Cloudflare Account Executive Records Herself Being Laid Off (2024)
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Earlier this week, a TikTok user with the username Brittanypeachh posted a 9 minute video of herself receiving the news that she was being laid off from her Account Executive role at Cloudflare.
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For those who have been recently laid off (including myself); Remember that your job status has nothing to do with your self worth or value. FYI - Most people believe that HR is there to support employees but what most don't know or understand is that HR is there to protect the interest of the company. Hope everyone becomes even more successful in their next role!
This hits home for me as I was just recently laid off from a place I was at for over 5 years. I gave a lot to my former employee and it was a kick in the stomach for them to call me up out of the blue and tell me "Your services are no longer needed". I'm now on anti-depressants while I look for a new position.
@@nickwinn I hope you will find the better role and better workplace where you enjoy the most. Believe in god and god has best plan. We may not realize at this moment but sooner or later it make sense.
HR never existed until woman joined the work force, let that sink in….cry babies
@nickwinn hang in there. Go outside and get some sun…oddly enough it was a simple thing to do but fresh air and vitamin D from the sun heals your soul my friend. You got this!!
@@Niko132 angry at women much?
This is why your job should NEVER take priority over family. Stop giving up nights and weekends and take your vacation time. Be on the lookout for new and better opportunities and don’t feel even an ounce of guilt when you bail on your current company because no matter what they say or how you feel about them, they will do this to you if they need to.
I agree & disagree. Family should come first, but finances are a family matter. Success comes to those who do more than's required.
That’s very true, but I worked somewhere that it was seen as rude to leave at 5 on the dot, like you couldn’t wait to rush to leave with
@@lazur1 You sound like the ultimate responsibility/accountability wage slave baby boomer! Why should doing more than what’s required like giving up your nights or weekends come at a price of keeping your job? Because it’s the united states of murrica? The land of white boomers who believe one should bust ass to work to survive? You are stuck in the past. Wake the hell up. Work enslavement is coming to an end brother.
Amen to that.
Right. Stay and miss my bus.
One more example why you should never treat your workplace as your home and get emotionally attached it to;
Have a backup plan, do not depend on it and remember you’re a just a number to them when the time comes.
That sounds like victim blaming to me. A company has the choice not to act like a cunt.
Not all work areas
Yeah, especially in the US where there's no respect for employees. Glad I live in a country with job security and where workers are respected and treated in a dignified manner.
@@chronic2023 Right. And how much do people working her job make in other countries?🤣
@@JasonEdokpa More than they make in the US with better incentives and more productive work environment.
Got layed off recently. At the time, I was devastated, but it's turned out to be the best thing that could have happened.
But like- its TRAUMA . Oppression . Violence , even . The managers and statistics don't matter -- we young are capable of judging our performance ourselves , O K ?
Such trauma . Did she survive ? Does anyone know ? Has the national news been informed , or just the Internet ...? This is horrendous we are witnessing misogyny , patriarchy and we need to take to the STREETS . WHOS WITH ME .
I agree. Any time I got laid off, it sucked in the short term, but always led to something better in the long term.
from Cloudflare? please share your experience
Best thing that could have also happened is leaving the usa. Let all of the white people, baby boomers and their followers work around the clock and simp to corporatism. 😂
It usually is.
I witnessed multiple layoffs at companies I worked for. I knew it was a matter of time for my name to be on the list. So I quit and started my own business. Never looked back.
What do you do now? I need ideas 😩
Thank you for your comment and sharing your experience.
Smart guy.
@@Sassayyyyynow he’s firing people
Funniest line is at 7:50 "this is not the forum to explain why you were let go" LOLOL when would be the forum if not at her firing?
😂
well they knew the daft twat was going to go posting online seeking all the 'you go girls' 'yasss queen so brave' she could handle. So clearly HR knew THIS would be the forum for that.
Incredible!!! 😅😅😅
I think the proper forum would be "in court" probably,
There is no "forum". This was not a targeted layoff, she was not the only person let go. They laid off a bunch of people. The HR people do not know anything about the individuals or why they got tagged to be laid off. They are just delivering the bad news. Layoffs are never emotionally easy. When my company had layoffs they got swapped the HR people between Division A and Division B, so that there was no emotional connection between the new bearer and the news recipient.
I admire her courage and ability to articulate effectively her very strong points in this interview. I'm appalled that her manager wasn't the one to speak with her about this. How cleverly management avoids dealing with their employees directly so that they don't have to answer all of these good questions. The slimy and condescending way the interviewers deal with her questions absolutely sickens me.
I feel bad for her. Hopefully she will find a better job soon.
Her manager may have been in the dark about her being on the layoff list. I’m guessing that HR just needed to make up some reason which is why they didn’t provide her any reason.
Her manager was probably laid off too
Yeah she's really articulate. I don't think I could stand up for myself like that. Surely she will get a better job with such abilities and they don't know who they're losing
She's right: corporations at the end of summer overhire people.
Amazon, sales companies: they are preparing for the Christmas period when there is a massive boost in demand.
They keep them on until after the Christmas break.
They then fire most of them as from post-Christmas until Easter, demand and consumer spending drops.
They cover themselves legally by referring to "performance targets". But these targets are so over the top, they are unattainable for most people.
Moral of the story: don't work in sales or warehouses.
I don't understand why they wouldn't just say it's a seasonal job/contract and pay literally just a dollar more an hour or something. At least people would know what they're getting into and prepare for a new job in accordance with when their contract ends.
@@grasshopperweb If workers are under the illusion that if they work hard, they'll have a permanent job, these companies get much more productive and hard working employees.
If they told them "it's over in 2 months regardless of how well you perform", the employees would respond accordingly (not caring/ being less productive).
So it's essentially a mind trick: promise a prize to motivate them, without there ever being a prize.
That's absolutely false - Cloudstrike does not hire for "Christmas help," that's just a dumb statement. It's not seasonal work. She was fired purely based on the fact that SHE DIDN'T SELL ANYTHING. As a salesperson you're expected to, ya know, sell stuff - she admitted that she didn't close a single deal.
@@kwest317 Fake News. I see the Corporate propoganda is strong in this one.
I bet you're the type of person to actual enjoy the Walmart morning prep-talks and clapping...🤣
Just a week after Easter now.. I heard Amazon has already laid off hundreds of employees in cloud technology .. Damn you were right !!
She was on a 90 day ramp up. You don’t have a real quota during that time. You’re learning the products, the company, and likely introducing yourself to the BOB you just inherited. She started in August, ramp up ended October or November depending on when she started in August. THEN she had to deal with Thanksgiving and Christmas. Do any of y’all work in tech? Cloudflare is a cyber company. A lot of tech companies are NOT spending money those last two months. Their budget is GONE. They’re all getting ready for the holiday. I work in cyber, my department gets nearly 2 weeks off for Christmas. Her points are valid and she had every right to bring them up.
2 weeks off for Christmas? apparently she should've been working her butt off during that time
@@Wellston-ec7qv😂
@@Wellston-ec7qvI imagine you’re not on a commission sales job over the holidays…
It wasn’t a performance issue - she wasn’t a right fit. She made that clear in this video with comments like “Bullshit”. She’s unprofessional and her colleagues probably thought she was difficult. Move on
If some of her peers that she onboarded with closed deals during this period, there’s no excuse. This is sales. She closed nothing.
Good for her calling out the employer! Love the responses " I hear you....I feel you....blah blah blah - we will circle back to you blah blah blah "
Lest you forget that a company spends a boatload of money hiring someone... training for 2-4 weeks and then in this case 90 day ramp. How do you know she was just watching CZcams videos or had another job milking her time with this employer. Boo who. Time to wake up
the way they talk is pretentious and phoney
What do you expect some HR person to say there? These folks don't know anything about you. For an actual poor performing person that's been working in a company for a while it's different: they get a PiP and HR is involved and everything. However, in this scenario when it's large rounds of layoffs it's basically just "those are the folks that we cut" and then they're going into those calls, telling them the procedure, possible severance and formalities, done, next. They're not even remotely involved into making the call to terminate x people, neither choose who those people are.
I’m 38. I’m a millennial. Been through 4 layoffs. Avoided the bullet on three but go hit on the fourth. I am absolutely impressed by how Gen-z is doing something that millennials never did, and that is waking up! These organizations simply DO NOT CARE. I worked myself to the bone in an organization. Was THE top performer and in the end, got thrown right to the gutter. Keep fighting back!!!
“Top performers” don’t get laid off “4 times”, they usually lay you off when you suck at your job. I know that because I got laid off twice and they were right, I made mistakes, I learned from them and I improved. No company is under any obligation to finance your dreams.
@@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 Luckily I’ve only been laid off once in my 20 years of corporate experience, like I explained in my original post. The layoff was due to an acquisition, they gave me a fantastic severance with continuation of benefits and had nothing to do with performance. I found a new job in two weeks and was a great push to my career. Yes, top performers can be laid off and it happens all the time. It’s called politics. Regardless if you’re a top performer, if you don’t “fit in”, you’re in danger.
@@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 Top earners are usually in the first rounds of layoffs. I'm a Millennial and I've been laid off spontaneously 4 times. In 3 of the cases, the company went out of business after firing me for no reason, because they couldn't cope with my and other Pareto Principle people who left after me.
@@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 if you had any reading comprehension you'd know they said they avoided the first three but we're in a company and saw three layoffs before they got laid off. Lmao if you can't even understand the context you should probably sit down and shut up.
I think she's saying she avoided the cut for 3 rounds of layoffs but the 4 round included her. By the sounds of it, it was probably unavoidable departmental cuts.
@@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261
This exact thing happened to me 20 years ago, face to face in the HR director's office. I later put together that if they give any reason they are open to wrongful termination liability. In Massachusetts at least, no one gets "fired", you get laid off. They can say they don't have work for you and lay you off without supplying any supporting documentation. Their unemployment insurance rates go up but they see it as a less risky path.
In Massachusetts, you most certainly can get fired. My sister was fired from her job in 2023. When she went to collect unemployment the employer disputed it and she lost. She didn't get a dime from unemployment and she would have lost a discrimination lawsuit.
@@KayKay0314 the above example was from 20 years ago.
@@KayKay0314 I'm sorry to hear of your sister's predicament. If she was either fired or laid off in Massachusetts, she IS entitled to unemployment benefits. If the company is denying benefits their position is that she quit. If she did not quit I'd insist she speak with an employment attorney.
Being laid off was the best thing that has ever happened to my career. If I was still at that job, I wouldn’t be able to afford half of what I have now.
Can u give some story and feedback pls? I want to here inner sides.
Damn right, she should regard this as a learning experience, move on and improve her work. Yet she’s here complaining that momma’s speshul girl got fired… 😄
That’s besides the point. Being treated like trash for a company you busted our ass off for will affect people differently, and to some people their self worth will be diminished to nothing. Some people could bounce back within days, others could be years, if at all.
@@Justin-uc8sc People who get fired are not usually the type to “bust their asses off” working, they’re the more the type to “keep calm and wait to get paid”.
@@Justin-uc8sc Disagree. All of things you mentioned applied my situation. My self-worth was diminished, I had given everything to that company and they laid me off during COVID. It was a good lesson and I struggled trying to find a new job. But I trusted the process and the value of my skillset and bounced back. The only way to guarantee you won’t bounce back in these situations is if you don’t try, so respectfully, i’m not sure you would be a good person to give advice to people going through a layoff.
WOW, This woman has absolutely no idea what an "account executive" is. Basically it's a sales job, that's all. Supposedly her being the best in her team for that period of time and NOT CLOSING 1 DEAL makes the rest of her team sound like some real losers. You can see here WHY she has failed, trying to make excuses for your performance when your being fired is waaay too late to start gobbing off. Having made a lot of money in this field, from her actions, her speech and the blaming of everything but herself, it's no wonder she's being "let go".
This is exactly what Capital One does to its employees twice a year during its performance management process. So sorry for you girl.
Amazon does this too. I know someone who used to work there and the bottom performing 20% would be eliminated every year.
What's there to feel sorry about? She's a saleswoman who by her own unprompted confession made ==0 sales. She's so entitled that she cuts off the people firing her multiple times, making demands and accusations, blaming others for how she feels about her failures - as though she could boss and bully her way out of being fired.
She says that her manager never directly reprimanded her. The only way I can see that being true despite her being literally a 100% deadweight loss for the company is if her manager found her completely unmanageable. If she was the same way with him that she was on this call, and he never found it in him (whether because of his own weakness as a person, or due to fear of backlash from HR, or for whatever other reason) to set her straight.
@@OptimalOwlOkay random Troll Bot created 10 years ago who only has like 11 followers (who are probably troll bots grown on a farm like you)
Let me explain something to you : She doesn't owe people firing Jack shit. Jobs are only useful when they empower you. If they don't do that they are useless. And a job that is firing you is at the top of useless list.
She has every right to cut them off and call them out on her BS. She's also not blaming anyone. She mentioned that her performance is better than anyone else.
And that her own bosses have praised her for it. So she's asking why two random people she doesn't even know, are making decisions over the bosses she works with.
Because she has EVERY right to those answers. Because she's a human being and not a number on a piece of paper.
If they can't cut the BS and give her a straight answer, that says volumes about them not her. She defends herself very well. And clearly Troll Bot, that company hired someone to send sock puppet accounts like you to try and spin the narrative against her. It doesn't work.
@@OptimalOwl exactly right.
@@Cuban20
> "She has every right to cut them off and call them out on her BS."
Lovely Freudian slip.
> "She doesn't owe people firing Jack shit."
Not saying she does. I'm saying that it speaks volumes about her character that she thinks she can boss her way out of a firing, and that being bossy and entitled at these two mooks who have nothing to do with anything will make her look good.
> "If they can't cut the BS and give her a straight answer, that says volumes about them not her."
I think it speaks volumes about the culture at the company. They don't feel comfortable talking straight even to a deadweight loser on her way out who never once successfully did her job in months of trying. I think this is how these HR-PR-obssessed tech companies can end up with payrolls full of useless people.
> "And clearly Troll Bot, that company hired someone to send sock puppet accounts like you to try and spin the narrative against her. It doesn't work."
I had never heard of the ontological gaslight before. Here, let me try it:
You're a Greenlander native who posts on the Internet in-between clubbing seals and being crossdressed and CBT'd by his 175 boyfriends.
That's why you're whiteknighting for this occupationally challenged White lady. You wish you could have someone like her just once instead of being passed around the tribe. But it's much too late, because Uqthumuluq already stomped your simp bits to mush when you were 13.
Yeah, this happened to me late last year. They called a bunch of us new hires into a meeting room and let us all go. They did not even consider how much earth we had to move to make it work. At least they were honest with us, that it had nothing to do with our performance (we were sent weekly metrics), but more to do with revenues being lower than expected.
I'm pretty sure it had EVERYTHING to do with your performance. I don't know why ppl think that companies CARE about your feelings, your kindness to other coworkers or in this case your skills at "organizing your meetings"! The company is NOT your family and you are a number to them, if you are NOT generating some kind of value then OUT THE DOOR you go and bring in the next person to do it. You are 100% replaceable and you can sit there and say it had "nothing to do with performance" but if you were killing it and generating them revenue/value they would've kept you. Unless you're going the extra mile or you have a skill not many others have on your team they'll keep you around but again if you are not generating any kind of value/revenue you'll be dropped and that's life.
I think the problem in North America is we have too many lazy ppl who go to work and take it easy all the time. They're on sites they shouldn't be, they take long breaks, talk too much and don't get enough work done. I see far too many ppl (even where i work now) do maybe 3-5 tasks a week where I try to get 20 tasks done and I think that speaks for itself. I'm far more efficient with my time, I'm getting things done while they are taking it easy and kicking it back. I'm not promised tomorrow but at least I know I'm doing a lot more work than others and I hope that's enough to make it to the next day.
@@DamienMalakay nothing but behaviorist bullshit you spout.
@@DamienMalakay ya that's complete bull shit I've never been laid off but I've seen countless times where top sales people are laid off and they are directly contributing to profit margins so this whole bull shit speal you just went on is null and void because companies could care less about your contributions it's solely based on political factors and who executives like the most. It's all a popularity contest and if the company over hired they will lay you off whether you're contributing to profits or not.
@@303offroad that makes ZERO sense!! if I am a VP/Director and you're making me look good by making the company $ why the fuck would I fire you? unless you are causing issues left and right i'm gonna wanna keep you around. I think you are a salesperson and you are trying to justify it. I'm no salesperson but in the end you and some ppl take this way too personal, it's a business and they need to make $ and if they're not making money then start cutting ppl! if you started there 3-4 months ago you should probably know that you need to deliver something, we all get paid to do something (whatever that may be)
@@303offroad You clearly don't know anything about sales - if you're selling no company is going to fire you. Damien is absolutely correct. You become expendable when it becomes clear you're no longer meeting SALES expectations.
There are two reasons that you can be fired. 1) any reason 2) no reason at all
Also, not being capable of performing the core function of your job even once in six months is a pretty reliable way to find yourself looking for a new position.
Thank you for your comment.
This is why people need to stop dedicating their entire lives to their job. We put our jobs in front of our families, our friends, and even our own health (mental and physical). We prioritize our jobs over everything else just to pay for our basic needs and as a result are left with no time to follow our real passions in life. The years pass, we grow old and whenever convenient for the employer, we are laid off and treated simply as a number.
Well said 👏 So glad I got laid off and have no desire to return to corporate America. I refuse to sell my soul in order to have granite countertops drive an audi and wear Lululemon ish! I refuse to aid companies in screwing over people for profit. Our society is warped and sick! I'm the happiest I've ever been, namaste.
You're right that a lot of people need to prioritize family more and work less. But in this woman's case in particular... ? She's a saleswoman who never made a single sale in all her months of work. I should hope we can agree that that's a pretty good reason to let her go, particularly when the company is on hard times and needs to downsize anyway? Better her than someone who actually contributed to the company, right?
@@mjohnson1741 Good for you, really. I’ve been to the states enough times thinking it was peaches n’ cream but it’s nothing but a giant corporate slave camp with flashy lights and makeup. Don’t cave into the vicious cycle again. Move to europe if you can.
That's life! The company you work for is NOT your family and they can and WILL drop you at the first sign of trouble but unfortunately you NEED $ to survive. Also something like 85% of the world HATE their job so either you get yourself educated, STOP MAKING excuses, work hard and make $ to take care of your family. Otherwise point fingers, blame others, take no RESPONSIBILITY for YOUR decisions and cry on a Tik Tok for likes and attention.
@@OptimalOwl I understand what you are saying, but coming from someone with years of sales background, I can tell you 1st hand that it takes longer than 3 or 4 months to realize a person’s potential. This woman works in cloud cybersecurity and I can tell you first hand that this type of sales is mainly relationship building. 3-4 months is premature to assess long term performance.
Good for you girl!!! Two weeks before Christmas, I was informed that “my services are no longer needed” over the phone! No ‘solid’ grounds explained. I went into my place of employment to communicate with the manager responsible for this decision, but to no avail. The manager was uncooperative for any discussion, and literally scurried away from me into another room! I’ve never experienced such unprofessionalism, disrespect and cowardly actions! I’m proud of this young woman for standing up for herself and her fellow coworkers!!
In Jauary 2023, Shift4 laid me off, and my entire team, and no one bothered to send any of us a meeting link, email, or phone call. We all found out when our slack accounts were blocked one morning. My boss refused to return my phone calls and is still there.
Good for her for what? She constantly interrupted HR and was defensive the whole time. No wonder why she is being let go....Her attitude sux. They even said it is a performance issue and she even admitted that she has not closed out any sales. Her hearing that it was her fault was not a valid reason. She than turned it around and blamed it on the company and made up that it was due to the company over hiring. That is a classic manipulation tactic. The HR seemed extremely professional but she kept interrupting them. Companies do not even need a reason to let you go but at least for hers they said it was a performance issue and called her up to discuss it. Some companies just send you an email.
If you have 40 sales people that aren't performing, then that is clearly a management problem. Also, any company that blatantly lies to their employees - telling employees that it is their fault that they're losing their job, rather than admitting it was a strategic error, then you don't want to work for that org. I understand the importance of an org not saying too much during a termination, but this is complete BS.
IF you're bad at your job, its management's fault? You can tell by her attitude she's a real treat to work with.
40 out of over 1500 people ... Only worked there for ~3 months ... I fail to see the oppression or fault with anything here besides the sheer entitlement , the compulsion to post private matters on the Internet publicly and pretend as if one is being oppressed somehow . . The job didn't fit with her skills , oh well , NEXT . We've all been there - but apparently Gen Z and Millenials feel as if they are ' the first to EVERRrr '
@@dreamivey3405 i disagree completely. she was standing up for herself.
@@sonquatsch8585it’s not standing up for yourself to say “bullshit” to an authoritative figure who is firing you based on poor performance… she just put the nail in the coffin for future employers there by posting it too & thinking the mob would gift her the job back.
@@JoshO423 People aren't hired back after they are fired! She stood up for herself and more importantly, it helped future employees, she should be proud of herself!
Fair play to her for sticking up for herself
What a peach! Seriously though, I'm 100% in Brittany's corner. I understand that for purely financial reasons it may have been necessary for the company to make layoffs. But people representing the company need to be honest. They're laying this woman off because they managed the company poorly and can no longer afford to pay employees. It's got nothing to do with her performance. They should make that very clear. They should also apologize to her for managing the company so poorly and they should be providing her a severance payment to help her transition.
You have inside information to make the statement that they can no longer pay their employees and that she performed well? She literally admits to closing no sales deals.
I don’t agree w her cutting him off saying “I’m gonna stop you right there” This was not good. Perhaps she should not have gotten fired , but that behavior says a lot for future employers who watch this video of her being disrespectful
She answered her own question. She is working a sales commission job. That means if you do close deals you don't keep your job long. She's being paid to sell and hasn't sold anything in 3 or 4 months.
🤣🤣🤣🤣how do you know they have operated the company inefficiently? They are laying her off because she DID NOT MEET company EXPECTATIONS. See, job expectations are posted with the job description, and if you DO NOT MEET them, your butt is canned...most everybody has been fired, so this woke spoiled "well, like" chick needs to move on, suck it up, and get another job...but with these little children these days they want their "safe space" to whine first
I have no idea why so many people are praising this girl - what she did here was not a good idea. I guarantee you that this will dent her future employability….she should not have filmed this interaction. I 100% would not employ her if I was in the position to hire people.
The rationale behind layoffs is not always linked to the performance of the employees, but rather to the performance of the company's stock. When revenue growth stalls, companies often shift their focus to showing an increase in revenue per worker. This strategy is primarily used to maintain investor confidence. It would be more honest for companies to admit this. It's disheartening to see them avoid honesty, leading to unnecessary struggles for employees and unfairly attributing responsibility for company performance to the workers.
I'm curious, exactly how do you know they didn't let her go because of HER performance???
You are so full of $H!+
Oh another clueless clown.
They decided to let her go end off
@@joemahma1237 One because if they had that reason they would use it and to the comment posted above, they’re speaking in general or in other cases, you’re taking it literal for this situation for some reason
been there the best part of 6 months and not made a single sale. that is why she is fired. nothing more nothing less. they cut the worst 40 employees from 1500 sales nothing to do with stock or investors.
She asked for an explanation. She was not even aware of any performance metrics and clearly the 3rd party firing company didnt have any actual facts. It's a shit way to be let go. A bit of honesty here from the company would have gone a long way to making the situation better.
The 3rd party is just the hit crew. They are deliberately not given all the information on the employee. Their job is to handle the emotional response.
I didnt realize they had 3rd parties to do the firing, that sounds like an awesome job, how does one apply for a 3rd party HR that does lay offs?
She says herself she hasn’t closed any contracts
@@jordanmckinney6200 yes but that’s not the point I think. The issue is if the company is deceptive and operating unethically or even illegally.
You’ll have to explain the deceptive/unethical/illegal part. They said she was being let go for performance. She admits she has not fulfilled her job roles (closing contracts). She says her work is satisfactory, obviously her superiors don’t think so. Business is a meritocracy. You want to keep your job? Make yourself the better employee. Businesses don’t fire/lay off their better employees
i worked in sales and the first and most important commandment is always be closing!!!! nothing else matters
They don’t care. No matter what you say, it won’t change the outcome. The decision honestly has nothing to do with you. You are just an employee number They will just gaslight you and placate you. THEY DONT CARE.
EXACTLY !!!! Well said.
But why would they care?
They’re job is just to let them know you’re done. Are they supposed to baby you and sugar coat it?
Then start your own business. There are all sorts of excuses not to, but those excuses never stopped anyone who currently owns one. Get on the level, or keep making poor choices and blaming someone else for your failures. The choice is 100% yours. But nobody should be expected to feel sorry for you if you don't.
@@BokorugroRRwhy lie then, just say we don't have the money for your position
She didn’t close any deals. Why is she surprised? She’s adding no value to the company
I’m sales there’s a 3 month ramp up period where you build your clientele. So it’s not that crazy for her to have not closed any deals yet. Plus her 4 month is during the holiday season which in a SaaS environment is slow.
@@amerkulovic3270 she seems like a huge, entitled Ckunt so yea lmao
@bobbybobberton6373 have you worked in tech sales before? You have to learn the product, sales process, and build your book of business. She was doing a ton of work on the back end, but that can take months to come to fruition.
If it’s a good product it sells itself.
@bobbybobberton6373 That’s not how it works. If that were the case companies would not have sales teams. Period.
They said PERFORMANCE! She said in four months she closed ZERO sales!
A regular Jordan Belfort 💯
Probably put more effort in choosing her outfit for the day than she did doing her job for the last 4 months. She's definitely making the case for AI robots.
Is that bad ?
So, she hasn't closed anything in 4 months and wants to know why she is being let go?
Thank you for your comment.
Agree but when HR told her that based on performance, she asked for clear and a valid reason with metrics.
Because she just started to work there and also the holidays???? Also others were laid off too
@@normalgirlcvco Did you hear where she mentions she had at least one opportunity to close something and she didn't? That's telling.
@@JSolar590 Still, a good workplace would be very clear about expectations (you need to close X by X or you will be at risk of termination), and she should have had a warning if it was due to performance. She likely hit the nail on the head about how they made a mistake and hired too many people. It's cruel to say that it's due to performance when you never outlined metrics for performance in the first place and never previously called them up on it. You're not very smart if you are making an assumption based on her not closing something, especially when you don't have a full picture of how the company works.
1) you don't have numerous people getting fired in one day unless it is, in reality, a "layoff"
2) Seems the performance metrics were not properly communicated to her, either when she got hired or at this meeting.
3) The company obviously is trying to avoid paying severance pay to numerous employees.
4) if it is a sales job with a probation period to close sales that should be explicitly stated, and I don't think anyone did that.
Maybe she wasn’t wearing enough [cloud]flare.
omg lololol i can only thumb this up once but i would give it so many more if i could
Nice. Quite the meta comment. Jennifer Anniston, Ron Livingston, and the Bobs would be proud.
@@randomtees one of my fav movies ever
OMG, nice.
You do want to express yourself... right??
Well now we know why she was fired. Completely entitled.
Never give your life to a corporate entity.
She didn't close her sales.
@@okigi-wo5zm And?
so why let her go ? @@okigi-wo5zm
@@okigi-wo5zm and 4 months is not "your life". There were other ppl closing after four months and they stay. "Working hard" in sales is not a metric.
Omg It keeps getting worse. She says B ll Sh t and tells the HR employees they need to respect her. Her.... lol. I cannot.
The wrong person being fired here. It's never pleasant to have to fire someone but if you're in the position, you do not slide into it hesitantly and sounding embarrassed and you have a ready explanation that the firee will recognise. They gave Brittany the opening to turn the tables on them. Bring Brittany back and fire those two incompetents instead.
She doesn't seem competent
Brittany has a lot to learn. In the conversation she had them by the balls but then she got side-tracked and mentioned her not closing deals. That was stupid. Brittany was performing normally-not exceptionally. If she could get them to admit that the reasons are other than poor performance; she could have negotiated a lucrative severance pay. She went in ready to fight. She should've gone in, ready to negotiate. Brittany is young and this will happen again. Hopefully she won't record herself, next time
@@roddo1955 excellent observation. the only thing i would say is that how many deals could be closed in a month during holidays and what had been just after ramping. any contracts judge would have seen thru that....but i get your point fully. i disagree about recording. since management was unwilling or unable to give feedback, i think recording this for the masses to see was a very creative and quite effective way to get that feedback, even tho it would be from people who have nothing to do with it since everyone has been thru it. pseudo-ethically it might be a bad idea, but morally it was top self.
I'll grant that they're no shining examples of the Apollonian spirit, but at least they did their job, right? They actually fired the woman they were ordered to fire. That's got to be worth more than a saleswoman who never sells anything.
Ja, she offers nothing to the company. She claims she has “good meetings”, but couldn’t be good in this one.
One of the first hard lessons you have tolearn in life is that employers have no loyalty towards you.
You don’t get to keep your job and suck. Young people today are so entitled. It’s nauseating.
Do everything you can to get a professional license even if it is a job that does not require a college degree. The reason is simple. You need to be ready at any moment in time to work for yourself and to be able to bill others for your skills or license. Example is notary. Sure it’s an easy job but it’s a necessity for many people and that’s one of the easiest licenses to obtain. Almost every professional field, requires a license and enables you to work for yourself, and not for anyone else.
This is 100% true.
Any other recommended licenses?
The word "trauma" is really overused nowadays (nothing against her personally, it's just the way how everyone talks)
Getting fired/laid off IS traumatic
@@finnanagans5055getting yelled at on a street by a hobo IS traumatic
When she said stop right there - it's everything you need to know. It looks like her attitude is part of the problem
Exactly
See you on the street corner
I think very less people realize this... getting fired from one firm or the other is always a Blessing in Disguise. save enough for a 6-month uncertain sprint - ALWAYS! . Don't squander on useless stuff. Skill Up and keep looking for that new avenue of growth.
Also, have a small side hustle going if you can...
Can we be friends? I love your outlook. I'd really love to have you as a friend.
Corporate only care about profits not people. As they have said to me “everyone is replaceable”.
Businesses exist to make money. That's nothing new.
Work is not your friend or family. Never make the mistake of thinking it is. And if the employer has decided it's not worth keeping you on the payroll. It's best to swallow your pride and bow out. The way they are letting her go, is VERY TYPICAL. Strangers firing you is normal. Everyone understands why she's emotional. But her next potential employer is going to see this. And she comes off as entitled and unable to accept the reality of what is happening to her. Also, you can do everything right and still lose.
I agreed with your first half. Hard disagree that firing someone like this at a company such as Cloudflare is typical or acceptable.
No prior warnings in reviews. No manager there. No substantive reasons given for the firing.
No prior warning? She knew enough to record it..
@@GoldTau-qc4242 Regarding talking to lawyers, while opinions can run the entire spectrum here, the employers actions have not placed the company in a legal liability situation. While what happened to her is sad, she has no legal recourse here.
@@scottttym they put the meeting on her calendar that day. She'd heard from other coworkers who got similar of what to expect the true meaning of this meeting to be. Hit record. Duh
Why are you enabling this kind of work culture as if it’s ok? “Work is not your friend or family”. No kidding. So why should the new generation bend over backwards and slave around the clock for an environment that couldn’t even see you remotely as a friend? Can you blame this generation?
Them: "You're not meeting your performance targets so we're letting you go."
Her: "What were my targets and how did I perform against them?"
Them: "I don't know."
But why would they know? They're HR drones. They're just there to let her know that she's unemployed.
Though TBH, if I were them, I'd be tempted to seize on the part where she admitted she never made a single sale. "I don't actually know, but that sounds to me personally like a really good reason to fire you, so that would be my guess."
I would not make a good HR drone.
It's not like she's been there 15 20 years........you been there 4 months. Eat it....then move on
THIS is why people aren’t working hard or wanting to work anymore. Props to Brittany.
I worked corporate for a very long time, during that process I had a vision on where I wanted to go in life. I saved my $$ payed my debt, got my credit up, purchased a house, years later refinanced (cash out). Purchased another home & another & another. Now I have my own real estate LLC in rentals (passive income) & flips. I say this because corporate wronged me & my wife, those corporate politics hurt people. So I close out with this, You also can build your own business utilizing your capital wisely, so Britney my wife & I have felt your pain before. But also know that we all believe in you, “GO BRITNEY”! cheers🥂!
This is like a used car salesman saying, “I had a lot of activity the last 4 months but at the last minute nobody bought the cars! I can’t believe you’re firing me!”
Stupid analogy.
I hope whoever marries her likes to argue as much as she does.
@@osman01003why? Seems pretty spot on.
Cause a car sale can happen in an afternoon. Who knows what the sale cycle is. It could be 6 months, and she has only been on the job for 1 month.
@@LancerR890 I mean, so do other sales. The moment of agreeing to the sale is nearly instantaneous but a care salesman can spend a few weeks working with a potential buyer before they decide to buy. So, the analogy is appropriate. Also, she was there for 4 months not 1.
I get that she wasn't meeting performance sales goals, but they needed to communicate that clearly during the employment. They should have also helped her as much as possible to remedy the situation with advice and training. I believe her when she said her manager was telling her that she is "doing great" with all positive feedback. I am betting her manager was also fired along with most of her team. The main purpose of HR is to prevent the company from being sued. They should have had documented the poor performance and have them signed by her throughout her months of employment. I maintain this HR team didn't do their due diligence and they should also be fired for not doing their job.
Yeah they blindly looked at meaningless data and didnt even talk with her manager. Mindless idiots
Making her sign statements that her performance is unacceptable could well be interpreted by an employment tribunal as harassment unless she'd been specifically warned of that possibility. In particular if she was signing things under duress and other colleagues there's a possible case for discrimination.
The company is not obligated to help her meet her goals other than provide normal resources, but that said, I agree with you they never communicated anything to her and blind-sided her.
they over hire and cut the bottom performers, its the best way to get top workers if your company can afford it. no need to train or waste their time on the bottom level.
@@peterkin1010 The employment tribunal is a UK concept that we don't have in the United States. Except in cases of discrimination based on protective status (disability, age, race, gender, etc.) the employer is free to fire at will. Discrimination is not that easy to prove in the US either unless you have direct hard evidence that your protected status was the reason for your firing. Signing under duress also is not a legal concept in the US unless someone is directly holding a gun to your head.
You were employed for christmas, probation period is code for "christmas work" ive been there, i was hardest worker. Literally every other employee bar 2 just sat around doing their nails or gumming on the phone, i was given stupid long hours, constantly getting called in to do the work of the employees who turned up CONSTANTLY late or never at all, they are still there to this day. Youre their christmas B ,the end
It sucks to seee
People who r not sincere who sleep with coworkers aren't scolded my managers
@@Harsha-D311 lol. Been there too. They pocketed a 200 pound tip which was left for the staff of whom only 7 had turned up for a room of 200. This was the 80s too. 200 quid weren't to be sniffed at. We'd never have found out but the client was myvdads friend and boss and he asked my sister if she liked the tip when he came round to visit.
To the young woman in the video - from the few moments of watching you in action, I can tell that you are stubborn, courageous and passionate - please don’t ever change. It’s people like you that built everything that matters. It sucks that you had to start off your career this way. I really hope that you find something else that’s much more worthy of your passion. Maybe these people didn’t see you for who you really are. Sometimes that’s your fault but sometimes it’s theirs. It certainly sounds like this decision was made without any consideration for your potential. If you manage to get over this and stay true to who you really are there will be others who will believe in you. For what it’s worth, I believe in you.
> didn't see her for who she really is
I mean they saw her results, right? 0 sales in four months. Complete deadweight loss to the company.
They can't keep her on just to look pretty.
@@OptimalOwlagreed but I bet you OF will... She'll do great there I think
@@stankbox
Nah. OF likes to publicize their highest-earning oars, but if you just divide the total payout by the number of oars, then it comes out to something like $1'500 per oar per year. That's less than you'd make working one shift per week at the federal minimum wage.
@@OptimalOwl agreed but show has a following now. Show would be popular I think. I would bet that she's a decent F
“I can’t speak to…”. Aka “I am a robot with no human empathy…”
I got laid off first time ever (hopefully the last) in 2019. I was one of the person who helped this start up company off the floor. Stayed numerous late nigths because i had to, dealt with their bs and put up with their temper. When the company became a big thing, I asked to discuss for a potential raise the next day i was let go, without warning whatsoever. Had the exact talk in the video but the difference is i did not fight back. Because i hated the job, so I'm glad that i was let go. Fast forward to today, im working in my dream job and getting better at it everyday.
One reason why employers may lie about the reason for the layoff has to do with the unemployment taxes they have to pay. They can get a rate hike for the number of employees claiming unemployment from a layoff at the company. Employees let go for a performance reason may not qualify for unemployment insurance based on the state. These type of companies who use this reason falsely are disgraceful.
All my interactions with HR have been like this throughout my career. They don’t care. They’re there for the companys protection not the employee. I wouldn’t even have argued. There’s no point.
Similar situation, but I've been through these types of situations enough to say "okay, I just need to know when I am getting my last paycheck, my severance and where to FedEx the work computer to".
Well said. I think the way she handled this and the fact that she posted it publicly is going to make it harder for her to find future employment.
@@DrKnowsMore Honestly, I was sad that we can’t post it on public. Where’s the freedom of speech but that’s the fact.
@@amyzeng4709freedom of speech absolutely exists when speaking out against the government. 1st amendment does not apply to private corporations though and you should always consider the consequences of what you say.
@@amyzeng4709 dumb take no offense. Freedom of speech and actions can only get you fired. If there was freedom for all that companies and employees wouldn't represent themselves with the usual etiquette we expect from them
These corporations don’t care about anything but the bottom line. Being let go is a blessing in disguise.
What should they care about? Good product? Good service? That IS the bottom line.
IT, and just the way corporations in general, handle these events are so out of touch and off base and just plain cold and brutal. Go work for yourself and answer to no one except your customers.
There is no crying in baseball.
Brittany, don't give them your feelings, they are not worth it
"i put my whole life into this job!"
was only there 4 months...LOL
She deserves to get laid off for not knowing what a POV is.
Organizations that operate like this should be illegal and shut down. Let’s be real, HR’s only care about the company not the actual human capitol that makes those companies operate and are success.
Ps. What a shit HR people on this call. They should be so embarrassed!
It's pretty obvious Cloudflare is going through restructuring, giving the economy and all. Don't think this will stop at 40 lay-offs. This is a repeat of 2008 all over again.
As a sales executive she hasn't made any sales in 4-5 months. Companies hire a lot of sales people and get rid of the ones who can't make any sales.
You don't know how the company works though. It could be normal to not make frequent sales if it's a very high value contract. Regardless, she clearly wasn't given any clear metrics or warnings about her performance... if you are truly terrible, your manager would very likely say something.
Being in sales, and owning a business for decades, that fact that she talked about her "performance" is Absurd. What performance ???
Weird they didnt say upfront to her your performance or sales didnt meet our demands isnt that strange ?
Remember guys, HR is not your friend.
The manipulative emotional language used by HR to deflect the question is so gross. Then again, they were not going to say out loud what we all know to be true based on how they evaded her question. They were not gonna say "Yep, we have no idea, this metric thing was bs and this firing was outsourced to us because Cloudfare does not give a shit"
Every remote sales company over hires and keeps the good ones after a certain period, and being paid for months of no results she should be sending them a thank you letter. this isn’t a secret corporate magic😂 FYI she was also outed on being the bottom 4% of the company.
@@Kdot2x If that was the case, they shouldn't have had an issue telling her that...?
@@LilLamb-headquartersthey offered to get back to her with the performance specifics. Of course, she answered it herself by admitting she hasn't closed a single account in her 4mo of employment... and yes, you can close deals during your ramp period, in fact you're expected to if you intend to keep your job after your ramp is over.
I understand where she is coming from, but they said she was being let go due to lack of numbers and performance. If she was a full time worker, she worked 40 hours a week for 3-4 months and didn't close very many sales or contracts. Closing on so few sales or contracts in 3-4 months is lousy sales work. Sales is all about meeting your quotas and goals, regardless of what time of year it is. Best of luck to her finding a more stable job, perhaps not in sales.
When a corporation tells you "we're a family" understand that it is just a marketing line, unfortunately many people get emotionally invested in a legal figure ( a company) and forget about other things in life. That's why having some sort of parallel idea or side hussle business can help you big time.
Sales is the worst industry to be in. Whenever they need to let people go, they are the first to be fired. Happened recently at my job.
She didn't close sales. Her employer isn't a charity.
watch the video again@@okigi-wo5zm
i would NEVER get into sales.
Sales is only the worst for people that don't put in the work to learn sales. Rockstar sales people can out earn virtually any other role when partnered with a good company.
@@JasonSpasoff never. the statistics are shit. sure the exception verifies the rule, and u gotta look the part too. pretty people obviously do well in sales, and even then they still aren't safe.
"I worked so hard".... she is confusing effort with results. It doesn't matter if you spend 10,000 hours doing something if you have zero signed contracts.
But her manager according to her didnt complain on anything so whats up with that ?
Note to self. Life isn't fair. Get over yourself. Move on.
The way "Rosie" kept repeating the same canned responses from her script was Kafkaesque. And I loved the way she introduced herself with just her first name. Cowardly and unprofessional.
Very sorry you had to go through this experience. The fact that they could not answer your reasonable and specific questions, and then had the audacity to say these questions could be addressed at some later point. You are obviously a very talented communicator, so a future company will recognize this fact. On the very bright side, you are better off not staying any longer at this company.
She made no sales in 4 months, useless...
She recorded herself being terminated. There is no company that would want to touch her.
@@jsnbkr66 So the company has something to hide.
@@jsnbkr66 How is she never to be employed again? Being terminated is not a big deal. How do you think other people find another job?
@@JDintheDMV, do you NOT get the fact that she recorded the meeting WITHOUT disclosing it to the other parties (which, in many states is illegal) and then POSTED it to a very public forum? It's "gone viral" and thereby she is now VERY visible. No manager or company will want this headache on their hands. There are other options available; for every job she applies to there will be many other candidates who don't bring this baggage. She has put her resume on the "Do not touch with a ten foot pole" pile.
This is also why it's important to examine a company's history of layoffs when applying to them. This kind of behavior doesn't come out of nowhere.
Also most of the time folks aren't actually individually assessed during these layoffs. The folks at the top decide they need better numbers for whatever time period and will cut whatever groups are easiest. As shown here theyre not interested in your individual performance and therefore rlly not a judgement of ones value
Apparently someone thought they needed them three months prior. That person made a bad decision, and should be fired.
She made good points, but if her other peers have closed deals during this same time period, her points are invalid.
Exactly, she took her "grade-inflated" reviews as gospel even though she admits to zero closed deals. Her supervisor likely placated her because she is combative and has the very attitude that she displayed here.
@@ContrarianExpatriate perfectly said.
Her peers were fired too?
@@ContrarianExpatriate Well that's bad management. If someone is performing badly, you tell them and give them a chance to improve. You don't blindside them.
@@surfsup4019 Great question.
She got fired because she didn't do her work and didn't close ANY deals. LMAO This girl is a joke.
If that's the case, this should have been communicated with her. She should not have been told that she was "doing a great job" if she in fact was not. You can tell that she is genuinely surprised and confused as to why she is being let go, and that's because up until she was fired, she was told she was doing great. She is not a "joke" for standing up for herself and calling this company out in its BS. The fact is, she is being fired this way so the company ends up pocketing the money they would've otherwise had to pay her for services and/or unemployment. It is not a performance reason at all, and you can tell based on her genuine reaction and the HR peoples' responses. This company failed her and so many other people; they have every reason to be upset.
@@cascade1997
But she absolutely did notice that she wasn't selling anything. She spontaneously confessed to it in the process of making her excuses and accusations, so clearly she knew about it and knew it was a problem.
But also, like...
If you, as a saleswoman, need someone else to tell you what a saleswoman does, and that it's a problem if she doesn't do it, then doesn't that make you obviously incompetent?
Last hired. First fired. The company isn’t profitable so they are letting people go. It’s business it’s not personal.
So why not say that we are letting your go because of low sales.
Working hard is nothing.
Results are everything.
But she said her manager never complained on her so what was the problem she got fired ? and they couldnt even say why she got fired...
She was not layed off. She was fired.
Thank you for your comment.
This was a 360 degree shitshow. The company failed to be straight with her and let her go in the lamest possible way. She, however, is a sales rep who didn't make any sales. She may be a great person, but if she ain't closing deals, then the company is losing money on her employment. It's that simple and they should have told her that. It's been 3 months and you haven't closed a deal. That's a NO GO. The other issue is that her manager should have told her what the sales target is each quarter (I'm guessing it's not zero). That way, she at least would have an idea where she's stands at any given time. Also, secretly recording your employer and blasting it out on the web ain't the best idea. This was a fail for everyone involved.
I do think the manager should have been in on the call to give their perspective.
With that being said, I'm taking everything she says with a grain of salt. She knows she's being recorded, so I can't take anything she says as genuine. It's like people who record themselves giving to the homeless, do we really think they genuinely are that kind all the time when they clearly are working to get views?
The fact she says all her meetings have been going great means frankly nothing to me.
@@Trewq79 I agree.
I feel for this young woman. The corporation is a sociopath, and the HR department it’s loyal henchmen. I have been laid off by people I never even met, and it’s very upsetting. I would tell this girl Try not to take it personally, and believe in yourself! I am glad she stood up for herself, that look of dread on her face yet resoluteness made her seem authentic, we’ve all been there (well at least I have) :/
Get a grip. If you do not perform in a job, a relationship or in school. You lose. What lesson in life did you miss?
Imagine working in sales and not understanding that you are expected to actually sell.
@@dr.bendover-mdsell immediately?
At least there is a freedom of speech. I cannot imagine to do this in the place where I live.
@@serapfiso4229 country?
This just illustrates the type of secrecy companies operate with from beginning to end. Ever apply to a job and never hear back as to what happen to your application, even after attempts to reach out and follow up? Go on an interview and not hear back? There really is no explanation, be it the truth or not, that is going to satisfy someone being denied access to something they are depending on and companies don’t want to get into how they’ve negatively impacted real people’s lives. That doesn’t add to the bottom line.
HR didn't handle this well, but she obviously is not in the right field. she doesn't have a background in tech, and just sort of failed upwards by being a stereotypical corporate girly. but when you're in sales (who make $100k/yr on average) you have to know what you're doing and sell. no one cares about "really great meetings" all this other nonsense. if she is just having zoom meetings for months and nothing is happening, then you know its not going to work out.
The real failure is whoever was hiring reading her resume and not realizing that it translated into "I didn't make a single sale in 7 months at Snowflake, so they transferred me to existing accounts, and after 4 months of that I couldn't upsell existing customers on anything so I got the boot" and they hired her at Cloudflare. We can only guess at what Snowflake was thinking hiring former HR with a nontechnical degree as a salesperson for a technical product to begin with.
She must be great at interviewing
Ramp up takes a long time. It can take people 6-9 to begin actively closing deals, especially in the Enterprise segment. Are you in Sales? Do you have any clue how this works or are you deciding to just blame the victim here because she's attractive?
@@cormacobroin you're making a lot of assumptions there partner. yes have sales experience. no assumptions made because her linkedin is public. she shouldnt have been hired in the first place. bad fit all the way around.
@ab8817 some assumptions sure, have you worked in Enterprise Sales in Tech? It's a very different beast to many types of Sales
@@cormacobrointf are you on?
I was fired for not being the "right fit." Never had any indication I was performing poorly, never had a performance review. Companies don't care about you and will just fire you whenever they want.
I can guarantee you that the reason that they said it’s performance related is so that they can deny unemployment benefits. But you can get that turned around by just telling the unemployment officer during your interview the real story. I’ve been through this so many times in so many ways. I appreciate that you recorded this so that others can see how impersonal and heartless companies can be. My motto has been “the Phoenix rises from the flames”. She never waits for the embers to cool. Allow yourself some time to be angry and sad and then throw yourself into getting the next best job you’ve ever had! And remember, this is not about you this is about them. If they knew how to manage or run a company this wouldn’t have happened. One day you will look back on this and realize that it was just a steppingstone in your journey. Sending you my love and support.
Not sure where this happened but there are a lot of “at will” states where your employment can be terminated without notice or reason.
Best advice in this case is to take it on the chin - say thanks and move on. At least that way you haven’t bruised yourself in a way that future employers will see and may affect your future negatively.
Failing that - do the absolute best thing and work for yourself !
All states except Montana are at will employment states, unless modified by contract. It’s outside the US that employment cannot be terminated except for cause or due to extenuating business circumstances.
Third-party firings are awful. What a copout. I think I'll put Cloudflare on my don't-give-them-a-kidney list.
You typing this up on your iPhone? You ever go to Starbucks? Order from Amazon? Aight…
I was laid off from my first real job after high school and it was the best thing that happened to me because I hated it. I got a new job and now many years later I'm running my own company by myself at home making over 6 figures a year.
Id hire her simply because she has spirit and expects honesty and clarity.
So would I.
An “at-will employment” state, meaning an employer has the legal right to dismiss an employee for any lawful reason. A lawful termination can thus be executed at any time, needless of prior notice. Although it may seem like this doctrine solely shields employers, the policy can be used to protect employees as well.
The key concept is lawful termination. Yes, an employer is entitled to fire an at-will employee without notice, but the reasoning for the firing must always remain lawful. If it comes to light that a firing was done for unjust or unlawful reasons, a wrongful termination claim can ensue.
Thank you for your comment with your thoughts, thank you for the clarification it will help other many employees here.
Make a mistake, life goes on; record it for the world to see, life repeats, over & over.
If you were valued by them they would have found another position for you since they deemed your current position as non-essential.
RUN girl! RRRUUUUNNNNN!! She's right that they hired people and just cannot afford them, so they are firing now. They are probably going under, so get another job.
They fired 2.6% of their sales staff that quarter. That's lower than average sales churn. They can afford people fine, just not people who are producing zero output.
Their stock is up 20% for the quarter. Their revenue is up 32% YoY, profit up 45% YoY. It's pretty much certain they have already hired her replacement and then some.
When they said "nice to meet you," I was already bewildered by the incompetence of the company to get to know any of their employees or be aware of their existence. Absolutely disgusting
They are the people who fire underperforming employees, it's not necessary for them to get to know employees who are getting fired. Have you ever had a job???
@@joemahma1237 I don't think that's the point of the original comment. Yes, you don't "need" to know your employees to fire them, but you SHOULD! Most appropriate person to fire an employee is his own manager. Britney got it right with the feedback because this is the exact reason people despise corporations. It doesn't change the reality of the situation, but it would be a hundred times better.
@@joemahma1237 I have had a job and the people who hired me do a damn good job of getting to know me (because they actually care). If you are so much of a loser that you end up finding yourself at a job where you don't even know your employer or you don't know the people that are firing you, then you should not work there to begin with. When's the last time you haven't been a complete loser? Never? oh ok, that's what I thought
@@deepsound8751 - The people she's talking to are firing her, NOT HIRING her. Did that go over your head too?
This isn’t a small town mom and pop shop lol. This is a company with just under 2,500 employees. They’re not going to be able to all meet each other and be on a first name basis. It’s sad but it’s how the corporate world works.
That lady was speaking corporate bullsht and giving you the run around. They absolutely Do Not Care. I'm glad you posted this. Let everyone see what they are.
This is all just really messed up.
How do all these minimalism kids know before being informed about being fired and start recording it? Her attitude & entitlement is why she was let go. Companies don't have to give you a reason for letting you go, just like you don't need to give a reason if you were to quit.
Good for her sticking up for herself, and others. Shes very passionate for what's right and what's wrong. I call this person an influential person, and should really help others on a platform, how to handle a stressful situation, the more you do it the stronger you get. This girl believes in herself and has self worth. This one of the hardest things to do. Stand up for what's right always!!
she is not passionate about right VS wrong. She is passionate about her own self and avoiding anything that is deemed as her fault. She admitted she has not closed out on a deal since she started 4 months ago. Last time I checked you are supposed to work for your money and not waste company time doing nothing. She is just entitled and blames anything that goes wrong in her life on other people. Every company does through ups and downs and people get hired and fired. It is called life. Don't get too attached to your company but you should be passionate about the actual work you are doing so you can take that passion and experience to your future company.
@adam7349 I can agree with alot of the things you have said. Thank you for your input, it helps me expand my thought processing. I appreciate you and your feedback :)
She had a good point that they were not honest about the reason. I don't think they actually need a reason, and it would have been more honest, as she suggested, to say they hired too many people and realized they made a mistake.
The people doing the layoff kept talking about her "feelings", but she was actually asking about facts. For whatever reason they didn't want to talk about facts or were not authorized to do so.
Good for her for saying it aloud instead of allowing them to save face.