labeled with various days of the week. If they're going to ask for something ridiculous, they're going to get super ridiculous.
I learned that lots of companies need to be more lenient about internships. I have a associates in marketing, and I graduate with a bachelors in HR management in 7 months . I applied for a HR Marketing internship and they sent me an email telling me that I didn’t fit what they are looking for.
On the handbook from hell, the department of labor would love to have a word. The only thing that might be allowed is the uniform cost, only if the uniform could be used for other activities (if it's company branded, very unique or wouldn't be worn by a reasonable person, not going to happen). Training is another fun one - if it's job specific or employer mandated, they can't require payment.
I lately got the test run at one interview. The client basically asked me approach for building an entire app took all the points and changed the job requirements for it and made me ineligible. I felt absolutely ridiculous considering I had to go onsite for this interview
Send them an invoice.
@@romany8125 I wish I could. I was sent through a third party recruiter who were terrible. Never ever going onsite for such things. Companies nowadays try to take advantage of candidates and are using such interviews as means to gather information
Sounds like that was their business model. Get free work/steal ideas from the applicants, under the guise of a job opening.
@@Seattle-2017sounds like the kind of business I'd like to troll in real life with my camera crew
Loving the videos! Thank you.
I remember back in the old days you can just go in a boutique and drop off a hard copy resume versus applying for a job online. Those were the easier days of life.
The one about arriving on time is an equity issue. The company has no idea how the person got there or what else they had going on (like childcare, etc). Not hiring because they showed up on time feels really scummy.
Not to mention this ridiculous concept that you're late if you're on time. On the job, if I'm required to be there, I am entitled to compensation.
Even better is when you get there early and the manager/interviewer is 20 minutes late and customers are waiting at the door asking for your help!!
The first job posting a person in Chicago can earn $15+ at Whole Foods, Target, Kohls, and Aldi plus you get an employee discount.
My small town Aldi pays that much, and the cost of living is less here. I'm surprised that they don't pay more in a city like Chicago.
You always have to be careful and take reviews (glassdoor, etc) to heart. The 2 biggest closet red flag employers ive ever worked for would have to be T-Mobile and Charter (spectrum) theyre absolutely predatory and manipulative in their sales and sales leadership roles.
Im really happy i was given the opportunity to get away from that