Rabbi to Irshad: Are you "really" a Muslim?
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- Watch Irshad turn the tables on a rabbi who tries to argue that she's not "really" Muslim. Hilarious and, ultimately, civil.
From the American Jewish Committee's 2014 Global Forum in Washington, DC.
And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers." Quran chapter 2 verse 11. (may Allah guide her to the right path)
Indeed
still waiting for him to show up
Allah cant guide anyone to anywhere.coz its an idol in the kaaba.
Ammeen. Well said from quran
Why don't Allah guide men to the right path?
God said in the Quran chapter 2 verse 8 -10.""Amongst men are those who say they believe in Allah and the day of judgment but they believe not. They tend to think they are deceiving God and the believers but deceive none except their own soul though they perceive not. In their heart are diseases, Allah now increases the diseases in their heart.
Allah here, is acting like satan, he increases disease of human rather than decresing it.
Blue Day. You know, we cannot take you and your imbecilic triune idols seriously. Worshiping images, even though Abrahamic scriptures go against that!
Santa is real. The true Satan is what you worship. Idiotic and pathetic!
@@adamyahya4734 I don't worship anything. Lol
Santa is real. In that case, you’re idiotic and pathetic. Atheists and non-believers think themselves as their own gods.
The mixed comments suggest that 1. Coming from a western point of view they like her
2. From a Muslim perspective she is changing something to suit her own belief
Personally my view knowing that she is a lesbian and educated in the west. Would suggest that she does not consider her orientation has taken her out of the folds of Islam. Who funds her to propagate? Would be useful to know.
She certainly doesn't dress modestly to Islamic standards.
She isn't trained in Islam by any renowned Islamic scholar if at all.
So conclusion is it's just her unguided perspective on what she feels is right or wrong.
She also needs to stop mixing culture with religion. Then making out it's a problem with how men treat women.
Men in the west treat women as sexual objects. Porn, strip clubs, tv industry etc etc even they run around at the beach with nothing.
Yet muslim nations wish to uphold there honour by requesting modest dress an there is an issue that men force them!
The west has it's way, the east has its way! To impose on one another is wrong. Reminds me of the colonial era. Forcing Christianity onto nations.
We like our women modest. It's purer, it's fast becoming rare and they are decent humans.
You don't like it you don't have to worry. You got your own women
In Bosnia muslim women are not forced to wear hijab (headscarf). They cover themselves out their own will. But what they don't do is go around and tell people they are better muslims when they don't wear it (calling themselves thinking reformists). Rather they recognize the fact that hijab is religiously better, more modest, closer to God for women, but they don't have the strength to do it. Her being gay makes this debate so impossible that I can only think of the people of Loot a.s. and will not say anything else.
I agree with you on modesty dressing of women but why Muhammad inserted his penis on a child???? Why men are allowed to open panties of women up to 4 times?? Isn't a woman a sex object in Islam???
@@vanessalozarita4187 1500 years ago marriage was matter of tribal and cultural relations, so throughout christian world also 12 year olds were already getting married. It was much less about sex and more about bearing children and connecting families. Sexual practice would not start until much later. Qur'an says it is better for you to have one wife. 4 wives is allowed because women who have the need for husband but lost theirs in wars, sickness etc, can find such a protector. It was a harsh world back then.
ACTUALLY SHE IS A MIXTURE OF JEWISH+ CHRISTIAN✝ HINDUISM + N A LITTLE BIT OF MUSLIM = FOR JUST PUBLICITY N MONETARY BENEFITS.
A fruit cocktail you mean😂
She represent only herself..pls do not get a "lose" mind..
Haniffa she
She is doing great you backward ignorant
She has many supporters. She is brave exposing the lies n violence of quran
@@samatayosfitness6082 in your dreams
@@samatayosfitness6082 a muslim follows the Quran and based on what you said i can totally see she isn’t a muslim.
She is sooo cunning.Now i know why Illuminati chose her for the task.
lmaoooo
İdiot
Well said, indeed, she is a useful idiot in the war against a peaceful religion ...
I m illuminati and Biden , trump and Tupac here with me.she not with us.
I think you right senpai
this is like when you learn to drive a car by reading its catalogue and without teacher
and she thinks that she she is special .poor girl
she is perfect 👌👌👌
@@samatayosfitness6082 For people like you because she speaks your language that is why.
@@samatayosfitness6082 she does a lot of things in the name of islam but islam itself is against her every word. That’s the highest level of hypocrisy ever.
@@SAUDI_MONSTER You need to read about Islam before you say stupid things about things you have no idea about
i am a muslim, and she is. not. muslim for sure
She claims she is a reformer, I believe she speaks to here self.
We as a moderate Muslim don’t see you as a representative to us. In reality you are playing an agenda.
She’s a slave to this western world
@@elizabethchwakanowski5067 100%
@@paulavish5482 Which came from Western society.
@@kme321 quite a bold claim you got there.
@@paulavish5482
She is free to support or not whatever she wants. As long as she speaks for herself and not for Islam nor for Muslims
She's not a muslim everyone knows that
Ricky Des Safry I said i only believe in higher power didn't i? I'm not sure if it was God or not. When you talk to God it means you're religious. But if God talks to you then you're psychotic. And what makes you think that God loves you and care?
Ricky Des Safry I came to believe in a power much higher than i which gives me the idea to know the ethical value of right and wrong by listening to my conscience. That still, small voice inside is what tells me whether something is right or wrong. I don’t believe in God of religions that promotes slavery and makes me think, talk and question things like an idiot person!
I’m a Muslim girl and I feel more related to the Rabbi than to Irshad haha
why.? do you know mullahs fix women's boobies into small boxes and then stretch tits and suck on them as that was prophet muhammad's practise???? did u know that?
Many people came before her and said they were Muslims just to attack Islam.
And most of them failed. So she is only gonna fool few
Islam, as all religions, has it's history. Her point of view for Islam is actually beautiful.
@@akiskarorimakis741 how can you know its beautiful when you actually have nothing to do with Islam. Even her point of view has nothing to do with Islam but she forcefully relates to it.
@@akiskarorimakis741 her point of view has nothing to do with Islam 🤣🤣
Wow, this woman! Looks like devil found a good ambassador in her.
How so ?
Ola hu Uber....
😜😜😜😜
True
I think I'm replying to a devil
So true
I don't see any muslim in that video
sakurakou2009 you mean a stupid narrow minded person from stone age.
eger echos nah , it's common sense , where is the muslim that everyone talking about , I saw non on the video .
sakurakou2009 In fact she goes for a educated and civilized westerner - and that's a compliment.
eger echos whatever she is not muslim . /end
sakurakou2009 You know, if you born as a Muslim, you are a Muslim. Otherwise it's a death penalty. Also she's a Muslim.
A person who does not follow rasulullah saw is not a Muslim , it is as simple as that
Does it say in the quran? are you following allah or muhammad? She believes in the prophethood of muhammad.but she dont pedistalize him as muslims do.
Sister she is a learned donkey-dog barking to a wolfish in sheep clothing political audience . She hasnt got the humility of a finger of the man who taught us islam
@@samatayosfitness6082 she sounds a lot like ismailis who are not Muslim.
"I believe the Quran is divinely inspired, but not divinely authored, and this is why I have faith..." Sure you do, but not Islamic faith
That’s pure kufr
Self proclaimed reformist. She don't know first thing about Islam
i as a muslim, more comfortable to hear the rabbi talk than the women. she's sound ignorance
Truth is like that😢😢😢
@@pralhadgh 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It's because the truth is so painful to hear. She hits the nail and rattles you. And there's nothing wrong with listening to a Jew you fool
Ibrahim zen she is not a muslim and she obviously does not understand islam. If u believe Allah is the one and only god, what makes you think you can challenge gods words within the Qur’an? She says you don’t need Mohammed to be a muslim🤦 that’s the first pilar of Islam and if you don’t accept that, then you’re not a muslim.
You aRe wHat y0u think i am. Good deeds are not a problem and death is something which Islam obviously doesn’t teach. However as I already said, we believe the Qur’an to be the absolute objective worldview. That means that if you are Muslim you cannot go against gods words. Why? Because god is Omniscient and omnipotent
Rightly asked
When jew asks you whether you are muslim or no
You really need to introspect
May Allah Almighty show you the path
She’s a whole non-Muslim. Y’all just found out?
"If oil had been discovered in the Vatican, Christianity would look very different today". So true.
I hope she got well trained body guards...
Irahard Manji is not a Muslim, she is what she is. She doesn't represent Muslims but she represent the West. Some people are suffering from sickness in their heart, she is suffering from that disease which the Qur'an talks about. Some people believe in something and they want Islam to fit into their belief but it is different in Islam, people are expected to fit into Islam.
***** Right!?
that's disgusting
you right..
As a practicing Muslim, I know that ever single Muslim I am acquainted with would disagree with what you have just said. Islam does not limit, it does not constrict. It is tailored to each individual, because in the end it is all about your INTENTION. You cannot expect people from around the world, who have been sculpted by different life-experiences, to practice the same Islam as you. And the Quran clearly acknowledges that. It saddens me to see these comments. I am proud that we have a lesbian-muslim representation in the community. Allah has created all of us, as we were meant to be. With the activism she is doing to bring out thousands of oppressed voices on the brink of leaving the religion- I think she is better than many oppressive religious scholars who turn people away from it. Please keep an open mind. And remember- only Allah knows what's in her heart. She can be higher in His eyes for helping struggling Muslims, while a religious scholar is turning people away because of
+Faryal Wasti his PERSONAL, narrow-minded interpretation of the Quran. The "West" has muslims too, not just the East. Eastern ideologies would not be logical for Western individuals who have grown under different circumstances. This is an illogical expectation. That is why the Quran is based on intentions, and what is in your heart. Everyone's Islam is not the same, and it never will be! Only Allah knows.
She loves the sound of her own voice!
She should. Very few has got that voice
She talks a load of shit.
She's brilliant and beautiful and clear voice
@@divyapandey8707 lol, you git jokes.
Filled with fury signifying nothing. She represents she and herself.
this women is lost
Why so much violence, brother? Can other Muslims have a point of view? That is exactly what Manji is speaking of. Lets speak about our attitudes and change them. It is called reform.
Yikes, Muhammad. Didn't Islam also teach agree to disagree? Respect others opinions even if you don't agree with others? I don't think they mentioned using slander and insults..
she's found her way to the light..by walking away from the evil that so many are cursed by
@@RunhdeepS.Sandhu WELL SHE HAS MADE HER DECISION FROM THE LIGHT OF GOODNESS SHE HAS TURNED TO THE LIGHT OF SATAN WHERE SATAN EVENTULLEY WILL LURE HER INTO THE DARKNESS OF THE GRAVE THEN REALITY WILL OPEN
@@kenkentaylor9690 WHAT EVER YOU SOW IN THIS WORLD YOU WILL REAP THE HERE AFTEE LFE AFTER DEATH
May Allah guide this lady to the right path......Ameen
No may Allah curse her by saying that the quran is not the word of Allah
She is now at right path but you need to learn more,
May allah lead u also parakot
She is already on the right path kid. You need to join and support her. We need reforms and somebody needs to speak up.
@@ShakilKhan-el9pw u moron
(أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم).
"Reformist"👀👀👀👀 🤔
She needs ruqyah shariah.
Don't we all bro
Don't we all
I agree 😂
😭😭😭😭
The Rabbi is playing very truly his role!
This women really need help.
sharafudin2 Intellect eludes the indoctrinated.
Ina K she is absolutely right,. The moment the people submitted to Allah and his only messanger prophet Md, Muslims lost their logical mind. They have been forced upon live with subconsciously.
If Muslims respond to her call, it's the Muslims will get benefit. and non Muslims can have peaceful co-existence. If not Islam will die.
shiva prasad do u accept my right to have beef?
@@mohammedmohamed6661 Wait till i finish my drink (haram)?
@sharafudin2 - help from what? From you?
I am Muslim. I am woman. But I totally disagree with Irshad Manji. Sorry. you don't represent us.
Sometimes I felt she talks just by her imagination. Like how she said about `corruption needed to be rooted out`
I dont understand.. is she telling Islam is corrupted or human is the corruption? She clearly doesnt make sense to me. This is all based on her past, her family and her life. It is all about her. Not about Islam.
I am sorry if I am being rude or disrespect, only Muslim who found Islam is hard to practice will have 1 thousands reasons to come out something like Irshad do. Reform, evolution or whatever to change Islam.
Do you wear nikab ?
That is sad. And once I thought that wow intelligent and not totally brainwashed muslims exists. I guess it is very rare then. All the respect for this woman in this video.
And you don't represent all Muslims either. Not all Muslims think the same and they should be allowed to criticize their faith without being bullied or threated by angry traditionalists.
Actually SHE does because religion is deeds (الدين أفعال ) and our religion is all about loving each other ,carrying each other , unlike those islamic preachers that we have here who shows the wrong image to the world and wish make the world hates us and hate Islam ,at a time where we have to call people for the right way for (الطريق المستقيم)
How can she call herself a muslim when she says that the Quran is inspired not divinely authored?!!and how can a lesbian pretend to be a raw model for others when the religion she claims to be a part of both condemn homosexuality and adultery?!and why is she always invited to talk exclusively with people who shares or sympathetic to her opinion, if she really wants to impact muslim she should challenge mainstream well acknowledged well accepted muslim intellectual and not just talk to herself almost.
folken1761 she definitely doesn't represent me, lol. and I am a muslim, but I don't believe in homosexuality (ur right, she is a lesbian)
KuriousKoopa Troopa y'all don't have a right to judge her.
I can understand why someone looking from the outside think that way.
Unfortunately it is the actions of few sick and psychotic people that
are hijacking the religion. And rest of the Muslims who are good
Muslims need to be a bit more vocal and denounce such actions. As a
Muslim we do not have any authority to judge her or anyone that is up to
God. Yes I concur God is love and pure. People who kill in the name
of God these days they will have to answer to God on judgement day for
their crimes. True Islam which unfortunately lot of people are
forgetting about and adding their own innovations in it. It forbids
killing innocent people, it encourages kindness, love, taking care of
each other muslim or non muslim. Nothing these crazy whack jobs who are
killing innocent people do is Islamic. Our prophet actually mentioned
these people that there will be a time when people who will have Muslim
names and they will call themselves Muslims but they will have nothing
to do with Islam. Peace and love for all.
every country and nation on this planet at some point was in a war so what?!so the causality here kinda doesn't make any sense.
folken1761 actually it does matter because these people are hijacking Islam and adding innovation which is wrong. More over they are killing innocent people in the name of Islam which is also wrong. It is because of these fools rest of the world dislikes Islam. There used to be time when people used to praise Islam.
Somebody wrote “ may Allah help this lady or jinn “ and that cracked me up !
Hehe,that’s too funny
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yea she is a gem
@@JohnDoe-ie3ll bro a gem is something worth buying but i’d rather pay money to get rid of her. I mean she is literally speaking in the name of Islam and yet the Quran itself is against her! It’s like saying you’re protecting someone by stabbing them everywhere except for the vital organs. She is so hypocritical to the point where we may need to reform the definition of the word hypocritical to intensify the meaning simply to show a fraction of how hypocritical she is.
وَمِنَ ٱلنَّاسِ مَن يَقُولُ ءَامَنَّا بِٱللَّهِ وَبِٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْءَاخِرِ وَمَا هُم بِمُؤْمِنِينَ (٨)
And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers.
Brother she never said she believed in Allah..
So this verse is not for her
@@alvinman8 she said in one of her interviews
@@alvinman8 She said that
@@abdulnafay2067 ah ok
Agent written all over her. Not fooling us.
Judging by the comments regarding Irshad Manji it seems some of the so-called Muslims on here are not as tolerant and peaceful as they proclaim their religion is supposed to be. Bunch of hypocrites.
It is really amazing to see such a civilized dialogue concerning religion and geopolitics. Usually people are ready to rip each other's faces off in such depades.
***** Can't disagree, but it is still entertaining.
It is partly because she really isn’t that much of a Muslim. Since she really doesn’t believe in the Quran as the word of god preserved in the exact words Allah said she really doesn’t care that much. Replace her with a real Muslim woman. Oops, that doesn’t work she would not be allowed to speak in public in most Muslim countries. She needs to be replaced with a Muslim man doesn’t she?
@@m005kennedy Exactly.
I'd say also that this is an amusing spectacle
@@m005kennedy
Can't it be because she doesn't share enough ground with Muslims?
Can't it be because most Muslims don't agree with her claims and consider it hypocrisy?
Can't it be because what she says makes any Muslim question whether she is Muslim or not??????
She's being dishonest. She's not a muslim.
Who the fuck are you to say what she is!
Don't worry NO Muslims take her serious. Also she is openly lesbian and wants to "reform Islam". There is no reform in ISLAM. They keep trying to copy/paste what happened to Christianity to Islam, it will never work. ALL MUSLIMS HAVE 1 BOOK. unlike Christianity with dozens of versions translated from other languages. D Quran is in its original language and unchanged.
There you go with the very same takfir as spouted by the Islamic State, many Salafists and Wahabbists. The orthodox Muslim position is that if someone or some groups says they're Muslim(s), then they're Muslim(s). You might not like their kind of Islam, but to say they are not Muslim is to commit the grievous sin of takfir. "God knows best", they say, and only god knows if someone is a Muslim or not and it is not your right to judge them on that. Though you may judge their behaviour, and condemn it if you think it is wrong, you cannot say they're not Muslims.
That's not my view. I don't think there is any god who "knows best", but I'm telling you what all Muslims except the fringe of takfiri nutters and killers SAY. I'm afraid you are not in very exalted company!
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What if its original language was Aramaic, there being no other written language in Arabia at the time? The development and use of an Arabic script was beginning in and around Kufa, on the banks of the Euphrates, but that's not in Arabia and not where Islam first emerged. The existence of the Qur'an would certainly have accelerated the development of Arabic script and soon the compression of its forms from the original, rather awkward, elongated, Kufic script to make copies in codex form more practical.
It is by no means certain that the Qur'an was first written in Arabic or that an Arabic script -even the Kufic one- was available to anyone in Arabia at the time.
As for the content, it certainly appears to have been largely unchanged since Uthman's collection and collation of the various versions (both written and recited) floating around in the mid-650s CE. But what about the previous 20 years or more? Nobody knows. All the fragments of early Qur'ans so far discovered have been of the early post-Uthmanic text. We know nothing of the text / recitation in the period before that.
Martin James:
1- You aren't Muslim.
2- You think you're playing it smart but lemme just tell you straight up (salafi etc...) try harder.
3- Muslims all agree on what's in the Quran all sects differ on minor things (like which position your hands at during prayer etc...)
4- Irshad doesn't follow d Quran, so she isn't Muslim. Not takfiri etc... like for example a person who doesn't believe in Christ can't be called a Christian. Oh nd did I mention she is lesbian lol. Who takes her seriously? NO ONE.
how can you call yourself a Muslim and deny the Qur'an
+Sabah Razak because the Qu'ran is a book written by man 1400 years ago and she's smart enough to look at it with a distance. Actually she's even more Muslim than many people since she perpetuates the very Islamic culture of free thinking and debating theology and scriptures in Islam. Like many Muslim intellectuals before her throughout history. Her and other progressive Muslim are the future of this religion.
The meaning of Muslim means 100% submission to Allah. He is the Author of the Holy Qu'ran.
Fairly debatable point of view since ISIL is supposedly following the very word of the book. You said it yourself, submission to Allah, therefore faith and the personal experience with your Creator is undoubtedly more important than the blind following of a controversial, political, non-coherent book that made sense at the time it was written but not anymore. See, many muslims disconnect their lives from the most violent Islamic teachings and arab tribalistic behavior in order to fit in a basic ideal of human rights or to live in a secular society.She is a legitimate muslim.
+Max Are you a legitimate muslim??
Calander Days what do you think?
I have a simple question how a gay girl can represent Islam how who is she ??
Illuminati is more powerful than me and you can comprehend
@@shaiddinar6894 Illuminati doesn't hold your d*ck or brain
@Stark Industries A di*ck is a penis and there's nothing wrong with saying that,. It's a part of your body. Point still stands, Illuminati aren't a thing unless you want to fantasize about things. And even if they were a thing, they don't hold you from thinking on your own
@@ibrahimyange1528 yes, but don’t act ignorant. That word is considered a swear word as you used it in a derogatory manner
Just like the way u represent
The rabbi is right.
What Irshad does is pick and choose and the result is some kind of patchwork religion.
I guess according to the observations and comments Irshad's been busted, I'm surprised anyone except the gay community actually took her seriously in the first place
Allah says in the quran itself that hes perfected the religion so if u really believe in him why would u go against his own words
Get a life man.. i dont understand how people are so stupid even in this era of technology.. believe in humanity and love.. u dont need any religion..
@@empty8537empty hi
@@mimimohameed4460 hi
@@empty8537empty have you ever wondered why people choose religion even in this era of technology
@@mimimohameed4460 i think we are used to follow some setups or systems established by others.. these systems hate change or may be someone is getting benifitted... i dont know about god.. but people should learn empathy compassion etc and break the cages of religion.... i think thats what all these holy books are about.. but instead some people see these things as some sort of competition..
Ok. Let me sum up.
She says she believes the Quran is divinely *inspired* but not divinely authored. Which is a belief I don't have but can respect (on the other hand I consider delusional the traditional belief that the Quran is God's word).
She rejects Islamic teachings as human constructs.
She says there are *some* core values in the Quran that are important and helpful to people, again showing she doesn't believe all the Quran.
What are these values?? Knowing a bit the Quran I'd say it's respecting life (of humans AND animals), not answering evil by evil, striving for knowledge, etc.
Which I agree are good values.
But why on earth would someone need religion to have this sort of ethics??
And why would someone think these values were divinely inspired?? Tons of thinkers BEFORE Muhammad said such things. Would she consider them divinely inspired too? Then what would make the Quran special?
I think it's great that she tries to free Muslims from a really tight dogma. But if, as it seems to be the case, she believes in universal values but not questionable specifics like for instance drinking alcohol is a sin, a couple having sex before marriage is a sin, homosexuality is a sin... Then what's the point in considering herself a Muslim?? And, well, who is she to say "this part was divinely inspired - that part was not"?
Words mean something and "Muslim" means believing the Quran is some sort of celestial fax. She does not believe in that. It's a delusion to say she is a Muslim. She doesn't get to reinvent the word. She believes in some stuff related to Islam. She has a "personal religion".
Wouldn't it make more sense to say the Quran is an ancient text that contains some interesting verses, and to leave it at that? To maybe practice some Muslim rituals simply as a cultural thing or a way to connect to the divine but not as something demanded by God? To just discard all talks of divinely inspired stuff - because people will always disagree on what's divinely inspired or not and nobody can prove if some texts are?
(Also on a side note I found her condescending in the beginning when she corrected the rabbi on semantics (we/us...).)
The believers are only those who, when Allah is mentioned, their hearts become fearful, and when His verses are recited to them, it increases them in faith; and upon their Lord they rely - quran 8:2 she cant be a muslim if she wants to disobey bits of the quran which is obvious to everyone. islam does not need to be reformed, it needs to be abandomed... but i respect her trying to de-radicalize people.. she's probably a monotheist and thinks shes protecting herself by calling herself a muslim ...
You nailed it. Beautiful summation. Thank you.
who?
Ayra. Not you. But I agree with you too.
***** "Knowing a bit the Quran...." ...." I consider DELUSIONAL the traditional belief that the Quran is God's word". Hm! As for " But why on earth would someone need religion to have this sort of ethics?? ", do you know that the !Kung tribesman of the Kalahari consider a person "good" if he has a full stomach and a person "bad" if he is hungry .
She is the biggest hypocrite of all times!
She clearly isn't Muslim if she doesn't believe in the Quran.
And why shuld it matter? And why shuld it grow?
If a man questioned your status , don' t you think The God may said so too.
Only mehdi hassan did an incredible job at challenging her views and finding loopholes that others couldn't. Mehdi is just on another level that she is not on yet...
Lol this guy is a rabai. Why would he debate her
I saw the debate on head to head. But its not as you said. She nailed it well. Watch the comments there bro
i'd rather pray for the rabbi...
May Allah saves us all from this Fitnah...
Reform= bid'a ( innovation)
There’s nothing wrong with bida. Shia, Salafi, Ahmediya are all innovations from interpretations yet most Sunni as a human being would accept them in their beliefs. She’s doing the same and these hypocrites criticise them. Lol.
@@crosswalls2754 wait... sunni, salafi, shia are all bid'ah? Well shia originally meant anyone just agreeing that Ali (ra) was more correct for the caliphate than Abu Bakr (ra), but then changed to what it is now. Sunni means someone who adheres to the sunnah (way) of the prophet (SAW). Salafi is a call back to the sunnah by avoiding matters which have been brought INTO the religion (avoiding bid'ah). So a) sunni AND salafi can mean the same thing, they're not two separate groups. And b) they are ways, not changes. Changes are changes to religion.
@@crosswalls2754 also no sunni i know accepts Ahmadiyyah (even Pakistan doesn't, as a nation) as Muslims because they believe in a messenger post-Muhammad SAW.
By Reform be don't innovate , it's an understanding of the Islamic sources/adadeeth/narrations in a different and more detailed and accurate understanding/interpretation of the text. Reform is not changing to the authentic text, rather understand it with/from a different perspective.
We understand most of the religion, but there's (ijtihaad in islam), that we are not accurate in, when it comes to understanding the sources through it 100% accurate meaning.
On the other : innovation is creating/bringing something into existence which wasn't part of the religion and message originally.
May Allah bless
She knows how to truly interpret our religious writings. We must learn from her and from all people of varying opinions
She is asking humanity to raise their consciousness
She has Faith, not dogma
"Our" religious writings? Who are you talking about? Cause it isn't Muslims, that's for sure.
I feel sick listening to her
The holy Quran will never change. I mean there will be no new testment
It already has been
I think and feel that Irshad Mandji IS a Muslim. She just have a lack of faith on some of the traditional interpretation and belief, which is fine.
You know somebody doesnt have a point when they point out something useless. Like asking who the we who the us yada yada. Just answer the simple question
The Rabbi knows the truth, she's not a Muslim.
religion is based on authority. This woman is not an authority to muslims, she can say she is a reformist but she is a muslim refomist as an atheist is a christian reformist and the more she defends that position the more she is missing the point (in my humble opinion). Inteligent people begin to tapdance when they try to reconcile faith with reason. Sure only god can decide if you are a real muslim but why don't u humor us and answer the question assuming we don't believe in god
GOT to have more of these vids! Thanks for posting-relaxing & entertaining despite d controversies that the 2 camps face nowadays....
Great Irshad & Sincere ! Even I dont understand your need to tied and please to Isreal and Sionists (with bad wishes for world muslims). From an AWARE AFRICAN MUSLIM
Irshad needs help i dont know if she is a muslim. Find out who is funding her then we will know for sure.
Role model ! I am sure you can never be a role model. You can be a part time model in a fashion show but not a role model for sure Ma’am
irshad is only one muslim women around the world that can head of fight to exist for explaining her real religion of islam..she exactly false to explain to all none muslim in the around the world
Irshad is prime example of "incomplete knowledge is dangerous"
She is brave. She nailed everything perfectly!
Muslims think they have complete knowledge of everything. They are dillusional. Muslims have got this Islam religion which is around 1500 years old. Before this Islam, there existed and still exits spiritually and scientifically advanced religions on earth. Muslims are always in a denial mode since their birth.
at the start the rabbi asked good question because i am a Muslim and i do not support this women and i do not consider her as a muslim
Giving yourself the authority to decide who is and isn't a proper muslim is an argument that goes absolutely nowhere and can only lead to totalitarian thought. The only acceptable approach is to let people define themselves.
Are you afraid of her? Isa that why you don't support her??
Art Visuals I hope someday people will stop with this crap of the islamic golden age. if anything it was the middle east golden age ended by the muslim expansion
***** the expansion of islam facilitate the communication and trade between peoples previously separated by opposing empires. however this was totally unintentional and as you say many times the local population was "displaced" (or in others words massacred) by muslims this new muslims land become home to many arabs scientist fleeing the suffocating influence of muslim rulers thus the "unprecedented surge in science", once islam's power stood unopposed any trace of independent thought was erased through the "judicial systems", leading to what is today the lamentable state of science in the muslim world
this is what should be teached in school about islam. not the five pilar, not the shahada, not the night journey or any of that crap
Yes I concur. Islam is anti pluralistic. Islam does not allow free minds to exist, and no independent thinking is allowed what so ever. So science is not possible in islam. To be in islam means *to be in submission, physically and mentally* .
It’s ridiculous that Dr.Naif (which taught me in my faculty in Kuwait) is up there representing Islam as a “Reformist of Islam” when there is a total disconnect between him & the Kuwaiti community, a Muslim Arab community which we both come from
IRSHAD
I AM SO HAPPY THAT THERE ARE MUSLIMS LIKE YOU. I AM AN AGNOSTIC IRISHMAN WHO WAS BROUGHT UP CATHOLIC. I HAVE EXPERIENCED CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT BIGOTRY IN IRELAND. IF THERE IS A GOD I EXCEPT GOD TO LOVE ALL MANKIND IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR RELIGION
"Yea, to those who take for allies/friends unbelievers rather than believers: is it honour they seek among them? Nay,- all honour is with God. (The Noble Quran, 4:139)"
"So leave them to plunge in vain talk and play about, until they encounter that Day of theirs which they have been promised!- (The Noble Quran, 70:42)"
I.Manji makes money from public relations. Good work if you can get it, milking a niche media market. In this case, it's "the lovely and hopeful reformist Muslim." It's a soothing and jazzy theme. So contemporary. So edgy yet graceful. However, the tap dance fails to entertain once you examine the Koran. Manji hedges her bet in saying she does not think that the Koran is Allah's (whatever "Allah" is) literal words. That right there makes her not a Muslim, unless anyone can be anything (I'm a time-traveling wombat-whisperer). Unless we admit the Alice in Wonderland notion that words can mean anything you like whenever you want. Her case crumbles. To pay further attention to her crowd-pandering routine is simply to delay treatment of an illness: the faith virus.
Idea Sandwich Allah is god, i think you know that.
thank you very much eloquently said
As a Muslim I can agree with you that, she's full of shit
@@quandaledingle9127 He doesn't know that, he is a hypocrite who thinks that he knows too much, he probably also think that God should be just english 😂😂
She's not a Muslim. At all.
Not even close.
Islam sucks.......why not have a more liberal do what ya' wunnuh do islam???You know...love the haram and screw the halal...live for the duunya...Yeah!!!...
Rina Azis she's a free thinker
But she's wonderful, and you're not.
@Reina De corazones she deceives
Who are you than . I don’t think this hypocrite Irshad a reformists
Irshad do you know every reformist Muslim : the same argument applies in you too. What a waste of time listening to her
All please tell her if she has courge to debate ,,Dr Zakir naik,,. Then only she can say
If she win or lose her stands.
Lol..
@@americanatheart110 ,Islam ,,no man made reforms,as each not only word but even dot up or down make total differences
@@ajahmed1793 islam is only 1500 yrs old why u r in rush to spread?
@@americanatheart110 ,bro, with due respect s to all believers faiths,where in each two
Had within their each books of bible n yours that ,Islam will come and do final message from,GOd almighty who is same for past two afore mentioned.
****Later century trans of past both is totally contracted to yo their own first and early message s.cutom build by romans and modern day jews ,,,LOST,, purity and originality ,is why out 3 the most in language spoke is ,THE QURAN,,,in each corner of earth,this way they try
Keep dilations away.,,bro
Is had many verses of Moses n Jesus peace up both anh all others too.,is simply Islam is continuous is previous two to become final as afore in exact of 3 books.
Ref Mohmmed peace upon him,just n just , Google
Priest barhia ,sobservation of
Prophood on Mohmmed Peace upon him.
This above fromvthat time will clear all as crystal,all for you may have,only God Almighty
May help you futher.that
You may not ,,indulge yourself in modern day new trenity,man made ,self created,fitfat to present needs.****
****** Foot note ..,.
Just pick any authanic
Quran copy,only n only
First page of first verse
Tell you to be believers
You ought to have faith on all past message s and this the Quran as final and complete for all three.
Respectfully,I hope these imf,s helpfull to you.
@@ajahmed1793 no help at all. u, zakir just talk talk....u dont even know who Allaha is and u all want to preach and spread.u think Allaha is a thing to sell and u get bonus for selling Allaha? Relegions before Islam, like Christianty Buddhism Hinduism are well matured than Islam so u dont need to boast about Islam. Wat u need is look at imperfections and reform. No need to spread
I dont think you're a muslim voice, the one asking the question and I is enough to be "we"
this is a show of a saitan.
Osama and Mullah Omar were Saitan
This Irshad is the saitan here.
@@blacky93able... hypocrisy is a sin the living need to understand
Sahih ya akhi
Irshad manji does not represent Islam and she is not a mainstream muslim, she is a lesbian woman who is a daughter of a Indian man and Egyptian mother. Her father threatened her with a knife which caused her to run away from home according to her own statement and she blames Islam for her fathers action not his culture, she has ever since been seeking revenge from Islam and calling it to be reformed gaining fame and wealth and support from western audience. I am a Muslim and am happy with Islam as it is.
She turned a harmless question into an adversarial, abrasive quarrel
She is going to reform Islam.
Please give her a chance.
lmao thats a really good question and she just simply sarcasticly counter questions it and brushes it off, she doesnt believe that you have to accept prphet muhammad (pbuh)as a prophet, when the basic first step to enter into islam is the shahada which is the acceptence of prophet muhammad (pbuh) as the last messenger.
To be a Muslim in the sense of follower of Muhammad. There are conditions. Belief in only one God and submission to him. Acceptance of the Quran as perfect complete and unchanged. Acceptance of any verified command of Muhammad.
Belief in God by its self doesn't make you Muslim. Baha'i Ahmadia other groups believe in God and prophet but reject well known commands of the Prophet. Christians and Jew believe in God but reject the Prophet. Irshad rejects very clear commands verified commands of the prophet known as the Sunnah without producing any proof besides her own judgement. This puts her outside of Islam not just main stream Islam. Maybe she would be ahle-Kitab but she isn't a Muslim. Shia Sunni other groups accept in principle Quran and Sunnah they disagree on interpretations. Irshad cherry picks what she likes and rejects what she doesn't. She doesn't seem to know the Quran or Sunnah well. She doesn't seem to understand either the Quran or the Sunnah. She doesn't appear to accept the concept of Gods word being the final judgement.
I agree that the things you have listed are the core beliefs of a Muslim, but to be considered as one, all you need to put faith in is "La illaha ilallah, Muhammad Rasullulah." And we are not to judge whether she is or not. Only Allah knows what's in her heart. We cannot play God.
Faryal Wasti
Who said we can't judge? Is that in the Quran or in the Hadith? Im not judging what is in her heart. I'm looking at her expressed beliefs. She argues that certain commands of God and the Prophet are wrong and cannot be obeyed. Is that compatible with submission to God and the Prophet?
There are plenty of Muslims out there who drink, commit zina, are disobedient to their parents, etc. The list can go on. All of these things are condemned by the Prophet PBUH and God. But no one goes to them and says they're not Muslims. I see this as a similar situation. No matter what, we are not to judge. AND yes, Islam is based on not judging others because we do not know their position in Allah's eyes. The prostitute who works night and day to provide for her children could be higher in position than the religious Muslim man who abandons his family. We do not know. And therefore we cannot decide whether she is Muslim or not. That's for God to judge.
Faryal Wasti Commiting sin is one thing. It doesnt take them out of the religion and its against God and the person repents thats between themand God.
If a person justifys a sin. that is serious because they have made sinning against God small. But it doesnt take them out of the religion.
If a person denies that God has the right to say what is a sin or not and denies the practices of Muhammad that is a sin and takes them out of the religion.
God may or may not forgive them thats his business. But Muslims cannot interact with them as a Muslim. (No. That doesn't mean kill them like the Takfiris think)
But they cannot lead Muslims in prayer. they cannot marry other muslims. They cannot be buried in a Muslim graveyard.
Thats what I mean that legally she isnt a Muslim even if she doesnt commit any other sin in her life. denying Gods authority is more serious than anyother sin a person could commit. Even a christian or Jew accepts that God is the supreme authority.
+grinningchicken bro, you gotta let these things go. we in europe used to behave just like this: "the bible should be interpreted literally, and followed word by word, and who doesn't believe every word of it is not a true christian.etc.." and what that lead to were maybe the darkest centuries of europe: the dark ages.
strictly islamic states are having their dark ages right now. this is no coincidence
Katie hopkin must be jealous watching her speak.
Again. Not one single information from Irshad.
There have been many like her over the past 1400 years, Islam still maintains its authenticity and purity. I don't think she ever read the Quran.
A very astute question/ observation on Irshad Manji by the dear Rabbi.
I have recently discovered this woman and I LOVE the work she is doing. Islam has been devoid of reformists, or, as she has pointed out, they have been too scared to come out in the open. The field has been ESPECIALLY devoid of reformist women and this iron lady is paving way for more voices to come out of the closet through her dauntlessness. More power to her! Hurray!
qqthe way I can see you don't look like Muslim women off ur atire
Islam has never been devoid of reformists. There are plenty plenty of scholars who were killed or sentenced to jail because the wanted to reform Islam BACK to its roots. I highly doubt that this gay woman has anything to do with reforming anything.
she is a lesbian? then how in her confuse mind she thinks she is a devout muslim. she talks as if her version is the official one.
+Moises Perez funny isnt it
Moses working : she is male
Moses working : she is male..carrying cock all thr way
Moses working @ She is a person. Does it matter to you whom she has sex with . I’m sure you are a homosexual in the closet . Hey but I don’t care !!
@@l.berisha3176 but care to label anyone. Hmmmmm
She loves Islam so much in different way. If she doesn't she already become Christian or atheist.
This woman is a complete 'Gone Case' ("Atheist") not only challenging the authority of Eternal GOD but also falsely referring the Holy Quran. She does not have any understanding of any Abrahamic religions and arguing the wrong case. I can't comment on the views on Christianity but in Orthodox Judaism and Islam there is no concept to challenge the authority of Eternal GOD and referring the Holy Torah and Holy Quran incorrectly.
She is a Muslim as much as a Pope
sergio blazic To me...!!! Maybe Pope is a little bit realistic but come to talk of 'Irshad' and her so-called belief are more or less "Skeptical".
Irshad . . You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
🐖 🐷 🐽 🥓.
Irshad knows who and what is getting attention these days. She does not represent me.
I would rather give lot of respect to the rabbi but not to her who is distorting my religion by pretending being Muslim.
To be honest as a practicing Muslim I also don't believe her to be a Muslim. Because as I have experienced so far Islam is already prestine it doesn't need reformation.
She contradicts her own statement so others won't 🤣🤣
Interesting personalities.
Best comment.
Sister Irshad...
please define a Muslim.
Exactly what are your Beliefs?
I think she is confused too.
This is known as double talk....
The Rabbi was making a good point, and she had to play the circle around the question game. She knows she's not really a Muslim, "Only God can determine whether I am a Muslim" you know in you're heart if you are or are not so just answer the question.
Rabbi and a lesbian talking about Islam.Reform Islam,here is the answer
Al-Mâ’idah - Surah 5 verse 3 translationThis day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favors upon you, and have chosen for you, Islam as your religion.”
Reform your corrupt minds and ways,
Let's not hate her.... lets pray to the almighty to guide her....
You are either a Muslim and you want to impact the Muslim communities with the aspects and arguments through these discussions or you don't cause by generalising Muslims like the way she does not only she will contribute anything to lessen the problems but she will add up to them. I think she is just benefiting from all this by being a neutral person which will make it hard for pretty much any scholar or any ideologist to debate or convince her.
daaaaaamn.... hate to say that but .... daaaamn... she owned this guy
Hijab WEAKLY she really didn't...she carried her words, effectively making her seem like she has a point but in actuality she's got fuck all.
I think evolution is a baseless theory, but I'm an evolutionary biologist - Irshad Manji
She denies the very pillars of her faith that define her faith, still call herself a believer of it, Paradox
She can talk all she wants and call for a reformist Islam. Muslims know, people might change but Islam will always be protected and will never change until the end of time.